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Captain America: Brave New World with Glenn Dowdy
This episode dives into "Captain America: Brave New World" and "Den of Thieves," discussing the nuances of character development and the themes within each film. The hosts explore the theatrical experience, audience reactions, and the cultural implications of the identity narratives presented in both movies.
• Excitement of opening day theater experiences
• Character arcs explored in "Captain America"
• Themes of race and identity in Captain America's journey
• Insights into heist dynamics in "Den of Thieves"
• Exploration of moral ambiguity in both films
• Audience engagement with collectibles and popcorn buckets
excuse me, is anybody sitting here? Sorry, this is taken, sorry welcome back to this.
Speaker 2:He's taken. I'm your host, rob miranda. I got a recurring guest on the podcast, uh, he's currently going through all the mcu movies, so I thought he was a perfect guest to have back on for the new captain america, brave new world. Uh, to join me is longtime recurring guest, mr glenn dowdy.
Speaker 1:Thank you for coming on, glenn thanks for having me back on, rob, like you, uh, already know this is. This is my favorite podcast. To come on, to come on, yeah yeah, so I know you miss podcasting. We used to have a dolly parton podcast on the drive over here I was actually reminiscing. I was like man, I just miss even just meeting up once a week with you boys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a fun time of our lives being in front of the mic.
Speaker 1:It's just. There's nothing like it.
Speaker 2:Well, I told you, we're in talks right now. We're being, I guess, on a pretty big local podcast pretty soon too, so that's going to be pretty exciting. But, like I said, you're going through the MCU right now. Last time you came on the podcast, we talked about Garden of the Galaxy. You were caught up until that point, but now we're all the way up to Captain America, brave New World. You're not 100% there yet, but you're enough to really understand what's going on and enjoying it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've got a couple more to knock down. Show-wise, you only got one show out of the way, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the shows I'll get to, but the main thing I wanted to do was I wanted to go to an opening day theater release of a movie that I know stuff about, and I did that, finally, for a Marvel movie this is my first one. I missed all the Avengers Endgame, all of that. I missed everything.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say you started on a bad note, because this theater crowd is kind of mid. Usually there's a lot more cheering in this are you kidding me? I know. Not the movie itself we're talking about like, uh, just the crowd reactions. A lot of times there's cheering.
Speaker 1:I thought that was a packed out theater it was packed and when uh, what's his name? Came on the screen, everybody cheered. I was like I don't ever get that in any other movie.
Speaker 2:That's a new thing to me cheering, yeah, um, there wasn't a whole lot of that, though maybe like one scene I can think of, but did it live up to everything that you wanted to? Yeah, it was better than expected are you a big Captain America fan?
Speaker 1:nah, he's okay he's okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like him. He's probably like my top five, I would say, not top three, though he's no, thor. Yeah, thor's pretty badass. Thor was my number three, I think. I think he goes Spider-Man, it might be Thor actually Spider-Man. Thor Wolverine, if we're counting X-Men already. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I like Thor, I like the Hulk. Is he an Avenger?
Speaker 2:The Hulk, yeah, yeah, I like the hulk um.
Speaker 1:I like captain america, I like this new captain america. Uh, the sam wilson one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the mackie version. Yeah, I like him. I'm excited to get into that deep dive we're going to talk to, but that's going to be just the first movie. We're talking about captain america, brave new world. We're also going to be doing a throwback episode, a throwback a movie. In this episode, um, you picked den of thieves, which is a good time, because the den of thieves just came out last month in theaters. I wasn't planning on seeing den of thieves 2, but after watching the first one, I'm more likely to go see it now. Excellent, how'd you find that movie?
Speaker 1:uh, I think brandon showed it to me one night, uh a couple years ago I'm not sure when it came out 2018, but uh, it was on my mind. I tried to watch it, uh not too long ago, and I was unable to finish, so I came back to it and then next thing I know I'm on your podcast. I'm like, all right, let's watch some Den of Thieves All the stars just aligned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm a big collector. I don't know if you can see behind you.
Speaker 1:I got Thor's hammer Iron Man's helmet.
Speaker 2:I saw that I around he's, yeah, he's okay, I see some shields.
Speaker 1:I see some doorknobs yeah I see some posters yeah I see a lot yeah, captain ray's pretty dope.
Speaker 2:I cosplayed as a one year, if you believe that or not I've, yeah, I saw pictures yeah, yeah, would you ever cosplay?
Speaker 1:yeah, I, uh, we were just talking about c2e2. Uh, I, I was pokemon. Is that cosplaying?
Speaker 2:yeah, I was. I was a psyduck psy psy, psy. You got like a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you ever think about that like?
Speaker 2:people are going through reminiscing about their pictures there's a picture of you out there with like someone. Yeah, as a poke I felt like lebron.
Speaker 1:Hey, glenn can I take your picture?
Speaker 2:sure, okay lebron doesn't take pictures. I heard, I heard he's a dick yeah he could never but uh, okay, let's go into the actual movie theater experience to talk about. Well before that, there was a lot leading up to this movie. You just finished watching falcon and the winded soldier on disney plus that came out, I think, 2021 that's the second marvel tv show that I've watched.
Speaker 1:What's the first one? Uh, daredevil. You finished it already. I didn't finish it, but I've seen it. Oh well, Daredevil is coming back within a month. Yeah, that'll be next. That'll be next for me to get locked in on.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you knew this, but there is something on Marvel Project being released every single month of this year animated series. Obviously february was um captain america, march's daredevil, april, uh, some other show, but may is going to be thunderbolts. You know I can't remember them all right now, but there's a lot going on for them over right now I'm excited for thunderbolts are you, I, you know what.
Speaker 2:The first trailer came out and I was not that impressed by it. But the second one came out was more showing the villain of the movie and I thought I'm I'm excited for it. It looks cool yeah.
Speaker 1:I just want the Marvel experience I'm like all Marveled out right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can tell. And one of the things and not Marvel themselves doing, but AMC movie theaters are doing, they're coming up with cool, creative popcorn buckets. Did you peep those?
Speaker 1:I saw them there I was like wow, that's a really cool Captain America popcorn bucket. I would have loved to get my hands on one.
Speaker 2:Well, not only did I peep them, I got my hands on them. We're going to go review some of these popcorn buckets. I'm going to start off with the least cool ones and go into the cooler ones.
Speaker 1:All right, this one is not a popcorn bucket, but it's actually a cup. I'm a popcorn connoisseur, by the way. Oh really, I didn't know that about you. Oh yeah, I love popcorn. Yeah, didn't you go to college for that? No, oh okay, I must have been stuck in you for somebody, but I have a popcorn machine in my house.
Speaker 2:I got the cinnabon seasoning, so yeah, I take the popcorn to flavor town. What's the difference between cinnabon seasoning and cinnabon?
Speaker 1:I mean cinnamon seasoning the cinnabon tastes like like cinnabon. You're eating like that ooey gooey center of the Cinnabon in every bite of the popcorn.
Speaker 2:Probably the unhealthiest part of the popcorn.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean no Cinnabon.
Speaker 2:Anyways, going back to the cups, this is actually Captain America cup. I love the texture of it. The design of it looks cool. The front of it's like for the wings. That's a durable cup.
Speaker 1:right there too, it has a lid too.
Speaker 2:That's the shield, but it's on the why they need to do the Captain America shield. I lost a straw within like from the theater to the parking lot. It must have fell out. I thought it was like one of those thicker ones that wouldn't fall off, but I'm still like sore, like you could throw pens in there Pens in there or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pencils, the possibilities are endless Markers, crayons. The second one is what I was excited. When I seen pictures of this, I'm a little bit disappointed the size of it. It's the aviator helmet for the new Captain America.
Speaker 1:Oh nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not only is it nice, you open up the top of his head and it puts it in there, but not only does it hold popcorn, it's also a light. It's kind of light right now, but his eyes light up too red it's pretty sick, right.
Speaker 1:Can I see that one?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 2:You can only fit barely any popcorn in here, though yeah, I wish it was like a little bit bigger, like I said, but it's very light been there. Yeah, what would you rate this one out of 10, this popcorn bucket?
Speaker 1:that popcorn bucket out of 10 gets four big booms. Boom, boom, boom, okay, okay. Watch us get sued now by the boom guys. It'd be my pleasure I got one more popcorn bucket for you.
Speaker 2:This one's my favorite. This one is actually shaped enough, uh for a captain america shield that. I really like, I like that I've seen this and I had to go buy it immediately. Well, I had somebody buy it for me those were sick.
Speaker 1:It was cool watching people walk around carrying those uh-huh, but you flip it on.
Speaker 2:It's like wow, it's down, there's captain america, oh, it turns into a popcorn bucket that that's a mega bucket, yeah, and it has, like this cool new logo on the front of it. It's kind of hard to get it stuck in there, but I thought this thing was badass. It's huge Humongous, isn't it?
Speaker 1:And not only can you put the popcorn where the popcorn goes, along the sides, you could put some a pretzel dog you know, maybe a.
Speaker 2:You know, maybe a soft pretzel, I don't know. Reese's pieces. They can fit around the edges, man, yeah, would you put donut holes in there? Yeah, nice, uh, what'd you get this? One out of 10, one out of five booms that's a 10.
Speaker 1:No, that we're going. That's a 10, that's a 10, that's a 10, right, that's a 10 pop right, I got like judged for buying.
Speaker 2:Like. I'll just say that costs like damn 50 bucks.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah well, you can't put a price on happiness, I guess so it also came with popcorn too.
Speaker 2:They gave me, like I said, well, can't put a price on freedom.
Speaker 1:Can't put a price on bravery, can't put a price on good values, and that's what captain america stands for, my friend all of those three or four things that I just said you're feeling like pretty patriotic this week, right a little bit, is it?
Speaker 1:because, like it's just Captain America, because that movie was way more patriotic than I thought it was going to be, because I mean we'll get into it, but they had the whole presidency and everything, and that's all fresh in all of our minds, regardless of whether you pay attention to that or not. So to have that kind of side of things intertwined into the movie Right now.
Speaker 2:your president's in the office right now right?
Speaker 1:Well, I wouldn't say he's my president. I mean, let's take it easy, didn't you?
Speaker 2:tell me you voted for him. I think he's funny.
Speaker 1:He entertains me, it's not getting political Rob.
Speaker 2:Okay, captain America, brave New World. This is the fourth Captain America. This movie actually got announced on the season premiere of the Falcon Awareness Soldier show. I mean this is kind of something that happens in the comics. Sam Wilson does get the shield in the beginning. I mean the comic books. So, going to the show, I mean the movie. It wasn't a big deal. I think you'd like this movie way more than I did. You seen the. I think you'd like this movie way more than I did You've seen. I feel like the only two shows you have to watch before this movie is Incredible Hulk and Eternals.
Speaker 1:I went into this seeing the Incredible Hulk. Didn't see the Eternals, however, I watched it last night.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:I watched it last night. It's a long ass movie right. It was a long movie but I really enjoyed it. I kind of looked into it a little bit before, because you said that I should watch it.
Speaker 2:I was like, nah, I'm not doing that, so I hit the spark notes, did something click in it Like, oh, that's a reference to this. Yeah, it did no-transcript an explanation about it behind all of it.
Speaker 1:I mean we could talk about the eternals another time, but, like, even at the end of watching the eternals last night I was thinking okay, so do all of the other people in the marvel universe know about these people?
Speaker 2:no right not that we're aware of and I don't think we're ever gonna find out, because the movie wasn't well received. This was like the first, if I'm not mistaken, second movie, um, that was released pre post covid, so because of that it was released on disney plus it wasn't in theaters.
Speaker 1:Very not well received I I tried to watch it before when I was going in the timeline because it was the next up, and think me and Pat were watching it shout out.
Speaker 2:Pat he's like your falcon in this movie, yeah but anyways, yeah, he got shot down, stupid.
Speaker 1:But uh, we got like 20 minutes in and we were like, yeah, this movie sucks. It did it sucked.
Speaker 2:But we watched it last night, I think. Uh, it originally had a sequel planned out and it got canceled because it was badly received. So you're never really gonna find out what happened. The characters at the end of it. On top of that, there was an end credit scene that was like blade related. Uh, you know how. That one guy was picking up a sword and I don't know who blade is. He's a vampire slayer. He's like a hybrid, like he's half vampire, okay it's a good.
Speaker 2:He's kind of like a buffy, the vampire type thing, going on kind of yeah, yeah I've never seen that either you mean, either um, and I also want to talk about anthony mackie himself. He's been having a blast going around absolute dog he's a great actor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, awesome, he got a performance.
Speaker 2:He got emotional on the red carpet of this. You know this is the first movie that it's his people are coming to see his movie. You know he's always been a part of bigger movies but he got a pretty emotional about that. I've been watching love, enjoying him going around marketing this thing, because he talks very passionate about the character, about marvel itself. You know he's very proud and I I like seeing that off screen I don't know if you knew like Fallout Superman with Henry Cavill.
Speaker 1:He was a great.
Speaker 2:Superman pick, but off camera. It just seemed like he didn't care about playing the character at all, which I'm sure is not the case, but that's what came off off screen.
Speaker 1:If you're going to be Captain America, that's something that's bigger than yourself A thousand percent. So that's good that he's putting that on his shoulders like that.
Speaker 2:I respect that he talks about how he relates to this character, because, you know, one of the themes of this movie is about America accepting a black man being Captain America, and that's the same thing with real life Anthony Mackie, a black man taking over the role of Captain America in movies. Even though it happened in the comics, people are still kind of upset about that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, movies. You know, even though it happened to comics, people are still kind of upset about that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah it is this exact same scenario. Yeah, did you enjoy the show falcon? And?
Speaker 2:winter soldier, it was okay yeah, I didn't hate it uh I think I was just a little turned off because I didn't need to watch it to watch this movie so I'm glad you said that and one of the things we're jumping a little bit ahead at this point right now, but I want to get into that the whole. One of the biggest themes about the falcon and winter soldier is, like I said, america accepting a black captain. America also. It's sam wilson trying to kind of factors. Okay, steve chose me for a reason I should be here. You know he was. He was self-doubting himself and they redid the same thing in this movie and I was like why we already got a whole ass show with the same theme. Like I don't need to hear him cry about this even more. You know, yeah, and it wasn't until spoiler alert, it wasn't until bucky came in a picture to tell him the same exact thing steve told you for a reason. I was like, dude, are you gonna cry about?
Speaker 2:and he's gonna have to come wipe your tears every time seriously like just do it just yeah, I was like quit crying about this dude like you're here for a reason, for being a human with no super soldier, serum.
Speaker 1:He was badass in this movie, like fighting these big-ass villains, fighting the fucking hawk there were, yeah, there were multiple times when I thought there's no way he could survive like it's like the hulk I see him human.
Speaker 2:I see him literally just running down the streets like my ass will be dead by.
Speaker 1:It was his suit, though, bro, that suit was awesome made by the news the new suit. The new suit was sweet made by the captain america like. Imagine me right now in a captain america suit, but like with wings yeah, like wakandan abandon manium protecting me from any type of force.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of having a tough time picturing you like with the og shield, with the og shield, hell yeah. Um, all right, let's just get into it, because we're going to talk about this and I don't know if we officially said we're gonna talk about the first den of these in the second half of this episode. Um so, captain america, a brave new world. Sam wilson, the new captain america, finds himself in the middle of an international incident that must discover the motive behind a nefarious global plan directed by julia julius ona, written by rob edwards and story by rob edwards. Sorry, okay, overall reaction I thought this movie was incredibly mid.
Speaker 2:I don't even think there was nothing special about this movie. I think it's very forgettable. It didn't add anything new to the mcu. I should say, like the villain, the red hawk yeah, he gets defeated at the end of the movie, but I don't think we're ever going to see him again. On top of that, the red the hawk is the incredible hawks villain, one of his villains, and so was the, the main person, uh, not the main person, the the villain samuel stearns.
Speaker 2:That's a hulk villain, um so this movie was more of a hulk movie than it was captain america I think it would have been way better.
Speaker 1:I first of all, I love, I love this movie first of all. So I'm not knocking this movie, but it would have been way better if they didn't include the Hulk in any of the trailers or anything.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent, because the trailer showed the entire time. The Hulk was in there.
Speaker 1:Because I think the scene where they showed him turning into the Hulk we all knew Right Because we saw. But can you imagine if we didn't see?
Speaker 2:That would have been incredible.
Speaker 1:Everybody in the theater would have been incredible.
Speaker 2:Everybody in the theater would be like oh, it's the hulk on top of that. That was like the climax of the movie. Yeah, that was the third act, what? Like it was ruined. I was kind of disappointing. Yeah, it's fine. Um, it was kind of ruined I. I was disappointed in that. Um, you know the but the action scenes. There was like several fighting scenes throughout the whole movie and it was pretty good. The fighting scenes were not as good as the original Captain America because compared to this, this just seemed so simple Like punch punch dodge, punch punch dodge, but in between them there was like 30 different cuts for one punch scene.
Speaker 1:That felt like I feel like these action scenes are more impressive, though, because the other Captain America had the serum. This one's just a human.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I want to watch real people fight, I'm just talking WWE, yeah, but this is Captain America, captain. America will punch you through the fucking wall. Nah, not this one. That's what I'm saying. I don't care what this guy does, okay, but he was interesting. He was definitely a badass. I'm not knocking his performance at all in this movie. It just almost didn't feel like his movie, though, which just sucks. A character that stood out to me, though, was the new Falcon in this movie, played by Danny Ramirez.
Speaker 1:I could tell early on that they were going to focus a lot on him Because his personality early on the way he was making jokes and everything. They didn't show any of that in the TV show. He was definitely a great sidekick in this movie yeah, definitely, but in the TV show he was way more bland.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Way more bland.
Speaker 2:He didn't have much screen time, I guess. I guess that's true, but this one, yeah, he's another one that goes on marketing and talking about interviews, how proud he is to be a hero, and stuff like that on big screen, which is cool yeah it's tight. I mean the Falcon, just the wings alone is such an advantage. I feel like it's badass.
Speaker 1:Oh bro, if you can fly, that's a step up.
Speaker 2:Right, because even the Captain America can do that. Yeah yeah, this movie was just okay in funnies it's not well.
Speaker 1:I guess the other captain americans weren't that funny no, yeah, just like any marvel movie, they say a couple things here and there.
Speaker 2:That's like, oh, that was kind of funny uh, one of the biggest thing we talked about, the president, uh, thaddeus ross, played by henry ford in this movie. He replaces the other thaddeus ross. Let me look up his name. I'm sorry, uh, william hurt, which in real life he tragically died, but I would have enjoyed his role a million times better if it was hurts instead of um harrison.
Speaker 1:I thought harrison ford did a a good job, though, like looking like hurts and sounding like hurts and acting like hurts I feel like I was like envisioning.
Speaker 2:I feel like like Hertz is almost a foot taller than I am.
Speaker 1:I was envisioning in my head. This is the same guy.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I like Harris before, but I didn't like him in this, couldn't trust him. Captain America said we can't work for him. Yeah, can't work for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you caught on pretty early. It's almost like you're like Captain America, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, I'm making connections there. Um, I had a blast watching it though, but would I watch it again in theaters?
Speaker 1:probably not oh no, yeah, it wasn't like that good.
Speaker 2:It was good, though I thought yeah, I don't want to give too much away in spoilers, but there's nothing too much spoil like let's go down the line because the cost. Let's talk about the costumes in general because like they were definitely a step up, not just, uh, falcon, I mean captain america, but falcons as well yeah, uh, falcon was basically just like army captain america, army green captain or army green uh, the falcon, but army green but then how they made the red hawk look in this movie.
Speaker 2:They made it look a lot more like harrison ford than the like Mark Ruffalo. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, Did you did it? I thought it was the exact same face and everything. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:For not the Hulk but the Red Hawk. Yeah, yeah, that's. I was impressed how they did that. I liked it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought it looked like just the Hulk's face. Okay, like Green Hulk, but red.
Speaker 2:I was very surprised, and a little bit disappointed, that the Hulk didn't make an appearance in this movie. I thought he would, at one point, right To stop Red Hulk or maybe just have it like I thought he was going to visit him at the raft at least and like you said, there's so many mentions to the Hulk as far as the villains who they are Like might as well include the Hulk.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:You know why there's not another Incredible Hulk movie? Why? Because Universal owns the rights to movies for the Hulk and they don't want to give out the rights to the Marvel, and I guess they don't. I don't know why, but they don't want to make another Hulk movie. So that's why they're sneaking in the Hulk in all these other movies like Thor Ragnarok, because the Hulk was heavily influenced and then you got the movies like this. So they're kind of using him without using him. So you don't think we'll see Red Hulk again. I personally don't think so In Avengers. No, I think he's one and done, unless they make another Hulk movie, which I kind of doubt.
Speaker 1:Because what if we're in the Avengers? We're losing the battle. Captain America's getting his teeth kicked in. We say, hey, we need a ringer. Let's make this guy former president, mr President, get angry. Now we have an extra.
Speaker 2:Hulk. He also doesn't have the control, like Bruce Banner does, over the Hulk.
Speaker 2:No, he doesn't know how to yeah, but that's why I thought he's gonna show up at the end of elisa and credits. He may be like hey, like, like you haven't seen the movie, the show she hawk yet. Like he trains her how to manifest it on some special island that tony stark made for him. I thought he's gonna like hey, like, let me watch this guy, like we'll try to work this out, but uh, no, nothing, he just gotta. He. Matter of fact, harrison ford, not thaddeus ross, turns himself in into the raft. So he's gonna live on the rest of his days there. The raft what's the raft? That giant prison in the ocean.
Speaker 1:He was locked up yeah he's the hulk, though he can get out of there.
Speaker 2:You know who's also there is um zemo. You know, we learned from captain america show zemo. He was the villain, you know. Ah, yes, yes, he's also on the raft too. I thought we were gonna like run into him, at least he shouldn't have all these bad guys together.
Speaker 1:Something's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Right, and then also Captain.
Speaker 1:America's going to have to come and save the day.
Speaker 2:The Howard Stearns was Not Howard Stearns, it's not Howard Stearns, Rob Samuel Stearns Come on. Samuel Stearns was also there. You know the he was very underwhelming.
Speaker 1:He's kind of like a smart-ass reed richards that he wanted to use his powers just to get back at. I didn't like that. He was turned out to be the main villain, um. However, it is pretty realistic to the world today. This whole movie, I thought, was because, okay, we don't want to like spoil so much of the plot, but they're fighting over a resource yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 2:It's actually a pretty big deal that resources. We'll talk about that in a second.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what countries do today. We fight over oil, or let's say oil you know what I'm saying? And then that could lead to tensions, and then that could lead to a war. We saw a war in the movie. We saw the president try and get the president get shot or try to get shot. Do, doesn't it get shot or try to get shot like do you think it was really?
Speaker 2:shot, shot in the movie. No, no, in real life. Oh, in real. Yeah, okay, video of it, okay, okay, but like but like you know what I'm saying. Like it's not far off from like the world uh-huh, yeah, you're right about that, and I'm like I can appreciate that realism. I think there's been like eight presidents in the MCU already since it started. Wow, yeah, they keep changing them that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, like the, he was the main villain. He's more like a chess master than anything. He's the one pulling those strings behind everything and like letting them fall, kind of like a Zemo villain, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah but like I Like, I just have problems with him. How do you think he looked Brainiac Nasty?
Speaker 2:They did a good job, yeah, he was gross he looked like a. That's not really what he looks like in the comics, though, oh it's not I mean his head in the movie. It was like his brain pushed up to the skin. It looked like almost.
Speaker 2:Because it's so big, yeah, and I was like this guy's resourceful, like why don't they try working with this guy anymore? You know what I mean? Yeah, and he was this. We could talk about that credit scene because it's literally not spoiling anything. It was lame as shit, that credit scene dude.
Speaker 1:I thought it was good. Everybody when we were walking out was like that was the worst end credit scene ever. I was just like you guys just have to complain about something yeah, there was a great movie and you just have to get a complaint out there was huge nerd nerds sitting behind us. Yeah, you heard that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was nothing. I mean not that it was bad, but it didn't add any information. It was just him warning because he has that big brain. He's like there's more people like me coming and that's how it ends. Okay, who the fuck's coming? Are you going to tell him and we're going to get advantage? Point at this point sometime so um his thing.
Speaker 1:Like I don't want to like get there too fast, but his mind control right. No manipulating people like but like controlling their minds he couldn't control their minds.
Speaker 2:You sure, he played mind games with them, but he's not in your head then how did he make people? Do things. He's that smart like you can see multiple outcomes. You know, he just does like math in his head, basically. So how did he make like if I like?
Speaker 1:punch you. How do you make the dude shoot at the president?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, I'm sorry he, he doesn't do it with his mind. I'm sorry he does do my control, my bat through machines he made.
Speaker 1:So why didn't he just do that to captain america? It's kind of true.
Speaker 2:I was thinking that the whole movie yeah, there are some plot holes like that in this movie, but um, isaiah bradley is a big part of this movie same thing though all of the trailers. You see he's. Those are all his scenes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I I saw him in the tv show, so that was good that I knew who he was for the tv show, so I take back what I said. Yeah, he was cool.
Speaker 2:I like his character a lot and I like how cap's trying. I knew who he was for the tv show, so I take back what I said. Yeah, he was cool.
Speaker 1:I like his character a lot and I like how cap's trying to help him he was cool and when he was fighting and running fast and doing super soldier stuff it looked really funny because he's old yeah, but it looked badass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it did. Yeah, it did. He's a big dude too. Yeah, he was. Um, he's another character I don't think we're ever going to see.
Speaker 1:That seems right.
Speaker 2:In the show, you know he had his grandson there helping him with things, right, yeah. In the comics he's like I think his name's like Patriot or something like that. He's a superhero character as well, because I think he gets inherited some of his strength and stuff like that. Oh cool, so we might be seeing him, because there is going to be like a young avengers that made with, uh, ant-man's daughter kamala harris, not kamala harris.
Speaker 1:Kamala harris is the avengers kamala.
Speaker 2:What's her name? Con kamala, she was miss marvel, um. Who else? Hawkeye the new bishop, kate bishop, that's cool dude.
Speaker 1:Ant-man's daughter's gonna be a badass yeah there's mentions of ant-man in this movie.
Speaker 2:I thought we're gonna get a small cameo towards the end of him. I was hoping so. I enjoy Ant-Man Like, especially when he was in the hospital just waking up. Yeah, I thought it was like hey, I got a surprise for you and it's Ant-Man. That'd be cool if he was already there and he just made himself bigger to talk about. Uh, her name is ruth. Ruth, bass, bass, giraffe she's a little.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's still, she was like the head of security and she's like four feet tall. Something about that actress was kind of off right, like I just couldn't stop staring at it, like because she was russian maybe, but she was like so tiny the way she was talking, it was like unsettling almost yeah, she was a little firecracker, but I wouldn't have messed with her she was like in the black widow program, same thing as natasha, so she was a badass her fighting scenes were tight yeah because, like you said, she's so small, but she's like running up walls and like kicking people in the air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she was like natasha romanoff, yeah and she was someone early on that I thought might be uh up to some tomfoolery but, she turned out to be. She turned out to be one of the uh, one of the good people, one of the straight straight shooters of the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, once you realize what the fuck was going on, yeah, um I don't know if you knew about this before this movie was made. They damn near completed the movie making it, but they Marvel Kevin Feige saw it and was like this is ass. So they had to go back and spend another four months reshooting the whole movie.
Speaker 1:Create the entire movie again, damn near.
Speaker 2:I don't know what they cast or what they got rid of.
Speaker 1:That original footage or the first time they did it. Is that super valuable. Does somebody have that?
Speaker 2:I'm sure it'll get leaked, or maybe the plot, like the script or something, will get leaked years later. I don't know if we'll ever see those.
Speaker 1:It happens a lot actually Does it. Yeah, I feel like somebody should get those Warner.
Speaker 2:Brothers has an entire movie ready to go for the Wile E Coyote.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm talking about no-transcript.
Speaker 2:Finished making the movie, but wonder brothers decided not to release it because they'd rather take a tax write off on it. So if you write off your taxes, one of the stipulations is you can never release that movie then, so it's just burned. Yeah, they did try auctioning it off to other studios if they wanted to pick it up and distribute it, but I don't think anyone bid on it, so we're probably never going to see that too.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was really bad. Did they get to see it before they bid on it?
Speaker 2:I'm sure they do. Yeah, but Captain America I didn't see. At the end. You know, at the end of the movies it says captain america will return, or star lord will return, and stuff like that yeah, captain, america will return to the avengers I don't think I said that did it unless I missed it. Nah, would you like to see captain america back, though? Of course do you think he would deserve his own movie.
Speaker 1:He'll be back in the event. He's an avenger. Yeah, but the president asked him to bring the avengers back and that's.
Speaker 2:We're gonna see him again. Yeah, that's what this kind of movie was like, leading up to him reforming the avengers too. Who do you think is gonna be on the avengers now?
Speaker 1:I think this avengers. I think they're gonna rally up. Uh, obviously, captain america. He's leading the team, which is crazy because he's a human okay thor's gonna be back, not fat Thor.
Speaker 2:He's going to be chiseled what about his new daughter from the other movie like Love? I think that's what they called her as an?
Speaker 1:Avenger. Yeah, like his kid. We're talking about the creme de la creme here. Star-lord, the Guardians maybe the Guardians are there too but Star-Lord is confirmed to come back that's what it said, at least at the end of his movie.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I would imagine so okay.
Speaker 1:Um then, uh is is hulk. Would he come back for avengers?
Speaker 2:I don't think there's more, I would lean. No, I think that's more. If mark ruffalo wants to come back for the avengers, I'm leaning no, there um spider-man, obviously, obviously.
Speaker 1:Well, I can't wait for spider-man, this spider-manMan, this new Spider-Man. He's my favorite Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:Tom Holland yeah, he's cool. He's cool, he's dope. He's a comfort to be in the Avengers movie too. Let's see who else.
Speaker 1:And I think we get a special appearance from the OG Captain America In the new Avengers movie. Yeah, that's a rumor, he's denying it.
Speaker 2:Is it really he's denying the rumors? But we've also seen actors deny. They've been in movies before too and they trust me on it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I would deny it too, and then I'd come back in my Captain America suit and fight some crime.
Speaker 2:Baby, fuck yeah, I was like what's up dudes, yeah, yeah, what was I going to say? Which other characters? For sure, maybe the wasp, I don't know. Um shang chi, he's gonna come back. Sick movie. Yeah, dr, strange, I think he's gonna come back in the avengers movies and he's gonna have a new movie. They have to have dr strange there. Yeah, I think shang chi and um dr strange is supposed to film this year.
Speaker 1:Strange yeah obviously a lot of great people that I'm talking about. I didn't know who they were like eight months ago, right, yeah, black panther the new black panther yeah uh, there's gonna be a spinoff show from.
Speaker 2:You've seen black panther too yet, right or no?
Speaker 1:I have not. That's like my next one of my next two to watch uh thor, love and thunder and then black panther too okay.
Speaker 2:so there's, the character in the second black panther is getting her own spinoff show. I I believe it's releasing this fall. Yeah, called Ironheart. She kind of makes like her own Iron man suits Full of vibranium yeah, she's that smart too, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I wish that stuff was real.
Speaker 2:Well, we also talked about. They introduced a new element that's stronger than vibranium, Animinium yeah, which you know. It's basically saying, hey, we're going to have Wolverine come in pretty soon.
Speaker 1:All right, so that's Wolverine's stuff.
Speaker 2:Animantium yeah, his stuff is made out of Animantium, his skeleton, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's super strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, in the movies they said it's stronger than Vibranium, but in the comic books I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1:All right. So the resource in this movie that they were fighting over was Animitium Animantium. And where'd they get?
Speaker 2:it from the celestial that's sticking its head out the thing.
Speaker 1:Is it made out of it?
Speaker 2:I guess so yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's, all Animantium.
Speaker 2:I guess so yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, because at the end of Eternals, like I told you last night, she stopped it from coming out of the earth. I thought it was marbles at first, by turning it to stone, I thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I looked closer. It looked like it was metal and I know that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:so yeah, you caught on pretty well. I was a little bit nervous for you watching this, because I don't know how much was going to go over your head.
Speaker 1:But no, you caught on pretty well. That's fair, yeah, yeah, um, overall the action was movie was pretty dope.
Speaker 2:It was like I can't get over, captain america's suit, like how it was based white yeah, that was sick.
Speaker 1:It was very comic book, accurate and he had the cool glasses, definitely like an upgrade to the old suit. The old suit was just like vintage, so like I get that, but the new suit was like they did awesome yeah let's talk about cameos too.
Speaker 2:There's really two, only two cameos um the winter soldier that's more bucky barnes than the winter soldier in this movie but is he one of them?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay him.
Speaker 2:I just couldn't think of his name um, he shows up in this movie, made a way, like I said, to get basically give cap a pep talk, but he it's stated that he's running for governor and the next movie doesn't look like he's a governor. In that movie you know what I mean he's like one of the main characters. What movie the?
Speaker 1:thunderbolts.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, he's fighting right governor, so I kind of was confused on why they threw that in the movie. Um, and the other one came. It was betsy ross, at the very, very end, the red hawk's daughter. Okay, yeah, she was an incredible hawk. And, fun fact, that actress she's the voice of I can't remember her name, but she was the voice of spider-man suit in his, in his helmet alexa no it's not, alexa.
Speaker 1:I know what you're talking about, though I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:That's cool, that's her voice, the voice actress. But yeah, she's. She made a cameo in this movie which they made. It's a big reveal.
Speaker 1:Like natasha, no betsy ross trying to think of the name in the suit. I'm like watching. Oh, I'm watching tom holland talk to his suit and hearing her voice yeah, what the fuck is her name?
Speaker 2:like I want to say, I thought it was k Karen or some shit like that, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1:No, that's SpongeBob.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plankton's wife, yeah, yeah, but her cameo was literally five minutes, if like more like three. Actually, she didn't add anything to it. People were kind of like confused. Should we cheer for this? I don't know if you noticed that. No, I didn't. Like there's only a handful of claps. It's cool like Easter egg, but like they built it up bigger than it was. And when I see this movie is mid I don't think there was any character development. There wasn't anything.
Speaker 1:You don't think Captain America had character development? No he became the guy bro. He became the guy in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier he became the lead, yeah, but the president walked up to him and said hey, I want you to start the Avengers back up.
Speaker 2:The president ended up being a dick anyway. Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1:Still though.
Speaker 2:He started out really good like a nice guy.
Speaker 1:That's character development. But then, like 45 minutes into the movie, the Falcon, the, the falcon, the falcon no, no character, he was the same, the whole movie almost gave his life.
Speaker 2:Now he's gonna be in the avengers and now he's an avenger.
Speaker 1:He didn't change. He became an avenger no, I didn't know.
Speaker 2:This movie was mid like, and then when we got to the third act, you know with the hawk, I was like, oh, we're here already, like this, is it you know? Like I didn't. You know. Every movie, almost every movie, there's this marvel goosebumps moments where, like, something happens and like, oh, we're here already, like this, is it? You know? Like I didn't you know. Every movie, almost every movie, there's this Marvel goosebumps moments where, like, something happens and like, oh shit, it's about to go down. I didn't get any of that in this movie.
Speaker 1:I think we would've if we just didn't know about the Red Hulk.
Speaker 2:I 1000% agree with that and that fight alone was literally like 6 minutes, if that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it would have been okay if we didn't know about it. It would have been great if we didn't know about it yeah.
Speaker 2:Any final thoughts on Captain America? Brave New World.
Speaker 1:Solid movie First movie release in a long time that I was excited for in months before and yeah, solid One out of ten. One out of ten. One out of ten and this is biased, based on recency the occasion of me enjoying myself, going to this movie and watching it is going to raise the score a little bit of what I think the movie is. So I'm going to say a 9.2. Solid 9.2?.
Speaker 2:I loved it. That's incredible. I loved it. Do you think you're gonna make your whole personality because america now? No, no, no no I'm just gonna play it cool. Oh no, I'm getting. This is six out of ten. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry respect to your opinion 6.6 out of 10. It's this movie's forgettable. Am I gonna think about this movie two years from now? Definitely not forgettable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, forget you're never gonna see this movie two years from now.
Speaker 2:Definitely not Forgettable, yeah, forgettable. You're never going to see it again. I'll probably see it one more time. Actually, you know what I did follow. There's someone I follow who does podcasting reviews. Their score went up the second time they watched it, so maybe I'll give it another try, but definitely not in theaters. But once it starts streaming, probably watch. Do you re-watch marvel movies?
Speaker 1:all the time you do. I think I've seen uh, endgame maybe, like I've seen deadpool five times in theaters.
Speaker 2:Oh well, yeah, but I'm saying like just randomly like, oh, yeah, yeah, the other night I started watching civil war, nice, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, let's kind of get ready for this cool, I think I'm getting there, but I I'm gonna re-watch them like very soon in uh.
Speaker 2:Chronological order because we're not. You're just doing a order, yeah and I'm almost through.
Speaker 1:So now that I know everything, I'm going to go chronological and really enjoy myself.
Speaker 2:I would say, by the time you reach Thunderbolts you'll be there. You'll be done with watching everything probably.
Speaker 1:I agree, and then I'll be right on track.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now we're going to switch up paces a little bit and go into a torn 2018 movie. Do you pick den of thieves 2018, 2018?
Speaker 1:like I said, they just released a sequel this past month and um, which I didn't even really know about the sequel yeah, to be honest, until I told you like, oh, it's perfect timing yeah, are you gonna watch the sequel?
Speaker 2:are you excited for the sequel?
Speaker 1:now, I'll catch it on streaming yeah, I'll catch it on streaming, for sure I'm not even sure if it's in theaters.
Speaker 2:Still, um, this movie came out in 2018. I remember it being a big deal, and now that I never seen it but this is my first time watching it, that I'm watching it this is definitely is like a suburban dad kind of movie, is it? I would say so, like the only people I see getting excited about this movies are like people who don't simpletons like me, yeah, who don't live in this lifestyle Not that I say I do, but I was like this is kind of cheesy.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you Overdramatic. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2:It's like Spike TV.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you why I think I like this movie. Because this movie relates a lot to me, to the Grand Theft Auto.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent. You told me that before and after watching is like I I see what he's talking about. Uh, for those you know, this movie is about an elite units of the la county sheriff's department and the state's most successful bank robbery crew clash as outlaws uh plan to seamlessly leave impossible heist on the federal reserve bank. Uh, directed by christian uh guts gassed, also written by christian guts gassed. I'm sorry if I mispronounced that, but no, you nailed it, it's.
Speaker 1:It's good guys you're right.
Speaker 2:Thank you um.
Speaker 1:This is my first time watching it which I was surprised about, because I've seen this movie like three times really yeah, my dad always recommended this movie to me and I just kept putting it off.
Speaker 2:But uh, gerard butler plays in this. Who plays big nickel brian, that's his name big nickel brian. If this guy was a real life person, this, I feel like this is what every white cop thinks. He is in real life, like this badass outlaw who, like I, want to call him a dirty cop, but he wasn't dirty, thinks he's above the law.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know who also thinks that is the law.
Speaker 2:You know who also thinks that you know who also thinks that it's Captain America.
Speaker 1:Thinks he's above the law. He is above the law. Yeah, true, he has a vibranium shield.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of celebrities in this movie, 50 Cent's in this movie.
Speaker 1:I forgot about that 50 Cent's a very good actor Did you watch Power and all that too. Yeah, I watched Power.
Speaker 2:You watched Entourage? Did you watch?
Speaker 1:power and all that. Yeah, isn't he part you watch entourage? Isn't he in there a couple times? Uh, I'm sure he has a couple cameos. Yeah, yeah, but uh, power, power.
Speaker 2:It's an amazing show yeah, well, he's also just a great businessman too I think he owns smart water, vitamin water vitamin water.
Speaker 1:He like blew that up and then sold it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a badass, yeah, um I kind of was surprised that we didn't have a lot more of his songs in this movie, though you know what I mean. All right, let's go through the movie a little bit quick, because this movie opens up very fast paced. It opens up during an act of robbery, like this night. This crew is robbing this donut shop, but they're not robbing the actual donut shop. They're there for the Brinks truck to steal. The Brinks truck Ends up turning into a shootout. There's a loose cannon what's his name? From 8 Mile.
Speaker 1:Oh, speaking of 8 Mile was Chris Mackey, that's his name. Was he in 8?
Speaker 2:Mile yeah.
Speaker 1:Who was he, clarence At the end?
Speaker 2:Yeah, his real name's, clarence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Clarence's parents has a real good marriage.
Speaker 2:Somebody said that at work this week I was like shut up Cheddar that's the guy's name I'm thinking of from 8 Mile, that's Chris.
Speaker 1:Mackie.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Chris Mackie is Clarence. Cheddar is the other white guy in this one who starts the shooting out Cheddar. Bob Cheddar Bob, he was in this movie, but he's a lot different than what it ended up being, because it looked like he was just a wild card because he shot first and, uh, his firing wasn't justified, I think, and I thought he's gonna be a wild card and they're gonna have to turn on.
Speaker 1:No, yeah they. They prided themselves on uh, is that word prided?
Speaker 2:yeah, well, they have lived by code, yeah they don't shoot cops they don't shoot cops.
Speaker 2:They also don't shoot, like or hurt innocent people exactly you know they that they have that one scene like where they staged that he did, but they didn't really do it. So they do live by like a moral. But this one was like unpreventable after he shot a cop they ended up doing a shootout but they did get away by stealing the truck. Now the stump the cops was like why would you want to steal a Brinks truck? And my mind, cause I work, you know they have a Brink truck, but you don't know why they're going to do it. So obviously they're going to be looking for that one. They took out the GPS tracking device in there. I saw. But wouldn't you put something? I would put something on all the other Brink trucks, like locally Put, like a gold star on the side of it. Okay, this one's a gold star, it's ours, Something to distinguish it a little bit more, since you can't thing, you know you're saying from their perspective of they stole it and they want to like hide it?
Speaker 2:yeah, because that's what they were hiding it for a while, so they needed it.
Speaker 1:And if you see it on the street like say, say, they painted all the other trucks, this is why I like movies like this yeah because you could think about the planning of the heist and it reminds me of grand theft auto, because a thousand percent the main mission in grand theft auto. You're robbing the super bank in Los Angeles the Union Depository. That's exactly what they're doing here. How many times did you do that mission? Probably like 30 times, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a long ass mission, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it, but yeah, bank robbing movies are sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like I said someone who used to work in the bank, they're underwhelming. Like if you rob a bank, they were at the big one, but there was a scene like where they're robbing like a smaller local one, like in your local neighborhood. Yeah, there's not that much money that you think's in there. How much money's in there? I I don't want to say how much is in there, but like, come on, bro, you throw out a number. I guarantee it's less. It's like 50 grand.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's more than that, but I mean that's, if I walk out of there with $50,000, I'm happy $100,000?.
Speaker 2:Splitting it between like eight guys, though, you get like $50. That's solid.
Speaker 1:How much is in the bank, though? Like $250,000?
Speaker 2:Between that and maybe $500,000. Depends on like time of the year and stuff like that but it's not that much Like not worth it. I should say you can't even buy a house for $250 50.
Speaker 1:How's the security in there with it pretty fucking tight, like how tight you guys like the like the a big door with like a big handle. Yeah, I actually do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, that's, that's tight this camera's everywhere and stuff like that. It is hard to like ink packs I I'm not gonna say it because I don't want to, because I still work at this bank. Yeah, so it's not that worth it to rob a bank and serve life in prison.
Speaker 1:I disagree. I mean I disagree. So, for instance, last night, me and Pat, we were watching Eternals and they each have their little superpowers and he's like which one would you want? I said I would want to be the one that can run really fast and I would just be the biggest thief, I would just steal everything. Why don't you be like the guy who was? Like Superman, basically Because I'd want to steal that guy was pretty bad. Yeah, and he flew. That was sick yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:But if you're able to steal, you can rob banks and stuff. That'd be sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if you have powers, that'd be sick, yeah, um so if you have powers. I'm kind of fascinated by bank robberies. My high school soccer coach he was a cop, a hammond cop, and uh, he got shot. My senior year in the butt going, going to a bank robbery in hammond. Who shot?
Speaker 1:in the bank robber yeah, and then they ran. But I mean they got caught, but but he was the only one that got shot. He got shot in the butt. He was okay, that's wild, but yeah, it was like we went over to his house and he told us the story. It was sick.
Speaker 2:Was it a badass story though?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well no, he was an idiot. He just rolled up door and, like they, shot at him. Why would you just like walk to the front door? You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying I didn't tell him that, but I was like I'm glad you're all right, man. I'm glad you're doing good though, coach. Yeah, hope you're doing well. Um, oh, she jackson's in this movie. Yeah, ice cube son I was when he had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:He's coming on a lot of stuff yeah, okay, I've only ever seen him in this. And uh, shredder comptpton.
Speaker 2:I was kind of nervous about this because he came in that I was so nervous I was never going to be able to picture him in anything else but that role, because it's his dad. He looks just so similar.
Speaker 1:But he killed it. In this role he was very good, he was interesting.
Speaker 2:He did nothing crazy to make it his own role, but I like seeing him in this role turns out being like the star of the movie, too kind of yeah, yeah, at the end of the movie and the one thing I just love about heist movies like you're always guessing what's going on, you're trying to connect the dots as you're going along, because these guys are pro, they thought about every little thing and it was. It's fascinating. And then you're also getting the perspective of the cop side, trying to put it together too, and so we're mostly viewing this for the cop side, I would say. True, played by gerard butler, who's a badass. But, like I said, if you think about this character and put him in real life, like this guy's a jackass oh yeah, I thought he was a jackass in the in the movie they added
Speaker 2:that's what I'm talking about yeah, but they added, um, a lot of random characteristics about some of these characters that had nothing to do with the movie. Like he drew up, all his character was going through an ugly divorce. At the time he was a drunk and I feel like they just totally abandoned that idea in the second half of the movie. He never mentioned it. That one scene with 50 cent and his, his daughter, had a boyfriend come over to pick him up and they all scared him. It was a funny scene and nothing to do with the whole fucking movie.
Speaker 2:50 cent wasn't even a main character, like that for him to do that it was a funny scene though it was funny, but like it was kind of lame as shit. Uh, just a hater. I am kind of hating on this movie because, like I said it's it could have been a lot better. I was very entertained, though it took me like maybe two days to watch this movie because I paused halfway through. I couldn't take enough of it. It did give me that thrill of an action movie, though there's a lot of explosions a lot of gunfight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good action, it was cool. The gunfight at the end was good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What did you think when you found out who was pulling the strings from the whole thing? When you found out that it was O'Shea Jackson?
Speaker 2:so I thought that was kind of like did you expect it at all?
Speaker 1:no, not really.
Speaker 2:Nah, I was shocked, cause he thought he was just like a kid who didn't know shit. I was like gasp, yeah, and he's. He's in the second one. Him and Gerard LeBeller almost looks like they team up in the second, like Gerard Ballard needs his help to bring somebody in.
Speaker 1:But he was called?
Speaker 2:what was his name? The codename in this one Like Hot Wheels or some shit like that Getaway car. But he was a driver, I feel like this is what Fast and Furious movies wish they could have been. You know, what would you give this movie?
Speaker 1:one out of ten. Another solid movie, 8.6.
Speaker 2:movie one out of ten. Another solid movie, 8.6, I guess. Movie seven out of ten. Nice, yeah, uh, I don't know if I'll how soon again I would watch it, but I definitely want to watch these den of thieves too now definitely will watch den of thieves to den of thieves.
Speaker 1:This is like a movie, just like weeknight whatever. Yeah, like, if you want a little thrill, like I said, it's. It's like a window.
Speaker 2:If you you're a fan of the spike tv show, you'll probably like this movie you ever watch mxc on spike tv back like back in the day?
Speaker 1:it's like the um japanese like most. It's like most extreme.
Speaker 2:I don't think so, oh, dude, I'm spike tv used to have a show called like I have to send you some youtube clips me my dad used to watch all the time spike tv used to have a show called like a thousand ways, like a thousand ways to die, yeah that was a pretty sick show. Uh-huh spike tv. I don't think it's around anymore? I don't think so yeah, uh, glenn, next movie coming up is thunderbolts. You're gonna be down to see that yes 100.
Speaker 2:Did this change your character? Persuade you of a new favorite character in this movie?
Speaker 1:a new favorite, like Marvel character. Yes, well, I'll tell you what I really like this new Captain America yeah but my favorite is still Thor. He's no.
Speaker 2:Thor. He's no Thor. I could see you cosplaying as Thor.
Speaker 1:You got the beard for it yeah, well, you think I could be Thor, cause I'm fat. Uh, is you got the beard for it? Yeah, what, you think I can be Thor?
Speaker 2:because I'm fat. Is that a jab?
Speaker 1:Thanks for coming on, glenn? No, you'll be. No, thank you for having me on man. Like I said, this is my favorite podcast to come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and shout out to Pat too. He came to the movies with us. Shout out to Pat.
Speaker 1:Look for him on maybe a future episode, I don't know.
Speaker 2:And shout out to Pat too. He came to the movies with us. Shout out to Pat Look for him on maybe a future episode, I don't know. Yeah, he's in talks about making an appearance, a debut.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the next time I come on here I have a request.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I am in a musical mood. I want to watch musicals. I got you I've said it before Pitch Perfect.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I watched that movie and I feel good. So that's, I want to talk about that. And then, what about a theater movie? We can just figure that out, we'll figure that out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure there's musicals coming out this year that we can do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I plan on going to the movies a lot more this year. Okay, so I know this is five or six times.
Speaker 2:I want to end this on a pretty positive note. So I know it's kind of hard to believe, but like, let's just imagine you're captain America. What would you give the like a motivational speech to the Americans out there?
Speaker 1:My fellow Americans, citizens and all alike. Times may be bleak, but truth and freedom we will seek. We can all stand together and we can all do this thing together. Or we can stand alone and fight each other, but instead we can fight back if we stand together. So stand tall, america, stand tall. But I'm not Captain America, I couldn't give one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and some of you rhyme too. You said together like five times Nice, nice. I found my clip for the episode Well thank you. Glenn, so much for coming on. Like I said, I will keep in your mind. Who knows, maybe you'll be on for the Thunderbolts, who knows?
Speaker 1:Hey, I'm always available. I'm just a call away. I'm down to come on for Thunderbolts, though. Hell yeah, let's see next week. Everybody hang in there. It's a tough time right now, at least for me. Football season just ended. There's really nothing to do. It's winter, it's all nasty outside. There's really nothing to look forward to Until, like March, I have March Madness To watch. Until then I'm just going to be Maybe cranking out some marvel, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's a bad time well, you know what might help you. Next week episode, it's gonna be um open tabs one, but we're actually this is the first time ever we're gonna be doing tv shows on that one sick and we are doing yellowstone and landman yellowstone. Yellowstone is very good, yeah, so I'm gonna start watching that pretty soon, yeah, but, uh, next week I have a recurring guest and I'm excited to talk about it. Glenn, this is not your last time on the podcast, but I'm glad you came um. Thank you for ever listening. Thank you for checking out the popcorn buckets. Uh, subscribe to the instagram page. Uh, youtube, I'm gonna be coming on youtube pretty soon again.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, but um love you guys, man.
Speaker 2:Thank you, stay tuned next week and I'll be saving you a seat.
