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Karate Kid: Legends with Brandon Knight
Rob Miranda and martial arts expert Brandon Knight dissect the Karate Kid franchise, from the 1984 original to the new Karate Kid Legends film, exploring what makes these movies enduring cultural touchstones.
• Brandon shares his expertise as a martial artist with black belts in four different disciplines
• Both hosts discuss upcoming horror releases including new Alien and Predator projects
• The original Karate Kid's production history, including Pat Morita not being the first choice for Mr. Miyagi
• Examination of how the new film incorporates elements from both the original trilogy and the 2010 Jackie Chan version
• Critique of martial arts tournaments in films versus reality
• Discussion of the safe, family-friendly approach taken by Karate Kid Legends compared to the original
• Overview of Cobra Kai's success and how it revitalized interest in the franchise
• Excitement for upcoming martial arts films including The Smashing Machine and Mortal Kombat 2
Check out Brandon's martial arts movie podcast "Kung Fu Pizza Party" on all major platforms and follow @kungfupizzaprty on social media for more martial arts movie discussions.
excuse me, is anybody sitting here? Sorry, this is taken. Sorry, welcome back to this. He's taken where I'm your host, rob miranda. It's been a minute since been on the podcast, but I came back for the all-new karate kid legends movie. So join me. It's been on I think the first time this year. Yep, uh, mr brandon knight. Thank you for coming on, brandon. Of course it's good to time this year.
Speaker 2:Yep, mr Brandon Knight thank you for coming on, brandon. Of course it's good to be back.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to remember the last time you were on. I know you were on for what's that? Board game.
Speaker 2:Dungeons Dragons, dungeons, dragons, but you were on after that, I believe. We did Alien Romulus. That's what it was, yeah.
Speaker 1:Was that you, I think so we did the second. We did the original Alien movie. That's what it was.
Speaker 2:We did Aliens 2. Yeah, and Romulus yeah.
Speaker 1:Which I've watched like three times since then. It still holds up. It's so good. It still holds up, and I actually wanted to talk to you about this. This is one of the topics I've written down, sure.
Speaker 2:Do you even hear about the new show coming on hulu, aliens I? I have heard, I've heard about it and, adjacent to aliens, I'm very excited for all the predator. There's two predator movies coming out this year too, and I'm excited for both of them you know, the last one was prey right yeah, yeah, I wasn't a fan of prey.
Speaker 1:I'm like in the okay out of the normalcy for that. Like I didn't like the prey because like okay, part of the guy taken down by a dog.
Speaker 2:That's true. Yeah, fair point.
Speaker 1:But you know, aliens, I love the franchise. I never watched the franchise before the podcast, before Alien rhymed with this really.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:And then this one takes place right before the first Alien the show comes out. It's going to take place right before the watch it in too Nice, which I'm definitely going to go through before I watch the show. It's a lot and for even being in the 70s movies, it still holds up.
Speaker 2:It still holds up very well, oh yeah, that first one is Part of it is the practical effects element. I think that really helps keep things grounded and real.
Speaker 1:The Alien Rhyme is the actress who plays the pregnant late girl. Yes, I can't remember her name. Do you know? You know what I'm talking about, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, she was Dora the Explorer.
Speaker 1:She's huge coming up like she's gonna be the new Superman movie the new. Peacemaker movie. She's a hawk girl. She was just in something else that I've seen not too long ago. She's blowing up. I think she's the biggest one of the whole franchise that movie that came out. I love her and I love everyone with the android in the Alien Realm he's coming out with something that I really wanted to see, was it the long walk? You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard of that one. It's a Stephen King. Oh okay, it's the long walk.
Speaker 1:Literally all it is is people walking the people walking the entire movie and it's like a competition. I don't know if it's government funded or or what, because they have like tanks and army men following them. All you're doing is walk. There's no finish line. There's like a group of 20 guys or more or something like that. Okay, you're walking until there's only one of you left, but if you stop walking, if you lock these rules like if you go below three miles per hour, if you stop stop more than 10, 15 seconds, they kill you.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's intense and it looks good. You think you could do it easily, but no, you don't realize how long you have to walk for You're trying to outlast everybody else. There's people getting cramps. There's people who are hurting themselves, who die from dehydration, they collapse. Wow, it's so simple, but it looks genius, are?
Speaker 2:you a Stephen King guy? Do you like Stephen King's stuff?
Speaker 1:I am becoming a Stephen King fan. Not enough to actually go read the books or anything like that.
Speaker 2:His books are ginormous, so I don't blame you for that.
Speaker 1:I heard they might be redoing the Shining, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:I mean it would probably be about time. Yeah, they've done it, they did the reboot of it.
Speaker 1:Speaking of it, penny, I'm like nerding out right now like it's been a minute talking about this stuff. Penny, why is this show's coming out soon? Yeah, I heard about the dairy, dairy, dairy.
Speaker 2:Where's that? Where's that coming, hey?
Speaker 1:max max, I don't okay I want to say within a month or two. Okay, or maybe it was like this fall, it could be around halloween time sure um, I'm not a big it fan because it terrifies me, but it looks fucking good. Nice, it looks good actually, like all those movies are good. You know, also a horror movie looks good. I'm not. Are you in a horror movie like that? Yeah, a little bit. Uh, I've seen the trailer for the new conjuring movie oh, I haven't seen that one yet I've seen that in trailers like yeah for movies play and
Speaker 2:um, it looks terrifying oh really it looks terrifying. The final, the final one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's supposed to be their last case, I believe, and um, you know there's a podcast based on that couple. I'm excuse me if I forget their name, but um ed and lorraine warren warren. Yeah, there's a podcast that goes through all their cases and songs oh, yeah, yeah, the movies does exaggerate a lot of it, but it's still interesting. Like I'm not even a big for I'm terrified of these movies, but I'm so fascinated because the story is so interesting- yeah, they're very interesting people, and Annabelle is apparently lighting things on fire in the south as we speak.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 2:Speaking of horror, did you see horror shows? Did you see there's's a? I think Peacock's getting a Crystal Lake.
Speaker 1:Part of the Friday the 13th universe yeah, I think it's like a Prequel and um she's this actress I can't remember her name Is playing his mother. The one who's like she played um Velma In Scooby Doo, in the James Gunn Scooby Doo.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, sure. In Scooby-Doo and the James Gunn Scooby-Doo oh, okay, sure.
Speaker 1:She's also Hawkeye's wife in MCU. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember her name, but she's playing his mother.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I heard the casting for Jason himself or what.
Speaker 2:I mean, I imagine it would just be some kid.
Speaker 1:Some movies that I've recently seen that did not make the podcast. I see Mission Impossible see mission impossible I'm gonna go do like many reviews with them later, but mission impossible. If you're a big fan of mission impossible, I think you would love it me. It was all right. It was okay. I'm gonna forget about it. Okay by next year. Um, I also saw the new lilo and stitch.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of surprised you haven't seen that I know it's been hard for us to get to the movies this year. My son's three now, so it takes up. He takes up a lot of our time. How was it?
Speaker 1:I'm really helpful you know what it's for your son's age. It's pretty good okay I'm more upset about the changes they made. Yeah, you know, it's just live action in general sure it's live action I'm not happy with um they cut out a lot of things that I didn't like.
Speaker 2:I heard captain gantu is not even like in the movie, right even reference or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Okay and the directors say they wanted captain more grounded and having that big alien running around just wouldn't do it Interesting. You know this is spoilers, but Lilo does get taken by the CPS at the end.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:But it's given to the neighbor right next door. And what's her name? Nani goes to college.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, and people are furious about that.
Speaker 1:Interesting, I've seen a tiktok someone like how can you just give up your sister like that? I was like first of all she didn't give him up, like it's a trust, like this family, her neighbor's, like a family gotcha I was like it's not like she's giving to a stranger.
Speaker 1:You know like I'm talking about. Like she's 18 and like you know you can tell like they portrayed her as like someone who was very athletic and she had a full ride to college and then their parents died so she had to like stop everything to take care of her sister I was like god forbid she continue with her life yeah and you know she was prepared to take on all that and she could.
Speaker 1:Actually. The whole movie was how she couldn't do that like she couldn't sure, hold on job. It's like the original and people were shitting on her. I was like relax dude.
Speaker 2:I like the movie Like.
Speaker 1:Ohana's not a thing in this movie. I was like shut up.
Speaker 2:If anything.
Speaker 1:It's more of a thing because, like the neighbor's, more like Ohana with them. You know Gotcha. Okay, yeah, there's a lot of complaints. I've seen. You know who Tim Robinson is the oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen his movie with Paul Rudd Friendships yeah, okay, how was that? I laughed so hard in the movie theater. Oh, okay, it's the funniest movie I've seen all year long. Okay, if you like Tim Robinson, he made stuff like I Think you Should Leave on Netflix.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:A couple other sketches. He worked on SNL for a while. It's totally his type of humor, brandon, like not a lot of people were in this theater, but yeah, who those were? We were all laughing almost the entire time. Really, it is so funny. I've been trying to go see it again with my show.
Speaker 2:It's new people as much as I can I'm I'm split on that one. I don't think I'm into the minority on this one. I don't think Robinson is funny but, with Paul Rudd in the movie with that killer mustache. Okay, yeah, sign me up. Sign me up. You know what?
Speaker 1:I gave it a 3.5 out of 5 stars. And the only reason? His humor is not for everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If it was more genuinely loved by every single person, I would give it a 5 out of 5 stars.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because I loved it so much personally. That's why I give it a higher rating. Paul Rudd yeah, he was afraid of like people would like confuse him with his character, with his Anchorman character, because he looks the same. And he plays a weatherman too.
Speaker 2:Oh, does he really? Yeah, that's hilarious yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean them together. Paul Rudd, he was hilarious, but Tim Robinson stole the show.
Speaker 2:He was so funny in this movie with his facial expressions and everything.
Speaker 1:There was another new movie that I've seen recently that I've seen, but I've been watching a lot of shows actually. Oh, yeah, uh, severance. I caught up on that.
Speaker 2:I talked about that on this podcast not, yet I'm a we're both big fan. My wife and I are big fans of um adam scott.
Speaker 1:Adam scott, thank you, he's great, um, and I also just finished the studio with seth rogan on apple tv too. Oh okay, that is great. It, it's phenomenal, it's it's. Have you seen, or at least know of not Community what's?
Speaker 2:one of those.
Speaker 1:Like he co-wrote it Jerry's Seinfeld show with them.
Speaker 2:Oh, larry Burr, Larry David, with Curb your Enthusiasm, it's similar humor to that.
Speaker 1:I feel like, oh, enthusiasm, it's similar humor to that. I feel like, okay, but with a higher production, okay kind of thing. Like you know, seth rogan plays this new studio head who, like studio head, is like he's a head in charge of like universal or warner brothers, you know he takes over one of those, and the whole thing is like him trying to please everybody while trying to also make great movies. Um, and it's hilarious. Okay, just renewed for season two.
Speaker 1:I cannot wait for this there's a ton of celebrity cameos in there, like directors martin, so martin scorsese's in there, wow, um, jeez, louise, I'm gonna kill me for forgetting some of these directors in there. But also like anthony mackie's in there oh nice. Um, you know a few, a few big name celebrities are nice, I like apple scott's in there too.
Speaker 2:Oh, adam scott shows up too.
Speaker 1:I like apple tv plus.
Speaker 2:They're called all with bangers. I think they've got some really good stuff both for, like, adults and also kids. My, my son, watches a couple shows I never knew that.
Speaker 1:Um, they actually I want to say they come out bangers. But they just came out with like a couple flops with um john krasinski's new movie, um fountain of youth I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard nothing but bad things oh okay, um miles teller and anna taylor joy had a movie on apple tv that came out early this year and, um, I haven't seen it either. I heard very minimal things about it and then nothing at all.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's yeah, I like that. Uh, I like their movie ghosted. That's the one with chris evans. It's kind of it's like that's what's her name in there too.
Speaker 1:Um, I can't think of her name right now she she's coming out next week with Ballerina. Yeah, oh yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't like that. Well, because I don't like her, I don't like her.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the big thing. I thought it was fun. It was like a Hallmark movie. But make it spy, you know, is pretty funny. Um, I think they make better tv shows than movies because they have ted lasso too, and oh, ted lasso is amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're coming with the fourth season.
Speaker 2:That's all. Yeah, we'll have to see. I don't know if it's gonna be more about um keely and like the development of the uh, like women's soccer team that they teased at the end of that season, then I think I would be into it.
Speaker 1:That's what jason sudeikis. He went on the new heights podcast and okay he teased that a little bit. It's going to be focused more on the woman's that's awesome sports, which is perfect timing because you got caitlin clark and that rivalry with um alex something oh, yeah, yeah, going on right now too.
Speaker 2:So I think it's perfect timing.
Speaker 1:I hope they've like teased some of that stuff in there too, um, but we're here to talk about it's a karate kid. We're gonna talk about the original karate kid first and then we're gonna go into the new karate kid legends and talk about the franchise a little bit. But, brandy, you're the perfect person to do this because you do study kung fu and karate and stuff like that, right?
Speaker 2:I do. Yeah, I'm a martial artist, been doing martial arts for over 20 years now. I have black belts in four different martial arts black belts. That's impressive, thank you. I'm also with one of the local YMCAs in the area. They have a program called Ninja Zone and I'm a coach for that, teaching kids kind of this combination of parkour and martial arts.
Speaker 2:It's really similar to American Ninja Warrior, that game show but, for kids is a lot of what my job is, I mean as an adult. That sounds fun too. Oh, it's a, it's so fun. I've lost so much weight too, and doing it it's good exercise. It is, it is. And then I do have a. Since the last time I was here, I started a new podcast called kung fu pizza party, where I review martial art movie shows or martial art, movies and shows and other things like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you know, people like some I told somebody about that, actually not too long ago. Because I knew you were coming on the podcast and I was like, how many movies can you review doing that topic? I was like you'd be surprised how many kung fu karate movies there are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot. And you know, sometimes I'm kind of like skirting the lines, a little bit of like it's an action movie but it's got really good fight sequences in it, but like, oh yeah, there's so many movies that you could talk about there. But yeah, actually on the show. I just finished up as we're recording this, I've done all of the movies, all of the karate kid movies leading up to this one.
Speaker 2:I still need to yeah, I still need to do the record my thoughts on the karate kid legends film, but okay, this is a good pre-teaser. I actually have another show that was like hey, do you want to also come on here? Yeah, everyone's like, you're now the Karate Kid guy, so please come talk.
Speaker 1:Speaking of those movies, my girl was just telling me on a couple of movies like Karate Kid movies. We just watched Ip man. Okay, yeah, yeah, have you seen those movies?
Speaker 2:I've seen the first two. We just watched the first one. Yeah, that first one is considered like one of the modern, all-time greats of kung fu movies you know, it's like a live-action anime, if you look a little bit yeah it's kind of ridiculous and silly. But trust me, they get a little bit more ridiculous and silly.
Speaker 1:And the next one he's gonna fight mike tyson mike tyson plays like this, like I can't even remember mike tyson himself, isn't it, or someone's playing mike tyson, no?
Speaker 2:mike tyson is acting in the movie.
Speaker 1:I forget what character he plays, but yeah that's hilarious I gotta watch that now yeah yeah damn, I didn't know mike tyson was like that. That's funny. Mike tyson does a lot of surprising things like you don't he was like that.
Speaker 2:He had that cartoon remember yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mike tyson mysteries or something like that, yeah, yeah so when you watch these karate kid movies, do you like not karate, just karate movies in general like do you get like inspired, like oh shit, I want to try that move.
Speaker 1:Or like now that they're doing it totally wrong.
Speaker 2:Or a little bit of both. Um. There are times where I watch stuff, uh, and I'm like man I would really like to, like I've done a lot of korean martial arts, taekwondo, hopkido, so I would really like to uh, spend some time training in uh kung fu at some point. Um, but with the karate kid movies specifically, the like, oversimplification is that these are all pretty good movies until you get to the final third tournament scene and then the wheels fall off, like it does get very cinematic during those that last little bit Um, have you yourself done tournaments like that? A little bit, yeah, a little bit, here and there I would say the. The tournaments that you see, like in the original trilogy with Ralphalph mafia mafia, ralph machio you can't say his name uh, in the first and third movie is a little bit more traditional to what I have experienced.
Speaker 1:We'll get to it with yeah, I was not happy with that. I was not happy with the upcoming one, but we'll talk about that yeah yeah, um is your son. You're pushing that on your son yet you know well it is funny.
Speaker 2:I mean like if you start training now, it could be like the new bruce lee. He could be the new new bruce lee. He's only three. Uh, you know it a little bit, not like pushing it on him, but like there was one day I was cleaning something out and I found one of my old kick pads that I like used to train with and I was gonna take it to work because we do have.
Speaker 2:We do some like fun kick stuff at ninja zone and I was walking by my son saw it and he instinctively knew what to do with it. He was like punch. I was like here you go. So it's in his room now and then and he brings it out every once in a while.
Speaker 1:You're going to get a call in a couple of years like he's bullying the first graders.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he has started an illegal fight club in the second grade and I take him to. You know he comes with me to work. There's like a daycare he can stay at while I'm on the clock, but I usually take him into my area first and let him kind of like run around, explore, climb around a little bit, so he may turn into a martial artist, he may turn into a gymnast because there's a little bit of that too.
Speaker 1:Do both, you know, be a stuntman when he grows up? That would be sick, actually that would be really tight, you know. Speaking of that, they just added stunt choreography, um I heard about the oscars. Yeah, I heard for the first time ever that that's really exciting, which is something Ryan Gosling really pushed for last year with his movie the stunt man the fall guy, the fall guy yeah. Yeah, that's exciting news. You know, like, have you ever thought about doing that, or could you do something like that? You think I?
Speaker 2:so when I was like in high school that um stunt work, I thought it was really cool. There's this old he's passed away now but there was this guy named judo gene labelle who was a stunt man from like the 50s all the way until like 2010 or something he was like an old man still doing stunt work and he was black belt in judo, was a.
Speaker 2:it had one of the first, earliest mma fights, so he was very inspirational for me. But nowadays I would really like to be the fight choreographer. That's kind of where I'm at now. It'd be really cool to sequence that fight in a movie.
Speaker 1:You know what? I had somebody on this podcast. As a matter of fact, you mentioned this comic behind me. He starred in the short film it's sci-fi. But I this comic behind me, yeah, he started in a short film Like some guy around here, Like it's sci-fi, but I'll let him know.
Speaker 2:Like, hey, if you want a choreography fight, I'll hook you up If Kung Fu Pizza Party gets big enough, if it continues to grow. I have thought about like maybe we could do like a Kickstarter and do like a short film kind of thing. But yeah, let them know, zach braff does that all the time does he really?
Speaker 1:I don't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like half of his movies are are kickstarted like um is that how we're getting the new scrub seasons? I don't know about that he's gonna be in it right yeah, yeah, they just, I don't know if he's helping make it.
Speaker 1:He was in it cool, uh, let's talk about the karate kid franchise for a minute sure this is the sixth movie.
Speaker 1:Can you believe that I know this? Karate kid one, two, three, uh, the 2010 karate kid, the next karate kid and now we're at karate kid legend. It has a spin-off series, cobra kai. That started on youtube, that picked up on netflix, has an animated show in 1989 on nbc that only lasted 13 episodes but that was also more of an origin kind of for mr miyagi interesting, but if it lasts for one season, probably not that interesting. Had a broadway musical uh adaption that just came out in 2022. And he has two video games with the voice actors from the original trilogy reprising their voices. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, this franchise is huge. And to think, like, how much are they milking this?
Speaker 2:how much more do you think we can get?
Speaker 1:from this. I don't know if they're. Have you seen? I haven't seen cobra kai, but after watching these movies I want to get into that I've seen.
Speaker 2:I think I watched the first season like way back.
Speaker 1:I need to actually get all caught up 2015 yeah, yeah, when youtube had a streaming service.
Speaker 2:Yeah, does everybody remember that one?
Speaker 1:it still does um, but netflix picked it up because it was solid, yeah, you guys got something here. Um, the things that I love about these this ralph macchio and william zabtka. William zabtka, dude, they fully embrace his characters. They love this franchise and, like everyone, I love that. They love it. You know, they make it so much more fun versus, like some people who are getting like a role and they're so tired of being known for that one thing, sure they, they embrace it, they like they go.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they go to karate tournaments too and stuff like that I am special guests or something like that.
Speaker 2:I imagine I've seen them. I think they've done c2e2 before.
Speaker 1:I think zapka has at least yeah I want to say they both have actually I don't know about the same time, but yeah, yeah, and some of the people on cobra kai actually yeah, I think so like actors um, I haven't seen them um, but I love how much they love the franchise yeah it's, it's cool it meant actually mr miyagi himself too like yeah he passed away.
Speaker 1:I want to say it was 2012, he's somewhere in there yeah, yeah, yeah, but man cartoon, a broadway musical, two video games. I don't even know what the video can be about. Like it's, like I'm picturing like a mortal kombat kind of style, I think.
Speaker 2:So there was one. One of them came out pretty recently because it's on the switch oh, is it?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's probably. That's probably before this. Then it's probably three video games out there yeah, okay um, you know, the director, john evanson, of the first one, the first three actually, he, he directed rocky and rocky five.
Speaker 2:Oh, love that the same actor.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you know what? The crazy thing? In 2012,. Ralph Macchio, this is before Creed and before Cobra Kai.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He was approached to do a crossover movie with Rocky franchise. Interesting it was going to be Daniel's daughter, daniel Lewis' daughter and Rocky Jr opening up a dojo together.
Speaker 2:Interesting but Ralph was like this plot sucks.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing this, so it was scrapped.
Speaker 2:That doesn't sound. I like the concept of bringing those two universes together.
Speaker 1:That, specifically, does not sound great especially because, like you know, like the first, if you look at it, the first rocky film and the trilogy, it's similar directing styles yeah, it can be the same world you know yeah, yeah, one was like in Philly and you know, yeah, yeah, that would have been sick. You know. Not even nothing crazy, like just the references, like oh, Rocky's also on the news, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would have been sick.
Speaker 1:It was like a newspaper with him in.
Speaker 2:Probably the better decision.
Speaker 1:The better decision. That franchise. They're getting an anime. Do you know about that?
Speaker 2:Are they really? No, I didn't know that Creed's getting an anime. Michael B Jordan's doing it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool. Also, who's getting an anime is the John Wick movies. They're getting a John Wick anime prequel.
Speaker 2:They're really trying with John Wick, aren't they?
Speaker 1:Dude, they had such success with John Wick 4. Four yeah, we got the ballerina, we got the continental show on peacock. Uh, they come with this anime. I want to say they just announced john wick five, if I'm not mistaken and they're supposed to be one with, um, that blind guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, donnie yen's character dude crazy, they're the same thing.
Speaker 1:They're milking these franchises like makes a little bit of money versus sinner. Have you seen sinner?
Speaker 2:oh, you haven't seen it not yet I, I do want to phenomenal, phenomenal movie.
Speaker 1:Ryan Coogler did a great job. He has openly expressed that he does not want to make a franchise out of that, which he easily could, because a lot of people want more Sure. He said he has no interest in doing sequels. He's done with that because he's done Black Panther movies. He's done some other big movie. I'm sorry I can't remember right now. I can't remember right now Creed.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, creed.
Speaker 1:He's done with franchises and you know if he doesn't do another movie like that, respect to him. I have seen a couple of posts saying that there is going to be sequels or spinoffs or something like that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how true they are, because I don't how Ryan's been speaking so openly about not wanting to do unless they're gonna do it without him. It's such the norm anymore to try and launch a whole cinematic universe, multi-platform universe thing that like now we've gotten to the point where like hey, good for him that he just wants to do like his one movie, yeah, move on and he also made history with that movie too, because when he is made with warner brothers, okay, um, he is going to own the rights to the sinners movie in 20 years, which has never been done before, no one's no studio has ever off like willingly gave that, gave that back up, which to me I'm assuming.
Speaker 1:They probably lowballed him then. But in 20 years maybe he will make another movie 20 years yeah, that's the goal, yeah, yeah um fun. Other fun facts daniel larusso was originally going to be daniel weber and johnny lawrence was originally going to be donald donald rice oh, he dodged a bullet donald rice definitely that's bad I'm assuming daniel weber was changed because they hired, uh um ralph macchio, who sure that seems like a white name yeah, it's not white, uh pat marita marita, is that how you say it?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, uh, who plays mr miy was the director's first choice, but at this time his credits were mostly sitcoms like Happy Days, mash, sanford and Son. He also did stand-up comedy, I believe, but the producers turned him down because they thought the audiences wouldn't take him serious enough for the character, and it wasn't until Pat grew out his facial hair and added the accent where they changed his mind. Until pat grew out his facial hair and added the accent where they changed his mind, I never, I, when I think of this character, his actor, pat, I don't think about the other stuff. Well, mostly because I was way before time, sure, but he's always, always gonna be mr miyagi to me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, perfect casting oh, yeah, yeah, yeah he's. And you know what?
Speaker 1:what's great about it is that he is still funny, it's not first yeah, you know he's serious and then he's funny, but like I think when you add the accent like it just adds a bunch of wisdom to his character.
Speaker 2:It does. Yeah, it does, because I've seen I have seen some of his like older stuff before Karate Kid and like yeah, he doesn't. He had to add the accent.
Speaker 1:He just sounds yeah, which if he didn't do it someone else is gonna do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and it's hard to think of this universe without pat marita being mr miami.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah I don't think jackie chan needed to add his accent to like make the character his character, but I think it made helped it a little bit. I don't know um the song you're the best at the end, the front, the montage was originally written for rocky 3, but it was replaced for eye of the tiger and it bounced around a few different movies before it landed on the third act in karate kid that's so interesting.
Speaker 2:I love that kind of like music history. Right, you know, I the tiger man, I forgot I.
Speaker 1:I did rocky. You know there was a couple great. That's so interesting. I love that kind of music history stuff. Right, I did Rocky. There was a couple great facts about that song with that. Okay, last fun fact I got here the extras at the end of the tournament were so caught up in the tournament that they would boo William Zapka even when they weren't filming. And Zapka's mother was in the crowd trying to keep telling people that he's actually really nice in real life.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. I didn't know that. That's really funny.
Speaker 1:And Rolf, the last one, actually the very last one. Rolf named his son Daniel, in real life too.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, that's how much he loves the franchise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he has another movie.
Speaker 2:I know he has another movies. He does have one. I'm struggling to think of what it's called right now, but there's one where he's like a blues guitar player. Yes, I can't think of what that movie is called right now. That one's really good too. It is at first like you're the karate kid do some karate, but as it goes on, like it's. That one is a really good movie.
Speaker 1:I can't think of what it's called, though, now, because he even has to like beat the devil in a guitar blues thing, like yeah, yeah, yeah well if much it just has good genes too, because like he's does not age, he's like paul rudd kind of the way he doesn't age so much.
Speaker 2:His voice still sounds like he hasn't gone through puberty he's.
Speaker 1:Uh, I think he was 22 during the first movie. Okay, mr Miyagi was 51. Okay, doesn't he look way older than 51?.
Speaker 2:Yes, he does.
Speaker 1:Like that's just like, I don't know because his hair, I don't know what he did with it, but like dude, our generation just ages a lot slower than they did back in the day.
Speaker 2:I guess so. Yeah, dude, our generation just ages a lot slower than they did back in the day. I guess so, yeah, yeah, like you just said, paul Rudd, you could also throw Tom Cruise in there. Those men are ageless somehow.
Speaker 1:It's insane to think 22 years old Jackie Chan, on the other hand he was looking old in this movie. Dude. I think he looked older in the Karate Kid movie in the 2010.
Speaker 2:Karate movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, the 2010 movie I think he looked older then versus now, really, in this movie he looked semi-decent, versus if you're seeing an interview with him or him on the street or something like that. I think he looks a lot older in real life. It's a lot of movie makeup though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:But you know, I read Jackie Chan sold out his own sons in this movie.
Speaker 2:I think he did most.
Speaker 1:He did do an interview where he said like yeah, I'm starting to have to use some stunt men here and there, but like he's in his 70s, like that was gonna be one of my fat, like things are gonna bring up later yeah, but I can talk about now. There is a scene with him and ralph macchio. I totally talk about the use. Some people I yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like because he such close-ups to the fight and everything like that they're obviously not showing their face. They're going out of their way to show.
Speaker 2:It's just like the arms yeah.
Speaker 1:It was just on people, but let's go into the Karate.
Speaker 2:Kid. It came out in 1984.
Speaker 1:I freaking love this movie.
Speaker 2:It's iconic.
Speaker 1:It's iconic and I really wanted to go through and watch all three of them again, but I didn't want to like over claw my thoughts about the first one. Sure, sure, sure, but 1984's came out. It's about recently relocated to new jersey to la, daniel becomes the target of a gang of a cobra kai dojo students. When mr miyagi saves him from the expert karate skills, daniel convinces him to teach him to defend himself and bullies put the bullies in their place. Directed by john g avidson and written by robert mark car came in. Uh believe, let me see real quick. I have some facts.
Speaker 1:90 on raw tomatoes budget of eight million dollars gross over 300 million dollars oh my gosh pat morita was nominated for best supporting actor from this movie, which I believe was the only type of Oscar won. They got Not even one. It was just nominated.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ralph was 22. Pat was 52. Okay, the idea of this movie came from producer Jerry Weintraub when watching the news in 1983 about a Scronatine bully who became a martial artist. Pretty much the exact same movie, and I wonder if they ever reached back to that guy or looked up that guy like hey like we'll give you some money for this.
Speaker 1:Another fun fact before we get into the movie the opening scenes where the kids are chasing the car down the street waving goodbye to johnny and his mom. Um, those are just kids from the neighborhood. They were all hanging around set interviewing and interfering with the shoot and the director offered to put them in the movie if they leave the cast alone so that's a trade-off, yeah trade-off and those kids are probably still out there somewhere. I wonder, like who's someone, how?
Speaker 1:you know, I was in that movie, you know I would like to be an extra in a film that would be my life goal like I don't even care if I get a speaking line, if I could just point like an especially mcu movie oh, yeah, yeah if I'm just running from something I would fucking love that.
Speaker 2:That's me in the crowd behind Batman over there.
Speaker 1:Dude, I don't know, if you remember in 2016, or ahead of in 2015, at the time they were doing open casting calls for Civil War. Okay, just college students, yeah yeah, I'm assuming for that MIT scene.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, it was dark. You couldn't even see any of the kids, anyway, I submitted like oh yeah yeah, like you gotta like take pictures and stuff like that I wanted to go back.
Speaker 2:I think we were in high school by this point when, uh, they were shooting public enemies up here in crown point. Yeah, I, and johnny depp was on set for that, for some of those scenes. I remember that was a pretty big thing.
Speaker 1:He came up here that like for those you know, like that's where they shot, that that's about like 15 minutes away from here, and uh, he did come on set. It was a big thing. A lot of the extras you see on there are just people who live around the area too. All it is is like they're driving a car and he's driving by. A bunch of people like yeah cheering for him, which is probably the real life cheering for johnny dot yeah uh, pat morito designed the bonsai logo that was sewn into daniel's g do you have your own g?
Speaker 2:anything cool on there uh, I do so, my old one from taekwondo. It does have a couple different patches on it. Um, most of the geese I've worn over the years are just solid black okay, yeah damn, you need something cool on there. I do need something cool on there, you just put your own podcast logo on there yeah, it might do that.
Speaker 1:That might be fun um in the studio one. This is a couple facts about this movie before we get into it the studio wanted the drunk miyagi scene dropped from this, drop from the movie, but the director fought for it and kept it in, and he felt that was the scene that got pat morita nominated for an oscar that was a good call dude that movie.
Speaker 1:I read that before I watched that scene. It added so it grounded the character so much. Oh yeah, because before, like you used to, yeah, this is just some old man who was trying to get some work done around his house, but like no, like he genuinely cares, he has a heart. You know it's crazy. William zapka revealed that during the rehearsals, martin coved, his, his teacher or sensei, uh, delivered, sweep the leg line in a calm manner. But when they filmed it he said in such a cold voice that when everyone was shocked, everyone, including zapka, which whose expression was on screen for the first time, hearing it oh, interesting okay yeah, he did like.
Speaker 1:I read that and I watched that scene again and it does add a lot to that scene. And last fact I got for this one the night yellow 1984 super deluxe that daniel wax and it was given to ralph by the producer in real life and he still owns it. William zapka still owns the red leather jacket too oh cool I like that you know.
Speaker 1:They say like you never know when a movie is going to be like a big hit I'm yeah, dude, the way they talk about it and the way like they have all these gifts from there, I think they knew they had a hit from the get-go I don't know if they knew they had a 84 to 2025 what is that?
Speaker 2:41 years? I don't know if they knew they had a 40 plus year franchise on their hands, but yeah, this seems like they had some inkling of we got something special here.
Speaker 1:Dude, this franchise is everything I mean. Let me go through the movie now. They live in New Jersey. Starting off in the beginning of the movie, they moved to California because the mom got a new job with her computers. That's all this computer job. This is the conspiracy theory that, dude, the mom doesn't have a job like she, she. They moved to new york as a computer job. But then there's a scene where she's like she gets a job as a waitress manager yep, because they good benefits. I was like she did not have a job moving out, she had her own movie going on like we're probably getting away from abusive ex or of X or something like that, Something.
Speaker 2:yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:And then you know, ralph of course hates it. You know what?
Speaker 2:kid likes leaving their family.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she tries to. At least you can get away from the winners, but I like the winners, no, you don't I hate the winners.
Speaker 2:I cannot.
Speaker 1:I hate the winners, so it ends up going. The maintenance is actually mr miyagi himself, which is dude. I watched this and then I think I watched uh the 2010 karate movie.
Speaker 2:It's almost exactly the same, except they moved to china yes, yeah, yeah, the setup between the two is pretty similar. Those two the karate kid and then the 2010 one have the most similarities of the three reboots yeah yeah, yeah um, mr miyagi, just like this, not cranky or anything, he just does his own thing.
Speaker 1:He has like no words in the world jealous of that. You know living his own life being a maintenance man, uh, who probably lives there for free. Well, he doesn't live there, I guess taking care of his bonsai trees yeah, so anyways, they go there moves.
Speaker 1:He makes friends with mr miyagi. He gets bullied at this new school who starts school like the same day they move there. I was like that's kind of crazy starts school, gets picked on, for I don't know what you picked on, just for being the new kid, basically new kid and hitting on uh ali ali, who you know, the actress who played ali uh, elizabeth shu. She was was at Harvard during this movie. She had to put her studies on hold to do this movie.
Speaker 1:So she's a smart cookie. Anyways, makes friends with Ali super fast. Then William's character. What's his name? Johnny Lawrence, johnny Lawrence, thank you. Johnny gets wind of this. He's like nah, you ain't gonna take my girl. And it just so happens to be that he's also an expert in karate. Of course, his Cobra, kai dojo, is taught by this guy like this really ruthless teacher. Sensei who's like no, there's no mercy. You're stronger and everyone else is beneath you I was like, first of all, in real life.
Speaker 1:If you're doing karate, you probably get picked out in school for doing karate. So I mean you're, if anything, you're fighting off other bullies. Um, cobra kai, you know, at the end of the movie he kind of has a self-realization will. Uh, johnny, at the end I was like oh, maybe I am a dick. It's kind of wild and I'm sure they address this in cobra kai show like why would you continue that dojo and not?
Speaker 1:yeah you know, keep that attached unless, like his whole goal is like to reinvent cobra kai, I guess well, I think what they?
Speaker 2:they retcon that a little bit in cobra kai um, because it what they show in the original movie is like or excuse me, johnny walks up with the trophy and he's like hey, daniel, you're not that bad of a guy, and then the movie ends Right away these movies just end. Yeah, but this is supposed to be what they retcon is Daniel being an unreliable narrator. And it opens with William Zabka being on the mat, still as a student, just like furious that he lost the tournament.
Speaker 1:so they do they do shit.
Speaker 2:They do like uh switch some things around there. But yeah, the the ending of these movies is also something they were like.
Speaker 1:They even like poke fun at that in Family Guy. I don't know if you've ever seen that episode.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:They win and Johnny goes. You know what? You're not that bad of a kid, johnny. And Johnny goes fuck you, you just tried to kill me Right.
Speaker 2:Several times in this movie too, they tried to kill him.
Speaker 1:I was going to bring that up. One of the jump him and like his bikes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is there a goal to kill this kid? That's exactly so. When I did this movie for kung fu pizza party, my wife watched it with me and reviewed it because she had never seen it, and she we got to that scene when they run them off the road and same thing she's like are they trying to like manslaughter here? What are we doing?
Speaker 1:here. It's insane dude. And then this girl was like oh don't mind them, they're just teasing. I was like shut up no, they're not yeah, I mean there's a whole good montage scene with him and his girl um ally, like the whole date sequence that was pretty sure, you know and they had like the rivalry, where like um, where uh geez louise dan daniel sees him and um johnny, like in the dance floor like it looks like they're kissing you know it sets up for rivalry very well.
Speaker 1:A little bit, I wish they would almost, but you said this is from daniel's narrative yeah, okay, so I almost like I wish they like gave johnny like a little softer background, like oh, he's a dick because his parents are drunks, or something like that you, you know, okay, sure. But, like you said, this is the end of the narrative. We don't know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's true, I think this one of all of the movies does do the best job of establishing Cobra, establishing the antagonist, as like credible threats yeah, like Cobra Kai. Johnny threats yeah, like Cobra Kai. Johnny Lawrence, john Kreese all of them just feel so present and so like dangerous throughout this move, throughout this movie. In other ones it's like, especially like Karate Kid part three. Terry Silver is such a he's a bad guy but he is such a mustache twirling cartoon villain that it kills it. The jackie chan 2010 karate kid.
Speaker 1:Like the bad guys are almost not even in the movie, like they're barely a part of the story yeah, I agree with that because, like the 2010 one, that was mostly about like him, just not fitting into china yeah, that movie was about making jayden smith a star.
Speaker 2:That was the goal of that movie.
Speaker 1:That is very true because that was also very random, like why he moved to china in the first place yes, like I got a good job here that's quite the move, yeah yeah, it's the same exact thing in the next next movie we're talking about, but reversed. Anyways, let's go back to this movie. Like you know, the training scenes were iconic and this movie.
Speaker 1:It still gets referenced to this day too. You know, wax on wax off paint, the brush up and down, side to side, dude, I guarantee you I wish there were stats. I'm sure there are stats out there, like how much karate moved up after this movie was released oh, yeah, advance. And how many techniques were practiced in there too, like people in their backyard just painting and shit. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever tried old school techniques like that?
Speaker 2:uh, I mean, wax on, wax off is probably the most like oh yeah, that's a, that's a block that everybody learns. Yeah, that's probably the most easily transferable one of all of them. But yeah you, you are correct. The the karate took off in the 80s.
Speaker 1:Part of it was the movie, part of it was Chuck Norris, part of it was the Speaking of which I think the referee at the end was a student of Chuck Norris in real life. I think so, yeah, yeah, I read that.
Speaker 2:Even the tournament karate scene for adults was very popular in the 80s, for like adults was very popular in the 80s, so it like there were schools that were marketing themselves as karate that were not teaching karate it was like kung fu or something yeah, well, that's what it is with cobra kai.
Speaker 2:Cobra kai is actually teaching a korean martial art, tong sudo. But there were there were schools in real life as well that their dojos were teaching Korean karate or Chinese karate, things like that I remember me and my brother did karate when we were in elementary school.
Speaker 1:Did not care for it All. I remember doing was just throwing punches, Like you know, standing in line and throwing punches.
Speaker 2:That's all we ever learned, I think. I think I moved up to the yellow belt, and that was about it. You just learned how to punch. Well, good for you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, belt, and that's about it. You just learned how to punch. Well, good for you. Yeah, yeah it was like it's one thing to do karate against all the people doing karate. Do you think karate works in real life?
Speaker 2:fights like that, like so karate is such a so karate is more of an umbrella term for several different martial arts that come from japan. There is one style called Kyokushin that does translate very well. It's very aggressive, especially if you're thinking like maybe not necessarily self-defense, but if you're thinking like MMA, like UFC kind of stuff. That one does translate really well to that kind of environment. Traditional martial arts like karate, kung fu, taekwondo. They look really cool but you do have to like change some things in order to make it work in the modern era, because they're trying to honor the past where combat was very different.
Speaker 2:You were fighting people riding horses and wearing armor, not yeah unless you're like in canada, fighting mounties, you're not going to imagine they get like control those moves up there. It'll be over with oh, it's over, it'll be over. We can't handle that.
Speaker 1:It's a random, like going off topic. I would just watch the wild robot for the first time ever. Okay, fucking amazing I've heard it's like it took me so long to watch it and I'm mad I didn't watch the theaters. It's on peacock right now or on netflix netflix yeah yeah, you gotta watch it tonight and another going. You mentioned mma. Um, the rocks coming out with an mma movie. Yeah, the smashing machine, dude, that looks so good, I'm not even a big rock fan anymore, I didn't even recognize him at first.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, right. I think that's why I like it he's coming out with another a24 movie too, because this one's doing so well already a24 is really starting to gravitate towards this combat stuff, because they did the iron claw, they did queen of the ring, they got the smashing machine, so they're sweeney's coming to boxing movie soon too oh, really okay if it hasn't came out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are doing something like that which I love biopics I love oh same so I'm not gonna complain about that I mean we're both of the same age where they're.
Speaker 2:In the early 2000s, disney was pumping out a ton of sports based on a true story film like the gridiron um miracle, uh, full corp or no, glory, glory road. That was the one, that was basketball. Yeah, yeah, the keanu.
Speaker 1:Reason one with a baseball one oh yeah yeah, you know, yeah, there's a million. Yeah, now we're getting like more grittier, like boxing mma, yeah, stuff like that which we always had, boxing, I think, though, but yeah, yeah, interesting, interesting. Going back to karatekin, you know the training scene was iconic, it was great. I like the beach scene.
Speaker 2:You know where, daniel, kind of learns that swan technique crane kick on his own.
Speaker 1:I thought I wish I would see mr miyagi's reaction a little bit bigger. He's like when did he learn?
Speaker 2:When did he do that?
Speaker 1:But that was good. And then how he used it at the end. Like man, this guy was getting the shit kicked out of him Like dirty fighting. Daniel still got up, which is the same thing in Karate Kid 2010. I hate comparing it to that one, because the Karate Kid did it first and they were copying them. But you know, you know that fight scene was great, even like the kid who hurt him. I can't remember his name and that's Cardamon.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He didn't want to hurt him. He apologized so much yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I like that. There's like one kid in Cobra Kai during the Johnny Lawrence fight who's like, yeah, put him in a body bag. That guy was hella annoying, hell, annoying but uh like I do like it how it's kind of teased here and they do a little bit more in the next movie of like those guys realizing, oh, our instructor is a horrible person yeah, like what the fuck is that guy going through that?
Speaker 1:he hates everybody, right. So I mean, you know it's, it's this movie. If it was filmed today for the first time ever, there's no other it would have been filmed way more dramatic, like close up to the face and like stuff like that, like really emphasizes the kick to the art, like fucking ribs, like that would make it seem like it hurt more versus like it was like a wide screenshot the entire time, which, for the time, that's all we had really they didn't really have other techniques besides, like that, stuff, like that.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I think with a new film, now they have those advances that they can do, shoot it a lot differently, like so many different options. But you don't get movies like that anymore in the eighties, like that, like the Rocky movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's timeless.
Speaker 1:I like it still I wish they can still see something like that yeah.
Speaker 2:And you see it a lot in the kung fu movies as well just kind of that wide screen shot again. For like 90s kids it's like when you're playing mortal kombat or street fighter. Just like there they are and now they're gonna go. And I actually prefer it that way because you can actually yeah, see the combat and it's almost like realistic too.
Speaker 1:That's how we'll be watching in real life yeah, yeah, yeah versus. I don't know what his facial expressions are like like if he zoomed in super close, you know. I mean nowadays movies are just filmed like almost algorithm, algorithm, mythic okay word, you know like over the shoulder look, and that cuts it up yeah, you know it's, it's the best.
Speaker 2:It's really just to hide the stuntman. Yeah it, it probably looks great, but they care more about hiding the stuntmen yeah, which can be done.
Speaker 1:Great, there was a cut. There was a scene where mr miyagi he was up on like doing the crane thing, like that totally wasn't, mr miyagi. Yeah, uh, at the end, like you know, he wins is a good scene but, like you said, it cuts. This movie's like a little over two hours long, which it needed to be done and over with. Yes, but I, but I was like it's just, that's it, that's it Wink the end, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he stopped being bullied afterwards. I don't know this, and that you don't really find out anything until the next movie. How about Mr Miyagi giving him the car at such a young age too? That was cool, I think something like that. And you pick, pick whichever car you want yeah, that's insane. That's just just take one nice ass cars. Yeah, you know, I did cry. I cried, but I too like got emotional when he was talking about his dead wife and kid that's a hard scene yeah yeah, especially.
Speaker 2:You know, up until that point this movie is basically your standard 80s teen coming ofof-age film, which there are a lot of in the 80s and most of them are iconic, you know. But that scene adds so much emotional weight to this movie that other movies, even like 16 Candles and Back to the Future and Ferris Bueller's Day Off, do not have.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm glad you said Ferris Buellerris, bueller's. That's exactly what I was thinking of okay yeah uh, but what'd you give the original karate kid?
Speaker 2:one out of ten the original one out of ten. I think this is the best one. So how about we just out of the franchise? I think, this is the best one, so I'm just gonna make it simple and give it a 10 within within the franchise as a movie itself, probably closer to like a seven, but I'll give it eight. Okay, I'll give it a 10 within, within the franchise as a movie itself probably closer to like a seven.
Speaker 1:But I'll give it eight. Okay, I'll give it eight. Yeah, you know, there's not that much more I would improve on. But like other than like technical advances, like sure like different kind of shots and stuff like that a little bit more of a unending yeah, but like the chemistry between everybody is phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like the, the soundtrack was pretty dope. The fighting, I mean they gave us stakes and you know like, not stakes like where I'm going to threaten you, kind of thing, Like no, they were literally beating the shit out of this kid. Oh yeah, you know. So like if he didn't win, they were going to be on his ass, yeah, so I mean, yeah, it's pretty interesting. 8 out of 10 for me. Okay, now we're going to fast forward. What is it Like 40 years?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah 40 years ago, 41 years 41 years to the newest one, karate Kid Legends. Now it was heavily marketed that this was not going to be a continuation. It was going to be like a reboot, almost Dude it continues Like not only the original Karate Kid, the Jackie Chan one too. He's playing the same character as he did in 2010. They just don't reference like Jane Smith's character at all or anything like that, because why would they? Didn't he move at the end? Or something like that. I don't know what he did Something.
Speaker 2:Something.
Speaker 1:But he ended up opening up his own school, which is how the movie opens, before we get deep into the movie. This movie is about after kung fu prodigy lee fong relocates in new york city. He attracts an unwanted attention from local karate champion and embarks on a journey to enter ultimate karate competition to help, with the help of mr han and daniel larusso. Dude, with that description alone it skips like one of the biggest plot points of the whole movie, which is the pizza shop yeah, you know, yes, it does, which which also was, like, really the main focus of this movie for the first 45 is not that long of a movie yeah, this one's an hour 34, perfect first 50 movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 50 movies is about the pizza shop. Yeah, the last 45 minutes, like you don't really doesn't matter about that moving. Dude, they announced this movie in 2023, in November, that they're open casting to anybody. You just had to know different languages and be Asian. Basically, I thought they filmed this movie super fast, the fact that it came out right and they just announced that they're doing casting calls at the end of 2023. Great, which you know. They probably had everything lined up already.
Speaker 2:They just needed an actor. Yeah, A big thing. This movie got delayed a couple times. It is because they wanted it to come out after cobra kai wrapped. Yeah, and cobra kai had like two finales. Basically it, the bulk of the final season was released, but the last episode netflix released like a month later in an actual like cinematic kind of way.
Speaker 1:That netflix normally doesn't do with their shows and it's because, I think, even though it takes place a couple of months after the Cobra Kai finale, I think in their world it's like three years after the movie. I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do you feel about the kid Lee Fong who plays by Ben Wong?
Speaker 2:I think he did really well. I thought by ben wong. I think he did really well. I thought he was cool.
Speaker 1:I think he did really well, let me see his acting credits, if he has any. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know what his acting credits are, but I think he did very well from for himself. Um, him and the girl mia I don't know the actress's name. I thought they had a lot of good chemistry. Um, he held his own really well. Uh, with all the fighting stuff, there's even the one fight scene. That's like in the alley when he saves the, the dad. That's my favorite scene of the whole movie. That's the fighting scene. That's my favorite fighting scene and they are they're trying to in that scene make him look like jackie chan. It is funny. Yeah, he gets hurt. It's all the stuff you get from a tradition like an old school, 90s jackie chan fight sequence, if you think about it, jackie chan movies.
Speaker 1:All of his fighting has always been self-defense fighting, never aggressive or anything like that, which exactly what you said. He's kind of mimicking that he was. I guess he was one through the first punch, but he was also defending somebody too. Yes, yeah, um, speaking of acting credits, okay, um, he only has two.
Speaker 1:Okay, one, he was a mean girls that came out last year oh really, I don't remember that at all uh, and he's gonna be coming out in the new hunger games next year oh, okay, is it for the uh sunrise on the reaping?
Speaker 2:yes, is that it okay?
Speaker 1:yes, he's a good. I would like to see him more. He could definitely be the new Bruce Lee if he wanted to. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Jackie Chan.
Speaker 1:I don't see how they won't do more Karate Kid movies with him. Dude, that's what I'm talking about. They're going to milk this thing. Granted, this plot was very, very exactly the same as the original Karate Kid, just with the pizza thing added to it. You know, original karate kid, just with the pizza thing added to it. Um, you know, kid moves to new town. He likes a girl, ends up being that girl like this dick who knows karate?
Speaker 2:and uh, why do so many dicks know karate? Yeah, yeah so yeah.
Speaker 1:So then he gets challenged to this do this tournament in order, like to like, get him off their backs, and also he wants the girl back. It's the exact same. They do try mixing it up a little bit by adding this pizza shop, and we'll get into what that means. But, the best description I saw about this movie. The review I saw about this movie is that this movie is very, very safe. They didn't take any risk or anything like that. If you slapped a Nickelodeon sticker on this movie, I would have bought it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know they do change some of the having rewatched all of these pretty recently. They do keep with some of the tropes. There are some tropes that they do change. It's one of those like I know how this is supposed to be, but you changed it. They nerfed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they nerfed it. Like we just said, he got the shit bit out of him in the first one. This one he gets like when he does like that flying kick, he gets one kick to the I don't even know the face or the stomach. He's down. He's like that's the whole fight. I was like no, like I don't know, they nerfed it. They nerf a lot of things anymore. But um, let's go from the beginning. You know, mr han opens up his own karate school, which he ends up like his grandson is a student who's one of the best there. If I'm not mistaken, his mom gets a new job. I don't know what they say she does hospital.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a nurse, they always call her nurse like teasing.
Speaker 1:But yeah, she does, she's a big doctor. She moves to new york. The only thing I didn't like about this they moved to new york and instantly there's like no cultural shock for this kid. He he's like he goes, like okay, I'm gonna go next door, they move in. They just move in, I'm gonna get a pizza next door. I was like I don't think someone who moved just from china would do that, like right away.
Speaker 2:He. That is one of the things that they change of usually. You know, with ralph macchio and with, um uh, jaden smith, there is this moment of I hate it here, I want to go back home. Never once, like initially. When she tells him we're moving to new york, she's like. He's like seriously, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, never comes back up well, maybe because, like, he meets his girl within the first five hours of being there lucky him yeah, you know like he also speaks perfect english for moving straight from china I love how any little they go out of their way in this movie, that any little thing that you can go. I think that's a plot hole they're like here's a quick line that explains it all it was.
Speaker 1:They said that he learned english because he's he studied in hong kong, where they had an american school, yep, which I was still feel like you would still have an accent or something like that. You know he spoke perfect english, uh, which makes me think, I don't know, is his chinese not that good? Your nander not that good maybe so that, um you know, he meets this pizza and I hated the girl's dad.
Speaker 1:I hated the initial introduction is awful, this guy it's like someone who, literally, who moved from china, who never met someone who's from america, like they just look at movies, like this is a typical new yorker yeah, with his accent. And like, hey, you want deep discusion, go to go to jersey. Yeah, I hated that. I. Then you know his old backstory, the boxing, which I thought that was interesting. You know, like that, like adding boxing to this world, you know, we never seen anything like that.
Speaker 2:I loved that part um.
Speaker 1:You know this guy. He gets in trouble some loan sharks for his pizza shop um loan sharks who also own that rival karate dojo, by the way what are the?
Speaker 2:chances. What are the chances of that?
Speaker 1:yeah, so he ended up uh, he owns all his money to them and they come like I don't think I'm collecting or what their plan is to come beat the shit out of them so he can't work and get the money back like what's your goal here?
Speaker 1:you know, yeah right so they, they go beat the shit out a couple times. And then he also finds out like, oh, there's this boxing match. I haven't boxed in years. But like, if you help me train, I can win back this money and pay off everybody. I paid for college, he said I paid a little bit for my pocket, you know. So, long story short, he does help him train. You know I'm skipping over a lot of plot details, but we're crushed for time. But you know he helps him train and it's interesting, you know, like at the same time, like I would thought, like is is this, is this the movie? Like is, are we going to? Is the? Is the dad the karate?
Speaker 2:kid in this movie. You know Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Um, he has a boxing which and we also learned a sad, dark story about the karate kid, uh, lee's brother. Yeah, that was the darkest thing about the whole movie and I loved it. But, like even you know, this is spoiler alert. But his brother was big in a karate too. He's not car. No, I see you saying karate it's kung fu.
Speaker 1:They're in the kung fu and that's one of the plot details. He has to learn karate, kung fu and um. His brother does a tournament. He ends up winning, but the loser, that one, gets pissed and he meets him outside, stabs him. He dies yeah that's what this is like, nickelodeon part, like you, just his eyes are closing. He's dying you just got stabbed like you're not breathing for your like fighting for your last breath or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Like, give me something more dramatic here's my thing, though it is very nickelodeon. This is almost a family movie, but oh, this is the first movie of the whole franchise rated pg-13. Rated pg-13 I think this movie does do a good job of trying to appeal to the younger audience just like all the others, all the other one, all the other karate kid films are set within their decade pretty firmly yeah you know, like the, the ralph macchio, those are very 80s movies.
Speaker 2:The one in the 90s, hilary Swank, her outfit is so 90s it's popular again. That's what her wardrobe is in that one and even like Jaden Smith's movie. It might be hard because of the cultural difference being in China, but the soundtrack is very 20 times.
Speaker 1:But I mean, they had the Dance, dance Revolution and that one it was very popular at that time. This one. Nothing specific other than the fact that Kung Fu or something like that, I don't know Karate might be coming back after this movie.
Speaker 2:Who knows?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you might get more busy after this, right? So he ends up having a dad. The dad ends up like same thing, kind of like kill this guy in the ring, the other guy tells to kill his dad, takes a mile. He does end up getting out of the hospital because he gets hurt really bad, and there's like this kid has like PTSD Lee. That's one of the things he has to fight through the whole time. And then Jackie Chan comes into town. He's like out of this movie for like a good half this movie. He comes into town, like to New York, and there's a scene where he sneaks into the apartment like why, like, was that part of your training?
Speaker 2:Like back in there.
Speaker 1:It was like to always be prepared, like what. So, anyways, he ends up talking to him. They go visit the dad in the hospital.
Speaker 1:He's like you know what we're going to help you, I'm going to sign him up for this tournament and go up to the toughest guys in New York fighting, risking his life and not mine, to win this money for you. Someone he met like four months ago. Not even I was like that's. I don't know how realistic that is, but whatever I was like, this is like a totally different character from the also the Jackie Chan, like a.
Speaker 2:Jaden Smith movie it is. That is another big thing that has changed. He's the Jaden Smith Jackie, the Mr Han in that one is More like Miyagi Very serious. It is not the typical Jackie Chan character. This one is the more typical kind of jovial, kind of joking around, fooling around a bit Jackie Chan.
Speaker 1:It's almost like his, not the pacifier. What's his other movie? Miss the nanny or something like that.
Speaker 2:the babysitter the spy next door.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's kind of like that, jackie chan, yeah, yeah, yeah um, which you know, at his old age he's more about having fun. I feel like. So I think he did. They did want offer him to go training for this movie, but he's like I've been training for the 64 years of my life.
Speaker 2:I'm good, I'm good like I don't need training. Also, in context of 2010, jackie chan was moving more towards serious films there for a little bit yeah, one of his movies. Mr or um little big soldier is like a very serious, very uh old school like 80s jackie chan film where he is very serious, not joking around whole movies in mandarin, the whole thing this is also when will smith had more weight to his name too, and he probably had his thumb on jackie chan's people, you know a little bit so that, um, anyways, going back to the movie, he's like, yeah, we'll train for this tournament and this is where he goes recruit recruits daniel, which in the trailers he was heavily marketed in the movie.
Speaker 2:He was literally in there for like 40 minutes.
Speaker 1:The last 40 minutes of that he drives to California or flies to California.
Speaker 2:He lives in Mr Miyagi's house. I love that detail. That is cool. I love that too. That was sick.
Speaker 1:I was excited when I I was seeing him with though it's like that's his house and everything yeah, the cars and everything still too you got all the cars in the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so then, uh, I'm sure they touched on. I don't know, they didn't show like he was living there or something yeah but I was excited to see that. So he ends up finding new york to help him out, which is cool, like okay. But the difference is like we got to teach him a wholly, totally different fighting style within a week, like kung fu to karate, which you know, he said like no, they didn't.
Speaker 2:They didn't have to do that, by the way.
Speaker 1:Dude, they made that. They tried to make that a plot point. That's a plot point. Give me a longer span. Make that a good half of the movie.
Speaker 2:So like I said, this is where the movie falls off the rails a little bit. For me, this is where the wheels come off. I really like the pizza shop stuff, the boxing, all of it. I think it's a really good addition. But they spend so much time with that part that then, when you get to the part where Jackie Chan and Ralph Macchio are both in it and we're getting to the tournament, and Ralph Macchio are both in it and we're getting to the tournament, the entire final third of this film is just set pieces. It's almost like one big montage as opposed to actual scenes. You know what I mean, and so I did get halfway through this movie before I was like Ralph Macchio's gonna barely be in this, isn't he? Now, when he does show up, we do get a lot of him.
Speaker 1:It was cool. I liked him in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yes, we get a lot of him, a lot of him and Jackie Chan interacting. That was cool, which thank you for that. I'm glad they did not skimp out on that part.
Speaker 1:Like the scene where they're like comparison styles and they're being the shit out of the league.
Speaker 2:That was funny. You know this is assault in Brooklyn, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, that was fun to see, like those different styles. And you know, man, I would have loved to be in a fly on the wall, just been them filming it, because I'm sure they were geeking out. I imagine yeah, dude Ralph is. So he's such the man dude, even like so many years later. Yeah, so then, uh, you know, there was one other thing I wanted to be.
Speaker 1:Oh, that fighting scene like where they're training to do the counter-attack for the flying kick uh-huh they go to a subway and you have to dunk underneath this bar, like that bar, like you, you pass through to go into the subway. I was like they could have just put a bar at the house like yeah, like there could have been another way to do this they did just try to incorporate the new york thing, which they did heavily at the end of the tournament.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think we're there by now. We can talk about that. The New York. There is a whole like love story like that we didn't even touch on oh yes. That was kind of like just very the same as the first one, so like we didn't have to care about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um the tournament. It was like it's so different, like the flyer has a QR code you know right after watching it. It was funny. Um, the tournament, it was this big thing that all these people from New York or something like that dude it's in a basketball court, random, not even in a park and in the city, it's just like between houses.
Speaker 2:So here's my thing. I've never done a tournament in a big city, yeah, okay, so I don't know what they do in big cities. That's not how you do a tournament. Oh, I can almost guarantee you're not having the final match on a top of a skyscraper where it's windy as hell.
Speaker 1:Like you're not gonna be doing that, it almost felt illegal, like what they were it was like a street fight yeah, and there's maybe like 30 people in the first one. Yeah, the first fight, 30 people just grab like a crowd like and they're all cheering and stuff like that. I was like you probably don't even know these kids.
Speaker 2:Also, what was with the names of some of these? I didn't random there was one guy his name was like buddha smith. Another guy was like like zen toro or something. It's like all of a sudden there was like mortal kombat characters in this movie that's just a new yorker talking about this point, other names.
Speaker 1:It's just new yorker, like kind of like spider-man, like the amazing human spider, you know, yeah, yeah, uh, you do like every like. They're like different days for the different tournaments and they're all different new York locations, like a basketball court, like Central Park or something like that. It's almost, like I said, illegal. You just show up random spots and they're there cheering on a monster like that, and at the finale they said it was a skyscraper which looked cool cinematically.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I don't even think they're on a real skyscraper.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it was green screen I was assume so again it's going to be so windy up there, crazy, and there's helicopters flying around too. Yeah, you can hear that also. How do they have fifty thousand dollars for a grand prize?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, yeah, probably because they saved it from the location like aren't like, even the first one is held in a gymnasium, at least.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah also what you see in the first one of the like you score a point, okay, back to your spot fight. Yeah, that's how tournament sparring works yeah what they do here of like you just keep going and you score your points as you go. That's not how that works. Also, I have never been in one where the you're trying to score eight points it's usually a random number, yeah it's usually five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even like in jayden smith's movie, it's like two points. But I don't know. I don't know how they work in china so maybe. Maybe that's like a like a beijing kung fu thing, but like yeah there was but at the same time it's like this is the part in every karate kid movie yeah where you just kind of have to accept it for what it is.
Speaker 1:It just gets really cinematic at the end yeah, I think the fighting in this finale fight was a little bit better than the original one because they kept going at it, like you said, like yeah, yeah, I mean that's why they did it yeah, yeah but yeah, and I liked how they switched it off from the crane kick like how they did in jaden.
Speaker 1:They did that in jaden right, they did this little flying kick, which is very cool, and they entitled the origin from it. Instead of learning it from mr han, he learned it from his brother. I thought that was very cool that was different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was different.
Speaker 1:That was a good change and that was a good like kick and how you learn how to counter it. You know that was very cool.
Speaker 2:It's very good, I did like how. As you're saying that, I did like how. The technique. That one wasn't the big flashy move like it is in all the movies, it was this simple counter. Yeah, it wasn't some big like over the top parkour kick like he's doing tricking kick like he's doing here.
Speaker 1:It was this very little boop that he does afterwards and then like at the end he well, the kid does get mad and like try to like attack him and he like counters him and he's almost like about to punch a shot of him. It's like keeps his cool. Like I don't think he needed that part.
Speaker 2:Like I don't there was a really good easter egg. They could have done there what's that?
Speaker 2:so in the second one and in the next Karate Kid, mr Miyagi both times, and Daniel in the second Karate Kid, they have their opponent down like that and they pull back and it looks like they're gonna like take him out and then he squeezes their nose like boop kind of thing. It was right there. They could have done that. It was right because there's not too many easter eggs in this movie. Uh, daniel does say sweep the leg at one point very quickly.
Speaker 1:I thought they were gonna say that line in this one too. They never did they.
Speaker 2:He does say it quickly at one point. I think it's when they're doing the subway scene and he does like his joke. Yeah, yeah like as a joke, but I was like you actually have him on the ground standing over him. You missed it could have been right there.
Speaker 1:I also would have liked, at one point the movie opens up with like uh, something seen original yeah scenes. I would like to like if um lee like went back in the like his room and watched his karate tournaments on YouTube, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Oh that would have been cool, that would have been sick. Yeah, that would have been cool, I wonder. So that opening scene. They show a clip from Karate Kid Part 2, and then it turns into this animated sequence. Everything that Mr Miyagi says during that part is not part of the original movie. I kind of figured that. So I'm curious, curious, who's saying those lines? I didn't look it up if that's like someone who just sounds like pat morita or like an ai generated voice thing, because we can do that now I hope like his family got some money from his scenes in this one which is so cool scene.
Speaker 1:I'm like 30 years late yeah it's been over 10 years since he passed away too, you know yeah, yeah it's all fucking cool. Um, this is one other thing too, I forgot. Oh, the end credits, cameo scene, not end credit and cameo scene oh, with uh will, yeah, yeah I got excited when I saw like fuck yeah, dude these kids love this franchise. I love the franchise with them I want to go through watch all this shit right now, but uh, what would you give this one out of ten?
Speaker 2:I would say, I think this movie we didn't really touch on this I think this movie is really funny. It's fun.
Speaker 1:It's family friendly like I said it's safe though it is very safe, but go ahead seven and a half close to eight I give it six and a half somewhere in there.
Speaker 2:maybe I enjoyed give it a six and a half Somewhere in there. Maybe I enjoyed myself in the end.
Speaker 1:How was your theater? You said you went Friday. I went Friday. There was less than 10 people there, yeah, same here too. I'm more curious we're filming this on a Sunday. I'm curious to see how it did opening weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There is a cool popcorn bucket for a couple of them.
Speaker 2:I saw the one. It was the Five Boroughs, which was the name of the tournament. I almost bought the cup because it looks like his uniform that he's wearing.
Speaker 1:That was cool. He also wore Daniel's uniform.
Speaker 2:Yes, the headband, the headband, yeah, the headband.
Speaker 1:That was pretty cool, mr Miyagi's. I mean this whole thing. There's a lot of nostalgia mixed in there too.
Speaker 2:You know what? I'll move right up from 6.5 to 7. You're gonna go so because there's a lot of nostalgia in this movie too. Now you keep saying they're milking this for all it's worth. Yeah, so if you're curious how they can go forward, the one from the 90s with hillary swank they have done very little to connect that one back into everything. She's like not in cobra kai, they only make like a quick reference to her, so it could. I like the idea of her showing back up as like she's teaching her own version of miyagi do, and maybe that's the clash of like there's now two different styles of miyagi karate out there, or something along those lines. But that there's where you can milk. Continue to milk the franchise. Is her coming back? I don't know if she would, though not only her.
Speaker 2:I don't think ralph would come back yeah, I think he would do another one, you would, I think this one was so special like sure he turned down other ones, like he's very picky on which one and you don't really.
Speaker 1:There's a random fact like uh, william uh credits how he met your mother for bringing the six. Like cobra kai like, because, like he brought him on the, they brought him on a cameo for playing his character. Um, he plays himself he plays himself, yeah and then you know that got popularity sparking up again and that's what you know inspired him to do because have you seen that episode?
Speaker 2:do you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah he's like you know what? You're the only one who gets he gets, he's the good guy, he is the karate kid he already knows karate, so he's the karate right, you know, and it was an illegal jump kick makes sense, that is that is a whole thing, though the whole the crane kick was an illegal kick thing.
Speaker 2:That is a long-standing like debate among fans and you google it. There's all kinds of reddit threads and the whole bit about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you know if he's been anything william besides his friend?
Speaker 2:outside of this. I imagine he has, I don't really know.
Speaker 1:I mean they really don't need to like. I feel like at this point.
Speaker 2:No, he used to make cameos and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah I'm sure they weren't cameo too at one point, like the app oh, the actual yeah cameo, yeah, yeah I would man, that'd be sick. Um, brandon, it's been awesome having you on this podcast. I was talking about movies with you too yeah you mentioned you were. This is the first movie you've seen all year long. Yeah, wasn't worth the wait it was good.
Speaker 2:You know, honestly, there wasn't too much during this first half of the year that I was like oh man, I can't believe.
Speaker 1:I missed that one. No, they're crazy. They were good movies. What's coming out this year that you're excited for?
Speaker 2:Well, in this kind of vein that we're talking about here today, the Smashing Machine which we brought up earlier, also Mortal Kombat 2. I did see the trailer for that I'm going to be doing a lot of Mortal Kombat episodes leading up to that one. I don't know how I feel about Karl Urban as the character he's going to be playing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, was it Johnny Cage? Johnny Cage, yeah. Yeah, I did see a lot of controversy about that.
Speaker 2:Well, he's literally based off of Jean-Claude Van Damme, so it's like could have gotten Van Damme. He's an old man now. So those two for sure, he's an old man now, but um, so, those two for sure. Which? What's his name? I?
Speaker 1:mean that old call arm is not that young either. That's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, superman, uh, I'm a big DC guy and this is the first time in a very long time where I feel like I can actually be excited for a DC movie rather than just accepting it for what it's going to be I just had the superman blizzard yesterday at dq there's a superman blizzard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like. Uh, it's blue and has like little chunks of birthday cake in there dude, I know where I'm going after this.
Speaker 2:I love blizzard uh, fantastic form.
Speaker 1:Very, very excited for I think it looks cool like aesthetically so you haven't gone to the movie, so you haven't seen captain america or thunderbolts I haven't seen either one captain america did just got added to disney plus so I'll be watching that and thunderbolts before.
Speaker 2:Okay, before, fantastic four, that's encouraging the last one I saw. I did see deadpool and wolverine, though that was last summer I'm also like I'm really excited for I told you earlier for the predator, the predator, badlands, and then this week, as we're recording, is when predator, killer of killers, is coming out on hulu do you think we're gonna get alien versus predator again? I do think that's what they're trying to get back to. I'll be sick. I think they're trying to read.
Speaker 1:I think we talked about this last time when, like what other franchise they could cross over with, because it does technically blade runner is also part of this universe because it's the corporation.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard anything about blade runner in years.
Speaker 1:Part of this universe because it's the corporation I haven't heard anything about blade runner in years, so I kind of doubt that outside of the uh, that ryan gosling and I think there's a, I think max has a anime maybe it could be. Yeah, it could be, I don't know yeah, um, what's his face?
Speaker 2:has been a little busy with dunes, though, so I imagine he's dunes coming out.
Speaker 1:You know, christopher noel's movie that they've been filming has been getting a lot of hype.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the odyssey movie oh okay, you, you know nothing about that. I I knew he had another one. It's the half of hollywood's in there mac damon, tom tom tom.
Speaker 1:Holland zendaya. Uh, robert pattinson, okay so many more.
Speaker 2:I can't tell. Is Tom Holland and Zendaya just like a package deal at this point?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Tom Holland was the very first one announced, so the whole cast and then several other than Zendaya.
Speaker 2:Finally, this is a ridiculous pick. The.
Speaker 1:Punisher has been in there too. Oh, ben Thoreau, ben Thoreau Barnthal.
Speaker 2:Dumb pick the Naked Gun in there too. Huh, the punisher camera. Oh, benthrall, benthrall, barnthal, barnthal. Uh okay, dumb pick the naked gun very excited for the naked done, naked gun reboot girl seen that trailer.
Speaker 1:I can obviously tell she never seen the original yeah, yeah dude, that's gonna be so hard to get people to get on that board, I think.
Speaker 2:But that was the case with uh, the original guy too.
Speaker 1:He was such a serious actor, dude if you like that one, I think you would like Friendship with Tim Robinson. It's nothing that silly like that but it kind of is at the same time.
Speaker 2:I like those spoof movies, like all the Mel Brooks space balls. I think those movies are hilarious.
Speaker 1:But with what's his name starring in it?
Speaker 2:Liam Neeson.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I thought that was kind of a ballsy move to have him star in it, because didn't he just like get over controversies not too long ago, like didn't he try getting almost got cancelled not too long ago probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he said something I feel like everybody has come close at some point.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I am going to be in theaters watching that movie.
Speaker 2:I'm excited for that one and um you want to be on my show for Smashing Machine or Mortal Kombat 2? You want to do one of those. I could do either one of those. That would be fun.
Speaker 1:That would definitely be fun. Next week I got Ballerina coming on. Ballerina for the podcast, and then how to Train your Dragon. That's going to be a good one.
Speaker 2:That one does look good. My wife loves those movies.
Speaker 1:I've never seen them when I go through and watch them. Even the trailer alone looks fantastic.
Speaker 2:Good for DreamWorks to finally now they're doing the Disney thing of live-action reboots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's also a new Shrek movie coming out.
Speaker 2:That's not live-action is it?
Speaker 1:No, oh, thank God. That's also rumored to be a multiverse kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the multiverse?
Speaker 1:The trailer came out and one of the daughters is all growing up. Now it's played by zendaya and they're looking at the magic mirror on the wall and they're looking at other versions of shrek and they're like some from our world, like they're mostly memes oh, okay, got it people are pissed about the animation because they do look a lot more slicker.
Speaker 2:But someone's saying that's like a different universe. Maybe interesting okay, interesting Okay. I was thinking like, what other DreamWorks movies are they going to try and cross over into? They're like Chicken Run's going to show up.
Speaker 1:Donkey's going to get his own movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, puss in.
Speaker 1:Boots is not going to be the new Shrek movie.
Speaker 2:I heard Well, that one finished. Right, they did that. He got one pretty recently. Yeah, but he got one pretty recently, yeah, yeah, but I mean, like he's not gonna be the new shrek movie, yeah yeah, okay, donkey's gonna get his own movie.
Speaker 1:I think they're are doing another minions movie. Minions are despicable. Me one of those two. They're milking that franchise too. Oh, absolutely, um, dreamworks is is still doing it like uh, the new disney anime movies, leo, is coming out soon. That was kind of cute that looks all right.
Speaker 2:yeah, what yeah? What about Smurfs? Are you going to go see Smurfs?
Speaker 1:No, I'm so mad about that one Like yeah, they got Rihanna in there.
Speaker 2:All they did was okay. The plot of this movie is trolls. We're going to do trolls, yeah, and also that animation. It looks like a video game.
Speaker 1:Like a video game cutscene the entire time, kind of yeah, yeah, did they do a smurf movie too not so long ago with jason siegel something or was it?
Speaker 2:neil patrick harris. Yeah, one of them. I'm thinking of the muppets with jason siegel.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah yeah, um, so I don't know what's connected with that, really, I don't even see that one actually, but I think I saw the first one yeah, some of the stuff, but, like I said, russell and I'm about to be I'm about be 30, and these movies aren't made for us anymore.
Speaker 2:Pretty soon I will have to go see these movies because my son's three, I would say by five or six he's going to be like can we go? To the movies and see.
Speaker 1:You can just keep pushing karate movies on this kid.
Speaker 2:I am going to. Seriously, though, I've heard so much good stuff about the Wild Robot that I'm like we're going to have to make that a family movie night. We've done some of the Studio. Ghibli ones with him my neighbor Totoro. He really liked that one.
Speaker 1:Or Spirited Away or not Spirited Away.
Speaker 2:Sorry, it did. Yeah, kiki's Delivery Service. He really liked that one, because there's like flying machines and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Brandon, one more time, plug your podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you can. If you want some more Kung Fu fighting in your life, you can check out Kung Fu Pizza Party on all the platforms, also on Instagram at Kung Fu Pizza Party and Letterboxd Kung Fu Pizza P-R-T-Y. Literally. The show's name was too long by one letter, so I had to drop the A. So yeah, so check it out. Um gonna have rob uh here on the show here pretty soon and start doing some more uh, mortal combat content here pretty soon yeah, yeah, I'm definitely excited for those.
Speaker 1:I I never even there's like two of them out right now.
Speaker 2:So far right the movies of the new, yeah, the. There was one in 2021 and then there was a couple in the 90s.
Speaker 1:Are they connected?
Speaker 2:No, the two from the 90s are its own thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I gotta watch the newer one before I watch this one. It's fine.
Speaker 2:Look, here's the thing. At least for me and I think a lot of Mortal Kombat fans, I don't care. Plots are relevant, I just want to see good fighting. Which?
Speaker 1:is the base of the game. Yeah right, care, plots are relevant.
Speaker 2:I just want to see good fighting like which is the base of the game? Yeah right, like there's a lore, there's a thing, but like just give me some good fights yeah, uh, thank you, brandon, for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Thank you for ever listening. Subscribe to the instagram page. This is taken also the podcast um tiktok, I mean, uh, a bit more active on there, trying to make more content and a big announcement coming in the second half of june. Um, thank you for listening. Stay tuned next week. We'll be seeing you soon.
