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Sinners with Brandon Cole
Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan's fifth collaboration "Sinners" combines Southern blues, vampire horror, and family drama into a genre-bending masterpiece set in 1930s America. The film follows twin brothers who return to their plantation hometown to open a juke joint, only to encounter an ancient evil that threatens their community.
• Michael B. Jordan delivers a remarkable dual performance as twins Smoke and Stack
• Ryan Coogler wrote and directed his first original screenplay not based on existing IP
• The film intentionally builds character for 80 minutes before introducing vampire elements
• The standout one-take musical sequence transitions through Black musical history
• Traditional vampire mythology is effectively incorporated while maintaining historical context
• The IMAX presentation enhances several key sequences with aspect ratio changes
• Strong supporting performances from Hailee Steinfeld and newcomer Miles Caton as Preacher Boy
• Mid-credits scene provides emotional closure while maintaining the film's stakes
• Themes of family obligation, redemption, and cultural preservation run throughout
See "Sinners" in IMAX for the full experience of Coogler's most ambitious and visually stunning film to date.
excuse me, is anybody sitting here? Sorry, this is taken. Sorry, uh. First I want to start the podcast by saying happy belated birthday, brandon. Uh, you just turned 29, right 29.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been a blast I'm excited for you, and my birthday is in about a week too. I'm not that excited for it. I don't know how you felt about it, but we're once up close to 30, and I'm not ready for that I'm really not ready for it. I'm finding gray hairs already in my hair.
Speaker 2:That's why I shaved my head. Man, you don't got to worry about it.
Speaker 1:How'd you celebrate your birthday?
Speaker 2:Went on um. How'd you celebrate your birthday? Went on a cruise, like my entire family came out um, I think you. Obviously you know my twin sister, so it was the first birthday we were able to spend together like the last 10 years because, like you know, life is just so crazy now but, uh, being able to ring that in with everybody. My roommate, danny, you've met, obviously you know danny, but being able to do.
Speaker 1:That was a uh, absolute blast that's amazing, like it was a week-long cruise, you said yeah, it was about, uh, six days all together, uh, which is the perfect amount.
Speaker 2:It was the first time I've been on a cruise since I was like eight, so a completely different experience. It is now my new favorite thing nah, you can keep that.
Speaker 1:I have zero desires to go on any cruises. I'm too paranoid for that stuff no, that's exactly how I was.
Speaker 2:You got to lock in man. It's so worth it, and everything that I was stressed about immediately disappeared, especially if you get the drink back in, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:Did you stop anywhere, cool? Or was it just in the boat the entire time?
Speaker 2:No, we went to Cozumel and Costa Maya, which were absolutely beautiful. I got like a massage on the beach. You know, listening to the waves got, you know, the real life music going behind me. Couldn't, couldn't have asked for anything better.
Speaker 1:That's. That's incredible. That's incredible. You know what I'm doing for my 29th birthday I'm going to BC Osaka.
Speaker 2:Chinese buffet. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, no, I'm actually that weekend I'm going to Milwaukee to go hang out with my brother and do some stuff out there. But I'm excited for that 29, man 29. That's insane. That's insane. I think we've known each other, since we were about nine, probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, going back to you.
Speaker 1:You know the elementary school days, I think, like in school, like especially middle school. I was more closer with your sister, but like your whole family's pretty cool, like I met them before we went to chili's after. I remember, uh, chili's after one. Um, our middle school dances or something like that that was pretty funny that's so funny.
Speaker 2:We were, uh, talking about chili's pretty much the entire time while we were on the boat.
Speaker 1:That is a hell of a throwback.
Speaker 2:And listen. It still stands.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if Chili's wants to be a sponsor on this podcast, all you got to do is pay me the triple dippers. I'll be dope with that.
Speaker 2:Give me a chocolate molten cake. I'm yours forever.
Speaker 1:I was just there yesterday actually.
Speaker 2:Today's WrestleMania, but I may have to pregame it at Chili's. That may be an idea.
Speaker 1:Fuck, yeah, we're going to be talking about Sinner. This episode is Michael B Jordan and Ryan Coogler all the way around. We're going to be talking about Sinners and their first movie together, fruitvale Station. I'm excited to talk about both of them because not just so much reviewing the actual movies, but just the comparison between their skills, uh, that have like grown since then. Um, before you that, like I just mentioned before, we started recording. Um, right before I hit up chili's, I went to and see the new minecraft movie. I know I wasn't planning on to, but my girl wanted to go see it because she's a big gamer and you know she's, she's starting getting her minecraft too. Um, and just as what you thought about it before seeing it is exactly how you're gonna feel going out of it like it sucked it. It wasn't bad, it was pretty bad. Um, jack black. Jack black is, I don't know. Do you think jack black is more leaning towards kids content or was he always for kids content?
Speaker 2:because I remember I was gonna say he's always been that way. He's done like the things like um, um, tropical thunder, yeah, oh, he's had like some, some like more crazy roles like that. But no, ever since school of rock, nacho libre, like we grew up with them. He's just still in that time yeah, yeah, which you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going viral right now with the minecraft movie theaters. Like kids are going crazy, and not just kids, like stupid teenagers are going crazy during this movie, throwing popcorn, making messes and stuff like that no, that's, I hate that stuff.
Speaker 2:That's disrespectful to my, my cinema. No, uh, when you went, like was it still packed and like did you have that experience of people going crazy?
Speaker 1:so we did plan to go see this movie, but she wanted to wait till it died down a little bit. Um, I think it's been off like a week or two now and um, yeah, when I bought the tickets, there's only like six people in there. I was like, cool, we can handle that because it's a big theater still. And we went there and it was a good handful of families 99 of it was kids. I was like, uh, great, um, but one of them you know how the big thing was like a chicken jockey or something like that, and that's when people were crazy. There was only one kid in the whole theater that screamed the title chicken jockey. And then everyone's just like, oh, like that wasn't even worth it because it was kind of awkward. Um, so I just want to talk about things like that are only like really cool.
Speaker 2:It's that unison, like when it's it's all energy based.
Speaker 1:So if you're the only one screaming it just now, you're the weird person yeah, that's like clapping it when the airplane lands, like if you're doing it by yourself, so that, um, yeah, that movie, like, so I think there's, I think there's talks of sequels already, if I'm not mistaken. Um, I don't know how. I think there's, I think there's talks of sequels already, if I'm not mistaken. Um, I don't know how. I think it did pretty well in the box office, actually, compared numbers, compared to super mario, if I'm not mistaken, for the studio, which is insane to me. I don't know how it did it, but yeah, the super mario brother.
Speaker 2:You know that went on to make a billion dollars off of the peaches, peaches, peaches. So I don't know, even like right now. I know it's getting some, some fanfare, but I I don't know this song.
Speaker 1:I mean, this movie had like a couple original songs in it, but they were like 45 seconds to a minute long okay and it was like random.
Speaker 1:I was like why the is this in here? It was stupid. I mean there was a couple cool easter eggs like kung fu pan and stuff like that, but yeah. But now I want to go these. Both movies are Ryan Coogler's only rated R films, if I'm not mistaken. I want to talk about Sinners first and then we'll go to Fruitvale Station Going into this.
Speaker 1:You're not a big horror fan movie, but I asked you to come on this because I wanted a movie buff to talk to us about, because it's it had so much hype build around it and I didn't want to have just somebody who's like, yeah, it was all right or it was pretty cool, like no, I need to dive deep into this movie. The marketing has been crazy for this. Like they've been going on tours like the. The reviews, like it's a perfect score. On the rotten tomatoes it's certified fresh, if I'm not mistaken. Yep, um, hayley steinfeld. The trailers like the trailers look interesting at first. Like I wasn't as excited when the first or two trailers came out, but once, like I didn't even know it was a vampire movie. Honestly, I didn't know what it was for the first two trailers until I started hearing people talk about it as a vampire movie, like oh, I was like I don't know how I'm gonna to feel about it then, because I'm not really into monster movies like that.
Speaker 1:Haley Steinfeld the type of dude in press, but I barely remember seeing her in any of the trailers, if I'm not mistaken. So I was like, why is she such a big deal? And even if she was listed to be a bigger role, if I'm not mistaken, in this movie, take her to be a bigger role, if I'm not mistaken in this movie. Like, take her part of this movie. And I'm not really understanding what she's, what the hype is built around her. But she was good in this movie, but the biggest, I mean draw like you just throw the name ryan coogler out there. He's a house built name now like where he he himself is just a draw, and top of that michael b jordan and on top of them, collabing together it's it's already making a million dollars. It's easy, probably 500 million if I'm not mistaken are they like the Scorsese Leo duo?
Speaker 2:not necessarily of that, but, like you know, they're getting there where their collaborations are just money yeah, yeah, that's 100% true.
Speaker 1:That's like Christopher Nolan and excuse me from the name is like oh, the guy played um oppenheimer oh, they're always together too, yeah oh wait, what is his name?
Speaker 1:keelan similarly k oh uh, kelly murphy yeah, it's like christopher, nolan, keelan murphy, like how their duo is together too, like I don't think they're planning on stopping anytime soon, which is, you know, great for them. Um, and I want to talk about fruitvale station, but we're going to do that the second half of this episode, to talk about some of the comparisons. Um, and a lot of stuff has happened. They've done five. This is their fifth film together and even since then, obviously, rick majoran successful franchises of creed and you know, like he he's even had his own director debut since then, and you can just tell they even had his own director debut since then. And you can just tell they gain skills left and right throughout their whole career. And I've been reading up on this movie. Like ryan coogler like took so many different inspirations for not only for movies from his personal life too. He wrote this movie too, which is the most impressive part to me um, going from fruitvale to this one, writing big box office stuff. It's, it's incredible.
Speaker 2:And I haven't even got to the actual plot about this movie or the sets or anything like that no, and just to that point too, like I saw something today, I don't even know, I didn't realize this. This is the first movie that he's done that isn't based on a real story or like a big ip, because obviously you know fruitvale, fruitvale Station, real life, and then Creed, and then both Black Panther movies, you know, are huge, already boxed off, as you know, guaranteed to a point, to a degree. This is the one that he sat down, wrote, put his entire soul into and you see it on screen immediately.
Speaker 1:Which also brings hope to a lot of cinema buffs who are like oh, there's nothing original anymore and stuff like that like this is like his answer. Response to that like shut the fuck up and eat this. Let me tell you right now.
Speaker 2:If you're sitting at home and you're like, oh, I'm not gonna go to the movies anymore, there's nothing original, everything's a sequel or prequel, and you don't go see this movie, you're done, you're not allowed to talk about, I don't want to, ever want to hear that from your uh, from your, your mouths again. That's you. You gotta support movies like this if you want more movies to go, especially when you look at you know who this movie was made for just people who love cinema, or just people who love the movies or want to have a good time. It is pure entertainment.
Speaker 1:So go to the movies we're also recording this on a saturday too, and this episode, this episode is going to come out on a monday too and too, and so we have yet to see the official numbers yet, because we've only been two days out. Technically, I want to go see an early preview night on a Thursday night at IMAX. Did you go see an IMAX? Yeah, of course. Yeah, okay, that's how you have to see it at a 6 615 showing, and I was.
Speaker 1:I was hesitant to go see an IMAX too because, like because I usually go to the theater in holbert, that's a little bit closer to from my job, but I was, like you know what? I haven't seen an imax movie since captain america. That's the only movie I've seen in the imax this whole year. It's like, let me go give it a shot. I was glad I did that, not only because, like it looked better on the screen, but like it was a packed theater and seeing it with so many people who were excited to see this movie, there was cheers in the audience yeah, and not only that.
Speaker 1:There was an applause after the movie was over and there's a mid-credit scene. There was applause after the mid-credit scene.
Speaker 2:It was incredible you talked about earlier. You know watching the trailers for this movie really being sold on it. I don't know if you saw, but like during the press tour they had ryan coogler like explain how he made this movie. Yeah, this 10 minute clip about him going through like the difference of imax and the 75 millimeter film and like that was the. I didn't even watch the second trailer. I watched that and I was like this guy's a nerd, he's like an oakland nerd and he really cared. I'm going I knew I going to go watch it in the best screen possible.
Speaker 1:And on top of that I also read too that Christopher Nolan and his wife came on set a few times to help him shoot in the IMAX cameras, to give him tips and stuff like that, which is incredible. I don't think they're credited at all, but it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:No, they're just helping him out. Yeah, they just probably recognize he's a fellow nerd, yeah, and recognize his fellow nerd, yeah, and what a flex and that thing. He was like yeah, I was talking to chris the other day like, oh, christopher dolan, one of the top you know five, ten directors of all time, that's cool. You just got him in your back pocket like that seeing him talk.
Speaker 1:I mean I think he just has a natural stutter, if I'm not mistaken. But I, I, uh, I just think he might be just too excited talking about movie stuff, that's why he gets lost for words I also see your mustache resembles his a little bit too.
Speaker 2:Listen, it wasn't on purpose, but I'm glad it happened um, how was your theater?
Speaker 2:experience was a lot packed and stuff like that yeah, so you know, typically I'm also a thursday night, uh, moviegoer, but I was coming for my cruise, so didn't get a chance to do that. One waited till friday. And when I tell you my you, my theater was packed. It's always I don't know if you have this feeling, but like when you roll up to the theater and like it's actually busy, that just puts a smile on my face. I was just like all right, this is what I like to say. Obviously, I think Minecraft had a lot to do with it as well, but when I walked in, my theater was completely packed. There was only a few open seats and my experience, like the crowd, was going crazy. They say like listen, my people, black people, we like talking during movies.
Speaker 2:You know it's the thing that drives me up a wall. But in these moments it's funny because, like the reactions that people were getting and it was like a full, you know, full, uh uh, full theater experience.
Speaker 1:I love it. My people are known um, you know, my theater was mostly filled with them too, and, um, yeah, I'm the same exact way. I'm annoying when people talk to them. But, like you said, it added to the experience because, like this, not only was it scary in this movie, but it's a lot funnier too yeah than I was expecting and like to see them laugh at, like certain jokes that I probably wouldn't have gotten. It was hilarious it.
Speaker 1:It made the movie so much more better, and like to see that they were the ones clapping at the end of it. I was like, okay, ryan did something amazing here yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2:You know, part of this movie, of course, is obviously like I said earlier, it's for everybody, it's the. But this is such like a culture filled movie, so even like going with dandy, like some of the things he he didn't get, but he was just in awe of everything happening and I I think that just made it significantly better for me as well yeah, um, I totally skipped over things before we started going on this review.
Speaker 1:Um, there were like two things I wanted I told you right before we started recording. That I want to talk about was the fantastic four trailer that just dropped. Uh, new looks new. We finally see all of their powers being used.
Speaker 2:Looks incredible um, yeah, we were all waiting on, um, you know, reed richards. We're waiting to see, like his stretchiness, because they, for whatever reason, have not been showing that. They showed everybody else so far. But I think it looks good, I'm excited for it and we're in april right now.
Speaker 1:The movie doesn't come out till july, which means I'm expecting at least one more trailer, um, before it actually drops, and I hope it doesn't do that. I do not want any more trailers, I do not want any more images, anything like that. Like stop right here, uh, because you're gonna sell too much. That's exactly what happened. Like the last several movies, like the um the captain america movie. Like I showed the entire red red hawk scene um deadpool and wolverine. It showed every single set and scene in that movie in the trailers. And this one, like just stop, just stop right here. Like I'm perfect, like you already sold me, I'm gonna go see you, I'm going to go dude that and that's like my thing, especially with marvel movies.
Speaker 2:Like you know, going back into a few years ago with the greatest movie of all time avengers endgame you know they didn't spoil like anything for that movie. All the trailers were like clips from old movies and there was like maybe eight seconds of like this is what's happening, this is like so they can do it. They've shown before that they can. You know, let us go into it without giving us the entire plot and yeah, I mean for endgame, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1:I believe they said like all of the trailers are from the first 15 minutes of the movie. Perfect, genius, keep it doing some simple stuff like that, like we're. Well, people are going to go see. If you don't show any trailers at all, just because it ends on such a cliffhanger and infinity war exactly but, um, yeah, I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1:We've seen a lot more powers, like just the imagery alone. It looks so crystal clear and looks phenomenal and the thing looks like it's really there, like the cgi thing is up to its game a lot. And I was kind of skeptical too, because john watts, if I'm mistaken, was going to be the original director for this movie and I like him a lot and I was kind of disappointed when he backed out of it. Um, because I was like man, no one's gonna do it justice. But they're from the trailers alone, it looks like it's gonna be a solid movie. I'm excited for that. Um, my girl is not set on it. She's, uh, she's not impressed with the casting other than, uh, peter pascal.
Speaker 2:He's the one um well, johnny, the guy that uh plays him, I'm not for whatever reason. Everything that, like I've seen him in, like for the trailers, has done nothing for me. Yeah, but everybody else I'm very into yeah yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:But because, like most, is his hair mostly like it's yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, obviously it's not his real hair, the dude who played like Darth Maul or like Fred in Scooby Doo yeah his face is.
Speaker 1:Freddie Prinze Jr.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is, but you're not going to put Vanessa Kirby in a movie and have me upset. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:Johnny Storm looks like he dyed his hair and he's coming out of his eminem phase getting his hair real hair's growing through, um, but she's not set on it.
Speaker 1:I was like girl, like come on, it's gonna be amazing. That's like you're gonna watch it with me. The 30 times we're gonna go see this in theaters, oh, you might as well get used to it. Um. Then also I want to talk about superman day, which is the other day, and they released some new images. We got like more image, clear images of a villain. Uh no, I don't know if it's a villain, but obviously lex luther's villain. But we'll see, like metro man, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1:I'm so bad with names, I'm sorry, um, yeah metamorphosis, metamorphosis yeah, that's what it is who could change into, like gas, liquid solids, any kind of solids, even kryptonite too, if you wanted to. And um, we see more images of that, which people are excited. There's also a mystery character I don't know if you caught that, like in one of the frames with, uh, lex luther. It's like a white martian. People are guessing, but they're not 100 sure what it could be. Okay, um, so it's interesting. That's the one. I want to you this which one are you more likely to go see more times in theaters? Superman?
Speaker 2:or Fantastic Four? That's such a great question, I think because of how important the Superman movie is, and I literally have it as my background on my phone right now and I'm not even a Superman guy I'm not even a Superman guy but it's just like the look up, the hope. I think James Gunn has never made anything that I'm not gonna watch multiple times, so in my head it has to be superman you're gonna go see superman more than fantastic four.
Speaker 1:that's insane, I feel it. I feel it, man. So not only is it like um fantastic four, I think it's gonna look better and like just be a better story. Um, there's also not gonna be too many, if any, references to the mcu at all, because it's a different universe and I think we need that fresh of breath of fresh air, something just to stand alone on itself. We're not relying on cameos, we're not relying on there's probably going to be end credit scenes, but we're not relying on seeing Captain America or Nick Fury come to the door at any second.
Speaker 1:We can just enjoy this for what it is and look at those story, this world that they built in. And yeah, I mean they are going to be in the new Avengers movies. They are confirmed, but for now, let's just enjoy this. Like, let's get to the moment. As a person, it's almost like the first phase of MCU, like we didn't see any of the characters in the cats in america movie.
Speaker 2:You, know that's exactly, that's exactly the way to go into it. You just gotta like. This is the setup. I do agree, you know, with the next movie after this, like we're already at doomsday or secret wars. You know, like it, I don't. I don't love the build-up so far, but I think if you go into this one, um, knowing that obviously the all roads lead to the avengers movie, and enjoy this for being a fantastic for the first, the first family of the of Marvel, you'll be a much happier experience.
Speaker 1:And I thought well, it's kind of surprising. They're going to be introducing Franklin Richard to the MCU as quick as they are Dude did you?
Speaker 2:that's what I'm going to talk to you about. I had no idea that they were going to go the route with the kids already.
Speaker 1:That's crazy to me, Maybe because, like I mean, there's so many stories and adventures like we could include too. But like we've already seen the story twice, their origin story is twice. Now I'm glad they're not going with the origin story. There might be a couple flashbacks, like in clips.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think that's why they're fast-paced. Both movies are doing that right. Superman, they have said already, he's already, he's already living in this world. You may get like a flashback or two, but go into this movie knowing that at least the bare bones, basics of superman yeah, um, this is also going a little bit off topic too, like the batman 2 sequel with robert pattinson like dude.
Speaker 1:This movie, the script came, the script's not even done and it keeps getting delayed, and delayed, and delayed and matt reeves and said if it gets delayed one more time, I'm leaving this project then it's his fault, is like what the latest report said, because he hasn't written the script yet.
Speaker 2:So you know you can't, you can't have both. But you gotta say, yeah, the you know script for the movie and if the studio rejects it or push back, that's one thing, but it's all hanging on you.
Speaker 1:You're the writer, director, you wanted to be in this position I feel like even like knowing how great of a script you have with the first one like I would have started working on that from day one, you know yeah, especially like the commitment to james gunn says you know we're redoing, like we're rebuilding this entire world.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna cast my own batman. He could have very easily been like I'm happy for the first one we got with reeves, you know now it's time to move on. He was like nah, we're still doing elseworlds. Y'all deserve this second movie. Reeves is the guy, so I don't know if it's like too much pressure for him, but I need him to.
Speaker 1:I need him to lock in as well yeah, yeah, I know james gunn says he's gonna have the final approval and anything comes out.
Speaker 2:You think he's gonna be involved too much in the batman 2 no, um no, that's just never been his style and, like from everything that you hear him talking about so far, like you know, he's gonna put the script first. You know the characters first and he trusts his directors to direct. So I think, as long as it's good, he'll he. He, he's been around long enough to know it works.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, um, and I pushed back further not to talk about sinners. But now we can talk about sinners now. But uh, one last transition. Like the three main characters well, three main characters in this movie have been in the mcu, like, uh, obviously, michael b jordan was killmonger. Uh, hayley steinfeld was hawkeye in the hawkeye series and also, um, tanaj l jackson, who plays beatrice. She was in the loki series as like, um, one of the guards who's also in like b23 or something like that something like that.
Speaker 1:She was also in depo and wolverine too she's. I didn't recognize that her until, like, I just really read it in a couple things review, um. So if anyone listening right now, we are it's. I am gonna like talk spoilers a little bit too. So if you don't want to listen to any spoilers, I think you should go watch this movie first and then come back and listen to our review, because there's a lot of great things I want to talk about in this movie. So this is your spoiler warning. From here on out, we could be dropping a spoiler too, so just listen on your own.
Speaker 1:Um, this movie is about trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that even a greater evil is um waiting for even I can't talk even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back. This movie was written and directed by starring michael b jordan, uh hayley steinfeld, introducing uh miles carden, miles caton first movie ever this is his first one ever, oh yeah, um, also the villainous movies, jack o'connell, who I I don't recognize him from a whole lot of things, but I liked him in this role.
Speaker 1:He was pretty good in this role. Um, this movie is like two hours and 17 minutes, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, two hours 17 minutes. Um, the vampire stuff doesn't even kick in. It's like an hour 20 minutes in.
Speaker 2:I feel like and I think you know that's what works right. You can tell you talked about it earlier, about um coogler's inspiration. The one that made me laugh is he talked about like puss in boots being in this to this. But uh, till dust, like dust till dawn, right like the genre flip, like that. I I was similar to you, like I knew what this movie was about, but like the first like 45 minutes, I just was like, oh, this is a cool story, like I'm pretty locked into it even without the vampire stuff it was great.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, this would just be a really cool like I don't know crime, like you know movie going on and then everything happens and I'm like, ah, yep, that's what we came here for it almost could have been like broken up into two different movies almost like, yeah, like it's about those twins coming back who has, like, have a reputation and, um, you know, they're still dealing with racism at this time because, like, the cool cook fan is a villain of itself.
Speaker 1:Um, I was like, if you were stuck with that, that would have been a good movie too, but I'm I mean, I'm also excited the vampire stuff was there too, because it was interesting and it was incredible. Let's talk about, like, the first half of this movie. I mean, absolutely it opens up with the ending. How did you feel about that?
Speaker 2:and more specifically, like the first 10 seconds, there's a jump scare and it scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did think of you.
Speaker 2:I did think of you when I saw that y'all got me stressed out and I'll say it again I do not watch horror movies.
Speaker 1:This movie was semi-stressed out, but yes, my reasoning for him doing that, like opening up, with the ending, I was like hey, like yeah, this first hour and a half is not gonna be as scary. But like, just keep remember, this is what you're here to see is like you know this, because it's like, uh, the kid like coming up all bloody and stuff like that, coming in the church and stuff like that, it was insane. And then, like the whole movie, I was like you almost forgot about it till we get to the end and the jump scares you're talking about are like flashes of that night. That, however, will happen and it's not. It's kind of told through the perspective of the kid in this movie a little bit for at least majority of the movie, if I'm mistaken, preacher boy.
Speaker 1:Preacher boy whose dream is to leave the plantation just like his cousins did, who plays by michael b jordan, smoky and stack smoking, stack. Who they left to chicago, which is cool. I always get excited when I hear chicago or something about indiana. I was like, oh shit, that's us. You know, um, and they also went to work for um. Who's that gangster? Um, capone, capone. Yeah, that was a cool shout out to the capone, like they went to go work for him a little bit like.
Speaker 1:These guys have a reputation, yep, of being like gangsters, pretty much like they didn't know. Literally no one fuck with them, and everyone knew it. Um, so, anyways, their cousin preacher boy I'm calling preacher boy, preacher boy like gets excited. Like, because they gets excited because they're coming back into town for the first time. They're opening up a what do they call it? A juke joint, and they know their little cousin plays the guitar.
Speaker 1:So like, all right, so we got some entertainment coming on. Also, they're looking out for him too, like, hey, this is your dream, we're going to help you out too. They're good guys at heart, I would say, but they just do whatever the fuck they want. Yeah, so then, um, they pick up preacher boy. Even their dad warns them like. As soon as he warns, like all right, this is where you can tell something's gonna happen, because why would you warn on something randomly? Um, he warns him like, hey, like, if you go out there dancing with the devil, the devil's going to follow you home one of these days. I thought that was a cool-ass line too.
Speaker 2:Facts and you know getting more into why this story kind of hits home for me. My dad's a pastor, so definitely not to this degree. But like the hey, I know you got plans, but I need you to help me with this sermon tomorrow. Like felt seen, I know you got plans but I need you to help me with this sermon tomorrow. Like felt I'm seeing, I was like oh man, like trying to go, I got things to do but being able to quote like the scripture and still be able to do it, like you know, that was some true like southern culture there that I think they absolutely nailed and I was kind of confused about the timing too, like obviously I don't know too much about slavery, but like were they free because?
Speaker 1:like they can't be left as they wanted? Throughout this whole movie I was like yeah, yeah, they were free.
Speaker 2:This is like back when, uh, like after you know everything happened, they still like stayed on plantations for, you know, not a lot of money, like very, very, as you can see, they were pretty poor, but, you know, trying to have those towns themselves as well. Yeah, this is the 1930s.
Speaker 1:I forgot to say that earlier. So anyways, just seeing like the toilet. How did you feel about Michael B Jordan playing two different characters in this movie?
Speaker 2:He deserves all the credit in the world. All the credit in the world. Very random enough, this is the third WB movie with a big budget that had the same actor playing twins. First it was the one with Robert De Niro, then it was Mickey 17, and now we got Michael B Jordan up here. So we may have to rank those performances.
Speaker 1:At first it kind of bothered me the scene where they're buying the juke joint, when they're just handing back the joint back and forth. I was like, alright, you're just doing, they're just handing back this, like the joint back and forth. I was like, all right, you're just doing, you're just trying to make it seem natural, like, okay, look what I could do.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, you know but I think that it was so important because that's what it did for me, like I also was like they're going out of their way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like flex on us right now but I mean, as the movie went along, it did get a lot better too, and the whole time, you know, because obviously, like when there's it's the back of one of their heads, it's somebody else there, like that just looks a little bit similar to them in my mind, like I'm trying to like okay, I'm trying to see if I can tell the difference and stuff like that there are a little bit of times.
Speaker 1:There are times in this movie where, like, I couldn't tell who was who for like a little bit. I don't know if you felt the same way.
Speaker 2:No, well, that's what I was going to say. I think lesser hands would have made their characters so wildly different. Where one was normal, one was just over the top, but Smoke being more of a calming chill, and Stack just being a little bit more unhinged but more fun he was the one who was going out by the end of the movie. They really did become two different characters for me more, you know, unhinged but like, more fun, like he was like the one who was going out like they by the end of the movie.
Speaker 1:they really did become two different characters for me well, yeah, I'm glad they didn't do that like make one more of the straight man, more and more. I'm glad they didn't make them too too different, because that's not how twins really work in real life. You know, like they are going to be similar in a lot of ways and I felt like they did that perfectly in this movie. Um, I would have been more disappointed if it was like two different people, like why are you guys even related, kind of thing, but like no, and they did have that brotherly bond too that you did see on screen, which is great, and I think what helped a lot of it to distinguish their own personalities is they did separate them for a good chunk of the movie, like when they went to go get supplies and stuff, like that one went to go get supplies for the actual juke joint, one went to go recruit some talent for the, and they always man, these guys are two people, always with a plan too.
Speaker 1:It was incredible to see like these guys that were straight businessmen.
Speaker 2:You can see. That's the thing too. They're confident, like it's from the first time you see them on screen, like in every thing that they do, like they have a mission, they're they're very into it, they're very capable. It worked for me.
Speaker 1:It was incredible. And then let's talk about I think it was that's Smokey Stack who went to go pick up the supplies, yep. And then he went to go park this truck and his big concern was he doesn't want no one to fuck with him, so he hires this little girl to do standby of the truck. Like hey, like if someone comes by stealing the shit, honk this horn. And there was during this scene there's a couple of like he knew the people who own the store and stuff like that. They also these asians who also own the store across the street.
Speaker 1:They've done this several times and I'll probably bring it up the other times too. Like, um, I love when directors do this. They do a single shot like a long extended shot. There's a scene like where the camera follows the characters, a couple different characters going back and forth, doing shots. It was incredible because I can only really just appreciate the time and effort that they planned everything out and rehearsed it. That's what I'm seeing like it's mostly good shown, beautifully done in the extraction movies with chris hemsworth on netflix, yep. So I was excited to see ryan coogler get that skill underneath his belt too well.
Speaker 2:So, and this is the thing like a lot of people don't remember this, but he's actually crafted this. Or you can tell he's wanted to do this, because if you watch the original creed, there's a really beautiful one. Or like in the fight, in the first fight there he like follows them around, but he hasn't been able to like really get into his bag on this. Now he does like this every chance he gets. I could never imagine. If one thing goes wrong, you're screwed.
Speaker 1:There's no way to get it back.
Speaker 2:So, especially when you're shooting on film and you he talks about that a lot Like there's not, like you can it's not digital, right? All right, delete that one, let's hop into another one. Like everything costs money. That's why I would never want to. You know, directing is crazy to me, but you know, being able to get this like having it so planned out to a T and living it makes it so much better, it feels more breathed in and it really comes across on screen 1000%.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you noticed that too. I'm glad you noticed that too, um, but to show like how badass these guys and how much they didn't want to get fucked with, like the guys he was, the two, there was two men who was who was robbing his truck doesn't even see who they are, he shoots him in the ass right away and I mean, there's some comedy to it too. And then, um, he ends up knowing them. Even though he knows them and they're cool with them and he's friends with them, he still shoots one of them in the lake because, like I can't have you guys going around saying you stole, almost stole from the almost stole, which was fucking shows.
Speaker 1:Like I'll like, yeah, like they're businessmen at first, like it it was crazy to see. It was great to see and then follow smoky who's with a preacher boy. They're picking up talent, stuff like that and that he knows he sees preacher boys singing and playing his guitar and stuff like that. As a supporting cousin he's like all excited like, oh shit, we gonna make some money now and stuff like that. They pick up, uh, um, the bouncer for the, the, like the, the juke joint leader, and they also pick a person who can play the harmonica and the piano, which that was a funny scene too, because this is where, introduced to hayley steinfeld's character, the way she's talking is so raw and hilarious and so real too, I would feel, because they have a history together, like uh, because they used to date, and then you know that her mother helped raise them and stuff like that. It was great chemistry to see to go back and forth. Like they have good chemistry off camera camera too, to the point where people are suspicious that they're really cheating like cheating on her.
Speaker 2:Shamik Moore is shaking in his boots.
Speaker 1:He's got the heart of this guy so, but the chemistry in this movie was incredible too to see them go back and forth. They were so funny together and I just love her. She's my celebrity crush, haley Seinfeld.
Speaker 2:She's been up there for me forever. She can do it all, but in this movie she is incredible and surrounded by a cast like this, it's hard to give anybody the standout role, Because Michael B Jordan is playing two characters. How do you top that? But every time she was on screen I was literally grinning ear to ear.
Speaker 1:I think we're also at a point of our lives because we're similar age to like Hayley Steinfeld too where we're seeing these actors transition from like younger kid roles to more adult roles. Same thing was in Day of. I think she really transformed into the Challengers movie movie, because now I'm separating from Disney a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1:Haley Steinfeld is like doing that very thing, because even she's in the Hawkeye movie. So I'm still associating you with the younger characters. This one she's definitely getting her own grounding and like we're seeing Hollywood shift a little bit. You know we talked about that before in this podcast. Hollywood is shifting to a new, younger crowd.
Speaker 2:Same thing on this podcast uh, hollywood is shifting to a new, younger crowd. Same thing with glenn powell and stuff like that. You know it's. It's timothy shamblin, robert hansen, you know, yeah, this is a new crop. We're here, um, and uh um, who just played furiosa, uh, on a tale of joy on a tale of joy like this new crop is strong and they're gonna be here for a row incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1:Like I mean I keep forgetting. Like you, I, every time when I hear someone's age, like I get surprised. Like adam divine is 40 already. He's like god damn, weren't you just like 25, like two months ago?
Speaker 2:like who let that happen actually myles teller is another one too.
Speaker 1:He's a lot older than you think too.
Speaker 2:I just re-watched top gun, maverick and sorry, random tangent I just realized almost every side character in that movie is now getting their own roles, like in bigger movies as well, and it's just so awesome to see like this is what hollywood, or like what it's supposed to be about, they're putting in the work and, like you know again, smaller roles, you know things they don't really have to want dialogue, and then they they go through the process so they just appreciate it more so and that's something much better I feel like 30, even 40 years ago, you would never see that like a lot of the side characters, it was always the same main, like 10 to 15 people getting the big roles, only them.
Speaker 1:But like it's a different game because like there's so many different studios, there's so many different platforms, everyone's getting their own chance to shine and it's it's in crane. It's what a time to live in hollywood right now. What a time to be alive man, yeah. So let's go back to the movie. So they do buy this um juke joint from like a guy who's known to be part of the clan, but they're trying to do their best to do everything legitimate. They they do buy it with real money that they got from Chicago and you never get the sense of why they live in Chicago, but you, you kind of get the feeling that they were. They made too many enemies up there, so now they're coming back down here and also they want to make some money too.
Speaker 1:Their idea to make money is open up this juke joint where these people who still live in the plantation have someone to go and escape a little bit, have some fun. It's a double-edged sword because they even make this a point in the second half I was like, yeah, this is a great place for them to come and enjoy, but also they don't got money, they're paying with credits and I don't know why they did this. This is in the movie. It's like, yeah, yeah, we're losing money, we're gonna be out of business in two months. I was like how you're like two hours into the night, why are you making?
Speaker 2:that assumption already because, well, and I think that was like an important scene too to be like you know, we're not no charity. Like, and he told him too uh, he's like you know, if you had somebody hooking, like, would you let a john pay with this? He's like, no, absolutely not. He's like, then, what the hell are you doing right now? It's not the same. Like there's like, you know, it's that, uh, whether you support small businesses or like you know, um, you know things in your neighborhood, it's that thing too. Right, you won't want to be able to give the discount. You want to be able to. You know, yeah, but you got to have legs first, you got to be able to stand up first, and then you can kind of get there. Can't, can't be giving out freebies on the first day, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:You have to establish that right away, because in my mind I was like, yeah, if you do this all the time, that's what you guys are going to be known for, which is like um stacks point. I was like we can't be doing this and like smokey is like more sympathetic to the people and stuff like that. So they open up this joint, they get everything they need to and they like hire like a bouncer, like to check people in and out, and he was funny man because he almost didn't let hayley steinfeld's character in until she he realized who it was and he's like oh, you're from the neighborhood, basically.
Speaker 1:So he's like you can come in and then the next guy comes like hey, don't you owe me two dollars? I cannot tell you how many times I laughed a lot of this movie. So so I mean there's a lot of stuff we're cutting in between because that, like I said, there's no whole hour and 20 minutes, I would say before we get into the vampire stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And before, like, they do give a little history of like, like ancient African tales of what it could be, like I forgot what they're called, like some of the age haze, haze or something like that, yeah, which I felt like. I feel like it was kind of weird that they focused so much on that and they weren't even a part in the movie. It's like, oh fuck, it's not haze, they're vampires. I was like why not just give me history on vampires then you?
Speaker 2:know, dude, I. So maybe like I don't know if there's just a discrepancy of like vampire lore but the whole thing of them not being able to come in, the thing that like the garlic work like I, and obviously we went into it knowing that it was a vampire movie. Danny sitting next to me they say that line like oh shit, their vampire Danny goes. Did not see that coming, he was joking, he was looking at me like that's, that's a crazy place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is why I like going to the movies and it's all like the traditional vampire stuff like we already know.
Speaker 1:Like like garlic and holy water and um, being invited into a house. Like they're not allowed to go into a house, they're invited into. In my mind, dude, like how I got my vampire knowledge of all this stuff, was that old cartoon network special like the like the little girl I don't know if you know I'm talking about. It's like almost like a claymation and cgi kind of movie where she goes and the host of this like a vampire or something like that.
Speaker 2:I cannot remember what the little girl said to me later, I'm sure, but she's dressed up like a fairy godmother or something like that.
Speaker 1:That's how I know my vampire history from this Cartoon Network thing.
Speaker 2:That's what we call a deep cut.
Speaker 1:So then, because as soon as, like that, that bouncer, he, you know, or even the other guys before, like the three people, like they tried, they obviously made it hard, like hey, invite us in. You know, like why can't you just walk in? Obviously made it hard like hey, invite us in, you know, like why can't you just walk in? So, anyways, I still feel like I'm missing a lot of stuff that I want to talk about, but like I don't want to get too too, too much away. Yeah, I would some spoilers, but like still, um, I there's a lot of mystery built around these twins and oh, by the way, I didn't tell you, but like I finished invincible, and the reason I bring this up is because the twins in there um I feel like if they were the same exact person, we talked about how they're a little bit different.
Speaker 1:If they're the same exact person, they will be just like those twins in invincible, you know I'm glad they weren't exactly um, but there's a lot of mystery built in behind these twins, like what really happened to them.
Speaker 1:It's like that, even like their own cousin didn't know what happened to their father and they finally told the story. I almost wish it was a little bit more mystery, like they tell them what happened to the dad, like he killed him when he was a kid because he was being the shit out of him. I wish there was like several different stories that we heard, kind of like the joker, a little bit kind of like a joker-esque like have a different origin story yeah, a little bit, just a little bit more mystery like, because more mystery equals more danger to my eyes yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But in this one, the only thing I'd say is like it shows that background really highlighted the difference between them, because you know he was like well, he used to beat him more than he beat me so it kind of like makes more sense, why one's more trusting and one's more, like you know, hard, like I don't know more aggressive in that way. So even those small details kind of just sprinkled in way more character work.
Speaker 1:Well, even the preacher boy. He got the guitar and he asked Smokey, where'd you get this? And when he's like, oh, we stole, we want it, or something like that from I can't remember the guitarist name, but it was a famous guitarist at the time. And from yeah, I can't remember the guitarist name, but it was a famous guitarist at the time, and he was all excited at the very end of the movie uh, what's his name? Stacks? Hey, you need to bury the guitar. Like no, I can't, it's so-and-so's guitar. He's like who told you that? So right away, like from that one line alone, I feel like everything you said in the movie. We don't know if it was true or not so that was kind of the same thing, I guess.
Speaker 1:Like we don't really know the true origin story. I would hope at least um, but I thought that was like there's so many small details like that, like ryan coogler was so genius about making um, we can get into the vampire stuff at the same time. This is going on. There's also a side story with the vampires. They're being chased by some local indians that are like basically the ghostbusters of vampires and he read they chase into this one house where their clans, members and stuff like that, and like there's rules not rules, but like things that happen. The vampires that we learned throughout the whole way, like obviously, one, they can't be in sunlight. Two, they have to be invited in someone's house. Like, and if you get bitten by a vampire, yeah, you're gonna turn into a vampire, but you also gain a knowledge. It's like a hive mind yeah, hive mind.
Speaker 2:I did think that was really interesting, because you don't typically see that in vampire movies um, and they make the point to be like, you know, the one that turned you. That's not how it worked, you know, like and I think that was also the beautiful part. They also said up front there's no saving them. Once they're a vampire, they're donezo. Yeah, the only way you could kind of save them is by either killing them with a steak knife.
Speaker 1:Not a steak knife, a wooden, a heart with wood. Yeah, wooden steak and, I guess, clothes I don't know if the clothes would really kill them or holy water maybe. I don't know if those would really kill. Oh, obviously sunlight would kill them. I think those are the two main things, but there is a scene too, where they think one of the I'm still getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 1:Let's go back a little bit. Let's go back to the actual juke joint, like how it's open and stuff like that. How wild and crazy it got. Like it was incredible spot. It was a pop in place. How about that scene where preacher boy is playing his is the blues, he's playing the blues. But then it transitioned to show like all african history, like with music, like there's hip-hop there, there's twerking music, there's fucking I'm trying to think Jazz a little bit. It's going all over the place.
Speaker 2:When it switches from the band his string guitar to the futuristic and then the DJ. I knew I was in for something Easily. I don't know how it took us this long. My favorite scene in the movie and it's not even close, and with that being a one-er like you, like, with the camera rotating and everyone that I this is his magnus opal, like this, genuinely you, when he says he put his soul into this move, that's going to be something that people talk about for a long time and I get it. It's not going to work for everybody, because even the girl's working.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of like threw me off there. The first one was like rock and roll, I think, and um, I didn't like it at first but then as they went around, like oh shit, this is kind of cool, it's kind of lit actually. And then like um, there was even like a little bit of asian history music in there too for the asian characters and like ryan coogler's so symbolic in his movies.
Speaker 2:There's some symbolic scenes in the next movie we're gonna talk about um, like to the point where, like the place, like it burns down and they're just dancing like stuff, like it was incredible incredible and they teed it up perfectly with being like you know, they may have brought us over here and they may have done this to us, this to us, but music like the blues we brought, that like that's our, like ancestors, and for that to be the scene that tees it up, man, I, I was in awe.
Speaker 1:I absolutely loved it yeah, yeah, didn't need that. This movie scene movie did not need that scene, but it was just like him giving back to the audience on that's what I mean it was important and this is why you go see this.
Speaker 2:in imax the aspect ratio changed. I don't know, man, I'm about to get giddy. That was so incredible. I was very happy If I would have saw that at home or watching it on the airplane. That would have been the worst mood of my life. You got to see this on the big screen.
Speaker 1:This is also around the same time where the vampires come into play too. Like I said, an hour and a half in out of those two hours and 17 minutes, the vampires come into play. They try to get hard to get invited in. They kick them out. They say no originally, but they decided to hang around and play music in the parking lot.
Speaker 1:I did not know, vampires are Irish. First of all, they were singing jibs and stuff like that. Doing an Irish jib and singing folk music like that. Hailee Steinfeld goes out there because they need money for the place, because they're going under Again. I don't know how they tell that from the first five hours of the night they need money, so they go out there and see if they got money and they give them gold. And this is also where. How about the subtle scene where she gets attacked? You don't see her get bitten, but you see him jump, you fly, yeah, and also, like you said, this movie was inspired a little bit by puss in boots the last wish, something like that. Yeah, specifically the eyes, like these vampires have glowing red eyes, just like the movie is. Puss in boots, I thought I mean it looked cool on screen.
Speaker 2:It looks so cool, but and for sure the horror movie trope, like I had people in my theater being like girl, go, like, run away, like y'all, you, y'all are being too chill right now yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, hayley goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she did. They gave off creepy vibes too like it was the fact that she just sat down next to him like right, you're surrounded right you were nervous about them being clans member and even though she's white, she should still be scared that the clan members because like okay, you're hanging around with these black people like, you're like thinking you're one of them or something like that they easily killed her.
Speaker 2:You're one of these black baby I read.
Speaker 1:I read too, that she did a lot of research in her own history, like, yeah, that is true, that is accurate, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I'm just saying, if I have the need to bring my you know, my great communicator with me to a conversation, I'm not gonna go sit in the middle like the people are. Like who are the threat?
Speaker 1:that's just crazy work um, yeah, she's using that when, anything like I'm invited to the barbecue now yeah. So then um yeah she's going to a juke joint yeah, she goes back to the juke joint where she like flirts with smoky a little bit and then, like they end up hooking up a little bit.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of blood in this movie too. First of all Yo, when she goes back in there and she goes full freak. This movie's freaky, by the way. There's some like out of pocket rated R section. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1:once he really goes to his old lady rated r section uh, how about that? Once you really think, uh, stack, what's the name stack. Uh goes to that, his old lady like yeah, grabs his crotch, yeah yeah, she said your body remembers me.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting there like movie. Are we in bro?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's funny. I also like, too, that they didn't discriminate, like having michael b jordan B Jordan, with a model type. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the differences. Yeah, especially like that's a really good point actually, because it would have been very easy to do, but no, you got all body sizes, all types.
Speaker 1:I was generally surprised by that Good for her.
Speaker 2:Good for him. He clearly liked it, left it for everybody involved and that was a good like relationship too.
Speaker 1:We see, like the cop, like a dilemma, like killing, having to kill her at the end, so, and then like you didn't realize this, but like she was pregnant, because she does make a couple references like, well, there's somebody waiting for me on the side, there's somebody waiting for you too. I thought she was talking about his dad, maybe. I was like, is she sleeping with the dad too? Like what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2:no, well, that's what? Yeah, oh that, because they're uh, yeah, their baby died yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So going back to it like she's sleeping with the dad is crazy that's what I was like confused about. Um smokes gets killed or eaten by a vamp, like uh bitten by a vampire I thought stack, stacks got killed right.
Speaker 1:No, I'm pretty positive of smokes, um, stacks was the businessman straight side, one, um. So that's what I'm saying. It's a little bit too hard. I can tell some of these times the beat and one of the early parts when they were like in town, it was easier to tell because it went out of blue hat, one of the party. It was a little bit different. So, anyways, they get killed and they start realizing what's happening. It's like, oh shit, it's vampires. And then they, like one of the, that lady is like an expert on vampires.
Speaker 1:Apparently she, she, he's a voodoo lady you always got a little crazy booty and they started doing stuff like you know, like closing all the doors, no one can be let in. I would be tricked so easily to saying, yeah, come on in, or something like that. You know, like if one of them comes in, like let me just get my stuff and I'll get going, I was like, all right, come on. I would be tricked so freaking easy no man, you gotta.
Speaker 2:This is why you need to hang around more black people. I knew immediately that I was oh hell, no. And it was the fact that they were like it took them so long, like what's going on. I was like nope, nope, yeah. The moment he said why you've been, you've been ending out of here all day, why you need permission now, and yeah absolutely the bouncer.
Speaker 1:He was like that too, like he was trying hard to get let in there, and they're like, why can't you just do it, like you said? That was a good scene. And then he's like, all right, just give him money, so get out of here. I was like, I was like that was an easy trap. Like why would you do that? Of course he grabs him and he's so quick with the gun too. He grabs him about, bite him and shoots his head. Doesn't even affect him too. He gets right up yep and um, and it's hard because it's like you know, these are your family getting eaten and stuff like that. Like you're the family that are vampires.
Speaker 1:Now, like it's a big dilemma, especially with the asian couple too. Like, yeah, so there's a whole big epic battle too. I don't want to go too much into it because it's it's just too visually incredible. Um and this is where I think people get confused a little bit what? There's a lot going on too. There's only like eight of them fighting an army, but yet they still have time to talk to each other. Like that scene where, like, his girl gets killed and he has to stab her.
Speaker 2:I was like, yeah, good, like two minutes long and like there's like 50 vampires fighting off and like two of them got eaten yeah, and to the point where they had time to be like no, don't kill her, and then he did it, and then they were just like, yeah, that did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that part was a little weird, um how about the scene, too, where they're eating garlic too, like they they each take around just in case? One of them is a vampire and then one singer. She's like I don't want to do this, that's nasty.
Speaker 2:And then he immediately pulls a gun on her and, like you know, preacher boy, like what are you crazy? I'm trying to keep you alive. That is where I was like getting my most frustrated. I was like, obviously, like we're all gonna do this, I don't care if you don't like the taste of garlic, you dumb idiots and then the old man is having that reaction just because he it tastes gross too oh man, delroy lindo, that's my. He was so funny in this.
Speaker 1:He was so amazing. He plays a perfect character, yeah, so then you know there's a big epic battle. One of the rules is too like you can't if you kill the one who bits them, like that's not gonna kill everyone. Like you get to kill one by one. But I was kind of confused too when preacher boys like hits him with the guitar and you know he gets the, the main one gets hurt in the head. All of them felt it well they.
Speaker 2:They talked about that because, um right, when annie, like the voodoo lady, before she gets bit, she had said they all feel what he feels. It slowed down. So that part made, they took the time for that. But they also said but if you kill him it doesn't mean they come back to life. So they had rules to it which worked for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's also the point where Haley Seinfeld's character runs off to. And then Michael Bordan like has the dilemma, like killing his own brother, and there's a scene like I tried, like I protected you, and he goes like you still are. How about the part, too, like, where he puts on a vest, too like that reminded me so much of blade right there that worked.
Speaker 2:That worked and like it was just the energy that he brought, like he was yeah, he was ready yeah, man man such a good actor yeah and then he ends up getting away.
Speaker 1:Then we see it go to the end of the movie, where it's just also the beginning of the movie too, like where he and then we'd see a little bit too like I felt like this wasn't necessary, but it was cool to see like where um stack stays behind the juke place to kill the clans.
Speaker 2:Member everything that just happened.
Speaker 1:Everything just happened like nah, I still got a little more fight in me, yeah, yeah, yeah, with tactical like this guy. Now, he had time to prepare and, like this guy, if he had time to prepare for the vampires, he probably would have killed everybody, I mean like everyone would have survived, I should say he, uh, he was a soldier, you know yeah, it was incredible to see that scene too, like it wasn't, it didn't need to be done.
Speaker 1:I was like, even when it was happening, like I'm kind of surprised, like this is even in the movie, like yeah, it definitely was tacked on, but I'm never going to be upset about yeah, you know, that's all that's.
Speaker 1:That was what gave us a powerful scene too, like with this girl that died and, you know, like the newborn baby. So that also gave me reassurance, like okay, they really were put to rest then. Yeah yeah and um the son, like preacher boy, goes back to the church. I mean, how do you go on with life after that? How do you go on like living the well?
Speaker 2:100 would have been the question I asked. But you know, cutting to the ending, he said like once a week I wake up paralyzed with fear, just reliving that night like and I think that was a very important like this man is not okay, but he's letting it out in his music, would you like?
Speaker 1:would you think you would like dedicate your life to like fighting vampires after that?
Speaker 2:no hell, no see, listen, I lived. I'd be shocked if I told somebody about it.
Speaker 1:I lived and I, now that I know the devil is real, like knows my name, but I mean like I, I would be looking over my shoulder, everything like, especially because the vampire said we came here because of you, specifically you, you, john. I would be like learning everything I can about them, if I can.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess, if you're asking me, we saw him when he was old. I would be in the best shape of my life. Forever. I'd be practicing running marathons. I'd be like a very I'm already. I'd join again. I would make sure that I was the most prepped person there's. I'm not leaving the house without garlic and like one of those you know, industrial floodlights, I'm not playing around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, you know we're talking about the end credit scene here too. Like this cuts forward to the 90s now and this is where we learn that preacher boys look successful, successful blues and jazz player and he's very popular.
Speaker 2:He's at a bar having a drink did you notice the name of the bar? No, it was Perlene's, named after the girl that he hooked up with. Oh really, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:She died too. Yeah, she was a vampire. Someone goes, hey, we got these two people that wanted to pay to just just uh, hear you sing one last song. I was like, all right, that's fine. I was like bitch, like, after everything that happened tonight, I'll be on caution to a t, even if it's like 90 years later well, he and's the thing he said all right, y'all can come on in, and as soon as he said that yeah, why are you inviting people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in that sense, as you can tell, he's still on guard there, I think as an audience, like we were all shocked to see them them walk through the door.
Speaker 2:Yeah All of them, gasp.
Speaker 1:And it was pretty cool to see them all 90s out too with their gear and something like that and um.
Speaker 1:They had that heartwarming conversation, like, yeah, like he said, my brother couldn't kill me as long as I promised never to touch you again. Yeah, and I was like, okay, then why the fuck are you there? Like, are you gonna kill him now? But I loved how they did it. I liked how they did it like they just kept that word and um, probably because, like he realized he's the only family he has left, yep and um. They had that conversation like that line where he goes like, hey, before the sun went down, that was the best day of my life. Was it like that for you? And he was yeah, of course, that was the last time I saw my brother. That was last time I saw the sun. It. It was so emotional, like that. There was a very, very, very end credit scene. None of you stood around for that. Yeah, did you? I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I saw it on tiktok later well, we, we just happened to be in there, but the this little light of mine yeah, which is also the song that I was singing in the church when he came back from um that night.
Speaker 1:Um, incredible, incredible movie. I'm gonna go see this again. I wanted to see it yesterday, but I didn't have time to um, I want, I'm for sure gonna go see this again. I want to take everybody to go see this movie. I think it was phenomenal. What would you give us one out of?
Speaker 2:ten. I gave it a nine a nine.
Speaker 1:No, I gave it a ten.
Speaker 2:I give it like rare because, well listen, it's more of my own personal thing. I try not to give a movie a 10 until I see it twice oh yeah, it's at my threshold of like.
Speaker 1:The best I can give it right now is a nine, but it's going to go up I I thought about I was gonna give it a nine, but then I hard Like, what could they have done to make it a 10? I was like nothing, it's already, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:It's literally nothing else that I could have wanted from the movie man I fantastic dude, this is a mother fricking.
Speaker 1:This is a good movie. I've not stopped thinking about this movie since I seen it.
Speaker 2:Like it kept me up last night. It kept me up last night.
Speaker 1:That's when you said you wanted to do this. In the morning I was hyped. As soon as I walked to the theater, I texted or messaged three other movie reviewers on Instagram about this movie. We were all talking about it. It was incredible. Definitely worth watching. Sinners. Congrats to Michael B Jordan and Ryan Coogler. All the success. Would you want a sequel to this?
Speaker 2:movie? No, but let me tell you something right now. If kevin feige isn't backing up a money truck to ryan coogler's door to get him to direct blade, he's out of his mind that would be out of his mind as far as right now, like that movie's on permanent hold if it's on permanent hold? They don't. The director's already not attached? I think they just lost the writer again. You have a dude who just made black panther and black panther 2 already in the mcu.
Speaker 1:Give them the keys to the castle michael b jordan even said that, um, he hates. He's never been a fan of horror movies and like that, but this is like his. The reason why he wanted to do this movie is to get in there, like to feel more secure about him, and he killed it for a first horror movie. And, um, I I talked about ryan coogler having a lot of inspiration, like this movie was like the at least the plantation parts was inspired by his uncles and stuff like that and he took. He said he had like a mental toll, like I think in the doing black panther he had an uncle pass away who was, I think, the one who inspired this movie. Um, and then doing other movies he like two more uncles passed away, something like that. So he said he got a mental toll like like, uh, just being in the business away because he was away from family all those times, like he's family members passing away, and he had some words of encouragement from his family.
Speaker 1:And and also I don't know if you've seen that interview where Ryan Coogler was on that podcast with Shahid Goofy yeah, shahid Goofy where he talks about Michael B Jordan Not Michael B Jordan, sorry, chadwick, boseman, chadwick and how much of an inspiration and comforting. He was with him too. I'm sure he helped him a lot with that. It was a great interview. If anyone with a lot with that um, it was a great interview every. And if anyone wanted to see more of rand coogler in his thought process, definitely go check out that interview. But he takes a lot of inspiration from his personal life too. So if they were doing a sequel, I don't think he would have as much inspiration as he did for this one.
Speaker 1:So I don't think he'll do as good if he were to do a sequel to it and also like, if they do a sequel, it'd be interesting different times, like I would hope michael b jordan comes back to do it, if they do, because that'd be cool to see what he's been up to, like those 70 years, because you don't age like it. He even gives the option to his, his little cousin. I could bite you right now and you could live forever.
Speaker 2:Your music can go on in infinity like, yeah, I don't need a sequel man, I think you you closed a book on this and then let him go write and direct something else that is you know as inspiring, that he actually cares about. Would you get, because you know what? Actually, here's my rant. If, because you know what, I don't want another joker 2 situation where the first movie was fantastic and then you're forced to make this and it turns out to be dog shit and I say that well, the director isn't ready for that one.
Speaker 1:Like I feel like he did that intentionally too, because he was like he didn't want.
Speaker 2:He didn't want to do it never, because he's a respectable human being, but yeah he didn't want to do a sequel.
Speaker 1:I was like, all right, here you go, he goes. A piece of shit yeah, just say no next time yeah that was a good comparison we're gonna transition to and also um another michael b jordan ryan coogan movie, their first collaboration. Very like, let's keep out. 12 years ago, in 2013, michael b jordan was a baby. Here we're gonna talk about fruitvale station, based on a true story of two events that happened in early 2008 2009, if I'm not mistaken um, do you remember that stuff happening like this? For those who don't remember.
Speaker 2:I didn't um, initially I saw this movie like in 2018, ish, 2017, maybe so, like when I watched it I kind of remembered it, but when or at the end I remembered it because it did the you know recap, but while watching it I didn't. I mean, this is young too, man, we were you know, we were in high school when the movie came out. No, we were in middle school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for those who don't know, this movie is about the story of oscar grant the third, a 22 22 year old bay area resident who crosses paths with friends, enemies and family and strangers. On the last day of 2008. This movie was written and directed by ryan coogler. It's a true story. Um, it's a very, very short movie. It's only an hour 25 minutes and I told you when I, when I talked to you, when I messaged this message about this movie, I was like I'm gonna have hot takes on it. It's my hot take, this movie.
Speaker 1:Nothing happens in this movie except for the last 20 minutes of this movie. I was bored as shit through the whole movie. So obviously, I mean, this is what I'm talking about. They gain skills and storytelling from the centers. You can argue the same thing. Nothing really happens until the end of that movie too. But the whole reason of that like you spending this time with a character to gain, like they're, like, you want to feel emotion for them, you want to like to be attached to them. So when the ending happens, you're more affected by it. I I mean, this is stuff like this wasn't too long ago too, so like this is like. I don't know if I watched a day in my life which I guess that was the whole point of its comparison.
Speaker 2:That was the whole point of it. That's what I'm trying to tell you, man, that that is literally it. It was just how normal the day could be until everything changes. So okay, now let's just say it like that.
Speaker 1:Now let's just say it like that now, let's just say like that. But I mean the whole point was character development too, which I don't think there was any character development, because I felt like we missed all the character development from his past life. Like at this point he's already changed man, he's trying to do right by his, his, uh, his baby mama and his kid. He's like trying to fix things or their relationship, but also the same time he just got fired so he's trying to look for a new job. I mean I feel like everything that would have changed him we already happened. We didn't see that and then there wasn't. So there's to me there was no character development from that.
Speaker 1:Um, there is when I talk about ryan coogler does a lot of symbolic, uh, things in this movie that's seen with a dog. I was like being killed like a dog in the street and no one being around, no one really cared, no one batting an eye. Why are you caring? Same thing. And also this movie ended I mean began with the ending too, just like the previous movie too. And I was trying to buy. Did he do that with creed and black panther? I was thinking, but I can't remember, like that might be his calling card. So I mean, yeah, the movie was just him like living his life, like trying to stay sober. Not trying to stay sober, but like trying to stay straight by, like not selling dope, trying to find another job, trying to get his job back and also being a good family man, like he's a good family man to his mother, to his sister. Um, there's a couple scenes. I felt like that was added for no extra reason, but he said it.
Speaker 1:I guess it was just supposed to be a normal day, like his sister calling yeah, it was the last 24 hours of him being alive so and he seemed like he I mean, I'm not trying to throw shade on you, but he reminded me a lot of you like he seemed like a very positive man. Like, even though he was not he didn't have a job, he's still putting on a brave face. Like he's seemed like a very positive man. I can tell right, michael b jordan was so young in his career he didn't figure out. He hasn't figured out how to cuss, because every time he cussed it just like it raised my ears like it's kind of weird and I hated.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is like actually like probably director's choice, something like that, like him saying bruh bruh bruh, it's 2013, man it bothered me so much.
Speaker 1:Um, it's a very short movie, the actually. I want to give her a shout out too, because the baby mama in this movie, his girlfriend. I liked her a lot. Hold on melanie diaz who plays sofia. She was good in this movie and also like I was surprised to see Octavia Spencer in this movie playing his mother. There was a time this movie only had a budget of $900,000. And for those listening, that's nothing basically.
Speaker 1:That's him like filming on actual streets, like actual houses probably, and they didn't have time to build studios or money to build studios.
Speaker 1:octavia spencer, um, lowered her rate just so they could have the budget for this movie I mean she probably just wanted to be a part of it because it's an impactful story, because it's like our george floyd that just happened not too long ago. It's the same exact thing like a cop goes out of control, like, and the power gets to his head and he does a mistake, or he he shoots a black man for no apparent reason and riots start after that. I wish they could have shown a little bit of the riot stuff after the movie too, but I don't know yeah, and that's like you know you.
Speaker 2:You asked me earlier. I was like you were surprised that I picked this one and it really was to me just the, you know difference of like where they started. Cause this is, you know, this is Ryan Coogler. He was, less than you know, two years out of college, you know, when he made this and it was like almost a student film, like he, he barely got finance and Forrest Whitaker like produced it for him and he was just like hey, michael, you know, I know you're this good actor, do you mind being in my movie to help me out? Low budget. And it went on to like be a festival darling and it just really showed from such, you know, his first feature film debut that he had the skills and we've been able to watch it, you know, grow and develop throughout all this time.
Speaker 1:And we talked about you just mentioned. It was in the festivals, I believe Sundance festivals festival um they got picked up two days after showing which was, you know the forbidden name, the wine scene company. Um, he got picked up and released, which is incredible, like which is every uh filmmaker's dream, you know yep, because I think the only the it's one of the most successful.
Speaker 2:It's. This and whiplash have been like the most like successful coming out of Sundance.
Speaker 1:That with an honorable mention of Napoleon dynamite. Okay.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:And it was such a big hit too. And I believe this movie literally came out the same week as the release of the officer that killed him. Oh really, yeah, I read that too. Um, also, the mother, the real mother of oscar grant makes a cameo in this movie too. She plays a preschool teacher. I don't know if you knew that oh I didn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's I. This movie isn't streaming anywhere, which is like kind of a shame. I had to rent this movie. It's it's a good watch. It's it's a very quick watch, like very quick. Sometimes if I start a movie at night, like if I'm watching for the podcast, I'll stop midway and finish the next day. No, that's only an hour 20 minutes. I was able to finish this one one quick watch through. Let's do it, and it was good for its time because I mean, man, it's taking me back with the flip phones and everything like that too. Uh, how you're texting stuff like that. And then the like the scenes, like the prison scene, because you do get a little bit of flashback. I mentioned, like how there's no um character development. There are scenes in there to try to do that where it flashes back to him in jail. I don't I'm assuming the gang stuff maybe, or something like that, like related, uh, why he was in there, because he has beef with someone in there who catches him outside in um, which uh that was so tragic.
Speaker 2:Like he, it was somebody he met in a good way.
Speaker 1:Hey, oscar I know, I know damn and then this guy overheard, like oscar the name I was like and it triggered him like hey, is this motherfucker from jail, you know? And they actually shot that scene at fruitvale station and the bullet hole is still there, from as far when I read this uh fact about I don't know if it's still there right now, but they shot where he was laying was actually where the bullet hole was, which is incredible, like very impactful. Um, I think this is also well a start of the friendship between michael and ryan and um, I think this is also where michael b jordan caught the bug too, like to be directing on the side side of it too.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep especially, like you know, going from here two years later not even to, uh, to creed, like you can tell like both of them develop. And then that's like the beautiful part about going back to that interview where he said you know, chadwick had such a big influence on both of them. This is also like where, you know, michael B Jordan has always been a star, but pretty much post this going into Creed, was his, his real breakout moment too. It's like now this next level for him. He's learning how to do this Coog, he's learning how to do this kugler's, learning how to be like a truly fantastic director. It's all this.
Speaker 1:This is these are the good moments, man I know we're always gonna have that conversation like man, where would he be at if chad was still alive? Like his career too, I would love to see more collapse between all three of them. Yeah, it would have been incredible. Um, how would you, how do you feel about like michael b jordan come out and say, yeah, he would love to work with Jonathan Majors in another Creed movie? Again he's coming out almost defending him, saying, yeah, he's a good guy, I want to work with him.
Speaker 2:Listen, no comment. I've got very strong opinions about this.
Speaker 1:Have you seen Magazine Dreams yet? No, no, I kind of heard it's crazy though I don't know if it's in theater still, but I do want to watch it I want to watch it.
Speaker 2:Everyone is saying, though, that you know, if it would have came out when it was supposed to, he would have been nominated for an oscar. That's all I'm saying. What a shame, and you know, kank the conqueror.
Speaker 1:So which I don't know. Other rumors that marvel still considering bringing him back, but I don't know because a lot of allegations got dropped too and debunked got dropped.
Speaker 2:What he got, you know, charged for was the thing that we all saw happen, you know. So it's like I just think that you know, in a world where so many actors and actresses, or just people in real life, have done crazy things and have been not accepted but, you know, serve their time, so to speak, and have made a redemption run, it's crazy to me if we just say that he's written off forever, that that would just. That's a waste of everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know marvel's teeing up some good stuff though, yeah, but listen, you know it's all personal views as well like, if you don't want to support a movie that he's in, that's 100%, absolutely Okay. You know, if Michael B Jordan like they really built that relationship in Creed, obviously, and you know everything else, and he was there when Michael B Jordan got his star Like I can absolutely see Jordan being like know this dude and he deserves another chance.
Speaker 1:I don't think that should be controversial to say. There's also, uh, talks about recasting um black panther too. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:I'm I'm actually okay with it at this point. Yeah, I'm okay with it. I I'd want um the dude from snowfall. Uh, would be my that would be good.
Speaker 1:Um what's his name? Denzel's son. I would like him too.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't think that first off, he's short and maybe this is just a personal thing, because Tom Cruise is also short and you know I love his, but he doesn't have like the stature of a black man. He's a great actor, but I think you got to have both like Chadwick. He walks on screen and there's that gravitas right. Like chadwick, he walks on screen and there's that gravitas right like he's, the intimidation is seeping through. He said as as uh, both, uh, warrior and king. Do you think you can stop me like that?
Speaker 2:that should mean something to me I mean if, if michael b jordan wasn't already killed monger, he would have been called black panther too yeah, agreed yeah I actually after this, after watching go ahead, black panther, to be like it needs, to be like dark skin you know, yeah, I agree with that too, but after seeing sinners I did want to go back.
Speaker 1:I'm probably gonna do it tonight like rewatch black panther dude, I'm watching creed just gets you in the mood. Uh, go back to fruit sale station real quick. We did you ready. What would you rate it?
Speaker 2:one out of ten I think I gave it a uh originally like it. You know, for me the story obviously has a little bit more impact here. Um so a solid 7.5. I was gonna say especially for what it was doing. So, yeah, it worked for me nice, we're on the same page.
Speaker 1:I gave about seven um. A lot of times where I get my facts from is imbd, like the, the trivia stuff. I don't know why this is on here, but like it says, listen as listed as Billy Eich's favorite movie. I was like, okay, I don't care, okay, thanks.
Speaker 1:Billy who hurt you. She probably wrote a song based on a song. Yeah, it was great movie Pigs, great movie Sinners. I'm probably going to see another again. Next episode I'm going to be doing the Accountant 2. I'm excited for that too. But have you seen the equalizer franchise? Yeah, of course I'm. I'm nervous. It's gonna be like that where, like by the third one, third one, it's gonna be completely different story, different character, almost I'll tell you, um, I love the first one.
Speaker 2:It was just like truly didn't watch it in the theater, like guys night. We threw it on and ended up and all of my friends ended up loving it and I hadn't really thought about it too much ever. And then when they announced the second one, I was like okay, why, I guess? And I have gone out of my way to really avoid trailers lately, I don't know, I'm just in this phase, but obviously at the theater you sit and watch Before Centers, they showed the trailer for accountant 2. I was like damn, I think I'm really gonna love this movie. So john bernthal is you know, he's in it way more and he's uh, he's my guy uh, I talked about this movie a little bit last episode, but did you see the amateur?
Speaker 1:of course? Yeah, it was fucking amazing, right? Yeah, yeah, I listed it. I was because I've been falling behind my letterbox. I just went through this morning to update all my letterbox stuff and I was like thinking about that movie. I was like it's a great watch. I don't think I'll feel the same way during a second watch so that's I saw.
Speaker 2:I think you gave it a four on letterbox.
Speaker 1:I did and I just did that right now.
Speaker 2:I gave it three and a half um, and it was purely based on. I was like, yeah, because I guess at the end of the day, this felt more not Netflix-y to me, but it felt like you know, like that screaming thriller, and it worked. But I was like I don't know if I'm ever jumping to watch this again, but it is a really good movie.
Speaker 1:Now that you know like everything that's going to happen and I was like, yeah, I don't think I'll be excited to see this movie as again, unless, like, I bring somebody who hasn't seen this for the first time, like I might do, like, enjoy watching that a little bit, but even then I'm willing to be like we can watch it when it comes out again.
Speaker 1:Sinners, I'm going back this week I'm like sprinting back to my theater yeah, other than that, um, april has been an okay month. Coming back to theaters, may is going to be pretty good. There's Thunderbolts, which ticket pre-sales aren't doing that great. That's what they expected to be, but the marketing has been crazy. I'm excited for it $750 million.
Speaker 2:That's my prediction.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a good prediction. We should start doing those too. I'm going to lowball it. I'm going to do $600. Okay.
Speaker 2:All lowball it. I'm gonna do 600, okay, all right. Um, I think it's gonna be a good movie. I I've liked everything I've seen so far and I you know the hype is not there, but I think this is gonna be a true word of mouth movie. So what's?
Speaker 1:because? Like, yeah, it has to be a word of mouth, because, like everyone lost trust in the marvel down dude like.
Speaker 2:No one wants to waste their time um, they're gonna be relying on us yeah, they're gonna be relying on us to go watch it and let them know daredevil just finished up.
Speaker 1:I have yet to catch up on that, but I heard nothing but great things about it. Um, also new mission impossible and lilo stitches coming out for the month of may. Um, trying to think what else is oh the new? Um, what's the bloodlines movie? What's a bicycle? Final destination bloodlines is coming out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, I see I was sitting like this in the theater for that trailer I wanted you to come up for that episode too, but I was like he's not gonna watch, I'm not watching that movie. I was like I'll catch you in theaters for lilo and stitch, yeah, but yeah, and then, uh, june, I think, if not mistaken, jurassic world's gonna be there. There's kind of good movies coming out. Um, there's a lot of monka, because I want to go see minecraft, and all those trailers are different than the other ones because, like it's all kids movies. Like I forgot that it's coming out with a smurf movie that looks stupid. Um, you know, there's other kids movies that I'm not that excited to see. Uh, obviously, I'm really just waiting for Superman and Fantastic Four. It's going to be an interesting month for them to see the comparisons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's going to be the movie Literally going from. That's my big three Mission Impossible, superman and Fantastic Four Mission. Impossible is your big three, dude, dude. I'm telling you that is my most anticipated movie of the year.
Speaker 1:So Lilo and Stitch and Mission Impossible come on the same day. Which one are you going to go see first?
Speaker 2:It's not close, I'm going to sandwich it. I'm going to watch Mission Impossible, I'm going to go watch Lilo and Stitch and I'm going back to watch Mission Impossible. Nice, nice.
Speaker 1:Alright Brandon. Well, thank you so much for coming on. It was a great episode. Great movie is longer episode than I thought it was going to be, but, um, it's impossible not to talk as much as we did about this movie. We could have probably went longer, but for sure. Um, next week it's going to be the account two with uh recurring guests well, for the second time on the podcast, pat, and then glenn's coming back for the thunderbolts after that. So I'm excited the next couple weeks. Um, thank you for listening. Subscribe to us on Letterboxd and the TikTok pages and Instagram. Thank you and I'll see you next week. Stay tuned next week where I'll be saving you a seat. You.
