We do a deep dive discussion into the dense prosodic compositions of the written word wizard himself, Aesop Rock, in the hopes of uncovering just what it is about his arcane linking of lexemes that makes him just so... just so ..... how do you put it....$*#&$(% difficult to decipher!
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We do a deep dive discussion into the dense prosodic compositions of the written word wizard himself, Aesop Rock, in the hopes of uncovering just what it is about his arcane linking of lexemes that makes him just so... just so ..... how do you put it....$*#&$(% difficult to decipher!
If you somehow have not listened to Aesop Rock here is a link where you can buy or listen to his stuff - Aesop Rock Site
No Name Station Podcast - https://www.buzzsprout.com/1913595/share
No Name Station's Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-gQJIAVTKyNjuF2fyCnUpg
No Name Station's Twitter - https://twitter.com/NoNameStation1
Nobody Knows Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyKnows9000
Hey, hey, Roscoe.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:What's up, nobody.
Nobody Knows:Deja vu. I've been to this place before.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Deja vu, part two. We have been to this place before. This is our second time recording this after our audio was mysteriously destroyed, uh, ruined, sabotaged
Nobody Knows:I blame the goblins. They did it.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:by the, uh, , our digital audio workstation. Gods
Nobody Knows:But Roscoe Roscoe Roscoe Roscoe. Have you heard, have you heard of this guy? He's, he's, he, he might be not super well known. Probably no one heard of him. His name is Asop Rock. Have you heard of this person?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Or was he like, Lord pretty flaco Jodi with the with the box braids.
Nobody Knows:Uh, nah. Nah, he's a little different. He's a, he's a New York rapper.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Does he love bad? And that's his **** fucking problem.
Nobody Knows:Um, I don't know if it's his problem, but he seems to have a lot of problems, you know, and, and you know, you could just go, I, I think you, I should just suggest to you just go to the YouTube, type in, nuns saw pass, um, ASOP Rock and just listen to his song cuz you were totally Get on first. Try 100%. It'll be super easy. Just go, you can just go do that.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:But it's not ASAP Rocky. Right?
Nobody Knows:Absolutely not, you don't want to say that to him. He will, he will. He'll punch you in your face for doing that.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Well, ASAP Rocky's more like that with Travis Scott. Remember that there was a point in time where like people couldn't tell the difference between Travis Scott and Asop Rock?
Nobody Knows:Yeah, that was, yeah, I remember that.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I'm not gonna lie, for a while, I, I was like over a little confused.
Nobody Knows:Are you guys, you know
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:is weird cuz they look nothing alike now.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, well it would be crazy if, if a artist actually pulled that off where there's like, it's the same person but they're just pretending it's two different people.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, that, that was back when I was ignorant about all the different types of braids. Well, I'm, I'm sure I was now, cause I think I just called 'em box braids and I'm pretty sure they're not.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, they're
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:someone who's listening, one of our four subscribers is really intimately aware of the art of male braids and it's just like, no, that is the wrong braid. That's a butterfly braid. You dimwit.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Well, like, you know, hair's hair's weird, but back to the point. Yeah. What are, what are your thoughts on Asop Rock?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. I, I don't have thoughts. I have questions. And I have no answers because life is just a vacuous expanse of questions upon questions with no answers. And one, one of my questions, well, we, we know that Asop Rock, you know, is, is like a really verbose character. I, should we go into like, some kind of background story for about Asop Rock or some kind of backstory for the listeners? Or
Nobody Knows:Yeah, I
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:are we, just gonna, are we just gonna go with it? Like, , you know, who we're talking about and, and just like, if you know, you know, or do we need to like, give some kind of background backstory? Uh,
Nobody Knows:I think it's fair to give some backstory anyone that's listening to this knows who Aesop Rock is, but let's say you don't we can give like a brief backstory of, who is ESOP rock and maybe a little bit of tenure as a rapper.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Okay. Uh oh. Is the pause? Is the pause Like, Hey, you came up. Oh, sorry. Is the pause. Hey, nobody, you came up with this epi. I'm not even, nobody is the, is the pause. Hey Roscoe, you came up with this question, so you should give this biography.
Nobody Knows:you, you can, I can give it cuz mine will be super short.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Uh, let's both try to give one and then we can just cut it depending on whether or not, which one we like more.
Nobody Knows:Okay, I'll go first. I'll go first. Get a Ooh, get out the way. Ugh. Alright. Alright. I'm, I'm in front of the mic now, this digital mic. So, ASOP Brock is a New York based rapper. I would say he's fairly, uh, well respected in the rap community, especially if you, if we talk about like, backpack, not, I don't wanna say backpack, but underground or maybe alt rock, not al alt rap. He's been in the rap game for a long time now, like at least, at least 25 years, right?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:These been ignored way longer than we've been. Interested, tell you that much.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah. He has, he's been rapping for a long, long time and I, in my opinion, I think is really well respected by a lot of rappers. The, one of the biggest things people think about when they think about Asop Rock is his, uh, vocabulary, right?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:he's sort of a rapper's rapper, right?
Nobody Knows:Yeah, yeah, he's like a rapper's rapper, e even, um, Lupe Fiasco. Um, another very talented and well, respected rapper has publicly said he really likes Asop Rock stuff, and he made a whole video telling people why you should listen to more Asop Rock.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Not just why, how you should listen to Asop Rock.
Nobody Knows:true. Yeah. Right, true. Right. At least in, um, his tenured, hey has this effect. And, he's not one of these rappers that you would find on the radio for real. Like, if we're talking about like rap fans or whatever, you know, you have basic regular fans. I think you find Asop Rock once you leave that like very base level of like rap fan. Like you have to dig a little bit deeper to fond his music. And I think That's not just a thing, but just him, you know, there, I feel like this happens to, like, Lupe Faso is a good example. Earl sweatshirt's another good example where I feel like if you're listening to him, you're, you, you have kind of sought this out in a way. Like it's really hard for you just to catch him in. Like, um, like the, the way that maybe like very new or very, not super deep in fans of rap to catch these rappers cuz like, you kind of actively have to find 'em out. Like not find 'em out, actively find their music, they're not gonna show up on the radio. And I'm not trying to say like, oh, I am so dug into rap. I think I'm pretty like, okay with my rap knowledge or whatever, or like my rap game knowledge I guess. But I was like, I, you're definitely not gonna be I really find it really hard to see like someone that is not really into rap and only listens to rap on the radio, ever hearing the Aesop Rock song.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, I think that's a good example. Like, yeah, he's, he's not a rapper. You're gonna find on the radio, if you do find him on the radio, you're somewhere out in like Washington. Where, wherever you are, you're living amongst hippies and you need to, you need to leave
Nobody Knows:Yeah, right.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:A and he's not very much a mainstream rapper. He's relative, he's signed to an independent la label, Rhymesayers, uh, with, uh, I'm trying to see if there's any artist like, um,
Nobody Knows:um, atmos, um, atmospheres on there,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:yeah. Atmosphere. I was, I was gonna say Wiki, but that's not Wiki atmosphere is on there. Dang. I forget that. Uh, what's his name? Like brother something, bro, brother Red. Ah, man. You I forget some of the people that are on there, but there's, there's a lot of like, really underground artists. I think at one one point in time he was signed to, uh, LP from Run the Jules, label, and they had a big falling out. But yeah, he's, he's a New York rapper. He is very well known for his very out of Thep pocket rapping style. His use of words., he is, he is infamous for having the biggest vocabulary in hiphop. And if you actually graft it out, which there, there have been, there have actually been hiphop studies about the amount of distinct words that's words, individual different words that rappers use in their entire discography. And they, uh, have listed them on a spectrum from lowest to highest. And he is about a standard deviation past, just about every, every rapper that is relatively mainstream or relatively well known.
Nobody Knows:It's pretty crazy. Some of the words he uses in his songs, cuz like literally you, like I have gone to like dictionary.com. Like listen to one of his songs being like, I have never heard this word before.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, you, you, how do you listen to Asop Rock within dictionary?
Nobody Knows:Right. Like, it's not like, like he will fraud, like a huge multi-syllable word. Like it's nothing. And it's not like the main focus of the bar, right? Like, I gotta floss the tross, right? Like, that is not the, the main point of that bar, right?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I mean, that's not even a dictionary thing. That's like a literary reference
Nobody Knows:Yeah. But
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:a, a very obscure old short story
Nobody Knows:I think it's like, uh, I gotta floss the albatross like big daddy with what is it?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:like Daddy came with a cane.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, like Daddy King with the cane. And like, that's, that is a lit, uh, one is a literature reference, a Greek one, I believe. The other is like a pop culture reference of rap, right? Like, you, you, if you're, you already know that, who that person is. If you're a rap fan,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. Well, yeah, you have to know, you have to know like three separate things and I, I know all these distinct things and I don't really know the meaning of that actual bar is, you have to know what floss means. Like in terms of like both, like actual floss and like terms of like flossing, like flexing. I, that might be the term. I'm not sure if that's even how he's using it. Then you have to know the thing about don't shoot the al was it like, don't kill the Alba Albatross or having an albatross around your neck from the rhyme of the ancient Mariner. Then you have to know who Big Daddy Kane is, which is like an eighties, like, I think it's like an eighties rapper,
Nobody Knows:yeah. He's an eighties rapper.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:maybe, yeah, eighties, maybe seventies.
Nobody Knows:and I believe he's using flossing as the way you're saying, as like showing off and stuff like that. But like, yeah, it's a lot. Right. And I, this is like just a super calming theme throughout asop rocks, like whole, like rap career, in my opinion, where it's like, These, these, there's so many references, singular bars or a rhyme scheme, and it, it really makes it difficult to understand what's going on and it forces a lot of people to have to rewatch, re listen to his music multiple times
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:How many times do you think you've listened to a Asop Rock song in one sitting?
Nobody Knows:in one sitting.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, let's go One sitting and then like, how many times have you listened to Asop Rock song in total? Like that same song.
Nobody Knows:It doesn't have to be a specific song.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:It's gotta be one song.
Nobody Knows:I've listened to gauze at least 20 times. Um, in a sitting,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:In a sitting.
Nobody Knows:yeah, in a sitting. Um, I've listened to it cuz I was trying to think, uh, maybe not even gauze. I think, I think the better one I, cause I was trying to figure out a, a certain part of that bar. Um, there's, there's like a. And I guess like it wasn't a sitting, because I wasn't 100% focused on it, but I had it on loop on YouTube and I was just listening to it over. I, I've done that with jazz hands too where I've listening to it at least like 10 to fif 10 to 20 times just on loop while I'm just like looking stuff up and like just listening to the bar over and over again.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:That's like, that's not a normal thing for rap. Like the ob the no one sits, I'm not trying to dis asop rock, you know, he, he's just not the superior. Uh. The Superior Stone based, uh, rapper. But you're not listening to like an ASAP as, uh, an ASAP Rocky song, no matter how lyrical it is, more than three times to parse through the lyrics. Not saying he's got, like, he has really dumb lyrics. He, he doesn't, he has some pretty, he has probably he of all the, like, the, like more turnt rappers. I, oh my God, I sound so old of all. Like the more the more like high energy song based rappers, he is the most lyrical of the all.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah and like what you call you, I said like, Hey, I've listened to this like, um, 10 to 20 times of each one of these songs or whatever. And if you sat me down and you forced me to explain what's going on, there's a good chance I won't be able to do it. Right. There's a, there's a good chance I won't be able to do it. I've done this, I've tried to do this with a nun surpass too, like nun surpass. I've sat down and listened to it a whole bunch of times, and maybe cuz I am smooth brain and and small brain at the same time. Like if you tell me, if you told me, if you asked me like, well, what's known to our pass to be about, I'll say a whole bunch of vague random s****t. And I'll, I'll point at certain bars and I'll say like, I, I know this bar is about this, right? But like if you told me to explain the whole thing, I'll be like, bro, Shit. I don't know. Maybe like, like maybe it's this, but like, you know, it's, um, thing, it's hard. It's hard. Um, I don't know.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And that, that leads me to my first question. Do you think that Asop Rock when he goes and he sits down in his diner because he is a hipster like me? Oh fuck yeah. When he sits down in his D diner, cuz he is a hipster like me. Nobody. Do you think that he is first paying focus to. The lyrics in the song and the I hate, I'm not gonna say the message. Do you think he's paying attention to the lyrics of the song, or do you think he's more focused with the actual beat and the flow and the cadence that he's trying to attack on this record on his records?
Nobody Knows:I think that's it. That's a hard question. Um, Like, so I think, um, ASOP Rock has a pretty good flow. I don't think he's like crazy good. Like you, when you think of someone like JID or KDOT, like, you know, they're like, if you think of K Dots, like some of his songs and like his flow, he's able to like just flip on a dime and I think it was, I got this from a video or you told me this, where it's like he feels like a drummer, right? The way he can change his flow and move through beats and stuff like that. I don't think Asop Rock Skill of Flow is at that level. But I think he still has some movement. So I think he's able to force a lot of these unwieldy words into., a, bar because of his flow and his style. Like he has enough flow energy. Uh, I've been watching too much of the Dragon Flow Z thing, but he has enough skill to do that. But I honestly think he doesn't think about like writing, like making about the flow that much when he's thinking about it. I think he's more about thinking about the words and the general message he's trying to get across. Cuz , there's a bar that I, I remember, let, lemme see if I can find it. Cause I've been, I've been writing down some of his bars just to like, what, to prepare for this. And there's one I wanted to bring up. It's like, uh, it's from gauze. It's from gauze. The one I was been talking about. They go, the bar is like, uh, I write eight bit maps for the, so the press from the croc to in the moat in the. From the croc, from the croc in the moat to the gold in the chest. Notice I don't program an actual way to progress, to convey an effect. And , at least to me, what the way that comes off is like, he makes these albums and like songs like very heavily feelings based and stuff like that, and trying to portray some type of message. But maybe that's like not I don't wanna say it's like pointless, but it's at least it feels like it is really hard or difficult or even impossible for anyone to like really get what I'm he's saying. Or maybe it's the opposite. Maybe it's only, you only get it because it's coming. Like you're the one that's interpreted it.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I have, I mildly, I slightly disagree with you. Uh, um, nobody, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you why. And it, there's two, there is two things I've, I've managed to dig up about Asop Rock, or I've discovered as I've listened to him. And you might know some of these, but I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna relay this one of his techniques for songwriting that I've, I've, I've learned is that he, Gets a lot of his words just from scrolling through the newspaper.
Nobody Knows:Hmm.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Like at one point, this is a old, I don't know if he still uses the style, but he would get a newspaper look through like the daily, like whatever, uh, news press, like the news or the sports section or like, whatever. And he'd pick out like words and he'd try to incorporate them in, in his songs. Um, that, that, well, that, that's, that's one of the things. So I partly there's that and, um, and I'd say he, he does have a, like, I am able to, like if you tell me how to, if you told me to ask me to how, um, flow like Asop Rock or like make a song like Asop Rock, I, like I could it's Imit imitable enough where you're gonna know that I'm doing a Asop rock flow. And that's just like his base flow.
Nobody Knows:Yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And he's also got a lower voice like,
Nobody Knows:Yeah. You
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I think,
Nobody Knows:lower voice people over there.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:yeah, they're pretty lower voiced. Rappers tend to be very slow. Like B Smalls is one of the best rappers flow wise of all time, or at least the way he's credited with, but he doesn't have a very fast flow. It's, it bounces around, but it's still very slow. It's not like, um, J's jid, I don't even know. JID is like a heavy metal drum set., if you're, if we're gonna talk about rappers, like we talk about a drum, which is gonna be, I'm gonna get to later in terms of like verbal percussion, like rap as verbal percussion like JID and Eminem and Denzel Curry and Skima Slump, God to me, are more like a really high paced tribal heavy metal drum set. And Notorious B I G and uh, ASOP Rock are kind of like a. A jazz, they're a little bit more like jazz or like a basic, I say Asop Rock is like a standard alternative rock drum at like, maybe like a lower bpm. Um, but it is like a distinct, like if you ask me how it sounds like yeah, ASOP Rock saw a rock, uh, rock song kind of like drags on in a really weird way, like.
Nobody Knows:yeah, I, I agree. I agree with you. Like, like it's not like he's going super fast with these words. Like you can hear what he's saying and understand it. And yeah, I do agree that he has his own flow. And I, I do agree that it's also slower. I think those are, I do, I feel like if those things are debated, they're not heavily debated in my opinion. Right. Like, those are not, those are, they shouldn't be heavily debated. I think anything you said in that statement was pretty true.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I think he may have u may use a dictionary. I'm not sure if he uses a d I'm pretty sure he uses a dictionary, cuz I don't think you're gonna find all those big words in a, in a newspaper. But it seems like a lot there. From what I remember in his terms of his songwriting, it was very like, it was almost like a collage element to his songwriting practice.
Nobody Knows:Hmm.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And if I'm thinking about approaching a song like how Asop Rock would approach a song, like if, if someone pulled a gun to my head, like you have to find a close enough possible way that like Asop Rock approaches his songwriting and you have to use it based on like what you know about his songwriting. I guess what I'm thinking maybe the reason why he uses the different found, like he uses, found words like, I dunno, have you ever listened to like a Joji song?
Nobody Knows:Um, yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Like, like, you know how Joji has like found, um, like he has like found sounds like in, as in like the drum section, like he'll just have a random chain.
Nobody Knows:yeah. Yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Like, I don't know, I kind of see him using his words, like found words almost like that. Like they add extra texture or like an extra sort of like timing to the drums
Nobody Knows:Hmm.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:in the sense of what, how he's rapping. Like you rap in terms like of a beat. So, you know, you, you, like, each word takes up a specific amount of, uh, time in the song. Like, ha finding a random word or like this a adds, adds like a different texture in terms of like how the word sounds. And it adds different timing in terms of how the word is timed when you say it. So that, that's why I, I change, I have the. Opposite idea where I think he is more flow-based than, uh, lyric. But I definitely think he, I mean, of course, I, I think he pays attention to lyrics and tone. I'm not sure about it. In, in, uh, nun shall pass. I feel like Nun shall pass is just, I'm just gonna throw every single word on the wall, make it as dense as possible.
Nobody Knows:what's it called? It is like, uh, flash that buttery gold, just jittery, zeit.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:zeitgeist
Nobody Knows:It's like,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:by the watering hole, what a
Nobody Knows:is like, bro, it is like, bro, we, this is only three bars that we getting, we getting, uh, a bit much. Uh, but yeah, I
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And that flow is, I think that flow is pretty close to, to JID level.
Nobody Knows:and I think, yeah, that's an example of like, , , he has the skill to like, to maneuver these words into his bar., he will change up flows to do it., but I do agree you, his base flow is like, this like the deeper voice, slower flow. And I think it also makes it feel like bars are longer than they actually are because , his flow is so like slow., sometimes a two bar thing seems longer somehow.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Because them words.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, because it's those words., I know we disagree here, but like, you know, kind of this is a thing to throw out to the audience and everyone, , we don't know Asop Rock. If Asop Rock was listening to this, he would probably say, shut the fuck up. You guys don't know what you're talking about, or whatever. But like, you know, we we're not saying we know 'em or anything like that, we're just thinking our thoughts and these are just generally our opinions, but
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:He is the most en enigmatic rapper of all time
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:next to MF Doom.
Nobody Knows:yeah, , I agree with you. Like, like I was gonna make that point real quick, where it's like, yeah, like, I think , the reason why, um, we can have so much braid on the speculation, with this stuff is because Asop only really interacts with his fans through his music in this d and age, right?, there are not a lot of interviews of him. There are not a lot of , Things of him just talking to people. Like he kind of only interacts with his fans through the music., that's the main interface that people see him through.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Perhaps it's because he doesn't like shit and he doesn't go outside.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. He's taking, taking cues from, uh, Earl., but yeah, and that's like, you know, that's, that's, I'm not saying this is like uncommon, like I don't like other rapper, other rappers, other musicians do the same thing, but like in this d and age, it's uh, it's just very, you know, interesting that, that, that people do that.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Especially in a, in a genre that today and even in the past has been so based on braggadocio and, uh, image and money and status. Like when, have you ever seen,, Aesop Rock not dressed like a hobo or, or a baseball player?
Nobody Knows:I start, I started thinking about it. It is like, Bad. Yeah, man, every time I see that dude, he's, he's, he's rocking that hobo drip, but , I can't really flame, I can't really, um, like flame him for that because I do the same thing. Like, but like, yeah, he's very big. But he, he said this before, right? Like he, he said there was a point in his career where he, he wanted to just like, kind of stop, uh, talking about himself., I think he even mentions it on rogue wave, like, let me see if I can find the lyric real quick.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I, I think I remember the interview. I th I think it might have been in that earth open mic eagle interview where he said something on terms of , he, yeah, he got so tired of , the sort of like braggadocio and the, and like this is who I am and having to talk about himself in the first person. And he just got tired of, , talking about himself. And then he started becoming more, uh, I don't know, enigmatic, well, he was already enigmatic before, but he started using terms of like telling stories that are layered. In the sense that they do relate to his life, but they're also obscured by, , the story of the, the song. And he started using more, more second, more third person perspectives in his songs.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, like there's tons of songs with ASAP Rock where it's like, it's, it is obviously relating to him, but he's like, it'll be, it'll be like the kid or, uh, like another, like neutral term instead of talking about himself., there's a whole album called The Impossible Kid, which I feel it's more of a reflection on him than anything else.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:do you, that's probably his most personal album though.
Nobody Knows:The barer I was looking for is, um, it's from Rogue Wave and it's like I'm a cancer on the glamour. I can't, with the, me, me, me,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:You saw my cancer on a GL
Nobody Knows:I'm, I'm a, I'm, I'm a cancer on the glamour. I can't with the me, me, me.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Man. Oh God, man. That's.
, Nobody Knows:and this kind of leads into one of my questions is like, when you think of Asop Rock, what do you think about? What do you image? Because at least every time we do one of these, , these random talks on artists, I like you, to my opinion. I only feel comfortable about talking about it until when I get like an image of , this is how I image this rapper or this artist. Um, I can go first with like my image of Asop Rock. Um, but do you want to, or do you want me to go or do you wanna go first?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I can't not imagine him either at a b , anywhere other than at a baseball game in a cafe or working at a tattoo parlor
Nobody Knows:Those are, those are pretty good guests.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:and like, talk, talk. I feel like , he's the type of person, well, he, he's said it himself. He's, he's spent a lot of years making friends with cool artists. Like he's, he's hanging out with tattoo artist and like, , visual artist. Um, I don't think he really is around musicians a lot. I think he said that himself in interview, in interviews as well. What, what do you think? Um,
Nobody Knows:Yeah. For me, I, when I imagine like Asop rock, I think of like a wall of text that's like oozing emotion somehow.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:It's the, it's just the giant Star Wars text that goes down the screen.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. It's just, it's just that, but it's still. Very, like, emotional in a weird way. Maybe the, the texts are like different sizes and they're not uniform or whatever, but like, it just feels more alive than just , a wall of texts. And when I see his work or listen to his work, that's what I, I I feel a lot where it's like, I'm getting thrown so much information at once and so many like big words, but the feeling behind it still feels real. And then when I, you know, like we we're probably gonna talk about this more a little bit, but like, , you would, you would listen to a Asop Rock song, walk away from It, listen to it again, and come back with like a totally different experience from it., or , you find that one bar that really, gets you or makes you like, think about the whole work, , in general. And it was Snow Me a bar that you kind of just completely, , skipped or just didn't hear on the first go around.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, there's sort of an an active participation that you have to have when you're listening to a Asop Rock song that is like, it's a continuous prac practice. It's like you, you don't just actively listen one time. You have to actively listen every time you li or, I mean, you don't have to, but if you wanna get more out of it, you actually have to give an effort.
, Nobody Knows:I think of Clutz and Shrunk, like I've listened to Clutz and Shrunk when I was younger, like in high school and Shrunk and Clutz. I was like, oh, they're okay, but I don't really get it. It's not really great. And now me listening to 'em o not even like because I'm older, but I'm just, I think I'm just listening, trying to like understand more of it. Like some of the bars I get from it is like, bro, that's some deep shit. At least maybe to me, you know what I'm saying?, I think of like, uh, shrieking to the vacuum and in spite of your accomplishment, you wake up, , empty, like Houdini's grave probably is. That's just pretty fucking deep in my
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. Yeah.
Nobody Knows:And then it's like, you know, obviously the, uh, I've been ignored way longer than you've been interested. And like you, you find all these, these, like these bars another one I got from Klutz was like, , sometimes the stomach disappears from under a retreating lens and patterns of a need to please abuse a folk reveal themself.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:It is just, you don't even have to put it in in a wrap. Like you could just, you could just throw it in a poetry book. You could just take, if I took an Asop Rocks album and I shoved it into like a book form and I sold it, people would just think it was a, it was a poem that kind of rhymed.
Nobody Knows:yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I agree. Um, And like, I know we're giving like a whole bunch of praise and stuff like that, but like, at least to me, I think this is more of like maybe Asop. I don't think Asop thinks this., but I don't speak for Asop. I don't, I don't know this person at all, but like, at least to me, his music feels very down to earth and personal. Even though there's this layer of it that is super hard, like, has, has a super high, uh, level of e um, entry, like buried to entry. A lot of people just don't get do it. Like, don't, don't listen to his songs. But like the stuff he's talking about and the way he's portraying it is pretty like chill and down to earth and , and he has songs that are just easy to understand and just random, like long-legged Larry, right., like Kirby, right? That are just, I don't know, Kirby has some, some big syllables in it, but like about simple, nice things., and I think some Asop Rock fans, I don't want, I don't wanna say get a superiority complex. But it might be that, maybe like a superiority compact where they're like, oh yeah, I'm a asop rock listener, and, I'm a genius cause I'm able to break down these lines and stuff like that. I guess, I guess what I'm trying to say, I don't think you need to be a genius to like, break down Asop rock stuff. I think you just need to listen to it more, more than most other art, more than most other rap songs., and if you're, if you're actively searching, if you're doubting this layer already, you're probably gonna do that. You're probably doing this with rap already, if that makes sense. Like you don't need to be a genius to break down Asop rock stuff. Some fans , may try to like exclude people because of that. You know what I'm trying to say? You know, you kind of get, get my feeling.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:you don't need to be smart to go into an Asop Rock song, but you will come out smarter. The more effort you put into , trying to understand it., I don't think you, you can't come out of an Asop rock song. Not more culturally well-versed and, , not having a little bit more of an understanding about,, about your own human condition
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, yeah. And I feel like, I feel like some, some of his, some fans may, may throw, , a bit of , exclusive. Exclusive, you know what I'm trying to say? What's the word I'm looking
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:exclusivity.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Exclusivity., like that kind of poetry around where it's like you, you just don't understand it. You shouldn't leave and try, you know, you're not, you're not, obviously, you're obviously not, don't have a PhD in board rapping literature., so you shouldn't even try to like, come up with a, meeting to this bar, right? Like, he's like, oh, you're obviously dumb cuz I've, I've have a PhD in index. I don't think you need all that. I think,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Bro. That's really how poetry is though. It's like, it's like, bro, I think this is just a bad poem. It's like, no, you don't understand it. You don't have the, the skill to understand how it was constructed. Like, I'm not, I mean, I understand that, but it's, fuck, it's boring.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Right. And like, I think, I think sometimes,, people can be that way where it's like, oh, if you don't, if you don't, if you disagree with the, the way the meaning of one of Asop rock songs is, it's like, oh no, you're, it's, you're just not well educated enough to get all the references,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. There's, there's people that will, that will hide behind technique or like, um, their own knowledge about something to, try to hide behind the, like, say, say that it's good or not.
Nobody Knows:Yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:But I say that and I am the exact person that does that. I say this, I know this because I do this all the time.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. And you know, I'm not, And, um, and I know, some people don't like, ASAP Rock and doesn't like his music and stuff like that, and like, you know, that's their prerogative. I don't think I, I think the,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:you really know people that don't like Asop Rock? Do you know people that don't like Asop Rock or just literally don't know who he is?
Nobody Knows:yeah, I think that's the thing. I think that's the thing. A lot of people just don't know who he
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, I think it would if you, , if you took the time to find Asop Rock., I have a hard time like
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Believing that you, you don't
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. You not liking him unless you're just like, I don't think he's a good rapper. I think he's just very verbose and he's just saying a bunch of stuff.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. But, yeah. But, you know, I don't know this, this kind of, this kind of leads into another question I have. What a, about communication, but do you have any more questions before I, I go into that?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:No, I think your question actually goes into my, my some more of my stuff.
Nobody Knows:Okay. Well, like, so, you know, we are, I, I guess we're nearing the end of this era, but like, um, I don't know, I, I've still, I, I think it still has legs and it's interesting., but we're ending the, we're near the end of the quote unquote mumble wrap, , era, or maybe not near the end, but they, there was a huge boom of quote unquote mumble ma rappers that used to that, , rode a big wave of SoundCloud and stuff like that. A lot of those, , those rappers are not as prevalent anymore, so that's why I'm just saying , it's probably near its end , of that labeling or whatever. And a lot of, a lot of, uh, reasons why a lot of people didn't like that error or had a lot of things to say about that error was, or this error or whatever, uh, is. Generally, normally it normally leads on this idea of communication where it's like they're not saying anything and , they're you, you can't understand what they're saying. And I was like, thinking about this and I was like, I listened to a whole bunch of Asop rock songs, and I know he's saying like words and stuff like that. I, I know the words he's saying, but I don't understand them. Right.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I know you're saying words, but I'm having a seizure right now.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Like it takes a lot of effort on my part to understand what he's saying. And when, when I do understand it, I think I come out like really happy cuz like the, the song becomes deeper to me. But like, it, it, it begs a question to me about , this idea of , communication and rap, right? Like, um, we put a lot of weight on this communication aspect. I guess it's, it is based, this is kind of based off a quote that you said, I think you said like, is, uh, is, is, uh, ISOP Brock the greatest mumble rapper of all time? Like the most, uh, the most vocabulary or whatever.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:That's what I was, that's what I was getting to. Oh, I was actually gonna go there. Yeah. Uh, that's, uh, yeah, I, I imagine, yeah, when I think about that, the, the study, or when I think about , the graph of writers, when I think about the graph of rappers who, , use the most and the least words, I also imagine this , you could also have a similar spectrum of rappers who are the least and most communicative. And I think there's this point where the line, it's not all, it's not a straight line. You're, you're singing two dimensions and it's actually a circle. And that circle begins and ends with Playboy, Cardi, and an asop rock. Like you get on one side where you are, where you have one side where you're just not. I mean, I don't wanna say this about Playboy cuz I really, I'm actually, I really, I'm a Playboy Cardi fan. And you know what? I low key feel like he drops, he drops interesting and interesting things. But that's, I think I'm just trying to read into it. But you have, you have one hand, uh, someone who doesn't really say a whole lot or isn't really trying to be understood and uses a very minimal vocabulary and only really, um, heavily relies upon his timing and his, uh, flow and patterns. And then you have another opposite side that uses every word imaginable. And I know to me seems like the biggest thing that I can pay attention to , is flow. But like, I, I'm not necessarily, I don't necessarily always listen to Asop rock songs for. What are you saying? Sometimes I'll just turn it on. I'm just like, wow, the audio on this is trash. Like on , what is it called? Is it Demon Days or what was it? What is, what is it the album called?
, Nobody Knows:is it bazooka tube?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I think Zuka Truth might actually not be that bad. The audio might, I think I was thinking of , the one that I'm thinking of.
Nobody Knows:Is it,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:it's some where it's like, it's like gray and black, like it's like kind of monochrome and it's got like red lettering on. I'm gonna, I'm
Nobody Knows:um, are you talking about like float?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:no, I'm going., I think it's Labor Days,
Nobody Knows:Mm-hmm.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:but uh, or it might be Bazooka two. It's one of those albums where it's like the audio here is almost unlistenable. I can't really hear anything, but I hear, I hear his flow and his flow is super interesting and I can hear the hook and the hookah suit is, Uh, clever. And I'm hearing every once in a while I'll hear like, that's a big word and oh, that's another big word. And oh, that's a full, , coherent sentence. Like we go on this whole, the other side where like, , the interesting thing is like the pattern that he uses, but also like you could listen and you could find some meaning to it, but I feel like you circle around where like you, no one really knows what Asop Rock is always is talking about in every single song. And if you say you understand what he's talking about in every single song, on every single album, you are a liar and you are just listening to some songs just passively. And I feel like there's, that, that's the same sort of, , way that , I listen to mumble rappers.
Nobody Knows:That kind of leads into what I've been doing. So like, when I've been listening to these songs, I've been going out and like the, especially the ones that I like, been going out and just saying , oh, what does this mean? Maybe I can get more deep thing. And I, I least I know I, , from me going through this process, I have assigned meeting , to these lyrics. Um, and I think, and I think it made the song cooler to me, but I went on, rap genius and um, and other stuff or whatever and like, you know, People just disagreed , and like, like like people were just like, bro, no, like voted. And it is the one that, that is co memorable to me. It's like some dude put up, his like thoughts on the, on this bar, this one bar. And then he went back and put addendums on that same like bar because he was like, I came back and I've learned more stuff and put it there. And then it's still like in the comments, people were like, bro, this didn't make sense. You, you have this wrong. It's about this and stuff like that. And it's, kind of crazy how that, that debate sparks,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, I was listening to, um, when we were last, doing the last version of this podcast, I was listening to, um, one of, I was listening to one of his albums, uh, man, shoot, I forget which album. What album is this? This is like, what, what's his most famous album?
Nobody Knows:um,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:where, uh, nun, well, I was listening to Nun Shall Pass. I first, I tried to listen to the album and I was like, I have no idea what's going on here. So , I looked, yeah, I looked it up on Genius. And , they have a little description on each song, what it's about. And they just be saying stuff and I'm like, are you sure? Like, I'm listening to song, I'm hearing what you're saying, what this is about, but , I don't. Like somehow this song where I have no idea what he's saying about is a, is a scathing, is a scathing criticism on, neo industrial capitalism. But it really sounds like he's talking about his dog dying, which , it, he could be a metaphor , for capitalism. But I, I feel like that's kind of a crutch of every, everything is kind of a, a criticism on capitalism. If you, , if you think about it sometimes, I don't know, I think I just threw that out there, but I feel like most things you could just say, , this is him. This is this artist critiquing capitalism.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, and . It's like one of those, , I don't wanna say buzzwords, but it, it sometimes could come off like one of those buzzwords where it is , like when someone says , blockchain, we're using blockchain technology and we're using like, uh, military encryption, right?, that's , yes, those things exist and , they're cool and stuff like that, but the way you're using them are basically meaningless and could be extended to everything, right? Like anytime you go on a website and there's that green lock sign, you are using military encryption, my friend, cuz it's an encryption that everyone uses, right? You're, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can ascribe, you can scribe certain type of like, uh, things to that I guess. But, um,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:If I, if I buy a, if I buy a candy bar and I make a song about how the candy bar is too high like , that could be a, that. If I just have a line about candy bars being too expensive, that is a criticism on capitalism.
Nobody Knows:a scathing one too.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yes.
, Nobody Knows:but yeah, , I, I think like, in my opinion , ASOP rocks stuff is worth looking into and going and like doing this like kind of deep diving. Cuz to me his writings does once you under or once you get an understanding of what the bar means, maybe you're wrong, maybe you disagree with most other people or whatever. But once you do, his music fuels even more. Uh, good. And I feel like you can do that multiple times in the same song. You can like go to a song, listen to it passively, don't care about it, go back to it. Listen to it passively. One of the bars stick out, look into it like, oh, that's a really cool metaphor for this, or understanding of this or whatever. Um, and then you, you leave it again, go back to the same song and grab that and then grab a whole nother like bar and do the same thing where you're like, oh, this is another cool bar in this song that I've listened to. All together maybe like 20 or 30 times., and some of it was just purely passively, right? And I never even really like really noticed this bar until this moment. And it kind of makes me, like, when I think about it, I think of it like a, uh, a building, like a lot of asop rocks., music is like a fancy, a weird like hipster building. Like not even hipster building, like, like a billionaire's building, right? The main difference between like him, , his building and like, um, I guess like what mumble rap kind of building, at least to me would be like Asop broadcast is cool building. It's really hard to understand. It's messed up and, and crazy in different ways, but the structure of it is solid so you can actually explore and feel like you're getting stuff out of it. Right. You don't feel like this thing is just gonna topple down on itself because it's all meaningless. And even if, even when his bars are like, , portraying that, that kind of thing is like everything's meaningless or whatever, or everything's depressing. But I feel like what happened with mumble rap is like they have the same, a similar type of building that's super cool to, explore and it examined, but like it's all, it's not built on a thought, a strong foundation. So a lot of the songs tend to die over time. Like people get, are not super interested in the song anymore because there's not enough things to pull out of it that are like, that enhance the building. And I'm not saying all mama raps do that, I'm just saying , this is like more of a general for Argumented for, and like the reason why I'm saying both these, , these building, , these buildings are like super cool and complicated. And I think it's like , that's supposed to represent , the barrier of entry , of the language, right? Both Asop Rock and a lot of mumble rappers have a high barrier of entry to like, enjoy their music. You have to like, you either have to put in more effort or give up something , to enjoy their music. And once you do or once you do either one of those things, people tend to grab more stuff out of it.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:What rappers do you think of immediately when, if I tell you to think of some rappers that fit alongside Aesop Rock, who do you think of?
Nobody Knows:Luco
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Right? Who else?
Nobody Knows:girl sweatshirt.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Gimme, gimme about two more if you can.
Nobody Knows:Oh, geez, man, this, this hard. Um,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Would you put MF Doom in there?
Nobody Knows:yo Oh fuck. How did I miss that? Yes, MF Dub. I got another person where I listen to and shit was like, I don't know what's going on here. Um, some of Andre 3000 stuff.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Okay. Do you want something? I've noticed,
Nobody Knows:What?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I, I, when I think about that too, I never think of Eminem. I never think of Mac Miller. I never think of logic. I, it is, I, I don't know. That's, I don't know if what that means, but , he, I think he's the one of the few, he's the, he's , I don't know. I only, I only think of him in terms of his skill. I mean, I'm never, like, I, I, when we, we've had this whole conversation, we've talked for about almost an hour, and I'm gonna try to keep it this, uh, under an hour for both of our editing sanity, but, or maybe we can go, we can go over like one hour and five or 10 minutes and probably be able to cut it down a bit. But like what, we've had this whole conversation for about an hour and we have not, like even when we were get, we both gave bios. None of us mentioned that., oh, yeah, , he's a rapper who also happens to be white,
Nobody Knows:Oh yeah. He's a white rapper. I forgot to mention that.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:bro. I saw a whole video where, uh, the, I think the title of it was like, , ASOP Rock is a Black King. Like, and then people were like, were listening to song like, oh, they, they legitimately like, thought he was black.
Nobody Knows:Nah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And they were like, this is the example of a, of a black king really, who really studies and, and shows improve improvement. And he's like, it was, it was like some hotep stuff and it was hilarious.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, I don't think of that. I don't think of that. I think of, of, uh, think of a skill. I think of a skill., and like, and his subject matter is not typical like rap, subject matter.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:No, it's not.
Nobody Knows:yeah, and that's not a damaged thing, but I'm saying like, in the zeitgeist, like, you know, some of, like his, one of his most influential songs, , like Shrunk, right? Is about going to therapy, right? And like, the feelings and, um, the emotion that blows up trying to go, , I think my favorite line is like, uh, Paying to filet yourself and others in the name of help? Yeah, it is like in , a lot of his songs are on these like very more personal and rebel kind of wavelengths., that, , still like happens in rap but are definitely different from like J Cole or Kdot., it's a different vibe., cuz they, they have different experience.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, his first song on, , the Impossible Kid is kind of a song about the educational system.
Nobody Knows:Yeah,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:And how it, how it affected him and, and, uh, made him lose his interest in the things that he cared about.
Nobody Knows:yeah. You're talking about rings.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, I'm talking about rings. Get off the car. Race is just about him accepting, you know, that his, his friend died from that. His friend was dead and like how he was trying to move on. Like he has songs that are more songs than raps to me.
Nobody Knows:Like I think between both of us, I think Get Off the Car is one of, at least one of my standout songs, , for Asop Rock. When , if someone asked me to, Hey, I want to, I want to get start listening to Asop Rock, I'd probably gonna recommend them listening to Get Out the Car. And it is a short, , two minute song that feels so fucking impactful to me. Right? Like, there's so many good lines in it. I think we've talked about this in the other podcast too, but , that last line of , um, I, I'm, I'm blanking on it. Let me, let me think.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Knowing ain't half the bail, it's bullshit. Quit bur to buy some asshole. You can still be who you are and still sit around. No, you can still own who you are and still sit around stone in your car not doing shit
Nobody Knows:shit halfway to n Cranky and waiting for a bo a Boss key and a a hat
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:of bills.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Get out the car. He, yeah. I think that's a, a super deep. Lying like a super deep line and like, you know, it made me think about my life. Right, right. Like, like, um, and like even like the other one where it's like, um, how's that bay? But they just won't stay. True. Friendship, like a tugboat way, right? At least to me, I think a lot of times I sit down, look at ESOP spars and then they come back actually like kind of thinking about my life, right? And other rappers have done that too. J Cole k dot, , recently, Denzel Curry, right?, but like, uh, ASOP, , the reason why I feel it's weirder is cuz it, it feels like it's coming out of , a study, right? Like you studied a book and then you're, the book's actually affected you with your real life.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah, I think, I think we've reached a good point where we can start, like winding down, but I, I think the best way we could, start closing this off is like just, uh, , me asking you, uh, what is your, what is your favorite ESOP rock verse? And it could just, it could be one of the ones you picked.
Nobody Knows:Oh damn. Um, let me think. Uh, what is my favorite verse? It's probably jazz hands. Cause I've been listening to a lot. I think there's two off of jazz hands. It's not my favorite. It's probably my favorite's. Probably the one we just mentioned with the last first of, uh, get Out the car. But I've been ready to dig, digging this line in jazz hand, where it's like, let me look it up real quick. Gimme a second. I step in the room, split an arrow with an arrow. The first trick shot is just to show 'em that I dabble. I will not be aiming at the apple. Lately, I've been treating every interaction like a living wake, thanking people close to me before the pip, before the pip photo pixelate new day folks down to play the game. Different change, and going from being chased f to playing chicken.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Okay. Hmm.
Nobody Knows:Um, there's also another good one off of that. One that's like a new superpower that I picked up in the frenzy. I could draw a roof on fire from memory each and every step's. Another bud letting,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Hmm. Yeah, those are, those are pretty good. Um, we both have, ki said that the car, um, get outta the car is probably that, that's my favorite song. But next second to that is, , hot Dogs, which is just a single, it's not, it's not even album. Uh, there's one, uh, verse on there that I think about and I reference a lot. Um, and it, it, it has kind of affected my worldview and I'll, and , for better or for worse. And it's, um, it goes where spiders eat their mothers. When rodents eat their young, I'm not here to make sense where there is none that's dumb., which is just a really simple line. It's like his most, one of his most simple songs. But to me, I, I think about that. Like, uh, it's, that song is really packed with a lot of, uh, Things to say, like if you observe it. And that was like a, a bar that I, I think about
Nobody Knows:Are you, are you kind of like dating? Are you kind of like dating? Uh, mor moron.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah. Yeah. Probably. I don't, I don't even know who that is, but I was probably Right.
Nobody Knows:You should work on that. Uh,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Why should I be.
Nobody Knows:uh, uh, another one I like, , maybe, cause I've been listening to Gods a lot. Um, there's this, there's this pair of verses that like, was like, um, I'm all good. Quietly hacking away at the hideous riff on the formula. What is the work if it isn't a ticket to slip into vivid euphoria? Euphoria, huh. And then like later on in the, the song, it's like actively seeking to under develop his, his sentiment, his sentimentality. Why am I here if it isn't effectively cutting the hellions out of me?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Man. That's a good, that's a good verse.
Nobody Knows:and like, and like how those two things pair, right? Because it's all talking about like this craft that he's working on.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Hmm.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. You know, if you, uh, if you like, uh, you, if you're listening to this, you just go, listen to Asop Rock.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah.
Nobody Knows:Go, go. Give him a try.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Do you, uh,
Nobody Knows:your dictionary ready.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:do you have an album recommendation
Nobody Knows:Um,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:you had to give them the intro album
Nobody Knows:I, I would, I would say impossible kid. I, I think, uh , the ma the Berry kit, what's it called?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:and pause? Um, Malibu can, yeah. Okay. So let's, let's give three, three progression albums. So your first would be asap, um, impossible Kid as an intro. Malibu Ken.
Nobody Knows:Um, I think you should listen to Float.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Okay.
Nobody Knows:I think you should listen to Float.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:yeah, I, I'd start off with a possible kid, then I'd say, uh, nun shall pass.
Nobody Knows:Ooh, that's a big,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I think just to get a full scope, uh, just go straight into, into it. And then I'd probably say, I'd probably get , the spirit guide thing if it wasn't so long.
Nobody Knows:yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Or No, what, what's his, the newest one? What's the newest, newest one?
Nobody Knows:uh, garbology, that's, uh, where
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:I'd go to, you want split that, shift that cha swap out Garbology. And then go to, uh, nun shall pass.
Nobody Knows:Okay. Yeah., but yeah, if you're listening to it, , tell us your thoughts. What do you think about Asop Rock? I think, um, and Roscoe agree that, uh, he's a pretty cool artist you should check out. And, , it's super interesting., I think he, he, he pairs nicely to probably who we're gonna cover next, which is probably Lupe Fiasco. Right.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Or are we gonna do it? Are we gonna do it for real?
Nobody Knows:I
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:You promise
Nobody Knows:man, I, I'm gonna, I, I have to, I have to go get so many notes. It's
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:you're gonna regret this so heavily?
Nobody Knows:I'm gonna be like, why is the, why is this, why is this kid turning into a zombie and the hood and also flying? When, why are we just kicking and pushing?
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Why is this project house , a mega sword?
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Right. Um,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:how is this a top 40 hit?
Nobody Knows:yeah. I, , I think he's, uh, I think that he makes sense to do next. Um, and then we also have, we have tons of other people that we wanna cover, but, , back to the point, yeah. If, tell us what you think about ASAP Brock. Maybe tell us what are, what are your favorite verses from him and maybe some, , some songs you would recommend. And why do you think he is, , why do you think he's a good album? A good, a good album? He's a really good album., a good artist? Or why do you think he's not a good artist?, and , what do you think makes him able to have such a high vocabulary and still make produce, like songs that feel fairly emotional,. Roscoes’ Sweatsuit: Also where, Yeah. What do you, when you think of ASAP Brock, what do you think? Where do you, what do you think, like, what comes to your head or where do you think you, like he's hanging out? Yeah. Just tell us what you think., give us some thoughts and give us some feedback., and if you, , have listened to this, , thank you., you have literally beat the algorithm if you're listening to us and we, we really deeply appreciate it., and, , yeah, if you , can you please, actually let me let Roscoe do this cuz he has funny, he has the big funny funnies when he talks about this stuff,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Um, well before I said lick the like, but this will be, um, no, I'm not gonna say it before I say, um, you know, anything., man, I, I think it would be kind of cool if, , I don't know. I, I think one of these days we should put like, when you reach the end, you should put the, , the Mario completion sound, you know, when you, in the old games where you like cross the, , the flag.
Nobody Knows:Yeah, yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing it this time. I'm gonna do it now.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Like,
Nobody Knows:Congratulations.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:yeah. You know, thanks for listening. If you wanna like, uh, and support us, you could like us both, um, you know, actually favoring us and your, your, your hearts and, and caring with us. You know, you don't even have to like it, you know, just tell somebody, just, you know, just find somebody that you, that you, you care about and say, Hey, um, you, you're, you waste an hour, um, listening to these two guys who don't know what they're talking about. Ramble on about things that you don't care about., because that's our whole spiel. And, you know, if you like it, you know, you, you could also just leave a regular, like, and, , subscribe.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Also don't share this. Don't, don't be one of those guys that shares things on Facebook., I just, just tell somebody about it. No, no one actually wants, watches your shit. Ah, man. Sorry. I'm becoming an asshole again. Nobody. You wanna take this,
Nobody Knows:Yeah. I, I'll think you, you, you already have a whole clip on our, on our, uh, on our sh on our highlight reel of you just going off about people sharing things. But yeah. But yeah. Uh, yeah. Off of, uh, what Ro was saying. Yeah. If you like, you, um, if you like it, like it, , and if you would like to subscribe, subscribe. Um, and yeah, um, thanks for being cool, and thanks for listening to us and, you know, make suggestions and tell us what you think
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Yeah,
Nobody Knows:and,
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:tell us, tell a friend and take it easy.
Nobody Knows:Yeah. Take it easy. Um, and, um, before, before we go, thank you Roscoe for like, dealing with this and, you know, talking with me.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Oh, not then. We do it every day. We do it every day. This is just nothing new, but there's a microphone. There's nothing, there's nothing different.
Nobody Knows:Yeah.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:This is the same time length that it would, we would already have this conversation, if not longer.
Nobody Knows:Definitely longer. Uh, but yeah. Thank you. Oh man. Take it easy.
Roscoes’ Sweatsuit:Peace.
Nobody Knows:Peace.