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Fantastic Four: The Return of Marvel's First Family
When Marvel announced yet another Fantastic Four reboot, skepticism ran high. After all, the team has had a rocky cinematic history. But this fresh take on Marvel's First Family is a welcome surprise that breathes new life into these classic characters by skipping the tired origin story completely.
Set in an alternate 1960s universe, we meet the team four years after gaining their powers. They're established heroes, scientists, and celebrities – complete with merchandise, branding, and public adoration. This lived-in world immediately feels more authentic than previous adaptations. The retro aesthetic perfectly captures the spirit of the original comics while giving the film a distinctive visual identity separate from the main MCU.
What truly elevates this adaptation is the stellar cast and their genuine family chemistry. Pedro Pascal brings unexpected depth to Reed Richards, portraying him as a brilliant scientist whose analytical mind sometimes puts him at odds with his humanity. Vanessa Kirby's Sue Storm emerges as the team's true leader – diplomatic, powerful, and the glue holding everyone together. Joseph Quinn reinvents Johnny Storm as more scientifically minded while maintaining his playful spirit, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach's Thing serves as the emotional anchor beyond just his super strength.
The introduction of Franklin Richards creates genuine emotional stakes when Galactus threatens Earth. Ralph Ineson's terrifying vocal performance and the visualization of the planet-eater's enormous scale create a cosmic threat unlike anything in previous Marvel films. Meanwhile, Julia Garner's Silver Surfer brings fascinating complexity through her interactions with Johnny Storm.
While the film emphasizes science and problem-solving over traditional superhero action (which might disappoint some viewers), it succeeds by presenting the Fantastic Four as scientists first and superheroes second. This approach, combined with Paul Walter Hauser's scene-stealing Mole Man and a tantalizing Doctor Doom tease, has reignited excitement for these characters' future in Marvel's cinematic landscape.
Have you seen the Fantastic Four yet? Share your thoughts and join the conversation about Marvel's First Family's triumphant return to the big screen!
excuse me, is anybody sitting here? Sorry, this needs to take him. Sorry, this definitely has to be probably my most anticipated movie of the summer and now that we're here, I was like it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 2:I don't know. You know what I'm instead of being sad that it's over, I'm happy that it happened, yeah well, I'm still living it happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, I'm still living it. I've seen it two times, fantastic Four two times now and I have plans to go see it a third time.
Speaker 2:I've only seen it once so far, but yeah, even back when we were trying to figure out which one we were most excited for, obviously I had Superman, you had this.
Speaker 1:And seeing your story that you already went back was cracking up. Man, I love it. Yeah, because you have to see it opening night. You have to. And, uh, my brother couldn't see it opening night, so I went with him the second night and um, same thing with some friends. I'm gonna go see a third time with them sometime this week. Um, I'm not mad about it at all. I love this movie. We're gonna get dive deep into like every little thing about it. There are some criticisms I have, but like they're very minor. Um, and we're gonna go talk dive deep into like every little thing about it. There are some criticisms I have, but like they're very minor. Um, and we're going to go talk all different things. They merge. We're going to talk about the casting, um, behind the scenes stuff, and, to top it all off, I think we're going to finish with talking about, um, happy Gilmore and the second half of this podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Two completely different movies. Vibes are always high.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm, I've seen it happy get more once last night and I'm trying to see it again, honestly, like probably right after this podcast. Okay, all right. Yeah, that's that beautiful thing about when these releases happen on streaming. You just click into it and we're good to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah and we talked a lot last week about um. Movies are made better when there's traits of streaming or they know how to cater to the streaming audience better. Now, and I think this is going to be definitely one of them that we're going to talk about how it's better at home, watching it at home, versus going to the theaters and watch this one. Do you think if happy Gilmore two was released in theaters, would it have a chance competing against fantastic four?
Speaker 2:No, not at all, and I think they know that. So definitely a smart decision there.
Speaker 1:There was a movie that released the same day and that's Dave Franco's new movie Together. I believe it's called. It's a body horror movie. I haven't seen it yet, but I've been hearing good things about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the strategic piece of it right, like if you know this is going to be catered to the families and kids and you know all those people that the opposite side of that are, you know people who maybe don't want that. They can go watch a little horror flick and still enjoy their time at the movies as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, there's always something for everybody in the. I still haven't seen Eddington. That's still on my list. Same thing as Superman. Same thing as Superman. There was all different kind of ages and people in this audience. I've seen older people come by themselves. I've seen young people with young kids come by. It was a great experience altogether.
Speaker 1:We've been talking about this movie for months now leading up to it. This is the first introduction to the MCU. It's the first time over 10 years since the fantastic four is the big screen. It's a brand new cast. Um, for those who don't know, I'll just be the obit, not the obituary, the description forced to balance the roles as heroes. As heroes with the strength of their family bond, the fantastic four must defend earth from ravenous space. God called galactus and his magnetic herald the silver server. So this is the third adaptation that has been released in theaters. Um, and I was watching the blue carpet early this week and everyone looked like they had fun with it, paid like the casting. The cast themselves seemed like they're really enjoying their roles, just like superman was. Um, have you been seeing things like people bashing the interviewers like uh, lately on the fantastic four press?
Speaker 2:um, I'm not really. I see people like praising, like the same amount, but um, no, no, what are they saying? So it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not about the actors themselves. They're getting asked like very shitty questions, but like they're not getting questions by journalists, or instead of getting questioned by like um uh, what do you want to call uh influencers and stuff like that on tiktok, oh yeah, yeah, I did see, uh, the guy who plays the thing, uh iban.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, when he came in there and he was like what's up influencers? Like to the group.
Speaker 1:I know that they that's kind of the route they went for this press junket but, like you can totally tell, they just usually either chat jbt to ask what questions they ask or they they just generally suck at interviews like it's. It's interesting because I didn't experience that at all with superman. I think superman definitely won in that category because all the interviews are great, all their press tours went great. I've been seeing some of their cast and this one touring the podcast I I listened to. Vanessa Kirby was unhappy, sad, confused. Very great interview. Yeah, um Pedro Pascal. He's just everywhere All summer is so busy from just touring press alone. Um, and the other two, like Yvonne and um Joseph, they they're I don't know, did they? I don't know? I like watching them interview together. They're pretty fun together.
Speaker 2:And it shows on screen that's what I was going to say. When they pair them up, like you can kind of tell Same thing for Pedro and Vanessa, like they obviously are together for their interview. So that part of it works for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And, like I said, they're all loving their characters. They love being a part of it. Vanessa Kirby on that, they love being a part of it. Vanessa kirby and that podcast speaks very highly about the character itself. I think I know she's from the crown and a few other things.
Speaker 1:I never really knew any of her work, um, and just hearing her talk about like her excitement for the role and what she brought to the role and the difference we're going to talk, dive deep into their characters in a little bit, because this movie is just like it's not original but it is original. I feel like we've never seen these takes on these characters before. Uh, we definitely see the more the science side on this part. It's not really as action-packed as some of the other marvels films are, which is one of the complaints a lot of people have. But honestly, like, and one of the biggest complaints is about the thing. Like people wish the thing had a bigger role, bigger things to do. In this one, his whole thing is being strong and punching the shit out of people. You can't really do that with galactus and him, you know, but they did utilize his other strengths in this movie, like his his. To me he gave, like uncle joey from full house vibes in this movie I love that.
Speaker 2:I uh, I think the the one complaint that I hear a lot, especially when it comes to the thing. It's like they wanted to see that you know body like issue again, which I think I'm fine with. Like we're four years deep. He's obviously still going to struggle with it. They show, they've alluded to it, like you know, with the flashback of how he used to look versus this one. You know he's already in the dating world, so I think I'm OK with you know where his character is already. But they also had him have some key moments. He was the pilot of the ship, you know, like they depended on him and like when I talked about getting things ready, like to me he was just the doer of the group Anytime, like like a real, like it got down to business, they were like yo, let's get her done.
Speaker 1:So this is also like, not an origin story, but like it's they. So this is also like, not an origin story, but like it's they're four years deep into being superheroes and I'm sure in the beginning he was like self-conscious about his body and stuff like that. But at this point of his life you do see him comfortable Like. You see him like handling cookies with great care. Like you can tell him he's definitely managed his body in this one. He's kind of just learned to accept it. Yeah, he does get down sometimes you just gotta keep on moving, like I. If I was seeing him to press about his body again in this movie, I kind of might be a little bit disappointed. I was like we're doing that again. I thought we were skipping all this origin stuff. Um, but no, I love this character, this role, like as a supportive role. Like he said he's the pilot. He even gave birth to franklin in this movie. Um, he's showing, and not only like it's the first family of Marvel. You can really tell they're just a great team together too because, like when they're brainstorming ideas how to fight Galactus, they're all bouncing, throwing off ideas Like what if we do this or that? You know, I love that.
Speaker 1:I love that scene inside of Johnny and the thing really liked in the portrayals in the last couple movies. They, especially the Miles Teller's one Um, I don't think that guy wasn't even a scientist, he was just doing a. Retold him to do the entire time um the original fantastic four. Yeah, he was a good pilot, it's kind of, and then uh, but that's all you saw of him. You don't really see him do anything else besides like cry about his disinformed um. So it's definitely original. Take on that alone. Like I like the idea of not doing origin story four years deep in it, like I said, and they just truly, these characters truly embrace their celebrity style. Like they, everything is fantastic for all the shirts, all the logos, all the cars. They even named the kitchen fantastic kitchen or something like that that's the big thing about this.
Speaker 2:Like obviously, you know, getting out of the origin, it feels very lived in, like I, I feel like I picked up where, uh, we were supposed to every interaction. Like with that, you know that this team's been together forever. Like you're not doubting any of the relationships, like it feels very warm and fun and safe and challenging, like that's what I.
Speaker 1:It feels like a family definitely, definitely, and um and uh. This world also takes place not in the RMCU world. This is off world, this is a different universe. What a great idea, because you can just make anything. You can make anything your reality. And it's because it's a different universe. They don't have to go out to explain anything. Or the idea of just the Baxter building we don't have to fit that in somewhere. They don't have to build that from scratch. It's already there and existing. Just the backs are building like. We don't have to fit that in somewhere. They don't have to build that from scratch. It's already there and existing. It's on top of that, it's.
Speaker 2:This is set in the 60s, if I'm not mistaken yeah and well, and with that too, it's like you again. You don't have to talk about incidents that already happen. You don't have to worry about where you know where was iron man during this.
Speaker 1:So like, where was this? Like?
Speaker 2:uh, all that fun stuff, I know. When they were evacuating the city like I was thinking I wonder what you know the punisher is doing right now. He's like in the city but obviously you don't like it. It clears the road for you to just focus on the story.
Speaker 1:It feels like a standalone, like a true standalone movie I bet you that's exactly what the eternals wanted for it to be. This movie they had a chance to do it, but like yeah, they said the entire time like where the fuck is, captain america, or when, like the giant's face being eternal, came looking face to face with earth um, somebody else would probably like dr strange lives across the street.
Speaker 2:He's definitely stepping in at this point and you know that's like the big uh big thing, you know where we are with marvel 2. This is what movie 34 or something like that, 35. So we're like so deep into this. Everything feels like homework, like you don't have to have, you know, read.
Speaker 1:You don't have to watch three tv shows and two movies to catch up, you just get dropped in and you're good to go yeah, um, I have not watched the new york new rock stars movie uh video about this yet, but I'm sure there's a ton of Easter eggs that I'm missing. But before we get into all like all the movie stuff like keep, where you just jumped in, heads in, but how was your theater experience? Very excited, man.
Speaker 2:How was your theater experience it was? It was really good. It was really good, similar to you opening night. I hated this. I actually had to change my time multiple times because I thought Danny was coming home. I thought I had my movie buddy, and then I was like you know what it's 630 movie starts at 7. I'm buying ticket just doing the solo journey and it was almost impossible. Thankfully there was only like three open seats in my theater but got to go full packed. People clapped when that first like Marvel thing topped up, like it's that feeling. I'm like we're back like we're I hate, you know that phrase.
Speaker 2:We're back, we're in it, you know, and people are really excited to watch a good marvel movie, and I'm and you know, my theater was very receptive to it. What about you?
Speaker 1:so I did not go to amc this time, um, mostly because on thursday nights opening nights for these imax movies they have weird times it's either three o'clock in the afternoon or 9 pm and I can't make it. I'm not gonna do one of those um, so I went to imagine instead, um to my buddies. I like going there for the big martin, especially the longer movies. It's more comfortable seating um, but I did not have a receptive audience like you. Like there's not that much clapping and mostly what it was like people start to clap and they saw no one else clapping so they just got kind of embarrassed to stop clapping, kind of thing. Everyone, just like I think they wanted the clap, they just did it. Um, but for the most part everyone. The coolest thing at these marvel things is no one gets up at the end of the movie like everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no one, not a single person got up, which is very cool, that's the good part about going opening night, because it's the true nerds or the people who know what to do.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of surprised with Superman releasing on a Tuesday. They didn't do the same thing for the Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2:Shocked, Shocked. I literally, I think, on Tuesday night. I knew that it probably wouldn't be on Tuesday, but I was like there has to be an early release on Wednesday.
Speaker 1:They did one for, like drastic world, but this is why I don't like that. There's no rhyme or reason, right? Um, last time we talked oh, before we go any further, uh, you mentioned your buddy movie watching buddy danny. Um, this is his birthday recently, right? Yeah, on friday birthday, happy birthday, danny shot him on the podcast, the big three. Oh yeah, oh, geez, he's been on the podcast before he did, uh, the leonardo caprio movie with me. Uh, killing of the flower moon, or something like that, oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, he did that movie with me.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, three. Oh man, I've been calling myself 30 even though I'm 29. Like I'm just right there, so I might as well just start calling myself man, we're getting old uh, speaking of being 30 year old, um, I'm 30 years old and I'm still buying these cool ass popcorn buckets. I know we talked about, uh, last episode you buying one, did you get one?
Speaker 2:no, because I was running late, like I wanted to surprise you by having like the big one, um, but ran into the theater, grabbed my little sticker, uh, and there was a long ass line for the popcorns. I was like I'm just here to watch today, but you got a long ass line for the popcorns. I was like I'm just here to watch today.
Speaker 1:But you got a dope ass. Fantastic Four shirt on today.
Speaker 2:Hey, is it just blue?
Speaker 1:with a four logo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little plain one, but that's kind of what I liked about it, because I have, like these light blue Jordans that match with it, so I was like that's my fit right there.
Speaker 1:So they do have that in the show, in the movie, like a plain white shirt, blue shirt with like a four logo on it, and even the thing had like a long sleeve that maybe it looked tough All it was that long sleeves. Yeah, cool, like I want to go buy it, like I'll, especially after seeing the movie. All my TikTok shop is just like Fantastic Four t-shirts, merch. I did buy a Fantastic Four popcorn bucket.
Speaker 1:I posted on my story and I and I know I saw you saw it right away. It's like damn, I wasn't gonna post it, but this is. I got this one at imagine. It's a simple popcorn bucket. It's shaped like a regular popcorn bucket but it has, like the, all their characters and based on. I'll post a video so people get a better view it. But the bottom is mr fantastic the thing human torch, and then on top it's the visible woman.
Speaker 1:The cool thing about this bucket is that you can twist it and take them apart so each layer comes out, if you want to. The only thing I didn't like about it it comes apart real easily. It came apart almost like knocking stuff out when I was eating popcorn. This is also the first popcorn bucket. I actually let them put popcorn in and I ate all the popcorn. Okay, usually I don't do that because I don't want to mess it up, but you christened it I. I yeah, yeah, but I made sure I didn't get butter in it because I want to fuck it up. Um, but I thought you could reorganize. I thought you could reorganize these into different, like the human torso, the bottom or something like that, but no, they don't fit that way. So I don't know really what the point is of them separating like that yeah, no, that's uh, I just love that.
Speaker 1:The invisible woman is just, it's just clear, clear yeah, I'm gonna put a logo on that I also am kind of disappointed in the way it feels, the way it looks like. I thought it was like a more leathery kind of like, kind of like the superman movie ones. Yeah, feel to it. It's just hard plastic. I don't know where it really was. I'll expect something different. Okay, um, okay, I loved it. Like I said, this is the first time ever I ate popcorn out of a popcorn bucket that I bought and necked it. I necked that whole thing, dude. The end of the movie, it was all gone um, what's your?
Speaker 2:uh, I know we talked about this. What's your go-to pairing with popcorn?
Speaker 1:um, I usually only get pink lemonade at the uh coca-cola fountain things okay, we've definitely never talked about this before, because that's diabolical.
Speaker 2:No, pink lemonade and popcorn is a everything.
Speaker 1:If I don't get popcorn, I still get the pink lemonade that guy, either pink lemonade or every once in a long while, do the orange, I see, but I don't really. I don't like doing coke or or like soda, like in that in the theater, like that. I just feel like I'm sitting in Greece almost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, what I?
Speaker 1:wrote once in a long long while I will enjoy a slushy like mixing them up, but that's kind of. That's all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's if I'm treating myself yeah.
Speaker 1:That's mostly if, like I have been doing, um, I did also surprise, like I've done, very well not posting this for you to see it, but I I did get the herbie popcorn bucket this thing.
Speaker 2:Stop it right now. That's crazy this thing, lift it up lift it up a little more for us this thing is massive.
Speaker 1:I love this thing.
Speaker 1:I'm not posting that specifically for this is hilarious, because I know I'm gonna keep it I know I did post a TikTok of it and maybe like 20 minutes before start recording Because I knew you weren't going to see it in time. But for those who don't know, it's a popcorn bucket that is shaped and modeled exactly off of Herbie from the robot In the Fantastic Four movie. The cool thing about this you open up his chest and it's a little apartment for his candy and his backpack in the back. You open it up this whole thing back here. You can put popcorn all the way to the bottom with popcorn in there.
Speaker 2:But the only thing I don't like about it I was like, practically, how are you eating out of that?
Speaker 1:thing I don't know either. It's an all in one because also this lid comes off, you can put your soda in there. Stop it. And his head is the drink thing. It's an all-in-one because also this lid comes off, you can put your soda in there, stop it.
Speaker 2:And his head is the drink. Thing.
Speaker 1:It has a slot for a straw on the top, but either they didn't come with it or they just didn't give it to me Cause I don't have one, which is weird, like it's not a big deal. I can find a straw like any size it's. It doesn't give it to me because I don't have one, which is weird, like it's not a big deal. I can find a straw like any size it's. It doesn't stop there, brandon, it does not stop there. He has two eyes. I don't know if you can hear this. It plays the fantastic four theme logo. That's baller also. If you hit the other eye, you can't really see it in the light, but it does project, um, the fantastic four logo.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna okay, I see it glowing a little bit.
Speaker 1:All right it's. This thing is massive. Um and I know we mentioned the galactus popcorn bucket too I was gonna go buy that one. I let me tell you the story about this. This is wild. I was gonna go buy it and get both of them, actually, because I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna spend money. The only reason I'm comfortable with spending money on these popcorn buckets is because I don't foresee myself wanting any other pocket or the rest of the year. You know what I mean. So I was like you know what, let me just ball out in these ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go crazy.
Speaker 1:And the Galactus one came out the same day. They only released on Thursday. I work Thursday and I get off I can. By the time I get to a theater it's like four, 30. So two 30 comes like let me call the one I'm going to go to to make sure they even have it, cause sometimes they don't have the bigger ones. I call them. They said yeah, we have it, but they're selling out, so I'll get here quick. I was like damn, I can window. So of course, like I get off, there's a bunch of construction. This is horrible. Traffic probably adds an extra 10 minutes to my drive. Oh, get there, they're sold out of the galactus bucket. I was like son of a bitch. They sold out like wrong.
Speaker 1:When I first called, I was like damn it. So I had been herbie and I can't complain because this one is probably the better one, just because it has all the actual features to it. The other galactus one, it was just big and the light eyes lit up, lit up. Uh, I have no idea where I would have put that thing. I'm still gonna, if I come across it, I'm probably still gonna buy it, but uh, this herbie one, I don't know what I'm gonna do with either two, but the cool thing is like it can sit on the floor and just look cool that's what I'm saying, dude.
Speaker 2:That like it being a popcorn bucket is like the fifth coolest thing about it.
Speaker 1:Like it is a dope, yeah, um, there are other cool popcorn buckets out there, like there's one of the fantastic car, which is very cool. I'm not a big fan of the car.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did it for thunderbolts. They also did it for um, a couple other movies. Yeah, with, the whole top of the car comes off and that's just kind of lame to you, but the car itself look cool. I'll give it that. Um, yeah, I'm excited, I'm super happy with this purchase. I can make a couple cool videos over it after this. But uh, yeah, I thought I tried so hard not to post it to surprise you with it that is.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you did that. That is so I. I love every everything about that. I, I, my thoma, was going through the roof and like I wish you would post it, because then I would have had to just double down and get something crazy because that that'd be cool.
Speaker 1:I thought about getting another one the same thing and raffling it off for the podcast, but um, I ain't got money like that. I don't want to tell you how much I spent on this, because it was. It was more. It was just as much as the galactus one. Oh no, I asked them if they're gonna get more and they said no. They only said the one box, which is like nine of them in there. I was that's it, that's all you had to sell was nine. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2:Alright, you know they said I am the opposite of you. I did not get. All I got was my free. It was free but it came with the movie. They gave us these this fantastic four like patch kit, which is kind of dope. So you know, I just gotta figure out what I want, to patch it onto see.
Speaker 1:I'm jealous of that because I didn't get that, I well, I also didn't go to an amc yeah, yeah, I saw it like I.
Speaker 2:I was surprised they gave it to me because it was technically for a 3d event that they were hosting. But they had a box of them. They say you want to see fantastic four handed me that in my ticket. I I was like let's go Hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you a physical ticket guy?
Speaker 2:I try to be dude. It's on my phone, especially as an A-lister. You just keep it pushing and sometimes I don't know if this happens to you no one's there and I'm not going to the counter. I know where my seat is.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I want to be, yeah, same thing like I like doing, like keeping them for keepsake. Um, there we go, yeah, and so, like you know, like the a-listers, it's all on our phone now. Um, yeah, sometimes the people aren't there and they just expect to go check in at the front, like the concession counter.
Speaker 2:I was like that's very trusting well, I, I tried doing like a uh, I'll see if I can see it. I have like one of those portable printers that you can make stickers out of. I like make my own, like I just print out the QR code, like I'm leaving here with something, so I try to just have something for each of them that's awesome.
Speaker 1:I like that. That's cool. Let's go into the movie before the movie started. Actually, after all the trailers and after, like, the amc trailer and everything like that, where movies you know? Uh, where, what's her name? Um nc spock nicole kidman nicole kidman after her video. That's usually when the movie starts, but it wasn't with the case with this one. It was um. The trailer for avatar 3 dude.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, in real time. Sorry, that just hyped me up in real time. I wanted to take out my phone and and text you because I was like this is such a like a random experience and I was like I that's why I wish I went with someone else, because my theater was. That was the one thing I'll say. They were not as hyped on that as I was, like they just thought it was a normal trailer and I was like we're getting the first look right here, especially because I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1:That was pretty cool. That was very cool. They did the same thing with Odyssey during Jurassic World, but this one hit different because it's a full-length trailer. Versus Odyssey it was like a little clip. What do you think about it? Are you excited to see it?
Speaker 2:Does it look cool or are you just kind of over it? Hell yeah, I don't like love those as much as like everybody else, but I think they're cool and I think they're like an event type movie and I really enjoyed the last one, like it was. I'm not a 3d guy, don't like it not, not here for it best movie I've ever seen in 3d. Like felt like it was like what they did with it.
Speaker 1:Like was, was I went to see it twice in 3d Um.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I was pretty. I was just waiting for, like them, it's obviously called fire and ash and I was like I know they're going to be red, I'm just waiting to see it. And when they finally came at the end of the trailer, I was like that shit's dope.
Speaker 1:That's cool. They did a really good job about making it look like you're in that world. It's pretty sick. I love that. How did?
Speaker 2:you like the trailer.
Speaker 1:I liked it a lot. It was cool. It was long Again. I think you just get the whole concept of the whole movie. It looks like they go to a new nation. Something happens with the kids. The rest of the movie is them trying to rescue the kids, Kind of like the second one. It's been a minute since I've seen that one too, so I gotta rewatch them before it comes out. And then the movie just starts Like it starts with like nothing dramatic, it's just like like a regular day read Richard and Sue storm, or in the bathroom I was like I talked to my is this, it Is this starting and it was pretty cool. It was very interesting that way and like it's very interesting out the movie announcing that they're pregnant with Franklin. This is also the first ever time Franklin Richard, Franklin Reed has been in the movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, and to that point too, like I know, we both really started trying to avoid as many TV spots that was happening. But in the first trailer, like obviously that's the one, like the big thing that stuck out, and I was like man, that's like you know, that's kind of a big spoiler, like that they just put that in there, very happy to see it happens in the first five minutes. Like it kind of put me at ease. I was like all right, there's a lot about this movie that I don't actually know yet.
Speaker 1:Um, so way to set the tone, and this movie takes the span of maybe like 10, 11 months. It's kind of crazy because you see, from first finding out she's pregnant and then she gives birth, and then the he's already tolerated by the end of the movie. So it's it's kind of wild to see how long this movie was. That being said, I do think it was well-paced throughout the whole time. I didn't really check my time. It's only like less than two hours, if not more. Yeah, it did not feel like that. It felt very long to me, which is in a good way, in a good way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean even to that point, like I know this is like some one 55, I think Superman was like two oh three, Like I did leave Superman wanting like more this.
Speaker 1:But I was like perfect.
Speaker 2:And the right one. It needed to.
Speaker 1:Like felt very, very good about the pacing and like yeah and yeah and then, like it cuts to the marvel logo, which is not a traditional marvel marvel logo. I don't know if you notice that it's. You know it's usually like uh clips from other movies to spell out the world marvel. This one just has the blue and white version.
Speaker 2:Um, like the old school retro way well, I've noticed that like that's the new thing. Um then, like I think it's been that way since phase four, I first, or at least since uh, new World, and it pissed me off in Brave New World because it was like black and white oh yeah. But then with Thunderbolts it was different in a good way, like I forgot what it was, but I liked it. And then this one I was like all right, like retro.
Speaker 2:Like all right, I can get behind this part. And there was one, I think it was just animated. Oh, I think it was just animated. Oh yeah, I think that was Thunderbolt, I think it was animated, so I I don't like that.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you're going to, if you're going to change it, I would rather you change it back to the original way with the comics.
Speaker 2:That's what I yeah, I see I'm split. I my hard stances. I wish it was all the regular Marvel one. That was my personal preference, but I do appreciate. All right, if we're going to change it, at least it matched the vibe or tone of the movie. Like I do kind of like as long as the Marvel logo is still there, because and this is really selfish I love a good title card Like that's like what I wait for, like that's my snap, like I time it. So that throws me off when like that one's different, but I do like it aesthetically it looks cool.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna lie this one, it is pretty tough, it is. It fits the theme a lot. Um, I mean it is modeled off of, like a cinema, a famous cinema theater in hollywood, one of the paramount studios, or maybe a wonder boat something, excuse me, something like that. Um, so it does have meaning behind it too, and we let's go down the whole casting looks because, well, there we'll start with our goods about this movie and I don't know if you have any complaints, but I do have a couple of complaints, not any complaints, but like things I wish I would seen a little bit better. But, uh, any doubts I had about this casting all went away within like the first 20 minutes, within the first 10 minutes. I would say it was such good casting with every single one of these characters.
Speaker 1:Everyone's biggest concern about Pedro Pascal is that he's too old to play this and he's everywhere at the same time right now, let's say most of the time. You could definitely tell it's Pedro Pascal acting in this movie, like it's Pedro Pascal basically in any other role. This one, I feel like he does embody Reed Richard a little bit more. He does talk a little bit different in this movie. His body movements are a little bit different to the point where it's almost creepy to some people. Have you even seen that going around?
Speaker 2:It's like, oh, that's what acting is, huh yeah.
Speaker 1:Vanessa Kirby. Like I said, I wasn't too familiar with her work. I just I was biased just off her looks, but she looked a lot like susan storm, um, but what she brought to the table with it was so great she definitely stood out out of the whole four, out of all four of them, which I think she was supposed to a little bit. I think it was declared that she is the leader of the fantastic four. Um, johnny storm played by, uh, joseph quinn.
Speaker 1:Biggest concern, I was biggest one I was worried about mostly because the hair everyone is gonna hate him. The hair like his blonde. It was obviously not his real hair, uh, but once you're watching the movie you don't even really notice it that different, you know it just like it's who he is and he takes such a different turn on the character. Instead of being a ladies man and not really and more care about the fame and stuff like that, he still likes the fame because he does play with toys or points out the toys that he gets. Um, but, like I said, you do see a lot of more of the science side of his. You see him be the one who puts the plan together at the end, basically when that whole silver surfer scene with him. You know, he, he does bring a lot to the table. And, same thing with the thing a lot of people say he didn't have enough to do with it. But, like I said, I don't know how much you want him to do to fight galactus, like he can't punch his way out of that. But so they emphasize his other strength.
Speaker 1:Like you see him as a scientist, you see him as a pilot, you see him as an uncle, uh, he's definitely there's, there's glue holding this family together and it takes all of them to put that glue in. And the biggest one I think that helps that glue is herbie. Like it's someone that helps them all in their own ways. Uh, he's like almost like a pet and like a psychic and also like an alexa in a way. Um, silver surfer julia garner fantastic, everyone hated that announcement. Everyone hated the announcement that was gonna be a female silver surfer, didn't even notice it. And on top of that you could add layers to it by having that whole flirting thing with her and johnny throughout the movie. Um, how'd you feel about that? Did you feel like that was kind of like unnecessary? Did you think it added no, I, I it worked for their characters.
Speaker 2:This is the thing that's important. Like even I remember very similar I, when this was announced, I almost like facepalm, because not because I was mad that it was, they were going with the female version, just because I knew the internet's reaction. Like I hate when I can see shit like that coming. But she did this interview and she was like, yeah, people are freaking out, but this is not the Silver Surfer. Everyone knows. If you look in the comics, this is Shia LaBeouf, like and like I, just like, oh yeah, like there is a Silver service. So like, even like being like. No, this is backed up by comics and you know, very similar to you about, uh, joseph quinn, I prefer like the ladies band, you know thing, but to have that where that his first thing is, you know, like just starting to like her. You know I finally find someone who interests me and now I gotta go do this. Like I, I appreciate their connection and it made sense to me yeah, 100, agree with it.
Speaker 1:Um, joseph quinn, I mean he was funny with it too, not like I wouldn't say as funny as chris evans's uh, human torch, but like he was funny in a subtle way, like he kept. He was definitely I wouldn't say serious in the movie. He was definitely light-hearted. He's someone who I can see getting along with tom holland spider-man a lot, which is what everyone wants.
Speaker 2:I saw a meme today and it was like those two talking. It was like I've been to space, have you been? It's like, yeah, I had to fight this big purple alien. Oh, me too. I can absolutely see both of them just chatting it up. I'd pay so much money to be a fly on the wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm also seeing fans wanting um a christmas special with a fantastic four, which I think would be awesome like how we got the gardens of the galaxy holiday special. We can easily do that with this fantastic four being a family. Um, also, it'd be cool. Just do a holiday special with all mcu, like bruce banner gifting gifting, like a Bucky Barnes, like a present or something like that. You know that'd be pretty cool Like a holiday party.
Speaker 2:Avenger style secrets.
Speaker 1:And it'd be as filled in the style of the office. That'd be pretty fun. So, uh, you know who else are we talking about, galactus. So my biggest thing about this movie that I it was hard for me to enjoy is because I somewhat seen a lot of the stuff already in the trailers and all those tv spots and everything like that. I did my best to try to avoid as much as I could, but after a while they just showed a lot and too much at some points and to the point when I was watching this it almost felt like too familiar, like almost like, oh, I've already seen this before. And also, to their credit, they also filmed a lot of stuff for the trailers that was not in the movie. Did you notice that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, so I missed a lot. Thankfully, like I, genuinely I was looking back. I think I saw the first two trailers and I think one teaser, and that was it. The only thing I remember really seeing about galactus is when he was stomping through new york, and then the statue of liberty scene, um so, everything else, like his ship, like his look, uh, the bigger version of him, like that was still during the movie experience.
Speaker 1:So thank god so they did its best about holding off the way galactus looks until like maybe a week ago, a week before the release. But they did do a great job of not showing his voice at all in this movie, which is the biggest reason why this actor let me see his name, ralph Eynson which is the main reason why he was cast in this role is because of his voice and man was his voice intimidating in this movie it echoed, it was huge, like it embodied um galactus in such a cool way and his massive size in the movie too.
Speaker 2:there's a point when you first meet him like they're looking out into space trying to find him, and then his eyes glow up and he's like massive, freaking, incredible um it was so dope and uh, he did an interview where he was like yeah, you like studied natural disasters, like just so I can like like get into the mindset of being like I am terrifying, like I like that's, but like peace, like it's.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it how it is well, that's like how vin diesel did when he voice grew to see that he would walk around on stilts throughout the whole studio just to get in the mindset of being kind of stared at. And then all by, groot is a big tall character, a big gruesome character that people find interesting, and he wanted to get in that mindset too, so he would wear stilts around the studio just talking to people. That's to me that's going a little above and beyond the 2000s.
Speaker 2:He has the job of the century, gets to record three lines and it's played and he can do it from anywhere. It's just I'm still very jealous that he never has to record again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, he does a cool thing He'll record his lines in all different kind of languages. I guess really him, which is sick, yeah, but with that fact being known, could you tell he was walking around on stilts recording his lines? No, no, it sounds the same as iron giant, you know, you don't. Yeah, uh, the silver surfer scenes like we can talk about that, because I was so excited when I seen them. I really want to talk to you about you, um, how she uses her surfboard. She's like really surfing, like these lava and these flames and all this different kind of stuff that we've never really seen before. It makes it like makes sense that she has a surfboard. That you know it's. It's sick, I love it.
Speaker 1:She's surfing the wormhole when they're trying to go through light speed and light she's fast as hell, bro yeah man, I tell you, one time I really gasped like covering my mouth kind of thing is, when she was chasing them to get the franklin when she was pregnant and she sticks like a couple fingers in her stomach to grab it before being pulled away for the last second. But that was intense for me, that one kind of gave me goosebumps a little bit that was the edge of my seat dude.
Speaker 1:That's my standout scene, because I went and he went like straight to like get us out like kill her bro, like we are in danger, absolutely, absolutely yeah, and that scene with her and Johnny, when he's like find out the voice recordings and it kind of learned how to speak our language a little bit. I thought that was very far-fetched. Like this, the only way he has a handful of recordings that he got from space that a message trying to look for the silver server. So then he she translates like one sentence from him, like the smallest sentence, like it's be with the one you love, or something like that, and he's able from that one sentence he was able to like dissect, like the figure out the entire language and even learn how to speak it himself, learn how to say her name, right, it's like ain't no way, ain't no way.
Speaker 2:From that one sentence so you know spoiler for a whole nother thing project hell mary has a very similar uh thing that happens.
Speaker 2:So I'm kind of like I think I was a little bit more receptive to it. But yeah, I was like they probably could have done more, especially because you have like reed in the building. Like if reed would have done it I wouldn't have blinked twice. But maybe because it was johnny and like the technology that they had available, I was like I, I, I get it like it's just right over the realm of what I'm willing to believe yeah, yeah, you make a good point.
Speaker 1:Reed kind of figured it out, I would not doubt it at all, but I think they needed something for johnny to do like he. Yeah, he helped design the new spacesuits and everything like that. Um, but that was a cool moment. That was a cool moment, it was it was, and that's the thing it was.
Speaker 2:Because it paid off so quickly and so impactfully, I kind of let it slide like that. We kind of just you know, linkedin wished our way to that, to that resolution even ben, like giving him kudos like johnny.
Speaker 1:That was amazing. You know, that was a very cool scene alone, just to hear them say that. Um, I do want to go back to sue storm though, because I think in the beginning of the movie it's talked way over like her accomplishment, accomplishments as accomplishments, as sue storm was glossed over. And I don't think, no, the world, if the movie audience knows this, but like the world in this world, is kind of at peace right now, all because of Sue Storm, like she convinced everyone to give up their armies, all the countries, which is never unheard of.
Speaker 2:It's very. It's like a different version of the UK and if you take that and again, not to keep comparing this to Superman, but like there's like literal world conflict going on, that he's just one dude trying to, like you know, resolve. She's like the respect that she has alone and just like how she talks to people. You, you feel it immediately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then for this movie to be like ah, she's just the mom now, you know like it's kind of wild. I would like to see a little bit more as a world leader.
Speaker 2:That'd be I think that was the thing. I think like, uh, because the scene where you know she was like oh, before you go on maternity leave or like whatever, like. I think that that's what I appreciate about her. She doesn't have to be hands-on and like everything, she just like, like, she just has that aura that you know she's not doing the nitty-gritty work, she's just like all right, you like, come on and people are all right, you're right she's.
Speaker 1:She was fantastic in this movie. Um, this is the best way to describe this movie. It's fantastic. You know it's very on the nose, but she definitely stood out. Like I said, she was more the leader role. She has a great monologue in the middle of the movie when she was trying to convince this is a spoiler alert, but convincing the public to like this is my son and I'm not going to give him up, but I'm also not going to let you guys down.
Speaker 2:That was a great monologue, would you say I'm not going to sacrifice my son for the world, but I'm not going to sacrifice the world, but I'm not gonna sacrifice the world for my son. I was like, I literally was like almost tearing up. I was like, damn, it's a bar, yeah yeah, and then from her impact.
Speaker 1:Well, the way she uses the powers too is incredible. Like I know they in that happy second fuse podcast I mentioned. They do dive deep in how she would move. Like she tried being original. She didn't want it to be like scarlet witch with her movements in her hands and like her whole body like that, but it's kind of hard not to, because they're very similar in the way they use them, but the way they physically make it look like she's bending light or you can really see the energy force around them. It was awesome to see, like especially the end where she's given it her all and then see all that light fixture it's I didn't know how to describe it, but it was amazing. It was breathtaking.
Speaker 1:Um, her invisible. You don't really see her herself turn invisible a lot. Besides, when she appears in the bed with ben as a joke, it's just scary. It was awesome, like easily with, uh, jessica alba's version, you kind of seen some outline of her at least I know she's there. That was cool. They did that and she's also. We see her strength on making the whole ship be invisible a couple times.
Speaker 2:I love that like and I've obviously we've seen this before but like having that ability to transform everything around you is like so and like she does a good job of shuttling, like the power level of it. It's not like she's doing this with ease, you know, even like some things like that just like takes a little bit and it just kind of adds that extra later and then see like where she's even able to do it while giving birth insane, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know our, our go-to. I don't remember anything about the invisible woman from the miles tyler one, but the jessica alba version. They definitely use her more as like a play, like a joke, like to sexualize her a little bit. Uh, because there's scenes where she comes up in her bra and you know stuff like that. And this one she definitely was more of a scientist, she was more of a mom, she was more of a leader in this movie. Um, she was the hero at the end of it, the main hero that won everything. Now this is where the negatives come into play. That is also one of the negatives that I kind of have, and most of the internet has too that she, the third, the second half of the movie kind of falls off a little bit. It was.
Speaker 1:It didn't keep up as the first half okay and that scene where it was sue the one to kind of like go hulk mode when she sees her baby in trouble, which is cool, I get it, but for her to be she's seeing almost single-handedly took down galactus, I would say, besides like so I feel very strongly about this.
Speaker 2:Okay, she didn't take down galactus like all she did was push this mother at her, yeah, 100 feet, you know, like it wasn't like, like you said with the thing, it wasn't like this big punch out or like she defeated him. All she did was move him like from one space to another, which is her power set. So in that environment that's the whole point of having people with different powers she, actually she didn't even do that because he came right back. It actually took something else to defeat him.
Speaker 1:Um, so it didn't bother me, it didn't bother me one bit it kind of bothered me a little bit, uh, and also you know, what bothered me is um, I guess there's a limit on how much pedro pascal's mr fantastic can stretch in this movie.
Speaker 1:I didn't like that, yeah, because it wasn't that far. Like you see him stretch throughout the whole movie a little bit, and besides also I didn't really care for, like all you do is see him like stretch his arm or legs, something like that. You like you don't really see him do too much more than that, but he does get stretched out almost like the point where it's tearing. It looks like and it wasn't that crazy, it was nothing crazy yeah, it wasn't foreign.
Speaker 2:I think that's my issue with that one. It wasn't far enough and not for nothing, and maybe this is just how the scene was going.
Speaker 2:He, he started to be in pain too quickly from I like it like he got stretched and then it was like oh no, like well, I'm like, dude, you've got to. You must have tested this for your scientists. Like it doesn't. It's not like doing that hurts so, especially if it's elastic. I get like if he would have done that at the end, maybe, but I was just like all right, that's. That was an interesting choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially seeing the original one, like in the original Silver Surfer movie where he stretched over the save affairs wheel I don't know if you remember that. Yeah, he was not far this long. Yeah, and seeing, like Johnny, I don't know the plan to get away from Galactus. It was too simple for me a little bit. Let's just put prongs around the whole globe and I'll zap us away. And I was like there's too many variables, there's too many things that I'm like is the moon gonna come with you guys? That's gonna change a lot of things on earth, like how far you're gonna be away from the sun. That's gonna change a ton of stuff. They did say it's within like two percent margins, like the differences, but like there's still too many questions like is it? This has never been tested on the planet. You know, like I'm kind of nervous about this myself.
Speaker 2:I think I needed a scene and maybe this is crazy where he teleported a human. I think that's what I was missing, because from going from I guess I know he said organic, but I know going from an egg to the world was a little bit too big of a jump Like I do wish that there was like watch us do this building first, Right. Or watch us do like this environment let's take the Statue of Liberty and put it in Paris, you know. And then I would have been like all right, we feel confident about this. But yeah, that was really, really bold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they also had to convince the entire planet to like go along with this plan, like to shut off the power for a little bit.
Speaker 2:I was that part made sense to me for two distinct reasons. One, because what we just talked about with sue, we're at peace like everyone's at least on the same page with. Like we've shown that we can get to an agreement. Two, if we don't do it, the world's ending tomorrow. Y'all choose so like there's not too much. What are you arguing about? Don't give me the supplies, don't get this done and you can fight next week, but like we have a three-day hold on you not being alive anymore.
Speaker 1:That's a pretty good motivator to work together but I was also thinking about, like, what about hospitals, or what about this and that you know? So that needs power. Um, I'm sure there are some exceptions, I don't. They don't really hold dive deep into that.
Speaker 2:That was just also, which is fine actually, the more that I would have learned about it, the more I probably got annoyed. Keep it general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't explain it for me. I'm looking too much deep into it. Um, how'd you feel about the things, things, my beard I, I didn't bother me.
Speaker 2:I thought it was funny, it didn't bother me I thought it was cool.
Speaker 1:Like, I guess not cool enough, because it's like no, zero the promotions or anything like that. Yeah, um, or zero like the toys, or or even like fortnite skin by the way, I will come back to fortnite skins because I'm excited to talk about that um, but what I liked most about this movie is, um, you did constantly feel a sense of danger throughout the whole movie. Like there are moments in the movie where you are not sure he can pull this off if galactus is gonna win, because the trailers definitely portray that. Like, and especially the ending of thunderbolts. Um, you think they are going to destroy their world and that's why they're going to come to our world. Um, so the whole time, like, you're thinking like, oh man, like are they really going to be able to pull it?
Speaker 2:off. How's it gonna happen? 100, yeah, that was my exact thing and you know a positive and a negative for me. Um was the actual threat of Galactus. Like the moment. First off, I love the let's go talk to him, like I don't know some of that didn't work.
Speaker 2:That worked for me, and not even like the spoiler part. But when we do see what Galactus can do, they were like we're not going to win, like I appreciate the not, like there's hope we are not going to beat this. We actually have to go. My real, actual nitpick that I could not fathom why it happened is when Mr Fantastic told the world what the tradeoff would be Like. Why would you tell them that it was so stupid? I'm like this is the smartest guy in the world, like you know what the reaction to that's going to be. Like you did, you could have kept that one close to the vest.
Speaker 1:Page of Pascal was, I think, my favorite performance in that scene. Those scenes alone, like when they pulled up to that planet. You see Galactus, that's his first introduction to them. Is him coming out of a planet eating it? Um, and you see page, all like the most scared out of all them, like he was, like he couldn't believe what he saw.
Speaker 2:Um, he definitely brings a lot of character like the more serious side to um, mr fantastic and that's the thing about him too, like, uh, in the comics, like you know, even the first one actually like the original mr fantastic, a little bit more charisma, but like the thing is he's a dick because he like is so practical and you see that they explore that in this movie. But, like you saw, the moment that happened, his wheels are turning like he's already doing the math on survival. He's very he takes everything seriously like he has. Like that is what I really appreciate about what pedro brought to this.
Speaker 1:I I really felt that like non-malicious thought process, like he's very locked in, so I kind of almost disagree, like I don't see him being a dick a lot in this movie.
Speaker 1:But I think that mostly has to do with they are mostly interacting amongst themselves in this movie with the phone you don't you don't really see him talking to anybody else and obviously, yeah, he does have seen it with um, with sue, about like discussing possibly giving up the baby. Um, he's kind of a dick in that in the way of he was just talking out loud saying what's ethical and stuff like that. But I, other than that, like I I wish he got a little bit more snippier with the tv reporters and stuff like that and um, yeah, well, I think that's.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean when I say me I'm a dick. Like how you know, the vanessa kirby miss uh visible woman. She is very like don't you dare go down that train of thought. But like it was very clear in the movie. He's done that, he already knows like and he and he stands his ground on there. Obviously he like concedes to her uh, but he's like at the end of the day, like we, this is our only option like.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that they didn't shy away from that part um, let's talk about this character, paul walker, paul walter hauser, who plays mole man. In the beginning of the movie it does showcase like where they, how they got to this point in their lives and one of the thing was defeating mole man and you see him for a brief moment. I was like oh man, is that it like?
Speaker 2:I wanted to see more of him and he does come back a couple times in the movie and he's hilarious he is, so he is in a completely different movie and typically that like will piss me off or like throw me out of it and I love this dude. Did you ever watch the show Cobra Kai?
Speaker 2:no, I have not, he's like a big part of there, like just this dude's goofiness and he fits and I love that. Like when it got announced that he was going to be in the movie I was watching Jeremy Johnson, he made the joke like the collective internet was like that's mole man, I just know it when you see it and very similar. When I first thought I was like, oh man, he must have like done somebody a favor and came on set for the day. That's almost a waste, but happy to see he was in way more of the movie than I thought oh yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 1:This is another thing. Like I said, like it's a different universe so you can throw anything in there, and the fact that he has a whole city to himself underground. There's no way that would get away like who the city's just okay with having on the ground, like, yeah, that's yours, you can have that in a way. But my favorite joke from him throughout the movie was to johnny. He just fucking took a shot on for no reason, like johnny white looks.
Speaker 2:So, man, I didn't dress you, he just took a shot at him for no reason, absolutely owns every scene.
Speaker 1:He's in a big, big, big shout out to uh paul yeah, all right, so now let's talk about the end credit scenes. Were you surprised to see? This is a big spoiler, but I'll put the spoiler in the description. Um, were you surprised to see event dr do?
Speaker 2:get collective. This is why I like going to open at night Collective gas from my theater and then, like the cut, we were like what? Like the murmurs, as like the rest of the credits I had. No, I maybe should have saw that coming. No concept, great, very happy to happen. I'm stressed. It was also kind of interesting to like see them fast forward four years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was strange you gotta think the time from the movie and the end credit scene. I feel like that time of their lives is probably paradise. Like you already defeated galactus, that was like the hardest thing you ever had to do and everyone's like.
Speaker 2:You were already beloved and now you just like shut, like doubled down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's probably gonna be the best time of our lives. That being said, you know they learn about Franklin's powers and stuff like that. So this is theories that there's. This is how the Avengers doomsday is going to start, cause also, the next Avengers movie, or next Marvel movie itself, is going to be Avengers doomsday, right.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And that's also like next December right.
Speaker 2:December yeah.
Speaker 1:That's insane. We have to wait a long-ass time. I mean there are going to be several shows that come out between then, but I kind of doubt anything has to do with the movies. It was awesome. The end credit scene was cool. Like the very very end one sucked.
Speaker 2:I hated it like the very, very end one sucked. I hated it. It was lame. They could do something better. It was. I feel so strongly about this, so I'm not gonna get mad if you knew because I don't know if you thought this that it would be the thing that leads them to get to where we see them in thunderbolts. I'm not a huge fan of like they. They know that people are sitting in the theater waiting right like. They know that this is like. That was almost like. How do we drum up disappointment? So that's how I felt about that that the last true end credit scene it probably would have been better if they swapped them.
Speaker 1:I would say yes, yeah, 100, yeah, 100 yeah, that didn't make any sense to me I totally want to go see it again. The next day, on the friday, I told my brother like let's just go, we don't have to wait for this one. Like I told him what it was, I was like, yeah, you don't have to save the friend sit for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that, like like a short episode, like a real episode on disney plus or something you know yeah, yeah, there's like a there's, I'm, and I don't even mind the gag ones, like I remember I think it was like Ant-Man and the Wasp, where Antony was playing the drums. All right, that one was my favorite. One that was kind of a waste was the Captain America. When it's just like patience, that one was funny. When it's for a bit, I can almost understand, but this one I was just like you just went from introducing the stakes and freaking everybody out and now you just went for this Hell out of here.
Speaker 1:I wish you would have done a Mole man, one that would have been sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have been very okay with that.
Speaker 1:I mean it's kind of hard because, like, I don't think we're going to see this world again, I really don't think we're going to see this world again.
Speaker 2:Like I think it's going to problem because, similar to you, if Doomsday is the next movie, you got to pack a lot in the how do we get there At least with this? Is where my issue is. Going from Ragnarok to Infinity War, it's the same scene. Ragnarok ends with them on the ship. Infinity War is when Thanos them on the ship. Infinity wars is when thanos is attacking the ship. It is a very 1a, 1b and now, like thanos is here the stakes, you don't need any catch-up. It like goes here what the hell are they gonna do for doomsday? Like, obviously take the scene where with franklin, but it's just I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little stressed. I'm a little stressed also, you know, robert downey jr has been releasing comic books on his story and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I'm a little stressed, rob. I'm a little stressed. Also, you know, robert Downey Jr has been releasing comic books on his story and stuff like that. And Thunderbolts ended with a whole dispute about the name of the Avengers. I think they are going to introduce the West Coast Avengers that way. Like you know what, you have your own Avengers, we'll have our own. Yeah, I can see that something like that happening. Yeah, I can see that something like that happening. Yeah, they are going to pick up with the scene of Franklin. But we also got to remember Monica Rambeau is too, and also is a different universe too. So we've got to connect that universe somehow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got to come back. It's going to be a lot. It is going to be a lot and I mean I do trust the Rooster Brothers that they are the ones who can do it. Also, the directing scheiffer for this movie is that's the name right matt chef, matt shackman sorry, um, and the rooster brothers are totally different styles. It's gonna be a shock, cultural shock, when we go from the fantastic world to our world on the darker scene, almost yeah, but I'm okay with that because as long as, like, like I said, if it gets us in the same plane.
Speaker 2:But all right, here's another question for you how long is doomsday be?
Speaker 1:I think close to three hours is what they said.
Speaker 2:Really Okay. It can't be less than two and a half, there's no person.
Speaker 1:Also, like you, are going to have to change the Fantastic Four uniform because it works in their uniform, because it's all bright and stuff like that when you come to ours like.
Speaker 2:You see how Endgame was shot. It was so dark and gloomy, which it was supposed to because it was a dark time. Um, you all they typically have like tactical outfits I can see them doing that, but I like man, I like the white and blue, like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is, I love it, especially johnny's especially johnny's because, like he has the lines in his, in his like uh silhouette like in the comics looks fucking amazing. Which brings me to fortnite. As soon as that became available for the skins, I bought all four of them it I love playing that so much three thousand d bucks later, dude I, uh.
Speaker 2:I was out last weekend. I traveled as we talked about about. Got home, cyborg was in the shop. I was like hell yeah they can't get any better than this. And then I got home from the movie and I saw that and I was like what? So I bought the thing, just cause.
Speaker 1:I had to choose. I went with the thing I think the Human Torch, probably my favorite to play, cause you can turn on and off his flames. Which to play? Because you can turn on and off his flames, which is sick, alright, you can mention me between the skins, these popcorn buckets. I spent over 100 bucks on merch alone and I didn't buy any shirts. Yet there's some stuff I do want to buy. Still, what would you give us?
Speaker 2:1 out of 10 um, so originally I'm gonna I'm gonna increase my score because just I've sat with it and I like it. I think I'm gonna give it a solid eight out of ten you know what?
Speaker 1:I was gonna raise mine too, because I wasn't gonna be 7.5, and then I raised it 10 after talking about it with you. Yeah, um, we don't have a whole lot of time left. Let's squeeze in a quick review for the happy gilmore two on netflix streaming right now. Um, big fan of the first one. It's probably my top three of his Adam Sandler's movies. I just watched it a couple days ago to prepare for it. I've seen it with my boy, glenn this. I'm not a big fan of movies that come out with sequels like 10 plus years later, but this one was a close fit. This one was the closest to make me did. It was as close as to make me love it as much as I could. What was your initial reaction to it?
Speaker 2:yeah, I dude, I enjoyed it and it. And it feels so shady because there are movies that were out on nitpick and I'll like be like, ah, this plot point, like you know, like really get into it. I didn't care, man, I was cracking up, obviously. I watched it with Dave and all our friends who were coming to visit this morning.
Speaker 1:And we had a blast watching it. So, I mean, this whole movie is nothing but cameos, which is cool, which is cool. I loved it. This is a spoiler for this movie as well. I was shocked as hell when they killed off the wife within the first three minutes. That was crazy. Yeah, because she's in the press, she's touring with them and everything is like totally got me fooled. Um, and he has kids in this movie, which I was kind of worried.
Speaker 1:That kind of softens the character a lot usually, uh, and changes it differently. I wish almost that they filmed it the exact same way as happy gilmore, like the editing style and stuff like that, how it's more full body shots versus close-ups and all that. Um, I wish they explored doing that a little bit more. But times have changed with the camera work and stuff. Um, I didn't buy happy adam slyer's happy gilmore for most of this movie. It to me it felt like grown-ups, it felt like a lot is of it almost like felt like himself in real life too at some points. It wasn't until he was on screen with shooter mcgaver where, like this is happy gilmore. Now we're back like it's that scene in the cemetery alone with him fighting, like that definitely felt like happy gilmore. You know he's that took me right to it from there on the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2:He definitely um, it was great for me yeah, I think that was like oddly enough and I don't want to say because they were going like the serious route I guess you can call it with like the death of his wife and the drinking and stuff. I I was having fun but I was just like all right, like he was getting back into it. It was like right, maybe like the last half hour of the movie where it found it found itself like I think that's where the goofiness and like all the everything kind of worked for me and that's. You know, they landed the plane.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I mentioned those cameos, a lot of cameos. It's also also a lot of his boys just coming back from his you know previous, with the exception, I think Kevin James is the only one I didn't notice. Do you see? He's coming out with that new fucking uh movie where he's like a badass.
Speaker 2:Uh, kind of like nobody kind of movie kevin james I thought that was a parody.
Speaker 1:No, I'm pretty sure yeah, okay, so anyways, uh, that's probably where he was at in this movie. Um, with the exception, he brought in a lot of new actors, mostly from snl, like a big celebrity names like Travis Kelsey that SNL trio. That was the most jarring for me and also every single golfer and announcer you see in this movie are real golfers and real announcers what's the one who got arrested in Kentucky's name?
Speaker 2:I already forgot it. I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's funny in the movie. I was like what's the one who got arrested in kentucky's name? I already forgot it I know he's talking about. Yeah, he, he's funny in the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like that was the one. It just led the most credibility to me. I was like, oh, what the hell. And he's like in the movie.
Speaker 1:I was like also the guy who plays his old caddy. He's a real golfer too. I can't remember his name, but zach something.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you know all these kids in this movie. They're so funny and he also has a golf legend there, like the one he's sitting at the round table with. What I like most about this movie too like you do see gaps between 96 and now, like some updates and like that, but what I like most about it he's happy Gilmore did come to appreciate the golf, the game of golf, because, like he mentioned, like yeah, those guys are my friends, like talking about old, old school golfers, I was like that was cool to see him really come accept this character as a golfer even like the scene when they're all like sitting with their, uh, golden jackets.
Speaker 2:I was like that's kind of dope, like I did, I did like that. But, um, you know the the plot of and I got it like the little douchey guy him saying like you built this, you know, like we're just following your rebellion, like that makes sense Like like you would obviously assume that he would be aligned with this, but the line of like my, my wife liked golf just the way it was and she was right about everything. Like I was like yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Like they did a really good job with the character motivation my favorite favorite, one of my favorite jokes in the movie is like when he hits a good hit and the audience is cheering like hey, come hit this beer bong. It's like, uh, you're hitting a beer, hit this beer. Uh, chug, he's. No, I don't drink beer, no more. But then someone offers him coffee in a cup of the box of joe donuts bro.
Speaker 2:I was like I, that's what I mean, and the guy like all the bits worked for me for the most part him drinking out of like every random object was so funny to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was cracking up that scene. I was cracking up with a scene with um, he couldn't get his car started, so he starts beating the shit out of his car and then all of his kids start beating it up. You man, I, I like I said I didn't think I was going to like the kids at all. I was like they're going to be, they're going to nerf him. But they were all funny in this movie. They're just a bunch of idiots. And his daughter replaces real daughter. Her character is cool. She was like the whole reason of the movie, like she was the reason she got back into the golf, which is cool.
Speaker 2:Um, the villain, his wife was in here as well yeah, who plays the ballet coach.
Speaker 1:His other daughter was a girl from the aa meetings. Um, there's a bunch like uh, I think travis kelsey's dad also makes an appearance in this movie too, as one of the guys in the gold jackets rav.
Speaker 2:Travis Kelsey is my standout cameo. I don't know why everything he was doing in this movie was correct, like Danny was killing me with the when the guy kept saying that. Like that's what she said and no one was laughing at Travis, you're killing it, man, like what I. It worked.
Speaker 1:I thought he was going to be more in the movie than what he was, but he was good in it. I was way shocked to see Bad Bunny as much as we did in this movie. I was like Bad.
Speaker 2:Bunny is collected, he's going to be like Snoop Dogg level of like lore. Like this man is from WWE, it's like popping off in this.
Speaker 1:Like all right man, go for it. He was also supposed to be in a sony spider-man villain movie too. A lot of people oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was supposed to be um. Why am I blanking on?
Speaker 1:it yeah thankfully that got canceled I mean I would like to see him in that. I mean I don't like to see sony do that, but I like that role.
Speaker 2:They're, they're villain universes.
Speaker 1:So bad bunny was hilarious in the movie and then when you think about it, like it's almost a cheat code to get big, big names like that, like him and Travis Kelsey and some of these other stars, like the reason it's funny is because you don't see Bad Bunny doing that stuff. You don't see Bad Bunny chugging beer like that.
Speaker 2:That's what makes it funny exactly same thing, like to kind of tone down like Travis Kelsey and make him like the waiter, but then, like the touchdown celebration had me dying, like I, I like it. The one that really got me out like I don't, I don't know where is Margaret. Margaret Qualley was like playing golf and I was like that's Oscar nominee, like from the song Margaret Qualley, what the hell is she doing? She's being goofy, and that's the thing too. I was like setting up one of my buddies is like adam sandler has like another movie with netflix. It's like, yeah, man, this is best. John and lauren, he gets to create these movies. They pay him millions of dollars and he gets to do them with his friends in a way that is still entertaining. And like watching all of these like they're just probably people that he owed favorites to or wanted to be part of it. It worked man.
Speaker 1:So after watching the first one I was like I'll be okay, this is the only happy, good mark. I've just seen this one. I was glad I got it. Now, after watching it, I kind of want more that kind of really that kind of makes me mad that I want more.
Speaker 1:You know, I wish the villain was a little bit different. I don't like the villain has been like a totally different league of like competing against the golf association or whatever they're called. Um, I kind of wish it was just a younger kid who was like tired of these older guys coming around, which he kind of was. But, um, to come up with a whole different style of golf was this is kind of wild to me I, as you may or may not know this, I am a mini golf aficionado.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got a crazy mini golf game um, especially because you know I work in the arcade industry.
Speaker 2:Um so I ate up all of that, like there's a lot of moments like, oh, that's, that's really fun, that's really interesting. The only thing that, like I really couldn't, really couldn't vibe with was the idea that they would ever accept this on their turf, because the problem is they were like all right if we win, like this event is dead. However, win or lose, because you just made it legitimate by adding like all these people, I'm the viewership for this just got.
Speaker 1:No, I want to go check out where it was exploding, like that's's what I want to see, yeah, yeah, and it's a one, one from the. Either way, I wish it was just like a young, like a traditional golf, like a young golfers talking shit, like one of the real golfers. And then I mean it was cool seeing him on screen again with shooting McGavin. I don't like how they did his character, making him clinically insane in the movie. I was like I, I don't buy that. To me that was more like qb halloween kind of humor that they did that to him. Um, it would have been cool like he was like more than respected one, like he would like kind of like his relationship with like, um, uh, maverick and goose kind of thing you know not maverick and goose, maverick and ice man, you know kind of thing like they hate each other but he is still like at the top of his game, like even if they would have had shooter but they couldn't.
Speaker 2:Just the way that he went out on the first one. They put themselves in a box there, you know they couldn't then flash forward to.
Speaker 1:He's like running the the league now they could have, they could have, they could have.
Speaker 2:It's been 30 years, brandon, like there's, he could have had a tackle for stealing his, his coat, brody, and then mob beat him up that way. He would never live that down. Yeah, you can't live down getting beat up by a mob for acting like a crazy person but it was cool to see him team up at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no it felt real.
Speaker 2:And then when he hits that shot, like I'm rooting for him, like I had a genuine like smile on my face when that happened.
Speaker 1:Well, like when he put his hand into the trigger, I was like oh, like, let's go, dude chubbs's sons in this movie who's played by a real life comedian I can't remember his name, but he's. I like his work. I've seen his handstands before. Um, totally obviously I was just holding a fake hand in the sleeve like his arms, like way longer. I thought at the end for sure it was going to be a joke. Like he has his hand the whole time, he's just like holding that hand. That would have been a funny joke.
Speaker 1:Also, it's something I predicted that didn't happen when I was watching with my friend Glenn in the beginning, where Happy Gilmore is trying to get into his happy place and he talks to his dead wife and she gets cut off when she's like happy, you're not a? Um, a hockey player, you're a golfer. But it cuts out after guh and I told him I bet you he's gonna have that conversation later with him, but it's gonna say like good father instead of golfer or something yeah, I thought that they were gonna circle back to that, um, but yeah, that's fine that.
Speaker 2:That would have been hilarious.
Speaker 1:I would have ate that up this movie had a lot of things that shouldn't work on paper, but it does work. It is so funny. It was a lot of fun. That's what this movie was about. That's what the first one was about. It was ridiculous, it was goofy, they relied heavily on cameos, but it somehow worked. The nostalgia was there. Eminem was in this movie too.
Speaker 2:It had a prolonged scene. They definitely hammed it up with him too, but, like similar to you, I could. I could not explain in a logical way why this movie works, but it does, and I'm glad it does in 2025, just as much as it did in 1996 yeah, I mean I can't wait to go see it again.
Speaker 1:Would you think this movie would be as receptive as it came on theaters?
Speaker 2:no man, no, no, because I think that's like the thing, like I said. Uh, similarly about like heads of state, it's something about watching it in my house that lowers the stakes if I'm paying 15 bones for it. I think I would have had a little bit of a different mindset. And there's like no like for the comedy, for sure, but it's not like it was shot to be in movies, like it was just like a.
Speaker 1:It's just a good, it's just a fun movie I I think I was talking to a co-worker about this movie, um, during the week and I was like, yeah, happy, good, more two is coming out, and like, yeah, maybe I'll check it out. I was like, but it's not coming out in theaters, you stream it home, like, oh, then, yeah, I'll definitely check it out so exactly.
Speaker 1:They definitely got a lot of viewerships. Adam Sandler is I don't know. I think Netflix got him in a chokehold or something like that. He's only doing movies for Netflix now.
Speaker 2:Well, they got him in a. I think he's found like a $200 million six movie.
Speaker 1:Deal with them which has to be number six, right Like he had huge Halloween he had, he could have quietly renewed like man, man, we making money, let's do it.
Speaker 1:On top of that, he's still touring too. Um, he loves bad bunny in this movie. He's very friendly with the interview, so I'm hoping we see a lot of more bad bunny in his movies. Um, someone told me that they think bad bunny might just retire from you. Not nothing about retire, but like slow down the music. A lot to do acting, but they talked about like he was working on the album during this movie. So like, like he's not going to slow down music anytime soon.
Speaker 2:No, he just looks like a man with a lot of passions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's doing that huge Puerto Rico tour now, so I mean he's got a lot on his plate, which is good for him. I liked him. He was funny. It was my favorite parts of this movie. Um, a lot of funny by seeing all the names in this movie. Like I said, every golfer and every announcer in this movie was a real person and I think that's fun for them too, because they got families, they got friends. To see them in a Happy Gilmore movie too, that'd be sick. I'm going to see my boy in there. Yeah, what would you give this?
Speaker 2:movie one out of ten. See, it's hard to rate this one. I can't say I'll give it a seven, man I was thinking the same thing guy, I can't give it any higher after I just talked about fantastic four a different type of movie but yeah, a solid, solid seven works for me yeah, yeah, was it worth the 30 year wait?
Speaker 1:did we need this? No, um, am I happy we got it? Hell yeah, um, I'm definitely gonna go watch it again tonight, probably. Yeah, probably with my mom she hasn. Hell yeah, I'm definitely going to go watch it again tonight, probably. Yeah, probably with my mom. She hasn't seen this yet. I'm definitely recommending this movie to everybody. I see now Big nostalgia for Ben Stiller. If they could remake another movie of his that they haven't done yet which would you want to see?
Speaker 2:Oh, great question. Just because I love the first one so much, I can do another Grown Ups. Oh, you would have a third Grown Ups. I'd do a third Grown Ups because I would like to see all the new comedians and I think there's something that could work there.
Speaker 1:I think that is really in the works, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if it's rumors or what I would love that.
Speaker 2:That would be. Yeah, I could have fun with that. What about you?
Speaker 1:I mean there's so many like Bobby Boucher and water boy. I don't know why I said click Click isn't one of them. Nevermind Good movie, though. I think there was talks of don't mess with the Zohan, too, coming out too. Really, I don't know what happened to that Andy Samberg, get them. Really I don't know what happened to that one. Andy Samberg, get him in here, andy Samberg, don't mess with Zohan Daddy's Boy. No, you know what? My hands down all-time favorite, adam Sandler movie is the. Wedding Singer.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:That'll be interesting to see, that I can see them just do and just go with it too. Blended Maybe, another Blended movie, oh, blended to, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Blended maybe another blended movie. Oh, blended, blended for sure, uh, but anything with jennifer anderson, throw it back in here.
Speaker 1:I'm good to go, yeah, uh do you see jennifer anderson's coming out with the? Uh, I believe it's a tv show based off the jeanette mccurdy's book um yeah, my mom's the mom right yeah, yeah, I wonder if jean's going to play the daughter.
Speaker 2:That's got to be like super traumatizing.
Speaker 1:I have the book. I've not read it though.
Speaker 2:Like imagine, dude, yeah, man Cause, like obviously there's going to be like some monologues, or like when her mom was like going off on her and it's like all right, take 37 of the worst day of your life, like that would be pretty pretty. I don't know why she would sprint to do that, but whatever probably getting paid big bucks.
Speaker 1:All she'll probably do is sold right now.
Speaker 2:Pronounce you chuck and larry. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1:Another dude okay, a lot of people joke because it is a silly movie in the movie, but it also has such a great acting scene that I love and I reference a lot. It's the scene where, um, they're firefighters in the movie. They're rescuing somebody who's trying to break in through like a chimney or something like that, and the guy's laser sticking out. They have a fantastic argument. That was so believable and it was so great for actors in such a way and for them to add some humor at the very end of it Fantastic. I loved it it. I don't think that scene gets enough credit as it deserves. Hell yeah, next week. What else is coming out for the month of July? I can't remember off the top of my head. Eddington is still on my list. Together is still on my list. There's a movie coming out for sure next week that I wanted to see, but we haven't talked about it. We might have a guest on next week. We'll see.
Speaker 2:How many more times are you gonna see fantastic four? At least one more. I mean, dan are gonna go see it later tonight. Um, probably one. Yeah, I think I might actually have two if my movie buddy comes back in town, uh, on tuesday.
Speaker 1:So I'll probably go see that again, nice, yeah, I'm gonna go see it at least one more time, like so, there is a movie coming out that I cannot think of on top of my head, but, um, we'll figure it out. Uh, I've been posting a lot more on the tiktok, like I said, so keep an eye out for the tiktoks. We do post clips of the episodes. Um, brandon, you can close this out with a movie recommendation I think we already gave one.
Speaker 2:Go, go watch happy g, gilmore 2. And if you haven't seen the first one, perfect double feature. It's only going to take about four hours. Throw it out in the background and then pay attention to the second one. That's going to be a great night for you.
Speaker 1:And I would watch it soon, because I think I just saw that Happy Gilmore the first one is leaving Netflix soon.
Speaker 2:It got that sticker on there now oh, yeah, yeah, that's your call to action. Go sprint and do it all right, thanks for listening.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned, we're next week. We'll be saving Bye.
