Honey is, its in its entirety, is very unique. The way that your body processes it, it doesn't go through your GI tract, it actually goes through your bloodstream. And so if you're a diabetic, you can just put it on your gums and it'll instantly, start to take you out of a diabetic shock. It's naturally antibiotic.

It's naturally antifungal. It never spoils, never goes bad. And so it's got medicinal purposes and values contains pollen. You ingest pollen. Your the pollen naturally produces histamine that coats the nerve receptors in your nose and ears and eye passages, and it's one of the only foods that has both carbohydrate.

It is the only food that is natural that has both carbohydrate and a protein in it. You can literally survive on honey because it has both of those, components in it. You are listening to the I Am Healing Strong Podcast, a part of the Healing Strong Organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world.

[00:01:00] Each week, we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey. To help. Now here's your host, stage four cancer. Thriver. Jim Mann talking to somebody that's on, one of my bottles in the kitchen. I'm talking about honey. His name's not honey.

His name is Nate Sheets, but his face is on my honey bottle. What's up with that? How you doing Nate? Man, I am great. How are you today, sir? Great. Do we go, you go by Nate or Nathan or does it matter? Either one. Nah, I go by either We've got, Nate's honey, we've got Nate, she's running for Ag Commissioner and then, lots of people call me Nathan or Nate, alright. Alright, I'll call you Nate because it's on my bottle. Yes, sir. So yeah, I was just listening, to an interview you had with, with Kay Blackburn, who's the chairman of the board for Healing Strong. So I know all about you, I know everything about you. How did you, know Kay's sister?

They're very close friends [00:02:00] of ours, we homeschooled and they homeschooled. And our kids were raised together. They're, so it'd be Kay's nephews. They're the same age as my older boys. And then we all did scouts together. And so just, we've been friends for, well over 25 years.

And so just met Kay, through her sister Kathy. Okay. Just all doing life together. Yes, sir. And that's in, was that in Arizona? No, we live in, in Dallas. And Kay's sister lives here in Dallas also. Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah, I got it. 'cause she lives, because I think Kay lives in Arizona. Yes.

I think she does. If remember correctly. Yes, sir. Yes. My, my memory's getting worse every day, so ever since high school I just haven't used it. Anyway, is that how you know about Healing Strong through Kay Uhhuh, or through her sister, just to have, a sideline seat to watch, just her own struggle with cancer and just the remarkable, turn of events by her, radically.

Altering how she changed her diet and so really, especially being in the honey world and in the food space and, we just [00:03:00] became more aware of just her story. And I talked with her a number of times and this was before she ever had an involvement with Healing Strong. And so when she went over and started, partnering with Healing Strong Man, it just made total sense.

Yeah, there's some details that I didn't get in, in the interview I was listening to with Kay. And I'm nosy. You talked about meeting your wife in college, was that right? Right after college, yes, sir. Yeah. Okay. What college did you go to? I went to Texas State, which is in San Marco, Texas.

The, she went to Liberty University. So she had moved to Dallas after she got out of, Liberty and, we were both at the same church and, met her in a sand volleyball court on a on tax day, actually April 15th. Yeah. I take it by the smile that it was a good day for you. It was she, she thought I was irresponsible because I told her, I said, Hey, I've gotta go, I've gotta go get my taxes and put 'em in the, put 'em in the mailbox before midnight.

She was thinking, why did this guy not file taxes a lot sooner? [00:04:00] But, but that's been a bit of our theme in life. Yes, I totally relate to you. We phone extension every year, so yeah, we totally get that one. But, what was your major? So studied, marketing and, in college. And my brother and I had started a pen and pencil company, while I was in college.

We did created mood pens and mood pencils. And so just was a serial entrepreneur, even while in college. And my roommates owned a restaurant in downtown Austin and was involved with them trying to help run that. And so I just have always kinda had this entrepreneurial bent.

Yeah. Is that something that runs in the family or your parents were like that or? No, actually, my dad was an Air Force colonel and he grew up as a sharecropper in Nebraska, in Kansas. And so he went to the Air Force Academy second graduating class, and my mom, her dad was a band director. So I grew up my whole life on Air Force bases and, my dad, being in the Air Force and retired [00:05:00] colonel then went to go work for, Lockheed in nasa.

And he was just very, non entrepreneurial. He was an engineer, aerospace engineer by training and background. My mom, played the flute and, in college. But, my, we've got four of us kids. My two sisters are both accountants, finance. Very disciplined, very in the box. And my brother and I are both, very, gregarious, charismatic entrepreneurs.

And so it's funny how, families wind up developing over time. Yeah, that's always interest to me. 'cause like nobody in my family, I got a very large family, cousins, aunts and uncles, and of course my parents, but nobody was an entrepreneur. Then, when I was a senior high school, my friend asked me to come, help him clean a building, as a janitor, great job.

Then I'm thinking, wow, there's someone who checks on me. Then there's somebody who he answers to, and then there's another person they answer to out in California, and I'm in Baltimore doing this, and I was like, wait [00:06:00] a minute. I'm doing all the work and everybody above me is making more money. Why aren't I just doing this for the building itself?

Of course, I wasn't gonna undercut them, but I thought, Hey, I can go get my own accounts and which is what I did. I thought, wow, this is so out of the box for me and my family. It just made sense. I've never seen the success that you have come across in business, but still there's something in me that is it just doesn't make sense to be the person doing all the work when, God's given us all the ability to do that.

My wife's the same way. She can't work for somebody else. She has to work on her own. 'cause she does everything better than any boss she's ever had. So I know it's crazy the things that I've done throughout my lifetime. I always say that I've got Nathan's ideas and those were in a box, in my closet and they didn't ever work.

And then they were God's ideas and Right. As I look back now, I'm 56 years old and I look back throughout my life. The things that. Quote unquote would be considered [00:07:00] successful. I never really intended. I went, I bought a beehive as a hobby in 1996 after Patty and I got married.

And then that same year I went on a mission trip to Venezuela. And and both of those decisions, one led into 12 years of full-time Christian ministry and the other led into 30 years in creating the largest honey company in America. And but it was never like I. They had this grand vision of going out and starting a honey company or this grand vision of going into ministry and developing.

I'm second in Avan Cube, just, I, one of my life verses is Ephesians two 10 that says that God CS his workmanship in Christ Jesus for good works, he established beforehand that we should walk in them. And so to me, life is almost like an Easter egg hunt trying to discover, alright, Lord, is this what you have for me?

Is this what you have for me? And cuing through the things that are. About Nathan and trying to find things that are about the Lord. Yeah that's what something I noticed about your story when I was listening to it, that you didn't buy a, like you said, you didn't buy a beehive thinking, I'm gonna conquer the [00:08:00] world with honey.

You just thought, Hey, this seems interesting, and I believe God led you that way, obviously, but you just did it as a fun hobby and then. You allowed God to work through you. You didn't get in the way. Some so often we get in the way thinking, okay, I'm gonna make something really big out of this so you know I'm gonna do this and God, please bless it.

But instead you allowed God to work through something that you weren't even. Planning on that happening. And then it just took off and there's so much you can do with that. And I do wanna talk about honey later on too, about the value of honey 'cause it's such a healthy food. And also the other part was, wanted to be in the ministry, which I was calling the ministry myself, but I never knew what it was gonna be.

And I just stumbled into radio, which is what I've done, for 30 some years in the Christian radio. But it wasn't like, Hey, when I grew up I'm gonna be in radio and just, change the world. But instead I just stumbled into it. And God has used me in so many ways that I didn't even realize until I look back at it, and I [00:09:00] hear people talk about it.

To me, it makes more sense when you look back and see, I didn't do any of this. God did it all, and I just happened to be there. And he took me along for the ride. Is that how you feel? Absolutely. Life is about really just trying to, try to see, the old Henry Blackaby, yeah.

He had that book Discovering God and, look for where God's at work and go and join him. Yes. And I don't think that I even realized that God was at work there as much as I was just trying to do it to the best of my ability. Be faithful. I did the honey company for.

A decade and never really made any money. I just kept being faithful, in it. And then when I went into ministry full time, I never planned to go to ministry. I went on a mission trip to Venezuela after I was terrified. I had taken a, a class called the Evangelism Explosion that teaches people how to go out and go share the gospel.

Yes. And I had, led the first person to the Lord. I never led to the Lord. I was in the advertising agency business and shared the gospel with this [00:10:00] 65-year-old guy at lunch, who was one of my advertising clients. And, I'm sure I butchered the gospel because I was about. Six, eight weeks into the 16 week course.

And I come to the end of this gospel presentation and I look at Jim and I said, you wouldn't wanna ask Jesus into your heart, would you? A great assumptive close? And he said, yeah, I would. And I was so blown away. And this to see the Lord allow me to be a part of seeing someone come to faith in Christ.

And so I committed to be a trainer, in the next session. And I realized on Sunday afternoon when we got to that class, tonight when we go out and go do evangelism, I'm the guy front and center in front of that door. I started freaking out. I started breaking out into sweat and so I went to that class and I met the guy and the girl in on my team.

And I said, Hey, it's the first night. Let's just get to know each other tonight. We'll go out next Sunday. That was fine. The next Sunday, mayor came that stress and sweat again, and I go to the class and I said to the guy and the girl, I said, Hey, let's role play tonight. We'll go out next Sunday.

And I'll [00:11:00] never forget, this guy goes, I thought we were supposed to have evangelism. I said, I'll get there bro. Lay off me. So literally the next morning I'm in my office on my knees with my Bible open and I'm just crying out to the Lord and I said, God, you've got to help me get over this fear about doing door-to-door of evangelism.

And it was louder or audible. I mean it's, God just said, go on a mission trip. And I had remembered that Patty and I had supported a couple missionaries on staff with this ministry now called E three Partners. And I read this guy's newsletter. He's gonna Columbia two weeks. So I got up. Called him and said, Hey, I feel like God wants me to go on a mission trip.

I wanna go with you. And he said my trip got canceled, but this other guy, Mike Downey, he'll, he's going to Venezuela on Friday. This Monday I want passport shots, money, nothing. But four days later, I'm outside of Crock as Venezuela. Having no idea what this organization does and all that they do. Door to door of evangelism and planning a church.

And it's it. You see even these, I got involved in that evangelism class 'cause I [00:12:00] wanted to learn how to share the gospel and I was new to Dallas and. Didn't have a lot of friends, and so I thought it'd be a good way to meet people also. And yet that just that little step of faith, in wanting to see the Lord work in your life, takes those little things.

He takes the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, right? And so I just see his hand in that process. Yeah, it's kinda like the Moses Syndrome, isn't it? Oh, I'm not good enough for this guy. I'd move on to somebody who's good at this. And, it's when you feel like it's totally out of your wheelhouse, that's when you know you're in the right place.

Yeah. God wants us desperate, independent upon him. And my prayer throughout my, as I've gotten older in life is, Lord, help me learn how to be desperate for you and not being in desperate circumstances. Because I think too many times as I look back, it's I'm getting my very wits end.

I have no other, I'm at the end of the road. It's okay, God, where are you? And I don't have to always make that, the requirement for [00:13:00] being. Passionate about wanting the Lord to be involved and being charged. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise it's so simple for us to get in the way and do things on our own when we really need to just be holding onto him, onto his coattail, so to speak.

And that's when things happen. I've just recently looked back, I've always played bass guitar, and I've always thought I'm just an average player. No big deal. But because of that, when I came to college, the best group on that university was the southeastern University down in Florida.

They lost their bass player and they just happened to be helping me bring my bass into my room. They go, Hey, you wanna try out? I'm like, oh my goodness. I'm gonna make a fool of myself. I can't do this. But I couldn't get out of it. So I tried out, they loved it. I became, within a month we played the fool chapel.

The whole school knew me all of a sudden. Nobody knew me before that except for the band. 'cause I'm just kinda a quiet person. I. Then from there, another band heard me and they asked me to play for them, and it [00:14:00] just opened up the door for me. And I'm like, I'm just an average bass player and I have terrible stage presence.

I'm up there like bump on the log. I'm not all over the place like they want you to be but yet he's used that pretty much my whole life. Putting me, where I normally wouldn't be. We've been around the world, and it's, I'm like, all because I decided to play bass one time and I stuck with it.

Never thought I was any, any good other than average and you can use anything. And it's, I don't see that. Or usually people don't see that until you look back on your life oh, there's that thread that he used all through there. Just something simple and that's incredible. Same thing with radio, which I stumbled into also, and I look at all the things I was able to do.

Through radio and I knew I wasn't anything special. I wasn't like, Hey, I'm just a superstar radio person. No, I just thought I always had the, the imposter syndrome, which so many of us have that no matter what we're doing, if we're put in front of anybody, we thought, oh, I'm not the one for this, but.

[00:15:00] I have that all the time. I still have that. It's terrible. But that's when you know God is working and you're not getting in the way as long as you keep doing it and don't give up because you think you're not good enough. 'cause you're not by yourself. Yeah. But obviously he created you, so you're definitely good enough.

Amen. Yeah. Yeah. I I went off on a tantrum there. Yeah. Just as I've gotten older, I think. You start to notice a pattern in how God kinda works in your life. Or at least I have, and I've seen, which I identify in Exodus, that whole journey that God takes Moses through, when they're leaving, even starting at the burning bush all the way to them being up on, on, the.

Where he's getting, receiving the 10 commandments and being told about, building the tabernacle and all the implements go with it. When Moses was there at the burning bush, God said, tell the Egyptians to give you all their gold necklaces and earrings as you guys to park.

And so this is before he'd even gone back to Egypt. And so they're getting ready to leave and two more times, God tells Moses. Tell the Egyptians [00:16:00] who gave you their gold necklaces and earrings, and it says in, it says that the Israelites fleeced the Egyptian women and they were smiling and they adorned the Israelite children with the jewels and the, tapestry of the Egyptians.

I see all these little Jewish kids mulling through the desert with all that Egyptian swag on and they get outside. And. Unfortunately, the very first thing they do with that gold is they build a golden calf, which is not what God's plan was for them. No. But now God's got Moses up on Mount Sinai and he's telling them about, I want you to build the arc of the covenant and I want you to build the tabernacle and here are all the dimensions of the tabernacle, and I want you to build the efa and I want you to build the lamp stand.

And you know it just, Exodus 23, 24, 25, 26, 27. He just keeps layering on. All these things that he wants Moses to do, and I've always got this visual image. Of Moses like drooping down his head as he's starting to be overwhelmed, with the amount of details that God's giving him. And then he says in Exodus 29, [00:17:00] but don't worry, I've already sent Old Holy Am and Beel, the son of his much, and I put all the creativity and craftsmanship in their heart to accomplish what I've called you to.

I've given them the ability to carve wood and to weave with thread and to, work with metals. And and as I look back in my life, the two. Things that I have seen time and time again of affirmation of this is God more so than Nathan is he has provided the gold of the Egyptians and he has provided bezel and the Holy Ab, and he has, provided those things in such a way that is obvious that he's doing it because.

Moses wasn't out recruiting, he didn't have a headhunter looking for an artist to come in and build all that stuff. Yeah. God said he, they are already on the way, and yet God also entrusted him all of that gold, Egyptian gold that they took that gold of little, probably Egyptian gods and melted it down and that became the arc of the covenant that carried the 10 Commandments.[00:18:00]

And it's just an amazing thing to really see God's patterns of how he works in life. And, it just makes it more exciting when you see those, that pattern start to take place. Yeah. It's like he knows what he's doing or something. Let's go back to the bees. Why, what made you be interested in a beehive?

I've always loved honey my whole life. Yeah. And whenever people would travel, they'd bring me honey as a gift. And so when Patty and I met, and we got married and we lived in an apartment in Plano, Texas, and, she said, Hey, this was in 1996 when we got married. And she said, we need a hobby together.

And I was like. Okay. And back then they actually had the TV internet commercials, TV commercials about what the internet was for. And they had this at and t internet commercial with this lady in a bee suit covered up with bees. And her boys were up in this tree house looking down at their mom, and the one kid looks at the other and says, see, I told you can find anything on the internet.

And I was like, huh. I was like, [00:19:00] honey. So I went over and typed in beekeeping Dallas and up pulled this little honey company, north Dallas Honey Company. And so I called this gentleman and asked him if I could buy beehive, and he said, sure. And so I hung up and I realized, oh wait, we live in an apartment.

And so I called my mom and dad and asked him if I could put a beieve in their backyard and said, Fred, this 78-year-old, general contractor retired, had started this little honey company in 1972. He had a hundred beehives, 50 were just down the road from where I lived. So I'd go over on the weekends and I'd help Fred work his bees, just learn about beekeeping.

It's fascinating. And, and he had cancer and had a hard time getting around and he was in about 10 health food stores. So he'd asked me if I would help him and go put honey on the shelf and said, I get up four o'clock in the morning, go put honey on the shelf for him. And then Patty was a school teacher, and then we started going down to his house and bottling honey in his garage by hand and we'd bottle it and label it.

Put a cap on it, put it in the box. I put the box in the truck and I'd go deliver it the next morning. And so we did that for, I don't [00:20:00] know, about 6, 7, 8 months. And then in the summer of 1997, he said, Hey, you wanna buy the honey company? It was like, buy the honey company. Why would I wanna do that? And I said, how much do you want?

And he said, $10,000. I said, I don't have $10,000. You guys all finance it. So I bought North Dallas, honey, 1997 for $10,000 on terms, but I didn't buy the bees, I just bought the product side. And so I hired a beekeeper, to bottle honey, and then I hired a small distributor to put it on the shelf to.

Because that summer was the same summer I was volunteering for E three partners after I'd gone on that mission trip in, in, January of that year. And I'm volunteering at E three, I'm doing this little honey company. I started a adver ad agency. And then in the summer, or in the fall of, of 1997, the guy that had led the mission trip that I had gone on was the founder and CEO of this ministry.

And he said, Hey, why don't you come on staff with us at E three? And I asked him, you have to raise support like missionaries do, right? And he said, yeah. And I was like I'll pray about that. We'll [00:21:00] see. Yeah. And so Patty and I started praying about it and felt that's what God wanted us to do.

And so we wind up going. Raising sport and going on staff at this ministry for E three. And all the while I had the honey company on the side. So that was how we, got the honey company started, with no real intentionality, when we got into it, yep. But God probably had an idea of what he wanted to do with that.

I think God had an idea. I'll tell you the, th the two things that I did and I didn't realize at the time. One, I put my phone number on the back of every bottle of honey and IS that we sold. So from 1997 to about 2014, I had it on the back and I talked to literally thousands and thousands of people.

Wow. And what that really became was a 17 year consumer research project. And then I also put a scripture verse, on the front label. I worked with this young lady named Jenny Ham, and Jenny said, Hey, you should put a Bible verse on there. I was like, okay. And without as much intentionality or thought, and so I put on there Psalms 1 19, 1 0 3, thy word [00:22:00] is sweeter than honey.

And that is probably the most talked about. Aspect of the honey company, more so than anything, and only two times have I ever had any complaints or pushback on it throughout the 30 years. Wow. Yeah. Honey comes up a lot in the Bible, doesn't it? It does. It is prolific. Yeah. So obviously the land of milk and honey.

Yeah, honey, I've heard it. Described as the perfect food. What do you, in your research, obviously you know a whole lot about honey. What is the value, what's the actual value of honey? Can you have too much honey? Scripture says that you can, so I've always I thought that was, probably a translation issue.

Yeah. But, honey is, its in its entirety is very unique. The way that your body processes it, it doesn't go through your GI tract, it actually goes through your bloodstream. And so if you're a diabetic, you can just put it on your gums and it'll instantly, start to take you out of a diabetic shock.

It's. [00:23:00] Naturally antibiotic, it's naturally antifungal. It never spoils, never goes bad, and it, and so it's got medicinal purposes and values as it contains pollen. You ingest pollen. Your, the pollen naturally, produces histamine that coats the nerve receptors in your nose and ears and eye passages.

And so when air bound pollens try to connect, they're inhibited by that histaminic coating. And so it really does help with allergenic. Properties, of just doesn't have to be from your local area. It just has to have pollen in it. And so it, it's in, it's one of the only foods that has both carbohydrate.

It is the only food that is natural that has both carbohydrate and a protein in it. You can literally survive on honey because it has both of those, components in it. And so the pollen obviously is the protein, and then the fructose, sucrose is the carbohydrate. And and then when you're, when you ingest it, it's not like normal sugar where you have a glycemic spike and then it comes down, right?

It's a [00:24:00] gentle rise and then stays up and then gently will come down. It's a remarkable food product and, we were a very fortunate to be involved in getting into honey. And then we, because of the 17 year research project, we created the raw and unfiltered sector of honey. All honey starts out Ron Unfiltered.

But historically, people would always process it and take the pollen out so it would take longer before it would crystallize. But knowing what people were looking for, 'cause I had my phone number on the back. We created the Ron Unfiltered Honey Sector in 2012. And if you added up all of the grocery store sales annually across the United States, they were about $300 million in sales back in.

2012 and had been flat for decades, no real growth. But we launched the raw unfiltered sector of honey back in 2012, and today that $300 million honey category is now $1.5 billion honey category, 12 years later. Wow. [00:25:00] And 1.3 billion of it is directly related to Ron Unfiltered. And so we just took, what was a de, millennia old product and put it back to the way that God intended it and focused on that, and it completely changed everything for the honey industry globally. Wow. Yeah. You think when, of course there'll be honey in heaven, you think there'll be any of those orange labels up there? If there is, it's gonna have that scripture verse on it.

Yeah. He likes scripture, so maybe. Yeah, I think it's God's favorite honey. I'm just being, yeah, obviously he's pretty pleased with it, I think. 'cause he is used this then through your life and you don't, you no longer work there. That's correct. I, so I sold at the end of 21. I never had any financial partners and it just had gotten too big, for me to be able to continue to invest at significant levels and continue to grow, right?

So I sold the private equity, at the end of 21, [00:26:00] and I was the CEO until November of. 2024 where they wanted to put more distance between Nate Sheets and Nature Nate, the brand. And so they said just be on the board. And then, I resigned off the board in the spring of 25, to, after I talked to my buddy Rick Santor, who's a politician who ran for president and we're in Washington DC And I was telling Rick that I spent 12 years in full-time Christian ministry, did some crazy amazing things like launching, IM second doing Advantage Cube.

And I spent 14 years at doing the honey company, and now I'm at this place. I'm like, all right, Lord. What do you have next for me? Where can I go and invest my life? And so Rick said, Hey, you should run for Ag Commissioner for the State of Texas. And I was like, room for Ag Commissioner. He said, yeah, people are getting sick from the food that we eat and we're losing farming and ranching.

And I had gotten involved with Kay at Healing Strong even before this whole. Process that we had decided to pursue. And yet as I have continued to go down this road, it's been amazing to [00:27:00] realize the impact that food has on our health, both positively and negatively. And the reason why I stepped away from nature, Nates, was to go make an impact in the lives of.

Everyone in Texas and so goes Texas. So goes thees, the rest of the United States. And so really just trying to, help clean up the food and fight chronic disease that is rampant in America and help farmers and ranchers, not just survive, but thrive. Man, that's totally outta my wheelhouse. So that's, I'm glad there's people like you out there.

It's outta mine too. I never thought I'd ever be in politics. But, it's been a, it's been a fun process. And, but listen, Jim, the same desire that I had to make an impact for God's kingdom and ministry I went into business. With that same desire. I wanted to make an impact for God's kingdom and business.

And now I'm coming with the same desire to wanna make an impact for God's kingdom in the public life in serving, Texas. And God cares. God created the [00:28:00] institution of the family, the institution of the church, and the institution of government. And I think too many times in, the evangelical church world, that sometimes the church views getting involved in politics is not spiritual.

And, and I think that we wind up fighting things in the church space, whether it's abortions or, transgenderism and these things that, that. Policy decisions are made in the public sphere, but if the church is devoid of having a presence and a voice into that, then they're railing against that, after those decisions are made versus viewing.

Being involved politically, both locally and in your state, as important as sending missionaries out into the world that we should identify, train up, equip, and send people out to go be in your school board and, in your county board and your, your, city council. Your HOA, for that matter and be involved in these public spheres to make an [00:29:00] impact for God's kingdom and bring light into those spaces.

Yeah, so the thought is, especially when I was growing up and I was called into ministry and thinking to be in the ministry, you gotta work for a church or a missionary organization. But I don't think God sees it that way. I think being in the ministry is being where you're placed. And, shining the light Absolutely.

While you are going make disciples. Yes. Yes. And you have quite a wide range, throughout your life of different areas you're in. And I don't think you're finished, obviously you're still a young man. I got a lot of, energy. Yeah. It's the honey is what it is. That's right. We're gonna, we're gonna close this up here soon, and there's so many things that are ahead of you and things you don't even know about yet, of course, which is exciting, I realize.

But where do you see things going? Obviously you just told us a little bit about it, but how about this how can we pray for you that would support you? Yeah. And I really appreciate that. Because, [00:30:00] when I say, Hey, would you pray for me, that's not just a trite request. The scripture says that Satan is like a roaring lion seeking who we can devour and lions hunt by setting traps that zebras don't ever see. And then the lions spring it on them. And so if I'm being vocal about wanting to go in to this public effect. Specter, space and make a difference for God's kingdom.

Satan's not gonna just let me do that without having, opposition come at me. And so I'd ask that you would, pray for my own, purity of heart and mind. Lut, the eyes less of the flesh and the pride of life is the sins of all men. And so I do not want to succumb to any of those.

And that, that. The Lord would put a hedge of protection around my family, my wife and my kids and that he would surround me with wise and godly counsel that would also hold me accountable. And that would maintain, a heart of servitude, to our community and not, a prideful. Thought of, look at me, I'm in politics and so I'm coming at this not 'cause I [00:31:00] wanna be involved in politics.

I'm really coming at this 'cause I want to accomplish things that I feel just like what you guys are trying to accomplish. A healing strong, of the mission of recognizing that God wants to use healthy living in spiritual life, to bring physical healing and ultimately spiritual healing to a loss and dying oral.

Wow. Yeah. And of course, thanks again for your hefty contribution to Healing Strong and partnering with us and help us to get the word out and, support people with these groups. I have a, group, it's another situation there. I was looking for a group, 'cause I had cancer. I had stage four cancer.

They gave me a month or two to live and now it's been 10 years. And, I forgot to, pass one. Praise the Lord. Yes. So I look for a group. There wasn't any in Greenville, South Carolina where I'm at. So then I thought, oh, that means I gotta start one. And I'm not good at things like that, but I thought I'll start one.

And some, there's always someone who will step up. 'cause there's always people who wanna lead. [00:32:00] It's been five years. It's not, no one has stepped up, but they all love coming. So yeah. Put that in God's hand. Think of all those lives that you've touched, all those lives that you've just touched through, your faithfulness and your obedience and that, and, those are the things that are never measured on this side of heaven.

Yeah. Just 'cause you've really don't understand the breadth of that. So thank you for what you do to make a difference in the lives of other people. And it's an honor to get to serve with healing strong. Be, an advisor and the money that we, you know, a little bit of money that we, invested in there was to really try to help challenge other people and to see the incredible work that Kay and the team have done.

That they took that and, they got, I think three times more than they ever thought that they would ever get. And that was, that was the purpose. And we're very pleased to see them do so well because that's, and again, it goes back to the earlier thing about. Moses and Exodus, God provided the money and God continues to bring alongside the Jim Mans of the [00:33:00] world, also known as Beel and Holy.

And he's given you all the giftedness to be able to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. And so I look at that as exciting times ahead for how he wants to use healing strong. Yeah, that's good. That's a good word. How can, how can people get ahold of you or are you trying to. Keep them from getting hold of you.

No. You can go to, nate sheets.com. That's our political, space. And or on social media. Nate Sheets for TX or Nate Sheets for Texas on Facebook. And so I'm pretty, I'm pretty easy to get hold of even my email's. Pretty simple. Nate. At nate sheets.com and if anybody ever has any advice or encouragement, I'm always open and love to hear.

Yeah, just don't look for your phone number rolling the bottle anymore 'cause it's not there. It's not. Okay. Nate, I appreciate it. It was an honor meeting you and hopefully we'll cross paths at a Healing strong event or something. And you too. Thanks Jim. May the Lord bless you, brother.

You've been listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast. A [00:34:00] part of the Healing Strong organization. We hope you found encouragement in this episode, as well as the confidence to take control of your healing journey, knowing that God will guide you on this path. Healing Strong is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to connect, support and educate individuals facing cancer and other diseases through strategies that help to rebuild the body.

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