Welcome to the Mormon Medium Podcast, where we'll talk about spirituality, the paranormal, religion, and my journey in becoming a Mormon medium. I'm Nanette Wride. Thanks for listening. Now let's go have some fun. welcome to the Mormon Medium Podcast. We are your hosts, Brad and Nan, and today we're gonna talk about some kind of pretty cool stuff. It's the 4th of July,
Brad:We always talk about kind of pretty cool stuff.
Nannette:Um, yeah, that gratitude's a big deal. It's my catch fries. You
Brad:pretty cool stuff.
Nannette:Fuck you, Brad.
Brad:all right. I love your pretty cool stuff. No, look, today's the 4th of July. Happy 4th of July. Everyone, if you are listening in the United States, and if you're not, um, happy 4th of July, to those of you who. Or not.
Nannette:Either way, it's Happy Independence Day. So today we're gonna talk about grief and gratitude. We've kind of had a interesting week, and with it being the 4th of July, um, there's lots to be grateful for.
Brad:There's lots to be grateful for. And it's kind of a weird combination though, right? Because the gratitude actually crosses over into the grief. There's some gratitude that has to be given there for that grief, right?
Nannette:Oh, definitely. And grief is the equivalent of love. The more you love the heavier your grief seems to be.
Brad:Yeah, I can see that. But let's talk about gratitude first. Oh
Nannette:Oh my gosh, there's so much to be grateful for so much. We live in such a beautiful country of such a beautiful world. So many good people, really good people. And you know, the whole world, everybody is awakening spiritually and they're wanting to grasp ahold of what their purpose is and kind of have some answers about their own spirituality and who they are, and the earth is shifting. It's such a magical time right now.
Brad:It really is. And the great thing about it is it's easier to find your tribe, right? You, you've heard the saying, find your vibe. Find your tribe. But there are so many people who are just looking for something new that it really is a lot easier to connect with people in the real world. Who are not afraid to talk about spirituality or are not afraid to talk about, you know, Huey Wooey bullshit stuff in a very real environment where it's always been a bit of a taboo topic, right? The, the evil pagans.
Nannette:It's true. I think I, I still think that there's those people out there that are afraid to speak about spiritual things, um, because it's Huey Wooey and it's, you know, hippie toy bullshit. Um, you know, the people that are really seeped in religion and they don't understand that religion and spirituality are separate, they're not the same. You can still have your religion and have your spirituality as well. Have whatever religion you want, you know, whatever resonates with your soul and with your heart. Do that, you know, but don't miss out on your heavenly gifts and your ability to be able to use your energy to heal yourself, to be able to communicate with the other side and be able to see each other with our spiritual eyes. I have had a super busy week and, um, I was doing a balance on one of our biggest fans. Her name is Sarah.
Brad:It's a different Sarah than who we had on our
Nannette:Yes, yes. She was letting me know kind of where her journey has taken her, her journey of healing, her journey of spirituality and opening up to things. And it's so cool to see things through someone else's eyes. And, um, she told me that. When she began her journey, she was in tons of pain. she was confused. She didn't know what to do, she was looking for herself. And as she has been balanced, and she does this regularly, she has been able to shift And as you heal, your gifts start to pop open. So she's noticed as she's done her work and she's held her hams, her belief systems, her emotions, remove those beaver dams. She's had her heavenly gifts start to naturally pop open, which. Makes sense because your energy centers are open and that's where your gifts, touch the other side. It's energy and our spirits are energy. Right.
Brad:Right. Well, and I think you said something vital there. It's when she started to show up for herself, because it's not something that I can come to you and say, okay, Nan, fix me. It's something that I have to be actively involved in. Right?
Nannette:Yeah, no, this is not for the faint of heart and I don't do the healing. I'm a conduit. I move energy and I am dang good at it. But I empower you to understand your body and to understand what your body's saying so that your body can heal itself. Your body's the one that does the work, and it's so miraculous and it's so powerful. And once you understand, you know, why your body has put on some extra pounds, or why your body is doing the things that she's doing or he is doing, um, You're empowered to be able to remove those beaver dams and be like, okay, I'm safe. You know, my body can heal itself now, and you will see your ailments just start to fall away. And this is what's happened with Sarah. It, she told me that, um, she was shown a picture and it was an old picture of her, and she says, I remember when that picture was taken because I felt like crap about myself. I hated the way I looked. I hated that picture. And she says, and now I look at that picture, and I love that picture. She's like, I love me. I love my body. I love my soul. I love the work that I've done, and I, I am excited about where my spiritual path is taking me. And that's huge because, you know, she, she can look in the mirror and not hate what she sees coming back at her. And how many of us are that hard on ourselves that we hate what we see?
Brad:Yeah. That's really a big deal. And it's, it's difficult at times, right? Because we always have the world inundating us with how we're supposed to look right. Or what we're supposed to do or act like. but ultimately we're all individuals and we're all going to look and act and have different feelings, and that's okay.
Nannette:That's so, okay. And how boring would this life be if everybody was the same? If we were all just perfect? No, and it's funny cuz our bodies show our journey. They're kind of like the map, you know, for our journey. And additionally, she had talked about, um, she always had issues speaking her truth and being able to express herself and hold her boundaries.
Brad:And
Nannette:Now she's able to speak her truth and hold her boundaries and she can stand up for herself. She said something so interesting, she said, when it is so stormy outside, there's calm inside, and I genuinely love myself.
Brad:That's huge.
Nannette:That's huge. I just, I just love it and I'm so grateful that I get to do this work and I get to stand in these sacred places to help these people be able to heal themselves. Um, so kudos out there to all of you who are showing up for yourselves in every way, shape and form. that's badass. And, you're just grasping onto your power. You're grasping onto your spirituality. Brad, you're just dumping
Brad:Yeah, I am. I'm, I'm like, kudos to you for being able to continue to talk while I spill my drink all over myself.
Nannette:I'm trying to,
Brad:I'm so sorry.
Nannette:Get some content. You're such a mess.
Brad:Oh my hell. I feel like a child.
Nannette:That's like a daily occurrence
Brad:Right? Exactly.
Nannette:So be grateful for your body, for everything it does for you, for your journey. Every one of us have a individual journey, and it's all different,
Brad:even when you're spilling on yourself. No snarky comment. I totally expected something from
Nannette:that. No, because you were gonna edit that part out. No,
Brad:I wasn't cuz I literally was spilling all over myself. And you did such a good job. Not saying anything to be hell is wrong with you. I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for your professionalism, Nan So tell me more about what Sarah said.
Nannette:She says she's our biggest fan. Really? Yeah. Yep. That's cool.
Brad:cool. Cool.
Nannette:Yeah, she's pretty cool.
Brad:She
Nannette:She never misses her podcast. She knows. Pretty much, I, I pretty sure she remembers more about her life than we do.
Brad:do. Well, I am getting older, so that, that does take a toll.
Nannette:but you know what? I am super grateful for our listeners. I'm grateful for my clients. I'm grateful for, um, what I get to do. I mean, this week has been really, Really tough. You know, I've had full week of clients, um, been super, super busy. Each of my clients brought something new and Spirit taught me something new with each of them. And,
Brad:but how awesome is that? That's a great opportunity.
Nannette:It's amazing. And um, it can also be really tough, um, when someone's grieving.
Brad:So tell me a little bit about some of the things you've learned this week.
Nannette:well, I had, um, one client that had gotten food poisoning. Shout out to Daniel. And, um, he had asked me if I would balance him. He was really thinking he would need to go to the hospital and it was so fascinating in his balance. Um, his body took me to formatting. And so let me explain formatting. Um, so when I do these balances, it's kind of like opening a computer and I've said this before and having like a, a heading, and then you get. Subheadings and things underneath it, but it's kind of like the breadcrumbs that lead to the core of the issue. And, um, his body, the very first thing it did was wanted to load parts of his body that are having issues. So it went to his digestive system immediately and, um, like all the details of his digestive system down to his ileocecal valve and, gastric juices and things like that. But it also told me that he was poisoned. By protein and I didn't know what he had eaten. I had no idea. I just knew that he was sicker than a dog. It also talked about, um, him throwing up and him having, so it's coming out both ends. And he, he was in a bad way, but the body led me to all these things to load and I just, I just thought it was fascinating. I mean, this is a remote balance and um,
Brad:I still want to hear more about poisoned by protein. You, you got me there and then you just left it.
Nannette:Well, the body left me there. I had no idea. So when I let Daniel know, Um, where the body had had led him and where this was coming from and how we could heal it. And I mean, we did tons of hydration, um, because, you know, he's got it coming out both ends. He, he needs his electrolytes done, you know, all of the hydration down to the cellular level. He needed help bad, but, um, I, I said, yeah, your body said that you were poisoned by. Protein and he says, oh my gosh, yeah, I got a barbecuer for Father's Day and I was barbecuing some chicken wings and apparently I didn't cook them all the way and I got food poisoning from the chicken wings. It's a hundred percent protein
Brad:Well that's the problem is because it's chicken wings. They're nasty. No, I hate chicken wings. They're just messy to eat. They're, they get all over. No, give me a good,
Nannette:but you know what? Some people like them.
Brad:I, I know. Give me a good chicken tender. I'm fine with that cuz I can cut it with a fork. I can dip it in my sauce
Nannette:And you are a tender, you're a chicken tender. Thank you. You're welcome. And additionally, um, he said that the pain and stuff that he, he was in was a 10. And he was actually thinking of going to the hospital and I told him, um, your body doesn't stay. It needs to go to the hospital. It's gonna get better, I promise. You just need to let yourself purge this poison out of your system. And he said that
Brad:oh, this is the reading that you made throw up.
Nannette:He wasn't. Yeah, when I was,
Brad:Hate
Nannette:you right now. Let me explain. Don't You're such, oh my gosh, Brad. So he was just fine on the phone until I said, your body said that it was poisoned by protein and he immediately started vomiting. Um, like I'm talking, I could hear him vomiting like crazy. He goes, I'm sorry, I'm throwing up. Oh my gosh, I'm just throwing up. You could hear him just puking his gut out and I felt so bad for him, Spirit just kept saying, he just needs to perch this out. He'll be fine. But then he, he texted me later and said he went from a 10 of pain down to a two. And anyway, he says, I was sleeping. I haven't been able to sleep, and I'm just feeling so much better. Thank you. And, um, I just, I stood in reverent awe. Because the body knows, the body knows what it needs to heal. It knows what it needs as a balance. Um, It knew what poisoned it, like such a cool balance and such cool information.
Brad:That's true. Our bodies absolutely know and understand us
Nannette:a thousand percent. Then I had a another person
Brad:but I'm sorry you had to listen to someone throw up. I'd have probably lost it. It's better though than the smell. Like if I smell vomit,
Nannette:You just throw up.
Brad:I'm so done. I am, you're a sympathetic puker. Big time sympathetic puker. That's, you know, that I, I can't smell it. Someone who pukes the dog
Nannette:just wanted to hug him and be like, it's okay. Like, but he's like states and states away. He's a long ways away from me, so, um, but I was on the phone with him while he was doing that. But, you know, the balances are just amazing and they're all different. I, I even had one client, she, she's like,
Brad:Um,
Nannette:single balance you do is completely different. It's just tailored for the person and what's going on. And I'm like, yes. I'm like, I used to when I was a very first balancing people, I used to like have a plan. Okay, they're having low back pain and they're having this, and they're having that. This is what I need to do. And sometimes me trying to fit what I logically think they should have done isn't what they need. I just have to ask the body and the body will drop those breadcrumbs and lead me to exactly what it needs
Brad:it's, it's like an investigation. You have to be objective and just let it flow where it's going to go. You can't, you can't force it into something. It's like somebody who is, is trying to make something happen in their lives by just forcing every little detail into place and nothing's actually ever working out. But they're gonna force it and force it and force it. It, it's never what they need in the end.
Nannette:it never works, does it?
Brad:no, it absolutely doesn't. And it's same thing with your balances, right? If you're trying to. Force it into a little corner. Well, that's probably not the corner it's supposed to go in. And if you just let it flow naturally, then it's gonna tell you exactly where to go. Right?
Nannette:Oh, 100%. I've learned to just not be stressed out about it and just let the body, it's fun to talk to the body. It's fun to be like, did you see her body just said, holy crap. Do you see this? Um, I had a, I had a client, um, yesterday actually that, um, super interesting. Her energy bounces. Um, Let me explain this. Like if you, like, when you run and you feel the blood like coursing through your legs and you, they kind of get bouncy and you can feel the energy and blood just coursing through and gets, um, it gets bouncy and then it gets itchy. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Brad:I've never had that happen.
Nannette:When you're jogging
Brad:felt like the blood, but I never get like
Nannette:b bouncy energy. Oh,
Brad:Maybe I just haven't paid attention to it, but maybe it's because I hate to run. I used to like to
Nannette:You used to run all the time at the police academy and
Brad:because it was my job. I got paid to run and that was okay. That's different. Yeah. And then one day I'm running and I'm like, I think I'm done. I'm gonna go home now. I was like, I, I'm done running cuz my back and my knee. Yeah. I don't love to run. I don't think I ever did. I think it was just something that distracted me during a time that I needed a distraction.
Nannette:Oh, I feel you there. I feel you there. It's like you can escape into your head while you're running.
Brad:Exactly.
Nannette:into your music, right?
Brad:I just escaped in general. That's what I did. So let's talk about,
Nannette:uh, wait. Bouncing energy.
Brad:Bouncing energy. Energy. Yes. I want to hear about the bouncing energy.
Nannette:So, It just kind of feels like a really light tap that goes really fast, um, all over. and I have it too. when I was taking my energy balancing classes, my instructor, she loved how strong I could shoot energy, into the body. And that my energy, the energy that I would put towards the person, it would bounce and. You could feel it go throughout your whole body. So she told me, she's like, get over here. I want you to balance me. Put your hands on my head. You're gonna do a cranial balance and I wanna see how far your energy shoots through my body. And she could feel it go through her head, down her spine, out her legs, and out her feet. And she's like, it's so wild. I haven't ever had anybody. Do that kind of stuff. And I attribute it to, learning energy with the shaman. You know, remember how we were like in a, a dark room and you rub your hands together like 50 times and then pull your hands apart and you can, if your room is dark enough, you can literally see the white strings that go from finger to finger to. Fingertip. It's really fascinating and energy is real. You can see it with your naked eye. But then I learned how to manipulate energy and to push energy and, and so that was before I learned how to do energy balancing. And then when I got into energy balancing, it was just kind of natural. Yeah. To do something like that. So this, the cl my client, she's got that, she's, she's pure magic. I can't wait to help teach her. That's
Brad:awesome. Mm-hmm. Yeah. She's, uh, you're actually mentoring her, right?
Nannette:I'm not mentoring her. She was brand new. I do, um, have some, some students that I mentor, they're coming into their own spiritual gifts. I've got some really amazing psychic medium students. pretty impressive people, and they're just naturals. So it's really fun. Super fun.
Brad:That is awesome. So if somebody wanted to hit you up and be like, Hey Nan, can you help me learn? What would they need to do?
Nannette:Um,, they can go to the link in our notes and get on my calendar. It's the shamanic stuff, where I teach you the spiritual stuff and we go through and we help sharpen up all those clares and help you understand how to use them. Um, you know, for example, empathy. That everybody thinks, oh yeah, and I'm an empath. And it's just, it's, it's such a curse. I feel everybody's stuff, but it's actually a heavenly gift. And if you learn how to use it and learn how to turn it off and turn it on when you want to, and you're in charge of it, then it's an absolute gift and you can. For example, you can go into a meditative state and push your energy clear out to your family members and to everybody, and you can find out if there's something wrong with someone real quick. I call that a tug or a ping. and I know something's wrong right away. but that's your clairsentience, it's your clear feeling. yeah, the spiritual work on the shamanic stuff, it's really fun.
Brad:I love that you do that and you help people come into their own. That's super cool.
Nannette:It's a lot of fun. I, I love, like you said, when you find your vibe, you find your tribe. Yep. It's a thing.
Brad:It it, it's true. It's very true. Well, and and yes, the world is very much craving that right now.
Nannette:It's so
Brad:And I think the world is grieving, right? There's a lot of things going on in the world, like, like Covid really affected everybody and people had to be shut inside and it created this, this unifying grief that. Just traversed the world and brought that vibration down.
Nannette:Yeah, I think people, um, disconnected from one another and they got connected to their phones, which is even worse to disconnect. You know, it's so important. I say this a million times, I know I'm preaching to the choir, but you know, we need to put our phones down and connect with one another
Brad:Unless you're listening, unless you're listening to the Mormon Medium Podcast. And then carry on, please.
Nannette:But you know, everybody is grieving in their own way and there's no wrong way to grieve. Every way you need to is the right way.
Brad:Yeah. And you always hear about the five stages of grief, right? Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. And you know, there are several others that people have added, but that's been kind of that commonly accepted. Phases of grief forever. Right?
Nannette:It's true. And you know, I remember when I was going through my deep grief, I wondered where my anger would come from or when it would show up and it didn't show up for years later. it wasn't one of my first parts of grieving. it was kind of, The stages, but when we're grieving, we have to remember, we're supposed to feel it, let it pass through us, and then release it. And as we release it, we, it's kind of like we have this chain to the other side, and as we release each link of grief, we pull ourself closer to our loved one and our frequency will change and we'll be able to speak to them.
Brad:Interesting. Do you think maybe part of the reason you didn't feel the anger is because you had Cory tell you, Hey, whatever you do, don't be angry?
Nannette:Yes, a hundred percent.
Brad:And so you're like, I can't feel angry. I can't feel angry. Well,
Nannette:because he forgave the guy that shot him. And so I felt like I didn't have a place to be angry at the guy that shot him, because if Corey could forgive him, I needed to, is where I stood, and, and I held that for a couple of
Brad:But it's healthy to be angry at the situation.
Nannette:Oh, yes, definitely. And I, I did experience that, but it took me a couple years. But then when I did, I was, I was raging pissed off for a couple months. Yeah. I was mad. Yeah. Uh, very angry. It was more raging pissed off than just angry.
Brad:Well, and I think one of the things that's good for people to remember is that there's no designated way.
Nannette:way
Brad:To actually go through that process. It, it's not linear, right? It's not, you're going to feel this, this, this, and this in this order. It, it's more like a wagon wheel and you're at the center and you've got all these emotions out, all the way around you, and you can reach out at any time down the spokes of the wagon wheel to feel those certain emotions and. You just have to feel them as they come, and you have to let them flow through and process, like you said, so that you can continue through that journey of grief.
Nannette:It's so important too to be able to fill those things and to release them. And, you know, no matter how you do it, um, you are not dishonoring your loved one by. Being angry or by being forgiving or by missing them so much you can't breathe you're not, you're not dishonoring them whatsoever. That's the process of grieving. It's the process of, of doing things. know that grief is something that we all are gonna have to do. Whether we've lost someone yet or not, we're eventually going to right. And there should be no judgment. And for heaven's sakes, you never get over it. So don't. Don't think when somebody comes up to you and says, oh, I'm so happy you're over it. No,
Brad:it's okay not to be.
Nannette:Yeah. Well, it's not a thing. You don't ever, why would you not be in love with the person that you lost? Like it's not a thing.
Brad:Yeah. Well, like I said, it's, it's, it's okay to not be over it too. Some people think that because they are still grieving that there's something wrong with them, or they see someone else doing it in a different way and they think, oh, I should be like that person. But it, it's okay. You're not that person. But
Nannette:That's true. The key though, pro tip here. Don't get stuck. Don't get stuck in your grief to where you can't dig yourself back out. And if you can't dig yourself out of the depression or you know, the longing or whatever you're in and you're just dark and all you can think about is being alone and, um, you get super depressed, please know that there's help out there. There's people that have been through this and don't get stuck. Um, you have to always be moving forward. I don't care what stage of grief you're in, it's the right stage, but you gotta be moving forward, because this grief will carry next to you. But as the years go on, you just get more accepting. It gets easier to accept and easier to deal with the emotions, the flashbacks, the, the things you know, and then, and that when that happens, that's when you're. Your vibration changes and you can communicate with the other side. You just have a different relationship with the other side.
Brad:Well, and that grief is a really low vibrating emotion. Um, but I think the love balances it out. And helps bring that back up.
Nannette:and the love continues through the veil. When your vibration changes from out of the deep grief, out of the pain, your vibration changes so that you can match. The love and that's when you start to really have fun. You know one last thing I'm gonna say about grief is I've had a couple of clients this week. And I'm not gonna say names, I'm not gonna say circumstances or anything, but the answers that were able to come across the veil that gave them peace were huge. Um, there, there were, um, details that were brought across, um, that. No one else would know, um, except for the person that actually went through it. And, it's just such a sacred place to sit and to be that conduit, for the psychic medium stuff and for the living to be able to heal, I and to, to get answers when there were no answers. Normally, um, a psychic medium reading, the, the spirit comes in, I ask, do you have a message for this person? And they just give the message. This week. Um, they had a couple of questions. That they were asking in their head and wanted to know from their loved one that was on the other side. But she didn't tell me what the questions were. She just wanted, her loved one to tell her the answers and sure. Enough, the answers came through loud and clear, and she was shocked because she was like, I didn't even tell you what the questions were. And I'm like, but your loved one knew what they were and brought your answers to you, so you don't even have to verbally say anything. It's so cool. But the, the main one I actually channeled the loved one that passed across. And, this isn't something that I typically do. It just kind of happened. And what happens is it's a conversation between the live loved one and the past loved one. Together. So it's kind of like my spirit moves to the side and, um, the, the person that had passed through the veil, um, comes through and stays next to me and answers the questions and I just repeat them. So it's like a conversation between two people and I'm kind of out of the picture, so my input be isn't being put in. Um, I'm not having to have to, um, look at things like symbolically and try to interpret them. It's an actual conversation back and forth. Um, so the person that's alive is asking question to the person that's dead, and it's going back and forth through you.
Brad:you,
Nannette:Through me and I'm
Brad:like every, answering it, like every horror movie out there.
Nannette:Oh, like I was possessed? No, I not possessed. No, no, no. It's, it's called channeling and, um, it's, it's brand new to me. But, um, I did it for several times, for a couple of hours this week. And the shocking thing to me, this is, this is another thing Spirit has taught me. Um, usually when someone passes for them to come through, is usually, At least a month, couple of months out. It can be a couple of weeks, but definitely not real close to the death. And, um, I, I remember having my classes with my psychic medium mentor and um, at one point I didn't know that her dad had passed away and I had learned a couple of things during this class. She held up a piece of paper with the name on it and she asked me, is he alive or dead? And I said, dead. I could feel that he was dead. And um, she said, okay, how long has he been dead? And I gave Spirit, um, the numbers one through 10 to find out how many. Days, they, he, this person had been dead.
Brad:you, you posed the question that way, is that
Nannette:you Yes. I ga gave a visual in my head, you know, uh, the number's one through 10, it should have been. A calendar. Okay. That's what I learned during this, but I only gave the spirit one through 10, and the numbers seven and nine popped out. And so I, I told my teacher he's been dead seven to nine days, or maybe seven to nine weeks. I'm not really positive. And she snapped at me and she said, no, you're wrong. He's been dead. 16 days.
Brad:Your teacher sounds mean.
Nannette:No, we have to understand this is her dad. And being a psychic medium, being so close to it, you can't get your loved ones, um, you can't speak to them because your grief changes your frequency. And so she's blocked. Yeah. And so she wanted so desperately to hear from her dad, and this is what she does for a living and not being able to talk to her dad. But the seven and the nine popped
Brad:made me think of like the old Russian ballet instructor again. Again.
Nannette:seriously when she snapped at me, I was like, holy shit. Like, okay, but the seven and nine popped out and she's like, no, he is been dead 16 days. And I said, but seven plus nine is 16. And I'm like, all I gave them is one through 10 and she's like, Oh yeah. Okay. And she goes, I knew my dad would come to you because he totally loved you. And then we started to have a conversation, you know, and he started to show me things and, and she knew, um, that it was him. And she found tons of, comfort in that, and in the messages, and it's amazing. I even asked, several of my psychic medium friends, how early can someone come through the veil after they've passed? They're like, oh, it takes a couple weeks to months. Like, they don't do it immediately. But this week, um, this person that passed came through same day. Same day.
Brad:So is that,
Nannette:is
Brad:that, they, because they were an advanced spirit or because they were just strong? Or what,
Nannette:Honest, honestly, my gut just tells me because it was a child and they're just so accepting and they're just so simple and so pure. I think that, that, that child was just like, Yeah, I gotta, I gotta talk to my family. And the messages were incredible, incredible. The proof was just jaw dropping and um, it brought such comfort. Here I go. It's
Brad:okay, it's okay. Just feel it.
Nannette:such comfort to his family and, um, I'm just really humbled. That, he came through and cuz I didn't think that he would, I really didn't, I thought that I was gonna have to tell his family, you know, um, we're gonna have to wait a couple of weeks to months and that was not the case. he's very, been very active, in communicating with his family and I think it's huge because, sorry.
Brad:you're okay.
Nannette:I would've given anything to have somebody be able to bring Cory through like that and tell me all the details and just have a conversation with him. Um, the goodbye would've been a whole lot easier. Yeah.
Brad:Yeah.
Nannette:instead of me being demanding, you know, with Spirit and with my creator and saying, you know, no, I can't be married for 19 years and just have him poof, be gone. That's just stupid. I refuse. Well,
Brad:Well, what's crazy is how Spirit brought you together with this family to begin with, because you've only been friends for a short time.
Nannette:Yeah. Well, and here's the thing, um, the family aren't even clients. the, the way that it came about was, we just became friends and, and then I gave advice about a business and things that I saw in the future. And sure enough, those were the things that happened. And so she, She gained a trust in me long before she had to go through this. Immediately after losing the child, she just reached out to me immediately and wanted to talk to him. I'm just, I'm super grateful. I love spirit. I love working with the spirit, and it's super humbling, to be put in a place like that.
Brad:Yeah. Um,
Nannette:Um, It's exhausting too. I can just say that. I don't know that I'm gonna do it very often.
Brad:but you know what? Think of the trust that takes from them. That's really cool. That's huge from from them and for them and for you. Like you learned so much.
Nannette:That little child has taught me, and he is not even alive. And I can't even tell you the ripple effect that his life has just touched so many people. So, um, yeah, super, super grateful. Lots of gratitude today. I
Brad:I love it. Nan, should we pull a card for our audience?
Nannette:Yeah. Do something different. So I stopped bawling.
Brad:Okay. All right. We're gonna use the murder of Crow's Tarot and see what we come up with.
Nannette:All right, this, so this is Brad's tarot deck that he keeps at his desk, and every once in a while he'll just fill the need to pull a card and it's always spot on. So we're gonna draw, um, one for the world. Yeah.
Brad:Yeah. And then we should do some for our listeners. Yeah, let's do that. Okay. So the one that got drawn for the world In general is the four of cups. Now in this particular deck, they're all black and white cards, but there's a lot of detail in the drawing. So what this is, is it's a person sitting down, uh, it looks like in a forest. They've got their backup against a tree, sitting with a, a chalice next to them, and there is a crow in the tree just over their shoulder, uh, watching them. And typically what this. Card would signify is that there is a lull, right? They've, uh, been sitting so long that they've essentially forgotten what they're doing, what's going on, what's next, and uh, are just staying stagnant rather than progressing or moving forward. So as this person sits, the crazy thing is all they have to do is break their focus. And look over their shoulder and they would have a reminder of why they sat down in the first place and what the next step should be.
Nannette:So basically look for something positive, be grateful, and you know, change of vi vibration.
Brad:Yeah. And grow forward.
Nannette:grow forward.
Brad:Don't, don't stay stagnant.
Nannette:Yes. So get out of the funk
Brad:a hundred percent. All right.
Nannette:how much does the world need to get out of their funk? Like there's so much going on. Well,
Brad:Like we talked about, we're still feeling that collective grief over so many things. All right, so let's look at this next set.
Nannette:so you had three cards, just, just flew out of your deck for our listeners. That's weird.
Brad:Well, it, it's even more weird because these are not three cards that should typically come up together, but they do. Um, so you've got temperance.
Nannette:So they're, they're a major arcana. Yeah. Okay.
Brad:Temperance. The tower and the world. Oh
Nannette:gosh.
Brad:So let's talk
Nannette:okay, so this, when you have major arcana that come in that are all together like that, this means fate. This is what, um, the universe is putting out there for you. So our listeners are getting some fate.
Brad:Yeah. And, and let's talk about the cards. So the way they look, the first one, temperance, is an angel with dark wings, a dark dress, um, light colored hair like complexion. And she's standing, facing, um, the viewer with. A chalice in her left hand that she's dumping the contents, into a chalice in her right hand. And with this, it's very much, uh, a warning that we need to find a balance and take just enough of. Whatever it is, we need to find that joy to move forward to, to grow, um, into the next phase of our lives, to take that next step. So balance, find that balance. It's very similar to the cup I just drew, um, but it's something that we need to take enough of to heal ourselves so that we can move forward. So think of it this way, if. If you were sick and someone offers you too much medicine, it can oftentimes make you more sick. So you need to look at it as a way, okay, I need to take just enough at this point to make myself better or to heal, to move forward. And that could be of anything, right? Or any, pretty much any situation. Look at it and go, okay, what's happening in my life right now that I need to take a little bit of healing balm to move forward?
Nannette:Right. Well, and you can look for the divine messages and everything. It's, it's a lot of transformation, right?
Brad:Yeah, absolutely. The second card. Is the tower. So we're, this is just a basic past, present, future reading, right. So the, the current card present is the tower, and in this particular one, it's shaped like a tall, dark square castle or palace. in the foreground you see some light and some lightning, and the lightning is casting a shadow over a crow and lighting up two other crows and. Ultimately when the tower comes up, it's about changes, right? And in this particular one, it's no different. It's basically saying, Hey, look, you think you're safe right now? You think that things are good right now, but they're not. There's danger coming. There's changes that are going to happen and you need to pay attention and get out and be safe while you can. Um, so with those changes, whether that's in a relationship, whether that's in a religion, whether that's in your job, um, there's some changes coming and it might. Feel safe and comfortable, but it's time to become a little uncomfortable and move forward. Um, it it goes very well with the Temperance Card, right? You took just enough to heal and now I'm confident. Now I'm happy. Now I can move forward out of this dangerous situation that we're currently in. It's time to leave that behind us.
Nannette:Yeah, it's a dramatic change. I love that they're both about transformation and changing.
Brad:Well, and we don't stop with that. So the future card, let's talk about that really quick. So the Future card is the World. The World. And in this particular card, it's uh, a woman sitting in an oval of leaves. Uh, she is emerging out of the earth and the woman is part woman and has the head of a crow. She's holding two scepters, one in each hand. Basically symbolizing, some victory and, and some success. And ultimately what this signifies is opportunity that is approaching to change and come out of the ground a new and actually be able to acknowledge those things that we've done to move us ahead in our life. So it's a way of recognizing, wow, look at our change and look what we've done. Look what we've accomplished.
Nannette:it's basically a successful end of a
Brad:Yeah. Very successful. These are great cards.
Nannette:are great cards. I, I think it's interesting cuz most of our listeners are on their path to becoming, um, more spiritual and they're wanting to transform, they're wanting to change, they're wanting to embrace that side. I love that. Great messages for the world and for our listeners.
Brad:Good reading today. Hey, thank you Nan, for sitting down and recording a podcast with me.
Nannette:Thank you. Um, so if you would like to sponsor the podcast, um, there's links in the notes to buy me a coffee and we love coffee. Go ahead and, sign up to get a subscription. You'll also get a reading depending on what level you sign up for.
Brad:Yeah, you could get a free tarot reading every month just for you.
Nannette:Just for you. They're pretty fun. Shocking that they actually work. Still don't know how they work, but they do every single time. It's so fun.
Brad:Thank you so much everyone, for listening. We sure love you and we are grateful for each of you. If you have any questions or you want to reach out to us, you can use the email info at the mormon medium podcast.com. Yeah,
Nannette:Yeah, please reach out if you have any questions,
Brad:and
Nannette:will see you
Brad:on the other side of the veil.