Just two guys randomly talking about Kendrick Lamar's 2022 album "Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers" and what we find interesting about the album and what it may mean.
If you somehow have not listened to Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers here is a link where you can buy or listen to it- Full Album
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Just two guys randomly talking about Kendrick Lamar's 2022 album "Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers" and what we find interesting about the album and what it may mean.
If you somehow have not listened to Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers here is a link where you can buy or listen to it- Full Album
Intro / Outro Music: Bluudbath by zetasins
No Name Station Podcast - https://www.buzzsprout.com/1913595/share
No Name Station's Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-gQJIAVTKyNjuF2fyCnUpg
No Name Station's Twitter - https://twitter.com/NoNameStation1
Nobody Knows Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyKnows9000
Hey, where? Hey, don't go in there yet. Wait, wait. Hey, come here, Come here, come here Vier. Hey, um, it's been a long time coming, doing an episode on Mr. Mor Morale, Um, and it's a really good episode, but we just wanna give you some quick warns real quick. Some real, some, some, some, some, some, uh, some stop,
Roscoes Wetsuit:some information. Real hot takes, real hot topics., Nobody Knows: I don't. But, um, we do talk about some serious stuff in this episode and we just kind of want to give you a little bit prelude that we do talk about, um, a few and stuff like that. Um, not our personal, not like personal things or anything like that, but just like, you know, the contents of the songs that you're listening to. If you listen to the Mr. Morale, um, and the big Stepper album, you kind of probably already knows some that stuff. So if you're triggered by that stuff and you don't want to hear that stuff, just want to give you a heads up that we are gonna talk about it and give some takes about. What, maybe what Kendrick Kamar was trying to say in those pieces. Yeah. If you've listened to the album, then, like, you probably already heard this, but we're giving the content wording that the actual content this is talking about didn't give you. Uh, and just in case maybe you didn't listen to this and somehow you stumble upon this video and you're like, I'm gonna take whatever these guys say, um, into consideration if ever I decide to listen to this album. Just want you to know that, you know, this is here. Um, and yeah, like that really has been a long time since, uh, this album came out. And, um, you know, there's a few, uh, like, you know, we've had a few music videos come out. Um, a lot of stuff still, Yeah. Still pretty confused about it to some extent. I know I still have a lot of questions. I think I've listened to the album a few more times. I still have a better idea, but a few more questions still. Same.
Nobody Knows:How about you? Nobody? Yeah, same. Same. So, yeah. Uh, just wanna give you this thing. We don't beat gold food. We're gonna go through, um, a lot of tracks and jump around stuff. So, you know, enjoy, enjoy the, the podcast. Um, and, um, if you like it, be a bit like to get easy, Oh, and
Roscoes Wetsuit:oh, while he's not here since he, he's gone over that way. Hey, hey. Just make sure you, uh, lick that like button and
Nobody Knows:subscribe. Hey, you're not, you're not telling to lick the like buttons, right? No. Hold on. Let's get this, let's get this, let's get this. Sh let's tap dance over to another subject. Do, do, do, do, do. Hey, Roscoe, have you heard about the guy? Do, do, do, do, do. Mr. Morale.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Mr. Morale. Yeah. I got one quick question for you. What, how big is his steps?
Nobody Knows:He has the biggest of steps. He has a whole entourage called the Big Steppers. That's how big his steps are. But you know what?
Roscoes Wetsuit:Nobody, I think I'm a fan of, uh, you know, that that new wave of rap, you know, like, you know, Kendrick Lamar's cool. But I think, um, you know, I like, I think I like that, that, that new stuff. I like that patty cake man. I like that Kodak. They don't wanna see you winning. They wanna see you when they penitent
Nobody Knows:You like that? Well, guess what, bro? Yo, one of the big stuffers. It's Kodak. What?
Roscoes Wetsuit:Black. But you know what, You know what? I've also been like, you know, trying to rebalance my shockers and you know, I've just been, I'm just been something different, man. You know? This is a guy you think from my shockers.
Nobody Knows:What about, uh, I don't know who you references, but I'm gonna say, what about old time ghost face? Old time Ghost state's where the
Roscoes Wetsuit:shocker is. All right. Yeah, yeah. Let's go. This is the anonymous thought podcast. I'm Rosco Sweatsuit here with Nobody Knows. And we're here to talk about Mr. Morale, the big stepper. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I mean, you know, we, we've talked about this before, but, um, today why I was making notes. It's spent the last two days making notes for this episode. And, um, uh, my notes span just spread out to six pages. So I am so ready, but so unorganized at the same time.
Nobody Knows:Nobody, I am barely ready, but get, we're just gonna do it live.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Usually it's the other way around. Usually you have the notes and I'm just like, I'll say whatever I want it all. It'll, everything sounds cool to be, but it's the opposite way.
Nobody Knows:today. Yeah. Um, so, so like, I guess before we go into it, how, I have two questions first. Um, but before we get into it, let's say what this is like just in case. Um, people don't know, uh, what this is, but Mr. Mo is, uh, Kendrick's Lawyer's album at this time. Um, it is supposed to be a split album. No,
Roscoes Wetsuit:this is a double album. Okay. Okay. So this album is split in to two parts.
Nobody Knows:All right. Well, let, let me, let me just let you introduce, explain this, like, what is, what is, um, big, um, Mr. Morale and the big
Roscoes Wetsuit:staffers, Mr. Morale and the Big Stepper? It's split up into two parts. It's, um, to me, I, I felt the part, like the parts that were split up in were very like, um, what's the word? Very random. I'm gonna look up the, the song thing. So, um, the song list, so I can tell you where they split up, but yeah. Uh, Mr. Morale's Mar's Fifth Studio album. Uh, it was released on May 13th, 2022. It says Last and final album on Top Dog. They recently just, um, a few, just a week ago, I think they took him off his, off their roster, um, and is now also a joint project with his new. S media group, conglomerate thing, uh, PG Lang. Yep. And, uh, you know, like, not like what's unlike most of his albums that I've, we've talked about, I think with the exclusion of dam is that this album doesn't really have a whole lot to do with Compton. And it really kind of, a lot of it seems to take places in his head. Yeah. A good amount of it or the, the, the scenes could be anywhere. You know, he's talking about things like his relationships, um, his insecurities, um, his imperfections, his grief, his stepping.
Nobody Knows:I always, I find that the tap stepping, the tap dancing, like between these, these songs like so appropriate sometimes in this thing. Its so appropriate and so hilarious to.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I'm gonna start tap dancing around my own issues. Now, whenever people start talking to me about stuff I don't wanna hear, I'm just gonna be like,
Nobody Knows:Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Stop, tap.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Dancing around the issues. No, Oh yeah. So the first 10 songs are one, Sorry. The project, I think I might be wrong. I think the first nine, I think it either ends at Purple Hearts with, uh, Summer Walker and Ghostface, or it begins with, uh, Count Me Out or for the second one. All right, like,
Nobody Knows:so let's, let's stop tap dancing around. The main thing we're probably gonna, people want to, people don't wanna see, we, we don't have any people watching. But the main thing that I think is like, the thing that is the question that's in on everyone's mind about this albums like, uh, Roscoe, what do you think this album's about? Like how would you say, like, what is it, Describe what is it about, um, what is like this thesis? This thesis of this album? If you could wrap it up.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Well, Kendrick Lamore said so much at his. It's Glastonbury Festival that the album is about imperfection. Um, and it's not just like imperfect. It's about imperfections. It's about the concept of, um, of what a savior is. Is he really the savior? Um, some of it's about him reg necessarily rejecting being a savior. Uh, it's about judgment. I think a lot of it, like, um, I don't know if you saw the, the glass and berry thing, but there's, uh, there's a part in it. Uh, this, this, um, I was about to call it a rant cuz it's like very much like a Kanye ish rant, but it's very, it's brief. So it's not like a Kanye rant where he's talking about the album and um, you know, he's got his, like, his, his $3 million crown on, he's saying like, Hey, you know, they judge you. They judge Christ. And he just repeats that a bunch of times. They judge you, they judge Christ, they judge you. They judge Christ thinking he's saying in that is like, you know, um, it's okay if they judge you because Christ was perfect and they judged him.. So people are just gonna
Nobody Knows:judge. Yeah. Um, I didn't listen to any of that stuff. Uh, like so, cuz like when we do these things, I tend to just listen to album, write down my opinion of like that's the, um, like what I think it is. And then try to like block most things out until we get to our conversation. Just start to like pollute our, uh, our discussion. Um, I don't do this all the time, but I wanted to do it with this album because like, it seemed like it had like a lot of. Like every Kendrick album had, like a lot of different texts and stuff like that. Um, but at least for me, um, when I've first like, listened to the album like a couple times, like my, what I thought was like, here, here comes a thesis. Cuz this is what I, I literally wrote this doubt on a piece of paper trying to figure out like what this album's about. And all of us, there's these fears of pain that float around inside of us. And we may know that you, we may know they're there, we may not, These fears are made up of generational tragedies, family issues, personal problems, et cetera, et cetera. Um, but they are there and there could be multiple ones. Um, um, inside of us, we have many different ways to cope with this, these fears, even though even if we're not aware of these, these. These fears in ourselves, and these fears affect your relationships around you in your real life as you cope and as you have these relationships, um, there's no real savior that can take these fears out of you. Um, and the ones that say they are is like clickable, uh, is like click bait, right? They can maybe, they can maybe help you recognize that those fears are there. They can maybe show you different ways to, um, cope or, or deal with these fears. But there, like these people can't really change the fact that there's these fears of pain in you. And the only way to break these fears or to, to, uh, like make 'em dissipate or not continue throughout like your bloodline to your kids or whatever is to like you deal with them, whether that be like through therapy, through, um, Different types of thought through, uh, leaning on to love, loved ones, forgiving yourself for giving loved ones for, for your actions and stuff like that. Um, but it ultimately comes down to like an action for you and whatever that is. Um, it, it, it, it, it, it's not about you being on the right or wrong side of history. It's about you like figuring out yourself to kind of expel this stuff. But if you do do it, you kind of like break this, this, this, uh, cycle. That's probably like, what am I'm trying to say? If you do do this correctly, you probably, uh, stop these, like fear of, of pain being pushed down to your, to your, uh, kids or loved one.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Dang. Yeah. I think you pretty much just hit, most of you hit pretty much. Almost everything. I was gonna say, I wanna like clap. Can we, I wanna, can we put in like a clap at some point in time? Like, you know, like, ah,
Nobody Knows:yeah. I wanna put in like kids saying, Yay, this dude has an opinion.
Roscoes Wetsuit:And then I'm gonna put in the, uh, the, um, ending scene to Neon Junis is even Gillian. Like, Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations. Congratulations.
Nobody Knows:Congratulations. Um, man, like, you know, like, like I say with everything I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna have this as a, a clip that I might bring in from like, other things and stuff. But like, um, I said this before, um, in like our, our, like when we talked about like, good kid Mad City, I was like, if, like the artist was right, right next to me, I can't just help feel like, it'll be like, Yo, shut the fuck up, please. You, you, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah, you'd be like, Shut the fuck up when you hear this love talking.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. And then, and then it'll be like, but it's kind of loud, you know, I'm just on the other side. I'm, I'm just, I'm just, It's a, it's a, there's only thin walls in this apartment, man. Like, I, I just, I know you guys ain't working out your shit or whatever, but it's three o'clock in the morning, my man.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. I think, I think Kendrick will be fine with it though. I, I mean, I hope I don't, I don't know. I don't know this man at all. But, you know, given the themes of this, uh, story, um, this album, I think he'd be okay with us making some imperfect or flawed opinions about it. I
Nobody Knows:mention like, uh, I mentioned that like, I think in this album, Kendrick has this opinion of like saying like, Hey, I'm tired of pretending that I, I'm trying of holding, I'm tired of holding my tongue cuz I'm worried like people are worried about me being on the right or wrong side of history or like, of saying the right or wrong things. And I think that the line where he's like, Hey, uh, I'm more, uh, cool at black. What's the lines.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I like the one, they're pro-black, but I'm more Kodak Black. Yeah. I
Nobody Knows:think, I think that line makes more sense where it's like, Hey, I don't care about, like, you know, there's a whole bunch of, we can get into this in a, in a second. Like there's a whole bunch of things about having Kodak Black on this album that people didn't like. But like for Kendrick, I think it's just like, Hey, I way more into like, um, supporting the people that I care about or saying the things I wanna say than worrying about being on the right or wrong side of history at this point in my career. Um, I don't know if he's on the right or wrong side of history or whatever. Um, I still really enjoyed this album. Um, but like, I, I think that's what I think there's some strong feed me where like, Kendrick's just kind of trying to say his truth. Um, which is very interesting when I feel like he's been doing that for a, a long time already. Nobody. Do you know what a pain body is? A a, a pain body? Yeah. What is a paintball?
Roscoes Wetsuit:So this is, um, I'm, I'm kind of deviating from like, I guess the main parts of, I guess what I was talking about, but I was gonna talk circle on this eventually, but you managed to actually have hit upon like a big sort of theme of the story and of, uh, like, I guess what part of Kendrick Lamar's, um, album. So, you know, you know how there's this, uh, you, you know how there's the German guy that's on, on all the, uh, the, the, the skits?
Nobody Knows:Yes, yes, yes. German guy. It says German things.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I mean, it could be Austria Austrian. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. But, um, yeah, you know, that, that, like the guy that's on that, his name Zach rto, is like a big spiritualist person and he has this like, um, concept of like, uh, it's what, what what he calls is a pain body. And like Kendrick Lamar tries to weave this into the, the story. And it's basically, it's not very, a very complex idea, but you kind of hit on it. So I just, I thought you had already like heard it. When you said it, but, um, I took some notes from, uh, I guess like a website. Just a quick definition. It's like, uh, a pain body is the collective manifestations of all the pain, misery, and sorrow person's ever gone through their entire life. All the things they inherited from their culture and family history as well. A person's pain body feeds and strengthens itself by making themselves and others. I thought that you had, like, heard of that concept when you were going through your thesis. No,
Nobody Knows:I am, I am ignorant.. Roscoes Wetsuit: Think about Um, what, what are you, what kind of themes would you have put on? Oh, you need some therapy,, Nobody Knows: uh, don't need therapy., Uh, uh, uh, I think, uh, wrestling with inner to, I think, um, expectations, uh, uh, placed expectations, um, by, by like media and fan base. And then I think of like some, some. Like deeply personal, um, personal issues, um, and family issues, like those last three songs, bro. Yeah. Like, uh, I think, I think, um, I think the ones that stick out to me, like, it's not even like the last three songs, it's throughout the whole album. I think Daddy Issues is a good example of this, where it's like leading into like all these, like these opinions that, um, Keri Lamar has about his dad. Um, and like how, like even with the negative, even with the negative stuff, it has shaped him into what he is, or even like, the negative and positive stuff has shaped him into these things. Like, like his dad has is has this, uh, his dad was this person. You could say he was toxic. You could say he was nontoxic. You could say like he was just preparing him for the world. But either way it has manifested into this. Um, that is Kendrick Gilmore, um, and has a great effect on him. So like, look at that. Look at, um, I don't know the name of the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the, the song, but the, the hook is like my, my, my auntie's a man now. Um, like, you know, that is like, is someone stealing with their sexuality? I think any of that song is pretty, is a pretty hard bar. I'm like, Hey, it's pretty, it's a pretty like, Hey bro, you gotta deal with these hypos. Right? Um, um, and then obviously, um, the last two, when Kendrick talks about, you know, the tomo about, um, people alleged that he was real and people not believing., Um, and like how that affected his family. Um, like I think there's, these are all like, deeply personal and deeply like emotional tomo. It's like, if I had to like put like one theme on the album's, like emotional tomo, right? Like, it's like him talking about all this emotional tomo and like how he's fixing himself or dealing with it. Um, which kind of leads into like another thing I wanna talk about, but I'll, I'll like, Do you have any thoughts?
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah, I, I kinda wanted to start at the first song. One theme that I was kind of having, I was kind of trying to figure out as I go is, is like infidelity. Yeah. And, uh, I mean, the big, the biggest part, the culmination that is like in the week, week Cry Together song, but in the first song, uh, Uniting GR is like this, uh, the part where he is talking about like the, the girl that he meets, um, on his first tour in Chicago. And, um, like, she's called Green Eyes. And, um, you know, there's this whole thing about like him, like he's talking about her and her, uh, their relationship kind of like, Like he kind of empathized with her when he was talking about like his relationship or like how her dad was in the, her brother died when, uh, he was 21. And like how they use, he's using sex, like to bury the pain away and all the different ways that he grieves. Um, but I like, well I guess the thing I was trying to figure out is like, and intended a few times is like, um, throughout the songs like that he is using this infidelity, um, and these other women for a specific reason. And I've been trying to figure out necessarily what the different reasons my, like I have a few theories about it and I have like a few lines that like kind of work to that. Um, like, you know, there's a, there's a song and there's a part of the song in the, um, uh, I forget which song. The Not Savior, It's um, Oh Mother I Sober where he is talking about like when um, he saw his like mom get physically abused that like to this day he couldn't look her in his eyes and the pain is taken over. There's the line and we cry together where. Whitney or like the lady that's playing Whitney says like, you know, somebody, you're like, somebody that didn't get much love from his mom. I see. Um, I have this southern line that I collected in the, the other song, Well, in Mother I sober again where it's like, uh, I made it home. Seven years of tour chasing manhood. And something along the lines like, all those women gave me super powers that I thought I lacked is what he's lacking. Is it manhood? Is it attention? Is it like the love that, um, he wasn't getting? Was it the care that his mom wasn't giving him in like that line? Or it's like, um, his dad, what he's saying, like his mom's saying like, um, when he's out in the streets trying to practice his ba like basketball and his dad's like, Nah, you gonna practice all day? Where she's like, um, um, can't you see that he's exhausted? And his dad's like, Go yourself. If it's like, if he gets let's up now life's gonna cost him cuz life's a,
Nobody Knows:um, Yeah, I think, I think it's hard to say. Um, I think that's an interesting part. I think there's something there. Uh, I, I, I, I, I. Him using women and for this like way to like cope and deal. I don't, I don't think, I think you have a point there. I, I would even go as far as saying like what he says off of, um, what is the, the, the, the one where he is like saying like, uh, I think I might be racist. And he starts talking about, um, all these times that he has he, like he the one worldwide sufferers. Yeah. So, so like in more watch steppers, he makes that like things where he is like saying like, he's, he's. Talking about all these accounts of like, um, meeting white, white chicks, adoring, touring and stuff like that, and like telling how he feels of when he's doing them. Um, and like, why is he doing them? And a lot of 'em come at least in, um, the way he describes it in the, at least the way I've interpreted it in the, uh, in the song was like, Yo, I am getting revenge. I am getting revenge on like this, like all the, all these, these people that have like made my community like, feel this way or like made my family like, feel this way. Where like, and the reason why I'm, I'm bringing this up was like, hey, this kind of goes along what we were saying earlier where it's like, hey, he's using, um, this, these girls or this woman in this way to just kind of like cope with this like, immense strategy that has like, you know, affected his community. So I, I think, I think it rides there too. I would like to say something about, uh, family of that family time, um, part of time, like I think it's one of my favorite, uh, versus from his album has come from that, um, And it's like, uh, daddy issues for everybody. Go get your money, son. Protect yourself. Trust nobody. Only your mom had done the, this, this made relationship seem cloudy. Never attach a done. So, so if you took likings around me, I might reject the love. Um, and then the, the other line that I liked from it was, I love my father for telling me to take off the gloves. Cause everything that he didn't want was everything I was Yeah.
Roscoes Wetsuit:That line of, I've been thinking about a, a, a bit. Cause there's a few ways you could take that, like, one way you could take that is taking off the gloves. Like, Hey, like, stop, don't stop holding back, take off the gloves. And like, the other way is like, you know, take off the gloves. Like stop fighting. Yeah. And, um, where it's like, cause everything you didn't want was everything. I was, and I, I was looking on the genius version. Like, and there, I guess one of the arguments that they had was that like, um, was that like his dad was saying, That, um, when his dad was saying like his dad wanted him to him to be like emotionless and things like that, but that's not what he is or what he believes that he is. So when his dad, like saying take off the gloves is like him freeing him. But like, there's also another, there's also another layer of that where like they said like could be taking off the gloves. Like, um, when you're committing crimes, like, or sometimes like in, uh, people wear gloves, like so they don't leave, uh, fingerprints and that could like connect to, uh, the good kid Mad City narrative where, you know, he's like saying, um, there's a few lines where he is saying like, you know, he was out there doing like crazy stuff where there was like, um, when he got a job as a security officer and then like his, him and his friends playing on robbing the. Like, you know, all the other narratives in that song. Yeah.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. And yeah, I feel like, uh, I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's, yeah, I still don't know exactly what it means from this thing, at least the way I've, like, I find like both those things. I think, like the first one I mentioned is like very, like, I just personally kind of relate where it's like, I, I feel like, um, like the steepness trucks, um, of other people sometimes, and like, it, it makes having regular relationships kind of weird and hard sometimes. Um, and like, it, it's a weird thing that comes from like, Hey, you, you gotta protect yourself and you gotta like, trust the people that you trust, but it makes it really hard to connect to anyone. And then the other thing about like the, a verse with, um, taking off the glove and everything, everything he he didn't want was everything. Like was, um, at least, at least to me, comes off of like, man, um, I don't know if anyone has faced this, but, uh, that was, that was a weird thing to say cuz I know you were past. Uh, but like, I, like, um, I know it's, it's kind of sometimes really difficult to realize that like, you, this person that you, like, you see as a father figure or, uh, is your father figure can be like very, It reminds me of like the line for fences where it's like, um, what's the line that's like, um, no one told me that I gotta like you, Right? There's no rule that says that I have to like you. What law is there? Safe. I got to like you None. Well, all right then. Um, and I feel like, like that idea of like, sometimes you have to contend that like your, your, your father or your father figure. Um, may not like you, but love you in a weird way. Um, or, or maybe it's neater, right? Maybe he doesn't love you and he doesn't like you. Right? Like, I think, I think it's just like a very interesting thing that like, I feel people have to contend with at some points outta their life. Um, depending on some certain situations where it's like, uh, where a, uh, relationship between a father and son could be like that type of weird
Roscoes Wetsuit:father time. Well, I don't know. Just think about the name. What, what does, what does the name mean about that? Is this, what does father time have to do with Kendrick Lamar and his relationship with his, his father? I don't know.
Nobody Knows:Um, maybe nobody knows. Uh, maybe, maybe it's like it leads it to like what he says like soon after that verse where it's like, um, to all my partners that figure it out without
Roscoes Wetsuit:a fodder. May your blessings be neutral to your toddlers. Yeah.
Nobody Knows:Where it's like, like regardless of this like, Men have to figure it out. Like most, like regardless of like these issues, like still kind of have to figure it out, um, and become a fodder figure yourself. Like everyone has to, like, I don't wanna say everyone has to like, turn into a fodder figure at at some point, but like a lot of people tend to do, a lot of people with these issues tend to become fodder fugs. Um, and either like kind of keeps this cycle going or like changes it for the better, right? So I think this is like where the fodder time listening where it's like this cycle of being anything new and maybe this kind of is like, I, man, this is, this is me really reaching, but like, maybe this is like a kind of like, it's kind of amod to his home farter cuz um, at least in Duckworth it kind of talks a little bit about like, um, Kendrick's dad and like his experience and like, he didn't have like the easiest life eater from at least the little I got from there.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. And he, he had, Hmm, Like, I think we had a point about like the, um, or our, I said something about to Pepa Butterfly being a, a really good transition to this album, like being the sequel, but I think Duckworth has, has a lot to do with this album as well. Mm. Like that one song, like, you know, here, here is his dad's traumas and things that his dad has gone through. Um, and here's how this has played out in Kendrick's life. Like having to deal with like, you know, the risks that his dad took to get him to Compton. Um, the risks on his life. He had to like, try to make sure that Kendrick had a good situation. Like you, there's a whole part about like, you know, Kendrick, like him, uh, like Kendrick's dad probably has to see the guy that could have killed him for a good portion of his life because that, that was Kendrick's mentor for, or Financeer, I was gonna say. Um, and there's some other lines too about, uh, Kendrick's relationship with his dad that I found.. And, um, there's a line where it says, like you, you said, I'd feel better if I just worked hard. Oh, this is, um, this is, uh, in the song and count me out. Uh, there's a line where it says something like, you said, I'd feel better if I just worked hard without lifting my head up. That made me feel, or that left me fed up. You made me worry. I won my best version. But you ignored. I was wondering if like, if like how that played to the rest of the narrative. Like he, like he wanted his, like Kendrick wanted the best version of him, like thinking that that might have been good enough, but like instead he still didn't get the recognition. Yeah. And that might not be his dad, but that to me, that like, that seemed like the most likely to be his dad. Especially with the line about like him giving advice that you should just keep working hard, keep his head down and working hard. Uh, and I don't know man, like, you know, there's still the other lines where he is saying, um, like his dad taught him not to deal with loss as well. And pretty much just like what he said to keep his head. And that's what made him what he, what he is now. Yeah. And like there's the
Nobody Knows:hoarder line that, uh, I think the, the icon line that's already been circling the internet is like a, um, what's the one with ka onya? Um, it's like the one that falls or is right before like,
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah, I got it. Daddy issues kept me competitive. That's fact. I don't give a, what's the narrative? I am that. Yeah. Um, and
Nobody Knows:then I think it goes into like, um, when Kanye and Drake got back together, I was slightly confused. Um, guess I got like more growing to do. I'm
Roscoes Wetsuit:guessing. Guess I'm not mature as I think got some healing
Nobody Knows:to do. Right. So I was like saying that, that that lead, I feel like that leads into like the stuff you were saying where it's like these things have shaped him tremendously. Um, and then still not being able to be like recognized by whoever he's talking about in his statement. But like, I think you, I think you're right. I think he's talking about his dad, um, or, or some type of father. Just to help alleviate his soul, but it didn't feel like it, it helped at all. That's on me.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Another like thing about this, the story, man, I keep calling that story. I don't know why I keep calling it a story. I said the other thing about the album is like, there's like a always seems to be a mention of people not liking his album or like people having issues with the things that he says. Um, people having issues with like, or him having issues with his own, like deviations and opinion. Um, like do you, I I guess my question to you is, uh, do you ever worry about people ha like, um, having them perfect opinion about something or being wrong or being canceled? Oh, do I ever worry
Nobody Knows:about it? Mm-hmm. like, like for me, like head happening to me? Yeah. Oh, 100%. Like even like outside of like the, the can of being canceled. Like I, I, I want to, I have this, Ooh man, kids getting into my issues. Uh, Uh, like, you know, uh, at least for portrait of my arts, like, or still something I still struggle with was like really trying to please people. Right. Um, cause like I felt like it was something that I had to do, like I had to, to do that thing. So I feel like, I feel like if, like if you just taking it back from just being like, I don't wanna get canceled, I don't want to be thing, I think you could take it a step backwards and just be like, I just kind of wanna be accepted. Um, and I feel like that is like a very realistic field just for a regular person. You can be micro cancelled anywhere, Right? Like, like I feel like at least to me, it feels like, um, searching for that acceptance, um, is, is something, is like a real fear for a lot of people. I think Kendrick Gilmar is saying like, Hey, all that, it doesn't matter. It's important for you to be genuine for the most part. And I think I, I tried to be that. If I said I'm not afraid of that stuff, I figure I'll be lying. Cuz I feel like generally everyone's like kind of afraid of
Roscoes Wetsuit:that. What'd you think about Crown for the first few listens? That was the song that I kept going back to.
Nobody Knows:Um, yeah, I, I think, I think that's true too. So what I say earlier is like, definitely a younger me felt like that is like, like, hey thing. And I think like, I struggle, I still struggle with that sometimes, but I think this like leading into what I'm not saying this leads into like, I'm trying to take up what Kendra Marva was saying or whatever, but like, um, I think like this leads into more of like my thing where it's like, Hey, you can't be everyone and every, you can't be everything for everyone at once without losing. You gotta choose me.
Roscoes Wetsuit:You gotta choose you. I, yeah, maybe that's the thing that he's dealing with his, he, we, we get, we gave him and he took up the mantle of like being everything for everybody. Like, you know, um, we kind of did expect, or we. Do expect like him to be the, I don't know, like the vo like we wait, like we waited five years to hear what he had to say. Mm-hmm.. Um, it was like, yeah, we waited five years, we waited 1,885 days, uh, while he was going through something. Um, just to hear what he had to say and uh, you know, I can imagine that would be pretty heavy. Um, I guess that that kind of goes back to the song on the Crown, like Heavy is the head that that chose to wear the Crown. And to be fair, he was the one that said, uh, he was the king of the king of the east and west coast. On one hand he juggles 'em both. So he like, I think there is a part of like him where in that song where he saying like, Oh yeah, I chose to wear this crown and I chose to like, have people wait on me. Um, and I don't really want to go too far and ahead cuz that like goes into like the last, I think the last two songs where, um, I think he's like, Like, there's a big line on there like I wanna talk about later where he's, uh, I think it's in the mirror where he says, uh, you won't grow
Nobody Knows:waiting on me. Do you think, um, fan ba the fan base in the medias, um, has put too much
Roscoes Wetsuit:on Kendrick? I mean, I think he's also said it himself that he puts too much on himself. Like, uh, a big part of the, uh, the father time is he doesn't accept losses and he has a very high expectation for himself. You know, he's willing to stay outside every day to practice his, like, uh, his basketball skills. You know, unfortunately for him, like his, his genetics weren't, weren't, weren't there on that, that level. Um,
Nobody Knows:Coasta coasts decided just debating who's blacker. Um, and then it goes into like a, a line where it's like, Oh, I'll find it and put it in somewhere here where it's like a, um, you blacked out screens, but you still found time to like tell on me. Oh,
Roscoes Wetsuit:I, I know the one. Um, sick arguing about, debating about who's black, who even blacked out screams and called it solidarity. Um, Dang. And then the, yeah, the thing is like something he made you want to
Nobody Knows:tell on me and like, I think that's like a classic thing where it's like, like, you know, all this stuff is happening and like, you know, all this stuff is crazy shit. Um, and people were like kind of looking for Kendrick to like, say something and then people, I feel like some people turned angry to being like, Why isn't Kendrick saying anything? And I think, um, this like could lean into like, you know, um, you know, some of no name comments at that time. Right. Um, who, who, uh, you know, got in a slight back and forth with j Cole with the music cues
Roscoes Wetsuit:in that tunnel. Did you find the verse in the song that's addressed to No name? There is one. I was about to bring this up cause this is, this is a, I don't know this for a fact, but it sounds like it. It's in, um, it's in
Nobody Knows:mirror. Oh, damn. I need to hear this. But
Roscoes Wetsuit:in verse three. She told me that she needed me the most. I didn't believe her. She even called me names on the post. The world can see it, jokes and gaslight mad, mad at me cause she didn't give my vote. She say, I'm trifling disregarding the way that I cope with my own vices. Maybe it's time to break it off. Run away from the culture to follow my heart. I I, there's some, there's some people that think that this is a, a line towards no name who, you know, had said a bunch of stuff on a post. Um, had like, kind of like said that like, you know, that she needed him, like she needed him and Jake Cole and all those people to like be the voice for them. And no name was mad that like, you know, you spent all this time and your songs talking about these issues, but like, when the issues are actually here according to no name, what the world needs, you both, you vanished.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. And yeah. Um, and then, uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, yeah, that would some, that's a good sum with their quote. And, um, uh, I know j Cole responded fairly quickly to the thing, and then that kind of blew up into his face. Um, but like, I think even j Cole's response was very like, I don't think it was like bad. Like, I think it was like a very interesting response where he's like, Hey, I don't, Um, I think the last line of that is like, um, okay. It was like, Hey Cole, keep doing what you're doing. I appreciate you, man. He's like, um, I don't, uh, I'm doing my, When when he said that, I felt, I figured it stole on the know I ain't, which is like, if you don't know what Stone in the Bluff is, it's uh, the movie's fake. But like, I think at a time people thought it was real because it was like, it seems so real. But it was like actually a, just a regular movie. Mm. It was like one of the first like, uh, um, found footage kind of movies and people thought it was real cuz it like showed this like really real, real and rough perspective. Um, but it's not, it's not a real story, but like, I think people even try to like open up cases for it. And it was, it was just a movie. It was all fiction of.. Yeah. Yeah. But like, yeah, I feel like, I feel like that line that Jake Cole said was like very like, um, emotionally vulnerable about like how he feels about this stuff and maybe the pressures he's dealing with. Um, but that people did not like that. Um, and then they were like, Hey, why are you bullying, uh, not bullying? Why? You're like, going at no name and like, I like no name. Um, I think even like her, the point, she made her points pretty interesting, but like, like I, I digged, I don't wanna say I digged j Cole's response. I think J Cole's response was very interesting. And I think this response is very interesting too, where it's like, like there's these so much, these expectations that people put on, um, these artists and put 'em on these pesos. And it's really hard to like reconcile with the fact that they're just as human as the other person, right? And like, instead of j Cole, j Cole or Kendrick being these voices, it's probably way more important that you are the voice, right? Like you should probably use your voice if you feel so strong in it. Waiting on these saviors because we know, um, Cole made you with Powered, but he's not your savior. Uh,
Roscoes Wetsuit:oh. Do you know when I found out about the, about that, those lines? What? So the, the LeBron line is actually an add-on. Originally it was supposed to be Kanye. Ooh. Yeah. The line was supposed to be something along the lines of like, Kanye, um, made you like, Okay to use a loud voice, but he's not your savior. Mm. He left them out because, um, I don't know, didn't want to hurt Kanye's ego
Nobody Knows:anymore. Um, I don't know. I, I found on those lines a lot, but like, I, I think those lines are very interesting. Like, I, I feel like those lines are pretty deep . Yeah. No, I think he's,
Roscoes Wetsuit:it's a good point. I still, personally, my personal opinion is I still feel a little disappointed that they didn't say anything. I know they still like, participated in protest. I still kind of wish that they did. I mean, I know they have, I know Kendrick, uh, j Cole made like that song, um, be., which is like a, to me is a really good song. Um, I don't know, I find myself still personally being disappointed and I don't think that like anything's gonna be able to really change that, that disappointment, but I'm not really gonna debate it too much. I did have like a question, like, what is the value of, like, I, I'm not even saying this ag in accusatory way. This is like legitimately, um, what is, um, is there a benefit in go grieving through Silence or like, there, there's a few points in the story where he is talking about like, you know, I've been meditating in the Valley Valley of Silence. There's a song called Silent Hill. Um, he makes a few mentions of like, you know, when he is going through things, he need a certain amount of silence. And I, I'm not sure if this is connected with any of the protest protest stuff. I'm not sure if I'm like, um, if I'm gonna try to connect this. There's, that's, that was another theme that I've been thinking about a little bit like, But does meditating silently. What, what do you think that does for a person? I think, I
Nobody Knows:think it, I think it gives them, um, it gives 'em a little bit of time to not get caught up in the slow, right? Cause you could, you could feel a certain amount of way and you could feel like, like a lot like how a lot of people ever feel, but like, only, like, only time when you're in science and like you're thinking about it by yourself. You can only like really exactly. Lean on to like what you're thinking about. You're not, um, in another presence where like, you know, it's very common for people to just be like, Yeah, sure, whatever. Like, I, I agree. Um, even if you truly do agree, right? It's just, it's like, you know, you don't have time to think about it. It's like the classic thing where you, you know, I do this a lot where like, and I know people hate what I do, where like I would start talking about something and I would pause and I'll be like, um, let me think about this for a second. And like, you and multiple other people would be, Hello. Are you still there? Right? Like, um, that pause isn't me trying to be like, Oh, I'm getting into my mind prouds and stancing figuring out stuff. But like, thinking takes a lot of time and sometimes getting like caught in the swirl. Um, doesn't really articulate your thoughts on like, so I think I get why he's like that. Like where it's like, at least for me, um, my fingers, it's like, hey, I need to do this time to think so I can actually think about the situation and like not get caught up into my, like, I don't wanna say my emotions cuz like, I think your emotional plays into it, but like, just generally like the whole crowd of thought,
Roscoes Wetsuit:if that makes sense. He said he is protecting
Nobody Knows:your soul. I have had my name's, nobody knows for a reason.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I No, I was saying like, no, I wasn't saying an accusatory, but I was saying like he's protecting his soul in the valley of silence. Is, is, is is the line. Mm-hmm.. Um, like, does that mean that he's like, Hmm. I guess, I guess here's, I think here's the personal debate that I'm one and I, I don't know if I'm taking this. Out of context, but like, and I'm not even, this isn't even like really even a, um, criticism because I do this all the time. I, I am 100 perc If I had a criticism of this, it's more so a criticism myself. But, um, yeah. I'll say this from a person of mine. The problem that I have personally with like, um, the, to some extent of like doing things in silence is like, is protecting your own soul. You're like, Okay, everything that's going on is too much right now. I just have to withdraw. And, um, if I just go home and I close the door and I, I get in my bed, I don't have to worry about the problems that are going on outside and I don't have to address the problem. You know, I'm not even saying like, that's a, that's a bad thing. I think like silence is important because silence loves you, like contemplate things. Like, especially if you're an artist, I imagine like silence is, silence is super important. Um, I don't know if you've seen that, ever seen that the, that video with like the, the caring. Got lady that with, um, with the trumpet New York where she's yelling at the, the, the trombone who's like outside the, the city or he's like outside of a building. It's like silence is the, the foundation that serves the artist when she's like yelling at this guy and like just saying like, You should quit and never do what you're doing again. And because you, you suck.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Wasn't that a dude that said that where he was like, Yeah. And it's like, it's like, Yeah, you need to shut up cuz you, And he was like saying, I know these people that practice in like real places and stuff like
Roscoes Wetsuit:that. I used to work with Bob Dylan. Yeah,
Nobody Knows:yeah, yeah. I think that's guy. Yeah. This guy was like, yeah. And it was like, I don't know, like, Yeah man, that was, that was so weird to watch. I feel like that was way more, bro. What's your personal dig on this? Like, I don't know, like what am I
Roscoes Wetsuit:trying. There he goes. It's the valley of silence.
Nobody Knows:It's not a valley. I just have a hard time thinking,
Roscoes Wetsuit:Okay, you're right. It's a little divot. It's a, it's a mo. Nobody Knows: It's old to, to hide myself. Uh, if the dude was really good, would he be upset? Like if he was playing like on an amazing, amazing level, would he be upset? But was it like him sucking at something and trying to get better at it was the thing that upset the dude? When I think, when I think about that, I don't know. Maybe this man had a pain body about his own, uh, inability to make it as a musician. Cuz he was pre, he was pro trained professionally. He was trained. Contemporarily, Oh shit. Well, yeah. But you still, I still think that's a point. Like, you know, silence is important for like, uh, being creative. Um, so I can see that, why that would be a strategy for, for, for Kendrick and maybe, Yeah, I think, I think he's not, I don't think he's like, he's wrong. I don't think, I think that he makes a good point. Like, um, yeah, these people are just people. They're not your savers and if you keep waiting on them, if you wait 1,885 days, you're not gonna grow. If you're just gonna, uh, just gonna wait for them and not try to find
Nobody Knows:your, your, this, like, that verse reminds me so much of like the, the AOP verse about cogs and
Roscoes Wetsuit:pedestals do. I was thinking about that same verse. I will, uh,
Nobody Knows:once you point out that line, I was like, Yeah, this, I remember listening to this line, I'm like, Man, that, that feels like very similar to like, at least it gave me off the same feelings where it's like, uh, Man, what is that verse called? It's
Roscoes Wetsuit:like a, that's why it's odd to see a pile of perfection, of thes in the pedestal to patronize the rest of the,
Nobody Knows:it feel like, get that, that has like a very similar tone where it's like, bro, like you can't expect me to think like, to be your savior at these that, and you shouldn't, you probably should, like work for yourself. It's like, it gives me same vibe of like De Chappelle when he said, like, when they brought out like a whole bunch of terrible shit and they brought out like jaw rule and then jaw rule said some stuff. He's like, What the, I don't fuck what jaw rule thinks, right? Like, in this moment, Right. I don't care. Right. Like, like that's, that's, that's not what I, who I wanted to like listen to. And maybe like the real thing is like there's no one to really do that. Like you, you kind of have to be that person in that, in that, in that, uh, that moment. Yeah.
Roscoes Wetsuit:And like, this wasn't expressly said, but I, I think what I think might be the conclusion of the album, um, other than like, you know, I'm not your savior. Is that like, um, maybe you can find salvation just being wrong and growing from being wrong. Um, some of like the verses I have like to back that claim up is like, um, this is a, like, part of this is just like, oh, this is also in Savior where he says like, cenic Christians say the vaccines to Mark the beast caught covid and pre Pfizers for relief. Like, you know, he, he's seen people that like ha maybe had a strong stance and then later like changed their st stance about it. Um, there's also like a verse and mirror that says like, it's not about who's right or who's wrong. Um, Evolve is the only thing that's known. I, I like, uh, I like the, the
Nobody Knows:follow on onto that verse where it's like, um, the covid burst swings, like, and then I caught Covid and then I started questioning Kyrie. Um, cause do you know Kyrie. Is that the guy at the beard? No, that's James Harding. Um, cry year's. Not a fantastic, incredible basketball player, but has really strong things stances about the co, uh, covid, um, vaccine. Um, and I think, I think, I think that was a very interesting, like, the reason why I brought up is cuz like, the same way that Kendrick might have like, looked at other, like, same way how we look at Kendrick, um, um, as like this, like this person to like think about like how you should think about issues. Um, Kendrick was probably looking at Carrie as a person to, to, uh, how, how to think about issues and then like, like, you know, the same thing happened where like his, his, his mindset changed because he was, you know, I'm trying to say. The same way, like he looked at as Kyrie as a savior or like as a, as a, whatever you wanna say. Um, once he was in the situation, his mindset has changed too. Yeah. And it's not, it's not a dig at Kyrie, like obviously one of the best basketball players, um, alive. Um, and probably gonna be put it down as like one of the best basketball players to live or play the game. Um, but like, you know, um, I, this is the reason why I think like, uh, um, Kendrick would, would see him as like a savior figure. Cuz like Kyrie Irving's definitely like his own thinker for sure. Like, he thinks in a very specific way and he doesn't give a fuck about what other people think.
Roscoes Wetsuit:You know, when you're in that situation, you have to like find your own answers.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah. I, I find this out was super interesting. One thing I just want to quick mention before you go any further and stuff like that, um, we, we talked about this, um, where we like had this conversation where, uh, we see, uh, at least, I don't wanna say we, but I'll just say my opinion and then you can add or change whatever you wanna change. Where I find like, um, um, a really strong fruit line between good kid, Mad City, pida Butterfly, and this album, and at least in my opinion, I feel like good kid Mad City was like, hey, um, like Kendrick talking about his personal perspective and interaction with his city and his personal life. So his personal issues, um, like trying to like just explain and tell people about like Compton and like what's happens and how it affected him and like how that has changed and morphed his values. Um, like my favorite verse, um, um, is that, um, on that album it's like, uh, would you get in the seat after you've seen all his skeletons in his closet and stuff like that? Um, um, and not this innocent Ken. Some now and later to eat or whatever. So like, I feel like good kid is that like starting point of like, him, like saying like, here's like the issues I have personally and with like, like my, my immediate environment, Pimp the butterfly is, uh, is another, another one. Explaining and showing those issues. But on a more larger scale of like systematic racism, how it's affected his community, how it affects everyone's community. Um, like how, um, like, um, um, I don't know the right words, so I'm just gonna say institutionalized kind of thinking has shaped people and like maybe has shaped like the way they think, like him pushing out these issues just to show everyone to be like, Hey, here's these issues and here's like a more like governmental, um, and environmental like reason how, like these issues affect me as artists, as a black man, as someone that lives in a, in a place without a lot of, lot of, a lot of opportunities. Or whatever. So, um, good kid, Man City is the personal outlook and the personal environment. Um, um, Pimp the Butterfly is talk about the issues in the environmental and like the establishment, the government, like stuff that like, are more, like bigger issues than, than just himself and his city, but like, affects it. And then I feel like Mr. Morale is like the commendation of like, Hey, here's how I'm coping with all these issues. And then it's not right or wrong, but this is how I've been coping with these other issues and here's what I think is what I'm gonna use to fix it for now.
Roscoes Wetsuit:And also the scope of it, it's like him and his family. Yeah. Him, his family and his therapist. Yeah. Um,
Nobody Knows:so yeah, I, I feel like that's like, um, I feel like this is very interesting like through line for these things. And I think what you said about duct work, you can throw that too. Um, and maybe, maybe even some of stuff from damn. Because like, damn, I don't know. Damn. Talks about some really interesting stuff too. Like one of my favorite songs that they is like, it's pretty much a skit and it's just pretty much like the song is just pretty much a, um, this dude calls up Kendra Gilmar and says like, Hey, someone killed my, like my cousin, my brother. And like, I know you're, I know you even says like, Hey, I know you're more annoy annoyed. I know you're like, you're this savior figure. Tell me what should I do? And like for the next like, two minutes, Kendrick tell like, next minute and a half or whatever is Kendrick saying like, Hey, I will be like the most terrible person ever, right? Like, I will make sure this person dies. I will be all the things that like people don't want me to be. I will, I will kill them in, in front of his church. I'll kill him in front of his kid. It doesn't matter to me. I would get my revenge. And then the ending of the song is like, Hey, I gotta go talk in this meeting real. Uh, I'll call you back. And, and then he hangs up and he's like, Hey kids, let's talk about gun, gun, gun control. And then it's like the, the, the thing's like, Dang, I think that the song's xxx.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I think you're, I, I don't, I don't know. I think you're
Nobody Knows:right. Yeah. But like, you know, so at least that's like how I, I, I see this through point or like this progressions with the albums where it's like, hey, um, presenting issues, presenting personal issues, presenting, um, bigger social issues and then way how he copes with it and deals with it. And it makes a lot of sense that the way he copes with it and deals with it is very family or focused cause it's him.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. And like, to pick up from that, like, he's also talking more about being a hypocrite. Yeah. I mean, he's been talking about being a hypocrite since 2015. Really, But I think you're right. Like that, that bar, that verse is a really interesting, like through line of him addressing, like him being imperfect. Um, you know, he's always said like, I'm not the, from the outside looking in, I'm from the inside Outm, the dead center. I'm not like some sort of like God or like anointed being, I'm just, just a regular person. Um, and yeah, he's just in general just talking about like, you know, I'm an imperfection, Um, and it's okay to be imperfect, but what, what do you think about the World Worldwide step song? That's, um, that's a song where it goes like, um, I'm a killer. He's a killer. She's a killer.
Nobody Knows:I was like, when I'm so, um, you were a do it at the end in like, some of our quotes, but I, Yeah, that's one of my, my quotes, uh, is from there, Let me pull it up. Um, one of my favorite lines from, from the albums is, is this one where it's like, uh, so what's the difference between. Your life when hiding up motivations more fatalities and, and realities brings you closure. The noble person that goes to work and prays like they supposed to slaughters people to your murders are just a bit
Roscoes Wetsuit:slower. I guess he's using murder as not a metaphor, but as a catchall to like, I mean, he might literally mean that you're part of like the, the system that murders people and like slaughters people too, but like also in the sense of like, hey, you're not imperfect The person that like goes home and like just does this job and um, goes home and prays like also contributes to like, like something that they may be, aren't necessarily a fan of in a way.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Like, like, like, Yeah. And that's totally true. And I, I feel like, like, you know, people, people will be like, Why are these kids in sweat shops and how can this shit still happen? And then they'll go to Walmart and buy a shirt for five bucks. Yeah, it's right. It's like, hey, like, you know, like, I'm not saying you have to be this person that like, gets on these, these, these mantles or these pedestals, but like to pretend that you are not a part of this system that causes this cycle is a lie. Like, and I think like that captures like, Hey, you know, normal people still have a, a net effect of hurting people too. Yeah. And, um, even if they don't see it, and
Roscoes Wetsuit:we're all trying to, like, we're all doing this to satisfy something, to like scratch some, some itch that we're trying to get. Like whether it's like, you know, I wanna fit in, I wanna wear the right stuff. I wanna like, um, have ac uh, yeah, I wanna live in a, a decent house. In a, in a safe community, you might like some of the stuff that you do, like if you really thought about it, might not. Um, pure, Like if we were handing out morality points, like this was, uh, infamous. It's not gonna be, this isn't gonna be all blue. Some of this is gonna
Nobody Knows:be red. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Like it's like, I, I, I think, yeah, I think, um, I, the reason why I like that the, the big step is, is like, it's kind of like, hey, it's like, like a lot of us are just generally in the morally gray stuff. Like cuz we live in countries, we, we eat imported foods, we, we buy things, right? Like, just because of you living in the system makes you morally gray, which doesn't make you an evil person. It's just like the more like realities of life, right? Like you, you're, um, maybe, uh, this is another catch vibe, man. We just go catch your lines. Like, uh, um, like, it's just like, uh, the shit stone, your shit doesn't stink. Right? Like, you, you know, everyone. Fault on this person degree. No one's perfect. I think, I think that goes well with the messaging of the album too, where it's like, hey, you could kind of should embrace this imperfectness and like work to be a better person. You with this imperfectness can, can you gimme more just kind of points out like to everyone, like, Hey, you guys are all not as perfect as you think you are. If you thought that way.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. You're we're all just co-defendants judging his life. Gem.
Nobody Knows:Some of that I guess like since we're, let's, let's tap dance to this one cuz this is gonna be a weird one. Uh, Koda Black, uh, thoughts of him on this
Roscoes Wetsuit:album. I'm not a hundred percent aware of all the critics or like criticism that goes on with this album. I know that there is some criticism that goes along with the choice of having Kodak. On the big stepper. And I think there's a few various different reasons though. One of them is that, um, it's just Kodak Black and like, um, we don't want this mumble rapper on this conscious rap album. I think that's one that's like the more lighter side of it. Like, why do we want this guy that's always talking about like shooting and doing drugs or whatever, like, uh, on this like conscious album. Like people didn't really see why he was on there. Um, and then two, there is like the whole other thing about, uh, you know, him going to jail. And, you know, some of the stuff that he went to jail for were like, for, I think he like assaulted a minor. Uh, he's been to jail at least three times, at least. I feel like, I feel like he's been to jail at least three times. I think so. I, I don't know for sure. I remember for a while it was like, it was like DMX when he was going in and outta jail. I was like, Oh, is Kodak Black back? It was like, yeah, you just dropped an album. Like, Oh, where is he is now he's back in jail again. Like, dang.
Nobody Knows:I think for me, um, uh, coda's not like the biggest thing, like, not the biggest thing for me on the album, as you can see from, um, my, or your posting. But like, I think this is me doing like a huge reach again. Um, but I feel like the, one of the main reasons that Ken Kendrick Lamore, Kendrick Lamore has like included this per person, um, to the album is cuz obviously cuz he likes him and he, and he wants a thing. And maybe it's just because of the kinship of like, I think. Kdot can see a lot of the same stuff. I think Kdot can see like how easily these, these roads could be, could have been, um, different, if that makes sense. Mm. Or, or it's the same. Um, I maybe like, and I think this is why I like, um, like that line about, you know, um, I like when they're pro back. I'm more Kodak like, is a thing where it's like, hey, like I, I kind of don't give a fuck about like being the right or wrong. This being right or wrong. Like, I fuck with this dude, so I'm just gonna fuck with him. Right? Like, you know, I fuck with him. I, I, I see that, I think I can easily see that Kendrick can, can have way more deeper conversation with Kodak Black that he can have with, uh, a regular like person like me and you. But with his life, I think they would have like a way more meaningful conversation and be able to connect with, and I think, I think Kdot appreciates that and wants that type of energy on this album. That's when it talks about him coping and dealing with. That is, has plugged him for his
Roscoes Wetsuit:whole career. Yeah. I mean, if you wanna have a song about imperfect, if you wanna have an album about imperfection, um, and you wanna have the perspective of someone that's talented, um, and seems to have like a very like, strong work ethic in their output. Like, I don't think you could pick a person that's better than, than Kodak Black. And that's that, that standpoint. Cuz he's been, he's on the, uh, like, he's like on that like a little Wayne trip where he's been rapping since he was a kid. Yeah.
Nobody Knows:Like, yeah. It's, it's very like this, this goes into a slightly thing where it's like, you know, a lot of these artists are, are kid celebrities in, in a weird way. Mm-hmm. And it's like crazy how sometimes we miss it. Like, you know, like Little Wade, Little Wayne, Little Wayne was like, was like extremely popular when he was. And people and like, you know, definitely I'm not endorsing all of what Lynn Wayne did, but he was 15 when he, when, when he was getting all this power and recognition and 15 from a place that was like, from a place that didn't have a lot
Roscoes Wetsuit:of opportunities. Yeah. Like even when Kodak Black came out, um, in terms of like overall nationwide celebrity, he was only 19. Um, yeah, 19 when he made, Well, uh, no even be, Yeah, he was about 19, maybe 18, 19. Oh no, he was 18 when he, uh, no flocking was released. Like he was still like, he wasn't necessarily a kid, but he wasn't necessarily an adult, but he'd been working on his craft for years. Before he like came out and like, he's got some hard lines of this, I'm not gonna lie, like the big old Ruby diamond, all my picky figure that like a ring pop, that's a hard line for someone who I love. Ring pops, bro.
Nobody Knows:That is, that is pretty fucking good. Uh, you know, hater's gonna hate, but I can't
Roscoes Wetsuit:hate on that line. Yeah. And I give, I give my hats off to anybody who raps on a, on a piano, like where there's no beats. I freaking love that junk. Or like, um, I'm the type to get my shooter whacked. I had to survive off a tuna pack, 5% tent on the whip. Like, who was that? You know? That's a hard line man.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. So, yeah, I think, yeah, like, like I was saying earlier, like, I think, like, like you were saying, like I think this is one of the reasons why you include him cuz like yeah, he's this person that has obviously has this tangent, has been working on his craft for years and stuff like that. Um, and it's, but it's not perfect. Um, which is, which is like you. A, a part of being life and, and it's, it's also like he's not perfect and he's, he's, uh, been through a lot of traumatic stuff I imagine as well. Yeah. Like, I know I'm not, I'm not, I know I'm not perfect, but I have, I can tell you for a fact I did not have the same lifestyle as Ken Gilmore when he was 14.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Nah. And there's, you know, there's that whole line on, um, it's not Crown, it's, uh, a mother, I'm sober. Like before you judge a, um, like before you judge one of these rappers by how they move, like you should learn how they cope. Like, cuz you don't know what, like, what they were feeling like when they, when they, uh, when their uncle had to walk them home from school or like, you don't know what they had to deal. Like what, what they're trying to, to chase out. Like, kinda like you, it goes back to the first song like, um, United in Grief, where like, you know these, he's saying like, we're all in United in grief. And he was, his grief was what he grieved was buying a bunch of stuff, like trying to make sure. Spending things unnecessarily. Um, having extramarital affairs. Yeah. And you, like, you don't know how these people, like these actions, the way they move might just be a way, like they show their grief and how they deal with stuff they haven't done, they haven't dealt with. And like,
Nobody Knows:uh, to, to that point, I think that's like why, like the, the future, the future told you by a, a money counter, right? It's like, it like leads into this the same thing where it's like, like there's a lot of ways that people tell you to like how to deal with it. But like, you know, it's, it's very interesting that people like, you know, um, have people deal with it and like sometimes like to deal with that grief. It's like, Hey, just stack money. Stack money until you can't stack money anymore to deal with all these pain and just say it was worth it, right? It was this pain. I had to have this pain so I could be successful. I had to have this pain to do this thing. Um, and if I don't feel terrible, I'm not a great artist or anything like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, the only reason I'm a great artist is because of all this bad shit that happened to me. Which is not necessarily true. Like they go yes and no. Like your, your, your past has effect on you. But like Kendrie is not just talented because he had a horrible life. He's talented because he put in a lot of work on fucking rapping.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. He devoted like his life to music as a way to like, to deal with some of the pain that he had. And, um, you know, I was surprised that like Genius had had an annotation of like, some of the other rappers that maybe had made the same claims or claims similar. Um, what's called, uh, Common said he, like, he started rapping, like to do like, like he had experiences, like some, uh, sexual abuse. Uh, Kevin Gates like said like he'd like started rapping because he was trying to, like, that was like a break from him, from like some of the sexual abuse that was going on in his fam life. Um, and then you have like other people like, uh, Denzel Curry and like, like we were talking about before, like lil. who had all these like, really traumatic stuff that happened in their life and, um, found various ways to grieve or to like, get past the way that they were feeling. And maybe part of like, Kendricks Kendrick's, um, story is like, hey, uh, you should see a therapist too. Um, or you should find like there's other ways to, to deal with the grief and like, I
Nobody Knows:guess like, this is the perfect thing to tap into these last songs and stuff like that. Like, yeah. What, what do you think about that song? Um, I, I would, I want to go back to like, I think it's called Anti's Diary. Um, we can go back to that one, but like, uh, I want to talk, since we're talking about that one. What do you think about that song about Kendra talking about like that experience? Um, what, what did you
Roscoes Wetsuit:feel that one is on Mother, Mother Us over?
Nobody Knows:From my understanding, I might be, I might have, I might be fucked up here cuz like, you know, I didn't do any look up yet, um, of like getting deeper in lines, but pretty much from my understanding of that four storyline is like, was he sexually abuse or did he just, what's the. What did you say? For a bit? Cause like, at least for my thought, I thought like Kendrick wasn't sexually abused by this person, but like he, uh, and he told every when he did it, but no one believed him.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. I think that's the question of the story. Like, I was having that same question and I'm not, Yeah. I've like gone back and forth on it, on like whether or not that happened or
Nobody Knows:not. Bro. Exac bro, I listened to the song like five times and every time I listened to it, I was like, like is he was, was he sexually produced or like, was he that's not believed? Or like, like what is like, I like for a song that seems so serious, Like I had to like, think about that. Um, and I still kind of don't know, like this is why I'm like thinking I like, at least from like the, the words he's saying, he say he didn't happen. But like, I don't.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah, I think what it comes down to is there is a line in one of, like towards the end of the song where he's talking about like, now I'm affected 20 years later, trauma has resurfaced, amplified. As I write this song, I shiver cuz I'm nervous. Um, I was five questioned myself alone for many years. Nothing's wrong. Just results on how them questions made me feel. Um, and that's like when he goes in the song and like parts about like seven years of like chasing manhood, um, like, and all those women gave him superpowers and like Whitney's gone by the time. Like she hears by the time you hear this song, like what was that trauma that resurfaced? Like is it him, like, is it him like realizing that like, hey, this might have happened and I just shoved this down. Is it, um, like, is that also like what the thing is like chasing manhood? Because like, I think. When I've, I've heard like a few stories of like when people like are like molested by like a, um, a woman particularly, like sometimes they, they have this thing about man, this complex around manhood where like they're like, they're taught to like, hey, that this is like, this is me being a man. Like, you know, that like, um, having sex is part of being like a man. This, uh, the thing that I did and I'm like, um, I'm the man because of this. But you're like really questioning like, am I the man or did I just get taken advantage of? So that, I was very confused on that one and I'm
Nobody Knows:still confused. Oh, like, yeah. That, that whole thing is difficult and definitely at least out by best. But like, like you were saying from at least what you're saying, um, from what I like the, the short amount of a red of, uh, of, um, Iceberg Slim. I still need to go back and finish it, but that, that like is so uncomfortable. Oh yeah. Like it's very interest. It's very interesting. Like how. That traumatic, like that traumatic, super young, his life has manifested into this like this person, um, and made him a man, quote unquote man in this very
Roscoes Wetsuit:specific way. So, back backstory
Nobody Knows:on that. Yeah. Yeah. You can go ahead cause you actually finished the book. Oh yeah. I actually finished the book , bro. Like, I, I struggle. I need to go back and finish, but it is hard, bro. That is a hard read, bro. It's like, bro, this is so fucked.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. So the story of Iceberg, Iceberg Slim is an autobiography, um, about Iceberg Slim. He is a pimp in like, I wanna say that is active and maybe like the ear early fifties to, to sixties. I could be wrong. Mm-hmm.. Um, and like a big part of the book, When it opens up, it talks about his, like it goes through his, his entire life, including from like the moment he was like born and his relationships to his mom, to the point where he decided to giving give up, um, his life of being a pimp. And he's a very smart guy, like incredibly smart. But like the first part of the, his entrance into this life is, um, one day his mom leaves him alone with hi with this woman. And, um, she ends up, um, abusing, uh, sexually abusing him. And, um, he ended up like developing this hatred. He had like one towards his mother and two towards this woman and like towards other women. And you can kind of see like how this, this hatred that he doesn't like really processed, um, affects his, his view around women. And, uh, like you see it kind of take, you see it to its conclusion. This trauma that happened early in this life with early in his life with this woman, um, led him to like, have these, I don't know, this idea to be Yeah, kind of be like the man and like he go, he went from like being a place where this woman was taking advantage of him to him going around and taking advantage of many women, multiple, as many women, multiple women get his his
Nobody Knows:hands on. Is there anything you want say about those, like closing songs? I know I'm, I'm skipping over. Um, my auntie is a, a man, Um, it's called My Auntie Starries, I believe. Which it's, I think everything is just a good song. I think it's a good song about like, just generally like how, how like the, like, you know, like, like that whole uh, process and stuff like that can be very obvious to some people and not obvious to other people. And like, I, I just find like, what I find the most interesting part of the song when it's like, Hey, I always knew this was in, in my. And it makes it very interesting of like how like, um, um, his cousin like, kind of brings that back to being like, Hey, like, uh, you know, I believe in my truth. I'm doing what I'm doing just like our auntie or whatever. Um, and I know what we did, like what you said and did when you were younger is all cool, but like, it's not, it, it's all cool and forgiven, but like, like going forward, maybe you should put some thought into like how you use that word and like what you, you deal with it, right? Because like if you just change the situation just very slightly, um, you could, uh, you could see how, how, like, this is like very impactful to me. Yeah.
Roscoes Wetsuit:There's the theme of like his own like, uh, the theme of like imperfection and flaws where you, like he's having to deal with his own hi hip hypocrisy of like, you know, he's go, he's getting offended by like this one person that like, um, I don't know if you, people that aren't aware, like there's, there was this big thing like, I wanna say it was in 2015 where this girl went on. Kendrick Lamar staged the white girl and she said, was repeating the words of this song, and one of the words of this song was, was the N word. And she said it, and Kendrick Lamar got like, kind of upset and kicked him off, kicked her off the stage. And uh, you know, that goes back to this line at the end where it's like, um, dang, I'm not gonna say that line. Nevermind . I was like, . Where, where his, his cousin is saying that like, Hey, you can say this, uh, word that I find offensive, but only if you let this white girl say, say the N word. And like he's having to, uh, deal with his hypocrisy of like him saying these words that hurt her. But um, he is unwilling to let this woman say a word that hurts him. Yeah. But it's like also the stories about him, like developing his like thoughts around the situation.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. And like, and if like one of the first people that ever, um, Showed him how to, to ride a ride was like this, this person that transitioned or transitioning or like, was not, um, regular straight or whatever. Yeah. And like it is pretty obvious for the song that, that Ken Littlemore obviously respects, respects her, him, I don't, I don't know, I don't know her pronouns or whatever, but respects her, his aunt or, or his art or whatever you want to say it.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Oh yeah. Yeah. I guess. Sorry. Oh, sorry. I was, I just, Those are two separate people. I was, Yeah, that's two,
Nobody Knows:yeah. Two separate people. Um, but yeah. Um, I guess like as the last time you close, I know we kind of hit out a lot of the quotes that we want say, but is there any other, um, lines that you wanna say that you like from this album? Cause I got one
Roscoes Wetsuit:more like, Bro, you forget. This is a, I have, I have six pages of.
Nobody Knows:Oh, shit. You still
Roscoes Wetsuit:got more, like, I'm not even gonna do all of them, man. I'm just, I got some in the chamber, right? Yeah.
Nobody Knows:All right. Put up, put up, put up your, um, your last thoughts, and then we can do our, the quote stuff. Oh,
Roscoes Wetsuit:okay. I was, Okay, let me, Okay, I got one. I have one, uh, take That is, it's too hot. I'm not gonna lie, man. It's, it's, it's too hot. Kind of California spicy. And I, I think I've been talking about this with you on and off again. I think I might have said something about this on another, on another one of our projects. Um, and another one of our videos actually. But to some extent I'm not, What I'm saying is not this, but I'm, I'm kind of saying this, I think part of this album, like the narrative of this album, um, is like about Kendrick Lamar slightly changing his political perspectives. Mm. Um, not, I, I still can't say like exactly which one it is, but like, there's a bunch of lines in it that have like, seem to suggest that he's making a, a change. Like one you have like, just go back to the end. We haven't even talked about this. But the heart part five, like, you know, there's, there's, We forgot about the heart Yeah, the heart part five. Where he is like criticizing, I guess his own, like the culture. Um, and like, or some of the, like the way he considers the negative things that it, it object defies, uh, like, you know, he's, there's a line I kept talking about, like it's lately I redirected my point of view and you won't grow waiting on me. Um, like, you know, there's lines about like, you know, there's this, everyone's worried about the struggle for the right side of history. Independent thought is like an eternal enemy. He's like, he's trying to move towards like a more independent thought about things. Uh, I think another line, think it's my last line that I have for this. Um, I'm done with the sensitive, taking it personal, done with the black and the white and belong on the right. You're hoping for chain empirics. I know the feelings and that came with burial cries. And I, I've, I've had this feeling. This shift ever since, um, I wanna say damn, and also the end of to pip a butterfly. But there's like a few lines where it's like, um, um, where he is like, he's like, uh, don't call me black no more. Um, not that he's saying like, he's not black, but he is like, um, I think he was trying to go into different, like ideas. There's the whole narrative that was very controversial in the Pickle Butterfly where he was like, Hey, the best way we deal with racism, um, is just to change ourselves. Um, like you can't, like you, like he said this at one point in an interviewer was like, How are the police gonna respect us so when we don't respect ourselves? Um, and he got a lot of shit for that. He also got a lot of shit for the song I., which is like the closing, like the, the climax song to pimp a butterfly where it's like the climax is like, Hey, you gotta love yourself. And the the jaded to view on that is like, Hey, if you love yourself, then all your problems will go away and you don't have to deal with structural racism. Um, which I'm not saying any, I'm not going anywhere near that hot plate cuz I don't, because I think that shit is too con complicated to even touch. Um, Hey man, I,
Nobody Knows:I already tapped out some weight from that . Yeah, I was
Roscoes Wetsuit:already, I I'm saying this just because like, man, I've been really thinking about this a lot. Like, is, is Kendrick becoming like a conservative was my question? Is he just like leaning more toward, like less towards, Cause that was one of the things I was a little bit worried about with him, like going like not participating in like the stuff, like the, the protest, but he was there in the protest. I think
Nobody Knows:that that, that leap is not crazy to me cuz like at least even this album, it definitely at, at the bare minimum, I think you, you have to have to a confront that Kendrick Gomar is definitely, um, He's been doing it for a long time, but like questioning his, his beliefs, uh, his relationship beliefs at least. Right. Um, like I, he's been doing that for a long time, but like, I think like if you're, if you're, if you're going to give him that, like, where he's like, Hey, this person's questioning his religious belief, I would imagine this person's que questioning his, his political beliefs as well.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. Oh, I, I missed the line. I missed the line. Or, uh, the line before that is also important. It's like, it's better if I spare your feelings and tell you the truth lately. I'll redirect to my point of view and you won't grow waiting on me. Like he's like saying like, Yo, I hate to tell you, but I'm like, I've changed the way I view the world. The intro on the heart part vibe where it's like, Hey, I've been grown through some things. I've been like, uh, growing and like everybody grows differe. I don't, Do you remember what the line was in the heart? Part five? Where it's the end where it's like, um, my views might not be your views. I realize life is perspective. Yeah. And my perspective may differ from yours.
Nobody Knows:Well, you're looking it up. Slight note. Um, that I'm gonna put in outtakes. Uh, the heart, uh, the Heart Series could make a EP by itself. It's a really good series. Uh, I don't understand how, how it's, I don't, I like it. I have a theory, a game theory that the, the Heart was a, was a, was a EP or out or album idea for Kendrick for a long time. And he just, he decided to just break it up with peaches. Cause it, it, they feel like it fits way too well. Although you could really do that for real. Like it, when you listen it to altogether, just back to back, it, it, like, it feels like a good, like structured like EP or, or mix tape, maybe even an album. But like, it just feels too, it feels like it connects too well.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. I hope they, they remaster it or they, they do some. really hardcore sweeps through it and just put it out as like, I would love to, I'd actually buy that on vinyl. I think that one actually be a really cool
Nobody Knows:project to have on vinyl. But I, um, back to finding the, the
Roscoes Wetsuit:quote , the other one, uh, quote that was in there that kind of led me thinking like his views are gravitating a little bit, where there's a, there's like a si a very small line about like Hollywood corporate and school teaching philosophies. Um, I think it's like you're either dead in or in jail. Killer, killer psychologies. To me that sounds like something off like that I would hear on like Fox News about like, Hey, Hollywood runs everything, the Hollywood Elite, um, tell you what to teach in schools. And they've like set the agenda and like, to me it just, uh, remind me of like, you know, turning on Fox News and then be like, the liberal media wants you to believe this. Um, Or like when I hear, I guess the, the conversation that was all in the while about like, um, what, what was that thing called? Uh, critical race theory. Like that was like a lot of, like some of the stuff that I heard with the criticisms on that. Yeah. Which again, this is a hot take. I'm not saying that Kendrick Lamar is like, uh, is, um, uh, yeah, is is a rocky am MAGA hat. While we're not looking, he's, he's not, I don't, I don't know this, I don't know this man at all, But that was something that like I saw, I was, I've been noticing, uh, I just wanted to bring up, cuz it's a hot take.
Nobody Knows:I figure, uh, I'll get really good Sam when he starts, when he starts, uh, he gets, he, he starts talking to Kanye. But yeah, I I don't think it's going that thing I think. But I do think like your theory, I think your theory has lights cuz I definitely think his political views might have, um, cuz at least in my opinion, his religious views have definitely shifted. Um, I think you can argue that he's not a Christian anymore. It was more clear that he was like, Leading into faith in earlier his albums. Now it's, it's probably less so, and that doesn't make him not a Christian, but like, it doesn't necessarily like, you know, it, it's, that's, that's a, that's, that's a question that only, um, Kendrick what he thinks about his Christianity or if he still a question. And I think if you're asking those questions, it's easy to start asking question about your political. Um, I, I think, I think of the big quick quote where most black people have music and religion, right. Where it's like, so I, at least in my opinion, like if you're, if one of those things can kind of say, I don't wanna say, kind of say, it could be an indicator of like, um, some other changes. Is there anything you said before we go into like our, our favorite
Roscoes Wetsuit:quotes? Nah, the hot takes of, or the hot takes are over. Okay. We, we shall, we shall see in, in uh, whatever we upload this how how much, how much, uh, uh, um, I, this,
Nobody Knows:this gar is. Hey bro, don't worry cuz like when we upload this, It'll be so long. Everything will be cold drip. Like, like, like ba like everything we upload. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's start uploading the episodes of a, of a reaction series. Buts after. It's, it's a weird, It's gone. That's a great idea. Nobody, You should just do that right now. Uh, before we go into the quotes, uh, what's your last thoughts on like, what do you think of the albums? Uh, do mind real quick. I think the album's a good album. I think it's very thoughtful, broken, um, not right, not sure what people expected from it. Um, and I'm not sure why people are so angry or like weirded out about it. It seems like another like thought piece from ke um, Lamar, um, which makes us the interesting
Roscoes Wetsuit:album. Yeah. I, I wonder if I would to enjoy this album more as if I was younger cuz you know, as you get older it's a lot harder for you to enjoy music. Um, like scientifically, like your body is like, like your ears are less able and your brain is like less tuned into that, that kind of stuff. But I really like that album. It, uh, it wasn't like this. I didn't have the same feelings about it that I had, um, about to pimp a butterfly or like Section 80, but I think I've listened to this album way more than I've listened to all of those albums combined. Uh, I definitely enjoy it, like I play some of these songs over and over again. Uh, yeah, I would definitely like, I. This album. I, I, I hate to say the word, um, but it's, it's a master piece.
Nobody Knows:Oh no. You put out the Masters in pieces. What a mad man.
Roscoes Wetsuit:I think it's an album that's gonna stand for a long time. I didn't get time to say this. I kept thinking about this while we were going through this. I was just gonna put this out. I'm not gonna try to talk too much about it, but I think that this album was, um, I don't want to, I hate to say this, but I think this album is like a, a more nuanced approach to kids on drugs. You said
Nobody Knows:your act, you said your last take was your hot take, but you made this take your hot take. What? A what a what a crazy person. Yeah.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah. Even, but like, we were jumping about this before, but like, I'm not kind of serious now. Like, Kendrick literally stole
Nobody Knows:Drake, Uh, Jake Cole's whole flow. Even the thought about the songs about cheating on his
Roscoes Wetsuit:wife. Ooh, shit. But he made a whole album out of it and then kind of like took the idea of like, um, really trying to dissect these, um, what these figures are from this. Like, like of the 20 fifteens, like the, the mumble rap era. Like you, like they both took this chance, like really tried to dissect these characters. I think Kendrick Lamar just had a, a lot longer gestation
Nobody Knows:period. Well, even though I know we only get like three views, I feel like we're gonna get a common view. Like, how dare you say something about Cole. No one's
Roscoes Wetsuit:gonna watch it to this point. That's the, that's the beautiful thing. Unless you put it, we gotta cut this up and show it. Like, this has to be on like an actual, like one of our, our cuts. So that way we can get the eye that we need. I'm, you, you know what, this is you, I've solely realized my position is on the show. What, Or in this format. I think I'm Tekashi six nine or Joe button. I'm, I'm, I make, I make very ridiculous, stupid statements and then I'm, then, then people get angry. I think it's my, I think it's my, my, my place. All right. Let's, let's
Nobody Knows:move into quotes before we close out. I said all of my quotes that I already, that I think throughout the thing, so I won't repeat 'em. The only one that I didn't say was, uh, I'm from Silent Hill. The hook, uh, pushing these off me, like pushes off me, like, is fucking hilarious to me. And it's one of my favorite quotes for this song from this album. Yeah, that's, that's, that's the only one. All the other ones I already think, like, the other ones came, I already said, I was saying like, um, from fo time, um, like from, um, Big Stepper, from Mr. Morale. Uh, actually, did I say this one? I don't think I said this one. Um, yeah, I didn't say this one either. Uh, you sh uh, you, this one's from Mr. Morale and says, You should know I'm slightly off fighting off as myself. I've been outside that are known as myself. I'm a demi god, or it's like, is so yeah, that line stuck with me too, where it's like, like, you know, like, uh, these, all these external problems are actually internal problems kind of. Yeah. And it really relates, It really relates to himself.
Roscoes Wetsuit:Yeah, I like that line too. Uh, my, my favorite lines were like, I've said it before, that you won't grow waiting on me. Like, you gotta find your own, like, answers in life. Um, I also like the line like, yeah, Tupac did. Gotta think for yourself. Think for yourself. Heroes looking for the villains to help. I like that line. Well,
Nobody Knows:we have stepped, we have, uh, big stepped all over this album. Um, and now
Roscoes Wetsuit:we're at the end. Do, do, do, do. Yep. Um, yeah. Thank you. If you have listened through this, thank you for watching. Uh, I have been Roscoe's sweatsuit at, except in Point in times when I have not been Roscoe's sweatsuit. And, uh, this guy right here has been, Nobody knows.
Nobody Knows:Yep. Nobody knows. Uh, that's how I've been, uh, all the time. But yeah. Thanks, thanks so much for watching. Um, thanks for listening to us. If you, if you have any comments about this album, What do you think? Um, well, what do you, what do you think this, uh, album is about? Or what did it mean? Um, live definitely in the comments. I'll be interested to read em and
Roscoes Wetsuit:what's your hottest
Nobody Knows:take? Yeah. What is your hot take? Cause by the time this comes out, all our takes are gonna be cold, so what's the hot take now nowadays? Um, but yeah. And yeah, I, you know, if you, um, if you're listening to this point, you know, you've, you've literally beat the algorithm, so like, you know, thanks
Roscoes Wetsuit:for doing that. And until next time, peace.