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Superman

Robert Miranda and Brandon Cole Season 1 Episode 177

Superman marks a triumphant new beginning for DC, delivering a joyful, optimistic superhero film that balances fun action with genuine heart. James Gunn's vision for the Man of Steel brings the character back to his comic book roots while feeling thoroughly modern and relevant for today's audiences.

• David Corenswet silences doubters with his perfect embodiment of both Superman and Clark Kent
• Nicholas Holt delivers a standout performance as Lex Luthor, bringing intelligence, menace and unexpected humor
• The film wisely skips Superman's origin story, dropping viewers into an established world of heroes
• Superman's bright, colorful costume complete with classic red trunks perfectly updates his iconic look
• Krypto the Superdog steals scenes as Superman's not-so-obedient companion with a surprising origin
• The Justice Gang members (Guy Gardner, Hawk Girl, and Mr. Terrific) expand the DC universe with promising future directions
• Rachel Brosnahan's Lois Lane breaks the damsel-in-distress trope, becoming a driving force in the narrative
• Flight sequences created with help from the Top Gun: Maverick team deliver spectacular aerial action
• The film balances serious stakes with optimistic superhero fun, never sacrificing character development


Speaker 1:

excuse me, is anybody sitting here? Sorry, this is taken. Sorry, you know really how to start this. This is like a big episode the moment we were waiting on. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it very much surpassed my thoughts and reactions to this movie, Superman. We're going to talk about Superman today, the one we've been teasing all summer. Basically, I admit I was looking forward to Fantastic Four more and I think I should have been paying more attention to this movie, because this movie was hella fun.

Speaker 2:

What did I tell you? I picked this one for my most anticipated, and I'm glad I did it.

Speaker 1:

man, the journey to this movie lived up for it I, out of all the reviews online that I've seen, I would say about 85 of them are, like, well received for this movie. Like I, there's still some haters out there, but like I don't know, it's it's not for everybody. I could see it's not for everybody, but, um, for most I would say it was a good time yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I know I was talking to danny right before we saw it and I was like dude. You know, I grew up reading comic books like obviously I love the mcu, I love like there's not going to be a movie at this magnitude that I'm not going to root for. So it just is like validating and it just means so much when it goes well, you know yeah, yeah, I mean, superman is definitely like the biggest one you can have.

Speaker 1:

I would say like he's not only the first, but he's the most popular. Uh, I think I read an article like saying uh, superman is the most known, batman is the most popular, but spider-man is the most profitable that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense. So I actually I think we've talked about this I hate superman because of character just not like a, not a huge fan of his. Um, but you can't disrespect the blue, the bright blue boy scout. You know he is the og, he's, he's the uh on the route much rush.

Speaker 1:

More of you know superheroes and he's, he's just got that legacy forest I mean, he's not the most popular like I would say, like for people who read comics like that he, you know, because he's, like I said, a boy scout in this one, like that's who he is as a character. And you know, people like the darker, grittier stuff, like batman, you know stuff, um, but anything, any monster or any like new villain or anything like that, they're always gonna be compared to superman, like oh, is he stronger than superman? Like can he take superman? You know, superman is always the one they're gonna pin him up against, um, which is why I think, like everyone secretly likes him in some way, you know, or can at least respect him in some way, I would say yeah, I think he's definitely part of everybody's journey, whether, like, he's just a great intro character, he's someone like who can go alien intergalactic, and he's just like, if you just want to root for goodness you know, it's always that guy yeah, and I really want to dive into david corn.

Speaker 1:

So for this movie, because he did an amazing job as superman. I'd be the biggest one to say I was a doubter when he first was announced, especially after seeing twisters, because it was like right around that time, yeah, um, not to say he was bad on twisters, but like he was, like he was a dick in that movie and then, well, that's just acting. But I mean, like physically he didn't look like superman. He was very skinny and bronze. Um, he definitely did the work in this movie. Even though you don't like see any shortlist scenes with him, like you could definitely tell this dude's a massive dude and you got some weight to him. Yeah. Yeah, he's very solid. Um, we're gonna talk everything from casting, the soundtrack I really want to get into, like just the way it looks, the cgi crypto. Um, before we get on that, I wanted to talk about the marketing because we this has been on top of our minds for like a year now yep and the biggest controversy, or everything everyone's talking about, is will this be the movie to bring back dc?

Speaker 1:

because, like, when there was such a downhill, um, a lot of pressure was put on this one and I think it's safe to say like it's definitely gonna deserve my attention. To go to the next movie, facts, um, merchandise, there's all. Like I mentioned before, like we play both play fortnite and my first skin is superman. I, I love wearing, like, wearing it on the game. It's so fucking cool. It looks cool. I was from the beginning. I think I like the costume a lot.

Speaker 1:

Like a lot of people didn't like it, but you can definitely tell it's a mesh of all different kinds of, uh, costumes yep I didn't think I was gonna like it because, like how the mcu has a problem with the lines in the suit this is a lot of lines but like I don't know, like they don't really mention about, like how he got it where he got it from. How did you feel about the trunks being on the outside?

Speaker 2:

dude, I've. When it's the difference of hearing versus seeing, right like once. I heard that I was like, uh, I don't know. But then you know again someone I grew up in comics. I'm looking at him on my wall right here and it's part of the look, it's goofy, but it is just that like otherworldly. I liked it I think they did the best that they could have with him wearing the trunks on the outside.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, that was so bright Matches, his boots and his cape, it looked fucking awesome. You know I've been doing a ton of press around this movie and James Gunn mentioned about the trunks. When he was making it he struggled with it hard. He didn't know if he could do the trunks for this movie. He even consulted with zach snyder saying he did some variations of the costume with the red trunks but he couldn't figure out how to make it work.

Speaker 1:

But it wasn't until he talked to david cornsoot about it, saying, um, well, I think about like this, like superman is an alien who can lift buildings with his bare hands, shoot laser beams from his eyes, like what kid wouldn't be of that. So that's why I think that's why, like he wears trunks, like to make him a little bit more silly, a little bit more vulnerable, a little bit more like, you know, just goofy, goofy versus like a threat. Um, and it definitely makes sense when he plays like that, like now that without that explanation, going in there, like I didn't even bat an eye that he was wearing trunks, it didn't seem like awkward or nothing.

Speaker 1:

No, this is probably my favorite version of the cape. I don't think a lot of people are talking about that. The way it flowed, the way it looked, the way it touches his heels, it was amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did the perfect length of the cape, even the color. They got the color right. It just looks cool when he's flying, it looks cool when he stands still and it looks just it. This is why, uh, you know, and the incredibles old boy wanted a cape. You know, like, this is the inspiration yeah, yeah, definitely, he looks cool.

Speaker 1:

It made the flying. Look mccoy. It looked super cool. On crypto, I definitely wanted the one for my dog well, my brother's dog I.

Speaker 2:

You know that like come this halloween, there will be so many dogs in capes. I'm calling it right now let's do that costume that you're gonna see people just roll it out out of this year so far.

Speaker 1:

What do you think this is, including the movies coming out before halloween. What do you think are these costumes?

Speaker 2:

um, I keep seeing a lot of funny enough, um, uh, from sinners. Yeah, like mary, uh mary and uh stack, yeah, stacks. I think that, like at the end of the movie, like one of them, that retro that they're wearing. I think that's gonna be a big one and uh, yeah, you're gonna see a lot of fantastic four. It's just gonna be super easy for them to transition that one over as well.

Speaker 1:

You know, I went to C2E2 early this year and the biggest thing about it is the cosplays. The first one I saw was so unique but I knew who they were instantly and I didn't think I was going to recognize somebody like this. But they were dressed up from Inception, not Inception the Apple.

Speaker 2:

TV series with.

Speaker 1:

Adam Scott. Oh, up from um inception, not inception, the apple tv series adam scott.

Speaker 2:

Oh, severance, severance, thank you. I've seen people just have a severance and it was. I can't find it. I had a little severance badge, uh, on my desk that is cool, that's very cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was just like a suit, but like they definitely faded the color cord. Look at, that's pretty sick. Where'd you get that from?

Speaker 2:

uh, it was made for me for my birthday. Got like lumen on there that is sick.

Speaker 1:

That is sick. Um, merchandise I mean we talked about fortnight. Yeah, I loved it. Um, they did come with action figures. I'm a big collector I don't know people know that about me. Like, I do have a lot of action figures that I like to collect. I slowed down in the past two years, I would say, because I'm just buying too much. So I'm only really holding it out for the really cool ones and I really want to get my hands on the superman one.

Speaker 2:

That and all the fantastic four ones look really cool too yeah, it's like we said kind of going into this like right, when we really drummed up our hype for this summer. It's's like this is just the summer to be a nerd you know this is a good time, like I can really lean into it now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, though, like I seen this movie twice already, the second time is, you know, like I. The first time I went there to enjoy it, really, and the second time I went to go to like and like, analyze works. And not only that, it's not an origin story, you don't. You don't back, there's no flashbacks or anything like that.

Speaker 2:

This movie, which is very cool, nope we are on a part two of a uh, of a character that already exists, and I think that's the smartest decision they could have made.

Speaker 1:

You know, like I think you mentioned when we did F1, that it definitely felt like a movie we should have seen before then. This isn't that category, but I think we're okay with not seeing it, and I think they might do a similar route with the Fantastic Four, because they're already going to be established as heroes. I think that one looks like as if they might do flashbacks, but I could be wrong that one looks like as if they might do flashbacks, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would not agree more. I think the fantastic four will it almost should have flashbacks. I think a character that anybody who's ever picked up a comic book even if you haven't you know the general gist of superman, you know he's an alien, you know, like you know his parents, uh, like he lit, like he's a small town farm boy, so you can skip through all that part and how about like the captions in the very beginning, like before, like first of all it opens up an awesome sunset in Antarctica and then there's a caption saying like you know, these metahumans been on the world for over 300 years.

Speaker 1:

Superman came 30 years ago. They had a theme of three with all these captions three weeks ago. I thought that was cool, like the very cool introduction, like you're literally starting in the middle of the story, like in the middle of battle, and why don't? What a bold choice to like we see him at the lowest, low in his, in his probably year that year. Say he just lost the battle for the first time and that's exactly three minutes ago.

Speaker 2:

Superman just lost his first fight. That's like a really all right, drop me right in.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, I think it was smart to show him like that, because you can't go nowhere but up from that, literally on your ass, losing your first battle. All you can do is keep moving forward. But I thought that was cool to show Not a traditional opening. We're stopping in the middle of it and, like you said, james gunn said we're tired of origin stories. He grew up with, uh, reading comics, but by the time he got to the comics, superman was already part of this giant world. It's like why not include them already? Like, like that's what people want to see.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like as if we jumped in right into a comic book yeah, one quote that I really liked from him was he's like there's three things I never want to see again in a superhero movie. We don't need to see, you know, the pearls in crime alley. We don't need to see superman landing on earth and we doubt. And we don't need to see spider-man getting bit by the spider. We got it you know everyone can at least understand those three big things yeah, yeah, I mean, this is pretty.

Speaker 1:

You don't even need flashbacks, because I was for sure expecting something like that. Um, man, there's just so much place to start like I don't even know where to start with this podcast. Uh, popcorn buckets I'll be honest, like I thought they were kind of mid all of them. Well, like one or two of them. I did really like the amc superman cup. It reminded me, like the texture, a lot of the captain america one that came out earlier this year, but with just a rubbery cape. Yeah, I liked it a lot. It looks, I think little mini crypto came on top of it. I wanted to go buy it the opening day when I went, which is on a thursday. I know you went to go see it tuesday, yeah, um, but then I didn't get it there. I came back the very next day to go to the movies to see it again and it was gone. Like I should have bought it when I had it do it when you had a chance.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got really lucky seeing it on tuesday and I'm so glad I did because, peace, I had a little bit more time to marinate on it and all that fun stuff. But yeah, they were fully stocked. They had the popcorn buckets out, um, people were ready to go.

Speaker 1:

My, yeah, it was a really great time you went to go see it on the tuesday because a our prime was doing an early giveaway for prime members. It was very cool. Like you had to buy it through the prime app, right? Yeah, I've seen a lot of people went. Was it a bitch or not when he went?

Speaker 2:

dude, my theater was packed.

Speaker 1:

That's insane. The only downside about that is like I couldn't go Tuesday cause I had something to do, but, like you, got to avoid spoilers for a whole week.

Speaker 2:

Now, you know, if you don't go those early two days like with the mass, yeah, no, that's exactly it, and I didn't want to have to like look at you know, not look at stuff online or mute the words on twitter, because I do that all the time. I just didn't want to have to go through that, but no, completely packed. Um, I think my theater was sold out and the theater across the street was sold out as well.

Speaker 1:

Oh sick, yeah. Did you buy any popcorn buckets or anything like that? What's that? Did you buy any popcorn buckets for anything? No, I didn't buy it.

Speaker 2:

I just bought regular popcorn. I know myself similar to you. If I go down the bucket rabbit hole, I'll just have them all. I will hoard them. I have abandonment issues. I can't let them go. I'll just be collecting dust instead of popcorn on my mantle over here.

Speaker 1:

I don't know which theater had it, but it was just like a regular popcorn bucket but it felt like that cup, like that kind of rubbery, like the suit, almost like you're feeling the suit Okay, and it was just simple. It was just like the suit, almost like you're feeling the suit okay, and it was just simple. It was just like the superman suit around this regular pocket bucket. That would be the only one I really want to buy, but I try to look online for it anywhere I can find it I'll find you one I got you um amc did that daily bugle uh newspaper thing I don't even know what it's called um.

Speaker 1:

I thought what a waste. I thought it was kind of lame yeah. I don't know how much they could have done.

Speaker 2:

Like sometimes I can get like really creative. Like even for the Fantastic Four I have like hella ideas.

Speaker 1:

I thought the popular one is like the Daily Bugle planting on top. That would have been cool yeah, yeah yeah, or even one of those superman robots, heads or something you know that would have been dope. See now you're talking.

Speaker 2:

Now. You're speaking only, or even like uh.

Speaker 1:

I know he was only in there for a little bit, but uh, um, when he's the I forgot his name the hammer, the hammer of uh, whatever, like the he had that like juggernaut fit like that, oh yeah yeah, I would even go as far as say, like mini popcorn bag is like with the like the hawk girls hammer that'd be kind of hard, I don't know how that would work hey, do another green lantern bucket.

Speaker 2:

I'm a huge fan of the green lantern bucket yeah, that's not. That's one of the og, it's a literal lantern, you know, like that's just easy to carry around yeah, that is pretty sick.

Speaker 1:

I got an actual lantern here that lights up too. Um, yeah, I mean popcorn rockets, mid, like the other one I think amc or cinemark might have had, like where superman using this heat vision to like heat up the popcorn oh, that's baller yeah, I haven't seen that, it was okay yeah um come on.

Speaker 2:

That's cool.

Speaker 1:

I like to be able to use their powers like that I started code on amc app shop, the shop website part, and uh, they do have like a superman blanket, I believe too okay, okay, I like it um, I went to go see it the first showing. Unfortunately I didn't see an imax. Uh, the second time I seen it it wasn't definitely an IMAX. Whoa.

Speaker 2:

What happened?

Speaker 1:

The timing. I went to go see it on Thursday. I get off work at 4.30. The first one was at 2.30. The next one wasn't until 9 for some reason, so that's why I just didn't see it. You think you know a guy I definitely made up for. I'm gonna see it the nine max the next day and I've seen it twice. I've definitely opened and seen it a third time. What about you?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, I actually liked it. Uh, more this, this new round, um, and I want to go watch it again because you know not not to get into it. It just puts me in a good mood, bro it's everything you wanted in the superman movie.

Speaker 1:

Basically, let's go down the casting real quick. Well, first of all, let's talk about james gunn, who this is like his first, his first born for a dc you kind of not really actually, but definitely yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, because he did suizan squad and beast major, but this is his, like first time at the helm of his version of what the dc is going to be. This is. I like to say this is his pilot episode for the next you know 30. You know plus movies or or projects that he, uh, has in his brain yeah, and also I think this is still unconfirmed.

Speaker 1:

This is kind of like random thought, but like I think it still hasn't been confirmed yet if the blue beetle is a part of this universe or not yeah, he hasn't confirmed yet yeah, um, david corn sweat like superman himself. Man, I told you I was very skeptical about him, skeptical about him, but dude, this dude just embodies superman. And one of the things I loved about this movie.

Speaker 1:

I felt like it was a healthy mix between clark kent and superman yeah like I can't get mad, like when they when the superheroes in their very little point. It's like I think there's a spider-man movie that's similar, like that it's most that's one of the biggest things. Like he's not mostly spider-man in these movies, mostly peter parker. I think this is a good back and forth. Like we see enough of clark kent, we know about his life and we also see like directly involvement with his superman identity too yeah, no, I couldn't similar to you.

Speaker 2:

When I got the casting, I didn't, you know, wasn't convinced, to say the least, and I know it was down to him, nicholas holt and that other guy, and I remember the other guy but I was like that guy looks more like superman, like I don't know, this guy was made for it.

Speaker 1:

I, I, I'm pumped I was gonna be that up too about nicholas. Halt like I don't know. Do you think Nick could have pulled it off?

Speaker 2:

F. No, no man, I don't. I thought it was weird when I saw him the first time. I think he, I think the genius of James Gunn taking him a guy who was supposed to be Superman and making him Lex. That's what I needed to happen.

Speaker 1:

He just played Lex so good. He's played Lex so good. He's probably my favorite part about this movie. I can't wait. We'll talk about him in a minute, but he's so good in the movie David Cornsoy. He definitely did the work. Like I said, we talked about him putting on the muscle for this movie, but even just the way he talks throughout the whole movie is so much like Superman. Like he means what he's fucking saying. Basically he has a chiseled jaw, like you just tell by listening to him. He has a chiseled jaw kind of thing. Um, man, oh man, did he play a good one. Like he played it just like the comic book. Like we see him saving squirrels in this movie. You know, like he's like giving speeches. He's hanging around kids, like he's definitely embodying superman in this movie. Um, that's what superman is like. Everyone wants to take a picture of superman.

Speaker 2:

I would love to take a picture of superman absolutely, and he even pulls off like the, the nerdy, like I remember that one of the first things he's like golly, yeah, just like hey, dude, you know, like good job, dude, you can, you can get away with that hey, dude, you know, like good job, dude, you can, you can get away with that man.

Speaker 1:

Like, yeah, like I, I. I can only imagine what a 10 year old thinks about this movie.

Speaker 2:

You know that that's what probably seems coolest to me. Yeah, yeah, I know. Um, I think like, well, I, my niece, goes to all my movies with me. Uh, especially when I lived in like oklahoma slash texas, like every thursday that was our favorite thing, um, and I called her directly after, like I told my sister like hey, I'm sending you money. You better make sure she's on thursday 7 pm, and then she can do like get back to summer, like I I was over the moon, excited for you know the younger reaction as well that is very cool.

Speaker 1:

That is very cool. Um, man like even outside the movie, david corn sweat is like embodying superman, like he's. You see him like hanging. He loved taking pictures with people in the suit. It looks like um. The whole cast seemed like they get along very well and all the interviews I see them with nicholas holt is is great. Right now he's blonde. I don't know if you've seen them going around. He's blonde for a movie coming up oh, yeah, yeah he's very blonde actually even like the premiere.

Speaker 1:

It was um hosted by soups on the tiktok. I don't know if you've seen that. Yeah, the premiere looks so much fun. Everyone had a great time, like everybody was having a blast.

Speaker 2:

Like you can tell, the vibes were so high, which is what we talked about the other day. Like I knew that this was gonna be good, I just felt the reaction coming I don't like.

Speaker 1:

The first thing I did would go home was come play fortnight like I wanted to be superman again. You know I wanted to be superman to the point. I like the suit. I have a captain america suit that's been on this podcast before.

Speaker 2:

I would probably buy a superman suit like his superman suit hell yeah, dude, I don't know about you and your theater, but I actually had a decent amount of dudes like with the like blue teeth, uh, superman shirt on and like I like kicked myself. I was like, yeah, I guess that would have been cool to wear, you know I thought the same thing.

Speaker 1:

I don't have anything superman like I may, I definitely gotta buy one now at least. Yeah, yeah, I cannot tell you how much someone asked me I would talk about the movie, like, is this better than the marvel movies? I was like a good 75 of them. I would say no, okay it the way it describes them as like it was fun, as fun as guardians of the galaxy the first one, yeah, and I mean the plot line's so simple. This movie. It just has so much charm to it though it's the cast makes it works. The writing was so fucking good no, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2:

I haven't really delved into like where I would rank it amongst you know, of its peers, but I think functionally as a movie like whatever. Well, like I said up front, the way this movie made me feel like I was grinning. I was sitting there grinning, ear to ear like just enjoying this movie and I that's all I needed it to do definitely, definitely it was.

Speaker 1:

You walked out to the theater feeling good, honestly, about it. I I walked out, I would. The thursday I went to go see like a five o'clock showing and um. So I walked out and it was still light out. I was like I'm in a good ass mood, like seeing a good ass movie. You can still have time to do shit. Uh, let's just talk about nicholas hall, because he's I, he's another one. I was like kind of almost cringing at like the idea of him playing lex luther and the biggest reason that is like I don't know if he had the physique like I'm picturing, like a more muscular man than him, like more bigger man.

Speaker 2:

I was just saying and he's pretty from the from the animatic um. The animated TV show Lex was a little bit bulky, like. That's also what I envisioned as well.

Speaker 1:

And um yeah, um, Nick is just like, but once he shaved his head, even if she just said I thought he looked so weird, but on the big screen it works, it works. He looks so fucking cool and look just like lex luther kind of like, especially when he was so much passionate about the monologues he was giving.

Speaker 2:

It was fantastic yeah, yeah, I very similar. Like obviously we always are excited to see how you know lex looks with the bald head, but when you see him and like he, just he just got this aura, you know he used the kid term about him like damn that, that's lex luther right there he was.

Speaker 1:

Um, he's just more like comic book super. Evenly, this is first like super evil version of lex luther. I feel like we see like jesse eisenberg is more like corporate evil. I felt like you know he didn't, he's more behind the scenes stuff, he didn't really say shit. But like I feel like we see the evil, genius side of lex luther very well in this movie, like mostly because he memorized all superman's moves, he built all these machines. Supposedly he has a lot going on with his company. Uh, he's about to take over a country, two countries and, um, yeah, you definitely see the superhero genius side on this, on this kind of movie yeah, I think you said it exactly right.

Speaker 2:

Like you can tell how smart he is. And of course they did like lean a little bit into like the what does a billionaire look like? Now you know, and and and throw it into that universe. But I think that helped him even more, like I had no question that he was. He was smart.

Speaker 1:

And he was also just a good counterpart. Counterpart to David Cornswath. Like they work, so like their face offs were intimidating.

Speaker 2:

Cause he's so smug Like even like the scene where Superman like storms his office and he's just like looking at him like I have no idea what you're talking about. You know he's just like looking at him like I have no idea what you're talking about. You know he's getting under his skin. He probably had so much fun filming that.

Speaker 1:

I bet, man, they seem like such good friends off the screen, like all the interviews and all the TikToks they make together. Now it's awesome. I love Nicholas Holt man. I hear a lot of interviews that compare him to the Beast and the X-Men, um people bringing up his Nosferatu and you know he's. He's such a great actor.

Speaker 2:

He's a fantastic actor and I think we're talking about it up front Like he got paid the most out of this movie, you know that's what happens when you have like a filmography or just like a dope character actor Like um him in the menu was like a performance that stuck with me even today, like I just I have so much respect for everything that he's done and when you get someone like him to lend himself he didn't have the best run in x-men like he. Obviously he was. I thought he was a dope beast, but like moving from back and forth like shit, terrible movie, good movie, okay movie, terrible movie, terrible movie. Like now he gets you know a little bit more front and stage as the number two of this one I think he got paid like 1.5 mil or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Two mil, two mil. And then david, I saw like 750 000.

Speaker 2:

That's kind of crazy yeah, yeah him and uh rachel, both got, both got 750 I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1:

I bet you'll go out for the sequel oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, and they got um. I was also reading. They got like points on the back end. So okay as well as this movie does.

Speaker 1:

Like they, you know they recoup a little bit, so I'll take that deal, yeah, yeah, like I mean, the best marketing for this movie is right now is just word of mouth, like it's. I'm telling everyone to go watch it. You know, any age, any age, you would love this movie. It's so simple. I would feel like a 10 year old can understand it as well as like a 70 year old yeah, yeah, it's a blast.

Speaker 2:

It is four quadrant.

Speaker 1:

It hits everybody uh, rachel braun braunahan, rachel braunahan who plays?

Speaker 2:

lois lane.

Speaker 1:

Uh, she did good, she did good. I don't know too much of her work really, um, but really I don't know not should I did you? Did you watch house of cards? No, I did not oh, hey, what's up.

Speaker 2:

She's good in there. Yeah, she's phenomenal. That's for, and marvel of, uh, marvel of, mrs mazel. Um, I think I only made it. Oh, that's her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bro, yeah I remember like amc did show like trailers, like uh, when the new seed was coming out, um, I did want to start it. Look good, I heard nothing but good things. No, that's fine, she's. She was good like her. And david's fight scene like was very convincing. Like um, she didn't back down. He definitely got the sense of a kind of person she is. Like the way she was like kind of stubborn in some ways, like yeah, she's in a relationship but she's also a grill on his ass with these questions. Um, she did phenomenal. I like them both together, like lois lane and him. I like how like he's like says I love you, like right, way too soon and it takes her a while to think about it well, go to the free energy man yeah, um, um, the same thing.

Speaker 1:

I think they have the perfect amount of her in this movie too, like we didn't have too little of her, which I was kind of worried about, or um, too much of her perfect amount. Like she was definitely there to help the plot keep moving, um, but also, like I like how it's, she wasn't the one in danger really in this movie, you know oh bro, 10 10, 10.

Speaker 2:

I I was so excited, I'm so over, like the damsel in distress. I've seen it a thousand times. I kind of liked her, like you said, just being the driving force of this movie. She was pissing me off a little bit when she was giving my boy Soup some heat. Lay off him. We in a relationship, why you being so competitive? She talks about the integrity of what they do, like she's a go-getter. There's scenes where, like, people are, you know, running for their lives and she's like, make sure you get the words right.

Speaker 1:

Like she, she's very locked in in this movie yeah, I'd like to see more of them together and I hope she's kind of like pepper pot.

Speaker 2:

She's gonna be in most of the movies now, hopefully yeah, and and to your point, she doesn't have to be specifically for superman, like you can 100% see, like go see her, like investigating something that happens with the lantern or going to check something else out, like that's the whole point of having a news reporter who can be a little bit more mobile that's what they did with um karen and daredevil as well.

Speaker 1:

She showed up in other shows as a reporter. Yeah, yeah, uh, let's talk about the justice gang. Uh, very funny play like. It's like obviously gonna evolve to the justice league at some point.

Speaker 2:

But uh, gray lancer, hawk girl and mr terrific uh, mr terrific, I believe, did make an appearance in one of the cw shows, but this is the first big screen, I believe yeah, he was on arrow and uh, I love this portrayal on Arrow, but, dude, his costume and I don't know if you ever saw it like he had like the cornrows, but it was like so irritating because in normal world he didn't. And then he was like let's suit up. And then he has like the cornrows again and it's like he didn't just put those in.

Speaker 1:

That was so stupid man, the.

Speaker 2:

CW, I think I. I mean this was almost as colorful and bulky as the cw if you think about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, but it's just the writing that makes it so much better yeah, and you know, this is what happens when we have a budget uh, but mr terrific, he was dope in this movie.

Speaker 1:

I like this guys. A lot of people are hating on the leather jackets and like leather pants and everything like that for the justice gang. I didn't mind them, I thought they were okay. But Mr Terrific was probably almost most comic book accurate With a T on his face. It's not just paint, it looks like almost like a physical mask he probably takes off. I wonder. He was great. He had a fight scene similar to yondu and guardians 2.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that's a good way to put it yeah, that's.

Speaker 1:

That's immediately what I thought when I saw that, especially because the music dude.

Speaker 2:

he, uh, he stole the show for me. Like characters I think about outside, and not just because he's like a dope ass black dude. He's cool man like someone's saying earlier, like james gunn knows how to do cool. Like he's like I dope ass black dude. He's cool man, like someone saying earlier, like James Gunn knows how to do cool. Like he's like I'm goddamn Mr Terrific and I was like just let's go. Yeah, hell yeah, you are dude. Like every, every scene with him, I was either cracking up or I was impressed.

Speaker 1:

I mean, there's already talks about him rightfully so I would like to see his, his brain a little bit more like he's. He's considerably compared to like reed richards, if not smarter yeah, he's in the. Uh, I know he's top 10, like across both um dcm marvel but if they go to like, like, just like how they did with the iron heart, if you get a dope character and give its own spinoff, I don't want to like, spend too much time with his history like let's move forward, let's keep this train going you know like.

Speaker 1:

I didn't need a backstory for Ironheart like I could have you made it that show, I did, I did but he was great in this movie. I had a blast watching him.

Speaker 1:

Guy Gardner Green Lantern. He was great in this movie. I had a blast watching him. Guy gardner green lantern, he was a interesting choice. Nathan filion, I mean. Obviously the big question is like his age, like what I, I don't know I'm picturing like biff to the future kind of type yeah, yeah, that's a real, yeah, um, but guy gardner, like that's the thing, um, this is his.

Speaker 2:

I think I read some of that. There was like another live action iteration but it was like in 1997, so I don't know, I'm not counting it, but uh, like this is like his first real big screen, like motion pic, blockbuster, motion picture, um, and I thought I I was so irked and like didn't understand, like the casting choice, like I loved it, but I was like a guy gardner yeah, I'm not even just as confused as the the casting choice, but the character choice, like why, guy garnered, I might not like, um, I know, like john stewart, like they are john stewart or howell jordan so I knew that one didn't bother me because I knew they were making the lanterns tv show, so and like that's a really I don't know what I'm talking about this, but Green Lantern was my first or second real superhero that I meshed with.

Speaker 2:

I've loved him since. As far as I can remember. That's the really dope thing about having a Green Lantern core. They're all completely different, they're their own individuals. You can put Guy Gardner. They have sectors. You can say this is his sector. They're all protecting earth, but he protects like this part, and then you know how is like the more experienced, and john stewart is probably just becoming john stewart when we meet him in lantern.

Speaker 1:

So I I like them all, you know, doing their own thing right now I think I read in the article, like I I want to say variety, but like he was, he's all guy gunner's already described as the third best lantern.

Speaker 2:

I want to say that maybe they're just comparing the comics or something like that, but um, I I think pretty sure guy gunner is gonna show up in the lantern core show and which I'm very excited for yeah, well, he, uh, I actually this morning I saw an article of uh nathan talking about it and he said he's dropped more f-bombs than like he has in his entire career in the show, like specifically, and that just made me laugh because guy garner is a hothead and you see a little bit in here like he.

Speaker 2:

He's very emotional, he's just like off the cuff.

Speaker 1:

So I'm excited about his haircut. Yeah, he was definitely funny in this movie. Um hawk girl in this movie. I can't I'm trying to find the actress's name right now, but Isabella Monair yes, isabella dude, she's like my top three Hollywood crushes right now.

Speaker 1:

She's done everything from Dora the Explorer to she was in Alien 2. She is such a great actress, even though I don't think she, like her character, kind of got the short end of the stick in this movie. I feel like a little bit not too much to see from her, but you could definitely tell we're gonna see her in the future. Yeah, I love her. I like her a lot. I thought her costume, her costume, was okay. I like the helmet a lot. I like the hammer a lot. The wings were pretty cool. It's just like the leather shoes. That kind of just didn't do for me didn't work for you.

Speaker 2:

I, very similar to you. I've been like I didn't know that this was her until I looked at her filmography and I was like, oh yeah, instant Family. I know this yes Day, I know this, like all those, but she's been everywhere. Like I just finished watching her in the Last of Us, you know not too long ago, and then to see her in here, she is, she's next, she's up next, and I am, uh, I want her in everything. Uh, she's, she's beautiful and she's got like this like the uh, just presence on screen One hundred percent. One of my crushes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, um, I think this next character definitely sold a movie, a whole movie, Same. Thing. I think they're using the perfect amount. I'm going crypto.

Speaker 2:

Crypt going crypto. Crypto is one of the funnest part about this movie.

Speaker 1:

He was all right. I thought, man, what choices to make to like to make him like a bad dog. You know it's like not really listening, it's still a kind of puppy arrow. What a choice. Because, like when you think of crypto, like you think of like the super dog, like, yeah, who is just a genius, he's described as human-level smart, but I don't know, he's a puppy in this one. What a choice to make a bad dog, to make that a plot point in the movie too.

Speaker 2:

Once we find out why he's a bad dog, I let my guard down again. I grew up on that crypto super dog TV show. I know I'm like my stoic crypto so at first it took me a little bit to be like all right, this, this dog is pissing me off and I'm like man, it was a.

Speaker 1:

It was a scratchy the cat too with it. Yeah, yeah, he was not. He looked cool, which we all know, like it's james gunn's dog which is painted white, basically, and cgi'd. They also made him kind of big, like he looked bigger. He looked normal size compared to david cornso, but like when he sat on lois's lap and that ship at the end is as big as his torso, her torso yeah, but you know that's the size difference.

Speaker 2:

When you're sitting next to superman, we all look small yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, he was fun and, like you said, like the fun little easter egg, like oh, it's not really superman's dog and you find out whose it is. That was very cool detail to have.

Speaker 2:

Like it makes me excited for the supergirl movie now yeah, yeah, and I don't know if we'll talk about it later, but yeah, everything about how that interaction went down and he's like beating the hell out of her and she's like laughing.

Speaker 1:

I was like that makes sense, like I thought, like most of the movie is like man, I bet you it would be so much fun to james gunn made like kind of like how you did the guardian special on disney if he did that with max, but like him training the dog or something you know, okay, or yeah, that would be pretty sick, I thought I'd watch that, I'd watch that and that's, like you know, just a testament to about james gunn, like, and what he's able to do.

Speaker 2:

There's so many things in this movie that I left going. I'd want to see more of that. Or like I'd see a spinoff, like you talked about it up front, like whether you know, does this save dc right? Like I don't know, probably, probably not. Who knows what it did is make me curious on what comes next. Every aspect of the next few movies that they either introduce or show got my anticipation of that up, so to me, that's like, yes, it saved it, because now we have more intrigue, more hype and more uh interest in what comes next with dc.

Speaker 1:

I don't think we're going to see like a direct solo movie, like how the superman had all these other characters in their movie. They already established like this is a world full of heroes. I think in every movie we're gonna get there's gonna be cameos from other heroes from here on out yeah, I mean like you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because up next we have what supergirl, so we know she'll be interacting with a lot of people. Then we got the lanterns tv show. That's obviously multi-people, peacemaker, got hella people in it, and then I think, um, the even batman's supposed to be batman the brave and the bold. So yeah, quite literally, what, like james gunn is not starting from, you know, uh, the start, like he was like no, we, we need to get this going so we can really drive it forward.

Speaker 1:

I mean even that creature's commander, like batman, doesn't make appearance in there. He was like no, we need to get this going so we can really drive it forward. I mean, even the Creatures Commando, like Batman, doesn't make an appearance in there. It's the same Batman. Even though we probably won't get direct cameos, they might be subtle, like that one, you know. Did you watch Creature Commandos? I started it, I never finished it. Oh, you're missing out. I heard they already come back for season two and like with that guy in this movie, frank, in real life.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember his name he's directly from that show, which is very cool, very different. You know he's supposed to be going to be Peacemaker 2, season 2, which I gotta catch up on um you gotta lock yourself away, man it's so much, there's too much stuff to watch.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I just want to talk about the Daily Planet alone. A lot of people wanted to spin off just that show their lives alone. I don't know. To me this is like the lowest point of the whole movie. Like they're very comically cartoony, almost like the editor, like he didn't have the cigar not in his mouth the entire time.

Speaker 2:

Living in 2025, I was like this is not past the fire state laws dude, I, I hear you and I think like the pitch for me goes in two directions. It could be an office style tv show, I guess, like because of how a little bit over the top they are like. That's more so where I would want to see more from jimmy, but uh, or like a. You know, there's this really dope concept of a tv show with, like, vanessa Hudgens.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna bring that up, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like you know what happens, like to the day-to-day people in a world full of superheroes and I would be very interested to see again what their stories are going for and like how that all interacts. Like I could be sold on that type of show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I mean Jimmy, I don't really care for that actor, I don't know it's not done.

Speaker 2:

Bad, I guess he's.

Speaker 1:

He's a ladies man bro he got that irresistible riz.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's got that unintentional riz there's also uh talk.

Speaker 1:

I thought about mr terrific. Uh, again, spin off. He jimmy is also in the talks.

Speaker 2:

Again it's spent I don't need it, yeah no, I definitely don't need that.

Speaker 1:

No, no, they saw a lot of what works in this movie and they're just going to try to milk it for money now. I hope they don't like that's what these Marvels have the problems with. On Disney Plus shows yeah, and Kevin Feige said yeah, that wasn't our choice.

Speaker 2:

I think that's the importance of listen, you know and Kevin Feige is like he, in his prime, was the best of this. There was a best of this. There is a difference of hey, we have a plan, we're going to stick to the plan, but also we can be receptive to the fan Not input, but what works. We can pivot where it's possible. If they just start going like, oh, people like them, give them a series. Oh, people like them, give them a, now we're getting away like the core of what the original was set out to do, and that's when everything gets murky and you feel like everything's underdeveloped, way too much content out. No quality control. Like that is a place we do not need to go to you said man, that was pretty good how you said that.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I mean, the daily planet going back to the Daily Planet definitely could be featured. We talked about Karen being featured in that we could definitely see iterations of I'm sure that's going to be the biggest Easter eggs from here going forward like news articles written by so-and-so from that first one, their involvement, like writing a whole article to take down Lex Luthor in the span of 10 minutes. Like I didn't buy that at all what well?

Speaker 2:

I mean they had most of it and like they were flying around in a orb. You know, like I can't the speed of them writing, if I can watch them float around but I mean, brandon, like have you ever floated in the orb? I'll be freaking the fuck out like versus like well, she wasn't right when she was talking.

Speaker 1:

She said jimmy, get these words, but yeah um, also bringing that up, like this world is just like unfazed with superman fights. Now, like in the beginning, the first fight with uh, the warhead or whatever like that, they were fighting them. People were still standing around taking videos. I was like I would get the fuck out of there.

Speaker 2:

Generational beef with how everybody handles any type of big situation. We always pull out our phones and just start. You're in danger, bro, Get out of there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just got the sense of feeling that the world was kind of used to stuff like this, especially Superman.

Speaker 2:

I would feel totally safe with superman around facts and like they, like I know they um mentioned a little bit about the collateral damage. Like they were like, oh you know, like a few people in the hospital like to 20 million dollars in like property damage, but no one like no fatalities. Like you know, that's still important to me too. Like I know that was the big issue with man of steel. He was just launching Zod through like multiple buildings, buildings in the city and they're crazy ass fights but um, this one worked yeah I mean the towards the end, when they're evacuating buildings like that superman even catches the building.

Speaker 1:

I was like there's no way he saved. He saved one person, but like there's no way he saved yeah, he definitely still killed a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

At least he's not. Like that's the difference, right, like there's a difference of him even in this one, like paying attention, like backing up. I love the scene where he's like holding it up and his like body cracks the window like he's like everybody good, like yeah, versus taking the the, the monster and throwing it himself into the building.

Speaker 1:

Like there there's a difference there yeah, he's definitely conscious of more of the safety of people versus like even though he saved a squirrel rob yeah a squirrel even that creature like that likes to let loose, like he didn't want to kill it, he wanted to study it. I was like that's kind of corny.

Speaker 2:

But that's that's superman, yeah I mean, but you, you raise a larger point, like, at the end of the day, you can nitpick the hell out of this movie. There's so much stuff in here that I can roll my eyes. But I don't care, bro. Like that's the point, like they it's.

Speaker 1:

So the broad strokes makes up for it in a massive way um, one of the biggest things, favorite parts of this like so many monologues that are just so great in this movie. Yeah, I mean, even lex luther has a handful of great monologues superman with his dad, superman with lex luther. Um, even like that, just the whole exchange in the interview part with lois and him. It was so well-written, it was kind of inspiring someone. In the second time watching the movie, during the father and like father son talk, there was a girl like and I think it was sobbing her eyes out. I was like it is not that good hey she's doing.

Speaker 2:

You know she's in her journey. I would also probably stare at them like all right.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of feel good moments, Like there was a sense of risk, like actual consequences in this movie you see Lex Luthor actually kill a man. Like like how shocked were you when they showed that jerry actually like.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think that they were, and of course they, you know, I thought that that would last longer, had me rolling um but yeah, no, like a little bit darker.

Speaker 2:

We're very used to seeing lex, you know, his goons kill for him, like he has all this like security and shit, but like this one he said like nah, I'm putting the revolver to his head myself. I was like all right, and like he did it. I would want more of that. If I'm being honest, I think that's probably something I could have explored a little more that's because you're a serial killer.

Speaker 1:

um, I mean, we saw that, we didn't see that. We didn't see any mercy from lex in this movie. He was cold-hearted throughout the whole thing and that was what I liked about him. We see what's his name, the guy who changes physical form, oh, metamorpho, metamorpho. He was a pretty cool adaptation of this movie the first live action, if I'm not mistaken. They did so good. They had his son, little Joey. I thought that was going to be Martian Manhunter at some point because he looked green, okay, but I don't think so. There's also, like someone theories that he's out there already because, like someone was watching Superman on a monitor that had Oreos near the monitor, yeah, yeah, but I didn't even know what scene that was from. I thought that was from the blue beaver, uh, blue beetle movie. Oh, maybe it was. That could be, I don't know, I didn't. I guess I didn't read too much in the article but, um yeah, man, I first off, you know james gunn.

Speaker 2:

I love his brain. It's just like one, his attention to details like as small as like the glasses. Like not just being like oh, we can't recognize them, that they're hypno glasses, like like that's such a fun and comic, accurate detail that I had to be refreshed on Like I love shit like that. But also like there's no kryptonite on this world. But having like oh boy, turn into kryptonite, I was like damn, that's why alexis didn't go. I was like go ahead, bro. The only stupid thing he did was put him in the box with him, because I feel like he could have put him a few like the case down. It still would have worked yeah active to him.

Speaker 1:

So I mean that whole jail was very impressive too. Like I wonder, like there's easter eggs, like other villains and stuff like that in there. Um, because it's all personal against um yeah, who did it? Wrong. Um, do you think we'll get the same vibes of this movie as we did in supergirl? I mean, will? Will we get supergirl the same vibes with this one?

Speaker 1:

um as far as like tone yeah, yeah, like tone, because it is going to be off planet, I believe. Um, but do you think we'll get as much fun? Like a part of the reason that the fighting scene looks so good, they worked with the guys from Top Gun, maverick. I read yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think it's going to be different in a good way. I think we're still going to have like the way it was not necessarily the way it was shot, cause I'm sure they'll bring out like their own team, like cinematographer whatever, like cinematographer whatever. But I think, like her, like the piece that we got of her is going to work I know that, with it being intergalactic, with it being like obviously she's going planet to planet to get wasted, and the addition of Jason Momoa as Lobo on a revenge story, like it's going to get a little nutty, like I do think it's going to be a way more zany but kind of darker and like a really interesting way.

Speaker 1:

I agree. This had me concerned, like, where I feel like with this first movie, you are setting the tone for how all the other movies are going to be shot. How do you think we're going to see, like a Batman adapt to this kind of world? Like, is it going to?

Speaker 2:

be a brighter, I think, because the question that you got to ask is how is, like suicide squad is different than this right? Yeah like peacemaker is like there's some dark ass scenes in peacemaker, so like, yeah, this is setting the tone, but like it just shows you, like the left and right limits, now we can work into the gray, now we can get into the nitty-gritty, because we we almost like, have this bright, like expectation. They, they can play with just how we view it a lot more.

Speaker 1:

That was pretty well to put that again. All right, they already talked about right now casting a Wonder Woman too, so I'm excited to see they already teased Justice League teaming up or forming at some point in this universe, because they show the Hall of Justice a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I know we talked about it. Who was your pick for wonder?

Speaker 1:

woman. Um, we don't know if we had talked about this, but I I'll talk my head. I can't think of one. Really. I've seen a couple names thrown out there, but I don't. I don't know. I really don't know. It's on my no, I'm joking. What about you? Do you have a name in mind?

Speaker 2:

The girl from. I'm going to butcher her name. It's like Adrena or Adria Like Adrena. She's like the girl that Did you watch Hitman with Glenn Powell.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think I know what you're talking about or Andor. Andor, yeah, star Wars star wars TV show no what's happening with you right now?

Speaker 2:

I'm not a star wars guy.

Speaker 1:

I'm really not a star wars guy.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you break my heart every day yeah, hitman, like the, the main girl in there she's, she's fine, but also she's like she's not that tall but she's got like some stature to her. You know, she, she's like, she just seems like a badass, that that screams it for me.

Speaker 1:

I think that's what makes it hard as fan casting for me. Who's really that big? Wonder Woman is a massive person. I think Ronda Rousey is kind of big.

Speaker 2:

I feel like yeah, but you can play with it. The real hard part is, unlike a lot of these dudes, you can pad up the Superman costume. Wonder Woman doesn't have to pad. She has, like her war fit. But like her she's got to be tall, you know.

Speaker 1:

So it'll be very noticeable if she isn't um I mean I was a fan of uh gal gadot's her outfit. I wish it was like a little bit brighter, which I hope they. After seeing supergirl's outfit in this movie, I have faith they're gonna do a very, a very comic book accurate outfit for a Superwoman.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll have it down, but you know anybody? You just got to have someone who can hold their own. You got to have somebody next to Superman that you can be like. She can take him, and that's going to be hard to find, but they'll take their time and get it right for us.

Speaker 1:

That being said, about the suits, I kind of hope we get a gray and blue Batman suit now.

Speaker 2:

Bring it to me, dude, you're on to something. I think the best way to do Batman in this iteration is to move away from the tonality of the other one. I like the Batality of the other one, like I like the bat flag suit, like that dark black, matte gray like that. Like him bulky, but a really interesting bad man would have that that blue in there too.

Speaker 1:

So well, to be fair, bat flick did have it in um flash flashpoint, the last flash movie um my whole heart, yeah that's probably why I forgot about like he doesn't wear like gray and blue suit in there too, but I want a brighter blue, you know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how bright actually, because he's for the night like adam west bright kind of, actually, I want to see him pull it off, okay, yeah, yeah, um, I feel like maybe if they can do some cameos, like it's like bruce is watching a play or so I see a cartoon or something like that, like where it's like their world has adaptation of adam west, kind of thing, you know, um, are you seeing superman twice, right? Yep, are you gonna go a third time?

Speaker 2:

um, yes, if I have time, for sure, like hey, uh, especially with everything in the theater right now, it's quick, it's two hours, two hours and ten minutes, or something like that. I can escape and watch it again.

Speaker 1:

Two hours. I thought it was very good. I complained a lot about F1. What they could have taken out. I wouldn't say too much of this movie you could take out. We didn't even talk about Bradley Cooper. How did you feel about?

Speaker 2:

it the best of this movie you could take out. We didn't even talk about bradley cooper, like how did you feel about him? Best surprise cameo that was the uh, the once upon a time in hollywood meme of like that was me like that bradley cooper.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly how I said in my head. I was like that guy's so familiar and there was a couple angles like no, that's not him. And then yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, and you know, it made me think about it because james gunn notoriously for better for worse loves working with the same people. Like that's why you have nathan uh in here like in such a big role. But like, yeah, I keep forgetting that he was rocket raccoon, so obviously they spent hella time together and it's like, hey, you want to just pop in record the scene as joe real quick for me very badass.

Speaker 1:

Uh, what about the plot point of making the parents evil? That was kind of insane dude, yeah that was a good like move to throw everybody off yeah, I've seen that one.

Speaker 2:

Um, they, they borrowed that from smallville, funny enough. Um, and I almost forgot that that ever happened. So when I was watching I was like holy, and that was like the perfect foil too, because everyone's like, oh, it's doctored, it's blah blah. And lex was like actually we went, I went there to go find something that would help us destroy him.

Speaker 1:

His parents did it for me like damn, that was kind of a bar how about the fact that, like when the world found out about his parents how quick they were to turn on this man?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's you know. Like I said, you can kind of nitpick this. I think that's probably one of the few things that I have like a pretty big issue with, only because, listen, the world switches up on people every day Like cancer culture is real, it's, that's hell. So I'm not going to say I don't believe it, but like the people who just watched, like he just saved their life and they're like screw you. That's where I was like all right, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think there's a little bit more nuance and then like well, he has fake fans because, like the second, they found out about lex luther's video. Like we always believed in you, superman, I was like no, you did it.

Speaker 2:

you threw a can in my head. Yeah Trash.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this one was fun.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

This movie was fun all around. Uh, the writing was great. I'm looking forward to the future of the DC. Uh, what'd you get this one out of the time, brandon?

Speaker 1:

Dude, I'm letting recency bias, inflate it. For me I do not care. Giving a solid 8.5 out of 10. I would a thousand percent agree with that. I was gonna give it 8.5 as well. Yeah, the soundtrack was pretty cool, like I was, that was my biggest like worry. Like if james gunn wasn't gonna do it, he didn't do as much as guardians of the galaxy, but there are a couple great songs in this movie yeah, I mean, and that's the point too, I don't need him like.

Speaker 2:

One thing that he famously said that it's so weird but funny to me is for the guardians movies, the scenes that have music he plays. He picks the song first and then writes a scene around it, like that's really interesting. But I don't need everything to be like that. Like I like mr terrific needle drop, go crazy, get back to the movie. Like I I like a better mesh in these types of films that I mean just the score alone from the superman music.

Speaker 1:

It was fantastic in this movie yeah great movie. Uh, I don't even know what's coming out next week, do you?

Speaker 2:

um the movie that I told you that I wasn't gonna go see. I know what you did last summer.

Speaker 1:

Uh, yeah, I'm probably gonna watch it and I'll talk about it at least, but we'll figure out what they're gonna do I might go see it, I might.

Speaker 2:

I can't be pressured.

Speaker 1:

I traveled next week, so we can also talk about john cena's new movie on prime. Then, like uh oh, dude, it's on my list to watch this week actually okay, okay, yeah, we'll talk about it, we'll play it and maybe we'll play a couple games like that. Um, brandon, I hope to see you soon. Uh, we can definitely. I mean, I feel like the movies from an out super good movies. From here on out we're gonna compare to superman now absolutely.

Speaker 2:

This is the talent center in the honestly and I guess the last piece of this is the more successful this movie is, the more the box office wins. Like, if this does well, obviously more people are going to be excited to see fantastic four. Those people are going to be able to see like other movies, because just being in the theater watching the trailers you can get someone else's like hype up for something else. Like this is what winning looks like I think we covered superman pretty well.

Speaker 1:

I mean, there's more stuff coming out every day about it. We'll probably catch some more stuff as we see it. Um, so we'll probably revisit superman, like as the episodes few episodes coming up. Uh, brady, we want to give a movie recommendation for tonight um, I should always be prepared for this tonight.

Speaker 2:

Well, join us watch the uh john cena movie. Uh, in preparation, just in case we talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Uh, yeah, that's my pick that's good for it, because I'm in a DC movie, I would say the first Christopher Nolan Batman movie. Batman Begins yeah, total opposite tone of this movie, but it was pretty sick, but that's what makes it good thanks for listening and subscribe to our letterboxes, instagrams, all that stuff. We'll be saving the seat next week.

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