I encourage all of you , no matter if you think that you know everything is great in your life . You had a happy childhood . You know your kids love you , your parents loved you , your spouse loves you . We're humans and we live in this world , and so we all have a backpack of stuff , right , and so we need to get the stuff out of the backpack , and then the healing happens in not a linear fashion , but it happens in a quantum fashion , like leaps and bounds of healing .
Speaker 2You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast , a part of the Healing Strong organization , the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world . Each week we bring you stories of hope , real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health . Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver , jim Mann .
Speaker 3Dr Tony from Hope for Cancer . So good to have you along with us . I believe this is the third time you've been on our episode , so you did something good the last two times .
Speaker 1Thank you so much , jim . It's my gift to be on the Healing Strong platform because it's a very important group of people that are helping and giving hope to many . So we had a small prayer before we went on live and Jim prayed about hope and about what's happening and how it's needed now in the world of cancer level journal , the Lancet just published this year , in 2024 , recently , and it's titled Cancer is on the Rise in Young Adults More Than Ever . So why more than ever ? Right , we've been in this quest to find better options in cancer besides chemotherapy , radiation and surgery and immunotherapy , and they talk about in this publication that between 1990 and 2019 , the cases of cancer in young people across the world increased by 79% and deaths rose . The death rate rose by 28% . This is just unheard of .
Speaker 1And where is all this creature going ? 17 cancers that are on the rise for young adults , and you name them colorectal cancer , gallbladder , kidney , pancreas , stomach , leukemia , breast cancer . You know , the list goes on and on . And this is exactly , jim and everyone at Haley's Journal , what we are seeing now at Hope for Cancer Younger patients with cancer . Then we have all those statistics Younger patients with cancer , more aggressive cancers and patients that were in remission , coming out of remission , and so there's something obviously contributing to this , and there are many thoughts , of course , jim , on this , whether it's related to the COVID pandemic , environmental pollution , toxicities , you know , the water quality and so forth , and that's all of it . It's all of it that is participating in these findings .
Speaker 3Yeah , I would imagine you know there's so many more toxins that are out there obviously contributing to that . And of course , the cell phone . I mean , I'm sure there's a rise in brain cancer because of the cell phone when you put that up against your head . Yeah , we don't really know down the road how that will affect things , because that's still a fairly new thing . And then the AirPods that so many people have . They live . One of my kids lives with those in his ears . I keep telling him . I say you don't need to do that , get something with wires . I finally convinced him to at least just put the headphones with wires on them . I said it's not as cool looking but it'll be very cool down the road , much more than the other ones .
Speaker 1Yeah , definitely EMF toxicity is a big player here and especially , as you mentioned , young children and young adults . When their brain is still developing , they're more susceptible to mutations and things going wrong . So definitely what we found and others have confirmed this in studies is that the three main toxicities now number one is aluminum , number two is glyphosate , and that's the Roundup Monsanto , and then number three is exactly what you're talking about , Jim is EMF electromagnetic field radiation . So if we start off with detoxing and eliminating those three major toxicities that we're exposed to , it will give us a head start right . And going back to this Lancet publication , it says suspected causes . This is a peer-reviewed conventional journal saying suspected causes of this higher incidence of cancer in young adults , increased rates of obesity , dietary habits , and here it is environmental toxins , chemicals that were introduced in the 50s and 60s , and then the fourth one that they mentioned is early life exposures to cancer causing substances right Even from the mom to the child .
Speaker 1So the good thing is that these are things that we can be proactive about and we should live a life of detoxification is what I always say .
Speaker 1We should detox every day , and I'm not the best example , but I do my best and every morning I start off with a prayer and I thank the Lord for another day , and then one of the first things I do in the morning is to do a coffee enema , because the liver is the biggest organ of detoxification after the skin . So it is said that if the liver is challenged , the whole body is challenged , right ? So I like to start off with a coffee enema . I add filigit . Filigit is a resin that comes from the Himalayas , the high mountain altitude area , and it's basically humic acid and folic acid , and this is a binder , also to help get rid of toxins , and for me , it even gives me energy . Right , I feel better cognitive health and feel like , wow , now let's go . Let's go . Whatever hits me this day . You know , I'm in a better situation to to take it straight on right now I'm drinking my dandelion root tea .
Speaker 3That helped me to detox amen to that .
Speaker 1I'll cheer you on now because I have some tea is here as well look at us , we're so healthy , yeah .
Speaker 3But I do have a question , like obviously in this world it's going to be worse and worse , the uh , the emfs . I mean it's hard to avoid that because I mean towers are going up everywhere , and what kind of prevention ? Or obviously we can't totally get away from it , but what can we do to kind of get around that ?
Speaker 1Yeah , there's some things we can definitely do and they don't cost us much , and it just costs us to be proactive and make those decisions and , as you said , teaching our children right , simple things that are very powerful , like removing or distancing ourselves from radiation , emf , 5g , wi-fi as much as possible . So one thing is shut off your wi-fi at night . You're not going to be checking your emails when you're asleep , so you don't need wi-fi . Shut that off . Get a grounding sheet or grounding pillowcase and ground yourself . Don't charge your cell phone on your night table . That cell phone should be at least 10 , 15 feet away from your bed , preferably more . Put it in the bathroom , put it in your office or somewhere away in the kitchen from your bedroom and get a good night's sleep , because from 10 pm to 2 am is when the body restores , regenerates , repairs and heals , and so prepare yourself for a good night's sleep , and that has to do a lot with light exposure and dirty electricity and all this .
Speaker 1The other thing is going to nature right , being in nature , being outdoor as much as possible , and , of course , nutrition . The closer we are to the garden , god's creation , the healthier it is . There's a lot of foods that are detoxing in nature . Juicing is a big deal , right , because juicing is the best way to detox the blood , for example . And so a lot that we could do with nutrition , with preventing close exposures to these electromagnetic fields , and also detoxing doing liver gallbladder cleanses every few months , doing a parasite cleanse , because when there's an environment in the body that favors cancer , you first have EMFs , you have heavy metal , you have parasites , and so we need to not create that favorable environment for cancer to thrive or to develop in the first place .
Speaker 1So , yeah , a lot of things we could do . Hydration , of course , right , jim , so important . Half of your body weight in ounces tends to be the rule of thumb for hydration . Make it clean , filtered water . If you want to go a bit higher with that , then hydrogen water is what I recommend , because the most abundant element in the universe and every biochemical reaction in the body requires hydrogen , and at the cell level it has been shown that hydrogen stores can be a bit low or depleted . So hydrogen water is another key component for health and detoxing and also decreasing the effects of this electromagnetic field of radiation .
Speaker 3Okay , and I was mentioning to you before we started recording that I don't know how many episodes we've done 110 , 120 , somewhere around there but I hear , of course . I hear about Chris Wark and Chris B Cancer and his square one , and then I always hear about Hope for Cancer which , in case you know , maybe someone's listening to this episode . As the first one , we are talking to Dr Tony , who is the founder and chief medical officer at the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers , which are in Mexico . There's two locations still right .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , one in Tijuana , mexico , south of San Diego , california , that we opened in the year 2000 . And then the Cancun Center we opened in the year 2015 . So , as you can see , we've been around for a long time . I personally have over 30 years in the integrative cancer field .
Speaker 3Is there ever a time that you should use chemo ? I mean , obviously there's such a bigger world to healing , but is there ever a time to use chemo ?
Speaker 1The answer is yes . We are one of my seven key principles that form the foundation of our therapy at Hope for Cancer . The first one is non-toxic cancer therapy . But that being said , jim , and everyone listening is sometimes we have to give what we call IPT , insulin potentiation therapy , which is lower dose chemotherapy , very effective , much less harsh on the body . Patients are not lying around in bed sick and vomiting and diarrhea and so forth , and because they come with so much tumor burden , just a lot of cancer . And so you , especially those patients that have not received chemo before , they may have and oftentimes have a very good response , not , jim , as a means to an end but as part to debulk , to decrease tumor load , while we're following all the seven key principles right . So there is time when chemo is needed , we prefer to do it in a low-dose fashion . Time when chemo is needed , we prefer to do it in a low-dose fashion . There is time when radiation is needed .
Speaker 1We had a patient recently that had metastasis from a breast cancer to her lower back and the pain was excruciating . So what is better to put her on high-pain medication that may include narcotics like morphine and opioids , or to give her five to seven spot radiation sessions to that affected back area . Well , obviously , the radiation which is targeted , we call it spot radiation . Five to seven sessions , and guess what ? Her pain was 95% better and she didn't need to take any morphine , which suppresses the immune system and suppresses healing .
Speaker 1So there are times , jim , when radiation has also an indication and , of course , surgery , the third part of all this right . If someone has an occlusion or an obstruction , we need to remove that obstruction surgically . Oftentimes patients that have liver metastasis also have bile duct obstruction . So in that case our surgeon places a stent , which is a little catheter , to open up that compressed or collapsed bile duct , and so you put that stent in in a minimally invasive procedure and then the bile starts to flow , the yellowness goes away , the itching goes away and then you have time to continue with the treatment plan . So it's truly how and when , using our wisdom and our experience and the patient's feedback , when to utilize these toxic therapies Of course the problem is that so much of the medical community , that's all their training .
Speaker 3So it's like , hey , you got cancer , let's bring out the chemo radiation and if they can survive that then they don't change anything else . And of course usually eventually they don't survive it because the cancer is not gone , it comes back . So the good thing about hope for cancer , first of all , the good thing is , the first word in there is hope , because we all need the hope . If we don't have hope , your body is just chances of it . Recovering is not that good . If your mentality is , I have no hope . But when you come to your place and you do and I know we've touched on several of them already , but the seven key principles of cancer therapy , well , why don't we just touch on each one of those briefly ?
Speaker 1Well , I'll start with what I considered the most . They're all key principles , right , but one of them always stands out and also , because it's oftentimes not addressed in the best of cancer hospitals in the world and I'm talking about even integrative alternative cancer hospitals For sure , it's not addressed in the conventional hospital setting , but that's the emotional , spiritual health , and this is so , so important . As a matter of fact , my second book that will be published and released in March of 2025 , just a short few months away is called Emotions and Cancer , and the reason I'm writing that as my second book is because I have seen in my 30 plus years of experience in oncology that unless we really go to the root causes from an emotional , spiritual perspective , root causes from an emotional , spiritual perspective , it's going to be tough for the physical body to heal , and I believe we heal from the spiritual , emotional , mental and then the physical body . And so that is a very , very key principle , and I encourage all of you , no matter if you think that everything is great in your life . You had a happy childhood , you know your kids love you , your parents loved you , your spouse loves you , neighbors , we're Hebrews and we live in this world , and so we all have a backpack of stuff right , and so we need to get the stuff out of the backpack and then the healing happens in not a linear fashion , but it happens in a quantum fashion , like leaps and bounds of healing . So I encourage all the listeners and viewers to focus on that emotional , spiritual , health and recovery and releasing these conflicts and traumas . We call it the BEST program , b-e-s-t , and that stands for behavioral , emotional and spiritual transformation , and that's really what it is , because when you do the releasing and you do this work and the letting go , transformation happens at many levels , including the physical body , at many levels , including the physical body . So , if I go on with the other ones I mentioned non-toxic cancer therapies , the emotional , spiritual the other one is the microbiome and oftentimes we think about the gut , right , but the gut-brain connection , but the microbiome of the whole body , the microbiome of our skin , the dental or a microbiome that's a big one , because we cannot heal when we have toxicity in our mouth and root canals and metal fillings and so forth . The other toxicity that we need to oftentimes you know it's not addresses emotional toxicity .
I often , oftentimes say that a negative thought can kill you faster than a bad germ . So let's turn those negative thoughts to positive thoughts , to optimism . It doesn't matter what your oncologist told you with respect to , oh , you know , you have six months to live . At best , if you do this chemo and so forth , you could have two years to five years . Well , who can say that ? Right , and you mentioned the word hope several times , jim , and no one can take your hope away but yourself , right ? Don't let anyone in . Hope is a gift that we receive from our Creator , and so God has given us that hope , and so don't allow anyone to take that hope away from you . So that's very important . Obviously , the microbiome . And then the next key principle is detoxification . I mentioned that we need to live a life of detoxification .
Speaker 1And the next key principle is nutrition , and that's often one that you know it's a lot of confusion . That will be a whole show on nutrition , right ? But you mentioned Chris Wark in his square one . A lot to be said about his information there with nutrition . I want to leave you with one thought , however . Uh , chris , and I agree that we should be plant-based , right ? Uh , and that's , we call it the garden food plan at hope for cancer . The closer we are to the garden , the better it is , but make sure your nutrition is personalized for you , right ? So work for Chris or work for Dr Tony or someone else . That doesn't mean that's exactly your nutrition plan . Broccoli may not be good for you , jim , even though there's 20 studies or 30 studies on broccoli and its benefit , but it might not be good for you . So the key point here is make nutrition personalized and individualized for yourself .
Speaker 1And then the next key principle is oxygenation , and oftentimes we are low , shallow breathers . We take a deep breath and it feels uncomfortable . So anything that you could do with oxygenation is key to health and recovery and healing . And just get out 10 minutes a day . Don't give me a marathon every week . Just give me 10 , 15 minutes a day or every other day . Do some flexibility . Do some lightweight , resistant workouts and the aerobic with walking and then stretching flexibility . If you could do those three things and there's no reason you can't this is a great investment for your health . The amount of muscle mass that one has is directly proportional to our lifespan , meaning the greater muscle mass and I'm not talking about being like Arnold Schwarzenegger , I'm just talking about fat versus muscle mass , right ? So the more muscle mass we have , the healthier we will live and the luckier we will live , the better cognitive health we will have , meaning the pain will work better , right . So oxygenation is key .
Speaker 1And then the last one that I want to talk about is the immune .
Speaker 1We call it immunomodulation . That's key principle number seven . And to that aspect I just want to mention briefly that at Hope for Cancer we just rolled out our next bestest I don't know if bestest is a word , but our next and bestest bioimmunotherapy . This is a biological , non-toxic immunotherapy that is comprised of five substances or five different products , all coming together to have tremendous benefit for both the quick acting immune system and the long-term immune system . So these five products four are oral , three are capsules , one is liquid and then the fit product is injectable , so it's done under the skin like an insulin shot twice a week . Twice a week , and we like that to be for about three months .
Speaker 1But this is a very important bioimmunotherapy that we just rolled out Took years in the makings and a lot of work and research . We're calling it , jim and everyone , davida D-A and then Vida V , as in Victor I-D-A , and the reason I came up with that name is in Spanish or Latin , davida means to give life , and so this is giving life to the immune system , and the immune system is very complex . So we believe that with this DaVida bioimmunotherapy , which is non-toxic , we're really upregulating the immune system at multiple , many levels and it is safe , effective and non-toxic with respect to the immune system . So we're really excited about the DaVita bioimmunotherapy as our latest offering in our efforts always to bring the best of the best to our patients .
I don't know if you remember or not , but I went through immunotherapy for my stage four melanoma , but it was Opdivo , which . How does that compare to something like that ? I mean , obviously that's not obvious in anything because I'm not good with the medical world , but is that more toxic because it's a chemical , or what's the story there ?
Speaker 1Yeah , that's a good thought and question , jim . This is why we call these bio-immunotherapies , versus the toxic immunotherapies that you refer to , like the Abdevos , the Gervois , the Keytruda and these conventional immunotherapies . They target , jim , a specific receptor on the cancer cells . So when you had melanoma with the Abdevo , those melanoma cells needed to have a specific receptor on the cell membrane so that the abdevo could go in there like a locking key and affect the tumor . But if some of those melanoma cells because they're never always the same if they didn't have those same receptors , the abdevo was not going to do anything right Because it's based on the receptors .
Speaker 1With any of those Keytruda , abdevo , gervoy or other immunotherapies when we talk about the Vita , for example , being a biological immunotherapy we're upregulating your own immune system , your God-given immune system , independently of these receptors and thereby upregulating your immune system so that your immune system could attack the cancer and have a favorable response without toxic side effects . So think about it like this how many children do you have , jim , if I can ask Four , four , four , okay . Same dad ? Yep , yes , same mom ? Yes , are those four children the same ? Do they look alike ? Do they behave alike ? Do they think alike ?
Speaker 3I keep thinking they're adopted . But yeah , they're all different .
Speaker 1Definitely they're all different , so they're all different . So let's say a cancer originates in the breast and it metastasizes , let's say , to the liver or to the lung , or even within the breast there's multiple tumors , right , all those kids are not the same , like your four kids are not the same . They came from the same mom and dad . My six kids are not the same , like your four kids are not the same . That came from the same mom and dad . My six kids are not the same and so the cancer cells are not the same . So when you give to answer your question when you give those Abdevo and Dervoid and those immunotherapies , it might hit one of the kids because he or she has that receptor , but they're all different kids . So you were blessed that I don't know the full story , but Abdevo helped you a lot and of course I know there was many other things , but because Abdevo is not going to cure any cancer , there was a combination of many other things .
Speaker 3Yes , yeah , I had like eight tumors , I think it was throughout my body and they all shrunk within the first two months of this and I had very few side effects . So I think I'm very fortunate . Yes , because I know some people have some crazy side effects or some of them . I know one friend his tumors doubled and that's not a good thing .
Speaker 1That's not a good thing . Yes , yes , so yeah we're blessed and we're happy for those results , but you said that they shrunk . What happened ? Now I'm asking you questions . What happened after the tumors shrunk ?
Speaker 3Well , I've had a few scans past that and you know , and there's a few of them where the tumors were there's just a little mark on there . They said they assume that's just scar tissue , okay , and in fact , coming up in a couple of months , they want me to do an MRI . We're going to do one last scan , we're going to do an MRI and then , if it's the way we think it is , we'll just close the books on you . So I guess they're going to put me to sleep or something .
Speaker 1And you should follow the seven key principles . You should continue drinking your dandelion tea , you should continue with the good nutrition , all the things you know . And I would recommend or suggest to you , jim , that you consider asking your doctor about a test called a Signaterra Signaterra I'm not sure if they've done that yet . It's S-I-G-N-A-T-E-R-R-A Signaterra . It might have one R , but it's signetera , and this is to look for circulating tumor cells . These are the cells that left the tumors and now they're circulating in the bloodstream . So the MRI might be negative and Lord willing it is and it will be negative . No tumors found in the MRI . But what if there are some circulating tumor cells that can be circulating for a year , two years , three years , five years and then show up somewhere ? So with the Signatera test , which is a test done in the US , they could check for any circulating tumor cells and that will give you another data point which will give you a peace of mind right as to the risk of a recurrence or this thing being found somewhere at some point .
Speaker 3Okay , yeah , I'll definitely do that . I have a good doctor . He actually he's against using chemo , but he doesn't have to . He's into like the latest immunotherapies I mean , they're all developing , of course , and he talks over my head so I'm not sure what he's talking about but he does know the importance of nutrition and exercise and mindset . So , yeah , he sees the big picture , so I'm kind of excited about that . But , yeah , he sees the big picture , so I'm kind of excited about that . But , yeah , definitely check that out .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's awesome and he was very wise . Obviously he knows that melanoma does not respond to chemotherapy , right ? This is where immunotherapy is the first line of therapy and a lot of work was done , even with viruses , in melanoma , and that's a whole different story . But yeah , melanoma has its peculiarities that chemo is not indicated .
Speaker 3Okay , I feel like you need to send me a bill , but I won't give you my address . Well , dr Tony , what's coming down the road for you other than the book that's coming out in March ?
Speaker 1I want to say we are opening , as of now , a wellness program , and so this is to be ahead of it , right where patients that are presumably healthy , they've had blood tests by their conventional doctors , they've had , you know , x-rays and ultrasound thyroid test , prostate check . But let's be more proactive on wellness . So we're very happy we have some great wellness diagnostic or assessment tools that go beyond blood testing , and there's many reasons for that . That's a long topic , uh , but yeah , good assessment sooner , quicker , finding potential dysfunctions in the body before they present themselves as a tumor , for example . Right , it's so important . So , really excited about the wellness program . I have participated myself in the wellness program , so I encourage the listeners , the viewers , to give yourself that gift , whether now , in the rest of 2024 or coming in 2025 , to consider the Hope for Cancer Wellness , medical Wellness Program .
Speaker 3Okay , and all that information , of course , is the hopeforcancercom , that's the hope and the number for cancercom . Well , dr Tony , it's always a pleasure talking to you . You actually talk on my level , so I appreciate that .
Speaker 1Well , you know , I'm a simple guy from a small village . I have to understand myself as well . So we're on the same page , thank you .
Speaker 3All right , well , thank you so much for taking the time to do this .
Speaker 1Blessings to you , Jim , and to the Healing Strong family . We love you and blessings .
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