I'm only alive , able to tell you this because God let me live . He's the glory of my being here , able to talk , and I think that this part of my story is the most significant aspect of my diagnosis . So I went into the white light , which I know nothing about , I just am telling you my experience Went into a bright white light and God told me to rest in the white light until I could breathe easier . And when I was in that light , I suddenly could breathe , I was at peace , I was calm .
Speaker 2You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast , a part of the Healing Strong organization , the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world . The number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world . Each week , we bring you stories of hope , real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health . Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver , jim Mann .
Speaker 3I have with me a young lady who is a two-time cancer survivor just showing off there . Registered nurse , french culinary school trained chef and healthy food recipe creator and influencer on Instagram . Man , she doesn't do anything . This is Jill Sondland . How you doing , Jill ?
Speaker 1I'm doing great , thank you .
Speaker 3You had me at chef . By the way , I'm no chef , I'm not a baker , I'm not a cook , but I am an eater . I'm a professional eater , so we'll get along great . And I've been skinny all my life , so I eat nonstop , which is not really healthy . Of course , I do eat a lot . It's terrible , but I have to train myself to give my stomach a break , let it rest for a little bit before I snack again . But you have survived cancer twice . And before we get into that story , are you still an active nurse ?
Speaker 1Well , I'm coming right out of my second cancer . So no , I would say I'm actively nursing . But what I do come from a line of nurses . My grandmother was a nurse and she worked till 89 years of age . She died at 92 . So I'm not until God calls me home and Jesus calls me home . I'm ready to work .
Speaker 1But I think , because I am a high energy kind of person , I really just have always been a lover of learning new things and just reaching for different new experiences that will make me grow . I'm ready to get back into the world , but I know that through these experiences I'm meant to just rest , take care of me and slow down . I think God is teaching me that . So I'm not actively doing any job other than kind of interesting work on my social media , which I don't really . You know , it's a small little something , but I help a lot of people , I pray for them , I , I support them . Uh , they talk to me about their problems . I always have been that person Um , and and I offer now only um in my uh , social media health and wellness as well as um , health and wellness as well as recipes . And then I also , do you know , in my slowing down .
Speaker 1I got a newspaper column . I'm writing a monthly newspaper column on health , which I just can't believe . How good God is , I mean I just I thank him every day . I can't believe I got to do this , I get to do this . So I'm working on that .
Speaker 1I write about a different health topic monthly and it's something I've always wanted to do . I used to read Dear Abby as a kid and think , oh , that would be a great job . But I grew up and I forgot all about that until I got lymphoma and this opportunity was brought to me that they were offering our local newspaper called the Doylestown Cardinal that they offered me a monthly column that I could write about any health topic each month . And I just cannot believe I'm so blessed , so kind of not working , but I'm working .
Speaker 1So that's kind of a combination of working as a nurse and a chef , because I put recipes in the newspaper , I put health information and even as a nurse in nursing school I won awards at graduation for communication and all that . I used to teach student nurses when I was a student . I like imparting knowledge because I feel like I've always known that knowledge is power and that sounds cliche , but knowledge helps us . It helps us in life . So it helps us experience life , helps us make good decisions and helps us enjoy life to the maximum . So , yeah , I love writing that column . It's just so awesome .
Speaker 3Yeah , Now how long have you been a chef ?
Speaker 1Okay , so , if you don't mind , I'll backtrack . Yeah , now , how long have you been a chef ? Okay , so , if you don't mind , I'll backtrack .
Speaker 3Sure .
Speaker 1I wanted to be a nurse my entire life , since I was a little tiny girl . Maybe when I was five , people would say , oh , what do you want to be when you grow up ? I wanted to be a nurse and I did everything towards that goal and became a nurse and loved it and excelled in it and had big goals and dreams . Because I always that's just the kind of person I am . I like to look beyond even just where I'm at and grow . But then I had a child and my child had a disability . So I left working as a nurse and then I raised my family from that point on .
Speaker 1But I used my nursing skill set in various ways . I used to oh my gosh , I donated all of my time and money and energy to nonprofits . I love charitable organizations and I would just make all the food and make all these neat parties for them and all the way I owe money . I just love doing it . But then my children grew up and I was really sad , as many parents feel that emptiness . Oh , I felt so sad . So my kids would say Mom , you're always cooking for groups and you're hired by people to do their parties as a home cook . Why don't you go to culinary school . You always joke about that , why don't you go do it ? And I'm like , no , that was like a joke . Well , I did . I went up and drove to French culinary school and went there and loved it . Loved it so much .
Speaker 1So then I wound up working part-time as a registered nurse and part-time as a chef , and there would be times where I might be numbing up a patient with a needle and I'd think , uh-oh , am I in my chef uniform or am I in my nursing uniform ? I'd have to check , I'd take a peek down . Oh whew , I'm in my nursing shoes and not my chef shoes , because I was working one to the other every other day . It was so crazy , but I loved it and so I went to nurse . I went to chef school when I was in my mid forties , so I'm , you know , mid fifties , so I'm 10 , 10 plus years into being a chef .
Speaker 1But I combined the two it's . It's great because I love art with food . That's what got me interested in culinary school , not just technically cooking , well , it's using art with food . That's where I thrive and I shine . I use art with food . But now I decided , after this lymphoma , I'm going to use the gifts God has given me with making just really savory , visually appealing , bad-for-you food . I'm going to use that same gift that God's given me now to lure in beautiful health and wellness in my food .
Speaker 3That's what I was assuming . I was going to say , I'm sure , before you got your diagnosis , the food was just very good to the taste and looked beautiful , of course . And then , once you got your diagnosis , I'm thinking it went more on the nutrition side , right ?
Speaker 1Yeah , I'll tell you . Actually the food was always my art form . So even when I would make grant , like the key giving ceremonies for habitat for humanity , I would do all their key giving ceremonies and I'd make a full spread of food . But it was my chance to be art , artistic . So I would have fancy food and I just made . It was a win-win because they got a great table of food and I got to use my art .
Speaker 1But it's transitioning into making it healthy , but I still use it as art . So if you look on my Instagram , which is Jill's Gourmet Dreams , you'll see all of my food . Even if I'm making a muffin , even if I'm making a salad , it's going to look like a work of art because it just makes me happy . It's not for anything other than God knows , it makes me happy to just make it look pretty . But I always strive that it must look amazing , because you eat with your eyes first , obviously . So it has to make your eyes get excited and then it has to come through with taste and nutrition . I'm not going to just go eyes and taste anymore . Now it's eyes , taste and nutrition to fight off cancer and disease . So now it's a three-part goal . Everything I make .
Speaker 3Yeah , I was looking at your Instagram and I now wish I hadn't , because I'm very hungry . Just looking at those pictures , they look fabulous .
Speaker 1Don't scroll down too far , because when I would make really indulgent food before I got lymphoma , oh my gosh . I went to town . It was so much fun and I work with tons of food brands and , oh , I gave way more than I should have . I had so much fun , love it .
Speaker 3I did scroll down too far , thanks a lot . Well , let's go with your story . You got diagnosed , I think it was seven years ago . Tell us what happened .
Speaker 1Okay , so 2017 , I found my own lump and , being a nurse , I had a lot of knowledge about what to look for and I was always very careful and knowledgeable about the signs and symptoms if I were to get breast cancer . But I found it myself and I found it in a very unusual spot , which is a significant thing in my story too , because a lot of women find it in the circles , and for me , I found it up by my clavicle . You know this long wound here . So my teensy , tiny little I thought it was a mosquito bite , but I got it checked just in case . And good thing I did , because I've always had really good senses , always and it's God I realize now it was always God but as a nurse , always very , very fine-tuned to little things , and it helped a lot of my patients and it helped me . So I
went right in . They said it was stage one breast cancer , but because I was BRCA2 and because of the cell type which was the most aggressive , even though I caught it early , stage one I was going to need the bilateral mastectomy and I also was going to need just four doses of chemo . So and a lot of women get these three chemicals I was going to be able to skip the red devil , so that was like a big wonderful pleasure . But I did not tolerate those four doses at all . Those four doses nearly killed me . My body does not like medicine and those four doses my whole body swelled with fluid . 20 pounds of fluid head to toe for three years . Most people get their chemo and they lose weight . For me , my lymphatic system went berserk filled up with fluid and that was actually the start to me having lymphoma . So I'm most likely I got the secondary lymphoma from the primary breast cancer chemo when I was five years out of breast cancer . When you're like that's your big thing , you're waiting for the five-year point and if you're free of cancer then you're generally really low risk of it ever returning . I had just made the five-year breast cancer point and within two months , two months later , almost just overnight , I almost died from lymphoma .
Speaker 1I had an acute , terrible , life-threatening respiratory type of lymphoma that suddenly crushed my trachea and both of my main airway tubes , called your bronchi and my lungs . So I was almost unable to breathe for about eight days and I didn't know what happened because of course I didn't think it was cancer . I just woke up one day , the end of September 2022 . I couldn't breathe . Suddenly , about 11 o'clock in the morning , I said to my husband take me to the university hospital . Something's wrong . I can't breathe . So that began the long journey of nearly dying and I kind of think I may have passed away .
Speaker 1I spent 13 days in University of Pennsylvania fighting for my life because these lymphoma nodules swelled around my trachea and both airway tubes to both lungs and I couldn't get air in . And I actually had . This was one of the things that's significant with me . I actually had several near-death experiences while in there and my thought is I probably my heart probably stopped because for eight days I just was not hardly breathing , and so , several different times , suddenly I found myself . I went right up into this bright white light and I have to say I know nothing about near-death situations . I never read these books , I never watched TV or anything about it . I just know what happened to me .
Speaker 1I was laying in my bed , not on any medication , and it was during the day , and I went into a white light and this is really significant to my story and I'm only alive , able to tell you this , because God let me live . He's the glory of my being here , able to talk , and I think that this part of my story is the most significant aspect of my diagnosis . So I went into the white light , which I know nothing about . I just am telling you my experience . Went into a bright white light and God told me to rest in the white light until I could breathe easier . And when I was in that light I suddenly could breathe , I was at peace , I was calm and I saw what I will say was interpreted by me and I remember it vividly . It's not something I forget one day . It wasn't a dream , I wasn't sleeping , it was the afternoon , there was no medicine , but I laid in the white light because I was told lay here until you can breathe easier . And I did what I was told and I laid in that white light and God was around me on one side , in like a sparkly also I can say it's hard to say it was like a sparkly , silvery , glitter presence and I just was . I knew that was God on this side . The other side was a gold and cream , glittery form and that was Jesus . And I was told to rest until I can breathe easier .
Speaker 1And that very first time I was told one word . In that light . God spoke to me . I saw the word in caps and I also heard it and God told me believe . And I was in that light and I honestly tell you I said , of course God , of course I believe , because I was a born again Christian at age 11 . I always was extremely faithful . I was a normal girl . I wasn't perfect my whole life , but I was very faithful , super faithful . So in that light I was like a little confused , like , of course I believe , lord , of course , and that's .
Speaker 1I didn't get any more response and I laid in that light until I felt I was , could breathe better , and then I suddenly was thrust back into my body and I told my husband and my two adult kids just had the weirdest experience and that white light just stayed above me a lot . I just saw a white opening , white light above me and I would say to my husband and kids oh no , I hope I'm not going to be called back in there . I see that white light Happened several times . The second time I went back in the light , god told me we are one . Now I never heard of the phrase , that phrase . I was not a Bible reader . I might have loved Jesus and been faithful , went to church a lot . I didn't read the Bible . I never had heard that phrase we are one Came back to my body and then I think a third time , I went in and wasn't told anything more , I just got my breath , went back to my body and went on .
Speaker 1But I told my housewing kids the whole time like , uh-oh , I see that light . And then eventually the nodes went off my lungs and I was able to breathe . There's more to the story . They started chemo and everything shrunk the nodules off my airway . But it happened overnight . Right after this situation and since my lymphoma being in quarantine , my immune system was really , really hard and immunocompromised . I was in the house for about a year plus on quarantine because I don't have a great immune system from all the chemo .
Speaker 1I read the Bible faithfully once or twice a day and I research . Where does it say in the Bible believe ? Where does it say in the Bible we are one ? And I study those phrases and you know it's so enlightening . I know now why . I know a lot , why Maybe God will reveal more . But I know now why those words were important for God to speak to me . It wasn't just believe , because I did believe in Jesus and there wasn't any parameters as what to believe . It wasn't believe I'm the Son of God or believe that I'm X , y and Z , it was believe blank .
Speaker 1And what I've read in the Bible all the time , god or Jesus would say because you believe in me , you are healed . Because you believe in this , god blesses you when you believe and you become one of the body of Christ , which is we are one in John 17 . So there's just so many miraculous lessons I've learned and I'm just so grateful for that . I read in the Bible how God speaks to different people in the Bible at different points of time , and I think , wow , like there is absolutely a God , there's absolutely Jesus . I experienced that in the light and I've experienced being spoken to and I'm going to listen because I'm not going to do anything . That's not what God wants me to do . I'm not going to do anything . That's not what God wants me to do . So I really strongly believe and make that really just such a strong covenant in my life with God and Jesus and we are one , knowing that I'm part of the body of Christ , and I feel so , so privileged , so privileged . You know you don't get that . I would never have had that acknowledgement or knowledge , the wisdom that you gain from God and everyone gets knowledge from the Bible , it's the living word .
Speaker 1Well , for me , going in that light , that just changed me . I've been saying since I got home from the hospital I look the same , but I am not the same . I am not only renewed , as you might read in the Bible . I am completely different in everything . God has changed me for the better in so many ways . I love my new life , even though it's not perfect . I'm not perfectly healthy , I don't have perfect health , I have a lot of concerns regarding health and other life things . But I've never been happier , never been at more peace , and I just feel so fortunate to have had that moment in the light .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's definitely unique to you . That's something that no one else could share with you , and you probably felt like , ah , I want to tell more people , but they're going to think I'm crazy . Did you ever get that feeling ?
Speaker 1Well , my gosh , jim , you are so right . Like , first of all , I thought it was crazy because I'm human . I'm human , like what was that ? I didn't think it was crazy per se , I knew for sure . God let you know , there's no misunderstanding when God speaks to you , you know . But I thought , oh my gosh , like what does God want me to do with this ? And so I would ask separate people like what do you think I should do with this , you know ? And they would say , oh , you know . They would just say , oh , it's , you know . It's good that that happened .
Speaker 1Nobody knows what to do with it , and I don't even know what to do with it . But you know what ? I prayed a lot about it and I trust God's going to do with it what he wants , and even if it's nothing , but that's why it was really important that I told you about that , and it doesn't matter if nothing happens , but it's definitely
. I tell a lot of people that I know may or may not be believers . I'll say , okay , let me just tell you . You don't have to hear my whole story . But there is a God and there is Jesus . Jesus is a son , and they know me so well that they trust me . I've always been really just everybody's confidant and such , and I'll say you know what I'm telling you believe Jesus is real , god is real , I experienced it and so .
Speaker 3Yeah , it definitely changed you as a person . You're closer to God . You read the Bible .
Speaker 3I mean I had several incidents in my story where God just did something unique to me . That made me realize okay , he does know me intimately , he knows what my journey is , he knew it before it happened . He's let me know , he's going to be there with me through it . It didn't catch him off guard . It sounds like that's pretty much something that you felt , also like God saying hey , we got you , we take care of you , nothing to worry about .
Speaker 1Yeah , I really feel like I probably my heart probably stopped from the distress of not being able to breathe for eight days . They couldn't intubate me because I was too high a risk , so I just had to be strangled , slowly suffocating for eight days . It was horrible , it was just awful , and I know my heart must have stopped and that's why I went in that light and God gave me life again . All that makes sense to me , at least as a human trying to figure it out . But , yeah , god speaks to each of us and I think the word believe is such an important word because it's always connected in the Bible to Jesus and something good , you know , whether it's healing or protection or conquering something .
Speaker 1And I think to myself why did God tell me to believe ? I already believe in him and Jesus , but now I see that maybe he wanted me to believe that he can do all things , maybe he wanted me to believe in his power over what I was going through . Because I was like , of course , I believe , I believe it all , like I'm not a rebel , I'm not a rebel child of god or anybody else and not a rebel person . So , um , I was like , oh yeah , he saw my heart . I believe , of course I believe . I believe in it all and I think he gave me life because of that .
Speaker 1No , I never try to propose my future . Now I'm only one year out and I just give my life to God and I just tell him every day , every day you give me , thank you so much . I know what it's like to be in that light . I know what it's like to be so close to death , and every day I just am so thankful for it at a heightened level , even a year and four months later . Every day and every single thing is so much more special , and I never was one who didn't think little things were special , but now I'm even more so .
Speaker 3But how did you come across Healing Strong ?
Speaker 1I believe Chris Work .
Speaker 3Yes , it usually is .
Speaker 1Surprise , surprise .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1So with my breast cancer chemo that's another interesting story because I did not listen to my intuition and I believe my intuition has always been the Holy Spirit speaking to me and I was a good , faithful Christian . Back with breast cancer , but I didn't have a lot of knowledge . Right , you gain knowledge as you grow in your faith , but I don't know that I was growing so much . So when I had breast cancer , they told me I was going to need chemo and I was hysterical about it because something inside me was like no , do not do chemo . Now this is weird because I was a nurse . I took care of cancer patients . I gave medicine . I had no prior objection to chemo or medication or treatments or radiation . My own grandmother , who I loved dearly , had chemo radiation . I had no bias or negativity against it .
Speaker 1But for some reason , I would say with my breast cancer I was literally crying . I got like three different opinions and they all said I needed chemo . And I would cry and I would say you have no idea , you're making me go against my morals . And they would be like your morals . I can't explain it , but my morals are saying do not do this . And I would say to everybody doctors , nurses , my husband , my kids . I don't want to do it because I feel like I'm going against my moral code . I feel like I'm being forced to drunk drive in a playground full of kids .
Speaker 1I was totally going against what something inside was telling me not to do . And that doesn't mean it's not a good thing for some . I took it with lymphoma and it saved my life . But I'm just saying with breast cancer and for me God was speaking and saying don't , but everybody said I had to do it . So I did it and guess what ? I was one of the sickest little early stage one cancer girls and I was really sick for three years and then I got lymphoma from that chemo . So I think about that often . Like you know what ? I have always had good instincts I'm trusting God . Now I'm just . Those instincts are all about trusting God and I needed it for lymphoma and it saved my life . So I'm not I'm not saying anything harsh against chemo . It actually can cure some cancers and it's necessary and needed . But just with my breast cancer , early stage one , something was saying not to , but with lymphoma , thank God God used that to get me through .
Speaker 3So you did a little research , came across Chris Wark probably , and then he talks about healing strong .
Speaker 1Yep Uh-huh and was following him , was on his website a lot . I ordered his square one back seven years ago . It was a lot of money for me back then but I was like I need this to my husband . My husband's so wonderful , he's like let's get it . And so I got it and watched it over and over again , got familiar with it and I would say that I did a lot of the things . Not all of the things because I was really , once I got out of the first three years of the fluid , the lymphatic fluid on my body being just not leaving me . After that I really really focused on healthy eating , exercise and all of those things and I got really healthy . So I did a lot of what Chris's square one says , but not like now . Now , with the second lymphoma , oh , I'm just all over it like you can't believe . And then some .
Speaker 3Yeah , and it helps to be a chef and a nurse .
Speaker 1It helps to be a chef . But you know what I'll tell you . That's funny . You say that because I love playing with food . Food are my paints , they are my music , my musical notes . I come from a very creative family . We're all good cooks , we have singers and drawers and just a lot of creative people and writers . But for me my food was my art form . I didn't play an instrument and I wasn't writing anything , but food was my instrument .
Speaker 1When I first got well enough to cook after lymphoma , it took me a little while to figure out how to make a bowl full of vegetables look fancy , delicious , magazine cover worthy and to my liking , because it has to please me . And then I just put it out and it doesn't matter . At that point I just post what makes me happy . But it took a while . But you know what I'm getting the hang of it . I have to say I'm really getting excited . I got all kinds . Now I'm feeling good , the brain's working good , I'm getting creative ideas , how to make carrots and celery look like I don't know , the cover of Gourmet Magazine . It's such a challenge I love and I thrive on .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm definitely going to follow you so I can salivate over all these pictures . Do you put recipes on there also ?
Speaker 1I do put recipes on there yeah often .
Speaker 1All right , and I will more . I have to get more technological , though . I do a lot of um , tell me in your comments if you want the recipe , and so a lot of the fancy influencers . You know they have all the technological advances that , like . All you have to do is type in their comments , oh , I want the recipe . And then instantly something puts it into my dms . Well , for me , I don't know how to do that , so guess what I write ? Oh , if you , if you're interested , just write recipe in the comments . Well , I just have to . I go one by one and I I have like a , a screenshot of a recipe , and it takes me hours . But and then the other thing about my Instagram , which has made me a little bit more , I think , successful .
Speaker 1I love communicating with people . I like the one-on-one . I want to help people . I always have , even back when I first started this with breast cancer , like seven , eight years ago . So my DMs , I'll be like here's a recipe , here's a couple of tricks . So my DMs , I'll be like here's a recipe , here's a couple of tricks . If you have any problems , give me , text me and add this in . This tastes great . I know I'm hours answering these DMs , but I like giving people real help . I love it .
Speaker 3Yeah , I was going to say otherwise , just find a seven-year-old and they'll do all the technical stuff for you . Exactly . Well , how can people get a hold of you ? I guess the Instagram is probably the best way , right ?
Speaker 1Instagram and the DMs is the best way . I also have my Instagram email , jill , at jillscoremadreamscom , and they can also check out my health column in Doyle Sound , Cardinal , and I call it the happy Hometown to a Vibrant Community , and so that's the main title , but then I have a subtitle of a different health topic each month . So that's really helpful , like important health topics , not just random . Something that's really important . You know eating too much sugar and how that affects all of us , not just cancer patients . Sugar , how white sugar and white flour are actually . They're seductive poisons . I call them Right . You have one bite and you just want to keep gobbling it up and it just sets your body on a vicious cycle of high glucose and cravings and going off your diet . So your weight loss is messed up , your diabetes is at higher risk cancer . Those articles are really a part of my heart . They're going to be important issues to everybody , not just generic health topic .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 1Oh , there was one other thing , if you have time really quick . So after my lymphoma 13 days I was discharged and I was super , super ill but alive , and I was really weak , but alive , and I was really weak . So two weeks bedridden , not able to breathe , I lost 14 pounds and I lost a lot of muscle and fat in my body . I couldn't even walk the steps to get up to bed . My husband had to carry me and I'm normally a strong girl .
Speaker 1But after a day or two being in my bed upstairs , I used to love listening to music . So I said to my husband can you give me my phone ? I want to listen to something good and just get my mind happy again . So I went into my phone and I had a habit of if a song was important , if something moved me in music , I would put it on repeat . And I thought to myself laying in that bed just looking terrible .
Speaker 1After this experience I thought , all right , what do I want to listen to ? I thought I'm sure there's probably something really good that I was listening on repeat . I'm just going to go there . So I go into my phone , I go to the last song that was in my phone that I had been listening to on repeat for a week before I had this experience and it is called Great Are you Lord , by Casting Crowns , and that's a significant song , because I was like , oh , I forget what that song was . Let me play it . I played it and don't you know that song ?
Speaker 1All the words pertain to my experience . It talks about the choruses it's your breath in my lungs , we pour out our praise to you . And it talks about the bones and just how God breathes life into our bones and how God is the breath in all our lungs . And I was just sitting there thinking how ironic . I couldn't breathe .
Speaker 1Then I could breathe , and the last song on my playlist that I listened to nonstop for a week was this song Great Are you Lord , talking about you're the breath in my lungs . And God really was the breath in my lungs and still remains the breath in my lungs . And God really was the breath in my lungs and still remains the breath in my lungs . And to this day , I exercise at most every day . I love nature and I always make time to go , and not only does that remind me that I can breathe easy , because I remember vividly of not being able to take a deep breath , or any breath , but I thank God for that air that he put in my lungs , because it's God breathing lungs and life into me . So listen to that song . It's pretty significant if you know my story . I just it's ironic .
Speaker 3Yeah , it was great meeting you and I'm going to be all over your Instagram .
Speaker 1Thank you , I will follow back .
Speaker 3All right , and when you make a , if you do the recipe , make it so that like a fourth grader can understand it .
Speaker 1That'll be me , will do , will do , I will do that .
Speaker 3All right , thank you very much .
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