We go out , we go meet couples and it's kind of hard to talk about , you know , cancer in front of everybody or what I've learned . But if you get in a group that is similar to your situation , it's much easier and you can . I mean , I just want to help people really .
Speaker 3You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast , a part of the Healing Strong organization , the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world . Each week , we bring you stories of hope , real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health . Now here's your host , stage four cancer thriver , jim Mann . Now here's your host , stage four cancer thriver , jim Mann .
Speaker 2Well , I'm excited to bring another story to people so that they can be encouraged and find hope , and today we're talking to Jim Tabler all the way in Ohio . You're up there and of course , it's not cold right now .
Speaker 1You're probably sweating , just like us . We just had a heat wave , yeah what .
Speaker 2Is that like 70 ?
Speaker 1Yeah , in the 90s , close to 100 .
Speaker 2Holy mackerel , are you serious yeah ?
Speaker 1Yeah , it was warm yeah .
Speaker 2What part of Ohio Are you near Cleveland ?
Speaker 1No , it's actually northwest Ohio .
Speaker 2Okay , I say okay , like I know Ohio , I've been to Cleveland once , and it was in February . I've been to Cleveland once , and it was in February .
Speaker 1A dumb time to go to Cleveland . Yeah , right on the lake .
Speaker 2It was very cold . I was over business so I had to be there , but still it was very cold , and I grew up in Baltimore , so I'm used to cold , but not quite that cold . And you've lived there for how long .
Speaker 1Oh , almost my whole life . We moved here when I was in the fourth grade . That winter was the year that ohio northwest ohio had its blizzard . So going from the , from the beaches of virginia beach , to the blizzard of ohio , just yeah for a kid it was fun at the time , you know yeah , I , I still love the snow , and I lived in florida for 22 years , after baltimore , of course , and uh , didn't get a lot of snow there now and here our blizzards are like a half an inch every two or three years .
Speaker 2It just shuts down the whole town because we have like one snow plow in virginia it was the same way .
Speaker 1They got half an inch and everything shut down yeah isn't that funny ? Oh it is , it is .
Speaker 2Whoa , Jim , can I call you Jim ?
Speaker 1Sure .
Speaker 2Yep , so your real name is James right ?
Speaker 1It is yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah .
Speaker 1But , like I said for 32 years in corrections , no one really knew my last name because when I started working there , my boss , out of the blue , just called me Jimbo . Well , everybody just started calling me Jimbo and someone would say , hey , go tell Tabler that he needs to come in the office . And they're like who's that ? It's Jimbo . Oh , okay , yeah , I'll go get him .
Speaker 2Yeah , so you had most of your career , or all of your career was in in corrections .
Speaker 1Yes , it was yeah . So I did several different jobs . I was a vocational teacher , I worked in recreation , I worked in maintenance . I was a correctional officer . I worked in the psych ward . I worked in the psych ward in OPI where we had like 70 sewing machines and we made all the clothing throughout Ohio for all the offenders .
Speaker 2Wow .
Speaker 1Yeah , shirts , pants , bed sheets , pillowcases .
Speaker 2Did you enjoy that job ?
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean , yeah , it actually was helping the guys learn a trade . You know , yeah , job yeah I mean , yeah , it actually was helping the guys learn a trade .
Speaker 2You know , yeah , it was actually preparing them for when they got released , to be have something in their their pocket to go out and be successful yeah , yeah , I know , like some , some people who think , oh man , working in a jail must be horrible , must be very dangerous and and of course at times it is . But I know , I've done . I've never worked in a jail but I've done . Uh , I've been in music groups where we would go and minister in jails . And I thought man , it's usually like your favorite place to be .
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2We were playing outside and it was a high security or whatever you call that up in New York . And so we're out there and these guys are just huge and I thought , oh my gosh , most of these guys are in here , probably killed somebody . We're up on the flatbed truck playing and I'm playing bass and I'm like I'm just a skinny little fellow up here . They can just snap me in half .
Speaker 1I don't know why they would do that , but still A lot of those guys oh Jim , a lot of those guys appreciate that .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1They really do .
Speaker 2Here's the deal we're playing and all of a sudden they start rushing the stage and I about lost it . Then we realized there's a storm coming behind us and they grabbed my bass amp and they took it off because it was very heavy . They took care of us . They're like here comes a storm , it's going to ruin your equipment . So it scared Stu out of me until I realized what they were doing . They're like well , these guys are great .
Speaker 1Right , yeah .
Speaker 2So that's my prison story .
Speaker 1There you go .
Speaker 2That's all I got . You have a few more , but we only have a half hour to talk . That's right . So you have a . You have a journey where you had a diagnosis , and it wasn't that long ago , right no , it was uh March of 23 wow yeah that's just a little over a year ago yeah , yeah so tell me what happened uh well , so it was my very first colonoscopy oh fun oh , yeah , yeah , and I'll tell you , it was like the whole world just crashed down on me .
Speaker 1He came in and said you know , we found this , we think it's , we think it's uh colon cancer and uh , he called it um , he called it lynch syndrome I don't know if you ever heard of that . So I guess an inherent genetic disorder that increases the risk of developing many types of cancer . Most common is the colon cancer .
Speaker 2Right right .
Speaker 1He started saying you got to have your kids tested , this is . It almost put us at a panic .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 1And so all of our kids have been tested , my brothers have been tested , and it put us in a whirlwind , you know . So I had to go back and I always look at what chris work said about genetics . Genetics loads the gun , but your diet and your lifestyle and your environment pull the trigger right and so my , my diet , my and your environment pulled the trigger , and so my diet and my lifestyle . Just it pulled the trigger big time . So then I had surgery in April .
Speaker 1They took half my colon . Funny story me and my wife months later driving down the road and she looked at me and she said , yeah , I was so surprised they took your appendix out . And I looked at her and I said what you knew that ? Right , they took your appendix . I'm like no , I didn't know that . Wow , yeah . And then you know , just through that I got with so my cousin who had breast cancer at the age of 38 , we called her right away and just she said clean your whole cupboard out , no artificial sugars , get rid of them , right . And so , and then I have two cousins , one actually had brain cancer at 40 . And so it is in the family tree . I mean it's . If you see my family tree on the tabler side you'd be like Whoa , you know , cancer , cancer , cancer , cancer . So we did that and and and basically last June it's been a year that I went , uh , all vegan .
Speaker 2Wow .
Speaker 1And so no dairy , no , no , no meat , no artificial meat , none of that .
Speaker 2So was that tough for you , or you were just so motivated that it wasn't as hard ?
Speaker 1well , you know you , it's funny , you say that word motivation I was . I was motivated and , and like I always , I'll quote chris work a lot , but he said motivation is is is just temporary . It's the determination that will continue on . For your life , and so I was motivated at first , but I am determined to stay healthy and just be around for a while .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , it's cause it's all about how much you want it . I know Chris says that too , that you got to want , you got to have a will to live . Some people are just like it's not worth it . You know I'm doomed , and then they get that mindset and it's downhill from there . But we all have that fight in us and we got to find that fight , especially for the family , if nobody else . Right , how many kids do you ? He had ?
Speaker 1we have four kids . We have three girls and a son who is uh , he's our youngest , he's 20 years old and , um , he's our farmer oh yes , amy's dad is a farmer and so he , our son , is going to two-year college road state going into ag technology . So he loves it . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2So you were a doctor ? Did they he or she , whoever it was , did they just want to do chemo ?
Speaker 1you know the typical or Well , so I've been lucky with my doctors I really have . So my oncologist we were getting ready to do the chemo and it was the Sunday before I was supposed to get my port in and my wife was out in our garden , in the backyard and that's why I always call my story in the garden , because that's where I went out there and I kind of told her I've just got this feeling in my heart , my gut , it's the Holy Spirit talking to me that God came in , the surgeons did a great job , but it's like God has repaired me and he wants me to go on this natural journey , and so she was all for it . We had a virtual meeting with the doctor that week and I told him and he said , like he was sincere , he's like you know what ? That's fine , I don't , I don't care , but I'm , I'm here for you .
Speaker 1So it was great that way yeah . And so it is , it really is , and so he's been kind of on this journey with us and he gets little reports . Like you know , the tree , the tree nuts are good for you . Walking exercise , which you know I do every day or for five days a week . I enjoy my exercise . So when I first started out I was 271 . I'm 210 now wow I lost 60 pounds , yeah that's a lot yeah , yeah , but I've maintained the 210 , so my wife always worries if I get too low .
Speaker 2But yeah , if I lost 70 pounds , that would just be a head and feet .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , I don't have that much of me here , but I've always been scrawny I remember hearing some of your podcasts you talking about being the smallest one in the class and yeah , yeah , but with the biggest head , beautiful Anyway . So he's been great through this journey too , and my family doctor has been incredible , so I've been blessed that way , you know .
Speaker 2Right , okay , so obviously . Now , who told you to get on this diet ?
Speaker 1Well with my cousin who had the breast cancer Right . She was a huge help . Um , but when I grabbed chris work's uh , crispy cancer book , that was just that . That was a .
Speaker 1That was a lifesaver for me right because today I feel I have so much more energy . I feel so much more energy , I feel so much better . You know , I got on his square one program , but to me he was , he was a , he was a lifesaver . I mean , I just so , I just followed his book to the T . No one really , you know , encouraged or you know right , followed me . Um , the only really thing that I haven't done , that I'm going to do , is start juicing . I haven't really juiced . I like the fasting . So every three months I fast for three to five days .
Speaker 2Wow .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's kind of my , that's kind of my gig and and and and and the Christian music uh . Tasha Layton . I know you had interviewed her , but I love my Christian music , so .
But yeah , no one really , except for my wife . You know we've walked together in this . She actually lost 20 pounds herself and she's almost like you .
Speaker 1She had really nowhere to lose it , but you know , but uh , so when we fix our meals , we'll I'll fix my meal , we'll have like rice and beans , and then , you know , my son's still growing , he's still a young kid , but his eating habits have even gotten better through this whole process . But she'll fix some meat or we'll have sweet potatoes or something like that , and so we kind of cover everybody's meal plans there .
Speaker 2Yeah , I keep forgetting about sweet potatoes . For crying out loud .
Speaker 1Oh they are . Yeah , they're really good for you and I like them . I really like them .
Speaker 2Yeah , I love those . In fact , you know all my kids and everybody , but my wife likes sweet potatoes , so I'm writing that down . I'm going to go to the store after this . There you go .
Speaker 1you already got a a chore at the end of the day , yeah , sweet potatoes , they're easy to fix too they are yeah , rice and beans .
Speaker 2You want to get some rice and beans ? Okay , I'm good . Now how have your numbers been ? You know , when you go back to doctors , you go like every three months yeah , well , I just graduated .
Speaker 1It's six months now oh , look at you yeah , and so there was one time last november , my , my cancer marker , my cea , went up and he was like , okay , let's do another colonoscopy , let's do a . Was it endoscope ? Yeah , and so we did that . My , so my ca marker went from three , two to five , four , and I'm supposed to be between two and four , and so we did that and everything checked out fine . I had two non-cancerous polyps and the whatever the endoscope or endoscopy .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Showed some small lesions on my liver and my pancreas and he said you know , if I would have took a biopsy , I would have hurt you more than anything . So he said I'll see you in a year . Both of them said see you in a year . And that was around Christmas . That was my Christmas gift .
Speaker 2All right .
Speaker 1To me yeah .
Speaker 2That was still a known rap .
Speaker 1Yeah , so fast forward . Um , in may I had blood work and it dropped all the way down to two , three . So uh he was . He was very happy about that , and now I'm at six months with blood work and so yeah , yeah , the numbers . And I remember Chris Warwick saying look , if the numbers go elevate , don't panic , that could be , a sign that your body's actually healing right so I didn't panic , but we used to look at . You know how you can get the numbers on the computer before you even see the doctor .
Speaker 2Like a week before well , we did that when it was 5-4 and we panicked and we came to a decision that we're not going to look at those results until the day we see the doctor yeah , I always do that after I get a scan and I and I read the stuff I look it either sounds like I'm dying or everything's perfect , and I can never figure it out .
Speaker 2And then they keep . I keep saying the word unremarkable . I said well , that it either sounds like I'm dying or everything is perfect , and I can never figure it out . And then I keep saying the word unremarkable . I say , well , that doesn't sound good but it is good in this case . Right , right , you want to be unremarkable .
Speaker 1Right , it's like you need a lawyer to read all those results and stuff . It's like wow , yeah .
Speaker 2So I just try not to read them until I go in , and then , yeah , they don't really talk much about them , so I don't , I don't understand , but anyway , as long as I pay them , right exactly yeah , so now , how'd you hear about healing strong ? Is it through chris work ?
Speaker 1it was through chris work , yeah , and . And so I must have not paid much attention to that part of his book , because here , just it last couple of months , I came across it and I opened the web page and I'm like , where have you been ? I mean , this is incredible .
Speaker 1Just incredible Just the way they put on there how to help guide people through their cancer journeys . But you know , through me and my wife's conversations , the other side of that story is the people that are living with the people with cancer , like maybe your wife , my wife . You know they have a story and a journey too , but it's completely different than ours .
Speaker 2Yeah , I haven't told my wife yet and a journey too , but it's completely different than ours .
Speaker 1Yeah , I haven't told my wife yet . Okay , she'll be surprised when you bring the sweet potatoes in , right ? Yeah , yeah . How did your wife respond ? You know what ? She was really a solid rock , because when we came out of the doctor's office , I just , in the car , I broke down , I said we're not telling nobody . And she's like , well , let's just think about this .
Speaker 2I just in the car I broke down .
Speaker 1I said we're not telling nobody . And she's like well , let's just think about this . She said if we tell nobody , how are people going to be able to pray for you ? And so she has been rock solid through this whole thing . Now that's the surface part . Now , as far as there's been some rocky moments , like I said , some of the scan results have really gotten her worked up a little bit .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's where my wife shines also . Whenever there's a crisis , she just kicks in . It's like the emotion is gone and she just does what needs to be done , like when we brought my parents up from Florida because my mom was getting dementia . My wife is my , my goodness . I couldn't believe her . I'm like how do you do this ? One time she even picked my dad up and put him in bed . Of course , he was less than 100 pounds by that time , but still and he laughed about it he's like 95 years old . She just picked him up , put him in there .
Speaker 2He snickered a little , but you know he's a world war ii vet , so doesn't necessarily like being picked up and put in bed right right but she's just a take charge person , so we need another crisis so I can see how good she is I mean it is just amazing to watch them go into action .
Speaker 1I mean I'm like , wow , I didn't deserve this , that's for sure . God sent me an angel . I know that .
Speaker 2Yeah , I just hope that gracious doesn't come her way , cause I'll probably panic .
Speaker 1So no , I don't think so . I think , you'll be good . You'll be good .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay , good , we won't have to do it . So where do you , where do you see things going now ? I think you were talking earlier that you were looking for a group , and there's no group in your area .
Speaker 1Right , right , so I would actually like to . I was talking to Maya and I'd like to , with my cousin that had the breast cancer , maybe start up a group in Lima , ohio . Um , cause , she would be , she would be awesome too , but , um , I would . I would definitely like to start a group up and just start reaching out to those people that that just need somebody to talk to .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 1I told my wife you know everything I've read with Chris Wark . We go to , we go out , we go meet couples and it's it's kind of hard to talk about , about you know , cancer in front of everybody or what I've learned , but if you get in a group that is similar to your situation , it's much easier and you can . I mean , I just want to help people really yeah , and how's your cousin doing now ?
Speaker 1she's doing great . I mean she's two years older than I , so 38 , that that was years ago . She had four young kids , wow , and my cousin that was 40 with brain cancer . He's doing great . So I guess we're telling the older generation we can kick its butt , you know .
So what you're saying is it's not a death sentence . It doesn't have to be a death sentence , let's put it that way and it's different for everybody . We've said that a million times . It's not like you just do this one thing , eat this one diet , or do this one thing and you'll be fine , because everyone has a deficiency in their being , whether it's diet Most people diet has a big part of it but whether it's unforgiveness or anxiety , stress and I never knew any of that mattered as far as physical until , of course , until I got cancer . Then I've done all this research like man . That's a huge part . Stress is a huge part . It's not just a little thing , it's a huge part of the disease that comes to your body .
Speaker 1Yes , yeah . And so , with through my journey , I felt that my faith has grown even stronger than it was before . I mean , like you said , you know , just letting go of that , that stress bitterness you may have in your life , which you know I did , you just got to let it go . Got to let it go .
Speaker 2Yeah , I can see the bitterness now in your eye . Just kidding , of course , and that was something I was going to ask , like you know , before this cancer diagnosis . You know , up until a little over a year ago , you know , life was great , right , I mean , I'm sure you had issues or problems here and there , but life seemed to be great .
Speaker 1Sure , great , right . I mean I'm sure you had issues or problems here and there , but lights seem to be great . Sure it was just . Yeah , it was uh just kind of moving along , enjoying family and yeah uh , but to me I think it , I think I think I've heard you say it , and chris work said it's just a little tap on the shoulder to uh bring it back to reality . I mean it was hard to hear , but it's actually made my life better , if that's weird to say .
Speaker 2Yeah Well , we totally understand , believe me Right .
Speaker 1Health wise , spiritually wise .
Speaker 2Yeah , priorities .
Speaker 1Priorities . I mean , you know , I remember hearing one of your podcasts . You know , every once in a while you may feel something in your stomach or it's like oh , did it come back ? Yes , and you know I'm like well , you know what , if it did , I would handle it . I mean , it's just keep living . You know , you know , like chris , work says , it's quality , not quantity .
Speaker 2So yeah , a divine touch on the shoulder or a punch in the gut , however you want to say it's a little bit of both , I guess I was about to say I got both , so yeah yeah , yeah , my mind was quite a punch because , uh and I was at disney world you probably heard that before of all places , the happiest place on earth , as they say , and they get the worst news . In fact , I came across a picture yesterday as I was going through , uh , facebook , which I never go to anymore , so I've had a lot to catch up and I saw a picture of me at the breakfast with some of the staff of the radio station and Goofy is behind me . You know one of the character breakfasts . And it was an hour later .
Speaker 2When I went up to my room from there and I got the call , I was like , oh my gosh . At that point there I thought everything was great , went upstairs and said , well , no , it's not great . Got a month or two to live , which they didn't tell me at that time , but that's what the prognosis was . So , yeah , my world changed right there . That was my . It wasn't a tap on the shoulder at that point , it was a punch in the gut , but yeah it definitely changed my life , and for the better .
Speaker 2I'm glad I don't have the cancer now . I'd rather not have it , I don't miss it at all . But yeah , like you said , my priorities have changed , the way I see things , the way I appreciate family more than anything else and other people . And yeah , of course I'm getting older . I think everyone is . If I remember correctly , I just had a birthday two days ago and I'm like , oh my goodness , it doesn't stop .
Speaker 1Well , happy birthday .
Speaker 2Yeah , not really . No , I mean , yeah , thank you , which you know , in my mind I'm still 40 , and then I look in the mirror and I'm like well , I'm not , but you know , if you have hope in Christ , it's like what do I worry about ? There's eternity to go .
Speaker 1Right , yeah , exactly , I mean , you know , and I've always told people that you know , whenever it's my time it could be cancer . It it's my time it could be cancer , it could be a car accident or something tomorrow , but I'm ready , I'm prepared to you know for that to happen . It's just that our loved ones around us would miss us so much that yeah , I hope they do yeah .
It's funny you said birthday what my brother started doing after his 50th birthday he started counting backwards .
Speaker 2so yeah , yes , either way , he'll start wearing diapers . That's right , I just need that first grandkid , then I'll be more fulfilled .
Speaker 1There you go yeah .
Speaker 2You've already got that at your young age .
Speaker 1Oh , I'm telling you what they are just . Oh , they're a joy . I'm telling you , they are just wonderful .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah , let me write that down .
Speaker 1That way you can tell your kids yeah . I hear that they're wonderful . There you go .
Speaker 2Great , let's see some action here .
Speaker 1I want some kids there you go .
Speaker 2So you're going to start this group Now , I can tell you , because I had the same thing , as you probably know . I thought , oh , there's got to be a group in Greenville , south Carolina . It's a very healthy place and of course there wasn't one that I felt obligated . So I started one , which we just met last night , and I am no leader and I don't . I mean , I enjoy the group , don't get me wrong , but I feel like , you know , everybody in the room knows more than I do . They're doing all this research and they're coming up with stuff and I'm like who's that I'm supposed to be the leader ? Settle down everybody . But it's great and you know , all I do is I play those videos that are the curriculum , which is filled with all kinds of stuff , and then there's all kinds of other videos to watch there , and then there's different guests I can bring in both , you know , in person or over the internet .
Speaker 2Or if you're a natural leader , you can do . You know a whole lot more than what I'm doing . I'm waiting for somebody to step up , but they haven't done it yet . I'm getting closer . I think somebody looks like they might be able to step up , but until then I'm going to be obedient to God .
Speaker 1There you go .
Speaker 2And do that because you know he uses the week . So I'm right there .
Speaker 1Yeah , there you go . But you know it's nice with those groups . Like you said , people bring different information , different things to the meetings and that's what makes a meeting go . I mean , when you're running those meetings you're just there to kind of oversee it . I mean when you're running those meetings you're just there to kind of oversee it . And everybody else helps out , you know , with information for people to learn and , you know , find their own journey to go .
Speaker 2And I have the code to get in the building , so that's also .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's why you're there . Yeah , that's .
Speaker 2Exactly when do you see things going from here ? Obviously starting a group , and you feel like you got to give back , which that definitely is one way of doing that but just pretty much spreading your story and they have the Ridge Project , and so I met Ron years ago in prison , but I was a staff member and he was an inmate and he did 14 years in prison and he was innocent . Wow .
Speaker 1Yeah . So what they do is they go into the correctional facilities and help out with men and women becoming better parents , fathers , mothers , husbands , wives . Their program is just incredible . So I have went back into the correctional facilities telling a little bit about my story . But I'm telling you their story is just . It's filled with friendship , faithfulness , fortitude and forgiveness . I mean it's .
Speaker 2Wow , that's huge .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , it's , it's an incredible story . And so , yeah , going out telling my story , just trying to find places to where where I can help out and I think God already does that my wife had a big event this past weekend and we were helping the older people , I like to say , with golf carts , transporting them , and this lady got in my golf cart and she says , oh , can you take me over there and get a cup of coffee ? I said , sure , we'll go over there . So I took her over and she went in and got a cup of coffee . I said , sure , we'll go over there . So I took her over and she went in and got a cup of coffee . And she came out and on the way back she was telling me how her husband had just passed away six weeks ago , and so she started crying . I'm like , oh , I'm so sorry to hear that . And when she got out I said , but you know , he's here with us , right .
Speaker 1And she just shook her head and she just kind of walked away . I never got her name or anything , but God puts us in those positions to be there to help people .
Speaker 2It's not necessarily the big things , it's the little things that make the difference .
Speaker 1Right , yeah , most definitely yeah .
Speaker 2Obviously , if people want to get a hold of you pretty soon , they can just go to HealingStrstrongorg and look up the groups in Ohio and you'll be there Until then . Is there a way people can get a hold of you if they have any questions or want to talk to you ?
Speaker 1I've got my email , which is jimamytabler at yahoocom .
Speaker 2That's simple enough . It's table with an R at the end right .
Speaker 1That's right . Table with an R .
Speaker 2Jim and Amy , or just Jim Amy Taylor .
Speaker 3Yes .
Speaker 2Okay and we're looking forward to hearing about your group what happens . It was great hearing your story . You got anything else you want to share for people who maybe just got a diagnosis and they're like scared to death right now Because you know you and I both know that feeling .
Speaker 1Yeah , like scared to death right now , because you know , you and I both know that feeling . Yeah , first of all , I just want to say thank you for the interview . I really appreciate this and I would say just take a deep breath and , if you can reach out to people that have already been through this , because they are a wealth of knowledge physically , spiritually , mentally and just before you make any decisions . I was almost like Chris Wark . I wish I would have tried to shrink my tumor before getting the surgery . But it's your life . Don't let anybody push you into anything . It's your choice . You have the choice of picking what doctors you want as far as how you want to deal with your cancer situation or your illness , and just take time and patience and really search with prayer , search and just listen to God .
Speaker 2All right , good advice . Well , jim , thank you very much .
Speaker 1Well , thank you , Jim .
Speaker 2All right , see you , jim .
Speaker 3All right , jim , you've been listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast . A part of the Healing Strong organization
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