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Final Destination Bloodlines with Greg Rucinski
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Speaker 2:sorry this is taken, sorry. What do you think separates a franchise like final destination and fast and furious?
Speaker 1:I think, I think that horror fans and the genre fans are the things that, like set it apart. I mean, action movies are a lot more dime a dozen. I think action movies don't necessarily have as much of a draw to them in terms of, like lead actors and things like that. Because if you look at the Final Destination films, granted, his part is very small throughout them, but they got Tony Todd in the original movie and Tony Todd Candyman, that's a horror movie icon and the fans show up for stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Isn't he?
Speaker 1:in all of them. He's in most of them, I'm reasonably sure. I think the ones that were a little bit shitty towards the end I don't think he was part of but this one that was made.
Speaker 2:It's been 14 years since the last final destination. It's insane, um, but I kind of disagree with you. Like you said, dime a dozen, uh, horror movies are harder to make, I feel like, just because, like you're constantly trying to figure out new ways to scare people. Yeah, there is an algorithm like you can easily do jump scares and stuff like that, but, um, this one I wouldn't even say it's scary.
Speaker 2:All right, this, no, I mean like, not like this one's a full-blown comedy, almost at that point, almost because like I mean, if anything, I was twisting in my seat like how disgusting it was, but like I wasn't afraid. Yeah, what I liked about it didn't have a lot of jump scares. If like one or two I could think of, maybe, but I liked it. But Fast and Furious I mean like that's just getting too outrageous where the Final Destination franchise like you know what you're getting when you walk in there, yeah, yeah, like you show up for like these grand weird death traps that happen and you know, know you would never in these movies will see like a resolution, like someone gets away with it, like it continues on.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, kind of like the smile franchise too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I like that idea yeah, I think that the I don't I mean with fast and the furious too, like I mean final destination 2 started out very serious, like totally the original movies. The first two, I would say, are much more more serious and genuinely kind of frightening too, as opposed to these which are intense and tense. But also there are parts where I was like I saw it in a crowded theater and I was probably one of the three or four people that was laughing their ass off at some scenes At the Final Destination, at the bloodlines, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I was laughing. There is a lot of like stuff that's meant to be funny and, knowing you, with this humor, like something probably got killed and you probably laughed at that.
Speaker 1:There's a a couple of them like are we, are we talking about the movie? Are we diving in yet or not? Just quite yet?
Speaker 2:but, yeah, we'll get into the theater experience because I have an interesting one too. Um, but welcome back to this. He's taken. I'm your host, rob miranda. Greg rosinski is back on the podcast. Hello, greg, it's been a minute since you've been on. Um, I've been talking about it like, yeah, I'm expecting this is going to be a better year for movies than last year and we're just getting into that season now. Like we had a couple good, great movies. Have you seen sinners yet? No, I've not. Oh, I've seen it three times in theaters.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's fantastic the last two movies I saw in theaters were this and minecraft. Oh my god minecraft.
Speaker 2:I've seen that because my girl wanted to go see it that movie sucked.
Speaker 1:The movie was stupid, but I think they did the best they could you know, put yourself like an eight year old's foot yeah, I'm sure, like for the target audience, it was like great. But also I would think the target audience is also people around our age too, because Minecraft is a bit older. Yeah, we grew up with that. I spent many, many months just high off my ass building shit in Minecraft.
Speaker 2:On top of that they get Jack Black and Jason Momoa, which they both well. Jack Black was pretty decent, but Jason sucked. I hated the kids in that movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the useless yeah but, um, I've been going to movies a lot lately and slowly I'm starting to see a lot more people coming to theaters. Like I think the summer is going to be a great summer for movies like jurassic world, superman, fantastic four. Um, leo and stitch and mission impossible is coming out next week. Yeah, there's a lot of good blockbusters coming out this year. I'm excited to get into it. Actually, lilo and Stitch I'm definitely seeing that Lilo and Stitch and Mission Impossible come out the same day. Fewer to go. Which one are you going to go see? Oh, lilo and Stitch, really, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:That kind of surprised me. Yeah, I'm not a Mission Impossible guy. I really am not last one, tom cruise, is good after. But I like tom cruise back in like the jerry mcguire days or like those kind of risky business days. Yeah him now it's hard for me to separate him from the whole scientology aspect of it and like the fact that he's probably crazy I said the same thing, but then I watched top con maverick and the last Impossible.
Speaker 2:I felt like I was able to separate them. Yeah, he was pretty good.
Speaker 1:He's a good actor he really is, but like he peaked in Jerry Maguire Jerry Maguire is one of my favorite rom-coms.
Speaker 2:Wasn't like in the 90s, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real though, like back in the day when Tom Cruise somewhere probably I mean you know that fact like uh uh, christian bale, he modeled patrick bateman off of tom cruise no, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I did read a fact about that. They were gonna make thatake that with Austin Butler.
Speaker 1:No, they can't remake that.
Speaker 2:I think they just cancelled it recently.
Speaker 1:That's a very specific 80s kind of style.
Speaker 2:And I don't like it. How are you going to remake it? Is it going to be the same exact movie? Are you going to change some things? Because?
Speaker 1:you lose If you update it and modernize it, maybe, but it loses a lot of the whole satire of the culture of the 80s where it's just all excess, excess and them doing coke and talking about getting reservations at Dorsea.
Speaker 2:Thinking about when's the last newer movie that you've seen that they did drugs, like that coke and stuff. It's been a minute, I feel like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't seen that stuff in film in a minute, yeah.
Speaker 2:Some random like. I had a whole list of Hollywood updates. I wanted to go over these but I forgot it. But one of the ones I remember is King of the Hills coming back. Did you see that In Hulu, with a lot of the same creators coming back too. I like how they do this because you never see this in cartoons. It's going to be set years later where Bobby's an adult now I think he's going to be a chef or something like that.
Speaker 1:Were you a big fan of King of the Hill. I fucking loved King of the Hill.
Speaker 2:I loved King of the Hill. Are you excited about this?
Speaker 1:I am excited I will give it a good shot. I think that Hank Hill is one of those that if you bring him to the modern age, you could get a lot of good stories and a lot of good. He's a timeless kind of character and I think putting him in today's political climate and like, yeah, putting dale in today's political climate, I mean. The sad thing is, though, with dale, you know, johnny hardwick, the guy that voiced him, died while he was recording it right yeah I think.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they got. I'm almost positive they did not get a replacement. I think they are going to deal with it in the show. I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Do you think the sister would probably be live in today's world, like, oh, she has an OnlyFans or something like?
Speaker 1:that, oh, luann, yeah, yeah, probably I could see the sister doing something like that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, other big news superman obviously we got a new trailer. I don't know if you saw it last week. I'm, I'm down for the tone, like I'm. I like the james gunn kind of like jokiness of it. You know, like the first three trailers came out it was cool. All it was was showing like action sequences. But like this last trailer we got like an actual some look into the storyline a little bit and the trailer got me hyped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm stoked for it I have a good idea of like I think it's going to be based around almost like the all-star superman storylines um, they have set out which storylines is it looks it looks fun, like I I'm. Yeah, I get hesitant when I see like the world building parts of like adding the green lanterns and hawk girl and uh, mr, terrific yeah, they're just filming supergirl, which is not supposed to even come out for over a year from now. Yeah, I'm I'm hesitant when I see that stuff get like thrown in because I think you could tell good superman stories without it.
Speaker 1:I think superman's one of the very underrated characters of dc. I think that he is the stories that you could tell, especially like if you want to modernize it in today's world like he is a immigrant, you know, like he is literally an illegal alien yeah, and the trailer shows him like fighting a war and outside our country, something like that yeah, like you could tell good political stories with him without the weight of the entire dc universe yeah, yeah and like, as much as I love the idea of like nathan fillion, like, do you, do you know Guy Gardner at the Green Lantern?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's supposed to be brash and cocky and kind of like yeah, common ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you think he could?
Speaker 1:do that though Nathan Fillion. Is that just great casting? I think that's amazing casting and they're nailing the comic. Look of it.
Speaker 2:I wish they would've, maybe if Nathan was a little bit younger no, no, it works, it works with that bowl, haircut and everything.
Speaker 1:I'm on board for it. You know, I like. I like Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor a lot dude, he's such a great actor.
Speaker 2:I just saw the. The juror number three yeah, oh my god, he's phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Nicholas Holt is gorgeous. I would watch him read a phone book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's one of my top ten actors right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Fantastic Four is right around the corner. Are you excited for that?
Speaker 1:Yes and no. I didn't go see Thunderbolts, thunderbolts. I'm kind of curious about Thunderbolts is pretty good. I've given my take on Marvel in this before, but I'm kind of over it.
Speaker 2:Thunderbolts might get me back into theaters, or at least on disney plus, uh, but I think the new captain america is supposed to come on disney plus like next month yeah, the big wet fart yeah yeah, so I mean thunderbolts, the past eight or seven or eight movies.
Speaker 2:We got nothing but questions like how it's leading all together. Like this one, it does answer a lot of those questions, so I think it did give me a little bit more hype for Fantastic Four and the new Avengers movie coming out soon. Um, and it's. It's a great movie about mental health too.
Speaker 1:So that's, what um that's what.
Speaker 2:That's why I think it did a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Um, for I'm always like cautiously optimistic on that because I love the fantastic forest characters.
Speaker 2:I think that in the power hierarchy of these characters, I think they're some of the strongest that there are in the marvel universe yeah, on top of that, like there's very few characters in the mcu that actually have superpowers, you know, so I'm excited for that reason alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, you know, and the the. I'm curious too because I know that franklin richards will be in this and which is that actually have superpowers. So I'm excited for that reason alone. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious too because I know that Franklin Richards will be in this, which is Reed and Sue's son, first son, yeah, and I think he is considered I'm almost positive he's considered a textbook mutant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's an Omega mutant. He's one of the strongest in the whole universe.
Speaker 1:So, like I hope that it isn't a Fantastic Four movie co-starring the X-Men, you know, I hope it is. Oh, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2:I think you're definitely going to see them interacting in that new Avengers movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like people are theorizing, it's going to be the Avengers versus X-Men.
Speaker 1:I've heard that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I would like to see. I wish Iron man and Captain America were here, for that though.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I'm a cheap one. You give me the nostalgia factor and you give me James Marston and Halle Berry a storm again.
Speaker 2:That whole lineup for the chairs James Marston was probably the most excited for. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a sucker for that. They'll get my money. I'm annoyed by it. I'm annoyed by it, but they'll get my money for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited they're filming right now. I mean, I've seen set leaks like costume leaks of like Doctor Doom specifically, but I've only seen one post of it, or one or two posts.
Speaker 2:I don't really buy it, because I feel like that would be bigger news. We're talking about horror movies, though. Today we're going to be doing the new Final Destination Bloodlines. It just came out this past week and for a throwback you picked a movie that I think it came out last year, right, yeah, 2024, the Monkey, stephen King. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I remember when it came out in theaters I was kind of skeptical on seeing it. I just didn't at the time, and I'm glad I watched it. It is scary in some ways, but not as scary as you might think, no, it's just like this.
Speaker 1:One More of a dark comedy.
Speaker 2:Final Destination is, like you fighting Not fighting, but trying to escape death. But death isn't a physical being or anything like that. The monkey is the same thing. But you have something in trying to escape death. But that isn't a physical being or anything like that, but it's. It's, the monkey is the same thing, but, like you, have something in your hands yeah, like it's a little bit more of a tangible object.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah so that's why I think you picked a perfect movie to go along with this, uh, final destination. I did the first movie on this podcast. It's a great franchise yeah it's like it is very gruesome. It's not for everybody, um, because there are definitely times where I'm twisting in my seats and each time a movie comes out like they just outdo it Because these are all freak accidents.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they do get freakier as they go along. I think the most memorable one was a Finalization IV with the log truck. No, that was II, ii.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ii opens with the accident on the highway. Iii is the roller coaster. Four, I want to say, is the accident at the speedway. Five is a bridge collapse. I might be getting that wrong, but I think those how many are there? Total is this six. I think this is six.
Speaker 2:They don't list it here or the state on that.
Speaker 2:It's kind of weird too that they need to find a destination bloodlines I mean, it's a family thing yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely unique, take on it, and I think this is a perfect way to reintroduce this kind of franchise. Um, because, yeah, let's just get into it, let's just get well, you know, before that let's get to talk about theater experience. I went to go see this on opening night on Thursday night. I originally was going to do it at five o'clock, cause, like cool, it's two hours to get up by seven o'clock at my night.
Speaker 2:But traffic was so bad I was like I'm just going to go later, but it's been so hot lately If we didn't turn on our AC yet, I was like fuck this I'm. And, um, it was kind of packed. I went to the one in hobart here who that usually is never packed, and there was a good amount of people too, like of all legions, to the point where I was like like I think you might get scared of this, but I think I was probably more scared than they were no, wow, my theater was pretty packed too.
Speaker 2:I was really, what did you go on?
Speaker 1:I went saturday or saturday or 50 and it was busy in there, yeah really, yeah right, I'm excited to hear that.
Speaker 2:I hope it does well. I was surprised this movie got released on IMAX too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to do well. I know it's going to do well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was very surprised it was released on IMAX with Sinners still making a routine and also Thunderballs is still going pretty strong. What are you looking? Oh, there's a light there. Never mind, I'm like, what the hell is that? Um, yeah, it was a great experience, this one. I don't know if they had a popcorn bucket specifically for this one, I wouldn't want a final destination popcorn bucket, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I feel like you would reach in it would. It should just be like somebody's busted skull open or something I've seen weirder.
Speaker 2:So I mean, uh, because the the new mission impossible pop, mission impossible popcorn bucket got released, yeah, and that looks pretty sick. It's just like a bomb thing where you push it down or something like that. Also, lilo and stitch has a pretty good popcorn buckets going on right now. Um, let's get into it. This movie movie, final Destination, bloodlines, played by a recurring violent nightmare. A college student returns home to find the one person who can break the cycle and save her family from the horrific fate and inevitably, Inevitably Thank you.
Speaker 2:It awaits them. I mean, I'm not going to spend too much time explaining the plot of Final Destination, because this is like the sixth one. We all know how it goes like. Someone sees like a group of people dying, she realizes, just like her, glimpsing of the future. She comes back, she warns everybody, she saves them, but then death still finds them all. Yeah, before it's just been a group of people like friends or even strangers before, who they had to save. But this one is a little bit different. That's actually a lot different. A woman in the 50s same thing. She witnesses death, but she was able to save everybody and she survived and she grew up, she had a family, she had grandkids, uh, and death was like you guys weren't supposed to be born, exist ever. So he's killing the whole bloodline, which is insane.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, well, everybody that she saved it went on to have families, and those families weren't supposed to exist yeah, we'll get into that, but it that concept alone I was very excited for and it's just death. Being a petty motherfucker and just being like, yeah, you think you're gonna get away, nah, I mean there is a funny scene where, like the woman who's seen, with everything um stephanie no, not stephanie the grandmother iris iris almost has like a funny like roommate kind of like back and forth with death.
Speaker 1:Like I see you fuck face yeah, I can't like it's funny because, yeah, like she, stephanie, has visions of her grandmother in the accident that happened. We'll talk about that. Yeah, and she goes to visit the grandmother and the grandmother's in a fucking bunker. And she's off her fucking rocker.
Speaker 2:That bunker was pretty insane.
Speaker 1:It was pretty cool, I'm not going to lie, but she's fully crazy and she's just eyeballing all the different possible ways.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Do you ever just look around in your room and like dude after watching these movies?
Speaker 2:definitely you walk out the theater, like noticing every little like shift of wind or something. Yeah, so I don't know. Let's just talk about the beginning, because like it sets up in the 50s, like I said, and it's interesting, I don't think we've seen that before, like it's always been in real time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the different structure of it kind of threw me off, because I was expecting it to be like hey, accident, she saves them, we follow, we see that sequentially. But we just see the accident and it cuts to it being a dream, it's present day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was pretty insane because obviously from the trailers we know she goes back and saves everybody. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty insane because obviously from the trailers we know she goes back and saves everybody. But like the format, like that, I thought for sure this movie was going to open up with that barbecue scene in the trailers, yeah, and then go back. I thought it meant like a different family that had nothing to do with it. But no, but it. It's pretty traditional how it starts off, like this family, this couple, go on this date to this new skyscraper.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like it reminds me of the needle in seattle restaurant and then, uh, opening night apparently got finished five months ahead on his date to this new skyscraper. It's kind of like it reminds me of the Needle in Seattle yeah, the Sky Needle restaurant. And then opening night Apparently got finished five months ahead of time.
Speaker 2:Right, that elevator guy was. His voice kind of annoyed me. Well, and she's like.
Speaker 1:Is that a good thing that it was finished five months ahead of time?
Speaker 2:Right and it's a clear elevator, the floor going up on the elevator, glass elevator, like yeah, yeah, that would scare the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the dance floor up there. It was glass.
Speaker 1:You know they didn't give a shit about that shit back in the day. No, people were dancing.
Speaker 2:I thought about this too, Like, dude, we don't have any more clubs that you go dancing anymore.
Speaker 1:It's kind of sad. Yeah, yeah, because you're such a.
Speaker 2:But it's fun Like they closed Shades of Time recently and that was a place a lot of people wanted to go dance, but anyways, they go to this new restaurant in the sky. This is where she has a vision. There's a lot of people notable in this movie, like the singers and the little fuck-faced little boy.
Speaker 1:That's one of I don't want to like For people. Are we assuming people watched this already?
Speaker 2:You know, if you were gonna see it, I feel like you would've seen it by now.
Speaker 1:That is one of the most satisfying things I died. I busted out laughing when it happened.
Speaker 2:He was a little shit in this movie, just being a little rascal and stuff like that. He was the one who set off the whole occurrence of events.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite fucking scenes, I think, in any of these movies, because he is one of the last ones to die.
Speaker 2:I think like the third of the last to die.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the initial accident, and he's one of the few that manages to make it. I think he might be the only one to make it to the ground, right? Yeah, he makes this little piece of shit. Kid, who's like picking on people and just being a dick yeah you know, he manages to make it to the ground and you see him just fucking strut and like, you see him happy and smiling and then a fucking piano just crushes him. Dude, that's one of my favorite things about this it's one of my, it's like a fucking looney tunes yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, uh.
Speaker 2:It's one of my favorite scenes too, but like you, don't see that character ever again, I thought, because he was like I thought we he was before the iris wasn't he?
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think so. I think he died after okay, well, that's the case.
Speaker 2:He died before he died. Okay, that's right right because her iris and um jb I thought he was after and that's why at the end, I thought I was going to be like I'm crashing with him or something like that no, no, no, it's a piece of shit. I think it was funny, though I wish they would have shown how he died, though that would have been pretty cool, or at least show his obituary or something like that yeah, yeah, yeah, that would have been cool like a little nod he still died on a piano, or he died like on a skyscraper or something like that so, like the people that she saved.
Speaker 1:Though it's, it stands to reason that, like the other movies, were based on that too dude, I thought that too.
Speaker 2:I thought that was a theory. I thought one of the you know the other grandkids or something like that, would have been like someone from the first movie or something like that you know. That would have been insane, that like connection. There it is believed, and it's pretty obvious, that this is the same universe as the front of the destination, but there's nothing really directly tying them to each other, uh, other than the fact that what's his name, um?
Speaker 1:no, no. There is stuff like because in the grandma's death book like she's got a mcguffin, that's a oh really, yeah, a death book where she's got all of her notes that she's trying to give to stephanie, to you could stop death with this. And she's flipping through it and you see things like oh, log truck.
Speaker 2:You see things like I did see that, but like they also talk a lot, there was a log truck reference, a couple of them in this movie I look like that.
Speaker 1:That was pretty funny that last bit.
Speaker 2:You know where that comes yeah, yeah, it's great um and there's like other small instances that like show, it's the same universe. For instance, I read that that beer that they were drinking at that barbecue scene it's a fake beer company. But it was also established in the second fast and furious. I'm not fast and furious uh, foundation, yeah that's pretty cool, like little details yeah um, that's creepy right now, I'm sorry, yeah anyways, he goes, so let's go back up.
Speaker 2:She saves a lot of people. There's like maybe 30 or 40 people that she saves and it makes sense that, like death took this long to come to them because he had a lot of work to do. Yeah, um, I feel like you saved a lot of time in this movie from them trying to figure out what's going on, because Iris already knows what's going on, so you kind of get that stuff all together, which is pretty smart, but now it's like a Stephanie trying to convince her other family too, I guess it sets it up pretty well and like she goes to visit Iris, the grandma, who's like the family dynamics and who's related to who kind of confused me a little bit, it was a little bit hard to keep track of.
Speaker 1:But she goes to visit the grandma who saved everybody and got like essentially disowned from the family to be like, hey, grandma, why am I having these nightmares? Yeah and uh, the grandma's like grandma kind of lays down what happened and tells her what happened, and stephanie's like you bitch, you're fucking crazy, I'm leaving. And the grandma is like no, no, no, you need to take this book, you need to take this book yeah and she established. The grandma has not left the place in like how long, like years, decades I think, so she's been essentially who's helping her?
Speaker 2:who's getting her groceries? I was wondering.
Speaker 1:She has medication and she's got diagnosed with cancer, so you're leaving the house, yeah, um, she said, yeah, don't poke too hard, but um, she like, and she goes she stands at the threshold of her house to follow her granddaughter out and she stops and it's one of the best, one of my favorite moments, because you see her and you hear the wind kick up like death has been out there this entire time just waiting and it's a close-up shot.
Speaker 1:It's not my chance yeah, well, yeah, because it's like a close-up shot on her eyes and you see her look at every single thing, and then you would see it in the book too, which I love. That, yeah, yeah. So she's and she takes the chance and she's like you just need to see it. You need to see it. Take this book and you know, seeing is believing. And then, in a matter of seconds, a freak, freak accident.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wouldn't you think that Death would try to hurry up and get it before she gives her the book?
Speaker 1:I think Death has a sense of humor.
Speaker 2:Oh you think so, because I feel like it would have been a lot easier to kill them too, if they didn't know it was coming.
Speaker 1:Well, Tony Todd establishes that when you fuck with Death, things get messy. So I think Death, at least this personification of it, is a fucking bastard. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's gotta be, it's gotta be. So, after she finally believes him, she wants a family, because their mom was estranged too. The mom was trying to protect him from all this stuff too, but I feel like you should be with them more than anything right now. I mean, you heard what like it's inevitable, inevitable, so you might as well enjoy the time you have left, well iris's granddaughter, iris's daughter, stephanie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I mean she, she couldn't have a life with her kids because, like of the way her mom was, the mom, like it's. It's a thing that gets passed down, just a jet, like you say, it's bloodlines, like this is a essentially a generational trauma that keeps getting passed down yeah, I was wondering, like if you were that worried about it, why do you have a second kid too?
Speaker 2:you know, but like she probably didn't realize at that point, yeah, most people don't plan that she's pregnant like at that at that the thing that, yeah, so yeah, she probably didn't realize at the time. Um so anyway, she was once a family. There's all that barbecue scene too, and this movie fucks with you a lot as a bartender.
Speaker 1:I was going to bring that up for you too. It fucking stressed me out seeing it.
Speaker 2:I thought of you immediately, because there's a scene where their broken glass gets into ice and it's teased throughout the whole scene Like oh, is someone going to drink it? Is someone going to step?
Speaker 1:on it. It's a fun scene. I love that scene isn't like the rake under the trampoline, like it opens, like it cuts to them, doing it like a family barbecue yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2:It just sounds like. It makes you think like, oh, this can happen just any time of the day. Well, yeah, there's that and like you see every single character and they're all doing things that could easily go wrong, which is stuff we do all the time, yeah, like starting the grill or or like, like, uh, jambalaya, not seeing something underneath your foot like plain junk jenga yeah, yeah, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2:It's just like these people are just standing around all these death traps and there's the first victim is like the uncle, who I didn't like his character at all, that's gonna be.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, he needs to go, yeah, um but the way okay.
Speaker 2:So I don't want to get too much in every single detail of the whole movie, but like what was your favorite death scene in this movie?
Speaker 1:my favorite had to have been there's okay, the the they rush to the guy in the tattoo shop they think that he died overnight that first.
Speaker 2:That was a hilarious scene too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he goes missing and they they think, oh, he's overnight. That was a hilarious scene too. Yeah, he goes missing. And they think, oh, he's not answering. They think he's dead. This is also my. I'm glad you said it. This is also my favorite. One of the funniest fucking things I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 2:Stephanie calls it out how it's going to play out too In the most ridiculous way, and there's no way it's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Well, they rush to, they find him and they're like you're alive, you survived, how did you survive? And he's like well, I'm just walking down the street and nothing's gonna get me. And you see, stephanie, look around. She points to what like a tree trimmer and a leaf blower and kids playing soccer. And she's like when she says it it sounds like the voice of a paranoid, schizophrenic. Yes, because she's like well, the tree trimmer could fall, it's probably how her grandmother sounded yeah, yeah, exactly like it goes back to the generational thing, like the trauma thing.
Speaker 1:But she's like well, the tree, the, the buzzsaw could fall and it could startle the guy with the leaf blower and it could blow dust in the kids eyes. They're playing soccer and the soccer ball could come and hit you in the face and then the, the guy's like that's fucking crazy, you're nuts, leave me alone.
Speaker 2:And then you see, I think what was teased earlier than that, like in the book you saw like an image of a truck, uh-huh, so you knew a truck was gonna come to play. I think they'd show in the trailer. He even hit by the truck in the trailer yeah but like when it didn't, you immediately saw the garbage truck in the back.
Speaker 1:I knew something's gonna happen with that, yeah, yeah, and you think that like, yeah, this guy, like he may have survived one night, but you think it's coming for him again. Yeah, but they run into another cousin who's like a little bit of a bitch and kind of estranged from the family still, I think, and they exchange words in the parking lot or like in the driveway and it's a great, it's a fucking great shot. It's one of my favorite shots in the entire movie, but it's. You still are focused on the argument between the main character, her little brother and the guy who survived the night prior you see the other relative in the background right go jogging down street and then you see the exact chain of events happen where the guy gets startled with the leaf blower. He blows the dirt into the kid's eyes, they kick a soccer ball directly into her head and she falls into a garbage can. That gets grabbed, dumps her into the back of a truck One of the funniest things I've seen.
Speaker 2:It sounds so ridiculous, just saying it, it was pretty cool. I was shot too. It was yeah, it's is. And to see her like you crush because, like the garbage man doesn't know she's in there oh yeah, and they crush, oh god.
Speaker 1:And the thing that makes it seem much funnier, listening to you, listening to stronger by britney spears yeah, the garbage man.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll swipe it through tinder, I think. Yeah, so then, um, but that was also confusing scene too, because like okay, did it just skip somebody because, like the older brother was supposed to die and like you know, part of the final destination is like they figure out the way you die is in the order you died and that's the memories yeah, whatever with the vision but this one, like you, die on your date of birth yeah like you, you die from the father, then the first born, and the daughter, the youngest yeah, like a little timeline kind of thing.
Speaker 2:So when it skipped the oldest grandkid. Everyone was kind of confused because uh turns out.
Speaker 1:He's not a member of the. No.
Speaker 2:No, you find out his mom had an affair and he's not his real dad After getting a tattoo for dad and everything Yep. Oh my God. And then he's like Jerry Fingal is my dad or something. Is that why you wanted to play catch?
Speaker 1:all the time. Like I said, this movie was way funnier.
Speaker 2:This movie has a good sense of humor and I think it's probably the funniest of them uh, the kid who plays bobby, the second oldest or the youngest, owen patrick, owen patrick joiner, dude, it reminded me so much of a young freddie, prince jr. Yeah, yeah, so much. I was like he was. He was okay in this movie. I think he would have been most likely me scared of shit, like kind of accepting it. Okay, what can we do to do? And he became paranoid himself. He knew he was next in line oh, yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, there's a funny peanut allergy joke reoccurring. There's another funny scene where someone dies through an MRI machine.
Speaker 1:That's a wild one.
Speaker 2:After getting all his piercings ripped out, even his cochlear.
Speaker 1:See, and that's why I'm saying, like, death has a sense of humor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we also skipped over, or I skipped over humor. Yeah, I think we also skipped, or I skipped over.
Speaker 1:um, this is a graduate meeting with tony uh, tony todd who, unfortunately, since we're making this movie, he has passed away since yeah, we can't like not talk about tony todd for a second because, like I was genuinely startled by his appearance in this movie when he turned around, because like I remember tony todd as this big, hulking, kind of like intimidating figure, and like you could tell that that was filmed within the last couple of months.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I read that they knew filming this here who was sick?
Speaker 1:Which is why they did that. This would probably be his last movie. They let him choose how his character interacted with him, or like how what he said really, and in like, there were moments where he's talking about, like, life being precious and everything, and it is kind of moving because, like it is, you're looking at a man who is dying, yeah, and he's talking to horror movie fans he's like iconic.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, he's amazing like he's a great actor, the original candy man's fucking terrifying, you know, like he is an intimidating, scary presence and it is. It's sad to have lost him yeah, yeah, but I was able. I was extremely happy with this cameo oh, yeah, yeah, especially his ending line too.
Speaker 2:Like I'm gonna enjoy the rest of my time as long as I have it him accepting his fate, which you know is probably him talking in real life too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was pretty sad, but it was very moving and it's it's an oddly moving kind of like thing to see in a final destination it would have been nice too. There's like an uncredited scene and he just dies peacefully though that would have been nice, you know yeah, I think that would have been a little bit too morbid, though, given like a little bit true, true, like I thought it's like I thought there would have been any end credits scene, but there wasn't yeah, I didn't say I had to go.
Speaker 2:I went to the restroom and I thought I heard music, like there was playing or something like that. But no, I looked it up, there wasn't? It was kind of sad. Um, stephanie, let's talk about the main actor, stephanie. Um, stephanie Reyes, she's good, I like her.
Speaker 1:Her fucking big ass eyes, like her reaction shots some of the times cracked me up. Yeah, like I don't know if she was doing it intentionally, but there was like a lot of times where you, she was just wide-eyed and just fucking you know. Yeah, not necessarily the biggest fan of her, but oh, I really I liked her lot.
Speaker 2:Let me see what she's been in.
Speaker 1:I think the little brother is in the Monkey right, or am I crazy?
Speaker 2:The little brother is in the Monkey, as who?
Speaker 1:I thought he might have been one of the kids in the Monkey. I don't think so. Maybe I'm getting him confused with Chucky, because I know the actor that played Charlie, the little brother, was on chucky for a while that actress?
Speaker 2:she was on the flask. Was she iris in there too? I don't think that was her.
Speaker 1:I don't think that was her um, but the uh it ties up.
Speaker 2:That little kid wasn't chucky, but he's on the monkey oh, the way they tie things up is pretty satisfying.
Speaker 1:I feel like you know, yeah, the deaths are very, very gory.
Speaker 2:I didn't talk about. They go to Tony Todd and see how they can fix it. Wasn't I was thinking about this in the movie? Wasn't one of the ways you can skip? It is like going out of order.
Speaker 1:I like they say, say like killing somebody is one of them like I I haven't re.
Speaker 2:I re-watched up to three recently so I don't know all the rules. Yeah, that about the same, like yeah, if you kill somebody you get the remaining years, and there's a scene with the babies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:They talk they think about it would be killed and they, they cut to like the uh ice, or what was it? The maternity ward? Yeah and they're standing right, right out in front of the maternity ward. Dude, what are?
Speaker 2:the things I thought about. There's no way the autopsy room and that big place would be on the same floor. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker 2:And on top, of that an MRI machine too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to poke holes. You can't poke too many holes because it falls apart.
Speaker 2:But that MRI machine falls apart. But that mri machine, the bit was was pretty fun, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I mean, and also one of the ways you can try to skip it is you flatline, you die yeah you come back to some. Someone has been brought back to life and that breaks the line um, which they have to do. Has the guy eats peanuts and stuff like that and he was very specific what kind of peanut he wanted to eat because he was like fuck it, and he almost dies from this allergic reaction.
Speaker 1:But he gives himself an epipen and he gets like a spring in the head you know it's some ridiculous, freak, freak accident yeah, like it's from a vending machine, spring too, and like it goes straight into his head and then it starts to twist like it does in a vending machine. Yeah dude.
Speaker 2:The third act was great with the cabin oh, yeah, yeah and um, it definitely led me somewhere like think, where I was going to predict the ending when I seen that lake drive by. It's like someone's going to drown and they're going to bring her back to life, and sure enough, that's how they play it out. But then at the end you find out yeah, that's not how that works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, that's not. She didn't technically die. Yeah, this is fun.
Speaker 2:and then there's like a last, very, very last minute, like the last 0.2 seconds of the movie, is the final death. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess that's how most of them are yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:You know there's a bit of thematic kind of tying in because at the end of the day it is a penny that you know the same penny. Yeah, it's a penny that starts all of this like back in the fucking 50s you know what's like crazy?
Speaker 2:I was like that ends it too my. My final thought was like if that penny was from the 50s, the same penny that's probably worth some money by.
Speaker 1:That was my final thought I loved. Like you know, like they, they drop a penny, like maybe about 20 minutes before act three starts and a woman picks it up and like yeah and you know that penny's coming back at some point.
Speaker 2:Well, another plot hole is like the ending the penny rolls onto a train track and it shows like how it gets caught in the tracks, I mean, but then it zooms out was like how the fuck did that penny get there?
Speaker 1:well, to a point like I thought it was hilarious because the way that penny was bouncing it almost looked like it was like happily being like kind of like, because exactly like she, the old woman, drops a penny and it bounces down a series of stairs perfectly, and the way it bounces looks like it is happy. It's like boop, ba-doop, ba-doop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like finally, he's probably happy because, like, it's been decades yeah like this is my last thing I gotta do. Yeah, so then, um, but I mean, I think train derailment I like tyler, picked a penny too, because pennies are often seen as lucky. You know, that was a pretty interesting.
Speaker 1:Take on it too. But like at the end of it a train derailment and those, that fucking log truck comes back yeah, I mean that was probably one of the most expensive shots in the whole movie I don't think, because the train coming through houses and stuff like that and then it just cuts to black.
Speaker 2:I mean you're stuck like oh man, no one survived. But also that's how in their reality, that's how it would keep going. The cycle will continue. There's no ending to it. Same thing with Smile.
Speaker 1:I like how they never look too much in the deep, like how to solve it or who to confront or something like that, and then get a satisfying ending like no like, are they doing? This is real. Three I want to because because if they like what they set up at the end of the second, smile, right, yeah, then that means like everybody in that audience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I predicted or I suggested I wish I don't know if I talked to you about or somebody else like it would be interesting to see, like yeah, it was a pop star this time, maybe someone like a president or our senator or something like that.
Speaker 1:You know who gets it?
Speaker 2:that would be interesting yeah, yeah, so or maybe we can see like a different country, like how we've seen like um, I think what also I confirmed was a quiet place.
Speaker 1:Three yeah, different country yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know quite. Place three is a different country. I think it's the same family still. But yeah, interesting we have. We saw a different perspective in New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But how do they react in Tokyo, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, tokyo is loud. Yeah, A lot more electronics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, final Destination was a good watch. What did you see? I actually have to go watch this again tomorrow night with a friend who wants to go see it. But I would say it's probably like second only to the original in the franchise.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's do that. Let's do what's your favorite fan? Uh, I would think it's probably one.
Speaker 2:This one on one this one well the roller coaster, that I think the number three, two and then like the last two are kind of interchangeable for me so also in the first one I remember after we were watching there was a scene where someone slipped on slippery water Like it's in the bathroom, but then at the end you see that water retracting. I was like, okay, so death can do shit like that yeah like make it look like an accident.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is weird, because they don't really do that stuff. They let shit unfold a little bit more like an accident.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is weird that because they don't really do that stuff like right, they let it, they let shit unfold, right more right they make it more like natural, and these as opposed to it being like supernatural yeah, and I like how they never give like death, like a form either, unlike the monkey, what you're going to see. But because he's everywhere, he sees everything, you know, just like you know the other side of it too, god and all that and it's, it's insanely so the mother chose to freak out and, like, dedicate her life to figuring this out. Yeah, I can see some people also dedicating their life to god too, you know, trying to save, save themselves through that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't touched on that too much here, I mean there's a lot of shit that could kill you in a church too, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is why it's saying to me how that kid went to the hospital Like dude, you know you're next in line and you're going to go to a hospital.
Speaker 1:I think there's more ways that, oh, they say that they're like, yeah, they're like full on saying like, oh, there are so many ways to die in a hospital.
Speaker 2:So, as I mentioned, like walking out the theater, you're obviously like more notes, oh, the popcorn machine's popping a little too loud or the wind is starting outside. I walked out of the movie theater and this is when we had that bad storm and almost all of Marable is completely black and I drove home through that. That was very terrifying. After seeing this movie, I bet. And then, like also before that, there was the conjuring trailer. Yeah conjuring trailer. Yeah, that looks terrifying.
Speaker 1:That fucked me up more than this movie I'm lukewarm on that, like the the one before this kind of soured me on the franchise, because yeah, yeah, I didn't like that, I didn't see. I've seen like the first, first one, definitely the first one's great, the second one's really good I've seen the nun ones awful. I think I heard that too yeah, um I I don't deal with a lot of the um other frant like sp spinoffs of it.
Speaker 2:Like the nun and Annabelle.
Speaker 1:There's one. What is it? Annabelle Comes Home, or something.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:But like it deals with her, annabelle getting unlocked in that room full of haunted shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like all this different haunted shit, apparently comes out Like there's a wolf man in it, there's like a crooked man in it.
Speaker 2:I gotta look into you, but there is a podcast that goes over all our cases. Yeah, I gotta find that for you.
Speaker 1:They're con artists, I think at the end of the day, you think so? I'm almost positive Because I've listened to podcasts on them.
Speaker 2:I think that the Warrens, at the end of the day, were a little bit more manipulative, oh man, but I like how they're not doing that in the movies. Yeah, yeah they, because, like the movie, I'm not a horror fan or like I don't like them, but like the movies are so interesting storylines yes yeah, yeah, I'll give you that you're a big horror guy too, um, but let's switch over to stephen king's categories now.
Speaker 1:The monkey is based off his, I think that it's a little short story that it was in I don't know. I want to say one of the richard bachman books. I'm not sure in bachman was the fake name that he used to ride under during the time. Yeah, richard bachman I think it was like it's called like outlanders or the last of us, I can't remember uh, but it's a little short story about a monkey toy that curses and kills anybody that really comes into contact with it.
Speaker 2:Now, and I'm assuming in the book it's the monkey with the symbols.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, but they can't do that for licensing Copyrights. Yeah, yeah, because Disney has it.
Speaker 2:I think so yeah, because it was just a toy story I read too, but they switched it to a drum.
Speaker 1:It's the same exact effect, though versus the pain, I think you're able to build more tension with the drum, because the toy, the whole gist of it, is. This family starts with Adam Scott, first of all.
Speaker 2:That was pretty cool to see him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this guy. It's a toy monkey that apparently got passed down by the family and kind of hidden away in a box that curses people around it once the monkey gets wound up. And you have to wind it up right. It doesn't just kill on its own. You have to be the one to wind it.
Speaker 2:It kind of reminds me of that one movie Was it a Brad Pitt movie where you push the button and someone dies.
Speaker 1:It's the Box with Cameron Diaz and Marshall.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing someone dies.
Speaker 1:you twist them like thing yeah um, but you get money for that that's true, I was gonna say, um this, you just twist it and he kills somebody, but it gets passed down family through family and these two kids find it one day and they twist it for the first time and they like all this fucking death starts to happen.
Speaker 2:The thing starts with a babysitter, who the babysitter was named as a kathy bates character. And um misery, misery, it's the same name, interesting yeah, um yeah.
Speaker 1:It starts with the babysitter, moves on to the mother. You know like one of the boys is bullied heavily in school. So, like he kind of. There's an element of the monkey drawing people to turn it, I think.
Speaker 2:I think there's like I was going to bring that up too. So, like the dad originally had it.
Speaker 2:And then he tried first of all pawning it. I was like, if you can't destroy this, there's no way that's going to work. So, anyways, and this oh, I meant to tell you like this movie starts off immediate like with someone getting killed in a very freak way. So anyways, um, the dad must have died and the kids go through his closet and find the monkey there. Do you think that monkey was always there, or because you know it can teleport? Or I think it was teleported at the right time, right?
Speaker 1:at the right time.
Speaker 2:I think there's an element like it wasn't there, like last year. Yeah, I think there's an element where, once it knows when it could be found and it knows, like when to be found, yeah, yeah, so okay, I'm glad I'm not crazy in that theory, no, um, so, like you said, they start doing it and it's creepy as fuck. First of all, the monkey is terrifying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a scary looking monkey.
Speaker 2:it's a good design of the toy and the camera work is so great because it makes it look like it's looking at you, like you, the audience member, through the theater. It's terrifying, yeah, it's intense. Like I had to break eye contact with the thing. It was terrifying and like, well, his open mouth concept is pretty scary. I think that was a popcorn bucket, like the drum was a popcorn bucket the drum was a popcorn bucket part.
Speaker 1:But the wind-up, the actual act of winding it up, is a great way to build tension. It gets wound up and it holds one of the drumsticks in its paw and it has a little mechanism in the paw where it spins the drumstick before it goes down.
Speaker 2:Almost like it's randomly picking people. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a great way of like. I like the idea of that style better than a um like symbol monkey yeah, yeah, I can see that too, because how's it gonna like do that? Yeah, it's not as like tension building. I don't think. Yeah, um, this movie's got a dark sense of humor too, a real dark sense of humor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the mom being like shit mom.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was just going to say like the mom in particular, because who's the? The babysitter dies right and they end up going like the mother. The dad's not really in the picture because he died or is like out, like I think he said out for cigarettes. Out for cigarettes and for cigarettes, yeah, which I read that steven steven king.
Speaker 2:That happened to him in real life. His dad went out for cigarettes, never came home, which is why he throws it in here.
Speaker 1:But uh, you know, they go to the funeral of the babysitter and the kids are upset and the man is just fucking dark and then she's like, yeah, you're gonna die one day, it's gonna happen. No, like telling these poor fucking children it the actress that plays her She-Hulk.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, that's her.
Speaker 1:That's Tatiana.
Speaker 2:Masley yeah, oh, I love her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was. I like She-Hulk. I'm one of the only two people in the world.
Speaker 2:I love She-Hulk.
Speaker 1:She-Hulk was fun.
Speaker 2:She-Hulk. She was also in Parks and Rec as Aziz's girlfriend towards the later seasons.
Speaker 1:You're right. You're right. That's funny. The mom's got a real dark sense of humor. The movie is about death and what it does to people at the end of the day, but she is just aggressively morbid about it in front of her two children that just watch somebody die in front of them.
Speaker 2:Right, because she's going through a mental shit too. This movie kind of reminds me of the anime Death note yeah, yeah, I get that except like you know, it's random here versus you could pick what you wanted to, and so the kids freak out like they realize, like this thing is killing people.
Speaker 1:I think they do try destroying it, but doesn't they find it, they dump it in a well or something.
Speaker 2:They end up dumping it in the wells like okay, if we can't destroy it, we gotta at least hide it. But they don't realize at the time that it teleports, yeah. So the kids grew up like I forgot. It's like 25, 30 years later.
Speaker 1:I mean there's an element of it teleporting but too.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the kids grow up um we follow geez, what's his name in the movie, how we follow how's character. First of all, like he had a glow up too.
Speaker 1:He looked like a handsome guy in this movie.
Speaker 2:Was he one of the manana's brothers in the show?
Speaker 1:I don't think so, oh, um, but no, like it follows him and he's, like he's getting the whole movie's narrated by him too, which I like. That because, like one of the kids, like the, the dynamic between the two brothers is one was kind of the much cooler one and the other was like they were young yeah, yeah, much quieter and a lot less like aggressive, but the other one was a bully and kind of a shithead.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we follow the one that was not as cool or as popular and he's trying to reconnect with a son that he kind of ran away from because of the trauma and stuff like that, yeah, which is wild to me, you don't even have a kid.
Speaker 2:If you're that worried like that At one point, do you think you would be?
Speaker 1:But point people have kids, yeah you could straight couples walk out the door and trip and they fucking fall. And but I mean like I'm okay.
Speaker 2:So the reason he was with that girl. So at one point in his life you think he was happy I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think he was probably trying to just distract himself.
Speaker 2:So maybe the trauma like caught him up later in life, because some people happen. But yeah, maybe. I mean I like how the fact that he was traumatized and he was that scared of it even as an adult, which I feel like it would be a very realistic reaction it would be.
Speaker 1:It would be, 100 would be yeah, same thing.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised he would return to the life of god assuming, because I just keep saying that's probably what I would do yeah, yeah, trying to save yourself, dude.
Speaker 1:Sit there and talk to the priest about the demon monkey that's trying to kill your family I don't know.
Speaker 2:You know what a movie favorite horror movie of mine is is the pope's exorcist. I think you did that. Yeah, because that story was so interesting. Yeah, I mean, it was very terrifying, but I was more loved it because the story is so interesting um, yeah, that that movie was ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Russell crowe and his fucking motorcycle pope. I would watch that movie Motorcycle Pope with Russell Crowe.
Speaker 2:I'd love to see Adam Scott in here, but I also saw Elijah.
Speaker 1:Wood was in here too. Oh yeah, yeah. Like there's a lot of like. Elijah Wood is a big indie horror movie guy Like they cast. He plays in a lot of smaller budget movies because he loves that kind of shit.
Speaker 2:Oh man, he had a show on FX and Wilford I respect and I always love these actors that can like.
Speaker 1:There are genre actors that have made their millions in livelihood off of that. They don't look down at horror. They treat it with respect. I was going to bring her up. She, very famously, has done award speeches where she's like they don't look down at horror.
Speaker 2:They treat it with respect. Like Jamie Lee Curtis, I was going to bring her up.
Speaker 1:She very famously, has done award speeches where she's like thank you to my Halloween fans.
Speaker 2:She loves the horror genre. But I like how she also can be successful doing other stuff. Yeah exactly, she's a very funny person too in real life.
Speaker 1:But she's not like Jennifer Aniston who wouldn't even fucking mention the word leprechaun yeah, she was low budget in that, yeah, but at least Elijah Wood said this?
Speaker 2:Do you think anyone interviewing her brings it up and she's like nah, fuck that. I would wonder. I would wonder I guess she'd come on the podcast. I would definitely ask her about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tell me about your time on Leprechaun. Yeah, see how fast she gets up and leaves. That'd be funny. That'd be funny, but no, like the, the dad does reconnect with the son that he has, but he starts to have these dreams of you know like shit going down yeah, yeah they, they say that their other, like the monkey, is back. He's having like heavy dreams where, like there are like, because it's the first like time.
Speaker 2:I love that too, like the dream single which was like well, he's a giant monkey and he's killing you himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly like there's dreams of that and he starts to freak out and he tries excuse me, he tries to reach out to the brother, right I don't know if he tries reaching out, the brother reaches out to him oh, because the aunt dies and he's telling like, hey, our aunt died like, and the cops use the word freak accident so they automatically think it's the monkey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a go check on it, yeah and then you know, and it ends up being like a little bit of a road trip kind of thing, where the brother doesn't really want to go do this, but he's getting the impression that, like the monkey is back, so they need to find it and do something with it, and part part of that means going back to his hometown to reconnect with the brother.
Speaker 2:Would you go back?
Speaker 1:or would you go the opposite direction? Okay, so like when the brother, when the what was his name? His name's Hal, because they're twin brothers. Yeah, so like the meeker one with the son that he's trying to reconnect with Bill, that he kind of Bill, okay, the meeker one with the son that he's trying to reconnect with he ends up taking him to his hometown to try and find his brother. So like the son's kind of just dragged along on this.
Speaker 2:Sorry, this is going off topic real quick. Do you know the actor who played the young? It's the same, it's one kid. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The same guy. I didn't know that. Yeah, there's, I thought it was real twins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's doing dual roles I thought it was real twins.
Speaker 1:No, but the son gets kind of dragged along in this. But you ask if I would go back If I was having a conversation with my brother about a demon monkey that was trying to kill my family again. And while I'm having the conversation, a woman explodes behind me. I would hightail it back home, back home, yeah, yeah. Because what? Because he wasn't even near home when that happened yeah and this, what this?
Speaker 1:I love this bit because that's the first real bit where I'm like I, this is my kind of movie where she just somehow the pool, that hotel pool that he's staying at, gets electrified. A woman tries to jump into it, she and just fucking the second she touches it. She didn't get it in the water, oh, no, just explodes. It's hilarious. He's covered in blood, yeah, and he's like uh dude.
Speaker 2:there's a point in this movie where I felt like this guy's so numb to death, Like he has no emotion.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, like Final Destination and like this movie, they make it seem like life is a game. You know, and people are just getting tired of the game.
Speaker 1:You know, like him, yeah, he's just.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's on his path to find it and kind of try and put an end to it yeah, and then, like you know, this is a spoiler alert for people who want to see the monkey, give me two seconds. But this is like I didn't like the ending. I didn't like the brother's story arc. Yeah, I liked how it was him who was actually doing all this shit, um, and I liked it was him who went back and he looked for it and he's been waiting for it. He's been hunting it. I did not like the way it ended.
Speaker 2:It kind of like ends like with the power of our brotherhood you know, yeah, I mean it's not a happy ending, though no it's not, but like, I feel like he almost like changes character immediately when he falls down and he's trying to help his brother, trying to help him up. He's like psych, psych, you know it, psych, you know. It's almost like a different character at this point he resorts back to his 10 year old self.
Speaker 1:He's fucking crazy, though, too, after all of that, because you saw how he but he was like you guys are going on a road trip.
Speaker 2:Can I come? I was like you just tried murdering me for decades and you killed millions in the innocent.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, yeah, and like the idea of go him going back to his hometown to reconnect with the brother and try and figure out what's going on, and then he gets there right, and the he's. It's an open house for the aunt that died and the aunt dies in a pretty fucking hilarious way right, she's like fish hooks in the face.
Speaker 2:Then she caught on fire and then she got her. She ran to a for sale sign like the wood one straight to her head.
Speaker 1:It's funny. This movie is hilarious.
Speaker 2:But it's funny, this movie's hilarious. But you texted me like I'd never seen it and he's like it's hilarious, like oh, it's a comedy. No, I just have a fucked up humor.
Speaker 1:But like the guy goes to an open house and everything and like the the retail agents be like yeah, everybody in town's been dying in crazy ways.
Speaker 2:Tra la la, here's this house you do see a montage of people dying throughout the neighborhood oh yeah, it's great, like one's, like lawnmower, just like Final Destination. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Great sense of humor in this movie. I like how the sun came up like an important role in the third act too, yeah. You know, I was like oh man, I thought the sun was going to die.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess it makes you think that that way. But what would you give this? We didn't even do final destination first, let's do this. So the final destination I'm gonna say is probably an eight out of ten for me. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:I felt it was the probably best one in the series, but it's not for everybody I mentioned, I want to go see it again tomorrow, but would you go see it again in?
Speaker 1:theaters, not in theaters, I would probably go see something else would you?
Speaker 2:would you buy physical media, like like a DVD, for this? Probably?
Speaker 1:probably Interesting Because it's not for everyone. Yeah, I think it's made for people that have a little bit more of a darker sense of humor, like people that are more of a fan of the way it got, because the franchise got more and more jokey and a little bit more tongue-in-cheek as it went on. But I think if you got a sense of humor and you like the dark comedy aspects, you would fucking love it I'm gonna give it a seven out of ten.
Speaker 2:Um, I had a great time watching it the first time. It was humorous, it did all that stuff and it was pretty gruesome. It wasn't that scary it's.
Speaker 1:It's a good theater experience, like in a crowded theater where people are like squirming and laughing and everything like. It's a good one yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:But going back to re-watch this again tomorrow, I mean it's not gonna seem, in fact, like I already know what's coming. And yeah, it's not one of those movies where the more you watch it, the more detail you can find in something too, you know. So I mean it was it was good fun first watch, so I'll give it a 7 out of 10 uh, the monkey is definitely like nine out of ten for me I would give it an eight out of ten.
Speaker 1:So we're right there, I mean because, like, we didn't talk about all the great deaths though okay, what was your favorite one in this one, besides the pool one?
Speaker 2:the bees probably one of the stupidest things I've seen in a long time, but I loved it I mean the way it was shot too, like it was a close up of a bee and then like all of them come out. But then you see it coming out of his pores and everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just go straight into this guy's mouth right, like a million of them, yeah, and just crawl, like it's a terrifying thing to think about. Yeah, because, like, it just makes me want to squirm. But I love this sense of humor, this dark, almost mean-spirited sense of humor that the second movie has, because it is kind of crazy, you know, yeah, in like the climax of it, you know, the brothers are reunited and the one brother you know the details are laid out where, like, yeah, he went to go find the monkey and the entire time he's been winding it up, hoping that it kills his brother. It's pretty dark, yeah, because he blames his brother and, like, within the first 20 minutes of the movie, the brother is the first one to actually wind up the monkey because he thinks that, yeah, can we just talk about too the bullying that this poor kid went through in the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a group of girls by a group of girls by a group of girls.
Speaker 1:This is how they set up our main character. He's like this meek little nebbish kid and he's getting ruthlessly picked on by a bunch of girls and they're throwing bananas at him right and he comes home just covered in banana mess and he snaps and he wants to like.
Speaker 2:I think he puts all his blame, his hate, on his brother too yeah, yeah and then so he winds the monkey trying to kill his brother. Yeah, he's killing his mom, yeah and in the brother.
Speaker 1:The older brother blames him for that for the rest of his life and the entire time. He's back there in a solemn town just winding up the monkey, hoping that somebody like it finally goes toward the brother yeah but there's that, though, where, at the end of it I don't know if it's like I'm trying to remember is he winding the monkey up multiple times, or is it just like?
Speaker 2:the monkey getting yeah, or does it click after one wind-up, or something Well.
Speaker 1:The monkey either winds up multiple times or it gets stuck.
Speaker 2:Or gets pissed off.
Speaker 1:I thought, yeah, that too, because then it just starts like pounding, pounding, pounding, pounding, multiple times in a row to the point where, like, a plane crashes nearby.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like a bus crashes, bus cheerleaders yeah.
Speaker 2:That was insane. I also like the babysitter's death too, like the way it was shot and like the lighting. It was perfect and the head falls off. I thought they were going to show like a grilled face or something. Yeah, it's like the movie's funny, I mean like they express like how they hate going to funerals and now that's all they're going to and then so the mom's funeral was pretty bad because like he got the older brothers like mom, get up, you know that was pretty sad, but I also didn't like the ending, like how he gave himself like a super villain costume with his funeral and his regular shirt A little bit yeah, a little too like comic book-y towards the end.
Speaker 1:Plus, he gets to a point where, like I don't know if the world just changes at the end of it but you start seeing ghosts, like it gets a little off the rails at the end. That was kind of very confusing.
Speaker 2:I thought it would at least be his dad, or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't know if it's just like the monkey broke the fabric of reality with the last bit or what, but still, overall, extremely good movie yeah.
Speaker 2:I loved Adam Scott in this movie. He was only in it for literally five minutes. You don't even see pictures of him or anything like that in the movie, but I mean I like him as an actor a lot. I've been watching. I finished watching Severance. Have you seen that? No, I want to. I like him as an actor a lot. I've been watching Severance. I finished watching Severance.
Speaker 1:Have you seen that? No, I want to, you need to, I need to get an Apple.
Speaker 2:So then I like so, knowing he wanted to do this, he probably got a lot of money, but he probably just did it because he loves horror movies too. Yeah, you know, I love that about actors.
Speaker 1:Did you get that little bit of trivia that where the they go to once the mom dies is the actual director? No, I thought that was actually the guy who plays saber tooth, and though no no, it's the actual um director of the movie and he's good and he's the guy that ends up getting trampled to death in a cow accident.
Speaker 2:A hunting accident, yeah, but hunting accident, but he doesn't get trampled.
Speaker 1:I think it by cows, yeah I fucking see shit like this makes me laugh. Like you give me a horror movie that's essentially a live-action cartoon, I'm on board yeah.
Speaker 2:Greg, I don't want to take any more time because you got a hard out today. What movies are you looking forward to coming out?
Speaker 1:God, you know I still want to go see the Thunderbolts. I'll see it on Disney when it comes out, because I do.
Speaker 2:Like probably 85% of the population.
Speaker 1:I'm intrigued on it. You know like I'll watch it and like it's gonna come out it will grab me back into marvel?
Speaker 2:I don't know. You definitely should watch it before.
Speaker 1:Fantastic four, definitely weapons I want to see weapons so bad you know what else I want to see?
Speaker 2:what the walk? Do you see that? Oh, yeah, yeah, the long walk with the long walks mark hamill and it, and it's another Stephen King story.
Speaker 1:Dude, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The concept seems so fucking boring, but it looks incredible. Yeah, it looks pretty good.
Speaker 1:Simplicity at its best, I would say I'm going to go out on a limb and think that Weapons will probably be the horror movie of the year. Really Not the Conj theater really not the conjuring no, not the conjuring I think it's going to be weapons, because weapons looks crazy. I don't know what it is yeah, it's one of the best it's like one of the best horror movie trailers I've seen in a very long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah out of all the reactions like even though we're like the fantastic four trailer reactions videos I've seen I think weapons have the most out of like people who want to react to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what the hell's going on, but I am on board.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Plus, it's from the director of Barbarian. Did you ever do Barbarian on here? Yes, yes, barbarian is fun.
Speaker 2:Barbarian fucks with me like for a year and a half.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, like you know, your foot stops running fast as you can and you're gonna go to a different air or airbnb ever again. No dude, no fuck. That barbarian was fun for me because it was one of those, like I knew it was a horror movie, but I don't think it was really heavily marketed barbarian. Uh, I agree with that. The only reason I saw the trailers because I went to movies and I think that if it was marketed, it focused primarily on like the first 20 minutes where it's like setting up, like, oh, and you'd think Alex, Alex Karsgaard was the villain.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's setting up and playing with the idea of the tension of like oh, this guy's booked my Airbnb too.
Speaker 2:And it's like in reality it was like three movies in the one Cause you see Justin Long's movie and then like it's great though. It was had because I went in blind. Yeah, and like the sense of humor that that was great marketing man.
Speaker 1:Great good movie, solid. Yeah, so with weapons being directed by the same guy, I'm on board um, what's that?
Speaker 2:talk to me directors. They come out with a new movie too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the bring her back. Yeah, that looks pretty interesting. I've read a review and I heard it's super fucking depressing, oh man yeah, like I heard, it's like the feel bad movie of the year, oh man, but it's super fucking depressing, oh man. Yeah, like I heard, it's like the feel-bad movie of the year, oh man, but it's like good, but also you know, like heavy, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I've seen like obviously the big movies, but there's so many movies out there like the smaller movies I don't see anymore. I just need to get back into that. Thank you so much, greg, for coming back on yeah, my pleasure uh, I have a big announcement coming up soon, but you will be back at some point yes, I would like to try to at least um I don't know. Definitely recommend watching severance over the weekend yes, I'm also watching the studio on apple tv with seth rogan phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Um, I know I'm a little bit late, but I want to start getting to the the last of us let me get your apple tv password.
Speaker 1:Just put it I use somebody else password. I think you're using my Mac still right now. So everybody is that you're using my Mac. No, I'm using my.
Speaker 2:It must be my friends. Yeah, because someone's been watching South Park and I was like I thought it was you. Stop me.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I would all right.
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