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Coffee, Connections & CinemaCon: The Week That Wasn't with Fernando Jimenez

Robert Miranda Season 1 Episode 166

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We recount our disappointing experience at the Podcast Movement convention in Chicago which fell drastically short of our expectations, then discuss exciting movie news from CinemaCon.

• The stark difference between our successful Podfest experience in Orlando and the business-focused, unwelcoming atmosphere at Podcast Movement
• How the Ambies award show became the highlight of an otherwise disappointing convention
• The challenge of networking at a professional event where most attendees remained closed off
• Major movie announcements from CinemaCon including Spider-Man 4, Beyond the Spider-Verse, and multiple John Wick projects
• The rise of daytime "coffee parties" as an alternative to nighttime clubbing that we're bringing to Northwest Indiana

Join us Sunday for our first-ever Coffee Party at Cielito Lindo Cafe in Whiting, Indiana from 11am to 2pm - bringing the daytime coffee club trend to Northwest Indiana!


Podcast Convention Expectations

Speaker 1

excuse me , is anybody sitting here ?

Speaker 2

sorry , this is taken sorry , welcome back to this . He's taken where I'm . Your host , rob miranda , got a brand new episode . No movies , but definitely movie talk in this episode . Um , it's just been crazy this past week , I would say . I haven't had a chance to go to the movie theaters because I've been pretty busy in chicago for another podcast convention , um , with my co-host and semi-producer , fernando jimenez what's up , guys ?

Speaker 1

thank you for having me on again . This is like the fifth , fourth , sixth since the beginning of the time .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the podcast . This is probably your probably 10th .

Speaker 1

Honestly , I feel like you've been on a lot I'm not the most uh guests on here , but I've been on here a lot .

Speaker 2

You're probably definitely the top five between Brandon Cole , glenn and I don't know you might be top three .

Speaker 1

I might be top three .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you might be top three . We're going to be talking about what the convention we were in Chicago , but this is also a big week for movies just because CinemaCon has been going on in Las Vegas . Yeah , a big week for movies just because cinema con has been going on in las vegas . Yeah , had I known the turnout of this podcast convention .

Speaker 1

I wish I would have went to cinema instead .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , the whole . We went to um podcast convention back in january that we recapped in this video that we recorded in orlando and that was like a great episode and that was just a great week everything about that week was just really really good .

Speaker 1

Everything , literally .

Speaker 2

We went in there not knowing what to expect and , yeah , there were some disappointments , but overall it was a good trip .

Speaker 1

We learned a lot . I would rate it 10 out of 10 on that trip .

Speaker 2

Yeah , well , I think what helped that trip a lot , it was in Orlando . We went to Disney Springs every day .

Speaker 1

It was a vacation business trip and we learned a lot .

Speaker 2

We learned a lot . We made a lot of connections , so I think that definitely raised our expectations for this one .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and we were let down , tremendously , tremendously , we were let down . The event really did not go at all how we thought , like literally at all .

Speaker 2

You know what I was going to say ? This for the second half of the episode . Let's just go dive right into it .

Speaker 2

The event we um went to was podcast movement , yeah , and it's one that I think that's mostly in chicago , texas and dc and dc yeah and this is definitely more the business side of podcasting how to monetize , and not just equipment , but , like I don't know how to stream your podcast , where the pod fest that we went to in January was more on the creative side- yeah , and then it was more on the creative side and it also wasn't because we were like our biggest complaint about pod fest in Orlando was that it wasn't .

Speaker 1

There was not a lot of creative people , you don't I don't know if that makes sense Like we felt like we were like more of the content creators than anyone else there at pod fest , yeah , but than anyone else there At Podfest At Podfest , yeah . But what I liked about the one in January was that we saw people outside recording podcasts , making TikToks , kind of in their element . And then when we came to the Chicago one , I think the reason why we were so excited is because their marketing is way better than the one in January . So the event itself was like hyped up , it looked really cool , it has way more followers on their instagram page and when we get there , um well , the first night was like an award show yeah , we'll go through day by day and then yes , I think overall like it .

Speaker 2

It just did not meet the expectations no about it , kind of lame , like , like really was .

Speaker 1

I don't want to be mean , but it really was like it was lame , like I , we .

Speaker 2

If we had fun , it's because like we were having fun you know what I'm saying but like we didn't meet any nice people , it was very intimidating and I'm sure like people weren't there intentionally being like off putting uh we I wouldn't say we're underdressed , because we just wore like our regular clothes there's people in suits there , briefcases and the part that's so much like laptops , like yeah , every single person was on their laptop like what work are you doing right now ?

Speaker 2

you're supposed to be making connections right and a lot of the same panels and the same booths . There . We're mostly the same as podfest yeah so it's not like we learned a whole lot there either . Yeah , it's true , we mostly went for the connections , but I think we gained two followers .

Speaker 1

Yeah , man , that was sad .

Speaker 2

I'm not even confident they're going to follow us by the end of the week so yeah , no , that was pretty sad . It was sad and Podfest was great . Like you said , it was more creative side and we definitely were the cool kids there 100% .

Speaker 1

This one we were the lame kids I wouldn't say lame .

Speaker 2

We were the outsiders .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we were the newbies . We were like the new kids .

Speaker 2

Yeah , this is a four-day long thing , starting on Monday all the way to Thursday , which we didn't even go the last day because we were just like this is kind of a bust .

Speaker 1

I was pretty upset I'm not going to lie Like when we went out to eat on the second day and like we wanted to go to like the after party , like I did want to go , and then I was like I don't want like rob to think that like I don't want to go . But then I was like bro , I was like we don't have to go , you know I didn't want to .

Speaker 2

I didn't want to be a buzzkill either .

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying . I didn't want to be like we paid for this shit for nothing you know like I was thinking the same thing , though , but at the same time I'm like dude , like I don't care , at this point another difference between podfest and this one .

Speaker 2

Like we , um , we went to podfest for free yeah , that was .

Speaker 1

We got invited for free .

Speaker 2

That was awesome and then this one . We did pay pricey tickets , yeah , um . So let's go to day by thing , and

Day One: The Ambies Awards Show

Speaker 2

I also want the second half of this podcast . It's gonna be a shorter episode . Uh , we're gonna be talking about some updates that came released on CinemaCon 2 that I found really interesting .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 2

So the first day it was a Monday we went to work the full day , because all that day really was was picking up our passes .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

So we went straight from work and we were debating should we go home and change and ? He's like all we're doing is picking up passes and we were just kind of seeing their vibe there .

Speaker 1

And for vibe with them . And for those you don't know , this was also taking place in mccormick place , the biggest convention center in the country .

Speaker 2

It's huge and it's so big like I didn't even know this part of the freaking convention center was there yeah , there was parts that I've never been to or knew that existed so , um , it's like a freaking . You've seen , have you seen severance ? No have you seen like references or clips of it , like the long white ?

Speaker 1

oh yeah , that's exactly how it was to get in there .

Speaker 2

We had to go through so many hallways just to get to this giant convention center . So we get there and , um , we did able to go pick up our passes , which is in this very cool bar area .

Speaker 1

Yeah that was really cool .

Speaker 2

That was the coolest part , probably I wish we could have explored that a little bit more . So we picked up our passes and then we went into the actual convention center where we went to go see everybody and look it up . And it happens we didn't really know until the day of that there was an award show for podcasts the Ambies .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Which we're going to get into a big announcement in a second about your podcast . So we went in there and it was very cool . We had it registered in there , we got wristbands and everything like that , and I'm assuming you don't have to submit your podcast to this thing because you were nominated .

Speaker 1

Yeah , man , it was very unexpected . Thank you to the academy , for I think it was really cool because , like I mean , I haven't uploaded an episode in like a month we're talking about a little shy more than a month . You know what I'm saying , but I guess , uh , it's made a big impact on that short time and because you were nominated for best interview podcast , yeah yeah , with like top contenders too .

Speaker 2

I can't remember off the top of my head yeah , neither can I but literally besides your podcast , I haven't heard anyone's podcast on this panel . So we go there . It's like a legit war show . It was streaming , live streaming . I don't know if you can go in there and find it again .

Speaker 2

I haven't tried to yeah , I haven't tried either from the actual live stream , because I'm assuming that big screen was like what everyone saw at home . It looked way bigger and cooler than what it looked like the oscars , almost but you know what that's what like award shows are meant to do .

Speaker 1

So when I went to um the billboards like I didn't get to go to the actual award show because I had to come back , but um speaks and my other friends that I met there , they were telling me that it's pretty much staged so they make you sit like up front and then when anybody some , whenever someone's going to win an award , they have seat fillers yeah so then when they're like , let's just say , like a band of like 20 people or like grupo frontera , let's say there's like six of them , right ?

Speaker 1

so when they're going to go up , they make sure that someone is sitting in their seats when they're going to go in , so that it doesn't look empty , so that their seat fillers they push them up to the front so it makes it look way bigger on camera than it really is .

Speaker 2

I talked about this before . What an awesome job to have a seat ?

Speaker 1

yeah , that'd be cool .

Speaker 2

You're sitting next to different celebrities the whole hour .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and pretty much like the the nicer you look , the closer you are to the front . That's pretty tight . That's pretty tight . It's a real thing , bro . Look into it um .

Speaker 2

So I want to talk because this is , to me , the coolest part about the whole trip the ambis yeah and the ambis . Like I said , it's a podcasting award . They had a uh famous comedian . I thought she was famous , like a lot of people there haven't heard of her I mean she is famous take take what's her name I don't even know her name , right , I didn't ?

Speaker 2

she kind of reminds me of ellen degeneres she gives that vibes , but I did see her in an episode of the Office . This is how I mostly know her . But she is a comedian . She has her own podcast . She's done several specials and I think I have her on a couple shows Smaller scale .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

But she carried the whole show . She was very funny . Yeah , she was funny she was a good host . And and I yeah , I liked it just for that . So throughout the whole podcast awards ceremony , like there was podcast categories , I realized there was a lot more like storytelling podcast thing , Like yeah , like reenactment , like , like it's almost like you're watching a television show , but with through the podcast . Yeah , and those were a lot of the categories I was feeling like .

Speaker 1

I didn't even hear . I like there was a lot of podcasts that I didn't even know about , but , um , I guess there was like whenever some people would win , like people would clap like really loud for people . And there was also , like even some podcasts that won that like didn't have a big following , which that was really cool , like the , the one that it was like a kid's news show . Yeah , you know it didn't have many followers , but still , like I think well , because the academy is the one who picks , you know , which I thought was pretty cool , which you wanted to be a part of .

Speaker 2

Well , they , they did offer , like at the end , like a qr code , like you can sign up to be a part of the academy .

Speaker 1

But then I think I looked , saw like you gotta pay to be a part of the academy no sense I was like I'm good on that yeah , I'm trying to be the one getting paid right exactly , I'm trying to be the one nominated , like I was gonna go in there , nominate myself and then there's also , like the podcast I listen to are comedy podcasts .

Speaker 2

That's my favorite ones yeah and there's only like one category that , and of course are big celebrities like conan o'brien's um .

Speaker 1

I'm surprised , jake johnson , I'm surprised those were nominated only because I I thought it would be like just a completely different category . How are you going to put someone who has millions of followers with someone ?

Speaker 2

who has maybe hundreds ? They didn't even win .

Speaker 1

Yeah , which is ?

Speaker 2

weird . I think they did that on purpose , because one it's obvious they're not going to show up .

Speaker 1

Which is how you could . Yeah , because , like I said , they're Academy picks so you can go up against . I don't even think it's about stats . I think it's more on just what they feel is best yeah , 100 .

Speaker 2

Uh , because I love conor bryan's podcast and there was also smart list with uh , jason bateman , sean hayes and uh , I'm shoving me nuts . I'm sorry I forgot his name , but it's a very funny interview podcast that I listen to every week , um , and we get to your category the best interview podcast . Yeah , which listen to every week , um , and we get to your category the best interview podcast yeah which even like as ourselves , like we're listening to all these categories , I was like I don't even think we could fit into most of these categories .

Speaker 1

No , like , no . Well , you know what I mean . I obviously fit into the interview one yeah there was . There was a hollywood one , wasn't there ? Wasn't there like a movie one ? There was a one something like that , but like but other than that , out of like the 20 categories like yeah there were some people who were nominated more than once . It's like we only had like one opportunity to be nominated , you know and that's on top of that , like um .

Speaker 2

Almost every single podcast that was nominated was backed up by a big studio yeah , they were like spit , what was that big sponsor npr npr .

Speaker 1

Amazon um yeah , all that stuff which we're independent .

Speaker 2

We do literally everything ourselves which is why isn't it great quality ?

Speaker 1

is that what indie ?

Speaker 2

what is indie means independent um , yeah , yeah , but I'm assuming there was a category the best independent podcast where it's like a staff of four or lower okay , and we're , definitely , we're literally do everything ourselves and that's why I don't know one day , like I honestly , like after that first day , I was like all right , I kind of want to make it a goal of myself to be nominated .

Speaker 2

And I looked into it . There's a lot of podcasts , yeah , award shows , oh yeah . Yeah , the ambis is just one of them , but like you didn't have a celebrity in there but also the same time I was the only one in the whole audience , I felt like who knew this guy ? John ?

Speaker 1

cryer , but now that you mentioned him , like he is pretty , he's really popular though john cryer is .

Speaker 2

Um , he plays alan on two and a half men . He's also ducky in 16 candles . Uh , he's a lex luther in the cw shows . Yeah , to me , I love him . He's hilarious , I like him a lot , and I was 10 feet away from him . I really didn't want to go up and say hi , but you don't want to be that guy I ? I don't know he did . He was talking to people but , like I'm sure , like some of his people , he knew .

Speaker 1

But he did come out there and present

Day Two: Netflix Coffee & Disappointment

Speaker 1

a few awards too , which is very cool yeah , because , like when , when we , when the award show ended , we went to like the very , very front . That's where , like all , like the celebrities yeah , we're bigger bigger podcasters were at and they were all like mingling and I each other , yeah , and I didn't want to be like cut in front of them . You know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

Like if you see like two popular people talking , you don't want to like go and also we were underdressed for this too , like people thought this was the oscars , that's all yeah , there was like people who were like really dressed up , like there was like guys and like really nice suits , girls , and dresses and heels , and then like we weren't underdressed , it was business casual yeah , we were from work exactly , so I was wearing like a sweater and some and I was wearing like a dirty flannel emphasis on the dirty .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so that was the first day there we left .

Speaker 2

We got home like around 8 , 30 , 9 o'clock that night yeah um , I guess there was like a party or like I don't know about a party , but like everyone we saw at the award show , we didn't see throughout the whole week nope , like they literally came , collected their awards and did and did I I followed john cry . I looked on his instagram to see maybe he posted something about it . Didn't even post anything about it so that's all you know . Like he didn't give a fuck about this yeah , I followed that twitch streamer .

Speaker 1

Uh , I think it was caroline the like korean the korean or japanese whatever , she was fun , yeah , I don't think she was at the at the fest anymore .

Speaker 2

They were like I said , they were just there for the award show yeah , and after that anybody who was at the conference was like for marketing purposes or networking so cut to the next day , and the biggest thing that caught our attention was , like every morning there was a coffee hour with Netflix .

Speaker 1

Bruh .

Speaker 2

And we thought Netflix executives or producers or somebody was going to be there .

Speaker 1

I don't even think Netflix was there . They knew how to market that event . I'm telling you that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and all this was like , yeah , you get a free coffee , but all it was like a Netflix sleeve for your coffee . Other than that , it's just people trying to sell you shit yeah .

Speaker 1

So the event was and , like I said , they titled it very , very well says come grab some coffee with netflix . You know what I'm saying like . So I'm thinking like , dude , netflix is going to be there , I think . I'm thinking they're going to have like movies in the background there's going to be people like talking and networking , which there like was , but like not a lot , like not . The expos at the one in January were way better .

Speaker 2

I thought that we were confused on what Netflix has to do with podcasts .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so I guess Netflix does podcasts now . I guess , yeah , so pretty much it was titled Netflix and Coffee , but the only thing Netflix had to do with it was they probably paid for the coffee .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's it Probably . Other than that , like All the booths were like , well , I produced my podcast to buzzsprout and , uh , it was just people hosting like that , like buzzsprout pages .

Speaker 1

There was um , npr , uh , the red circle there was a lot of companies that I had never heard of yeah , which isn't bad .

Speaker 2

It was cool that they were there , but I was like , why would I want ?

Speaker 1

to switch exactly . You know , yeah , but yeah . So that's how we started our day . Well , this is the highlight of the day was that , since we were going to chicago back and forth , we were like you know what , let's make fun , let's make some fun out of it , let's go to a new coffee shop every day so we did , we did that .

Speaker 2

Uh , we got us went to like a mexican coffee shop in the beginning . Uh , the first day I can't remember what it was called so it was called .

Speaker 1

It's either called el or la . It's la malinche , which is . I don't know what that means . I think it means like aztec or indian or something like that it's a cool mexican owned yeah and themed yeah , restaurant which we got a cool bagels from too .

Speaker 2

And then the second day we went to this very , very hidden spot what was it called ?

Speaker 1

okay . So I actually meant to send you this post . I didn't send it to you . So this spot is called hero coffee and it is literally downtown chicago , but it's hidden . It's like in a little alleyway . So that building like because you know how it's like a little alley , yeah , so that building there is from before the chicago fire , so that used to be like a farm and then that was one of the buildings that did not burn down , so that building itself , in the middle , that's the coffee shop . It's literally like the size of this room which was like 10 by 10 yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

So like you go in there and you just order your coffee and your food and you leave and it's super cool , super aesthetic , um , and then they built buildings around it , but in the middle it's that's still from like , from like the shit , like the 30s or the 20s and stuff like that , so I'll send you the screenshot about that . But it's really cool . It's called hero coffee . We had , uh , one of their popular lattes called a teddy gram latte really , really good . Today we're drinking whole foods .

Speaker 2

I've got this guy on coffee , I know I was never coffee before I started working with you , no , um , so we did that . And also , like you know , there was different panels you can go to and listen to , like . Like I said , we already knew a lot of the information we knew maybe like two panels that we were kind of like learning .

Speaker 2

It was mostly about video editing , videoing . But the cool thing about this , like this giant stage room , there was three different stages and you can sit in front of whichever one you want , but there was three different speakers . So to avoid like you can't understand it because you're hearing somebody next to you or just overlapping , like that they give every single person in their headphones .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

And you can change the channel to hear a different speaker . So if you want to sit in for this one , like it's monetizing your podcast , or this one is like getting new followers or something like that , you would just change it .

Speaker 1

And the colors of the headphones would change from blue , green or or , yeah , red . So for those of you guys who like have been to like music festivals , it's like a silent disco . So you could like put on headphones and you just like . If you want to listen to , like whatever dj like yeah green , red , blue you just put it on and then you're just like it was cool , it was really cool because we're like one . One speaker would be boring , and then you would be like yeah , listen to the next one .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it was . That was a cool aspect of it , but we were our badges to get in through . Everything was labeled as creators and that's like the lowest , I guess , tier of everything .

Speaker 1

Yeah , which is crazy , because at podfest was there only one pass , it was just creator pass , right ?

Speaker 2

no , there's creators and other things , but like , at least that got us in everywhere . You can go to everything , like anybody can go to anything there yeah this one , like we got turned away , but now you guys are just creators , which is wild to me because , like I guess maybe because like creators they say , like are the face of the podcast , and because we do everything like we thought we would . But you know what ?

Speaker 1

so , out of all the , I've only been to a couple events , but the podfest one , the creator one , that pass could get you anywhere . And then there was also , like sponsors , like people who were working there yeah and then at this one , the creator pass was like the lowest pass you could get almost anywhere , except for some panels , and then everybody else had like , uh , sponsors or media or like brands and stuff like that . You know , which I thought was crazy ?

Speaker 2

because we didn't see a lot of creator passes , we saw more like business ones or whatever yeah , and , like you said , it was just so hard to make connections everyone seems so unfriendly there and then I was like I'm gonna try the justine uh , justine uh approach , like fail for those who don't know . Like how I made friends with justine there , who's been on this podcast for the mental health episode . I was like that that teacher sucked right and I just nearly started dogging on this person and then , yeah , that was right , it's like I tried it again .

Speaker 1

Nah , it did not work like this person was like no , everybody , I'm trying to listen . I was like , yeah , for real . Yeah

Comparing Conventions: What Went Wrong

Speaker 1

, she's like I'm actually trying to listen and I was like so we just walked away , yeah everybody was just like and there's nothing wrong with being professional , obviously , you know , but it just was not our vibe , like I really thought that I was going to be like making tiktoks and taking pictures and no like also podfest had like a lot of things outside like we were playing ping pong in the freaking lobby .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and we made so many friends and this one like had nothing going on no , they had coffee there and the coffee wasn't even that good .

Speaker 2

No , she was ass , yeah . So then , um , the day we started the day like around at the actual convention , maybe like 10 o'clock , states like 2 , 33 o'clock at the latest yeah and I said we had more fun than ourselves because we went out to eat every day Like we went to Chinatown had a great dinner . Man , that show was so good . Shout out Byway . Because we went out to Byway to try out their new menu in Hammond .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

And then we didn't even bother going the last day .

Speaker 1

We didn't even bother going in Well , so I'm glad we didn't go the last day . It would have been nothing .

Speaker 2

And , like you said , there was parties at the end of each night . Shout out Wally Green .

Speaker 1

Yes .

Speaker 2

Because one of the who we met at PopFest , one of the after parties to get together was at his club that we met him and he had a Kia's ping pong clubs throughout the whole country and one's in Chicago when his after party was there and it's just the ping pong bar you in one chicago , when his after party was there and it's just the ping pong bar , like you just go play ping pong .

Speaker 2

That's a pretty cool flex , like oh yeah I know the owner and then we were gonna go but , like you said , we're just tired and like weren't feeling it . I was like do we really want to hang out with these people even more ?

Speaker 1

that we don't like yeah and we didn't go and we've seen tiktoks and reels of um the actual party afterwards and it looked lame as fuck yeah , it looked really lame so we're kind of glad we didn't go um , in which I would like to go to the club eventually , yeah , but um , yeah , we didn't go the same thing with , like , there was the get-togethers at the bar afterwards and if , whoever you come with there , that seemed like who everyone was just talking to I'm glad you said that , yeah , because I didn't see other people trying to mingle or network , because and I hate comparing it to the other one in January , but in January if we saw one of our friends talking to someone else , we would join and introduce ourselves , or vice versa , people would come and introduce themselves to us .

Speaker 1

And here it's like we try to do the strategies that we did at the other one . We went to the bar and I think that because the convention center was so big , we didn't know if those people were here for the , the podcast convention , or if they were just there for like , regular work yeah , you could another convention going on too right next door .

Speaker 1

Yeah so you really couldn't tell the difference which . And in , uh , podfest in orlando , everybody was there for podfest . So you know , whenever you networked , you know they were there for that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , um were pod fest . So you know , when you never you networked , you know they were there for that . Yeah , um , anything like me , the people at the bar people were just there for lunch , like I didn't want to interrupt them while they're eating , you know yeah , and then , like you had to like to sit down , you can't just like sit down and also like I brought business cards to the pod fest .

Speaker 2

No one was even exchanging cards or maybe like a couple , a couple people yeah , we did get a car for one podcaster , but um she had like over 30k followers like she didn't need us . She don't need us , bro . Yeah , I hadn't followed her . No , I'm joking are you . So that , um , it was kind of a bust honestly , and I think we said like the first day there I was like I'm honestly good on these kind of conventions for a minute , maybe if we get invited again to podfest next year I would go to that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I was thinking that too . I'm done with going to events like this . I do have some more planned out , but I mean I'm just trying to do something else instead .

Speaker 2

Well , on top of that , we knew all this information . We could honestly have spoken at this thing .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , the only reason why we went was because we were excited to network . We were excited to meet other people , to gain more followers , to maybe . I think that the biggest thing that we were excited for was that we were going to be like hey , like maybe we can meet people from the Chicago area , yeah , and then we could start bringing them on our podcast or we can be guests on their podcast . So that that would have really helped us expand here , Because I mean , in Indiana dude , I mean besides me and you , I'm trying to think of someone else who has a podcast he's just his friend oh yeah , but like less than five people , you know yeah

Speaker 2

like for sure , less than five people and part of the reason why I was excited to go to this too . There's this guy who reached out to me , who wanted to start his own podcast , and I was gonna take him with us to like , so we can learn together I'm glad he did not come with us .

Speaker 2

I know we did talk about big game , like trying to get a lot of people from podfest to come out there with us and I'm glad they didn't show up because I would have been a waste of money for them yeah , I would have felt terrible .

Speaker 1

We could have showed them around chicago , which would have been cool , but yeah , and it's rainy ass weather but the weather kind of was ass yeah but if we do get invited to go to orlando for free again , I think I would think about it and , like I said , we would make it into a vacation .

Speaker 2

And then , since we already know a lot , like I said , like it was in disney springs too , like we , every night we were there in disney springs doing something , or like universal . You know , it was a fun experience I missed that . Definitely like top moments um , and the same exact week this week at cinema con as we're recording , this just finished up . And um , I kind of wish I went there .

Speaker 1

It was in vegas that would have been dope and dope . You got to do some events like that , like actual movie events .

Speaker 2

I know there's this festival that I wanted to go to in September . It hasn't been announced when or where . Well , I know it's in Texas , but I don't know where yet . But CinemaCon . For those of you who don't know , it's a big convention where a lot of movie theater studios , movie studios go through and either announce new movies that they're working on or they give deeper looks into Superman . James Gunn came out there and spoke . These other big movies give a deeper dive . I just want to share with you some of my biggest anticipated lists that came through Spider-Man 4 , Tom Holland . They announced the release date , which is going to be 2026 . I want to say may excuse me , I didn't write it down , but may 2026 that sounds about right .

Speaker 1

They always come out in may may is avengers doomsday .

Speaker 2

I believe it's in july . Towards the end of july it's coming out . I'm excited for spider-man 4 . There's a lot of theories out there right now it's going on . Um he's also . He hasn't been officially confirmed to be in Avengers Doomsday but it's anticipated it is going to come out soon .

Speaker 1

That's actually really exciting for Marvel One more .

Speaker 2

Spider-Man news . Spider-man Beyond the Spider-Verse finally has a 2027 release date , and it is very far away from now , which is only two years . The last one came out in 2023 , and people are bitching about that , but they said the reason it's pushed back one one , of course , the strike that happened . Oh , yeah 2024 , but two like they want to elevate the animation which is insane .

Speaker 1

I was just gonna say how can you elevate something that's already so ? They released a couple still images of it and it looks tight , it looks very cool , very cut there's like a lot going on in the images too , like there's like the character and in the background there's a bunch of stuff .

Speaker 2

It's going to be insane , but it's also putting a lot of pressure on the movie itself to do very well .

Speaker 1

I think it'll do good those movies . I've only seen the first one , but you haven't seen the second one , no . What the hell , Dude ? You know I'm not a movie guy , man .

Speaker 2

That second one , I mean . It's anticipated to be the one of the greatest trilogies of all time really the second one's fantastic . The first second one , animation was even better than the first one , I felt like maybe I'll download it and watch it in my car yeah , this guy is watching movies .

Speaker 2

He he hacked his car and I was watching movies in his dashboard as he's driving , told him it was a bad idea , so if anything happens in the future , it's on record that I told him not to do this . I hate you . I know you're not a John Wick fan , but John Wick animated prequels coming with Keanu Reeves involved . There has been talks like this like same thing with Creed Michael B Jordan like an anime spinoff coming of it Interesting concept . Jordan like an anime spinoff coming of it interesting concept . I I mean keanu like I'm sorry , john wick seems like a better way to introduce anime into this . Uh , it's cool . It's cool like when the first john wick comes , he's already listed a badass like the best of the best .

Speaker 2

So to see a prequel with that , it's incredible . I know you haven't seen the john wick movies . The fourth one has led to you believe that he's dead . Like he just dies , Like he falls over and dies .

Speaker 1

We're on three right now . Right , we're on the last one that came out was four . So four he dies , Supposedly . There's also a spin-off , Supposedly .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it looks like he dies , like he gets shot , a like falls over and then it ends yeah , that's crazy .

Speaker 2

I should watch it , and there's a spin-off , the ballerina with anna de armas coming out this year and it shows he's already in the trailer , so obviously he didn't die . And even to confirm he didn't die , we're also getting a john wick five coming out . I mean , it's not shocking that they're gonna make this movie just because it's making them a lot of money , and why would you stop that ? That's true . But I mean , if they're going to make this movie just because it's making them a lot of money , and why would you stop that ?

Speaker 1

That's true , but I mean , if they're good , I guess keep going , because I think Fast and Furious was good up until like 7 .

Speaker 2

No , 5 was good , 5 was a stretch and , speaking of that , like we should be getting updates on that next movie anytime soon . You've seen the last one , right ?

Speaker 1

I've seen all of them . Part 2 ? Yeah . That's the one that's coming out right . What is it Fast ?

Speaker 2

I don't know 10 or 11 . I gave up on those movies , but it's .

Speaker 1

Part 2 , though right , Because the first one was Part 1 .

Speaker 2

Was it ? I don't remember that you're a big hunger games fan , but sunrise of the reaping sunrise on the reaping is the next hunger games movie coming in 2026 what number is that on ?

Speaker 1

four or five yeah because I've seen the first one pretty good the first one that came out like we were in middle school .

Speaker 2

I remember watching that in middle school class .

Speaker 1

You can click all because of the book , right , yeah ?

Speaker 2

yeah , the beatles cast announced all four movies are coming in april 2026 . Four different movies coming out april 2026 , that's a lot . I don't know how that's gonna look , if it's gonna be like an hour and a half long movie or a 45 minute long movie , or why not just make it one big movie . If it's gonna be different perspectives on each of the band member , that would be intense . But to come out four different movies the same month , that's insane . I'm excited for that . I don't know if it's gonna come out the same week or one a week weekly .

Speaker 1

Maybe is this gonna be like the actual movie or

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Speaker 1

the disney plus thing , or is that different ?

Speaker 2

that's just different .

Speaker 1

This is gonna be an actual movie where the cast is I don't know how I feel about that , because you're asking for the people to like , you're asking for them to do a lot and I mean you're , you're gonna want as much success on each movie . You know , yeah , the first one , obviously I feel like it's gonna do the best and I'm just going off of time uh , you know people are tired of the beatles .

Speaker 2

I mean some diehard fans , which they are great , I love the beatles , uh , but four back to back it's kind of much . That's a lot . I mean beetle fans who are diehard are gonna love that month , but to me I was like even like imagine if marvel dropped four movies in april , like they would not do amazing ? I don't think I don't know how big of a video game fan you are , but the zelda live action is movie is planned for March of 2027 . That's going to be good , have you ever played ?

Speaker 1

Zelda ? No , I thought Zelda was a . Zelda is the princess right .

Speaker 2

No , isn't he like the elf with the queen ? I thought his name was Link oh , I don't know , I think I think zelda is .

Speaker 1

Correct me if I'm wrong , but I think zelda is a princess and the dude with the sword his name is link oh well , I don't fucking know .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you have a second guess of myself now , uh , final destination bloodlines is coming . September 2025 , our friend uh seabass yeah , who's a big ? Fan of this movie . He reviewed the first one with me on this podcast . Um , he's excited for this . I'm excited for it's a different concept a little bit . It's changing things up and it's gonna be more gruesome than the previous ones , I feel like more gruesome yeah , extended previews of james gunn's superman movie was shown ahead of a minecraft movie screening .

Speaker 2

I've seen the trailer . Because it's not released online , I'm more excited to see this movie now . A lot of people are kind of tired of DC and stuff like that . This is James Gunn's attempt to bring Superman back to the big screen . And then people get excited . Even the music alone got me excited for the Superman movie . I love Superman . I think he's hated on a lot for no reason .

Speaker 1

I'm not a fan . People prefer .

Speaker 2

Batman . But there's nothing wrong with superman . He's a bad he's .

Speaker 1

He is the ideal hero he just does not give , I think someone wants badass from a superhero and he just doesn't give badass vibes no , he's , he's . Well , then again then again also like tom holland , he's not badass , but I don't know he's .

Speaker 2

I've seen pictures of him in the odyssey .

Speaker 1

He could change soon yeah , but no , I get what you're saying . I'm definitely not a superman guy this might change you .

Speaker 2

I hope well . A big thing that's gonna be changing people's minds crypto we've seen more we've seen we've seen more uh footage of crypto . Have you seen ? Have you seen trailer yet ? Yeah , like of crypto , like playing with him , like as he's down , and stuff like that I've only seen the first trailer okay , I'll show you the second one after this , but it looks fun yeah , it looks fun . That's what it's meant to be a fun superhero movie with . I mean , I heard comparisons to like guardians okay , galaxy , that's a good comparison yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2

Well , obviously , because , like it's jim gunn he did the guardians of galaxy yeah what's next ? Um a new , extended look at jurassic world rebirth unveiling during the universal presentation . Do you know the read not redoing , but the continuing jurassic world I hate that movie . That first two of the trilogy with chris pratt were great . The third one kind of sucked . But this one's gonna be like years later I don't know how far in the future later but they're going back to the island like , why , like ?

Speaker 1

just nuke the fucking planet . Nuke that island there was one that I saw , I forget . I don't know which one . It had to have been three . I wanted to walk out , yeah so bad ?

Speaker 2

uh , five nights at freddy's 2 arrives exclusively , exclusively , in theaters this december . Have you seen the first one ?

Speaker 1

have you played the video game ?

Speaker 2

nope , have you seen footage ?

Speaker 1

I know what it is , though , but with a giant animatronic teddy bears , it's not my cup of tea my girl and me we've been watching this .

Speaker 2

Like she's into streaming , like , uh , watching people stream and her favorite streamer was doing the uh five nights of freddy games . Everyone watched it . It looks fun . It's kind of ridiculous , though . The game concept , uh , this specific game , not the first one , um , and a lot of people hated the first one , the movie the movie version , like it was loosely based on it . It wasn't exactly um it's not animated , right I mean cgi a little .

Speaker 2

I mean it's practical , they are wearing suits . Yeah , how to Train your Dragon live-action remake trailer number two went down in a storm , a sequel already in the works . Have you seen how to Train your Dragon ? I've never seen those .

Speaker 1

I've never seen it either , but I've heard really good things about that movie .

Speaker 2

And the live action trailer looks amazing .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I saw how they did the comparison in the trailers , like the animated one and the live action one . They're nearly identical .

Speaker 2

So I mean with these live action movies , a lot of times they try to change the way they look , to make it more realistic in our world , and we learned from Sonic Like no .

Speaker 1

Dragons are not real . I mean no , no , no , no , just kidding , like the scaling and everything , yeah yeah , yeah , shut up , don't do that to me , don't do that to me .

Speaker 2

But we learned from Sonic Dude just make it look like how it is in the cartoon . We love that version . Yeah , exactly , and that's exactly what they did with this one .

Speaker 1

And there's talks of other live action Like they switched Stitch . Remember the first Stitch was really ugly .

Speaker 2

That was a rumor , that wasn't even real . Oh , I thought it was real .

Speaker 1

They were like let's change it , just how we did with Sonic .

Speaker 2

No , that was a rumor that wasn't real . In this upcoming movie . But I mean Snow White I just reviewed and those dwarves look weird as fuck . I still haven't seen it . No , not a lot of people have . It's one of the biggest flops of the year so far .

Speaker 1

Poor girl .

Speaker 2

Nah , no , I was very sympathetic in my review for her and I kind of regret doing that because she kind of deserved it Really yeah .

Speaker 1

First footage from wicked part two shown to attendees have you seen the first one ? I still gotta watch the first one . I've heard a lot of uh good things about it it's good .

Speaker 2

It's good um . If you're a musical theater fan , you would love it yeah , I thought it was okay , I never wanted to go see it again . I think to me personally it's overhyped a little bit . I heard people like left crying that's kind of ridiculous yeah but um , it did get me excited for part two coming out though because , like .

Speaker 1

It's obviously not a finished story I'll put it on my car too , which I think it's the show .

Speaker 2

I think it's streaming on peak right now . If anyone wants to watch it , okay . Uh , the next james bond film is set to be a fresh , exotic new chapter which means it's probably not going to be a white guy who throws in the word exotic in anything . That's true . That's true , glenn Powell . And Edgar Wright presents the first look at the Running man remake . Never even heard of the Running .

Speaker 1

Man . No , what is that ?

Speaker 2

I don't know . Remake never even heard of the running man . No , what is that ? I don't know . I'm probably gonna hate , because my dad hates anything when I say like I never heard of this movie you know his childhood movies scream 7 , sonic 4 and the legend of ang the last airbender coming in 2026 . Have you seen the animated version of um ?

Speaker 1

yeah , last airbender ? Uh no , I never . I was never a fan of that show , but I know a lot of people really liked it . I I'm a Scream fan though .

Speaker 2

Scream fan . Yeah , I like Scream . Uh , that's what Jen Arteaga , I believe she's coming back .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I liked , like the first Screams a lot . Did you see Sonic 4 ?

Speaker 2

I have never seen any . I've never seen any Sonics , but it's on my bucket list I they're good . If we were kids I could see us liking them a lot more .

Speaker 2

They were entertaining . James Magnol I'm sorry for forgetting his name . He plays Cyclops in the X-Men . He was in those movies . I like him a lot . He's a great actor . Sue Storm is pregnant . In the Fantastic Four first steps they showed an extended trailer for the new fantastic four movie . I remember I told you the other day it's four , four yeah , yeah , did they do it ? No , no I think the images of some things , but the trailer has yet to come online you got better ideas than the whole company .

Speaker 1

That would have been cool and that wasn't my .

Speaker 2

I like to take that credit , but it wasn't me . It was like a big fan theory that yeah that would have been cool though . I think they didn't do that just because it was happening during CinemaCon .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2

That makes sense . The first Avatar Fire and Ash footage shown from the live action Avatar with the blue Avatar wounds . The third one footage has been shown to already and that's supposed to come out , I believe , this year .

Speaker 1

that's pretty quick because I feel like those movies take a long time so it's come out last year oh really .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the whole strike thing pushed it back . Uh , predator badlands will have a predator as one of the heroes .

Speaker 1

Don't like that no no a lot of people really like those movies .

Speaker 2

No , I like the movies . I don't like the Predator being a hero . Oh yeah , that's kind of weird , yeah . And the last thing I got is first footage of Tron Eras shows light cycles in the real world .

Speaker 1

I've never seen the first one either but , last time I went to Disney , I was not able to go on the ride . Do you like that movie ?

Speaker 2

I've never seen that movie either .

Speaker 1

No .

Speaker 2

I remember watching the trailer when it came out . I think disney is trying to make it a bigger deal than what it is , because I didn't care .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I think the reason why they're trying to push it is obviously . I think the ride has a lot to do with it . I think it's probably one of the biggest rides at disney right now and so far , disney has made a lot of changes this year .

Speaker 2

I'm excited , I'm excited . I think villains world is something that's coming I think it's gonna .

Speaker 1

I think all that will be like if you visit disney within the next two years it'll be a completely different disney most , which is probably why I'm not going this year um , I think they're replacing cars land no , they're , they're replacing , they're making .

Speaker 1

I think they're making cars land , or I don't know . Actually I could be wrong I don't know um . Also , universal is making big changes this year too yeah , which is cool because there's a lot of people who go on vacations a lot , so it gives you a different experience yeah , I'm trying to keep it fresh and stuff like that .

Speaker 2

I mean guaranteed like 10 years . It's gonna be like a different update you know , yeah , and the prices are gonna go up um , the april is coming .

Speaker 2

We're in april now . A lot of good movies coming out the amateur , um sinners , michael b jordan movies coming out , accountant 2 a lot of good movies come out in april , but then we're gonna get a may where , like a lot of the good movies are coming the thunderbolts and , um , all these other great movies . Is there any movie that you've seen that you would want to go see this year ?

Speaker 1

um , I'm really excited for lilo and stitch , just because I'm the first one on this podcast , yeah it's because , I mean , I grew up . I grew up with the disney films and I remember watching that movie when I was little dude , I re-watched the original , like it's good .

Speaker 2

A month ago , I cry it's a good movie .

Speaker 1

It's a good movie so I'm excited to see . So I'm excited for that . Um , I think that's about it as of right now because , like , I don't go to the movies a lot , but whenever I do get a chance I want to make sure it's like a good movie that I really like yeah and um , you know this is the first year like we're starting to get a group of things , because last year was the ticket and big hits from the uh strikes and stuff like that .

Speaker 2

Zendaya is gonna be in the new movie . I don't think it's coming out this year if it is gonna be like later this late this year yeah I'm excited to see her on the big screen . The odyssey is gonna be a pretty big one . I don't know if that was screened this year , I see that's the new christopher nolan movie with a ton of actors like robert penson , matt damon is it about like like the odyssey , like the greek mythology ?

Speaker 2

yes , oh , that's gonna be dope yeah , and there's been um leaked photos of matt damon and that's like that's dope . Yeah

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Speaker 2

, I would watch that yeah , yeah , I'm gonna show you some pictures from that , because yeah tom holland's there's and days in there , robert panton . They said yeah a lot .

Speaker 1

A ton of big celebrity names in there that's pretty cool because you need a big cast for that movie . Well , it's a christopher nolan movie of course it's gonna be big cast , like I could do literally anything in hollywood now he owns us he owns us .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , yeah . He's gonna do big things um other than that . Congrats on your nominee . You said you didn't win thank you .

Speaker 1

Thank you , though I mean either way .

Speaker 2

Like I said , it was a , it was a good experience um for the best interview podcast , and I could have been out there too . I feel like I . You're a good interviewer . I feel like I'm .

Speaker 1

We have different styles yeah , we definitely have different styles of interviewing . You are really good . I always tell you this that , like once the camera turns on , you're a completely different person you're like . I feel like , at the end of the day , like we're both . We're both characters .

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying yeah , I agree with that with your podcast . It's an interview based podcast yeah I turn yours on .

Speaker 1

I could tell it's an interview yeah I try to make mine more natural , like a conversation yeah , yeah , yeah , where ?

Speaker 2

I feel like my strength is like I can reel it back into asking questions on topic , yeah , and everything is always trial and error . I mean , I've always tried to , like you know you've been on hiatus , though for , like you said , a month or so .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's been like a month where I just I just I don't feel like creating anything , which is kind of weird because I've always been super creative . You know , I don't really care to like dance , to make a podcast , to do like any post . I force myself a lot though , um , like this sunday , oh that's we'll plug it I can't really plug it because it's gonna be in the past yeah , but on sunday we're doing the whole coffee party and I'm excited to be there .

Speaker 1

But like I don't know , I kind of be like I don't want , like people like I turn like into an introvert sometimes you know what I'm saying I get like overstimulated , if that makes any sense yeah , um , let's talk about that coffee because , like this , is gonna be the first of many , if it's a success , which so ? If we're talking in the future . It's already been a success . Remember , this episode's gonna come out on monday , right , yeah , so the coffee party already happened .

Speaker 2

Success a bunch of people were there so let's explain what the idea of the coffee party yeah .

Speaker 1

So for those of you guys who don't know , um , lately what's been trending a lot on social media is um , people are tired of going to the clubs late at night , getting drunk and all that stuff .

Speaker 2

So in big cities like miami , new york , chicago , I think that might be us , because we're turning 30 soon .

Speaker 1

But in big cities what they do is that during the day they have a DJ at a coffee shop and the DJ is just going in and there's a bunch of people who show up . It's basically a daytime club with no alcohol and you're just vibing with coffee and your friends , you're having a good time . You go dance for a couple hours , you leave , you coffee and your friends , you're having a good time .

Speaker 2

You go dance for a couple hours . You leave .

Speaker 1

You still got time to go grocery shopping do whatever you want to do , you know what I'm saying , so it's gonna be it's . It was that cielito lindo cafe in whiting , indiana , uh , from 11 to 2 , and I'm super excited like it's gonna be the first of many , because you got some lineup already . Yeah it's also gonna be the first in northwest indiana , so I'm glad to be a part of that history .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and with you and your friend DJ Speaks .

Speaker 1

DJ Speaks and the CEO Seabass . Don't forget that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , he'll see if he shows up . It shows his face .

Speaker 1

Yeah , maybe he'll be in Japan , arizona , this guy is .

Speaker 2

Mr . Worldwide , right now .

Speaker 1

Yeah , dude , he's everywhere . This dude is insane .

Speaker 2

He's up these brilliant ideas .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , um on top of that you're .

Speaker 2

You're still doing your kids in the other business . Um , yes , it's going crazy this year .

Speaker 1

You definitely are slowing down , not because you want to , not because you can't , but like we see each other every single day and I think you've . I mean , if there's anybody who sees me more , it's you . You know we see each other more than our own families and I mean , if I noticed it , I'm sure , sure you could notice that I've definitely gone down .

Speaker 2

This guy told me he wants to quit and become a construction worker . I was like we're not doing that . You're not doing that , it's tough man , it's tough . I hope your podcast comes back . Like I said , you all have your first hidden episode ever now , with me and Glenn on the podcast . Or not hidden , hidden lost episode we recorded a full thing .

Speaker 1

It was a great funny episode which I think is crazy , because we we lost an episode on your podcast too yeah , we're just not meant to be .

Speaker 2

I think the world's not ready for it . That's probably why we did it like we get canceled . We opened up the episode with us reading the script of super vet as the characters and we didn't even acknowledge it .

Speaker 1

No , no , no , no , no . We did that for about 10 minutes , yeah , and then , out of nowhere , we just started the podcast , but yeah . So I don't know when my podcast will be back , but it's not my priority right now .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you got to go for that win next year .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we'll see , we'll see .

Speaker 2

We'll try . Hopefully you too , man . Yeah , it'll be tight . I want to post pictures of the nominee , because we got pictures of it up there too . That whole experience pod movement , podcast movement . It's kind of a bust . We did try to make the best of it as much as we can . I'm so excited to do this podcast . I still have fun doing it every time . I'm trying not to go anywhere anytime soon . A lot of great movies announcements have been coming out and I'm excited to get into the superhero era again .

Speaker 1

I'm sort of excited to get excited for superheroes again because I haven't been for a long time no , I haven't watched movies like that since , probably like 2019 I think that was when marvel was at its peak like 2017 , 18 , 19 , yeah , and then I think it slowed down a little bit , or maybe I just slowed down down , but I'm excited for this upcoming year .

Speaker 2

I just finished watching the show Invincible .

Speaker 1

You were telling me about it Great fucking show .

Speaker 2

I'm going to C2E2 , a Comic Con convention coming up in Chicago soon , and I'm excited just to see more Invincible stuff there .

Speaker 1

You're going to buy a lot of stuff there .

Speaker 2

If I can afford it , yeah . Stuff there can be really expensive yeah yeah , well , thanks , fernando for coming back on the podcast . Got you , bro . Um , next week , if things go well people have been canceling me lately we might have a new guest coming on the brand new for the first time okay , okay uh to review the new amateur movie . I'm excited to get into that one . Um , I gotta watch the original because it's a remake from the 80s oh really , yeah nice thank you for listening .

Speaker 2

Subscribe to both of our Instagram pages . I'll tag him in the post in this and stay tuned . Next week I'll be saving his feet , you .