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Snow White with Torie
Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot star in Disney's controversial live-action remake of their first princess film, but behind the fairytale lies a troubled production and mishandled marketing campaign.
• Rachel Zegler faced backlash from the moment she was cast as Snow White due to her ethnicity
• Gal Gadot's performance as the Evil Queen lacks dimension, continuing a pattern of similar performances across her films
• The movie suffered from minimal marketing, no premiere event, and Disney seemingly giving up on the project
• Most sets appear small-scale and artificial, with CGI dwarfs that many viewers found creepy rather than endearing
• Despite its flaws, children still enjoyed the film, highlighting the divide between the target audience and critical reception
• The production faced significant reshoots and sat on the shelf for approximately two years before release
• Rachel Zegler has regrettably become the target of criticism, potentially impacting her career momentum
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Speaker 2:sorry, this is taken sorry, all right, but welcome back to this. He's taken around your host, rob miranda. I'm excited to talk about this disney channel classic, disney clint. It was a disney channel disney classic before 2025 came out, but I'm excited to talk about this movie that it's been on my list for a minute. I did try hard to find a disney classic before 2025 came out, but I'm excited to talk about this movie that it's been on my list for a minute. I did try hard to find a disney adult for this episode. I don't. We'll find out she's a disney adult, but this is the first time on the podcast. I've been following her for a little while. She's also a movie reviewer. You can follow her on instagram. Um, miss tori came on the podcast. Thank you for so much for coming on the podcast, tori.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me I'm excited to have you in the podcast. We've been talking about this for a little while now. Like I said you, you follow me, follow my instagram page and I followed you back, and you're also a movie reviewer. Um, yeah, and I also checked out your letterboxd too. I want to talk about that a little bit, because I love your list. Honestly, it's pretty 80s and 90s, I would say that's pretty incredible. Okay, yeah, now for those of you listening, we're like I'm going to post a clip of this too. But, um, I gotta talk about your background. Right now, you're sitting in front of a giant wall with nothing but dvds. That's incredible. What do you have an idea of what? How much is there behind you?
Speaker 1:at least a thousand at least a thousand maybe more. It's a mix of tv movies, vhs, steelbook.
Speaker 2:I kind of collect a little bit of everything that is incredible I did at one point when I started the podcast I did want to start my physical medium like I had a bunch of dvds in my um, my car on amazon, mostly because, like I wanted, I wanted to collect movies that I reviewed on the podcast. Dvds are still expensive for no reason.
Speaker 1:They are yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember I had Babylon in my car forever and it just never went down in price. I was like I'm not going to spend $22 on this DVD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I keep seeing it in the clearance at walmart for the steelbook for 24. I'm like, okay, it's in clearance. Now it should go down a little cheaper, but still not now?
Speaker 2:do you have those just for show? Do you actually watch the dvds?
Speaker 1:I watch them I watch yeah, because sometimes there's certain movies I haven't seen in a while and they're not on streaming, so sometimes I'll just pop in a random movie here and there, but then I also subscribe to all the streaming services. So then just too many options.
Speaker 2:All right, I want to play a game with this a little bit. I'm going to have you pick, just randomly pick out one in the back of you and just see. I wanted to see if I've ever seen it before.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see Do blind.
Speaker 2:All right, let's say um, do blind don't, don't even look at it, just blind it just blind, blind, blind, blind.
Speaker 1:All right, there we go. Let's see, it's an old one bounce.
Speaker 2:I've never even heard of that. Honestly, is that ben affleck?
Speaker 1:yeah, and gwyneth paltrow. I believe this is when they were dating, I believe.
Speaker 2:You just blew my mind there. I didn't even know they dated, honestly.
Speaker 1:I believe so. But yeah, this was, and it was like a two DVD collector set that it came out with. Nice, nice it was the best romance of the year, supposedly according to cisco all right, give me one more, give me one more one more, one more um.
Speaker 2:Let's see another classic good fellas good fellas, I you're gonna blow, I'm gonna blow your mind. I've seen that on your list too. That's what made me think of it. Um, but I'm gonna blow your mind like I've. Only, I don't think I've seen the full thing all the way through. I know I've seen bits and parts of it, but I've never seen the whole movie all the way through.
Speaker 1:This one's a great one, but I'll have to say my favorite Mafia one has to be A Bronx Tale. That one's my favorite.
Speaker 2:I 100% agree with that.
Speaker 1:I've seen. A Bronx Tale tale is one of my dad's favorite movies that he showed it to me when I was a young kid and it has a lot of good lessons in there. Honestly, yeah, I saw, when it came to boston, the bronze tale, the musical I had to go see that, which was amazing.
Speaker 2:That was pretty cool. The only movie that I've seen play version it actually was a play first and then became a movie was jersey boys.
Speaker 1:That I loved I still haven't seen that movie.
Speaker 2:I do love the music yeah, I'm a big musical guy like. I love musicals, and jersey boy is probably my in my top 10 musicals of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just added the snow white soundtrack. I have a whole soundtrack playlist on my apple music because usually any movie if it has a good score, a soundtrack, I'm always listening to it I, I think the year of 2022, my most listened to music was um.
Speaker 2:What's the andrew garfield movie on netflix?
Speaker 1:oh, um, the one about the guy who created rent yes, tick, tick, boom.
Speaker 2:That was my most listened to music and, although 2022, I was obsessed with that soundtrack. I I loved it.
Speaker 1:I still haven't seen that movie.
Speaker 2:I need to watch that oh my goodness, yeah, it's one of my favorite. Actually, I think it was my favorite Andrew Garfield movie, thinking about it, the Greatest Showman, for oddly enough, I used to work out to that soundtrack.
Speaker 1:I have that soundtrack on repeat. I just have the wicked soundtrack on repeat um the tv show daisy jones and the six.
Speaker 2:I had that soundtrack on repeat just musicals yeah, I listen to wonka quite a bit, a little bit when I first came out that's a good one too yeah, um, I haven't done this in a while, but I wanted to talk about how some hollywood updates that I found interesting.
Speaker 2:It's going to give me a little bit of a taste of what kind of movies you're into, because it's a little bit of variety of all kind of movie genres. Uh. So let's take a look into the hollywood updates. I want to mispronounce his name first. Linda cartellini cast as jason mobb on friday, the 13th prequel show. The show will be a titled crystal lake made by a24, which is what I'm most excited about, and will be released on peacock. Peacock rumored to start releasing October of this year. If they're just getting to casting now, I kind of doubt we'll get a release in October of this.
Speaker 1:I know it would be nice to have that at Halloween. Usually the whole month of October I do 31 days of scary movies, so I try to watch this different scary movie every day, or a tv show, so I'm hoping. I'm a huge fan of linda carlini so, and of the whole friday the 13th franchise, so I'll be happy to see that I think I read that one had the most adaptations of the franchise out of all of them.
Speaker 2:Like all these horror movies, this front of the one point. He was up in space, yeah yeah, I know it's a slasher movie for sure. Like I mean, I never really got into him, or uh, freddy cougar, halloween was pretty dope. I enjoyed watching those movies. I think halloween is also getting its own show at one point. I would love to see a monster universe, something like, where they that would be really fun uh, but a24.
Speaker 2:I'm excited a24 is going to be attached to it. So I saw um a post. I don't know if you know like know about studios too much, but like neon. Someone commented I think neon's becoming the new a24. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:that's what I heard as well, and I kind of like that, because they both put out different types of movies, but I enjoy all the movies both studios have put out now this is my hot take on a24.
Speaker 2:I think it's becoming a little bit mange to mainstream now, now that it's got a lot of hype behind it I think so too.
Speaker 1:I noticed now at walmart, because that's really the only place that sells movies around me anymore. A24 now now has their own DVDs that they're just distributing themselves instead of going through another distributor, but the artwork and everything on them looks great. I'm looking forward to buying Baby Girl when that comes out.
Speaker 2:I love that was on my list to go see. I haven't seen that movie, though I heard that was a great reviews about that.
Speaker 1:But I like to see all the behind-the-scenes features and everything on the DVDs. So that's why I have a lot of movies. I like seeing all the behind-the-scenes work on them as well.
Speaker 2:That is incredible. Like that is something I do miss. I don't even have a DVD player. Thinking about it, honestly. I have a PlayStation 4 that I probably play it among if I really want, really wanted to. Uh, the next one. I love biopics and I was excited to hear about this movie. Uh, barry jenkins to direct zendaya in the ronnie specter biopic b it's called be my baby for a24 another a24 movie. Yeah, barry jenkins is known for directing movies like mufasa and moonlight. The movie would be about the lead singer of the 1960s girl group known as the ronettes. The movie. It was an early development and its release date has not been announced yet. All I need to hear was Zendaya and I'm in. Honestly.
Speaker 1:I love her and everything she's in.
Speaker 2:She was great in Spider-Man, she was great in Dune.
Speaker 1:Her show Euphoria Challenger she was incredible in.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised I'm actually upset that hasn't been talked about any Oscars or anything like that set that hasn't been talked about any oscars or anything like that.
Speaker 1:I was. I was shocked even for the score for that. I was shocked that it wasn't nominated.
Speaker 2:Do you think if that movie got released this is my big topic from the last episode do you think that movie got released, say in july or even september, it would have had a better chance?
Speaker 1:I feel like that if certain movies come out earlier, like right after award season, I think it's tougher for them once because people forget about it.
Speaker 2:So I feel like if it did a little bit before it would have had, and I think that really really got duped because like it was supposed to come out like the following previous november, and that one got pushed back because of the whole strike and everything that happened, which sucks because it could have got nominated something. I feel the same way about mickey 17. I've been praising about this movie. I think it deserves some kind of at least nomination. I'm not saying they deserve to win, but I'm recognizing. But, like you said, by the time january comes around, no one's gonna be talking about mickey 17 exactly.
Speaker 1:I still need to see that on my list.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it's incredible's incredible. I might go back to the theaters and see it again. The thing about the Oscars and all these award shows and stuff like that even before it comes out, I've seen someone post their predictions for next year already and the movies haven't even came out. Like that's how predictable these award shows are. It's like you're just going to be looking at the director, you're going to be looking at the actors and already make up the studio. Yeah, exactly, I haven't talked about really too much about oscars specifically, but anora was a big winner this week this year's oscars. Um, how do you feel about that? Do you think it deserved all the wins?
Speaker 1:so I absolutely loved it. I saw that and then the day of the oscars, I was able to finalist, finally see I'm still here and that movie was just unbelievable and I thought that should. I was happy it got best foreign film, um, but it was nice to seeing an independent film, kind of sweep at the oscars um that was good but I was.
Speaker 1:I was also shocked too, because I don't know if you saw the movie mar with Angelina Jolie. She was phenomenal in that and she did all her own opera singing and the fact that she didn't get nominated for that I was kind of shocked.
Speaker 2:I'm very kind of shocked that Demi Moore got nominated for as much as she did, not to say she did a bad job.
Speaker 1:I was talking to somebody about this. Yeah, I was also surprised about that I was.
Speaker 2:I was talking to somebody else like anybody else in that role, like jennifer aniston or sandra bull, like they would have done the exact same job. She didn't really bring too much to the table. But um, so I mean I was kind of shocked she was picked over versus more smart or other movies like that. Um, I wish I knew all for the first time. Actually, after all the nominations a little bit ago, I watched it and I was like this is the movie that won all the awards, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a little shocked as well, honestly, I was surprised how much sex was in that movie. I didn't know. It was mostly that.
Speaker 1:I had a random old man sitting next to me during the whole opening scene. I was like, okay, this is awkward.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you about my awkward encounter when I'm watching Snow White in a little bit, when we get to it. But the next update Christopher Masterson and Justin Burtfield to return in Malcolm in the Middle Revival, leaving the youngest brother, dewey, to be recasted by Ellsworth Clark after Eric Percival oh geez, I'm so bad at names has retired from acting. Were you big Malcolm in the Middle fan?
Speaker 1:Not really. I would. Always when it was randomly on flipping channels, I would stop on it because Brian Cranston's hysterical and. I liked Frank Nunes too when I was younger, so just watching that, and then I forget the actress who played the mother. She was hysterical so I knew about it. Um, but I will be happy to see that kind of.
Speaker 2:I know they're rebooting everything, bringing everything back, all kinds of shows, so I'm kind of yeah, I heard an interview with frank junez talking about like he's excited, you know, the almost everybody's coming back. The only one's not coming back, it's a little brother. But, um, you know, they're introducing some new characters. I mean, I love the idea of not rebooting but revisiting. It's only gonna be like a four or five parts episode series and I think that's perfect to give like we weren't expecting. It's really, you know, just something they wanted to do for fun. I won't or it. You know, um, I like when shows do that. I wasn't a huge big fan of the actual Michael in the Middle, but Roseanne did the same thing with the Conners. And then I'm trying to think of something else recently that was, you know, spinoff of how I Met.
Speaker 1:Your. Father yeah, gilmore Girls did it on Netflix, which. I wish they did more because they ended it on a cliffhanger so I was kind of hoping they would do more episodes. But I know, yeah, Fuller House, all those ones.
Speaker 2:It might trip, and I think I've seen something about Breaking Bad too. If I'm not mistaken, I could be making that up.
Speaker 1:Oh, I wonder. I never saw Breaking Bad. That's one show I have on my list I have to watch.
Speaker 2:I am horrible when it comes to shows. It's more of a commitment thing because like, but once the shot show has a bunch of hype built around it, there's usually five or six seasons already behind it. I was like I I don't want to sit through all this and like on top of that, most of the good shows are an hour plus long. It's too much for me. I can't. Like. I'm more of a movie guy. Like I'm in and out within two hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This other big news Amy Paschal and David Heyman closed deals to produce the next James Bond films. A lot of controversy is going on. People say they shouldn't be remade. People are already fan casting. Who should be the next James Bond? There's a lot of rumors. I don't know if it's going to be even theatrical release or a prime show or prime original. What are your thoughts about James Bond?
Speaker 1:I'm a huge James Bond fan. I loved, obviously, the original Sean Connery, I liked Pierce Brosnan and I loved Daniel Craig. I don't know. I know a lot of people want certain actors who they think should be certain British actors, which there's so many, I think, options out there. I know at one point there was talk of a female 007, which that would be cool too, but I feel like if it just ended, kind of leave it. If you're going to do a spinoff, maybe do a different character from the movies. Don't try to reboot it, just leave it as it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hate when they keep changing stuff. I'm all for spy movies Like Kingsman. Kingsman was an incredible series. I'm all for changing stuff. I'm all for spy movies like like kingsman. Kingsman's were was incredible series. Actually, I think they just announced that they're coming out with another kingsman movie too, which I'm very excited for right, I would love that and the black bag.
Speaker 2:That was a great spy I just love a good film yeah, the black bag it's giving mr and mrs smith, I haven't seen it yet I'm gonna go see it pretty soon. It kind of was mr and mrs smith ish yeah speaking of mr and mrs smith, that's another prime show that, um, I started watching but it's hard for me to keep up with. But that's a very popular show. I think a couple emmys, if I'm not mistaken, and uh, picked up for season two yeah all right.
Speaker 2:So like I got one more uh hollywood updates before getting into the snow white review, and it's probably the biggest one I've announced on. I already talked about in a long time on this podcast, but the new avengers lineup was released, partially released. Um, were you one of those streamers that stayed the full five hours for this full announcement?
Speaker 1:unfortunately no, because I was at work. But when I finally saw the whole list I was just I can't wait the X-Men people coming back. The only one I'm kind of bummed which people are speculating maybe she's lying is Elizabeth Olsen that she wouldn't be coming back as Scarlet Witch. I'm hoping she does back as scarlet witch. Um, I'm hoping she does, maybe trying to keep it under wraps like how they did with the um last spider-man movie when you go toby mcguire and andrew goffrill to come back. So I'm hoping there are some surprises, but just the cast alone looks incredible. Definitely, I'm trying to look at the full list right now, actually who was announced? But um, it's, it's a big cast and you surprises, but just the cast alone looks incredible.
Speaker 2:Definitely, I'm trying to look at the full list right now, actually, who was announced? But, um, it's, it's a big cast and you could definitely tell it was not everybody listed, because some obvious ones aren't coming back like that they have. They didn't say anything about tom holland, spider-man benedict coming back, dr strange. Yeah. Uh, elizabeth olsen has came out and said like, yeah, I'm not going to be part of it. So is chris evans. Yeah, but, like you said, we've seen this in the past and exactly, if anything, I, I, I like that. A lot of people hate that. Like, hey, like we've seen you on set though, or something like that. You know they're still denying it. Um, I got everything here real quick. Uh, chris hemsworth, vanessa kirby, anthony mackie, sebastian stan. Latina writes paul rudd white russell. I do not know how to pronounce his man name, the villain Anthony Mackie, sebastian Stan, latita Wright, paul.
Speaker 1:Rudd White Russell I do not know how to pronounce his man name the villain from Black Panther 2.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, I don't know how to read that. The guy who plays the thing? Who's playing the thing? Simo Liu, florence Pugh, kelsey Grammer, lewis Pullman, danny Ramirez, joseph Quinn, quinn, david arbor, winston duke, hannah john cayman, tom hiddleston, patrick stewart, you mckellen, alan cumming, rebecca romine, uh, james marsden, channing tatum, pedro pascal and robert downey jr. It's insane how much they released actually, and, um, I like so a lot of people are pissed the way they did it, because, like you got to sit five hours to really watch this, like they could have just made a cool video. They could have just made it. Um, and there's so much more to be announced. I'm pumped, especially when I see an original x-men coming back. For this one probably my most excited one is james marsden oh yes um with daredevil streaming right now.
Speaker 2:Do you think we would see daredevil join the big screen?
Speaker 1:I hope so. I'm a fan of daredevil um. I was bummed when they canceled all of those on netflix and then moved them to disney plus, because I was really hoping to get more of the jessica jones um iron fist luke page. I'm good on iron fist, honestly, yeah I was a big jessica jones fan so I was really hoping we would get more of that. I would like them to join, but I really think, dare devil, he should be a part of it definitely like.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think, man, what a journey for charlie charlie cox's that's the case, you know like from going carrying the netflix series to like being teased just a little bit in spider-man, no way home, um, and then just to end up on the big screen.
Speaker 2:I think that'll probably be one of the biggest applause that's seen on screen, I think it would be great as of today I don't know if you've seen it quite yet because it was late, maybe like two hours ago, like set photos from season two were released with his new suit, his black and double d suit suit.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2:It looks incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll have to check that out.
Speaker 2:Marvel is coming out with a bunch of news lately. I don't know it's tactical, because Superman's around the corner too. So I mean also one thing I didn't like about this they announced a lot of the cast from the Thunderbolts is going to be in the movie. Kind of spoiling it. Who movie? Kind of spoiling it. Who's gonna live then, you know? Because I really thought florence pew would die yeah, they should have waited a little bit.
Speaker 1:And I'm excited too for the new fantastic four, because then some of them.
Speaker 2:Maybe all of them will be in it, so I'm talking about that like even the villain's gonna be from thunderbolts is gonna be in the avengers too. So like, obviously either he's gonna change sides or he's gonna I, I don't know, he lives. I was disappointed about that. Yeah, I don't know. Further announcements are going to come out pretty soon about that. All right, now let's get into Snow White. But I want to. Before we talked about Snow White, I did want to talk about all the controversy that wrapped around this movie. This movie was hated on from day one since it was announced. I think, honestly, the movie was probably done for about two years.
Speaker 2:I would say yeah before they even tried releasing it, because they're trying a lot of stuff. A lot of the heat died down and just never did. Yeah, it's sad extremely sad because only a handful of people, like less than a handful of people on this earth, can say they played a Disney princess in real life and she was robbed of the experience.
Speaker 1:Did you see West side story with her?
Speaker 2:She was she was great in that.
Speaker 1:She was also great in the hunger games thing yeah, her voice, her singing voice is absolutely beautiful. So when I heard she was cast, I was like perfect, she already can sing beautifully, so this I mean, I don't think people were upset about her performance.
Speaker 2:People were just upset from the way she looked like her ethnicity.
Speaker 1:Exactly, which isn't fair, because people were like that, the same with the Little Mermaid when they did the live action, for that you can't.
Speaker 2:I would say this was even more like backlash than the Little Mermaid. The Little Mermaid at least had, like it, made money.
Speaker 1:I should say it did, it did make money, exactly.
Speaker 2:On top of that, they gave her like the full ride, like they gave her a premiere and everything. They didn't even give these people a premiere. I was so sad for them, like Disney didn't even roll out the red carpet for them, like it honestly looked like we just let our local movie theater down the street exactly. Yeah, it wasn't fair and then, top of that, she wore a backless dress that people are criticizing her about because, like oh, she has hair on her back.
Speaker 2:I was like come on, guys, come on they're seriously complaining about everything they can find all right, let's back up a little bit more.
Speaker 2:Before they cat, we'll talk about casting choices. Obviously, people are upset because different ethnicity and stuff like that, and then this is like also around the time of hungry games was coming out too, if not a little bit before then. So I feel like a little bit of backlash was taken off. Once I saw her singing and her performing in that movie because I thought she was phenomenal in the hundred games. Her voice is incredible. I was like who is this girl? I did see the west side story. That was actually the first um episode ever on this podcast. Um, she was incredible in that. She I I think she's very beautiful in this. Uh, she's very beautiful outside this movie. I hated her bob in this haircut.
Speaker 2:I hated her in this the bob was very bad um I felt so bad gal gadot was casted as the villain. Let me see what her name is the Evil Queen, that's all she's labeled as Gal Gadot. I defended her for years. I defended her for years and her acting abilities. A lot of my friends and a lot of people say she sucks at acting. I've come to accept it After watching this movie.
Speaker 1:She sucks, she sucks at acting.
Speaker 2:This was terrible. She was very beautiful, but like she's the same person in every single movie she does like her voice doesn't change. Her mannerisms, doesn't change she's. I did like her in the fast and furious movies playing a seductive role, but like everything else she's in like I like wonder she was just okay in.
Speaker 1:It's kind of the same. She has the looks, she's a beautiful actress and so everyone. She's just kind of hired, unfortunately just for her looks, which tickets sell when she's in the movie. But she's beautiful. I loved Wonder Woman. I'm a huge Wonder Woman fan. But seeing on TikTok people just making videos of all her different movie roles and showing her acting, and then I'm watching and I was like, oh, it is kind of all the same. And watching Snow White, I was just kind of like, oh, OK.
Speaker 2:On top of that, she sings in this movie too, like one. It's obviously either AI singing or it's not her singing, and you could have hired an actress who could sing honestly, exactly. Um, I was thinking about it, sandra bullock could have pulled that off.
Speaker 1:I think I could have seen that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely you know I'm trying to think of anyone else that I get off my head, maybe margot robbie yeah, or other somewhat broadway stars who are also acting, but they're just stone or yeah, could see that yeah, but I'll go though like I think she was casted because of popularity, like in 20, whatever 2023, because she like she was, like she was like in eight movies that year or something like that, yeah, even the small cameos, like she was probably casted around then because she was a hot actress, yeah, and then she had controversy too because she was supporting israel, she's probably still
Speaker 2:supporting israel and a lot of people didn't like it for that. People are boycotting that because of that. Her um, I don't like to follow political and stuff like that. I don't follow that but, like you know, I do know for people who are upset about her being casted in that and being cast on a lot of things further. Um, disney didn't feel like they believed in this movie either, like they just gave up like marketing for after a while.
Speaker 1:I feel like oh yeah, there wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't fair, because you're cast as a disney princess, so you think you're gonna get like all this recognition, be everywhere promoting it and all talk shows and just events, and she didn't get anything, which was sad to the point where she's having like a mental breakdown.
Speaker 2:She I don't know if you've seen the video of her on instagram, like I didn't see the video. Yeah, oh, sam she was like talking back to the people like you guys just hate to see me win. Like I cannot win, I cannot make anybody happy she was like talking back to the people like you guys just hate to see me win.
Speaker 2:Like I cannot win, I cannot make anybody happy. She was like in tears, like she was being bullied, basically it. It was tough to see and, to be honest, like her performance wasn't that bad. It wasn't terrible in this movie. I thought it was gonna be a lot worse than what it was this movie was. I'm not gonna bash and say it was horrible. It was very mid, if anything, and it wasn't because of rachel ziegler either. Um, a lot of bad writing. A lot of the actress. The villain sucked. Um, but walking out of my theater I did overhear a kid say to their parents like oh, that was a really great movie. I was like, at the end of the day, that's what that's about. That's what this it's a disney channel kid movie that exactly.
Speaker 2:It's geared towards children yeah, exactly, exactly, not only gonna be like this. This movie is based off a 1938 was the 1937 movie. This is the first disney princess movie and like, of course, it's not gonna fit in the 2025 timeline time expectancy. The way I describe this movie to anybody who watches it or wants to see it, it's a disney channel movie budget with disney channel. No, it's a disney movie budget with disney channel acting in it.
Speaker 1:I totally agree with that because I did see it the day it came out. But to be honest, I fell asleep at the end of the movie and I was like, oh no, I need to review this. So that began on Tuesday. So I went and saw it in the IMAX so I knew it would be loud and it wasn't the reclining seat so I couldn't get too comfortable. And then when I watched it I was like, wow, I really missed pretty much the whole movie when I fell asleep. And then I rewatched last night the original Snow White just to kind of see some of the differences and everything. The differences and everything. And I know the interviews in the past with Rachel Ziegler talking about how she doesn't need her Prince and all this other stuff. So when you watch the original one, it's he hops the wall, the Prince sinks to her, he's in love with her right away, never even spoke.
Speaker 1:And then he's searching for her, gives the true loves, kiss, wakes her up and then they're married. Where I like how in this one you get more of a backstory where they hang out together, more um, because obviously that doesn't happen, because where's my prince hopping over the fence and being like hi, I'm here, let's get married.
Speaker 2:But also the fact, also the fact that this man is drawing through the woods and sees a unconscious woman, is like it's very controversial right there seven little men are just sitting around exactly, I didn't even mention. You have a very appropriate t-shirt and mug today, like I'm from snow white I have my snow white shirt.
Speaker 1:I got, I always get whenever the movie, specific movies, I always get the popcorn bucket. I am loaded with lots of all the marvel popcorn buckets and cups and a lot of other movies nice, nice.
Speaker 2:Did you see the popcorn bucket for this movie at amc? I don't know if you go to amc or not I do go to amc.
Speaker 1:Yes, I did. I was depending, deciding if I wanted, if I was like I don't really need a mine cart it looked cool.
Speaker 2:For those who don't know, that's what it was it was a mine cart with like little jewels on top and it and it had like a little shovel like for you to dig in and dig out. I thought that was very cool, like if I had a space for it, I probably would have bought it and then they had them in different colors.
Speaker 1:So if you wanted to buy all of them and put them together, you could. And then with the cup they had all different colored cups and then I don't know if you can see, it had a little pin on top so you can choose. So when I went the first day this is when I got it and they had, I think, nine different cups and when I went back tuesday to the movies, there were only two of the cups left, so everyone was grabbing the cups, which was good that stuff is gonna be on clearance all the end of the next month, like it's all gonna be there.
Speaker 2:So for me, I think it might even see theater. How was your theater experience so? Was it busy, was it packed, was it empty?
Speaker 1:so when I saw it the day it came out, I saw it in the dolby theater, um, because I love the picture and the sound in the dolby, and there was a decent amount of kids. There was one little girl who was actually dressed up as snow white, which was absolutely adorable. Yeah, um, and I don't know, do you usually go to amc theaters or?
Speaker 2:yeah, amc um imagine for bigger movies yeah, that's kind of.
Speaker 1:Really, the only theater around me is amc. Um, there's one showcase, um, but I know, you know the nicole kidman advertisement always plays. So after it ended, the little girl yells that's not snow white. That's not snow white.
Speaker 1:The movie hasn't started yet but it was cute because there were a whole bunch of kids there and they all loved it. Um, and then I unfortunately fell asleep. So when I saw it the second time, there were still. There was a few older people, um, for a tuesday afternoon and a few little kids with their parents. And then, um, when I was leaving this old lady, when I was in the bathroom, she was like, did you just see snow white? I loved it. Did you love it? I was like, yeah, it was really cute, but you get all different ages an older woman, um, a little girl. When I was little I was snow white for halloween and my mom said I would walk around the house singing with an apple dressed in my costume, because it was kind of one of the first disney princesses and I was obsessed with her when I was little that's, that's incredible story.
Speaker 2:Like I, a lot of people, like you said, all ages, because it's like it's made in the 1930s. Of course, people are going to come out of the woodworks to see this movie and I don't think you necessarily want to go see it because, like, oh, I really love the cast. I think more just out of curiosity, like to try to relive your child a little bit more. It's the same reason a lot of people like when they go see a little mermaid, um, cinderella was me, like 2015 or something like that.
Speaker 1:It's oh, I love. I love that me and my mom went to see that one. Same with the beauty and the beast live action. I'll, I'll see any of them because I just love I grew up with disney movies. I love them. Same with the lion king live action. All those I love them, so I'll go see them.
Speaker 2:Yeah that, and. Aladdin, yeah I love Aladdin as well. Do you think we'll get a Pocahontas one? That one's kind of hard, that one's kind of hard.
Speaker 1:That would be hard. I would love that one. I know they did Mulan. I think that would be great if they did that. Same with the Princess and the frog.
Speaker 2:That would be nice if they did that that was in the news recently too, because that was gonna have a show on amazon prime and that got canceled not too long ago oh, that's a bummer yeah, either actress who voiced um the princess in that one. Um, she came out, spoken out very disappointed and upset she was and about.
Speaker 1:I can't remember why exactly they canceled it, but um yeah, amazon has been canceling a lot of shows that I like on there and it's I don't like it on top of that, we're getting live action like um.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, but we're getting a lot of action. Moana, um yeah, especially how the the second one just did okay in theaters. I think I was like you're gonna do the exact same thing as the first one of the first. I don't know, I don't know. It could be wrong, but I'm so over the rock at this point.
Speaker 1:I love the rock. I am a huge. I've been a rock fan since he was wrestling. I met him at one of our one of our local malls when he was the rock and he had his little hair.
Speaker 2:A little fro yeah.
Speaker 1:So I've been a huge fan of the rocks um. I think it's soon for a live action. I feel like wait a few years. You just did the second one. You don't really need to do live action everything. It's just like disney kind of. I feel like ran out of ideas. So they're just going back in the catalog and they're like, okay, we'll just do live action we're also getting live action leo alone switch pretty soon too.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I think they did. Someone, like some producer did, say that they want to try to go back to 2d movies, which I was like you don't ever see that anymore in no you don't but that'd be incredible that we I remember going like to seeing like the spongebob movie and stuff like that in the theaters and you know, even though it was 2d like who gives a fuck, it was awesome to see, yeah I know I saw all the original disney's the lion king.
Speaker 1:I remember sobbing when mufasa died in the theater. Um, but seeing all like the old disney movies it's. They're still wonderfully done. The animation was for the 90s, was pretty good.
Speaker 2:Oh man, the lion king alone. Like man, it made me. I watched lilo and stitch the cartoon the other day and I was crying they get you someone.
Speaker 1:I cried uh. When I saw snow white for the second time, I got teary-eyed. Um, when grumpy started crying, so then I lost it, so then I started crying. I was like oh, here we go, here's the waterworks um, yeah, we'll talk about.
Speaker 2:We gotta go back to snow white. We've got off track. We can go down the list because like the whole line. Well, I want to talk about costumes before we get into the actual thing. I I just said I hated her haircut in this movie. Rachel's like let's haircut. It is traditional, like it is very source material to the original movie. But you gotta think like if you're gonna change the casting, like the ethnicity, like you gotta realize like it's not gonna look good on most of them, like it to me that was so distracting the whole movie, her hair, I couldn't get past it looked better when it was wet.
Speaker 1:I liked her. They kept her hair wet. It looked nicer when it was wet, but it just when it was curling in I was like, no, you need to brush that out a little bit, a little too much uh, gal gadot's costuming.
Speaker 2:I mean, she did change her outfits a few times, but the head, the cowl looked pretty cool. It was a lot going on, though there was a lot of movements in that in the outfits, and it was very distracting because I was making a lot of noise too yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:All her jewelry and everything, all the jewels so she is actually one.
Speaker 2:I know you mentioned this already, but like who, I wish they cast an actor with a theater background because she was trying to be like very theatrical with her movements and stuff like that. It didn't look natural. But on top of that, I'm not going to blame her 100% because her costume looked very restricting. She looked uncomfortable a lot of the time. When she got the cowl with the cape, when it finally came out, it looked cool from the neck up, but the jewels and everything like that. She was trying to move her arms. I was like you're trying to make it like she's doing a Mariah Carey. You're trying to move a lot without actually moving.
Speaker 2:Yeah, make it like she's doing them right, carrie, you're trying to move a lot without actually moving, you know, yeah, um, another person who I couldn't stand was the dad in this movie yeah he was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was odd. I was sitting there because I was trying to figure out who the mother was and I was like, oh okay, she was a character in the netflix show I don't know if you saw it warrior nun. She was one of the Warrior Nuns, so it was the whole time.
Speaker 2:I forgot about that show.
Speaker 1:I know this mother from somewhere. But yeah, the father, he was kind of odd.
Speaker 2:Well, close up, close up shots of his face. He was a very handsome guy but out of like full body shots he had hair like a 20 year old but facial hair like a 45 year old. Yeah, it took me out of it. I was like I was so distracted about it and I was like I'm supposed to believe you're her dad, you know, come on, dude yeah, yeah and I was like when he died I was like good, because I couldn't sit through a movie.
Speaker 2:Senior ass, yeah, um, that's funny. You mentioned the warrior and I haven't seen that movie or the show and since it came out like I tried giving it a chance. I couldn't finish it.
Speaker 1:I know her from somewhere, and so right away I had to go on imdb and check it and sure enough, she was on warrior none uh, let's talk about the main guy in this.
Speaker 2:Well, we could talk about the young snow white lettuce movie. She was very cute and very adorable. The thing about like younger children they make them sing. It's obvious they're not seen on set and just like a voiceover, you know like I don't even know if it's the same actress singing, honestly yeah, she played her pretty cute. She had longer hair too. It looked good on her, you know.
Speaker 1:But imagine her longer hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, um, jonathan who played I mean andrew burnham, who plays jonathan, the movie, the main lead in this guy I he's the one I'm referring to when I say disney channel acting he's actually he was um on broadway.
Speaker 1:He actually has a tony award, which I was doing some research on him, but I was like, okay, I can see his voice was really good but you know what?
Speaker 2:the music was pretty decent, besides um gal gadot songs, but like the music was pretty decent, like the whistle while you work it's been nothing but all over my TikTok, that song, the duet they had together towards the end a little bit, that's a catchy tune.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I liked that one.
Speaker 2:Their chemistry. I didn't think it was too good.
Speaker 1:They didn't have too good of a chemistry in that movie.
Speaker 2:Even Rachel and Gal Gadot didn't even have too much chemistry in this movie, and I've heard they weren't really getting along at all. I wonder why that is.
Speaker 1:A lot of people were saying because Rachel was pro-Palestine and because Gal is pro-Israel, so some people were speculating. That's probably why they weren't getting along was because of that. Or maybe gal could have been upset with how Rachel was talking about the movie and interviews and stuff and the bad press it was getting. She could have been upset with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, we didn't even talk about the backlash she got from her interviews too, like she would. She would came out, like you said, like the thing I don't even know, prince, to come save me. Also, like she even came on, so like I've never even seen the original snow white and that pissed a lot of people off. Yeah, um, and recently, within like the last week or something like that, she, she posted something like saying fuck trump, or something like that, and disney was all over that shit real quick, like we're not doing this which is why I think they pulled the premiere actually so I screenshotted um a thing that showed up last night I saw.
Speaker 1:So the producer of the movie, uh, mark platt, his son, commented did you see that? I did see that, yeah yeah, that was that you can you can read the whole story so it said.
Speaker 1:He commented you really want to do this? Yeah, my dad, the producer of enormous piece of disney ip with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20 year old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for this is called adult responsibility and accountability, and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires, at the risk of all the colleagues and crew and blue-collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged, so yeah, that I mean, I mean it was very well written and it was.
Speaker 2:It was not like insulting in any way. Well, he kind of gave shots to her, but yeah, so it's a thing that, yeah, you can't say just anything you want with, especially when you're in the middle of a press tour.
Speaker 2:It's a pretty big thing, especially working for disney exactly not everybody can be mark, ruffalo and tweet whatever you want, especially being such a young actor. Yeah, you have a couple of big blockbusters underneath your belt, but you've been in the game for like four or five years, like we. Yeah, you can't use this as a platform, just quite. Yeah, like if you weren't doing your personal time, you'd have like spies that affected her career because, like as I read this morning, like as of right now, she doesn't have anything lined up and anytime soon I noticed that when I went on her imdb I looked and it doesn't have anything for future projects coming up which is, yeah, she might take a break.
Speaker 2:Who knows, she might go back to television or try television, or might go back to theater or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I know she was recently on Broadway for Romeo and Juliet. So I don't know if she'll just stick with Broadway.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it's sad, because she is very talented. Actually, isn't there another Hunger Games coming out pretty soon too? Isn't she supposed to be appearing?
Speaker 1:in that Possibly. I Not 100% sure.
Speaker 2:I think it might be fast forwarding actually a little bit to what's his name. He was in the first Hunger Games, his character, the previous winner who helps Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yes, yes Is the actor Sam Kelfin.
Speaker 2:No, which one? Is he the one who was mistaken for McC mcconaughey's brother all the time?
Speaker 1:oh, yes, yes, yes, um, I know exactly who you're talking about. Now, that's gonna bother me.
Speaker 2:So now, obviously, I know the book is coming out based around his character, like his hunger games, and I want to see they're gonna be making a movie about that one as well too, which I'm excited to see because I like that one I love the hunger game.
Speaker 1:Um what is his name? Oh, woody harrelson.
Speaker 2:There we go yeah, woody harrelson, great actor I love him um, let's go back to snow white, though. I'm not done talking about these characters yet, so I hated uh, jonathan's character a little bit in this movie. A random character in this movie who I thought had weird intentions in this movie was the guard, the, the um, the huntsman, the one who lets her go into the woods yeah, I was like, were you in love with this girl?
Speaker 2:or like I mean, supposedly he's the only person who sees the good in her heart and he felt sympathy for her. Let her go. But like it was almost kind of too weird how obsessive you were with this little girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, seriously, but that was in the original one too, the same thing they got, which I liked, how, when I saw it the original one the scene where she sees his shadow in the rock, they did that in the original film as well. The only difference is when the queen opens the box and there's an apple, he put a pig's heart in it in the original one, so there was nothing about the apple picking and making the pies, because when he takes her in the woods she's just picking flowers, so there's no apples or anything. So I like how they change some of the stuff, but the acting too, from the 1937 one. Even though it was a cartoon he was still kind of dramatic about trying not to kill her and having her run away, kind of obsessed with her a little bit uh, you mentioned one of the picking apples.
Speaker 2:How did you feel about the sets in these movies?
Speaker 1:I thought it was not, you can tell.
Speaker 2:Just it seems like a very small set yes, yes, it was all very practical, like I could tell they were physically there besides maybe a backdrop, but it was obviously like a fake tree they were sitting on. It looked plastic to me. Um, one of the things I wanted to bring up in this podcast was the town like after it became like all withered and you know, old and dusty and stuff like that. I was like this looks like the freaking same town I just seen in wicked, like how it was like just designed the kind of houses it very looked.
Speaker 2:It looked like recycled from old sets. Almost I should say it also looked like bells from um her movie, her hometown, I I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I could see it, the one set I really did like was the Seven Dwarfs house. We haven't touched on them yet, but their house was awesome. The castle was. I wish we could explore that a little bit more, because we only seen close up inside the rooms. We didn't even talk about the mirror on the wall. Very cool effects. The only thing I liked about Gal Gad godot's character how they like had a black, uh smoke or whatever you want to call it I liked that. Yeah, that looked very cool, very, very cool. That was underused, I think, um, but yeah, the the mirror on the wall it's very cool.
Speaker 2:They did the design a little bit at the end when they sucked her into. That was very cool I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, into stone. Excuse me, isn't there like a theory?
Speaker 2:out there right now like that yeah, Into stone. Excuse me, Isn't there like a theory out there right now Like that uh, from wish I I never seen that movie. That villain in that movie is actually the, the mirror on the wall. Have you seen that theory? I got to send it.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, I haven't. Yeah, you'll have to send me that. No, I haven't seen Wish. I want to see that because I am a fan of Ariana DeBow. She was also in West Side Story. She won the Oscar. But yeah, no, I haven't seen that one. But I haven't heard that theory.
Speaker 2:I like all the little Disney theories they throw in, like how the Frozen parents or Tarzan's parents. Yeah, yeah, I do follow all that stuff too, and I wish it was like maybe lean into that a little bit more in these live actions. That would be a little bit more cooler too um there's something else I was gonna say about that mirror too. I can't remember what it was, but the mirror was.
Speaker 1:I liked the mirror.
Speaker 2:The mirror was really cool yeah, yeah, and gal godot's chemistry talking to them. Oh, that's, that's what it was. The evil queens, her whole reason for wanting to steal the empire, and like the kingdom and everything like that and rule everything is like mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all? It's like who asked that? Even like who's the fairest of them all? And for you just not to be fair, like you're very like much torturing these people yeah, like you made farmers enslaved as your army, like who?
Speaker 2:yeah and you're shocked that like no, you're not the fairest of them all. I'm surprised, like that wasn't even she wasn't even the fairest at one point.
Speaker 1:Like that's kind of kind of been she was evil um, all right, let's talk about the seven dwarves.
Speaker 2:Controversy about them. This whole movie is nothing but controversies yep because they didn't use real dwarves. Making this movie, I was like I can. If you watch the movie, it's very obvious why they didn't do it. They're cartoons, like. They were very animated, like same with the animals.
Speaker 1:The animals were all. You could tell those same thing, ai or cgi, um I thought that was bambi.
Speaker 2:I thought for sure, that was bambi in the in the beginning I was hoping it was bambi.
Speaker 1:I thought it was absolutely adorable. Same with the little um little headshot.
Speaker 2:They were all adorable, the animals um, someone said that dopey stole the whole movie for them like they liked him that much. They all look creepy. They all look so creepy to me, honestly, I almost had nightmares about they were that creepy yeah, they were a little creepy um, but it wasn't, they didn't show them dopey was.
Speaker 2:He had a good side story a little bit to his character um how he was. I mean I'm not too sure how much I can't remember how much original like, how much true to his'm not too sure how much I can't remember how much original like, how much true to his story was to the movie, like I don't remember him talking at all I don't remember either and I don't even.
Speaker 1:I don't think. And the same thing she didn't teach him how to whistle. In the original one. They already knew how to whistle um. Same thing in the movie, when they sing while they're cleaning the house, whistle while you work. She's actually doing it in the original one with all the animals and they're not even home, the dwarves. So I liked how they switch it so she spends a little bit more time um with them and then added that whole story of her teaching him how to whistle to find his voice yeah, and it's kind of odd that they they didn't want to use real dwarves for the movie, but then they had.
Speaker 2:They had a dwarf in the other army they did so. That made no sense at all yeah because he wanted his cross yeah, the character, like the voices, were very funny and very suiting to the characters like uh doc and uh anger, who's?
Speaker 1:you know, anger was just his face was like it's like it reminded me of like um he looked like robin arrow, a little bit kind of yeah, kind of it reminded me the animation from the jim carrey um christmas carol oh, oh, yes, yes, yes, okay, yep, I can see that yeah, a little bit like that, mixed with live action, like Bashful, his full beard and his smile.
Speaker 2:It was just off-putting.
Speaker 1:Honestly, you could have made these characters a little more adorable. Yeah, they looked kind of rough. They really worked hard in those mines.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Christmas movies, Dopey looked like the kid from Polar Express, but just stretched out a little bit. He did. Yeah, he really did yeah I wish I would have got to see them at least singing. It was cool to see him working into the minds. I thought it was pretty cool. Um, a little bit more time with the characters or the thing would have been pretty cool. Honestly, if they get their own disney plus spinoff, I wouldn't be surprised. That'd be pretty tight I would watch.
Speaker 2:I would definitely watch that and at the end at the end, when it's like a big fight they're showing sneaking in and everything like that you think it's gonna be a big epic battle. All they do is just stand there. I was like what was that build up for? Yeah, and they just talked to the queen and then, yeah, at the end, when she comes back to try to take back the castle, like it. It was supposed to be a big emotional scene that just didn't quite hit, for some reason it like jonathan, I remember you used to own this farm on sebastian like you used to own that bakery.
Speaker 2:You know that. Yeah, it just felt random and I was like you could have a little bit more emotion in there. Also, one thing I didn't notice about rachel I that I never noticed in any other movie. She has quite a bit of underbite. That's kind of that's kind of distracting for me oh, yeah, yeah, she kind of does yeah, but nothing, I'm not complaining about her singing. Overall they did you enjoy this movie. Would you see this movie again? You already seen it twice, but I've seen it twice.
Speaker 1:First one I fell asleep, but if it was on tv I wouldn't go out of my way to see it. Or if I was at a friend's house and their kids wanted to see it or anything, I would watch it. Um, but not one of my favorite live action disney movies that they've done. Whenever cinderella or beauty and the beast, the live action is on TV, I'll always watch it because I just absolutely love it.
Speaker 2:But this one, no, not so much do you think Rachel deserves to get cancelled for all her actions and the movie performance? This movie, I think, is the lowest Disney released live action movie of all time. I think you just dethrone the Dragon Ball Z rating on Rotten. Tomatoes.
Speaker 1:Well, it'll definitely be nominated for some Razzies.
Speaker 2:Do you think this movie will be nominated for anything in like Oscar season or Emmy season?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. The only thing I could see would maybe be some of the songs um, but for acting anything like that I don't. I don't think so because I think next year the big oscar contender will definitely be the second wicked. So anything going up against that, I think, is gonna have a hard time wicked, I think.
Speaker 2:Wicked, one for best sets, I believe, and like, maybe like one or two other things yeah, costume I'm surprised it didn't do better, honestly. But yeah um, I was gonna mention about this, like it. I honestly would like to see a documentary about this movie, how it was made and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Like that would be interesting let's see how they did, how her interacting with the dwarfs. It was just regular size guys, or yeah? Well, not only that like um, but like just the drama wrapped around this movie I would like to see that like very well explained um, and, like you said, she's a very talented actress.
Speaker 2:I hope she can get some work in the future. I'll I would like to see her on the big screen. I she was great in the um hunger games, the west side story, and she looked like she had a bright future.
Speaker 1:Did you see the movie y2k?
Speaker 2:she was yeah, I did, I did actually she was I need to see that one she was okay in that movie.
Speaker 2:She was another one that didn't really bring too much. She was very from. That was her last movie that released. It's seen her from jump from y2k to this movie huge nine day thing, because she's like like just a teenager, like you know cussing and you know she's like that and it was a big change. It was a big change. I should say, um, what would you rate snow before you, before we rate it? Actually, do you have anything else you want to add to the review?
Speaker 1:I don't think so. Well, I when I was doing my research on it I was surprised to see that the director and even the writer for the movie. So the director, he did 500 days of summer, which I love that movie. But then I saw he also directed. Most of his stuff he directed were all music videos, so he is in the whole like he can shoot a good music video and then this obviously it's sort of a musical. But for the writing the script I noticed she direct, she wrote like a lot of kind of dark movies. So surprised you would have someone who's not as well known and done like upbeat movies um write the script, compared to someone I believe she wrote the movie chloe with amanda seyfried and I think was it julianne moore.
Speaker 2:Well, didn't they have to go back and do a lot of reshoots too?
Speaker 1:They did. Yeah, they had to go back and do reshoots.
Speaker 2:I'm wondering if that's why, because it was too dark?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she also wrote the Girl on the Train with Emily Blunt, so I know it was a book, but she wrote the screen adaptation. And then she wrote Men, women and and children, so she did a lot of dark movies where this is a big disney film. So you would think you would want to get someone who kind of I don't know writes happy movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, at least think like a writer from one of the other live action movies you've done. You don't think? Even if it's not a writer, you can like have some like be produce it and like overlook the script or something exactly yeah, there's a lot of things they they could have done, should have done, and I feel like I have. Midway through the point, they already knew what there was gonna be a train wrecks like fuck it, let's just release it exactly, yeah, and they decided to dump it in january, I mean on march.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised they didn't do january. Um, it could have been a great summer blockbuster. And it sucks to see rachel go through everything like this, because I don't know she she's learning how fucking hollywood works. I guess you know exactly. Um, anything else, I mean gal gadot. I don't think her career is gonna be hurt at all, which you know, unfortunate, and because sometimes I don't know she's already lined up to be I'm assuming to be in the next Fast and Furious movie because of how it ended.
Speaker 1:I've still been waiting for that yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:I mean, she just got done with brain surgery like a few months ago too, so that's the pressure up and at them like doing all this press as much as she's doing yeah what would you rate this movie? One out of ten probably a four that's a pretty solid rating. I would probably agree with you. I'll give this movie a four as well. I've judged my ratings by. So, like rewatchability, you know, like chemistry and stuff like that, I honestly don't see myself watching this movie ever again yeah, no like I said a little kid, so they like the movie a lot.
Speaker 2:So that's what really matters exactly.
Speaker 1:There was an older woman and a little kid. They enjoyed it, because the older woman obviously brings her back to her childhood and little kids they just love princesses.
Speaker 2:So she was. Do you think it's gonna be a big halloween costume this year? Maybe I don't know, that's a tough one we have so much stuff coming in between then like it's gonna be tough yeah there's a lot more.
Speaker 1:I feel like some people probably be lilo and stitcher moana yeah is moana coming out this year? I think it's. Is it coming out? I don't know. Is it coming out in november? No, the last one, wana 2, came out in november, so I don't know when the live action one's coming out actually I think elio was the next disney movie which that looks cute.
Speaker 2:They showed the trailer for that during the movie yeah, I wasn't on board for it, but then I seen the trailer. It's a cute concept and they have an alien and then they'd be friends, that kind of like. There's a scene in there where he gets in his mouth, that kind of like unsettling to me, so like I don't know how. Well, yeah, yeah, uh. What other movies are you looking forward to come out this year before you?
Speaker 1:go um. Let's see, I just saw the poster announcement, for I know what you did last summer I did see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the original cast is coming back too yes, I'm very.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing that when I was little and being absolutely terrified and buying a bootleg version at the train station, where it was someone with the big video camera sitting in the movie theater recording it and people walking by. I wasn't old enough to see it in theaters yet, so the closest was buying it from a guy at the train station. But I'm excited for that, the fantastic four. I'm also excited to see the new Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega, the death.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more trailers are coming about that are and what's his name's in there too? Um, the young guy he's. He's blowing up right now what's the yes, he has the eyebrows.
Speaker 1:He was in guardians of the millers, yeah yeah, at the millers and he has a new movie coming out. I want to see with daisy edgar jones and jacob alordi um, that one is called. That one looks really good.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've seen him in dope sick on the the show with um on hulu. It's a short series, so great he's amazing in there yeah, he's a good actor um that movie looks great um he also announced the movie with uh chris evans and pedro pascal and dakota johnson, if I'm not mistaken oh, materialist.
Speaker 1:Yes, I want to see that.
Speaker 2:That looks good I don't know anything about it other than the poster the poster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I saw the trailer for it. It looks good. It looks like she is a matchmaker and so she matches people, and then she meets Pedro Pascal's character and he's rich, and then her old friend who is just kind of a waiter is Chris Evans, it looks like, and so it's kind of her the romance comedy though exactly. She's torn between someone who's known her and she grew up with, or a rich man who's paid the pass. That would be a tough one to choose between the two of them.
Speaker 2:Man Pedro, has blown up in the past eight years and it's incredible to watch his career take off. I love it. You mentioned Daisy. What's her name? Daisy Edgar Jones.
Speaker 1:Daisy Edgar Jones. Yes, she was in Twisters.
Speaker 2:She was also in Fresh. She's another one. I'm enjoying watching her career. Uh, take off. She's, she's. I think she's great, she's I do too one pal is great. You mentioned twisters. He has a new movie coming out pretty soon, he's actually coming out with a very diversity movie. He's coming out like playing very different characters of like. I think that someone he's playing out, some kind of loser or something like that his transformation is.
Speaker 1:He's a great actor he's great and I heard he's going to be. Supposedly they're looking to kind of reboot the texas chainsaw massacre yeah, I did see that he's looking he might be in that which I love. That film um.
Speaker 2:I always describe him as um. I think he's our generation's n McConaughey.
Speaker 1:I could see that. I could totally see that I love him. He's great. He's been around for a while, so it's finally nice to see him being the leading man in things.
Speaker 2:I think his first role was in the Spy Kids. I think so yeah yeah, he's a good actor with the actor's track ending last year or the year before and we're still seeing the effects of it. Do you think soon we're gonna get back in the groove of things, because last year sucked to movies?
Speaker 1:oh, it did. It was awful. Um, I'm hoping so, because I'm seeing every time I go to the movies now and I see all the new movie posters, I'm counting like each one. I'm like, okay, I want to see that one, that that one.
Speaker 1:I feel more and more movies are coming out in the theaters, but then also there's so many that they're coming out with on the streaming services which I keep up with. It is there's new movies all the time which I'm kind of bummed that the new Russo brother movie with Bobby Brown wasn't a movie considered to be in theaters than just netflix because didn't really get all the publicity and everything. I still haven't seen it me neither but netflix.
Speaker 1:That's the reason I feel like they're raising the cost is because they're making all these big blockbusters. Well, that they hope and wanting to pay all these big stars.
Speaker 2:I haven't even seen Miles Teller and Anna Taylor-Joy's the Grunge on Apple TV.
Speaker 1:I really want to see that I absolutely loved that movie. That was a great movie. I'm a big Anna Taylor-Joy fan and she was phenomenal in that Mine too.
Speaker 2:Miles Teller is incredible. I've been waiting for it, him, he has. He's been kind of quiet lately. This is the first movie in like since maverick, if I want to say, if I'm not mistaken yeah, I would say I yeah he's great. I want to see him come back a little bit more and I also curious to see if they were bringing back for a marvel movie as mr fantastic, if they're bringing all these um variants and you know, since they are, they should that'd be pretty sick, like a council of reeds, you know.
Speaker 2:We've seen that in the comics before yeah um well, tori, I cannot thank you so much for coming on the podcast for the first time. It was great talking to you. I definitely like I'd love to have you back on sometime soon um yeah, yeah, very fun, like good hollywood updates, you know.
Speaker 2:And we dove deep, pretty, pretty deep into Snow White, like I said, next Disney project is Elio, but I'm curious to see what Disney's going to pull, because they announced they're going to be working more on quality versus quantity, so we'll see what that is. Yeah, last minute movie recommendation for listeners out there. What would you recommend?
Speaker 1:Let's see. I would have to say one of my favorite movies about movies is cinema paradiso. No, so it's an italian film. It came out in the 80s, it won the Oscar for Best Foreign Film and it's about a little boy who works at a movie theater in Italy and the man who works in the projection booth gets injured and blind and so he, as a little boy, is helping him do the movies in Italy at the old theater where they had to censor all the movies so they had to take out all the kissing scenes. So it takes place like in the I'd say, probably the 40s or 50s. Then when he gets older he becomes a famous director. So it's him kind of going back to Italy and recalling like everything in his whole childhood, just growing up with the movies. That is just the soundtrack and you're, marconi, beautiful score. It's just. If you love movies, that's just a great movie about interesting.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have to definitely check that out. Definitely check that out. Um, my girl, she's in the bollywood movies, so we're gonna be checking out some of those pretty soon too so bollywood bollywoods are fun too. I like those as well yeah, yeah, I have to let you know what I think about them because, like I never tried them before, I never tried them for I'm going in there open-minded.
Speaker 1:Hopefully she's steering the right direction, but yeah, I'm doing that if you like musicals, there's lots of good dancing and some of those things good all right.
Speaker 2:Um, once again, thank you for coming on the podcast. Thank you for everyone listening. Um, it's a great episode. I'm excited to really uh release this one out. Um, thank you so much. No problem, thank you for listening again. Uh, follow. I'm going to tag tori and all the instagram pages so you can go follow her pages, see her reviews. Um, you can follow you on letterboxd.
Speaker 1:You got to link your letterboxd on your instagram too, because I that's why, that's why I ended up asking you I need to update it a little bit more because I'll go through each year and just any movie from the 40s on. I just go through every movie I've seen.
Speaker 2:I'll just try to like it and add to it yeah, yeah, definitely, um, follow both of them on the box. We're both pretty active on there. I would say um thank you for next week. I believe it might trying to think what next week might be. I don't think there's any movies coming out that I wanted to see next year, next week, next week actually, it's the minecraft movie.
Speaker 1:I'm not seeing that movie, yeah I know that just yeah, I'll wait for that, but to be on streaming I doubt I'm going to see that even then, yeah, but um, next week it might be an open tabs.
Speaker 2:I might have another special guest coming on, so I'm excited to get into those. But thank you for listening. Stay tuned next week where I'll be saving you a seat. Bye.
