EP 19: Charlie Glynn Aka Stuart | Morning Coffee With Two Curious Creatives

Charlie Glynn, a.k.a. Stuart, is a rapper hailing from Cedarburg, WI.  What started as a vehicle to make comedic music videos has evolved into a passion for making melodious hip-hop and pop rap that is at times uplifting, clever, emotional, funny, and fun.  While his previous projects (STUESDAY and Love, Laughter & Slappers) were primarily comedy-focused hip-hop and pop, he now curates a more thoughtful, feel-good, rhythmic sound, while still maintaining a tongue-in-cheek style.  Stuart brings a relatable, introspective, and unique perspective to his music that deals with personal growth, enjoying life, and not taking himself too seriously.   

Connect with Charlie:

Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/xoxostuart

Website:
http://xoxostuart.com

Transcript

Bill: 0:05

We're here with Chuck. Once again, AKA also known as Stewart has creative alias. And we've been doing this for a minute, just not on the mix. but a. Uh, Welcome back to the show.

chuck: 0:18

Thanks. Good to be back. I mean, it just feels like another morning.

Bill: 0:21

It's another morning We've been doing this weekly. We've been getting together and sharing a coffee and just chopping it up and sharing some love and sharing our experiences and just connecting. And it's been really great. It always gives me a massive amount of energy. I always feel invigorated. After connecting with you. And I love that. And it's so simple. It's like, yeah, we're just hanging out. And we're just shooting the shit. That's it. We're just sharing ourselves. We're just, you know, Connecting

chuck: 0:51

right. Yeah. And it's just been nice to, I think we were talking about it and I've talked to this other couple of people about. just like meeting with you. And how, like I've never done it in my life. Just like. Met up with a dude.

Bill: 1:03

I

chuck: 1:03

a week and having coffee and just like talking, I feel like, I feel like old people do that. a lot and they've got it down. Like there's something to like that kind

Bill: 1:11

of.

chuck: 1:12

I don't know that connection. Right. Cause that's what it's all about. But It's just been fun to, you know, I think a lot of the times too, especially early on. So the reason we started. hanging out was because I came to you with the artists way. Right. And we. We'll just pretty much his 12 week program of how to like open up creatively. And like tying in spirituality with And so we did it once a week and like they have chapters and things like that, tasks. Like morning pages, which is where we journal and didn't do artists dates, but

Bill: 1:44

fucks on a journaling.

chuck: 1:45

a lot of journaling. and just things and just tasks. Yeah. Just like writing things down and thinking about things. But, uh, then for that, I was like, Speaking of like podcasting and being nervous and like, you know, wanting to say things right. And do the right thing. I felt the same way with the artist's way in the beginning, I was like, all right. You know, I came to bill with this. I want to, like, I want to provide value. Like hopefully like facilitate something. And I think by the end of everyone, like we've got pretty off track where we just like decided, you know, let's talk about what's going on. Or we. You know, we, we would always stay close to it and then we kept doing it after. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's gotten to the point now where if there's like no nerves at all, like I'll go in not knowing anything. What I'll talk about even today, didn't know what I was going to talk about. And you just figure it out. You just like, there's like that one. like you just go from like little seed to seed in it like. you watch it like flourish. So. it's cool to do that with someone who also is willing to just show up and just like, You know, we can connect on whatever level and like, I'll just be here and we'll just both be here. And we'll like, you know, we'll see what happens and something cool happens every time I always leave with something.

Bill: 2:55

Yeah. Yeah. it's Cool. There's always nuggets to be derived and. obtained from, you know, each individual in. interaction we have and it's simply put, it's Like being curious, showing up with an open heart and then being present with the experience, pulling a thread. And then just witnessing what emerges, which is the most interesting thing about conversation is that it is literally magic because it's. Spontaneously coming out of nowhere. You're not even thinking about what you're going to say when you're having a conversation, when you're truly in the moment. And you're speaking from that heart space and you're not in your head, you're just in your body. You're, you're you're with the other person. And like I said, just overall. Totally in the present moment, in the moment in the pocket with it. Yeah, it's just beautiful. Like what can happen and how impactful that can be in terms of providing energy. And, um, just allowing yourself to feel more free within yourself and just feel well. period. And I get reminded of that on a daily basis yet still face resistance with social connection frequently, which is like, That's just the name of the game. I really feel like that's just nature. Um, there's always more reward. When there is One resistance is involved in a situation or experience because you're stretching yourself. You're putting yourself out there. There's a little bit of risk involved. Um, granted like objectively, like this is low stakes. There's not much risk here. We are talking. On the mix on the record. So. um, You know, that's the thing. So it definitely like adds a layer of like, it makes it, it can. To express authentically and genuinely can be a little harder. And that's what I found. with starting the podcast was like, Noticing where I would get in my own way in terms of doing that. And then over time, you just naturally become better at like getting in that zone of just being yourself and having fun and. Um, just showing up as yourself and that's, that's the name of the game of life? I feel you just show up as yourself. You do your best. Uh, you've you do the things you love and you pay attention to how things make you feel, and you continue to like a tune yourself to a path that allows you to continue to expand. and feel alive within your own life. Um, But yeah, I'm grateful to be here.

chuck: 5:24

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's been cool to like, as far as, you know, showing up as yourself, I think. Us meeting up has like really helped facilitate, at least for me, like helping be myself more to like those practices of like, just meeting up once a week, like allows you to have the space to show up as yourself each week and just showing up in general. I think I know like. when we There's been like many weeks where it's like, it gets to the three days that we could.

Bill: 5:50

day, like we doing it tomorrow.

chuck: 5:52

And it's like, are we doing it? And then we always do like most of the time, I'd say 90% of the time what ends up. happening in the next day. And then we always find a different coffee shop to go to. And sometimes it's you texting me or me texting you like. I think that's cool too. It's not like one sided.

Bill: 6:06

right? No, I always look forward to. it and It's always very appreciated. and it's great. It's a practice. And that makes me curious. You know, what are the other things you've been practicing in your life that have allowed you to just feel better about your experience being You know, what are the other things you are intentionally pursuing? On a weekly or daily basis from like the basic ground level stuff. of, you know, doing your celery juice. Taking a cold shower doing breathwork reading, you know, whatever it may be going for a walk. Um, I'd be curious to hear what you've been up to, what levers you've been pulling, what buttons you've been pushing. I know we talked about this, uh, when we were at. I forgot what cafe it was, but We talked a little bit about it. You know, like is dance in the mood? like, what is the move to raise my energy, make myself. yeah. feel better, but just practices in general and, and another thing real quick. it could even be something you're practicing that you're noticing you don't want to be practicing. Like I am practicing this bad habit. And there, now that I'm practicing this bad habit, that was becoming integrated into myself. So practices as a whole first, it started with like practices. that benefit you, but anything that really comes to mind With practicing because I do enjoy. uh, the concept and. Um, becoming aware of the things you are practicing unconsciously and intentionally, and how that impacts one's life.

chuck: 7:37

I think the first thing that came to mind, I guess it wasn't as much as a practice, but. Uh, it's talked about like this links, your Slingshot meetups. Just it's incorrect. It's incredible. How like one. Like doing that. For whatever it is, two hours can just like, raise the vibration for like the next like 12. Right. And you just so like, Taking things from And, uh, like applying them. But I think a lot of it is like, so I go through like spurts, like I'll meditate every day for two weeks and I like it, but a lot of the times. I do it. Cause I think I, it. I'm thinking. I know it's good for me versus me actually like getting benefit from it while I'm doing it. So. Like when I'm actually doing it for 20 minutes, like I'm not meditating well, but it's more of like a thing, a checklist thing, like right. I'm like, all right. I meditated. So I'm good for the day, rather than looking at it through like, okay, maybe I could get my meditation in like a different way or like the effect that it would give me or that I would like, you know, to feel from it. By like, Clean. Uh, Cleaning like, uh, The mirror. Or something like that. or, you know what I mean? doing like household things like staying, moving. Because, um, when I like sit down for a little bit too long, then, you know, you get set in and Terry, I like start scrolling my phone. And then like that spirals. But I think a lot of the things that you're talking or asking about. Come from. Just like little things throughout the day and like bringing awareness to them or like, You know, like when I, uh, Like I make time to see my mom. Like once a week, like, like that's like something that feels like very genuine to me. And, you know, can like exceeds any meditation I would've done. Right. Cause it's just like filling me with love. Like we played a. Like I cut out like a morning to play pickleball, like with her, the other. day. And she's been asking me for. like months To do it and I did it and it was great. And we had Like a great time. I felt really good about it. And we had fun. And, you know, sometimes when you have like too much fun like Uh, for me it's sometimes, like I'm cheating. right? Like this isn't like, oh, This is like a luxurious activity. Like I'm being like. I'm indulging in this. But. You like throw that's just like rules that I think I place on my self sometimes that They have no, like, meaning to them, like where would I even come up with that idea?

Bill: 10:06

That's just conditioning. likely from society and like seeing what's realistic is having fun. All day and playing and like Being in love with your experience. consistently throughout the day, every day, is that realistic? Not to the construct that has been put in place by. I don't know how ever we evolve to be and think this way, It's contrary to that. Like, It's like, Nope. you got to work a nine to five job and you got to pay these bills and make ends meet and you got to play it safe to Charlie. You know, you got to like, make things work and blah, blah, blah. And that's like in opposition of that whole, you know, thing, which a lot of people are stuck within that program. And it's our job to realize that there's so much more to life. Than that and doing those practices, you know, carving out that time with your mom and like, you know, playing pickleball and having the time of your life. Yeah, that's that? shit right there. That's that, that, that, that upholds, that like, Um, you know, Just. That, that way of life that we deserve, I feel, which is like, we are, we create this experience. And it is up to us to like realize and work our way out of the conditioning and programming that has been instilled and that we have been indoctrinated in.

chuck: 11:32

Um,

Bill: 11:33

Yeah. There's so much more to life than, you know, the mainstream narrative presents to us. I feel. So that was like one thing that came to mind. Based off of what you were sharing, like feeling like it was maybe like unrealistic to be having that much amount of fun, you know, and an experience. And like that, that part of you kind of drawing you out of that, in that moment, almost that like. Part of you that isn't serving you, but yeah, I thought that was A fascinating little thread that popped up. in my mind. Right.

chuck: 12:02

Or then like you, there's gotta be a time, like, all right. I'm just going to have fun with my mom for like an hour. And. And. then I got to get back to work. You know what I mean? Rather than just like, okay. Maybe I could have fun with my mom for like four hours And then not, you know. the work takes like 30 minutes, or maybe I'll be even like in a higher vibration where the work doesn't even have to take as long. or things like that. Kind of like reframing

Bill: 12:21

it.

chuck: 12:23

But then I think also like, um, like just little decisions I make throughout the day.

Bill: 12:27

Like,

chuck: 12:28

Um, like I'm serving tables right now. And like, there's like a. Yeah, last night, there was like a lot of me you would use to like, if I like put something in wrong. Uh, like I would be like too lazy to fix it. Right. And like, I just give it to them and I hope they like went in like notice or something like that. Or maybe I just don't even have the awareness to do it. Or like, I. I forget about something after the fact. And I just don't want to do it again, but like yet last night was another time where I was like, all right. Like. Do I just want to like, make these decisions and just like, hope people don't notice because that. You know, that can spill over into a lot of things. So like, I was like, you know, no, this is wrong. Like, I want to, I want to be truthful and I want to make up for, I don't have like, I don't want my pride to get in the way of like, you know, admitting I did something wrong. So then like I rewriting it in and then like, I got them. Bless money off their bell and things like that. And I went to him and I told him, and it felt good because, you know, a lot of the times, like my pride will get in the way of like telling the truth, because like, I'm going to be embarrassed or, you know, I just, or I just don't want to deal with it. And I don't think about like how, if I was that guy. I would appreciate me telling myself that. you know, I made a mistake. or like, Thanks for calling me out on it or whatever, or things like that. So, It's the more of those like micro decisions throughout a day or. Um, I'm trying to think of. Anything else, but just like. Living in truth and just like telling the truth to myself and others. and things like that.

Bill: 14:02

That's a

chuck: 14:02

it's feels good

Bill: 14:04

That's a practice to recognize. Yeah.

chuck: 14:05

And I think it just. It can go into like every single part of life. And I think the more, you know, you tell I just feels better. even if it's like Not good or like he messed up or whatever, it's just, it's really freeing.

Bill: 14:21

You gotta be integral. I mean, integrity. Is huge. If you're out of integrity. There's a dissonance. There's lies being you're telling lies to yourself and to other people. And that's an energy drain because you're, there's a story gap. You gotta maintain two different stories and I'll pull these. These, you know, you know, not true. This, that you're telling to yourself. and others. Uh, so I really do feel that. Transparency. honesty. Telling the truth, even when you find resistance to it, that's the most important time to do it is really important to practice. uh, And to learn how to embody, to be a happy, healthy, and whole human being. Um, But I liked a lot of what you hit on in terms of practices like play and the importance of playing. I feel like you're very good at playing and, you know, approaching life as an adventure and like as an artist and as a creative individual and like sculpting and shaping it. So you are. Like having living your best life. On a daily basis and, um, I was going to say something about play when I'm kind of losing. Uh, the train of thought here, the thread that I was on. Um, let me see if it comes

chuck: 15:40

it's all right. I can start talking about. Your response and you can start thinking. I appreciate the

Bill: 15:46

truth. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it happens, you know, it's like,

chuck: 15:51

Um, But the play thing. Yeah. Any, uh, like, um, once again, I take a lot of pride in like being playful and like having fun and things, but sometimes I can definitely do to a fault or I want to play like the best. You know, I like whether it's like making little skit. or like, you know, putting the camera on and having fun, like there's a lot of intention there. And like, if I don't play as well as I want to play, like, you know, I keep having to do different things. Like I just wanted to like, look good. And things like that. And sometimes I can like take I like the whole point of everything that I'm doing. I just like diminish it. It's just like, it just gets destroyed. So, But it's nice. Cause sometimes I do remember it. Um, and like I can have fun with it myself, like making myself laugh sometimes. Um, with something or. Yeah, just being more playful with it. Cause like I really want to perform and like, oh, I want to like act well here. Cause I think it'd be funny. Versus okay. Why don't you just like have fun while you're doing it and like, you know, forget about like how you actually edited it and whatnot. and things like that. Not that. The quality should suffer, but it's just reminding myself that sometimes. Because I've just had the point where I've just made so much stuff that sometimes I'm like desensitize to like my own humor. or my own play or something like that. where it's just like, oh, easy, no problem. Like. Rather than like maybe appreciating it, honoring it a little

Bill: 17:14

more.

chuck: 17:15

Just being more playful, like messing up. and, You know, gone with it and things like that. But. It has been nice, like having the Stuart entity has brought like a amount of funness. To it. And especially a lot of the fun comes from interacting with other people and what they think. And, uh, you Them supporting me or sending me a message or things like that. So it's cool to connect with people over, like, rather than. Um, you know, in a work setting or something like that, which, you know, it doesn't really matter what setting you connect with someone in, as long as you're connecting in school. But like having the basis be like the fun, playful music, whatever it is. It's a cool like platform to kind of like connect with people on Cause I feel like it's a universal thing that just. everyone loves. Right. You know, opposed to. You know, a trade or profession. or something

Bill: 18:04

Yeah, it's innately. Pleasurable and. Um, Play is interesting. And, you know, I actually just. Did a masterclass through one of the coaching programs I'm in right now. about play. And adventure. And one of the things that came up was. One plays missing from your life, your life's in peril. And it makes sense because I can reflect on many moments in my life where I had become so rigid. And so lost in like the grind mentality and accomplishing task. and not paying attention to. Like the state of being I was in while doing these things and not realizing that I had a choice to be in a state of play, because play is a state of being and you can really like, and I Made this rigid. um, division between work and play in our society, which is like, that's such a. That's not a philosophy you want to, that's not a rabbit hole you want to go down. That's not like a way of living that is going to feel well because. Play is innately, supportive and pleasurable. Like I mentioned, but, um, yeah, you can be in a state of play while you're working. It's like, and I've recognized my choice points. While I'm working throughout the day. Like I may not be. fully enjoying the specific task I'm doing. Cause there's some tasks with my business that I don't necessarily like fully love. You know, taking care of but I'm around people I can engage with in a playful way, or I can. I don't know the way I perceive and look at what I'm doing. I can kind of like consciously manipulate it so that I. Make a choice that helps me. Be in a place of play. But yeah, mainly it's like me connecting with the people around me and like, it's interesting how it changes the way I perceive my work, even though it's not something I'm like full, like. Fully aligned with doing or feeling good doing. But if I choose to like, Be in a place of play and engage with others around me in a fun way or whatever. um, that it will, it's like massively impactful. Uh, on my day and on my health and on my momentum, you know? And like, so really like the moral of what I'm saying here is, and the theme is that there's like always a choice to infuse play into your experiences. And that, that is incredibly important to remember right now because, um, Yeah, I just, I honestly feel that if you aren't playing, you're going to age a lot

chuck: 20:46

quicker.

Bill: 20:47

Yeah. Yeah.

chuck: 20:48

I think too, it just makes a, it doesn't make like, just things more enjoyable for yourself. But for those around you. too, like when you're having fun and like being happy like that, stuff's infectious, like it really is contagious. When you see someone Especially if like things are down, you. know what I mean? Like let's say like

Bill: 21:05

thing.

chuck: 21:06

Whether it's your place of work or like, even with your family and like, something's like going on. If you can have like that happy figure in your life, those things are like priceless. And it might not seem like a lot too, but people notice that stuff I think. And they can pick up on it, even if it's not like consciously like subliminally. Like I think that stuff's so And

Bill: 21:27

it's universally attractive. for sure that like state of being that way of being that way. Of showing up and yeah, the opportunities are endless for, and we all know people that are that person that are like the life of the party and that really value laughter and humor, and always bringing light to situations. And those are the relationship. Those are like solely the relationships I want, where I can laugh and I can have fun yet. We can still. Like have a conversation of substance while it's happening. Like those are not separate things. And there's a lot of studies that show that. Uh, play increase learning capabilities by a shit ton. And I've realized that myself going through multiple different coaching programs. Some of the first ones I went through, which were the core language upgrade, which has a lot of language work. Uh, the enlisted community. Stuff like that. I did. a, so it's like a eight part video learning series. So we'd watch one part. Then we meet as a group and talk about it, do different exercises. But my brother, Ryan Sprague, who led it, he's like a master of play and having fun and infusing comedy and humor into the way that he teaches. So I got that experience. Um, and it was fantastic, but I didn't have anything to really compare it to maybe like outside of like, outside of like coaching, going to school, high school stuff like that. Formal education. But then I did another coaching program later on. That was just like, they're just, it was the opposite. It was just super somber. There's lots of valuable information. And I really enjoyed learning about all the stuff. But I just, I didn't feel like fully in it because it was missing that component of fun. And there was like a direct learning experience, right. There was like, oh, this is how I want to learn. And then outside of that, there's just been so much information that I've explored, explaining how play benefits, learning environment and allowing a person

chuck: 23:20

to.

Bill: 23:21

Integrate knowledge and learn new things. And I'm sure we all can reflect on instances where that was the case. And it's always the case really. Um,

chuck: 23:31

That's valuable.

Bill: 23:32

They could really do a better job of bringing that into our education system, which I know some teachers are better at it than others. But, uh, there's not really much, I bet conversation around how that could benefit society through that. You know, that. That platform you get provided to us through the education system as we grow up, which is like, in my opinion, completely misguided, but you know, obviously there's always room for improvement on everything. But yeah, overall, just to like close out the whole, Uh, play riff, um, I've found it very. Uh, important for me to continue to work towards bringing more play into my life and recognizing where I can do that. And that it's a choice for me, Right.

chuck: 24:19

Right.

Bill: 24:20

I think I have too.

chuck: 24:21

I think. One area that I think is very important. It's like playing. Uh, it sounds like playing with your son, playing with

Bill: 24:30

Playing with

chuck: 24:31

You know what I mean? Like Just playing around when you're by yourself, you know, like being goofy. with yourself, whether it's like something that's childish. is like making like a weird look in the mirror or like, I don't know. Plain like little games, like, uh, Like I remember I used to. Uh, when I was in the shower. I hated showering grownup. I just hated

Bill: 24:52

it.

chuck: 24:53

And I'd always like count down. for the shower. Like every time I'd be like, all right. Well, obviously. So I didn't like showering, but like when I was in the shower, I like, I had such a hard time getting out because I just did not want to be called. Like, that was why I hated showering so much. And I'd count down from like 15. I'm like, all right, I'll Out of the shower, like 15. 14. And I get, I'd get slower as I get bound to one. Or, you know, so like things like that, Little games you can play with yourself. And that's probably not as much as a game as it was torture. But, uh, things like that. I want to get better at. You know, rather than just sitting around, watching a movie. Which, you know, has its place sometimes, but. Just yeah. Doing things that like are fun. By myself.

Bill: 25:41

Is huge.

chuck: 25:41

Yeah, it's just, it'd be more fun to be, have fun. just whenever you want. Like, you don't need someone else around you or things like that.

Bill: 25:48

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Adults have just forgotten how to play. Not to their own Uh, It's just the people you're surrounded with and the environments You've put yourself in. then all of a sudden you find yourself living a life that you're completely unhealthy, unhappy with. Meanwhile, usually the simple solution is to. you know, carve out time to play, whatever that means to you. And that's what I love about the Slingshot workshops is like we're playing these simple games that allow us to like, Explore our explore expression in a playful So we set the container. We have these minor rules. and we just interact with each other. And, you know, funny ways we make weird noises. We make weird shapes with our bodies, whatever, like the energy circle game. I love what you bring. You just like. make a funny noise and it just a weird body. movement. And it's just. Absolutely hilarious. And when that happens and you're like fully there. There's just nothing else matters.

chuck: 26:47

can feel it, everyone. everyone. could feel it. You can feel it, that other people feeling and vice versa.

Bill: 26:51

Just pure bliss. It's just so cool. And it's, it's just so simple. Um, Recognizing how. Valuable. uh, Play is, and just learning simple, you know, like approachable ways to, you know yeah. Bring it back into one's life. But, uh, yeah, I playing is great.

chuck: 27:12

Yeah, I think anytime you play Because I think sometimes you want to play and you want to have fun. But I think there's something to be said about just anytime you play, even if it's like a little weird or uncomfortable at first, like you're very aware that you're trying to play or like you're in a place state. And I think that like, just starting there, it like just Ella liked.

Bill: 27:32

like.

chuck: 27:33

People don't give themselves enough credit that they figure out like how to play in like situations that like, they usually don't play in. Well, It might seem frivolous like the games. They do seem like low child or sometimes, and sometimes, they feel a little weird, but like, you always get to that state and like you're doing giving it a shot. It really allows you to be present. Yeah. I mean, the benefits are. Like limitless. like The amount of things I could list off about how. Cool. It is.

Bill: 27:59

It, uh, it, uh, it strongly impacts brain chemistry, but to shift gears, Um, yeah, we're in Cedarburg right now. This is where Chuck and I grew up. We went to elementary school together. We went to middle school together. We went to high school together. We were buddies in elementary school and yeah, holy shit. A lot has happened, obviously. Since then, and we were me and Chuck were talking about this earlier, but you're one of the few people I remain in contact with. from high school. and. It's just interesting how our relationship. Has emerged, you know, starting with me, just recognize and how dope your art. was and how well crafted it was and how high caliber it was. I'm like, yo, stews up or Chuck. Chuck's do. Chuck's up to some dope shit. So brought him on the podcast. Uh, that was episode nine and that was back in may. but I would be curious to hear about like some of the most impactful experiences and, and some of like the major pivot points you've experienced since then, like, when you look at yourself back in may, do you. Do you feel like well, that was, I'm pretty different for them. Like, obviously, like. Three months, not too much of a big timeframe, but I know you're into personal development and like building awareness on a daily basis. And you're putting yourself out there, you know, you're coming to our wellness workshops, which are. You know, we practice all these unconventional. you know, Uh, techniques to, you know, open ourselves up and things along these So, yeah, I'd be curious to hear like the ways in which you've seen yourself. Uh, Like how you've grown over the past three months since we've last on this podcast. And if you're listening. I would encourage you to go check it out. Um, Yeah, we talk about a whole bunch of things. I actually really listened to it this morning. Uh, we talked about like the Tony Robbins workshop. You did. And you talked about, uh, one of the things you were insecure about. Was not having no, not, no. not knowing how to have, uh, or excuse me. Um, not knowing how to have played an instrument. and Now you're playing the uke. And now you're singing. more. And you also came out with a new album. So, okay.

chuck: 30:14

Yeah. Nearly be dragging this.

Bill: 30:16

sign. I want to hear about what what's up. What's been up with chalk. I think the people could obtain some value from this.

chuck: 30:23

So I think, uh, A lot of things have happened. I think since our last podcast, the biggest one, I think, and it's even more recent I like the last month. I think for the longest time, just like with, uh, With the Stuart and. This music and, you know, Pursuing that whole thing. I've learned like a lot, like the last, this last set. This last month or so it's I always like put such a big emphasis on like what I do. And, you know, Making my identity, what I do, or, um, Just like really paying attention. Like life's about what I do. And like way more the last month or two it's more. shifted to like how I live. And how I like show up with people and like very much less on what I do or like what job I have or where I go or things like that. So it's like, Putting the emphasis on that and then kind of live in my life from that standpoint. So if It's like how I live. It's like, oh, it's the decisions I make It's who I show up. as it's it's like how I. Who I am in this moment. like right now. Which is cool. Cause it kind of takes the pressure off of what you do too. And it just, it just seems like it matters As well, so. That's been like. we have a big shift because I was very set on in the beginning of this year. Like, all right. Like, The End of this year, like, you know, Stewart's gonna like pay my bills. You know, I'm like, I was very set on it. Like It's not hard. I've just got to work hard and that's what I'm going to put all my focus And I got burned out in the beginning of the year and I like. You know, took it easy this summer. And. Uh, I started, uh, working part-time as a, as a server. And I did that this summer. And that was really cool. That was like a very I wasn't sure if I started yet. I think it might've been like my first week or two. When I.

Bill: 32:15

Hollander. We're

chuck: 32:16

And Hollander. And, uh, It was more just to make money, but then like I learned like, man, like serving people, like as, you As a, you know, meaningless as it can seem sometimes, you know, you're just like a server. There's like a lot of Tibet, like a lot benefited me from just like showing up each day and like, all right, how do I serve people in the best way? Like, gotta show up with a smile on my face. Like, it's be, it became like a Zen spot for me where I didn't have to like, worry about the rest of the problems of the world that I had, whether it was like, you know, I was still like living at home for a little bit, like, so worrying about that. and like money and all right. Like as a storage stuff, gonna pan out and all that stuff into like, be kind of. You know, became like a very cool, safe spot for Um, which is like what sports used to be, where you could kind of just like. When I'm on the basketball court. Like. I'm Just in it, like I'm just sweating. I'm Just like, how do I, like, how do we score? How do we work as a team? Things like that, which is kind of what serving turned

Bill: 33:15

into nice.

chuck: 33:17

So I think that would probably be the biggest thing, but just like focusing on how I

Bill: 33:22

live.

chuck: 33:23

Now what I do. And, uh, just, you know, put myself in situations where I can succeed. So like, you know, trying to stay off my phone more. It's tough. Like, cause I really do love the stewards thing, but sometimes it can suck you in, in a way where you're just kind of like a passive consumer who just. Going down and you, it definitely has an effect on my mood. And, uh, you know, just having more compassion for myself there. Just having more fun with the stuff I make, not making it so rigid. Um, which I always go back and forth on because I want it to be good. And I want it to like show who I am, but I also don't want to force it. So. That's what I'm. That's what I got.

Bill: 34:04

I love it, dude. You're doing the work, which is just building awareness around what is the life that you love and how do I create that? Um, instead of just remaining in the same pattern day to day to day to day to day until your. fucking corpse in the ground, you know, and a lot of people, uh, unfortunately that's their path. Um, I believe that we all, uh, naturally evolve no matter what, because that's just human nature. We were. We've been forged to evolve and that's why we're here. So like automatically you're going to be moving forward and progressing just based on how we're hardwired. But, Yeah, it sounds like you are consciously choosing to. You know, create more love within yourself by just simply perceiving and viewing things differently. And being present with the moments that you have instead of being stuck in the fear, which the mind is very good at creating, being stuck in scarcity, like, you know, talking about like, oh, I don't know if Steve is going to pan out. bills, blah, blah, blah. You know, and that's like a very effective Way to take yourself out of the present moment when the present moment is really all there is, and that. By simply by just intentionally being in the present moment. Um, you're able to, uh, be the architect of your experience because you're recognizing you're there. And therefore you have the opportunity to. You know, enjoy it because you're there and you're not somewhere else. in your fucking head focusing on some bullshit. So I think that's really great and I respect the strides and I love watching you grow. I love chatting every week and it's always a pleasure.

chuck: 35:48

and.

Bill: 35:49

Uh, it's great to have a brother, you know, on the journey and to like come together and just, like I said, just shoot the shit. Integrate. You know, Talk about what's happening in life and, you know, have a real conversation yet. Have a great time doing it. You know, it's not like. Super somber and. like, Like dry

chuck: 36:10

And intense and like, all right, like, this is what we're going to do this week. Like, How are we going to fix it? Things like that, but no, you're right. It's cool. It's very unique to, like you were saying before, this is like a very unique relationship for me as well. As far as reconnecting with someone. Whose is doing something similar yet. Like very different at the same time. And, just yeah, I think we've got similar perspective, but we got like different experiences. too, which is very Oh, you know, we got, we both got different things. Like we have different strengths and different weaknesses and it's cool to like bounce back like that. And, uh, I don't know. Yeah. It's very cool. I don't know. it's crazy to think that like, it didn't exist. What. Six seven months ago. You know, Now it's like very integral, Like if I stopped going to coffee, like once a week with you. It just feel weird, you know what I mean? It'd

Bill: 36:59

And it's easy. It's like a small commitment, you know, for something that is. So beneficial and you, if you want to live a life worth living, you got to put yourself around the right people. And we fucking know. We fucking know when we're either not around the right people or when we know we're around the right people. And like, of course there's some tuning that needs to be done there. And maybe some reflection like. You know, you have to build awareness and you're automatically building awareness. That's just how the brain works. But, um, yeah, your, your life is, is primarily defined simply by the people you're putting yourself around. Um, You just take on the resonance and overall, you know, state of being and frequency. Uh, and you kind of like merge consciousnesses. If that's how you say kind of just plural. You're merging consciousnesses conscious. With the people you surround yourself with, even if you I say, like I'm not like I don't like this person I spend time with and I'm not going to take on whatever they are experiencing. You do. That's just how we work. We, our nervous systems co-regulate. And we are imprinted by the people we put ourselves around. That's one of the primary things I've realized that has helped me the most is. If I can just put myself around the right people and put myself around people that are on a similar path and that are choosing love and choosing growth and choosing honesty. I'm I'm good, man. Like I'm, I'm automatically gonna, going to, be heading in the direction. I want to head in just based on how we have evolved biologically. And then just simply by like, recognizing the difference of like, when I put myself around someone that I'm not necessarily stoked to be around and then measuring the contrast of that compared to someone that's like, oh, I just had an interaction with that person. I feel great. Like I feel super energized and the conversation we had was just really fulfilling. And I just feel way more in love with life now. It's like interesting. Um, you know, how impactful. you know, the people you put yourself around really is. And I think that's just a good point to. Hit on for anyone. Um, Sometimes it's not what's wrong. It's it's more so who is wrong? Not who. I butchered that quote, but I think y'all

chuck: 39:35

got I think feeling that too. Cause there's a lot of times too where, uh, uh, like many people I like, I really want to be liked. A lot. That's like one of my things.

Bill: 39:45

people pleasing. We all have that.

chuck: 39:47

Um, and, uh, it's, it's tough when you're in situations where at least for me, it's like, oh, I should like being around this person. I should like who I am when I'm around this person, but I'm not like I don't, like, I don't like what, uh, like what's going on in me right now. So that's been like something I've been a little more aware Sure. If you that's something you, uh, like consciously recognize if it even happens, but sometimes like I'm just not being myself around a person I've really liked that person. They're great. And like, I wish I could connect, but like, I can't. And it just, and then there's the people that you think nothing about, or I shouldn't say that like, but, um, you don't just have that same awareness that you don't feel like yourself, but. It may be a night, not be someone like you traditionally, like would spend time around. And you're like, oh man. But I really like who I am like around you. I don't know how to explain it. And I would never have thought And so I think that's like a very. Uh, cool realization in the journey like. When, like you're saying just like how you feel around certain people and how it's more like instinctual than it is like letting the brain decide like, oh, this person's cool. I wish I was like cool around them, but I'm not, I don't like it. I mean, they're like this person. Not that you don't think they're cool, but you just think of them in a different way. And like how you feel more around them and it's just, it might not be what you're used I think that's very important and You know, maybe just spending more time around that person, because sometimes you just, you just feel

Bill: 41:10

it out. That's it. The body does not The nature's infinitely intelligent and we are nature. So if you can tune into the nature of yourself and what you're experiencing within your body and use that as a compass, you're fucking set that's that's life right there. What is giving you energy? was taking away your energy. And are you actually moving towards the things that you recognize as giving you energy? And we all do things that fuck us up. You know, simply put it's like sometimes it's an addiction or a poor habit, or, you know, just out of complacency, which, you know, comfort is, is a drug. Uh, We're all addicted to comfort to a certain degree and, you know, remaining in certain relationships that can provide a sense of comfort because it's familiar. Although it's, it's, you know, a lot of the relationships we find ourselves in, they just aren't good for us. Um, and it turns into this codependent thing and blah, blah, blah. But, um, yeah, simply by like paying attention to how you're feeling. And doing some very simple, basic rudimentary self-reflection. Um, like using the mind to engage with what you're feeling. Um, that is just can provide a world of clarity for all of us. And, you know, we're both practicing that. We're all practicing that to a certain degree. And yeah, it's very important to recognize that. Like we have all the answers. Our body will give us the answers, especially with people we find ourselves around just. Yeah. tune into the body. And you know, that, and then that's also where the meditation comes in is like, I mean tons of studies on meditation and. How it impacts physiology and brain health and all these different things. And, you know, and you helps you engage with certain brainwave states. But, uh, that awareness process is like supercharged with meditation and, you know, Pretty much. Yeah. If you can, if you can tune into your body, you can effectively direct your life. Where you want to. And, you know, it sounds simple. but we have all these blockages at the same time. you know, there's things that get in the way of perceiving the truth of what we're feeling. You know, the conditioning we mentioned earlier from society and media and. Stuff like this and, and, you know, say you're eating fucking McDonald's on a daily basis. You're not going to be as sensitive to. You know, these truths that nature are delivering to you. Uh, if you're not taking care of your body, Because the body is the vessel and it has certain requirements in this. Reality to, you know, be functioning properly. But, um, Yeah. Putting yourself around the right people. Yeah.

chuck: 43:48

And I think rather than like a. a lot of me wants to try and fix it sometimes like, oh, why do I not feel good right now? Like I got to fix something. I'm not doing something right. Rather than just being like, all right, like Maybe this, not that you want to, you always want to be, you know who you are, but. you Just kind of may be accepting sometimes like, all right, this is how I feel right now in these situations. I'm not doing anything wrong. This is just how I feel. versus. Uh, trying to be like, oh, I was like this with the other person the other day. Like, why can't I be with this person? Like. I am like this person right now and just kind of, You know, surrendering in that moment rather than trying to like. put the pieces together and like your brain scrambling and like, all right, I got to, what am I going to say here? Like I got to say something, so I'm back on track or something like that. Because I think that's, that's where I get tripped up a lot when, you know, Thinking something's wrong with me. Rather than just being like, oh no, this is just who I am in these situations. And it And loving it right. Carrying it. Like there's a place for this me right here. Rather than trying to be something I'm not sometimes. And then it, then there's like that resistance because you're trying, but you're not it. so now you're even like, back further than where you started. And things like that. So, Yeah, the field. Yeah. Paying attention to the feeling more, I think is definitely another thing where it's just. I dunno, you're just way better off. If you just really listened to your gut versus your brain.

Bill: 45:16

Yeah. Yeah. That cannot I've realized though, even with that, it's like, A lot of people will base their relationships solely off feeling. It's like, that's also a slippery slope right there because there's, you know, there's compatibility like is, you know, does this person want the same things as I do to do they have like a similar vision and values and stuff like that. So that's also The mind comes in, But like recognizing also that yeah. The things you feel in the sensations within your body. um, it's like a, it's like a collaborative effort, you know? Cause we do perceive, we perceive the sensations. Uh, well, we make sense of the sensations with our mind. So it's like interesting. Like how do I fine tune the way I think. To make sure it's like in alignment with where I'm heading and then also like not like solely basing everything off of feeling. Because feelings can sometimes be false based off of certain things. I think, I don't know. That's me. Just riffing on it, but. new thoughts and stuff. It's very interesting how like, You can come to these just by having a conversation of depth. You like start saying things like, I didn't even know that, you know, it's kind of strange.

chuck: 46:32

Yeah. Yeah.

Bill: 46:33

You like piece things together. You're like, Oh, does that, I mean, I don't know, just exploring. but Yeah.

chuck: 46:37

I think discerning the feelings to where they come from. I think that's like that's a whole another layer. I think That is important. When, when analyzing how you feel like where it's coming from. And that'd probably just comes through trial and error. Really just like seeing how you feel when you say things or who you really are. Because I think a lot of people. You know when you're like your best self, Like there's been enough. I think opportunities in life. where you're like, oh man, This is who I am. This is totally who I am. And then just like trying to put yourself in situations where you feel like that more. versus like, oh, like, this is who I am, but. I know when I wa when I am, who I really am. I'm getting a little meta, but.

Bill: 47:22

I dig Yeah. That's good stuff, man. Like, yeah. Noticing when you are yourself. That's that's huge.

chuck: 47:30

of yourself And then when you really are. yourself, like that's the biggest

Bill: 47:32

a difference. There's a Distinction there. That's, that's tough. That gets tricky for sure. Because the, yeah, just. Our mind is not us. And our mind thinks in certain ways, according to like the environment we were brought up in and the people we've put ourselves around. So a lot of times you can't trust the mind to make. The distinction. So. Yeah. That's like, it's like, what? Like how do we even. navigate these waters?

chuck: 47:59

Yeah. The mines are the ones making the decision. So how can you not trust it sometimes?

Bill: 48:04

it's fucking weird. Yeah, Meditation meditation I think that's how you get closer to your truth is. Like giving yourself that space to just be still and to just breathe and to learn how to quiet the mind. And then through that, I think you find tune. your mind to your actual soul's truth. Which. I mean, that's always changing. And like, who knows what that actually is. and that at the core My, my purpose and truth and all these different things. I'm always, it's always shape-shifting and, you know, Uh, just changing over the course of time and becoming this new thing. But, uh, yeah, today's conversation was fantastic. Uh, any last

chuck: 48:50

No once again, I'm glad we just showed up. I didn't know where we're going to go with it. I honestly didn't even know. We really started. Until we started.

Bill: 48:57

Yeah. I didn't. Yeah,

chuck: 49:00

you didn't, you didn't like announce it.

Bill: 49:01

I don't like doing intros. I realized, I feel that it's just too structured and, and it feels like I'm like reading off a script. Um, which the goal for me is to like, learn how to do the intros from just a place of flow from my heart and to where I'm not like thinking and trying to shape it too Which I really felt like this conversation today. I was just beautiful free flow riffing, and we hit on a lot of good points, you know? Uh, play and how important it is to, you know, seek out play and how it impacts, uh, our path and our truth and ourselves and society. And yeah, some other stuff catching up with Stu.

chuck: 49:40

Yeah, it's funny too. How I think we we still are learning a lot about each other and how we think and thinks like me and up once a week. you'd think, oh, you'd run out of stuff to talk about. Or like, and even like, we talk about a lot of the same topics, but it's always like a new angle, like a new perspective. like A new little nugget, something like that. And it's just fun. You know, here in what we've both been up to in the past week. Cause there's always something Whether it's one or both of us, like we've got something to talk about. So today, No different.

Bill: 50:08

Oh, yeah. Awesome. Well, yeah, I appreciate you, bro. Well, it's a let's have you drop your plugs and anything you want to announce? You know, we didn't, we didn't talk. Well, I mentioned. the album, But yeah. share what you want to share with the people and. uh, yeah. Share your stuff.

chuck: 50:22

Yeah. Uh, if, uh, I make music. I'm a rapper and I make videos. So you can follow me at XO, XO Stewart on all platforms. Uh, I have a new EPO. You can look up lemon, honey kamma meal. On Spotify or whatever you listen to music. It's the only song slash EAP. That's named lemon. Honey kamma meal. We did the research.

Bill: 50:45

Good.

chuck: 50:45

And so you'll It's by myself and my friend, the pale goblin. Uh, and, uh, I have merge. You can buy a shirt. Bill bought

Bill: 50:55

They're great. It's super high quality. The design. Just everything about its. Oh, it's incredibly. Well-rounded.

chuck: 51:02

So you can get that or get a sticker or something like that. But other than that, I don't got a whole lot. Just be kind to each other. I think I said that last time.

Bill: 51:10

The conference and You guys keep an eye on what Chuck. Slash do is up to, because yeah, it's you're going to be huge brother. I know it.

chuck: 51:19

Appreciate

Bill: 51:20

Um, all right. Thank you all so much for listening. Love you all. smooches. Bye.