Habs Make TOUGH Decision...WHAT'S NEXT?!

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The Montreal Canadiens had their momentum slowed at the Bell Centre as the San Jose Sharks skated away with a 4–2 win. Rookie sensation Macklin Celebrini led the way with two goals and an assist, while Collin Graf added a goal and two helpers in the win.

Montreal opened the scoring early with a goal from Cole Caufield, but San Jose answered quickly and built a multi-goal lead. Nick Suzuki brought the Canadiens back within one late in the second period, but Celebrini sealed the game with an empty-net goal.

On this episode, Shaun Starr and Marco D’Amico break down the Canadiens’ loss, discuss the standout performance from Celebrini, and analyze what went wrong for Montreal. What does this result mean for the Habs moving forward, and what adjustments need to be made after the loss at the Bell Centre?

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SPEAKER_00 2:21

It's going well. Any any chance I get to uh talk puck with you, I take advantage of it. So I'm I'm in. I'm in. I'm in.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Very kind. Um was the out-of-town scoreboard kind to the Montreal Canadians who wake up this morning still in third place in the uh NHL's Atlantic division, two points behind uh Tampa Bay. And now looking up at the Ottawa, at the Ottawa Centers, excuse me, the Buffalo Sabres on 88 points as they were in tough. Uh, we'll talk about the out-of-town scoreboard. The Red Wings mount a comeback, but don't get it done in Dallas as the Montreal Canadians get back to work at 7 o'clock tonight against the Anaheim Ducks. But let's start with the big change and what were what we expect of this. A couple of questions right off the hop, Mr. Campbell. Um, your thoughts on Martin St. Louis pulling the trigger and ending Brendan Gallagher's run. He healthy scratches him, but also uh in the same kind of breath, mentions that he'll be back in the lineup tonight against Anaheim. So let's tackle those two topics right off the hop. What'd you make of uh the decision to finally sit Brendan Gallagher as Alex Texas playing some pretty good hockey?

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Yeah, so I think you, you know, uh we kind of got a glimpse of that as you know, I work with Gallo and Mitch Gallo was letting us know on Campbell Gallo that uh it was gonna happen, that he's had conversations, the coaching staff and with Brendan Gallagher about the possibility of resting with the team being healthy. Now, the fact that he says that he's gonna be back in the lineup against Anaheim prior to knowing what was gonna happen in the game on Saturday night, I think is a clear indication that the resting of Brendan Gallagher, yes, there's a there's a portion that is about you know play. If you're gonna rank the 12 forwards on the Montreal Canadians, he might land in 12th for you. If you're going to say, you know, who are the players? He's the 12th. However, it's about maximizing Brendan Gallagher. There's a back-to-back, you're the you're an elder statesman, you're a guy that works hard every single night. I know maybe you only play nine to ten minutes, but those nine to ten minutes have to be the best version of Brendan Gallagher. So saying that he's resting him, I think it's about preparation for the playoffs. Like to me, there's no doubt about it that Brendan Gallagher will be in the lineup, game one of the playoffs. Now, now we know it's a competition. So the Bulldooks, the Texiers, the the Gallagher's have to grind and claw to prove that they're the guys that need to be in the lineup if they're healthy. But I'm not reading too much into this about a slight and an insult uh to the legacy of Brendan Gallagher. Oh, if you do the math, it's a thousand. Get out of here. Like you know, him playing 84 games and an 84 game schedule next year is was gonna be tough anyways. So you know, Markov didn't play a thousand, and it doesn't mean that Gallagher, everybody thinks that Gallagher's career is over after next year. His 6.5 million dollar contract is over next year, his career's not over. Just you can relax on that just a little bit. So I I think it's it's smart that the news trickled out. I think it's smart that when it happened, it wasn't this giant bombshell. I think everybody, I think everybody kind of realized that. But it is it is intriguing that maybe the the Canadians against San Jose without Gallagher was missing a little bite, a little were they were they though?

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Like I I like Bull Duck's game, I like Texier's game. Like, and and that's the that's the next that's the next question, is it not? Like Alex Texier when he's played, considering that you know he was the first guy in, Bullduck was the first guy out post-Olympic break, and then it was Bulduk on a run, and that 70s line is to me is doing some good work with with Evans and Doc. I have no problem with that, with that unit, but I also Campbell, like all cards on the table, man, like I really like Texier's game lately, and I don't see how you can seriously. I mean, I don't see how you how he can't play tonight at the Bell Center against Anaheim.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Well, if if the coach doesn't want to go back on his word, someone has to come out, right? And I'm not saying it's Texier, and I like that um Bullduck and Texier showed up yesterday. Yeah. That because they realize they go, well, the coach said someone's coming out, and the last two healthy scratches, other than Gallagher, were Texier and Bullduk. So unless you're going down another path, a path that we have not entered yet, or there's someone that's nicked up, it's likely Bullduk or Texier. And if then if you want to choose last night, I'm with you. I thought they both brought a little bit of bite. I think it's gonna be Bullduk's turn. And maybe, and maybe that's because I'm with you. I thought Texier brought that bite that you want, but so did so did Bulldook. But we're told that Gallagher's gonna play. So if you're telling me to choose between the three, knowing Gallagher's in, I'd probably sit Bull Duck. Or do you go down another path? Could you possibly have this conversation with Phil Deneaux?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Could this conversation be about Phil Deneau? And Deneau, yes, he wins face-offs, yes, he's on the ice at the end of the game, but you have new hook, you have doc. These guys can play center, it's not out of this world. I'm just saying, the is there another option than the two that we just brought up? Is Deneau the third option?

SPEAKER_01 7:39

I love I love that take, honest to God, because again, I I you know you're about building confidence, and there's to me the way Bull Duke has been playing with more jam, it's something, and I want to dig into this. You know, what cost the Canadians last night against San Jose? Obviously, giving Macklin Cellebrini 71 too much time and space, right? But they were loose again. That's that's a word this team has been using a little too often as we get you know deep into the regular season and on the cusp of a of a playoff spot. That level of looseness, that level of of missed assignments. And look what happened on the tuck-in goal there with with Macklin Cellebrini next to Jakob Dolbich. There was Phil Deneau just getting beat by a younger, fresher guy. And I guess if we tie Brandon Gallagher into this, and maybe why Patrick Lani doesn't play, if you don't have pace, you can't keep up, and maybe there's not a spot for you. The Canadians have the luxury of having like another, they have another fifth, they have a fifth line basically that doesn't play but but can suit in. And I don't mind the Phil Deneaux because Phil Deneaux, as good as he is in the face-off circle, you know, right there with Jake Evans, is you know, you need to win a draw. Those are the two guys you're probably going to deploy more often than not. I don't I don't know if Phil Deneau at this point has shown me that he's irreplaceable, that he's got the jam. First of all, he doesn't have the jam, and the pace is and the pace is lacking. I I would look at Phil Deneaux before I would look at Zachary Bulldook all day going into tonight's game.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

So the question here is with Phil Deneau, is when you ask, okay, great on Facebook. What is 58, 59%, uh Jake Evans 58%, Suzuki's down at 50. Um, your question is, what else? What else does Phil Deneau do other than win face-offs? And it's not like the Canadians don't have another guy that to win face-offs. Yeah, if Denon was the only guy hovering around 58-59%, and you were sitting there and you had your Suzuki at 49, and Evans was having a bad season, and maybe you're like, I can't have to, you know, these situations. Yeah, they Denon will win those big face-offs percentage-wise, but you do have another guy. So it's what else? Is he part of a penalty kill unit that's in the top 10 of the league?

SPEAKER_01 9:50

No, well, that's the other thing, too.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

I mean, you can't come to me with the PK defense. The the PK has been terrible. It's it's interesting with the transition of the Canadians getting so much younger. The the conversations is uh is about the the elder statesman, right? Yeah, the Gallagher's the Dano's. Can they can they keep up? Uh, you know, if we can get into the blue line, we can start talking about Alex Carrier, right? There's there's there's a whole other conversation there. But again, this is the biggest issue with the Canadians right now in the team that's in third place, is we're debating the 12th forward and the seventh defenseman, and that's it. There's no debate about who's on the top six. You know who the top six are. Oh, who's the top four or top three defenseman? No, you know who those guys are. You know, there's a little debate on the goaltending now between the two goalies, but other than that, you know, you you're sitting here debating 12th forward and seventh defenseman. Yeah, and this is a good situation. Marty St. Louis said it's a good situation when you can rest a guy like Gallagher. Maybe it's an idea just to rest a Deneau. And and maybe Deneau, like Gallagher, had a conversation saying, hey, down the stretch, you might sit one or two. We'll see. Because the the when the when when Gallagher sits and is told he's back, and Texia and Bulldook go into that game last night, they know Bulldock watches Texia have a good shift, and then he's like, I gotta have a better one.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

That's right. And you saw, I mean, Texia yesterday, I know he was a dash two, whatever, but you know, he had two shots on goal. I think he had uh three or four total shot attempts in that game. Uh Kirby Doc kind of led the way with four shots on goal. And I know we'll get into the bigger picture as it relates to the Canadians and the playoffs and and areas that need to be tightened up and whether or not, you know, we we look at where the Canadians are in the standings this deep into the season, uh, with a handful of games to go on, and again, in third place um with 82 points, uh about the level of confidence you have, no matter who. I mean, if they're gonna get through the Atlantic division, they got to get through Tampa Bay. Um and there's some there's some questions around, you know, how the Canadians' defense is structured. I know uh Alex Carrier is the new whipping boy. And listen, I mean, it's it's not, I don't think it's unfair, but have Habs Nation a part of it anyway, Sean, is kind of set its sights, you know, and ready for a David Rinebacker call-up. But again, cap constraints. It's hard to imagine. Um maybe later this week the Canadians will play Boston on Tuesday, and as the week unfolds, maybe there'll be a David Rinebacker uh call-up. But there's one area of concern that it's remained constant, hasn't it? Is the D-zone coverage. We talked about the penalty killing, the lack thereof in terms of consistent efficiency. It's this deep into the season and and missing some markers and not having enough intensity, it it leads people to be negative when they look towards a playoff matchup and wondering if Montreal can survive a first round, regardless of who they play.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah, like I I look a little bit about the uh the game against San Jose, and you could talk about the defense defensive zone coverage. You had the power play goal by Celebrini. I did the the first one where he has time and space to take that shot. I think that's one where you want to close that gap a little bit more. The one that bounces off graph. I know Carrier is the one that's uh you know entangled with him. You maybe you want to move him a little bit more. That's just a shot and a lucky bounce. Yeah. Uh, I and look, I'm gonna give a lot of credit to Celebrini because Cellebrini is able, you watch the way that he comes in the zone, watch prior to before he gets the puck. There's like three passes. He finds that open, and the fact that the Canadians aren't like Cellebrini had so much time and space. The first shift in the third period, he almost had a breakaway 15 seconds into the game, and that's because Cellebrini gets the puck away from him, and then when he doesn't have the puck, he kind of disappears, and then next thing you know, the fenseman looks left and right, and there he is. He's everywhere on the ice. He's absolutely coming off the bench, he's dangerous. Going to the bench, he's dangerous. He was making dangerous plays, making a pass and going to the bench, and then that guy gets a scoring chance. But you know, the defensive zone coverage they that you're getting into, it it needs to be a little bit tighter, it needs to be a little bit more jammed. There's the there's an element of youth on the Canadians team, and there's an element when you talk about these older teams, like let's go with the Tampa Bay, if you want to go into with the the Dallas or how how grinding and hard they play. They just have that the more you play, the harder you play in the league. And I think it's one of the reasons why the coach understands when the playoffs come around, he wants to know Gallagher and Anderson part of this group, so he wants to make sure that they're ready. And I think that's the plan, but there's this extra element of grind that you know, the Kapanins, the Meet off, Slavkowski's getting into it, even Caulfield and Suzuki, not that they don't work hard or or defend hard, but there's this extra level that because they're so young, they don't have I think they saw it against the Capitals last year in the playoffs. I think they're going to be more ready for it this year when they head into the playoffs, but you're starting to see it in the regular season in these games like Saturday night. I think the Canadians, if they just leaned a little bit harder onto the sharks, could have walked away with the two points. They just didn't lean hard on them.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

But why I mean, Sean, there's 17 games left, 16 after Anaheim tonight. In my opinion, I mean, this is isn't this the time? Isn't this the time where you're supposed to, you know, be the more mature team? And then granted, San Jose come came in here, they're fighting for their lives. They're and now they're above the they're a they're the second wild card team in the Western Conference. And maybe they're looking up at third place Edmonton in that Pacific division saying maybe we can catch these guys or not, right? But I understand San Jose came here hungry, but the Montreal Canadians have you know generally have been an excellent team this season. To me, I don't know. Am I overreacting to say I'm a little concerned that with less than 20 games to go, we're still talking about a team that is missing some of the key markers? Uh, whether it's you know, certain guys hitting a wall, guys getting outworked, missing assignments, not covering your men, and down the list we go. And the inconsistent, I mean, the one thing that's been consistent is the inconsistent goaltending. I don't want to put all of it on Yaakob Dobesh, a couple of wrist shots, but again, why did those pucks get through? What's happening in the defensive zone? What's happened to the coverage that those wrists, wristers get through and beat Yaakob Dobesh?

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah, I'm not I'm not I don't need to get into too much. I don't, I don't, you know, breaking down you get two goals on three shots at one point in the second period, you're gonna start looking and blaming and pointing at the goaltending. I I look at some of the goals yesterday. I don't really put too much on Dobesh. I'm I'm more on the system that was in front. So I'm not I'm not diving in on Dobesh here too much. Um, you know, the concern that you have and maybe overreaction, I think you're overreacting just a little bit with the Canadians. It's weird against the Sharks because we saw it last week on the West Coast. The Canadians played two games against the Sharks and the Ducks, scored five goals in those games each, and lost. You don't score five goals in the NHL and lose games, and you don't do it back to back, and the Canadians did that back to back. So they kind of had to come back. They're on the West Coast, it's a weird trip. They get three points in three games, they clean it up in LA a little bit, they squeeze out two points and come back. What I, you know, we talk about that grind and that lean. This is where I'm gonna tell you you shouldn't worry too much. And I know it was two non-playoff teams, but that Ottawa game was a playoff atmosphere game in Ottawa, and it was the second of a back-to-back, and then you had an odd Tuesday night against the Toronto Maple Leaves, but it's uh rivalry, rivalry, whatever you want to game with grind, divisional games. The Canadians won two games by only scoring three goals. And to me, that was a bigger indication that they were able to rectify and get ready. Now, if you're telling me if you want to combine the ducks and the and the sharks versus the Sens and the Maple Leafs, who's better combined or what kind of styles that they play, the Canadians kind of fell into the Ducks and Sharks style and they lost those games in shootouts. The Canadians kind of leaned into the Ottawa Senator style and pulled out the win on a back-to-back. I was more impressed with the two wins, three goals apiece, than the two losses, of course, with scoring five. And then you get into the weekend of the sharks are back and you're like, uh, I'm curious. Like, I don't know what's gonna happen against the Ducks, but the game I've circled is the Boston Bruins. Divisional game, two playoff teams on a Tuesday night. It's massive Bell Center. I want to see a game similar to the Ottawa Centers one where the Canadians win by only scoring three goals with that grind, that leaning. I I want to see the Slavkowski, I don't want to see uh how Demidoff and Kapanen and these young guys and New Hook really lean into this. How does Hudson respond to a game like this? This is this is the game I've circled. So before you start thinking about oh, they don't have the grind or ready or the defensive, I want to watch them against the Bruins on Tuesday night. And to me, that will if they walk away and get thumped and it's like 7-3 and physically, then I'd be like, there are some concerns about this lineup, but uh West Coast, East Coast games at this season's point of the season, I worry a little bit less about, even though you know you look at the standards like oh, sharks don't have as many points as Canadians. The sharks are a quality team with a lot of talent. Canadians got talented yet. You know, you get goalied, you get Canadians got talented by Celebrini a little bit yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Uh, there's Sean Campbell. He's in for uh the under the weather Marco D'Amico. If you're just joining us, that's what's going on on this Sunday live version of the Star and Demico show on YouTube.com wherever you get your uh your favorite audio podcast. Everything that you see here will be available. So if you're driving around, um, you're at home, you got things to do, uh you can pop this on, download the iHeartRadio app, and you can find it there wherever you get your favorite um podcasts. And of course, don't forget uh on TSN 690 every Monday night at seven o'clock when there isn't a Montreal Canadians conflict. And you know, you talked about the Boston Bruins Tuesday at the Bell Center. It's a massive week because they're at Detroit on Thursday night.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Yeah, right. That's the that's the next one, too. Like, I want to see like more so than Ducks and Sharks. I want to see how they do against the Red Wings and Bruins this week. Agreed.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

So, what about the goaltending matchup? Like, I think I know what I want to see. I mean, you're gonna see Jacob Fowler tonight against um the Anaheim Ducks, but what walk me through starting tonight, the the next three starts, who gets who? And can like the other follow-up, I guess, would can we read any into anything? Because I've heard different differing opinions, even you know, you know, Marco has has shared his opinion that if it were a game seven, you know, in a in a best of seven series, he'd probably go with with Jacob Fowler. And my question to that is well, what happened in the first six games of that best of seven? Did someone lose their job? You know, what's the context of that? But what about what about the next three games starting tonight and then home to Boston and then at Detroit on Thursday? Walk me through your thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

I think we can go back to the to the statement that Marty St. Louis made when they called up Jacob Fowler, and he said, This goalie gives us the best chance to win tonight, right? Yeah, and that was the Ottawa game. And uh we're expecting Fowler, and then after Fowler, there's gonna be like, who's the nets? Are we ever gonna see Montembeau again? Uh, is it is it Dobesh who is the de facto number one until you really see Fowler grab it? If Fowler does anything tonight that really makes everybody feel calm, cool, and collected, Fowler gets the Bruins. Fowler gets the Bruins depending on the per his performance will dictate. If not, Fowler, I again, I told you last night I didn't really have too much on uh on Dobesh. Uh one's a uh you know, the the the step-in shot by one of the best players in the league in Celebrini. I don't care if he's a teenager. What a shot. You know, you time and space, any NHL player stepping into a shot, it's just advantage shooter. That's what it is, and that's that was the problem on the defending on that one. You talked about the the backdoor goal I on the power play. I'm not really getting to that. The bank off a graph like, and then you you I I'm not really in on all this, right? And I know that you could get into the goals that were allowed versus disallowed, because there's no goals that beat him, and you could evaluate that. I think if Fowler looks human. And a young goaltender that wins or loses the game and say it's a four-three final, and you're like, ah, there was uh one goal, but blah blah blah. Then maybe you go back to Dobesh for for the Bruins. That's fine. I think it's I think Fowler's game dictates it. But the door is open for Jacob Fowler to take the reins here. There's no there's no like, oh, Dobesh gets three, four chances before you take away the number one from him. Uh there's no like, oh, there's another opportunity down the line for Montabeau. I don't know if that's even the case. To me, the door is open. The moment they called up Fowler, Fowler's not here to sit. Fowler is here to play. And he could play 50-50 or he could play 66-33. I think those are the options. It'll be he'll get two out of three or fifty-fifty. The moment he starts being back up three games in a row, he'll go back to Laval.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah. Uh a little golf clap for Cole Caulfield. Uh, sets a career high. He's on 38 goals. Mr. Saturday night does what Mr. Saturday night does. He lights the lamp. He scored in 15 of the 18 Saturday night games that um he's suited up for. Obviously, you know, uh missed the last game out with uh with the I don't know, the flu or some some some cold that looks good. Good good enough. Yeah, good enough to keep him out of it. But uh there he was with a goal scorer shot. He's on pace for 48. Give me a percentage that Cole Caulfield's gonna be the next 50 goal scorer. I'm not whether you believe it's gonna be this year, you know, he he gets the hot hand and can run it up to 50. Again, he's projected for 48. But give me your your percentage that Cole Caulfield wearing a Canadian's jersey will hit 50 goals in his career in a single season. Oh, that percentage is high. That percentage is very like in the 90s?

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Uh I would, I would, you know, scoring 50 is hard, so you kind of have to drop like 25% off of that. But it's, you know, we play odds makers all the time on Campbell versus Gallo. And yeah, uh it if pretty much you believe it's gonna happen if you go over 50, and you don't believe if it's under 50, I'm over 50. I'm probably in the 70, 72, 73% range. I think you just have to take 25% off just because scoring 50 goals is one, you need health. Two, it's not easy. Not many people do the percentage of players do it. He's shown that he's on pace to almost hit 50 this year. It's not out of the question. I would say it's lower this year that he'll do it. Um, but it's it's still not out of the question. This guy scores goals. How many more Saturday night games do the Canadians have? You could probably get two a pop on each one of those. You know he's gonna be gamed up and ready to go against the Boston Bruins. And when the if if the Canadians are gonna be in tight games, it's gonna roll into three on three uh hockey down the stretch. You know that there's gonna be extra frames and extra uh you get to three on three. Those are extra goals for him because he's gonna get it the opportunity and get out on the ice. So I think that there's a high percentage that he will be a 50 goal scorer once with the Montreal Canadians. It's uh he he has shown at this age and he's only going to get better and understand the league a little bit better. You saw him try and bank one off the mass from below the goal line. Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

He tried the no look too, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Because the Delkovich was ready for him, right? Yeah, but it was that the Cole Caulfield. I I see it happening. I see it happening, if not this year, very soon.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

I'm gonna go 85%. Okay. I'll go 85% that Cole Caulfield hits 50 for the Montreal Canadians. Um I would put it, you know, in the 30 percentile that he does it this year. But yeah, maybe he gets out there, it gets hot, you know, scores another hat trick this season, and uh continues to, you know, boost the odds. As I mentioned, he's projected for 48, right? But part of me, I guess how I kind of get there is ultimately maybe it's a it's it's a hope more than a than a reality, Campbell. Feel free to check me here. But I think if uh ultimately 93 jumps up on that line and will be a mainstay there. And I think that's how Cole Caulfield gets to 50 goals with Demidov maturing as his game grows. Listen, the kids got four points in his last three games. He's over 50 points. As we know, the Canadians are a high volume scoring team and have been all season long. But don't you see Demidov one day, maybe as early as next year, if not the year after that, as the permanent fixture um next to Suzuki and Caulfield on the on that top line?

SPEAKER_00 26:16

I'm not as convinced as soon as next year. I think that the coach loves Slavkowski there, and he's shown that he Demidoff doesn't need Suzuki. And if you have two dynamic players on two different lines, it's gonna make a difference. That yes, they're great when they're on the power play together and you get to do that. Yeah, but let's let's be honest. Demidoff and Kapanen have found something. Agreed. They have found something, and this is you know, I've been talking about this all in the summer. If I was anybody in the summer with Demidoff, uh, you know, hanging out in the summer in Montreal last year, I would have just come over early and said, Okay, can we skate together? Can we skate? And who was the player that did that? You know who did that? Oliver Kapanen. Yeah, and in and in late August and September, when and when all those players were in Brass are just hanging out and skating together, you know, Hudson and all those guys were came early, and that was the whole story. You know who was on the ice with Demi Doff? Oliver Kapanen. Oh, who who started the season? Who's been with him every step of the way? Who has 20 goals this year? I know Oliver Kapanen. And every every step of the way that we talk about how how much Demi Doff's gonna be that much better next year because he's a rookie this year, and you know, is you know, progression is always exponential. Can we talk about maybe the the the progression of what Oliver Kapanen's gonna be next year, too? So I I'm I I know what you're saying, and I think that's if he's a hab.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

I still think he's trade personally, I still think he's trading. They move him. You don't move him. No, where's the future for him?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

He's not the two C of the future, you know, because I want to ask you about you're the two C of the future if you're the guy that plays with Ivan Demidoff.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

I'm sorry, you are what's it what's a point total for a 2C for you? 50 points, 60 points.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

It depends what kind of 2C you are. You could be a 1C and get 65 points like Patriots Bergeron. Yeah, but come on, Patriots Bergeron. No, I'm not saying that, but I'm you know, point totals if Suzuki's getting 100, you only need to get 60. If Suzuki's getting 80, then you need to get 75. Like there's there's there's there's a a balance here of what you need. And I of course you want two 80-point center icemen, but if if you're a center iceman that gets 60 points and your wingers are getting 75 to 80 points, then you're a 2C.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

He's like a three. I know he's only twenty he's only 22, and there's room and there's room to grow.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

But when you you look at it, why does he have like I know you say there's room to grow, but why is he already maxed out of what he's going to be? But Demidoff and Slavkowski, there's still more to them. This is the first time Oliver Captain's played in the NHL. I know he played a smidgen last year, but I don't know. I I think people are dismissing him as a second line center. He's the second line center from day one this season on a top five scoring team in the National Hockey League. And he's doing it with one different line mate, you know, three times this year, and with your rookie sensation, Ivan Demidoff, who's supposed to be the next hundred-point player. And there's no problems, and they haven't even they haven't even thought of splitting them up.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

They haven't even no, I mean you're trying to create a nightmare matchup, and this is what the Canadians have. I'm not here to advocate that Alex Newhook is the guy that that you know fills the void for Oliver Captain. I'm not suggesting that they need to make a change. I like the top six as they're currently built. I mean, you know, one of the you know, one of the reasons why I was skeptical that they that the Canadians uh weren't gonna make a move on trade deadline day on Friday was because of you know who they've added, right? We talk about Phil Deneau, we talk about Alex Texier. Alex's new hook has been unbelievable. Doesn't look like a guy to me that is you know fresh off three months from a fractured ankle. You know, he he looks as fast as he did as he did when he came back before he you know. I mean, he's he's a very talented deep player, and I think he compliments that line, which again brings me back to my earlier point. The Doc, Bullduk, and Evans line has been consistent. You know, you're trying to build consistent patterns, but when I look at Oliver Kapanen, I see a high hockey IQ player. I see a guy who's positionally smart, um, who can find open ice. Remember, you know, in the first third of the season, how Demidov was finding this guy because Kapanin would find soft ice and and get behind the city. Go to be that guy, yeah, right? But there's part of me that I'm like you're looking for that guy that can drive a line. And I don't know if he drives a line.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, but why does he need to drive a line when his winger drives the line? Well, three guys that drive the line.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Only because I have Demidoff going uh ultimately, I think, when his game matures and rounds out, like we've seen with U.S., that he's my he's my first line right winger.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Okay, that's that's that's fine. So then Slavkovsky has proven that he could drive a line. Why does he need to drive a line if Slavkovsky's driving the line? Kapitan and Slavkovsky have proven that they play well together, so you move Demidoff. But again, I don't feel like have we seen Kapan and Newhook and Slavkowski? And I know your idea here is by moving them out of the 2C and trading them away with in your head, which you've already done, Sean. It's because you want Robert Thomas showing up. And then, yes, if you're telling me I have the choice of a second line center, is it Robert Thomas or Oliver Kapan? Kapan, you're my third line center. Yeah, I'm with you. But I'm just people are dismissing him as a second line center when he's the second line center on a team that scores as many goals as they do. And in his rookie season he's scored 20, and he's with a guy that has 50 points as a rookie. Why would you tear a chemistry up that has been proven in year one as two rookies? And then the next year you're gonna be like, Oh, you guys were so great last year, first year in the NHL. Oh, but this year you're not playing together. Nah, nah, it's not gonna happen. I just don't get it. I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Okay, listen, you make you you bring some good points to the table, right? So let let me let me transition then into what what's missing, who's missing? Fill the roster holes to take the Canadians in their current version and put them into legitimate contending conversation, a team that can get to the Eastern Conference final and they play hard and they get to a Stanley Cup final. I'll never want to assume Stanley Cups. They just can't assume that you're gonna win the Stanley Cup. But what are they missing to go from here to there so that they are credibly in the conversation when the national media talks about the Eastern Conference and the majority of those voices and the voices on TSN 690 credibly put the Canadians in the conversation as an Eastern Conference contending team that can win the Stanley Cup. What's missing today?

SPEAKER_00 32:56

So there's there's a couple things here, and you can go and get, like you said, that another center. I don't know if the Canadians they don't necessarily need center, you could go get another winger and you're talking about top six. So if you let's just say if you're taking a if if you drop legitimate center and a legitimate top six on the Montreal Canadians today, and we could give with we could go with the Robert Thomas and whoever you want, okay? It doesn't really matter. You know that Kapanen and New Hook are moving down. Like you're not touching Slavkowski, Demitoff, Suzuki, or Caulfield, they're in the top six. So if you go get guys that are high caliber top line players, those guys drop down. My biggest concern with the Canadians makeup right now on the team, and it's nothing even to do with the veteran line of Dano, Anderson, and Gallagher, because I know that they're going to kind of weed out with time.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Especially next year with the contract. We'll see, even I'd be shocked if all three come back next year. I think one of those three might not. There's two players on this team that I am super questionable about because I go up and down, and with the veteran line, I know what their identity is. I know what they're supposed to do, and those players know what they're supposed to do. Top six forwards, I know what they're supposed to do. Jake Evans, I know what he's supposed to do. The two biggest question marks on this team for me right now is because I have no idea who they are, and I don't think they know who they are. I don't think Kirby Doc or Zachary Bulldook have an identity. I don't think they know. They think Bulduk's like, I'm a sniper, I need to score goals. Well, maybe you need to be a pest, and we spoke about that earlier. You have to grind it out. Kirby Doc has no identity. We know what everybody wants him to be. Big, physical, be like your Ay Slovkowski, win battles, get the puck in the net, and score your goals around the net. Show your hands. That's why he starts on the top line and then he's there for two games and he disappears to a third line. Kirby Doc to me doesn't have an identity of a top six forward anymore. Kirby Doc, as a third line winger, sits and toils around and trying to figure out who he is. And I'm with you, by the way, because lately Evans, that 70s line, Evans and Bulduk and Doc are creating something. If in this stretch they can create something, then maybe you don't need as much change. But it's still a work in progress for me. They need to figure out who they are. What do you do as a line? Are you pest? Are you trying to create power plays? Are you trying to score goals? Are you trying to defend? Who are you? And to me, that's the biggest question. The second big thing they need to do is they need to make sure that they have some sort of top four defensemen deeper in their lineup. They're six, they're they're five, six, seven or five, six, sevens. NHL Stanley Cup teams have a top four defensemen playing as their number five. They have a guy that can play 20 minutes but only ends up playing 13. Has a guy that you can put out there on like the Kidangas don't, like, besides Carrier, you would think that Jackey or Struble, if they're in the lineup, are gonna be on the PK. They don't do anything except play like a couple five on five shifts, and then that's it. You can't have that in today's NHL. Your bottom six guys, if you're leaning on Matheson and Dobson and Hudson so much, you need your bottom pairing guys to go and kill pennies. Like they don't do that. So you you need an extra body on the on the back end that is playing lower down the lineup. So a top four guy playing number five, which last year they had with Carrier. Carrier showed up and he proved that he could play 18 minutes a night and he was playing on a bottom pairing. Now this year it's kind of evolved and it's kind of caught up to him a little bit. So to me, those are the things that are missing. I think that there's a couple players that need to figure out who they are, and if they can't, you gotta move on and get someone who can figure out who they are. Because I'll tell you, if you move Kapanen and New Hook to a third line and you get those two top two players. Oh, wow. Now you're cooking. I know what Kapanen and Newhook who they are, and they would, I'm okay with them on a third line together with whoever you want to put there, even if it's a Jake Evans and you're working you're working around three centers together, right? The three C's. I don't care. They'd figure it out, and they I know who they would be out on the ice when they hit the ice. I don't know what half these players are. So yeah, you could go get two top six players, and then it would change the dynamic for the Canadians tenfold.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

I want to get uh Sean Campbell's opinion. He's uh sitting in for the under the weather Marco D'Amico, uh, live with us on this Sunday morning. Please uh like and subscribe as we continue to grow the channel. The the march to 15,000 subscribers begins with each and every one of you, and it just uh simply helps the growth. You just like and and uh consider subscribing for daily habs coverage right here on YouTube.com or wherever you get your favorite audio podcast platforms. Um, I want to get the chat's opinion here, and then obviously Campbell will will weigh in as well. I don't think I got his take. Um, just off our conversation around Oliver Kapanen, and and just for the record, you know, creating debate. I am not a Kapanen hater. I I appreciate this young man's game, you know. Um, but just trying to have that conversation about getting the Canadians to the promised land or as close to it and what that roster looks like? Here's a question for you. And Camelot, I don't want to, I don't want you to answer it right now. Okay. Um, what's the what's the bigger need for the Canadians if we riff off of all the trade speculation and all the gossip leading up to Friday's deadline? Matthew Nyes or Robert Thomas, what fills the bigger need for the Montreal Canadians? Why don't you guys in the chat weigh in? We'll get uh Sean Campbell's take in a second. But when we look at the out-of-town scoreboard last night, the Boston Bruins won a very important game last night. So did the Ottawa Senators. Ottawa shut out Anaheim, who the Canadians are gonna see tonight. 2-0 final. Um, Linus Ulmark bounces back after wearing the horns against the Montreal Canadians. Uh, Boston beats Washington in a shootout. Elsewhere, the Buffalo Sabres continue to be this unstoppable force. And look, the teeter-totter Tampa Bay Lightning are very much a thing. They lose a home game to Carolina in a 4-2 final, and Columbus picks up two points by getting by the Philadelphia Flyers also in a shootout. So, what does it mean? The Canadians, after 65 games, are on 82 points. Buffalo's on 88. The Lightning are on 84. That's the top three in the division. Looking at your wildcard teams, both the Bruins and the Red Wings are on 80 points. Now, the Canadians still have two games in hand on Detroit, and they're going to make up one of those games tonight when they host Anaheim, Montreal, and you can listen to it on TSN 690. But how many teams are you still thinking about are legitimately in the race? Do you want to go as far as Philadelphia, who are six points out of wildcard two, and seven points out of third place in the Metro Division? Or does it stop at Ottawa, or maybe you don't want to include the Senators, who are five points out of a wild card spot, and Columbus, one point back of Boston and Detroit. What are you thinking about how this Eastern Conference is shaping up? And where do you draw the line where you stop wasting your breath talking about these teams and whether or not they're in the playoff hunt?

SPEAKER_00 40:07

I know a lot of people drew the line on the Ottawa Senators when they lost to the Montreal Canadians last Wednesday, but there's still so much hockey left. I think my line's at the Senators. I think that's exactly where my line is. Uh blue jackets, hey man, I know Habs fans woke up this morning going, they're only three points back of the Habs, even though the Havs are in the third spot. Like it is very convoluted from the Habs to the Penguins to the Islanders to the Bruins to the Detroit. Uh, who's gonna be in a wild card? Who's gonna be in a top three spot? And you have Columbus in there. Ottawa's kind of that grinded out team. And I said it, I love that game on Wednesday. I love hockey like that. It felt like the playoff atmosphere. I rag on the Sense a lot. I really, really do. They're a team I just never believe in, and I give them a little extra shots. But I will tell you, the way that they're made up, I want to see them in the playoffs. I want to see them in the playoffs. I know some have fans don't want to see them in the playoffs because it's kind of an interesting matchup, and in a seven-game series, who would come out on top? And I know that the Hatchers are weak, it it'd be an incredible, probably seven-game series if they were ever to cross paths, if they got in. But to me, I I cheer for the Ottawa Centers to get in, even though I rag on them, if that makes any sense, because I know I would be far more entertained with that group uh of players in the playoffs, other than Detroit, you know, just did or or or Boston. But I I think it's a it's a big climb. They have to go on a bit of a run. And we we've seen teams go on a run. You can win five games in a row, and you know, if that if the Sens win five games in a row, they still might be two points out of a playoff spot, depending on what happens ahead of them. That's how hard it is to climb with three-point games every single night. But my line in the sand is Ottawa. And I'll I'll just tell you, has fans, don't look down, look up. That's the way to that's the way you gotta you gotta look up. If you want a winner's mentality, if you want that mentality, when you're looking and doing standings watch, look up in the standings, don't look down.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Um, the chat is active, obviously, on uh the question at hand here. Um for entertainment purposes, and I understand there's there's a lot that would that would need to go into this. Um and one of the comments was about waiting on Michael Hage. And chances are the fan base is probably gonna see Michael Hage when Michigan season is over. And I know he had a big night the other night uh for Michigan in their in their Big Ten playoff. Um, but when you look at this player and you and your expectations, are you seeing someone that um can be that set center, or are you just trying to avoid that pressure um based on what you saw maybe at the World Juniors and looking forward, what you've read, what you heard, who you've spoken to as it relates to Michael Hage's future in Montreal?

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Uh I'm I'm super excited for him. Me too. I'm super and and and and I know that you have to be careful with prospects. You know, you're never as uh your value is never higher than the moment that you're drafted, and sometimes that evolves. I feel that Hage's values actually increase through time because he wasn't a top 10 pick, but he was a later round pick. And then the world juniors, I think that really got has fans excited that didn't know much about him, and then you start following him up and seeing what he can do. I'm excited for him. But man, I'm a man that preaches patience.

unknown 43:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

I you know that when if you want to talk Ryan Backer with me, if you want to talk Jacob Fowler, right? I'm a man that preaches patience. Hage will likely play a game or two with the Canadians. If this team's healthy, I don't know if he plays in the playoffs. It depends where the Canadians are at the time. Doesn't mean that he, you know, the you get that contract and you play. He might, he might sign one of those contracts where they're like, Look, you're just gonna we're we're way too healthy, we have too many bodies. Go go play with Laval. You know, go go go play with Laval. I want you to have games in this organization as a young player. Like, yeah, you're right. Like, I don't sitting in a press box versus going playing games, most of these guys want to play games. So I think that there's a chance there that that happens. Um, depends on the negotiations, and I think Ken Hughes knows what's probably better for the player next year, penciling them in as your second-line center over Oliver Kapan, and I don't know yet. Down the line, yeah, that's something you could very well do. Uh, but I'm excited. I'd probably say for Michael Hage to be that instead of Robert Thomas and going acquiring if you bring Hage in to be one of your centers, you're probably gonna have to have that year of development at the NHL level, which is not easy. Not uh, not everyone's gonna walk into the NHL like Oliver Kapanen and think about the the the progression of Kapanen and how much professional hockey he played before he got to the Montreal Canadian. There's something there. Um, so I I think Michael Hage, let me just do the math. What year are we? 2026, 2023. Like get ready for Michael Hage to be probably in your top nine uh 27, 28 season.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Uh the Laval Rocket uh split their Friday and Saturday games, uh picking up a shootout win uh yesterday in a 4-3 final over Syracuse after getting beaten by Utica on on Friday night. Um David Ryanbacher, I mean, he's been playing some outstanding hockey. Maybe the best. Obviously, the best thing for David Rheinbacher, Sean, is that he's been healthy. And not only has he been healthy, he's been productive, and he's a minute-eating machine for Pascal Vincent and the North Division leading Laval Rocket. I'm very much in favor of probably Thursday against Detroit. I'd love to see him. I'd love to see him. And I think it would come at the expense personally of Alex Carry, and then maybe needs uh a little bit of rest. Looks like he's overmatched. Um and right now, not playing the best hockey. I'd like to see the Canadians get a little bit more size. And I know Ryanbacher's not the guy that's gonna come in, you know, the mean, the mean machine and is gonna push people around, but he's been steady. Uh, how do you feel about the possibilities of maybe seeing David Rheinbacker Thursday in Detroit?

SPEAKER_00 46:06

Uh specifically Thursday, I don't I don't know if I believe in that happening just yet. I think I've I'll want to watch the Ducks and the Bruins game and then make that decision because uh, and I know I'm filling in for uh Marco. Marco knows more about the cap than I do, but I know uh, you know, paying attention to you guys, knowing that it's the 16th of March, cap-wise, cap availability that the Canadians can call up another player. But by doing that, it also really handcuffs them straight to the cap. So if you wait even longer, you get a little bit more time, a little bit, you know, other moves that you could possibly make. So I do believe Ryan Backer will play by the end of the season, specifically against Thursday. Yeah, I'll take it earlier than later because I want to see him at the NHL level. I want to see his game translate in right away. But if the Canadians come out with two victories, you don't need to. If you don't need to, don't do it. What I'd like to see, idea is the Canadians go on a bit of a run, getting real comfortable, two, three. Maybe they lock in their place. And like Hage at the end of the season, like Ryanbacher, they get their games in and they come and play. If you want to, if you want to make that move because Carrier's struggling or Struble you don't trust, and Jack I can't get in the lineup, then yeah, do it for that reason if you think he's going to be better. Same reason you brought in Fowler. This lineup makes us have a better chance to win. Boom. You you make that decision.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

And don't you want to see it though? Like just to get an answer to that question.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Yeah, but but then here's the problem you're gonna drop him in for one game and he's gonna play 11 minutes. You're like, well, he's not the answer. You know, you you gotta let him play a week or two to see if he can, you know, be an NHL player. Like, you can't just have one game against Detroit, evaluate that, and then send him, oh, oh, he's not ready, and send him back down. Yeah, now everything about David Reinbacker right now is is trending upwards. And I know everyone's like, oh, he's the only guy and part of that draft that uh hasn't played a game yet. Well, he lost a year, just put that aside. He's a defenseman that lost a year. Evaluate him when he comes up, but know that you have to give him time. And whatever five, six games he plays at the end of the season, it's really about next year for David Reinbacker. But yes, he is a guy that you can bring in. He is one of the options. You can't trade, you can't bring anybody else. Your other defensive option, other than toiling around with Carrie H. Strubbel and Jack Eye in the bottom six, is David Ryanbecker. That's your other option. Just like with the no move at the trade deadline for goalies, the only other option the Canadians had was Jacob Fowler. Now up front, the only option you have by changing up your fours, and maybe if you want some scoring, is when you sign Michael H. That's pretty much the only moves that the Canadians have left for a playoff run. And I think Reinbacker, uh, you know, if he's not gonna play in Montreal down the stretch and take over one of their roles, he'll be a big piece of Laval's playoff run, and it's all about next year for him. But I do want to see him before the end season's up. So I'm with you. Detroit, not necessarily, but before the end of the season, I want to see him play ideally a handful of games, but it depends where the Canadians are.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

And it'll be interesting too. Um, when Engstrom is healthy, you know, dealing with that upper body injury, has had him on the shelf for a few weeks now. Um, he's the guy that has the experience. I mean, he the Canadians have to your point about Rhinebacker, the Canadians have had a decent look at Engstrom. So I wonder about whether they just want to prefer to let Ryanbacker cook in the American Hockey League and then make it a fight at training camp next fall to be determined, right? But nevertheless, I think this summer is going to be a very, very interesting one for the Montreal Canadians. Kirby Doc's a restricted free agent. Are they gonna look at hope? Hoping? I know hope isn't a strategy, but are they hoping David Rheinbacker and Anna Mengstrom take the next steps and win jobs at camp, forcing Ken Hughes and Jeff Gordon to make some tough decisions? But let's get back to that question I teased you with 10 minutes ago. Uh, the bigger need for the Canadians, again, just riffing off of the names that were circulated, right? I can't speak to how close Montreal ever was. We know that Robert Thomas was never asked to waive his no trade clause in his contract. According to Robert Thomas himself, um, there's been wild speculation around Matthew Nice that maybe that was the Canadians uh player that they had sought out and maybe the player they'll circle back with later this summer. We also learned apparently that the Canadians had a deal with a team for an unnamed player, but got it in just after three o'clock, and the NHL put the nope, we're not putting it through. So they weren't in the queue, but apparently Montreal had a trade done with a team, but got it in too late. What's the bigger need when you watch this team and you cover this team as the occasional voice of the Montreal Canadians for TSN 690? When you we talk about Robert Thomas and Matthew Nice and we talk about this team leveling up, what's the bigger hole? What's the bigger need?

SPEAKER_00 50:46

All right, so first, um I'm gonna, you know, I'm not trying to, I will answer the question. I'm just saying the Canadians could use either player. Like you you're amplifying your team by if you're adding one of them, but uh straight up, I'll go Matthew Nice. And um I I I love the size and I love the skill and I love the skating. Like when it comes to size like that, I think that's kind of where where I'm leaning towards. And this is not a knock on Robert Thomas. The what's interesting with Robert Thomas, and maybe this is kind of an where I where I land, is Robert Thomas, who does he get compared a lot to? Like, and who does Nick Suzuki get compared a lot to? Yeah, the similarities are are through the roof. And yes, I'll take two Nick Suzuki's, no problem. But sometimes you want a little bit of variety. So what really worked, and this is you know, because if you're bringing Nice and he'll go into a top six, and who knows who's going out, I we don't know what kind of trade it would be. What really worked, we know that Uri Slavkowski works with Nick Suzuki and Cole Coffield, right? We know that Urai Slavkowski worked with Kapitan and Demidoff. Yuri Slavkovski's worked wherever he's gone. And you're talking about a big, strong, skilled winger. You're telling me I can put one Slavkowski goes with Suzuki and Coffield. I'm feeling very good about that. Oh, and I get Slavkowski too. And I'm not, you know, we could get a debate about Nyes versus Slavkowski and their skills and what they do, but I'm just saying another big guy next to Kapan and Demidoff, I take that too. So that I think, and and I think that's you know, we get into this conversation that I had earlier about Kirby Doc, right? Like, who would you rather have Nice or Doc? Come on, I I don't even think it's close, but that's what when everybody talks about doc or when Doc was brought in, that's who Doc was like Doc was supposed to be Matthew Nyes.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

You know? I guess I guess I mean I wish I was in that room to know.

SPEAKER_00 52:49

Yeah, he didn't play enough and he's been hurt, and then every time he comes back, you're like, Oh, give him time, give him time. My time, like you know, I I I told you, he doesn't have an identity. Nice has an identity, I would know who he is. So I my answer is Matthew Nice, and and I'm not here to to to to stand up on over the little guys out there. I I think that the Canadians dropping a size sizable force into their top six would go a long way. So you're asking for a little bit of a need, you know. It's the one thing maybe that you look at the Kapanin and New Hook and Demidoff, you're like a little more jam on that line. I think you would get it with with a nice. So my answer is nice, and this is this is no trust me, I can make a whole I could go two minutes now on Thomas if you want, but uh well that's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 53:34

I I guess for argument's sake, I'll go with Robert Thomas because you know I like listening to Gordon and Hughes speak because they often tell this fan base in this market something, you know. I don't think they hide behind the Wizard of Oz, I don't think they're they're hiding behind a curtain, right? I mean, they they seem pretty upfront without telling us everything, as any good business operator, you know, should do, in my opinion. But I does this come down to the old draft rule, you know, who did do you draft for need or you draft the best player available? And to me, I think Robert Thomas is the better player. I just think he's the better player. Yep. And the one thing Hughes and Gordon have said repeatedly, especially Jeff Gordon after when last season ended, right? They talk about you know building this team with a certain type of player. And Arpin Basu writing about jam and the dog and a player. I don't know, like I won't define jam or dog in one specific, I won't corner that description and say, you know, you need to be Brady Kachuk, a guy who's got the dog and brings the jam. If you can score 80 points and you can score 30 goals or pick up 50 assists in a season, uh, and you play a top six six role. I mean, that's dog to me. Putting up points and and being a healthy, available, productive player, you know, teams need that. And I think Robert Thomas, as much as I do think, you know, you raise good points about Matthew Nyes, he's 23, he's got size, left shot, uh, has got a digestible contract, so does Robert Thomas. He's young, he fits what the Canadians are trying to build, um, and may maybe rounds them out a little bit more. But maybe uh uh Sean, it falls back into you know the points you raise in our earlier discussion in this hour about Oliver Kapanin at 22 years old. How much room is left to grow in this guy's game? And maybe they kind of already have an answer uh to that question. When remember Ken Hughes, when he was asked, can he be a 2C all day, every day? I think was his answer, right? So maybe the organization is very high on this young man's future.

SPEAKER_00 55:30

Yeah, so you said you like listening to them. Why don't you listen to him when you believe in Kapan and being his two line second line? I do.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

I I listen, I listen, I listen.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

You know, just uh it it's a great conversation because I'm I'm I'm telling you, I could go on five minutes of why Robert Thomas would would work, you know. So then if we're sitting here and looking for Robert Thomas and Matthew Nice uh economically, I don't know how they fit it, but just do both. But I do think I'll tell you this.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

I think no matter what whether it's nice or thomas, the asking price is astronomical.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

I think nice's price would be higher. I think Nice's price would be higher than why because it's Toronto, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

You're trade. I mean, you're gonna see you're gonna see this guy for the rest of your life, arguably, playing in your division.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

Yeah, well, well, what I mean is I think the price would be higher when it comes to um players on your roster, where the blues you could probably get away with the picks and the prospects. Yeah. Um, the Toronto Maple East would be we need significant player in return that will be part of our team, like right now. Like my point being a a Thomas deal likely might, you know, be the Hage or the Kapanen or the you know, the whatever rhyme, like I don't know, like you or Ghoulie, whereas a you know, uh um blues deal might just be next year's first round pick, and this, you know, it might be a little bit the composition of the deal might be different, so it might be c more costly to the Canadians uh bottom line today versus bottom line tomorrow. And the Canadians, I think their biggest thing that they don't want to do with this big deal is have their bottom line today moved. They don't mind their bottom line tomorrow moved in their next big deal. So I think that's why the Nice deal would be incredibly tough with the Montreal Canadians, where it'd be easier for the Thomas because I think it's more about your bottom line tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Yeah. Uh it's a halves game day today. Um, the Ottawa Senators, by the way, they're home to San Jose at five o'clock. If you're looking at the out-of-town scoreboard, Matthew Nyes and the Leafs are on the road. They're at Minnesota coming up at 7:30. The Florida Panthers, late game start playing at Seattle. And of course, it's Montreal and Anaheim. Uh, Sean Campbell in for Marco D'Amico, who's under the weather. So thanks to Campbell for pinch hitting. And a big thanks to all of our sponsors. You know, the Star and Domico, always proud to support Montreal-owned and based companies like Cheapest T-shirts and Insta Customs. Order today, ship today, get it tomorrow. Uh, the real deal on Peel, it's McLean's Pub, the go-to spot before and after your game. Uh, the best in home security at Cablital, Cablotel.com for affordable and state-of-the-art security with unbelievably easy installation. More details available at Cablotel.com and the Steakhouse of Choice, Morella Steakhouse, Highway 132, with no tax on your bill. And as always, a shout out to our friends at Little Bear, uh, Pet Supplies on St. Catherine across from Westmountain Square. Uh, so it's Habs and Ducks tonight.

SPEAKER_00 58:33

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SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

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SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

I love that he said it because that shows that he's just resting Gallagher to make him better. Right. So that the to me, I have zero issues that he's like, he's just taking the night off, he'll be back tomorrow. Like that, zero problems. If you're asking me straight up, the guys on the bubble were Texier and Bulduk, who both brought it yesterday, but in a loss. Um, if you ask me who I liked a little bit better between the two, I think I liked Texier a little bit better. I think it'll be Texier, but I'm okay if they take it out, Bulduc. But don't forget, I mentioned if they want to really shuffle the deck, Deneau might sit. Uh, but I don't think they're gonna sit dineau either. So I I I I would take Bulduk out, but I think it's gonna be Texier.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

What do you think about Josh Anderson's game? I mean, I'm I mean, you know, look Josh Anderson getting getting a little bit of a beating in the in the comment section. He's an emotional player. Uh, you saw him after the game, very emotional when answered when he when he answered um the question about Gallagher being scratched. I mean, the players, I mean, yeah, there's a couple of things here. This room is very tight. I think they're all very buddy buddy, and I think they they're they're realizing that they're doing something special here, and they want everybody to play, but that's just not the reality. And you know, Gallagher is a veteran, I think he's a leader. I still think he brings something valuable to the team, even though you know, pace is missing from his game. Um, but what about Anderson? Um, the Canadians can't afford to sit someone like that just because of he brings something that really nobody else does on a consistent basis. He's a good PK player, he hits to hurt, and he's he's aggressive.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

I I think that he's a little further down the line. Yeah um on Anderson. I think it's it's interesting because uh I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I know that uh expected goals like uh Gallagher has six goals, but his expected goals are around 14. So there's like eight goals that were on his stick that he was expected to score that he didn't. And I believe Anderson is right up there too. Like Anderson was it was his total 11, 12 goals right now, but his expected goals there's like another six goals from breakaways and chances he had another one through the he's on 12 goals and 20 points, yeah. Yeah, so but I think his expected goals are upwards at around 18, meaning there's another six, seven goals that are that are on his stick on breakaways on chances that he doesn't put away.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

You have bulldoze numbers because this guy never scores, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

But then his expected goals are you know how many times did he on your stick? You have to be there. That's why I think they still know exactly like Anderson goes out there. I know his identity, I know what he's gonna do. If he scores or he doesn't score, I know exactly what he's gonna do. So I don't think they're they're right there, yeah, he has some rough games, and but when they put those three guys together, I'm I'm fine with it because when they hop over the boards, I know what they're doing. Do I expect them to come out with a goal? No, there's this is this is how I evaluate fourth lines, just to break it down. There's there's there's kind of I give them a one-star, two star, three stars. Okay, yeah. So you get a one-star shift, a two-star shift, or a three-star shift. This is a fourth line. This should be your mentality if you're a fourth line on any team. Okay, you have offensive zone time, and you you you could create a shift where you're the fourth line against whoever, and you are in the offensive zone, that's a one-star shift. You are out on the ice and you are able to produce a power play. Someone trips you, hooks you because you had the puck and you were grinding and you were doing your thing, that's a two-star shift. You score a goal, that's a three-star shift. That's how I evaluate fourth lines. The Canadians get a lot of one-star shifts out of that line. That's about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Uh, you have time to answer, you want to answer, get to a few questions from the from the church from the chat here. Sunday morning. Let's go. Member of the show, Fort George. By the way, if you're with us here 64 minutes into the live show, there's Sean Campbell in for Marco Domico, who's uh who's under the weather. I don't know if he got it from Cole Caulfield, but uh the poor young man almost lost his voice, I believe. So that's why he's not here today. Uh, if Connor McDavid wants out of Edmonton, this will be fascinating to see. You know, if the Oilers make the playoffs, they probably will. But if they get dusted in the first round, I'm I am I've got my popcorn in hand. I am ready to see what happens. But Fort George, if McDavid wants out of Edmonton, would the Habs try to get him at any price? Yeah. Boy, what a price that would be.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:29

Yeah, that price is Nick Suzuki. Yeah. That's that's your that's your choice, right? Do you do you break up what you built to get the best player in the game? Yeah, no, no. I'm I'm just saying, but do you break up what you built? There are organizations that would be like, Look at what they have, they said take whatever you want. We're starting because there's the that's the toughest part because if McDavid's available, yeah. One, there's only gonna be a handful of teams that he would go to or Yeah, you know, like that. Let's let's just be honest. Okay. So let's just say that there are there's five five teams that he would go to. There will be organizations that say, Yep, well, whatever it takes. It doesn't matter. They're gonna have those internal discussions. The tough part here for the Canadians, even if he's on their list, is think about what Jeff Gordon and Kent Hughes have slowly built. I agree. Creating, I agree. And then you have to have that internal decision going, we will be, and I'm not saying it's for the better or the worse to get that one player. We would be breaking up everything we have built and worked towards because this opportunity showed up. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I'm not saying that they wouldn't do it, but like you you just asked, what would the Canadians go for? What would it take? Well, it would probably be Nick Suzuki, uh Michael Hage, and two firsts, yeah, uh two first and Noah Dobson. Like, I don't know. I'm that's it's kind of in that realm, and then you you would be like, Oh, I mean, oh, what else? So now your centers are you know, Kapanen, McDavid, Evans, and Laurent Dauphin.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

I love Laurent professional American hockey leaguer. I love that you're such a Kapan guy, you put him ahead of McDavid and your rundown. McDavid's on McDavid's on the number two. And then McDavid's still 29. Obviously, a player of that caliber's got a full full no move clause, but it's interesting because of you know the point you raise about what they've built, the psychological impact. I don't know how long it would take them to get over the core group of like Slaugh and Caulfield seeing their captain get traded, and then getting over that because Connor McDavid is the guy coming back the other way. But no doubt it it would be that would be a shocker of shockers. From Tony, when we were talking and discussing the point about maybe Phil Deneau um as a long shot scratch tonight against Anaheim at the Bell Center to bring Brendan Gallagher back in because the coach said he's playing Sunday night and it's Sunday. Uh, who plays center if Dano sits and Gallagher is back? asks Tony.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:09

Uh Newhook can move in the middle, uh Doc can move in the middle. It's it's yeah, I I I I know you're taking a I think you're taking less of a hit if Newhook, but you don't want to take Newhook away from Kapan and Demidoff. So but you have centers playing the wing right now. It's you know, Doc can play in the middle. I I prefer him on the wing than at the middle, but if if you're gonna do that, I would drop Evans down. Uh I to me, Evans is a fourth line guy, and then you would have a Doc Texier Bulldock uh uh third line with you know that Noah, the the no identity line if you're taking Deneau out. It's an option. That's that's all I'm I'm saying. I would have no problem if Evans, uh Gallagher, and Anderson were a fourth line. I have no problems with that. I know their identity, I know what they would do.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:58

Uh make sure to like and subscribe to today's video. Thank you so much. Um, we appreciate that very, very much. Uh, Bullduk, 20-game scoreless strout.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:08

That's why he could make it another game, even not by playing. So I mean, he had that shot in the slot, like he got set up perfectly in the slot between the two circles. I just wanted a better shot than that. And I know there was coverage on it uh last night, but at some point, if you think you're a goal scorer, you got to score goals. And if you're not scoring goals, you got to do something else. Yeah, this it's it's funny with Bulldock, it it it creates something that I think about all the time. And it's another uh uh you know Francophone player that scored a lot of goals at different levels at a young guy. Do you do you remember a guy named Charles Hudon? Of course, okay. Charles Hudon, who I saw time and time with Laval, was too much such he wasn't fast enough, but he he had such a great shot and scored so many goals at the at the AHL level, and he played one season of 71 games with the Canadians, and you know why he played that so well and played in 71 games is because he was a fourth-line guy, and after every shift, he slashed the ankles and pushed, he started scrums. And I was like, Charles, you don't. The guy who I just see set up in like the opposite of Ovechkin, the AHL power play, just winding up, no power play time, no nothing. And I think he ended up with like 28 points. Maybe maybe it was a little less than that. I don't know what it was. But after every shift that season that he played with the Canadians when the Canadians were not very good, uh, he was he was the pest and he was like getting under the skin, and he wasn't scoring goals, but he was he was doing something on the ice. Like, and I'm just saying, if you're if you go 20 games, I want to see Bullduk slash a guy in the back of the angles. I want him to start scrums after the whistle, but I don't think he knows who he is yet. He's like, should I score goals or should I try and get power plays, or should I, you know, block a shot? Should I he I think he still thinks he's a goal scorer. I think that's the issue right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:53

Kirby Doc has played 31 games, he has 14 points and eight goals. Is the jury still out on him as a center? You know, or he's a restricted free agent at the end of the season. He's a fascinating player to me to see what management thinks and ultimately how they decide to go about his future.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

He's a like I know I just answered Doc could play center because he can. Uh he's a center in need. Like, if if you're in need of a center, like that's why you want to draft guys that could play both. But if you need a center, he can go and and and play that role. That's fine. Um, my jury's out on him, but my jury is kind of out on him. You know, he played that great game a couple Saturday nights ago on a Saturday night. It was, it was, it was it was it was strong, and then he followed it up with a dud of a game, and then he got moved down, right? And then they shuffled the deck of the lines, and Savkowski was back on the top line. Kirby Doc to me, there's too many games that I just go, eh. Oh, it was okay. I know. And to me, if you want to be a top guy, like Doc has had every opportunity to go play with Suzuki and Caulfield every time he's I it was good, it was okay. Can't be a top six guy and be good. And okay. There's a reason why Newhook is playing every night because we don't say that about him every night. Man, Newhook was great tonight. Uh Newhook has jumped tonight. We've said it almost every game that he's come back from injury. Haven't been able to say that about Doc. Ah, he's good, he's progressing. It's going okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. Okay. I was okay. Yeah, not tonight. Oh, he was good tonight. But it just I the the he's he's like a Canadian starter net. The inconsistency is there. I just I'm I'm not sold on on Doc, and I know he's been giving that opportunity. I want to see, and I'm with you. We spoke about this earlier. That that 70s line. If they can go a stretch here and build something, and then after a couple games, we we sit here and go, I know what that line does now. Evans, Bulldook, Doc, they figured it out. It's it's their opportunity to figure it out if you know they stay together tonight. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Yeah, but I probably think it's gonna be Bulldook is the guy that sits. Um, lastly, before we let you go here, uh Sean Campbell in for Marco D'Amico today. The uh Igor Cherneshov, um, that was an ugly incident at the Bell Center yesterday. I mean, there was nothing nasty from Mike Matheson there, right? Where the NHL is gonna have a look at this. I didn't think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:21

No, that was just it's start the game 30 seconds in. Uh physical altercation, like Matheson kind of just like bumps him off and because he was like kind of spinning in the air, he fell awkwardly. It was really it was really weird because of the he was trying to avoid the check, so then that gave his body some momentum, and his arms were to the side and he kind of landed on his face, and then I mean the the hit itself was awkward, but nothing was more awkward than him trying to stand up twice. And I and and I know you can we you look at that as a as a guy that's like I don't feel good, I'm a warrior, let me get to the bench. Yeah, oh that didn't feel good. Okay, I'm good, let me get back up. And um, I think you heard it from the players after the game on both sides that kind of understand the game and what and exactly what happened. That was, you know. Welcome to I don't know what to say. Welcome to hockey. Like you just you have to be out there protecting yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:15

Yeah, just a bad set of circumstances, yeah. And you're right. I mean, that was awful to see him try to get back up there. Um, but again, you know, just just awful luck is what it came down to. I agree with you ultimately. Was no uh Radko Goodis on uh Austin Matthews. Boy, the Leafs took a beating for that, eh? Oh my rightfully so, rightfully so in my well, they took a beating when Matthews is done now.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:35

Yeah, his season's over, which which I kind of when you saw it, I kind of felt that way right away. Uh my first, you know, I'm not I'm not sitting here and being shocked that the NHL handed five games, but I I was like, he'll have a hearing, and I believe I was in studio with Gallo. Yeah, and I went and I said, hearing? Not a not an in-person, nope, like like right away.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

So it wasn't more than five, you knew that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:00

Like right away in my head when I saw that like first image, like you know, you can watch it seven times and then really dive into it. First time I was like, eight games, and I know I'm debating like three games, and then I watched it again, I was like, nah, nine games. Yeah, that's that could be ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

I'll just round up to ten.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:19

And then he got hurt for the season. I'm like, ah, 15. Yeah, you know, and then it was like five, because we said just in person, you know, I I'm debating three games. Yeah, I like and I know eye for an eye, suspend him for the rest of the season. Hockey's fast, good as plays hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

Uh, I I do I think is a dirty player, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

Like, do I think he's going out there to say I want to end Austin Matthews' career? No. But I'm going out there and I want to make him hurt after I make contact, yes. Yeah, and I think that that that's where the difference is. Like, yeah, right. Racco Goodas is a hard-nose, you know, plays on that line, crosses that line type of player, and the ducks love him for it, and he's you know, he's perfect in that role. Do I think he wants to go and end careers? I do not buy into that. You know, there are a couple players, maybe we could get into the cooks and uh, you know, players that I think might want to end careers. I don't think goodis is a is a career-ending type of uh schemer, but I didn't like it, and you should be punished for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:18

You know, it's funny you bring up Matthew Cook's name. There aren't too many guys like that in the league anymore, right? Unless I'm unless I'm missing like those those type of players that are, you know, and maybe goodis is, I mean, I guess I'm kind of in the middle there. Like he he's he he's a habitual line stepper to quote the late great Charlie Murphy, but he does it to the point where I'm just not comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:43

No, that's fine. He's no, and he should be punished for it. And when you cross the line, like he, yeah, I think he's a guy that understands that he crosses lines and understands he'll be punished for when he crosses lines. But when he crosses those lines, he's like, I'm going to go hurt him. But I don't think he's again, I don't think he's sitting there going, I want to make sure that this guy doesn't play for another seven months.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:03

Like, yeah, like there's jetting out your knee and the knee to knee. Get punished for it, please. Because you you gotta learn not to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:11

And then the classic leaf overreaction the next time out when the the entire hockey world was criticizing them for the like, what the hell are you doing? You just watched your captain, the best player on your team, yeah, have a season come to an end with a shot like that, and you and you stand around doing nothing, Patrice Brisbois style, uh, Richard Zednik shout out. Um, and then the classic overreaction against Buffalo, where Oliver X-Men Larson and Joshua, they're playing rough and nasty. Joshua's fighting. I mean, just the classic overreaction for an organization, brother, that seems rudderless. I think upper management, they're paranoid. I don't think they want to rebuild, like tear it down to the studs. Brad Trilliving, I don't think they want to eat that money. He's probably back with them. I mean, you talk about a team that has uh had its window shut in their face. We're talking about a Toronto Maple Leafs organization.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:55

Yeah, there's there's there's there's something there, and you can, you know, it's easy from the outside looking in from a Montreal market to kind of laugh and look, and you talk about leaders. Like, think about you know, when Team USA named Austin Matthews the captain, you're like, the Leafs captain? Yeah, like that's and you you're like, you know, they don't it doesn't feel like they respect them in Toronto, and you think they're gonna, and I know they went on to win, and then it's fine. I'm not I don't know they got outplayed, yeah. But again, it it's it's that mentality. The captain gets hit, and everyone like in such a disgusting, nasty way with the injury, you would think, you know, let's let's get let's get all into TO and that's my quarterback, right? Like, I and I know you know you talk about toughness on a team, and maybe it doesn't ooze out of the Montreal Canadians, but if someone did something like that to Nick Suzuki if and and Montreal reacted the way that Toronto did, uh let's let's be honest, this city would not be very happy. No, oh no, no, no, like they would not, whereas you know, it kind of just seems like yeah, whatever, it was mouth seems like but like if if if no one stepped up for your captain, Nick Suzuki, if something and and you know, knock on wood, I'm not saying I'm you know I don't care who you are. They would I've already seen it from guys like Lane Hudson who doesn't really care, like it because you know it's someone's gonna do something. Well, even like it doesn't it doesn't take it away. I always say this, right? Is like uh you know, it goes back to the uh Chris Kreider on on Carrie Price, right? Yeah, oh he didn't get penalized on the play. I go even if it got penalized, Carrie Price still got hurt, right? Like it doesn't it like even if the Leafs did something, Austin Matthews still got hurt. It doesn't stop him from getting hurt, it doesn't, you know, it just shows what kind of team you are. That's all it is. Shows your shows the inner working and mentality.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:54

Well, you look at Delane Hudson when he uh his goal was disallowed, which by the way was a I know we didn't really touch on it, the confusing sequence of events. The whistle blows, and then they call it a goal and then they reveal it. Yeah, whatever. I'm fine I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it at the end of the day. The whistle definitely blew well before the goal crossed the line, but I guess the point being for me anyway was you the skirmish that ensued right after that, Josh Anderson, I think, was the first guy in there because Lane Hudson, you know, got a little bit of a face wash to your point about Nick Suzuki. This team is uh very much together and and uh very much protective of their uh their money players, I'll put it that way. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:28

So not not that you want to see a situation like that to see how they react, but wouldn't you want to see how the Canadians would react? But you don't want to see a situation like that. No, no, no, no, no. That's no, that's that's that's my point.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:41

Uh, your great sport today, uh, Sean Campbell. Thanks for filling in for a Marco Domico uh last minute edition. I know the the chat appreciated it, and uh time just flew by as always. So uh enjoy the rest of your Sunday. You know, you got some uh hockey to coach up today.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:53

Yeah, yeah. Big uh big game. We're over at the uh the Legion in uh Montreal West, and then uh nice uh and then back in Verdun for a practice afterwards. So uh, you know, then I I should be home perfectly at seven o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:07

Sounds good. I hope you get to watch a little bit of the players' championship as well. Should be a fun uh uh uh stretch ride down towards the end there. Watch out for Michael Thor Bjornsen, uh the former Stanford Cardinal. Uh, watch out for him as uh Ludwig Oberg trying to win the players' championship and close out after leading over the weekend. Uh Golf.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:24

Change the channel here. Yeah, I think Jason has it on early.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:28

He's Grand Prix. So I was watching the uh F1 before I jumped on with you today. I was watching it while we were on. Oh, good stuff. Nice to have your undevoted attention. I wouldn't have known. I'm watching so I could have conversations with Luca. Um, the good stuff with Sean Campbell, who's back on the air tomorrow morning at 10 on your home for Montreal Canadians hockey TSN 690. Enjoy the game tonight. Um, let's see Jacob Fowler help get this team back on track. The Montreal is the best team at picking up points off a loss. No team in the NHL is better than the Canadians are. And let's see if that trend continues. I think it will. Uh, so tune into the game if you're on the road tonight. We'll have it for you on TSN 690 and a recap on Star and Domico coming up. Uh, Sean, thanks again. Have a good one.