Ashleigh: With the fibromyalgia, one day it's my shoulder, then the next day it's my knees. Like, oh my gosh, I can't... hurt, or my foot or my back. And so it became really super universal for me. Mm-hmm. And I've dealt with carpal tunnel and cubital tunnel surgeries in my hands, and then the endometriosis has affected my, um, lymphatic-ish, my lymphatic system and my drainage.
And so this, uh, the PMF also helps push out inflammation. Um, and so it became a very universal tool for me. Um, so I was a patient for a long time, and then decided to get into it myself.
Announcer: You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world.
Each week, we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now, here's your host, stage 4 cancer thriver, Jim Mann.
Jim: We're speaking to Ashley Lindeman today from Post Falls, Idaho. How are you?
Ashleigh: I'm great. How are you?
Jim: Fantastic. I've been to Idaho one time.
It was in McCall, Idaho.
Ashleigh: Oh, yep. Yep, southern.
Jim: It was breathtakingly beautiful. It was in the winter. It was a, uh, a Men of Radio retreat. Okay. And we went up there, and it was three foot of snow.
Ashleigh: Oh, yeah.
Jim: It was immaculate, and it was so peaceful. I sat up into the... where the, uh, the cafeteria or whatever. It's very rustic.
Sat up there, and I drank a lot of coffee, and I did work on my iPad or whatever I had at the time, and just enjoyed it. And on our third day, we're out there enjoying the peace and quiet, and then we see three buses of kids come.
Ashleigh: That changed it a little bit.
Jim: Yeah, it left. I mean, we thought, "Oh, this is perfect playground for a kid," but-
Ashleigh: Yeah ... we
Jim: were enjoying the peace and quiet, but they were making- Oh ... forts and throwing snowballs, and, like, thank God it was on our last day, so. We smiled and waved. Yep,
Ashleigh: that's a pretty area, too.
Jim: Yeah.
So and you've lived there all your life, right?
Ashleigh: Yep, born and raised. Um, Coeur d'Alene, live in Hayden. Uh, my office is in Post Falls, and then, so just all around this whole little conglomerate area.
Jim: All right. You got a big family?
Ashleigh: Uh, I have two siblings, a older brother that passed away about a year ago, and then- Oh
a sister.
Jim: Sorry to hear that. Thanks. And, uh, what got you interested in, uh, health?
Ashleigh: My own personal journey, I started out- Yeah ... we didn't know it at the time. Um, I had endometriosis starting at 15 years old. Wow. And so, um, I started with severe pain early on, and it took them until 2018 to- Hmm ... figure out what it was.
And so I went, like, 17 years without a diagnosis. Wow. Um, and so I was in a ton of pain, and I end up going to Cleveland Clinic for a week to try and get diagnosises, and they even missed it. Um, and so I had- Yeah ... several other autoimmune things that were going on at the time. But, um, that kinda started the, a lot of the issues.
And so, um, after we got some things, kind of diagnosises and found some things out, I decided I... They had put me on eight medications out of Cleveland Clinic. And I decided after a couple years, I came back, and I was like, "Forget it. I'm either gonna find a better way to handle this," 'cause I didn't wanna be 80 and be stuck on Cymbalta and Neurontin for the- Right
autoimmune for fibromyalgia. And so I was like, "I'm done. I'm gonna find a better way to do this." And so, um, it took the long, slow path of trying to find the natural route. Yeah. And a lot of trying this and trying that, and this supplement and that thing over and over, and just not giving up, so.
Jim: So you said that was 17 years from 15 on?
Ashleigh: Yeah, 15 on, it was 17 years, and then we finally found my endometriosis when I went in to do one of my 17 surgeries that I've had. Um, they went in to do a hip surgery, um, and they found, they decide- they said I would wanna get my tubes tied. At the time, I was 31, and they said, "You don't wanna have kids after this," 'cause of what they were gonna have to do to my hips, and it was a genetic thing.
And so, um, uh- Yeah ... they went in to tie my tubes, and that's when they found the endometriosis everywhere. So it was kind of an answered prayer that I got the tubal, um, because we had finally, doctors had given up on trying to find out what was going on in my abdomen. They just knew that it was really upset, but I didn't have cancer- Mm
'cause I went to an oncologist to make sure. My lymph nodes were all swollen, but they verified that it wasn't cancerous. And so they said- Right ... "Well, all we can do is just give you pain medication." And so we'd been on that route for years, just trying to manage it. And so getting the tubal actually was a blessing.
And so we found it, and then dealt with that issue amongst many other
Jim: things. Yeah. So did you see it at a, as a blessing at the time?
Ashleigh: Finding it out? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, because I just, I had no answer and I felt like I was going crazy. Right. And so, I mean, it felt like your guts are being burned and ripped out at the same time.
And so- Yeah ... especially as a teenager, you know, trying to describe that, and then at least thankfully I had a m- a mom that, you know, believed me and stuff. But, um- Right ... it was years of... And, and I've been actually going through a flare-up right now, and so even two weeks ago I looked like six months pregnant over, for like four or five days, and it ma- they call it endo belly, and you swell up really bad.
So I've had two excision surgeries for endometriosis. Point, do not get ablations. Um, they just make it regrow. I'm in the small percentage that had a reoccurrence after an excision surgery for endometriosis, which is, um, a, takes a specialty surgeon to do. Um- Mm ... and then I had an endometrioma that grew back on my ovary that started bleeding in my abdomen and re-implanted the endometriosis again.
So they took that out three years ago, um, and left the ovary. They said if it comes back, they're forced to take the ovary. And I'm praying. Why, I'm have an ultrasound here on Thursday because I'm starting to have some of the symptoms I had again three years ago, and the growth might be back. So I may- Yeah
have to have the, go have the, the one ovary taken, and I'm praying I can still have the other one 'cause I'm only 39. So I'm already dealing with post-menopause levels with hormones after my surgery and stuff, so there's a lot of multitude of things going on that, that I, that I'm balancing every day.
Jim: Wow, Ashley, that doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
Ashleigh: It's not, but I, you know, I have clients that I've gotten to that are in a wheelchair and/or have cancer, and I spent eight weeks in a wheelchair after one of my surgeries- Mm-hmm ... and it really started to give me an, a different outlook. I will admit, in my early 20s, I was, it was a glass half empty outlook.
And, um, I've grown up a Christian all my life and everything, but I was like, "Oh, it's the same. Half empty, half full, it's all the same."
Announcer: Right.
Ashleigh: And I started to real- after that wheelchair, it really gave me the glass is half full, and it turned my perspective. And so, of course, I have hard days and, you know, questions and days where I'm just like, "Lord, why?"
Like, "Aren't I done yet?" Um, but I try to look at the other side and go, "Hey, I'm not in a wheelchair. I'm not dealing with a lot of other things." I have a client that has lost both of her feet. And so- Hmm ... you know, there's so many things that I could not, that I'm not going through, and so it helps make those days to, you know, you work through those things and then pray and then get peace and go, "Okay, thank you for what I do have," and keep, you know, battling and keeping, you know, your head up and praying about it and keep the peace.
And I'm like, and my mom's always told me, "God will never, you know, w- waste what I've gone through." And so now- Hmm ... doing what I do for work, it's, um, become a big blessing that I can try and, um, understand other clients and their needs and what they're going through and sympathize with them. And so it's not just, "Oh, I'm sorry that hurts," you know?
But I can actually, lots of times, understand what it is, what it's feeling like, and so it's given me a different perspective.
Jim: Wow. That mindset is very important in life, period, 'cause I remember-
Ashleigh: Yeah ...
Jim: I went on a missions trip with a bunch of, uh, young kids. It was, it wasn't even a youth group. It was, like, the children's church, and we took a bunch- Mm-hmm
of them to Romania. And of course, they're whining all the way, 'cause they're Americans, you know? Yeah. They had really tough things, like, uh, their clothes weren't right or whatever.
Ashleigh: Right.
Jim: And they were walking through the streets of, uh, uh, one of the cities, and it was at night, and we looked in the drainage, and you see, like, these little fires back there, and we're like, "What in the world's going on there?"
And they explained, "Well, that's where, that's where orphans live. They just hide in the drainage system. And, you know, and they have fires to keep them warm, and people give them drugs just to take away the pain." And so that sobered up our kids real quick.
Ashleigh: Outlook, yeah.
Jim: And they didn't complain for a whole week until we got back to America, and then it came, came right back.
Ashleigh: Came right back. It's easy to get, you know, get into that and you, you know, you just start.
Jim: Yeah.
Ashleigh: We worked with some veterans this weekend, and I took my equipment over and worked on some veterans at an appreciation event, and had one of- Hmm ... my girlfriend's kids with us, you know, and one of the guys was homeless, you know, and so she, I, I told my girlfriend's daughter that.
And she was like, "What?" She goes, "That's so sad." And I was like, "Yeah." I said, "You know, there are more, so many out there that we don't realize," you know? So there's a lot of things- Right ... that, in our life that we can be grateful for, that there's always somebody who's struggling worse or that, you know, and we truly are completely so blessed, so, um- Yeah
it doesn't make all the easy days, you know, and sometimes when it takes you down, but it's just, you know, getting back up and then being able to be a blessing with what you have.
Jim: All right. Well, since you were, like most kids at that age, you know, when they hit 18, of course, and they're planning their life and what they wanna do and, and you know, the whole world is open to them, but you were, of course, going through a lot of things.
What, what was it that you wanted to do with your life? Or have you been thinking about that at the time?
Ashleigh: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I did. Um, I was in sixth grade. I decided I wanted to be a surgeon, and so I- Wow ... end up skipping seventh grade. My teacher, um, approached me about it. I skipped seventh grade. Um, and then I started, this is two, early 2000s.
Most people weren't dual enrolling those days or anything. And so- Mm ... my senior year, I was the only kid in our school that ended up dual enrolling with college. So I ended up finishing almost with my AA by that time. Um- Wow ... and so then I was getting accepted into the nursing program. I had gotten accepted by our college volleyball team to play for them, and um, then I had a car accident, and a guy hit me from behind and bounced off and hit me again, and I was stopped, fully stopped, and came, he didn't, wasn't paying attention and came up at a red light and nailed me.
Yeah. So, um, it gave me a lot of neck and back issues after that, and they told me I wouldn't be able to handle doing nursing or surgeon for being able to stand hours and stuff like that with my neck and back. And so I had a reality check with God at that point, 'cause here I had planned all these years to go through and go to med school and become a surgeon, and I was like, "Okay, Lord, like, what plan am I supposed to be on?"
Like, this was not the trajectory I thought w- we had talked about. And so, um, I ended up getting my health and life insurance license and kind of went a roundabout. I end up working for our police department here and the prosecutor's office. My mom's a court reporter, so I've kind of had that other legal side to my world.
Mm-hmm. Um, and then I really started to have a crisis with, like, the fibromyalgia pain, and they had diagnosed me with fibromyalgia, myofascial, Sjogren's, um, Ehlers-Danlos, and endometriosis. Um, and so, uh, I started having really a crisis with the stress at the police department and that type of job. And so, um, I ended up leaving it and trying to get, like, my health under control.
And right around that time is when I went to Cleveland Clinic too. Mm-hmm. And so then that's when they sent me back on all these medications, saw six different doctors for a week out there, and, you know, they're throwing this. And at that point, I've become kind of so desperate of like, "I'll do anything," like, "I just need the pain to stop."
And so it was a, a weak moment in a way, but I'm like, medication, you know, there's certain things for it. But I came back and then after a couple years I was like, "Okay, these are making me gain weight. They're doing all these other side effects," and eventually, you know, they're stacking on top of each other.
And so, um, then it started to bring me around to, uh, you know, trying to find that different path. And so in a long way now, God's brought me back to this medical side through my own journey of all these issues and stuff, being able to use these things and the experiences I've been through to now be able to help people, you know, go through whatever they're going through.
So, um, it's exciting to see that he's using it one way or another. And 'cause I- my ultimate dream, dream is I wanted to be a surgeon. I wanted to open, like, a low-income clinic where I could do surgery for people that couldn't afford it. How it would've happened in real day society, I don't know. But, you know, that was a sixth grader's dream.
So Um, but, you know, it's fun to be able to turn around, and I have a lot of seniors in here. Um, you know, so it's just, it's b- it's fun to be able to see that people can go, "Oh my gosh, you've been through that, you understand." And the look on their face- Mm-hmm ... when you can try and, you know, commiserate with them, and they feel like they're being heard and stuff, that's a blessing 'cause it, you know, makes, it makes what I've gone through at least feel like it's, um, worth something.
Jim: Right. Wow. You and I are so different. In sixth grade, I was learning how to tie my shoes.
Ashleigh: No, I'm sure you weren't.
Jim: I, I, I didn't have the drive. I was just floating through life. I didn't really land into my career till I was 30, and that's pretty sad, I know.
Ashleigh: No, it's not. You know, like we all have our own paths there, and I hear...
I thought I had this straight line, you know, to what I wanted to do, and we did this, and we came back around, you know, to something in the medical field. And it's kinda fun 'cause I see the pigeonhole that Western medicine would've kinda put me into, you know? And so- Mm-hmm ... it's exciting to kinda see, like, I- I- as my personality has grown and changed, I think I would've had a harder time, um, conforming to some of that.
Right. And I probably would've started saying things that I shouldn't have. "Oh, go try this, and go try that." Yeah. Um, so, you know, I'm kinda happy in a way that, you know, this is, God used what I had to do, you know, and He knew the path. Right. And so however He put that desire in my heart, it's, you know, starting to come around to a different picture that I had than I had in my mind, so.
Jim: So now you, you own Pulse for Life, LLC. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Is that what it's called?
Ashleigh: Yep.
Jim: And, uh, explain what that is.
Ashleigh: So we do PEMF therapy, pulse electromagnetic field therapy. Mm-hmm. So the way I describe it, it's like earthing and grounding, but on steroids. So I have, um, a couple different applicators in here.
We have a full body bed that is like that earthing, grounding kind of s- experience, but it's stronger. You might feel some light tingling sensation through it. Um, and then I have heavy duty, um, high intensity machines where I can work on people's injuries in focus locations. Yeah. So, like, if I put my cord around your calf, usually your foot will bounce, like, at certain intensities, and I can get int- that high of intensity of a machine.
Um, we can work on heads, anything head to toe. So plantar fasciitis, bulging discs, um, neuropathy, um, post and pre-surgery. And so we can't ever say that, like, we're healing anything. All it's doing is giving the tool that your body is supposed to have from the earth that God created to help you. Right. So you get, um, electromagnetic, the pulse.
You get that PEMF from the earth. And so when you go out, and earthing and grounding, and you're supposed to, like, put your feet in the ground, and it energizes you. It's that, but at stronger level. And so it's, it's energizing the mitochondria of your cell. Um, the PEMF penetrates the cell membrane. It goes in and energizes the cell, and it- Mm-hmm
gives that body fuel, so it can turn into ATP and use that for energy to go do its job. So it's just boosting what we don't get as much 'cause we're not farming, we're not on the ground, we're constantly separated from the dirt. Right. So even the shoes and your rubber, the rubber in your shoes is diminishes that signal.
Right. So I tell clients it's like a Wi-Fi router. The further you get away, the less you get. And so we're getting less and less recharged, so it's pretty amazing that our bodies keep up with what we throw at them when we're giving them less power than they need. Um, and I'll tell people, "Charge your power, charge your cell phone to half power and expect it to last all day."
That's what our cell, you know, our cells are struggling with. Yeah. And so, um, I'm just going in and I work on people's focus is- you know, their issues if they have neck and shoulder tension. I've had two people in with, you know, ruptured discs recently. Um, and then, you know, infections or healing wounds. Um, so it's, it's going to the core issue, and you're just giving that cell the power it needs so it can go do what it was assigned to do better.
So it's pretty universal, and that's what drew me to the PEMF about 15 years ago. Mm. Because I could start chasing the issues and be like, you know, with the fibromyalgia, one day it's my shoulder, then the next day it's my knees. Like oh my gosh, that can't hurt, or my foot or my back. And so it became really super universal for me.
Mm-hmm. And I've dealt with carpal tunnel and pubital tunnel surgeries in my hands, and then the endometriosis has affected my, um, lymphatic is- my lymphatic system and my drainage. And so this, uh, the PEMF also helps push out inflammation. Um, and so it became a very universal tool for me. Um, so I was a patient for a long time, and then decided to get into it myself.
Jim: Wow. So there was another place near you that was doing this, and it helped you- Mm ... so much that obviously you wanna start it y- start your own. I don't know if there's any around here. Can you open one up here in South Carolina?
Ashleigh: In... Yeah, and then there, you can, there's a c- you can look them up on Google and stuff and see.
And the gal that used to own this that I actually, she approached me about taking it over. Oh, okay. She was gonna retire out and work on horses. I was her patient. Mm. And she's like, "I think you got the personality for it," and she wanted to work on animals only s- and kinda- Mm ... was done with people. And so she went to work on animals.
And so she approached me about that. I trained under her, and then I did the national training as well, and then, uh, changed the name and took over it myself just almost three years ago. And so, but I've been around it for a lot longer than that. And so it's, um, it's I love it, and it, it's been able to be able to give me hands-on of being able to use things that I know, you know, that they're out there that people can try.
Right. I went through the, the issue of trying so many things, you know, this, that, and the other. And so it's fun 'cause sometimes in one session you'll start to see a difference. Sometimes n- people take longer for chronic things. Right. But sometimes they can maybe start to see that little bit of hope, you know, that light into the end of the tunnel with a little bit of change.
So we do that, red light, and then hyperbaric. And so trying to combine those three technologies is really helpful 'cause they go well together. But giving people alternatives, you know, and a place that they can try and get some, some help, so.
Jim: Yeah, 'cause there's so much information out there. Like one thing, you know, I've...
You know, I'm not a good researcher . And the medical area is not my strength, so- Uh, I do have a-- My youngest daughter is about to graduate in, in December as a nurse, so I'll just use her. That might work out well But there's so much out there. Okay. If you don't, like, understand s- so many things that I should be understanding by now.
When you go through cancer, you know, they gave me a month or two to live, so that's, that's kind of not fun.
Ashleigh: No. Uh-
Jim: For sure ... it's been 10 years ago.
Ashleigh: That's awesome.
Jim: Uh, yeah.
Ashleigh: Amazing.
Jim: Yeah, I was never good at following directions. It's not, you know, not in a rebellious way, I just like, "What? What did he say?" But there's so, you know, I thought, hey, hey, I gotta change something, obviously, because the cancer didn't just, like, fall on me- Uh-huh
or I caught it from somebody, you know. It's something in my body- Yeah ... that happened, uh, that caused the cancer to be able to grow like that. And so like, I wanna get rid of the sugar. You know, of course, the easiest thing is nutrition, 'cause everyone-
Announcer: Right ...
Jim: just about everyone does not eat all the right things.
Oh, yeah. And I, I never gained weight, so I could eat a- as much sugar as I wanted, and people hated me for it. And I liked that. But, so I cut sugar out and instantly felt better. And I made it through that first Christmas without eating any cookies or anything. I was so impressed with myself.
Ashleigh: That's hard.
Jim: I know.
And I did-- But once you stop for a while, it's like-
Ashleigh: The craving goes away. Yep.
Jim: Yeah. So, you know.
Ashleigh: I like walking down the grocery aisles, and when you start seeing things and it starts to make you feel sick to your stomach, and you look at the b- and it's like, oh, I'm like, we're at a different place. I'm like, is that?
And I'm like, "Mm-mm." Like, that just makes me feel ugh. Yeah. I'm like, nope, I don't want it. My body's telling me nope.
Jim: Yes, true. So. And you gotta be very careful 'cause it get, it does seep its way back into you.
Ashleigh: It does.
Jim: You know, if you don't, if you let it.
Ashleigh: But- Yep, that's easy ...
Jim: and, like, vegetables, obviously. I don't think, I don't know if anybody eats enough vegetables- We should
even if they eat them. But yeah, so, you know, I did all the o- you know, the obvious things, but there's so many, uh, different protocols and whatnot, and they're all, you know, most of them are good, or all of them as far as I know. But it's so confusing to people like myself especially, like, well- Mm-hmm ... this PEMF, it's, it sounds like a good idea.
Should I try that? Or should I try this instead? Or should I try- Mm-hmm ... whatever. Yeah. What, what do you tell people like that? It's like, hey, well, it's not, it's almost like they're at a carnival and they're, you know, people are trying to get their attention. Right. And I know that's not what it is.
Ashleigh: Yeah. No, it's hard.
And I'm like, and I've told people, like, through my journey it was, you know, it was trying this and seeing did this work, did that work, but then finding your own little, like, group, your own community of things that worked for you. Mm-hmm. So, you know, you might combine and be like, okay, for me, it's chiropractic, this, and massage, and those are the things that usually work for me, plus all the supplements that I, you know, I take and that I work with in my food and my diet.
Mm-hmm. You know, somebody might be this and acupuncture and chiropractic. Um, I, I am very much for people getting assistance from other places to combine with this, um, and not- Right ... like holding them or stronghold on them, you know, and holding them hostage and going, "You can't go anywhere else." 'Cause people lots of times, you know, need other things, and this works for this and this works for that, and- Right
you know, sometimes you need to use that tool in your tool belt. And so it, it took a lot of just trial and error. And my- Mm-hmm ... ex-husband had told me once, he's like, "You're always gonna be sick. You're never gonna be better." And I was like, "Okay, this is a great motivator." I was like, "Nope." And I was like, "I don't accept that."
And you know, I was like, "No, I'm..." He's like, "Well, you're always trying this, you're always trying that." And I'm like, "Yeah, 'cause I'm not gonna give up." Right. And so, you know, and it was getting off, I got off all but, uh, two of those medications from Cleveland Clinic. I dumped everything and tried, and I d- I dumped Cymbalta and Neurontin in two weeks at the same time, two and a half weeks.
Announcer: Wow.
Ashleigh: And I detoxed them off myself, and my doctor was like, "You did what?" And so I went through and I started opening up the capsules of the Cymbalta, and I, I was gonna, like, do, like, a skip a night, skip two nights, and try it that way. And I got what felt like it was on the dark web. I found a blog, someone there talking about, "Don't do that, puts you through withdrawal," um, and to go open up the caplets and then, um, see how many, you can see how many beadlets were inside and start pulling out a couple at a time.
And she did it over, like, six months, and I was like, "I am not that patient." Wow. And so I was like, "I want this out of my body." And so I opened up that capsule the first night and I took four beadlets out, and total, in totality, they didn't even equal the size of a pinhead. There was a couple hundred in that capsule.
Wow. And I was ... When I felt the difference of those four coming out, I was like, "I'm done." I'm like, "The fact that I can feel those four and feel the change is not okay." Yeah. And so I went, like, I went a couple days and I just started doubling that number every time, and every couple days I'd double that number.
And I used my mom's far-infrared sauna and acetyl-L-carnitine to help feed my brain, and at the time, doTERRA and essential oils, and detoxed it. And that was bor- before Cymbalta. There was a lawsuit with Cymbalta, I believe, that went around, 'cause they had no protocol to come off their medication. Right.
And so it's like heroin for the brain. And so I came off- Hmm ... that and Neurontin at the same time. And so my doctor was li- was impressed. I mean, she's, is for natural and Western. She's a mix of both, and so she was happy for me, but she was like, "You are so lucky." I had some, you know, kind of disturbances and things and, but I, I muscled through it and did them in two and a half weeks and had it out.
Wow. So, um, I dumped m- all that other stuff and got rid of the migraine medications and stuff like that. So now I just use pain medicine as necessary if, if I have super bad days, 'cause I, I told them, I said, "I'd rather do something on the, my worst days than to be taking something systemically all the time."
Right. And so I'm like, "If I need it, I'd rather have to work with that a little bit here and there than having to have something, you know, that's gonna be doing something every day, and deal with everything as much naturally as possible."
Jim: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point 'cause everybody's condition is different.
Mm-hmm. Uh, and this, this makes sense for you, especially with all the pain that you've had throughout your body, that something like this would be a, an advantage for you.
Ashleigh: Yeah. Yeah, so the PMF is super helpful 'cause it helps with the pain by reducing that inflammation and stuff like that. Right. So, and then I deal with Ehlers-Danlos, so I'm hypermobile, so my joints are more easily damaged or injured.
Right. And so in sports in my early days, it was a great feature. You know, everybody's like- Right ... "You're so flexible. You know, keep pushing that stretch." And that's exactly what you don't wanna do. Yeah. And so we didn't know it at the time, but yeah, it's not so f- not such a great thing. And so, um, you know, it's one of those things I have to watch and so I can get...
You know, you barely bump something and then you're way more injured than somebody else will be 'cause you're already- Wow ... out of alignment, so.
Jim: Wow.
Ashleigh: Yeah, it's fun. That sounds
Jim: like fun.
Ashleigh: Yeah.
Jim: Now s- uh, let me use me as an example since I'm the only person I really know. Okay, my cancer was melanoma, and so there wasn't pain throughout my body, and there wasn't actually any pain.
Uh, but they put me through, um, they had surgery, had to remove it, and skin grafts, and all kinds of fun stuff. They were shocked that it had not spread, you know? Mm-hmm. It hadn't been to any lymph nodes. It wasn't on the border, even though it was bigger than any of their charts, which I was very impressed how I beat all their charts.
Ashleigh: That's awesome.
Jim: But, uh, but then it came back in 18 months. It came back with tumors all inside my body.
Ashleigh: Ah.
Jim: I thought, "Well, darn it." That's not what I wanted, but-
Ashleigh: Yeah ...
Jim: still. But then they put me on immunotherapy. They were so excited about this new immunotherapy.
Ashleigh: Mm-hmm.
Jim: And, uh, and I thought, well, I hadn't done enough research yet, so it sounds like a good idea 'cause it's, you know, building up your own, uh, immune system to combat that.
Then they said, but then the side effects are sometimes it'll attack your organs once it takes care of the, all the tumors, or it will just, like your joints and your tendons and stuff in your legs usually-
Announcer: Mm-hmm ...
Jim: which is what I'm getting. Mm-hmm. Some days my legs are like 95 years old. Mm-hmm. Um, the next day I'm like a gazelle.
So, it's just really weird. But I'm like, but there's like a pain. Of course, I'm 68 also. I'm not getting younger, so there's, I g- well, how much of it is me just getting older?
Announcer: Right.
Jim: Uh, and I've always been very active, but, but how much is that? So, in my condition, uh, and by the way, the immunother- therapy did take care of all the tumors in two months, so I'm very grateful for that.
Yeah. They kept me on it for two years, but- ... so I had all that stuff in me, which is like killing my legs and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. But would something like this help that?
Ashleigh: Yeah, so we, usually what I tell people, I'm like, it depending on what's going on, most of the diseases have inflammation involved.
Jim: Oh, yeah.
Ashleigh: So, the PEMF is great at helping get that inflammation reduced. But the, which I'm waiting to see more studies come out, because they do have, PEMF has a, as much as I care about what the FDA thinks. They do have, um, approval for, um, uh, brain cancer, bone growth, uh, PTSD, depression, anxiety. And so I healed my bone fusion in five weeks instead of eight, and got out of my cast three weeks early.
Wow. Um, and it's interesting that they have the approval for the brain cancer and not cancer in and of itself, because cancer t- like, you know, breaks the cell apart- Mm ... makes it oblong, and replicates. So the idea is that juicing up that cell with the PEMF is helping keep that cell healthy and round, so it can't- Wow
be made sick, and made oblong, and break it apart, and replicate it. So common sense would say if it works for that, why doesn't it work for this?
Announcer: Mm-hmm.
Ashleigh: Um, so but Stanford is doing a post-op clinical trial for p- um, orthopedic shoulder and knee surgeon- surgeries for patients- Mm-hmm ... and trying to see about improving, um, healing times and reducing pain medic- medications with it.
So there's more things that it's starting to get into, so it's gonna be interesting to see if they do some more cancer research with it. Mm-hmm. Um, I have a friend who had y- or has metastatic and, um, ended up getting one of the full body beds in conjunction with her other therapies and used the PEMF three times a day and is still here, but she had a young daughter and was, you know, decided to get some of the, the chemo to try and stay around for her kid, but then use alternative and healthy things at the same time.
And so you're constantly boosting and helping that cell to stay healthy and round. So- Makes sense to go, "Hey, if I can keep energizing it and giving it the tool it needs to fight this battle, then I have a better chance of fighting this battle." So-
Jim: Right ...
Ashleigh: you know, kind of do with that what you will with your, you know, common sense thought, thought processes.
But, um, to me, and what, uh, kinda popped in my brain is one of the things that really sold me on this is it, for me, it's just giving us what God put in the earth for us.
Jim: Right.
Ashleigh: So I'm not giving myself something, you know, synthetic that, you know, is whatever. It's giving you the same thing that your cell's supposed to have, that God designed it to run on.
So- Right ... it's like it's there. He put it there for a reason, and they give it to astronauts when they come back from outer space because they get far away from the electromagnetic fields, and they, you'll ta- you'll hear 'em. They'll talk about it on snippets on the news. I think it was like NM- NBC or whatever from, not this last one, but the one before.
They mentioned that PEMF was gonna be part of their therapy when they landed. Yeah. So, um, it's, it's cool, and there's, like, athletes out there that I've gotten one of my machines from that use it, that swear by it, and so that are mainstream athletes, and they use it all the time. So- Hmm ... uh, you know, and it's like it just shouldn't be only accessible to, you know, tho- that type of, um, caliber of people, you know?
Right. It's like everybody should be able to, and not have to pay, like, out the nose for it. Yeah. So, um, but yeah. It was just kind of like it ma- it made sense, you know? I'm like, "Oh, I'm giving the thing my God made my body desire," you know? So this makes sense.
Jim: Yes. It does make sense. It's, like, logical which sometimes that's not used a lot, logic.
Ashleigh: Right. Yeah. It's like if it's too simple, it can't work, right?
Jim: Yeah. You said you recently were able to talk to the Healing Strong group there in-
Ashleigh: Yeah ...
Jim: in, uh, Post Falls.
Ashleigh: Yeah. Yep. I went out and spoke to them and shared our, my, kinda my story and just, you know, what we do, and giving 'em some tips. You know, going out and putting your feet in the grass every day, you know, for 30 minutes.
Yeah. If, 'cause if, uh, if you're not even around a place where you can get PEMF, you know, go out and put your feet in the grass. If you can look in the direction of the sun, they say about three minutes in the morning, even if it's not sunny, helps your circadian rhythm. Um- Mm-hmm ... but go out, you know, at least in the nice time of year.
Get your feet on the grass and just slow down, you know, and enjoy that re- e- people, you go out in the woods and you camp, and you get so tired and exhausted, and you're just like, "Oh, I feel so relaxed." I'm like, "'Cause we're away from all, you know, all this-" Right ... "stuff and junk." And so, um, you know, you can at least do that for free at home.
But yeah, I got to share with them here about that and, you know, just try and encourage people that, you know, they just gotta keep... It's hard to keep up the faith and keep going sometimes, you know, and be like- Yeah ... "I've tried so much. I've, nothing else is gonna work," you know? This, "I'm sure this isn't gonna work again," you know?
And some people, it's not the full-on answer for, but you know, it's, it's exciting to see when we get a majority of people getting some help, so.
Jim: Ashley, how can people get ahold of you?
Ashleigh: my website's pulseforlifellc.com. Right. Um, and we're on there. Um, there is a company called Pulse PEMF. They can Google them, and they do, um, sell good machines.
Um, they're very expensive, but on their website they have a directory that you can look up by zip code and see if there's anybody in your area that owns a Pulse PEMF machine. Mm. Um, I have one of the other brands, PEMF Systems. It's also very well-known. Um, they don't have an online directory through their thing.
Um- Right ... but getting, getting PEMF, but getting it from a reputable source who has good machines is kind of the deal. So PEMF System devices are, are fantastic. Pulse, Pulse PEMF is a good company. Um, so if you're not in this area, you know, I'll talk to people around the world with my other auditing job that I do and, you know, be, encourage people to, you know, look it up or look up on their website and see if they can find somebody and, and give it a try.
But, um, yeah, if you're in the area here or visiting, we'd be happy to see you. I do have some family, I have clients that they have family that comes in from out of town, and when they come in out of town we get them on the schedule, and they're looking to move here too, but we get them on a schedule when they come into town.
So yeah, if you wanna take a vacation, hit me up. But otherwise- All right ... you know, there's some, you know, usually in Google and try and find out some places, you know, that have some stuff, but there's a lot of knock-off things, especially the, you know, you start Googling and Facebook starts showing you, oh, here's a $200 device, you know?
Yeah. Our equipment's not that, and so, um- ... yeah, it's, it's expensive USA-made stuff, so.
Jim: I live near, uh, Asheville, North Carolina. I would think there'd be stuff like that there, 'cause they're-
Ashleigh: It, yeah, very likely could. You know, yeah, and it's just trying to find, you know, somebody who's got the, you know, good equipment.
And you'll see. You know? Right. And I, I don't mind helping anybody if somebody reaches out, you know, and trying to see if, you know, and look on their website for some place they found. I've told people that too, you know. "Hey, if you find somebody and you want me to kinda peek at what they say they have," I don't mind doing that, so.
Jim: Perfect.
Ashleigh: Yeah.
Jim: I'm sorry you had to go through all that and you're, you're- That's all right ... 15 on, uh- Yeah ... before you- That's
Ashleigh: all right ...
Jim: figured it out. And of course you're still, still dealing with it.
Ashleigh: Yep.
Jim: Yeah, we, we just, we like your attitude. We like your mindset. Thank you. And so, uh...
Ashleigh: Try to keep it. On my, on my class ring in high school, it, everybody said I was known for joy, and so on my class ring from high school it says, "Joy" on the side.
And so-
Announcer: Wow ...
Ashleigh: you know, I feel like God's kind of hopefully, you know, I try to use that, that God's given me, and it's... My husband gets to see it sure ain't perfect every day. But- ... you know, it's, at least if I can share that, you know, encourage other people and try and, um... I've had my bad outlook days for sure.
We're all human. But, you know, trying to use what God's- Yeah ... given me and turn it around, so.
Jim: As an American, I'm gonna whine here because I just got a text from my, uh, AC person, 'cause- Uh-oh ... it's six- 69 degrees downstairs and it's 80-something upstairs.
Ashleigh: Uh-oh.
Jim: So he's, he's replacing the motor and condenser and stuff, so.
Ashleigh: Oh, I don't blame you. Yeah. Dealing in po- with, yeah, dealing with this post-menopause so early, uh, yeah, yeah. I've, anything- ... over about 70 and I start losing, I get hot and sweaty, and we just got AC. I bought my house when I was 19. Wow. I've been there 20 years- Wow ... and this month, and, uh, we officially have come into the 21st century and we have air conditioning.
So-
Jim: Wow,
Ashleigh: congratulations ... we just got it about a week ago, so I'm so excited.
Jim: So. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I could deal with 80 up there, but my wife can't, so.
Ashleigh: Yeah. No, it, yeah, I had a double concussion last year, too, so that's been making it a little bit more tough with the heat on top of it. Wow. So I dropped a drill gun off our, uh, 10-foot ladder on my head, and then it managed to hit me here on the front lobe, s- hit the step, and then ricocheted back into my face and took out about two-thirds of my front tooth.
So. You're
Jim: just showing off.
Ashleigh: I, I do those kind of things. I'm like, they'd be stories that you think you could never, that would never happen. I'll, I should be on the Allstate commercial, you know, that shows that- ... they're insured just for this, 'cause those are the usually things that are off the wall that happen that you just don't think could happen.
Jim: Yeah.
Ashleigh: So.
Jim: They need to follow you around with cameras, I guess.
Ashleigh: Oh, yeah, I'm sure Affleck is tired of my accident claims, but.
Jim: Oh,
Ashleigh: well. You know, I, my girlfriends I'll t- I'll tell her, I'm like, "Oh, I fell down and did this." She's like, she goes, "I don't know why," she goes, "I laugh at your stories of when you get hurt," but she's like, "I always see you laugh at yourself, so I gotta laugh, too."
I'm like, "If you don't laugh, you know, otherwise I'd be crying, so I just gotta laugh at it."
Jim: That's right. Okay. Well, I'll let you go so you can go fall somewhere.
Ashleigh: No,
Jim: no, no, no.
Ashleigh: And...
Announcer: Yeah.
Jim: Well, just sit still for a hell of a day.
Ashleigh: Yeah, yeah.
Jim: All right. Well, it's great to meet you, and thank you so much- Yeah, great to meet you
to, for, for making this happen.
Ashleigh: Yeah. Thanks so much for having me, Jim.
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