Podcasting and Real Estate: How Momentum Drives Success with Kevin Amolsch

Most people don’t fail at podcasting because they lack talent. They stall because they never start, or they quit before consistency has time to work.

We sit down with Kevin Amolsch, a successful real estate investor and private capital lender, to talk about the real engine behind growth in podcasting and business: momentum. Kevin shares how he got into real estate at 21, why creative strategies like lease options can open doors when you don’t have much cash or credit, and why financing often decides whether a deal works. He also explains how his company raises private capital and funds projects like fix-and-flips and small developments, creating a win for passive investors, active operators, and the lender.

Then we shift into the communication side, where podcasting becomes a practical content marketing tool. We unpack what new hosts obsess over (episode length, logos, formats) versus what actually matters (clear value, strong guests, and shipping every week). Kevin and I get real about the first rough recordings, the nerves of interviewing strangers, and the freedom you have as a podcaster to protect your audience by not publishing an episode that misses the mark. We also look ahead at where podcasting is going, why the space still rewards focused niches, and how to stop being the invisible expert no one can find.

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Transcript

Welcome And Show Purpose

Carl 0:04

Welcome to Communication Connection Community, the Podcasters Podcast. This podcast takes a deep dive into modern-day communication strategies in the podcasting space. We chat with interesting people who make the podcasting and speaking spaces exciting and vibrant. We also dive into the podcasting community with news, updates, latest trends and topics from this ever-evolving space. So strap in, it's going to be one amazing ride. Let's dive into today's episode. When it comes to podcasting, you just have to start. I know there's probably a few more moving parts to it than that, but really you just have to begin. If you don't start, you won't have a show. And I know that sounds very superficial to say that, but it's true. But there are many people who don't get into the podcasting space because they're intimidated, they're nervous, they're looking at people who have been successful and say, oh my goodness, I'll never be that good. I remember I said that when I was in Toastmasters. I said, yeah, I was looking at speakers and how good they were on the stage. And I remember saying, I will never be that good a speaker. And here it is several years later. And not only am I confident enough to say, without sounding cocky, that I'm a good speaker, but I know I bring value to the podcasting

Kevin’s Start In Real Estate

Carl 1:16

space. I know my guests love being on the show. We have a great guest today who came to the podcasting space a little bit later to the game, but certainly around 2010, was saying the same thing I was saying. What's a podcast? Now he's not only very successful in his business, in his real estate business, but he is a successful podcaster and a sought-after podcast guest as well. Kevin Amalsh is a successful investor and lender specializing in creative real estate funding. His company manages multiple mortgage funds and is approaching $1 billion in fundings. He loves podcasting. And again, as a guest and as a host, and we're so glad he is here today. Kevin, welcome to the podcast. I'm so glad you're here, my friend. It's great to chat with somebody who lives, sleeps, breathes. Well, maybe not in the same amount that I do, but understands podcasting, other than by asking what's a podcast, which I remember doing back in 2012 when I first heard about podcasts. We're cut from a similar piece of cloth already. I like this. And you spent a lot of time in the real estate space. What brought you into real estate? Which came first, the podcast or the real estate? I'm assuming the real estate.

Kevin 2:23

Oh, yeah, the real estate long, long time ago. I was 21 years old, Carl, when I bought my very first property. I was in the military at the time, and I was saving a little bit of money. You have a lot of expenses when you're in the military. And so I was like, what should I do with this money? And I just started reading books and trying to educate myself, and everything was pointing me to real estate. It's where more millionaires make or hold their wealth than any other asset. So I just focused in on that and I bought my first house, got out of the military, moved into it with some roommates, moved out of it, kept it as a rental. And that was my first rental property. I guess the rest is history, as they say.

Carl 2:57

Congratulations on the success. I know you've been very successful at it. You don't come to that $1 billion mark without some success, trials, and tribulations along the way as well. And it's interesting what you said about the folks who are really successful, they typically have some real estate behind them. They might do something else, or their companies might do other things or be known for other things. But there's definitely or usually kind of a connection to real estate as

Creative Financing And Private Capital

Carl 3:23

well.

Kevin 3:23

Yeah. And I think it's very smart for anybody that's trying to reach financial freedom to figure out what they're really good at, make your money with that, but then invest that money into something that's going to produce some passive income. For me, it happens to be real estate, but there's, you know, obviously there's other options out there. The key is to get the money out of what you normally do to make the money and put it into something that's going to produce for you later.

Carl 3:46

And there's certainly no better time to be looking at real estate, too. There's certainly a need in your country, you're in the US down in Denver, I mean Canada, there's a need on both sides of the border for real estate and the right investments, the right people to look at various types of real estates. Certainly, if this is something that is piquing your interest as you're hearing this, and yes, we're going to be talking about podcasting because we always do, then definitely Kevin's a guy you should reach out to because he certainly has the knowledge and the wisdom to do that. Just quickly before we do switch to podcasting, what type of real estate? Yeah, you said you bought your first house. What type of real estate are you investing in? What area of real estate are you focusing on now?

Kevin 4:22

Yeah, I'm gonna take you back to that first one. So I was buying the just one little rental property at a time, and I really did fall in love with it. So I started focusing in on that while I was in college. Look, you're in college, Carl, you know this. You're broke, you don't have any credit or cash, you don't have any of this, right? So I had to figure out how to buy properties with no cash or credit. So I honed in on a very specific strategy. It's the lease option strategy. And that's really what took my career off. And through that process, what I've really fell in love with in real estate is the financing, because the financing is the deal. However, you choose to finance your project is how you negotiate it, how you write your offers, which sellers you're targeting to go out. We talked earlier about targeting your specific market, has everything to do with the financing. So I got into the financing side, and now we raise private capital and we lend it out to real estate investors that do fix and flips and small developments. So I know that's a long answer to your very simple question. The niche in real estate that I am in is on the finance side, the private capital side. Which is good. Financing equals money. Money makes people smile, especially when they have it. It's a great business. Everybody wins. We help our passive investors make a solid return. We help our real estate investors get their funding for their projects, and we make money in the process. Where you hear the term win-win. Well, I'm in a win-win-win situation.

Why Podcasting Works For Business

Carl 5:43

And of all the things you could do to get the word out about business, what led you to podcasting?

Kevin 5:48

And when that start, so I learned early on, way before podcasting was even a thing. You just joked about I didn't know what podcasting was. Yeah, we were, I was there with you for sure. I'm definitely late to the game. Back before that, I knew that to market a company, the best way to do that is to provide content. And the reason I think that's true is because you build credibility that way. And people do business with people they know, like, and trust. So I started doing anything I could to get in front of a room. And so this podcast is what helps me get in front of a bigger audience, right? At the beginning, I'm just getting on a little stage with 20 people in the audience teaching them how to do fix and flips. So it went way, way back, like 15 years ago. We I started teaching classes to real estate investors just so that I could be the one known as the expert. And so they would want to do business with me.

Carl 6:38

Content is huge. I think that's one of the reasons why between radio jobs, I spent time in the speaking world because for the same reason, you have to put yourself out there. You need to put your expertise out there. And anytime you can share that content, and podcasting was around in 2010, but not to the extent that it is today. There were a lot of barriers of entry still back then, and nobody really knew what podcasting was. But hey, live stages were fair game, and they still are. I mean, there's still live stages out there. But putting that content out there and positioning yourself as the expert, but also I believe in podcasting, especially, it's that, and I talk to podcasters all the time, and I just want to get your check on this as well, get the pulse here. It's about helping people make either a decision or help them enrich their lives or enrich their businesses just by the with the information that you're sharing.

Kevin 7:28

All of that's true. Absolutely. Giving them inspiration and motivation, someone to look up to. You know, the guests that we bring on are experts in their field, so people that they could lean on if they need a little bit of support and a little bit of help. But yeah, definitely paving the path. There's already somebody's already done what you want to do, right? So we're just trying to show the way, I guess. And podcast is just one way we do it. There's YouTube, there's written content. We still teach classes. I mean, podcasting is fantastic. I love it. And it's just one way that you're you can get in front of people.

Carl 8:00

Content is king, let's put it that way. And the fact you've really latched onto that and figured it out very early on makes it easier to. I know there are people who are maybe not new to business, but they're new to this whole content creation thing. Where do I begin? I don't know where to. It's forest for the trees when it comes to content. They have it, but they just don't know where to begin with it. So the fact that you've got you've established it, you have a system, you know, you're leveraging many different platforms to do that. That's what I like. When did you start your podcast? Was the magical year for you?

Kevin 8:29

We've been doing it for about two, a little over two years now. And we I know you were gonna talk about some of the stories on how it's it's gone. About a little over two years.

Carl 8:38

And you were extremely

Starting A Show Without Overthinking

Carl 8:40

successful right from day one. A million listeners. That your best episodes were your first five, right?

Kevin 8:47

We were just gonna say that. I was just gonna say, you guys, what if your listener is just thinking about starting a podcast? Look, you should expect your first five more to suck. That's normal. It's going to, but that's how you get better. No matter what, it's gonna be terrible at the beginning. And then as you hone in and get better and better and better, then it starts becoming better. That sounds weird, but it's true. Might as well suck now instead of next year, right?

Carl 9:09

So just get started. I think that's the message right there, is not the part it's going to suck because, and I know that's you don't want to say it, but you know I'm right. We laugh because we've both been there. And again, I spent 25 years in radio broadcasting, and I look at those first 10 episodes and I think, man, oh man, have I ever come a long way since then? I had experience, I had on-air experience, I knew how to talk, I knew how to communicate. I was a professional speaker, I spoke on stages. Do you think I could figure out this podcasting thing? I did, but they weren't great episodes compared to what I'm doing now. But the other thing, too, that I like that you hit on is just start because you need to get that thing, whatever it is, in motion. Be it a podcast, start your YouTube channel because that's what's going to make a difference. You can't hide behind the fact that, especially now, it used to be that if you didn't have, if you weren't blogging, if you didn't have a podcast, you didn't have a YouTube channel, okay, you could still get by. But now everything is so derivative or is so driven towards content. Social media is driven towards how much content are you putting out there? How much content on your LinkedIn? When you're sending stuff out to your email list, just about hi, here's another email, please read it all the way through. It's about content to engage the listener, the audience, whoever it is. And if you're not doing that, you're missing the mark. You got to be committed to adding value. At what point did things shift for you? Those first, again, those first bunch of episodes feeling a little bit rough. At what point did you start to see some success from the show? Episode 20? Was it about was it after the first year? When did you start to see things start to open up?

When Guest Interviews Get Real

Kevin 10:45

When I was very first starting the podcasting, I had a pretty decent network already because of the years and years in business. But even then, I only invited my close inner sphere to be guests. So I would do like a solo podcast, right? And so maybe 10 minutes of just something. And then I'd invite a close friend and then another close friend. And I'm very consistent. It's been once a week since the day one. But I was scared, I was a little nervous about having guests that I didn't know on the show. It took me probably, you said 20. I didn't think about that until you just brought that up, but it was probably about that before I accepted the first person that wanted to be on the show that I did not know. And that was uncomfortable. I gotta tell you, that was a little strange interviewing somebody that is a stranger for the first time.

Carl 11:33

I remember the first person I interviewed who was not somebody I knew because a lot of those early guests, like you say, they're people who've been vetted who they are. My first guests were people who were sponsoring an event that I was hosting. And I, as a value add or as a thank you to them, because they were sponsoring my event, I said, come and be a guest on my show. So it made sense, but but I knew them. I knew those people. The first person who I brought on my show, and I remember I was like, wow, is this going to work out? Is this a thing? People actually and it actually did work out pretty good. There's a lot of question marks, yes, for sure. Good enough for this person because you start to also question yourself because you look at what their credentials are, at least I did. I look at their credentials. Wow, they've done something phenomenal in this area. I look at mine and go, oops, I haven't done that. So you start to also do that, as I have a coach call it, the itty bitty shitty committee, going on in your head, going, Oh, okay, is this gonna work out? But it has always worked out. And I've learned how to also vet those guests who are coming across my email who maybe aren't a good fit. I'm still very polite and cordial. I'll say, you know what, thanks for reaching out. It's really not a great fit, but and sometimes I'll even give them an idea of somebody else, another show they can get on if I'm not thinking they are a fit.

Kevin 12:45

I agree with all of that. So at the very beginning, to take us back to that time, I would do a lot of prep. So, and you probably do a lot of prep now. Now I don't care as much about that. Um, I'll read the the background and a little bio and then call it a day and jump on with them and just have a conversation. Because for me, and like you, very just conversation, right? So it's not actually not that hard. But at the beginning, I was like studying them and trying to learn all about them so that I could have a great interview. It's much harder to be the interviewer than the interviewee. So I would say, yeah, put in some effort to begin with. And then once you start getting comfortable, I don't know that that's so necessary.

Playing The Long Game For Results

Carl 13:21

And give yourself time. Like understand that you're probably, if you haven't experienced this yet, you're feeling that this is a long game, not a short game. It's not let's do a bunch of episodes and call it a day. It's no, you have to consistently be doing it. It's I attune it to, well, I attune it to almost anything. But if you want to get in shape but lose 20 pounds, whatever it is, you can't eat four salads and think that's all you need to do. You need to consistently do things to improve yourself. Just like you did back in back in college when you were first looking at at real estate. I'm assuming you knew very little about it and learned fairly quickly, but you didn't stop at one or two or three. You kept going because you could see where this was heading, even if there were times back then that it seemed because I'm assuming there were challenges in the business as well. It's not I'm we're not just talking about podcasting. I'm assuming there have been challenges in that area as well. So it's about consistency, it's about sticking with it and not giving up because it's when you give up and you say, Well, that didn't work.

Kevin 14:21

It takes time for sure. I mean, we're just now starting to get some traction where I'm like, look, it's a marketing tool, right? Let's not kid ourselves. That's what podcasting is. And so we're just now starting to get some leads from it. For the first until now, so the first several years, it was more of a way to get on other people's podcasts and get in front of their audience. And then I would get leads from their audience. But now I'm starting to get leads, just more organic leads from our own podcast. We're two over two years into it and just now starting to see some results. So to your point, Carl, it takes consistency and time. You have to be committed to your overnight success. What you're saying. And it's so worth it. I'm not trying to discourage anybody because that maybe it sounded that way. I'm just being real. It's hard and it takes time, but it's so worth it.

Carl 15:09

And I think that it's good to have this conversation, and I've had it with other guests too, but the main thing is firstly, just do it, get started, allow yourself to immerse yourself in it, or understand it's a long game, not a short game. But audiences aren't stupid. Audiences are very critical. I know that there are people who say, well, audiences are understanding. If you make a mistake, it's okay, it's okay. But audiences are very critical. When you look at reasons why people will tune out a podcast, it's usually related to quality. The host is boring, the guests aren't adding impact, many different reasons. But if it's quality, if it sounds like crap, uh, which is why those don't gauge it on those first five episodes, because those might be crappy episodes. But if it sounds like crap, if your guests aren't properly vetted, if you're just speaking for the sake of having your voice heard, it's going to be a rough and bumpy ride. And you're going to want to throw your hands in the air and say, again, say this isn't working. But understand that audiences are critical. So when you're approaching this, and Kevin, I'm assuming you do this now. I don't know if you did it in the beginning, but you're approaching it thinking of the audience all the time. Is this a quality product or a quality guest that I'm going to bring forward to my audience? Because if not, it ain't happening.

unknown 16:22

Yeah.

Kevin 16:22

No, I still obviously still think about the audience. Even right now, I'm talking to you, I'm thinking about the listener. What can I do to add value to them? I think that's a mindset you have to have going into YouTubing, podcasting, blogging, any of that.

Carl 16:36

Which came first for you? I don't think I've asked you this question yet. Which came first, the podcast guesting or the podcast itself, or did they both sort of happen hand in glove? They both kind of happened at the same time.

Kevin 16:48

Yeah, you did not ask that question, and it's very easy one to answer. It was definitely the guesting. Because I was

Quality Control And Not Airing Episodes

Kevin 16:53

I've been speaking, I wrote a couple of books and I've spoken on stages. And so I would get invited without PodMatch or any of these other tools that we have. I would be getting I would get invited to guest on another podcast. And then I would do that because it was just so much fun, right? And then I would get some leads from their audience. And so then I started thinking like, how can I get more invites to be on more podcasts? And so that was really the driving force to start our own. And it turned into much more than that. But really, it was I was guesting, I was seeing results. How can I get on more shows?

Carl 17:27

And a great journey in Spain. That's what led you to where you are now. Biggest lesson you've learned from being in the podcasting space.

Kevin 17:35

I mean, other than consistency, that's the one that comes as so obvious that we've already covered. Biggest lesson learned you could produce episodes and not ever post them. If you're practicing and the guest is not something that fits your culture or fits what the messaging you're trying to get in front of your audience, and don't just don't post it. I don't think you have any obligation to anybody. And I don't think you should stop not start podcasting because you're worried that you're gonna have a bad episode, right? I don't know if that answers your question, but that's what's coming to my mind when you ask that.

Carl 18:07

No, that's totally, totally a great answer. And you're right. I think there are episodes that are great, and there are episodes that even if you vet your guest, you might think that's not going to hit the airwave. It's just didn't turn out the way you were wanting. And you have that choice as a podcaster to air that episode or to not air that episode. And you also have that choice as a podcaster to let the guests know I'm not airing it for this reason and decide should we have another conversation and try doing it again? You have that option, and that's what I like about this space. It's not like you're handcuffed to when I was in the radio world, we would have guests come in our studio on a regular basis, and we never booked them, usually. It was usually the sales department or promotions department would get or the music department would guest book somebody to come and be a guest. You usually didn't have control over who was coming in, and you were live, and you're live, and you have to make the best of it. Although later in my career, we would record those interviews just in case you never knew sometimes what people were going to say, gave you a chance to edit and clean it up. So if they did say something controversial or dropped an F bomb or something like that, that you could tidy it up a little bit definitely. But in this space, you have full control. I know there are podcast episodes of mine where I've been a guest that they haven't aired. I know that. I don't know if that's because I suck or just the podcaster got too busy and didn't have time to air it. I don't know. But I don't really care. All I know is that I've been in the space, I've been consistent in the space that goes back to the consistency. If you're consistent, and I think if you also approach it with understanding that this is not going to be, you're not going to become an overnight success just because you started a podcast. You're not going to be the next big influencer. I hate that word, by the way, but it's the only way I think I can describe it. You're not going to be that big influencer that thinks that, oh, because I have a podcast and it's on YouTube, everyone's going to find me and love me, and I'll be great. It doesn't work that way.

Kevin 19:57

And all of that's accurate, and I agree with 100% with everything you said. And I want to add this, Carl, because this isn't, I think this is important

Formats, Length, And What Actually Matters

Kevin 20:03

too. And I'm just thinking about it right now. Like, this is one of the things that hang people up is they overthink, right? We know this. So we start thinking about well, how long should my episode, how what's the thumbnail, what's the logo, what and then no, and then you don't start. Like, who cares? There's so much research out there on time. You have like Joe Rogan that's long form that's three hours long and performs extremely the best, right? The best that's out there. And then you have 10-minute episodes that perform millions of views. All work. So don't get hung up on any specific thing. Just record and have fun.

Carl 20:35

Just record, just do it. Have some fun. Yes. I'm glad you mentioned that about the big show and the smaller show, because I think that's one of the hang-ups that we get our brains. While it has to be like any of the thinking movies here, it has to be like a trilogy. It has to be like a big, long draw. If Joe Rogan's doing it and he's successful, that's the path to success. No, understand that Joe Rogan is successful, not because he has a podcast, because of what he's done before that that has allowed him to now establish himself on this platform called podcasting and have a completely different show. Well, maybe not completely different, because he he had us do some weird things on his show that he had. So of course he's already paved that way. Same as Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey is successful, not because she has a podcast, because of everything else she's done in her career that has led up to that. What have you done that's allowed you to reach the level of success Kevin has done? That's what's going to lead you to the next thing. And if it's a podcast, great. If it's a book, write a book. Actually, I would say do both. Launch a podcast and write a book. Do them concurrently if you can, because they will feed into one another. Oh my goodness, Kevin. I'm gonna ask you to gaze into your crystal ball.

Podcasting’s Future And Finding Your Niche

Carl 21:45

And I know you're a podcaster, not necessarily a strategist, but you've been in podcasting enough. You've been a guest, you've been a host, you've seen what's out there, you've seen a variety of shows, I'm assuming, been on a variety of shows. Where do you think? Podcasting is headed in the next, let's say, two to five years. What's your gut telling you?

Kevin 22:07

Well, I don't think that it's headed. I mean, I think it's headed right where it's been headed the last decade. I mean, you said there's podcasting 15 years ago. I didn't even know that. I think it's just been growing and growing and growing. I think it's going to continue that trajectory because it's such an easy way to get information that we're looking for. Now, I will also say this it's very broad information though. So you can get a lot of information, but it's broad. So you still do need the other sources of information. But I mean, do you know anybody, Carl, that's in their car that's successful, like high achiever business type people that are in their car not listening to podcasts anymore? Everybody's listening to podcasts. All you gotta do is find the niche that you want to speak to and create that. People will listen.

Carl 22:50

And it's very evident that people are listening in their cars because even auto manufacturers now, they have maybe not YouTube, but you have Apple Play, Apple Podcasts tuned in is now in your car. We have a Tesla, and in our car is tune in. And it's funny because we'll be driving and I'll be in the passenger seat and I'll be listen to my podcast. You never do. Because you're not your spouse is the person who will is the least likely to listen to your show, by the way, just letting you know. But you know what? The messaging is that people are going to listen if you have that there. And if you don't have that there, obviously they can't listen. If they can't engage you, then how do they know you're the expert? I think that one of the things that I've been verbiage that I've been using for the last couple of years is there are a lot of people out there who do great things and impact so many people, and they can impact more. But the reason they can't or they're not doing it is because they are the invisible expert. People don't know who they are. And people can change that trajectory for themselves just by changing their. I mean, podcasting is a marketing tool, yes, but they can change it by putting themselves out there. And a podcast is a great way to do that.

Kevin 23:54

We mentioned we talked about Joe Rogan and Oprah, and these are big names. And so you hear a name like that, and you think, well, I'm gonna be on the same platform as Joe Rogan, and that's intimidating. So I could see someone that's trying to get started thinking, How am I gonna take a listener from Joe Rogan and have him listen to me? But I think that's such an inappropriate way to think of podcasting. First of all, Joe Rogan's audience is very broad. You're gonna be very focused, I would assume. So don't get hung up on that either. I know it's the imposter syndrome, they call that in the entrepreneurial world. Um, but I would say don't get caught up on on the competition out there because so many people start podcasts and never are consistent, so they fall apart very, very quickly. So the amount of podcasts that are actually active is nowhere near what you think they are. And you can compete with Joe Rogan and Oprah if you have a different message to a different audience.

Carl 24:46

That's a very good way to frame it. And exactly, it's not a you're in a race. Is it the same foot race? In a way, but just because you're both running the Boston Marathon, you're running it for different reasons, you're running it for a different purpose. And who cares where you land? As long as you are, like you say, you are focused on what is that you want to talk about. You're targeting your content differently. And I love how you frame that about the competition. There are five basics, I call them the five myths why people don't start podcasts. And the competition myth is one of them. People are there that they're intimidated by the fact that there's too many out there. It's saturated, it is not saturated. I quite often will say, okay, if you think that's saturated, how many websites are out? But your business probably has a website. You don't want to be the last one in the Google search, but everyone starts somewhere. So, oh my goodness, Kevin, this has been a great conversation.

Real Estate Crash Report Resource

Carl 25:36

We can talk about this forever, but I want to give you the opportunity to share with our listeners, you have a great resource for people who are interested in the real estate space. Tell us about this uh report that you have.

Kevin 25:48

So the I wrote a report. So in real estate, there's ups and downs. Markets move, and people are very nervous because of 2008 when there was a credit crash. You know, that that took out more wealth out of the United States than even the Great Depression. Statistically, it was worse than the Great Depression. And a lot of us lived through that, right? When you go through a time like that, obviously it helps make millionaires too, by the way. More millionaires are made in downturns than upturns. But going through something like that is very scary. So when you see what's going on now, especially with an administration turnover and inflation that's really sticky, it's not moving, high interest rates trying to get that under control, unemployment not moving, which is surprising everybody, right? There's a lot of confusion and concern. Are we at a 2008 again? And how do I protect myself? So I wrote a report comparing now to that well, 2008 crash, but one that's more similar, which is the 1990s crash coming out of the savings and loans crisis. I don't want to go into a ton of detail with that. It's all in the report. So you could see exactly the similarities and differences between those two crashes to today and how we could prepare and protect our assets. So that's that pine report.com.

Carl 27:00

Fantastic. We'll make sure that link is in the show notes, Kevin, as well as we'll put a link to the podcast as well, which is the Real Estate Educators Podcast. The website will be there, all the social handles, it'll all be in the show notes for you to connect with Kevin. And I encourage you to do that. If you like what we've been chatting about today and you want to find out more about Kevin's journey and how he can support you, by all means, do that. Oh my goodness, Kevin. Before I turn you loose to either record another podcast episode or help somebody in the real estate space, I will give you the final thought.

Kevin 27:29

You told me to keep this short, and I'm going to. You also warned me that this was coming. I think about momentum, like done some spring cleaning around the house or something, and you just don't know where to start. Once you start, you know, start, move something, then something, then something else, and then you just start feeling good about yourself. And you just by the next thing you know, you're like in it and you want to keep working. So that's we call that momentum. And that's really one of the keys to business success is building that momentum. But you can't build momentum until you start. I'm saying this again, even though we've beaten this to death, Carl, you have to start. So I think I'd just end with a quote that don't underestimate the power of your actions. One small step can change your life.

Momentum Quote And Closing Messages

Carl 28:09

Kevin, that's a great place to end it. Kevin Amolsch, thank you so much for being my guest today. Thanks, Carl. And hey, thank you for being a part of the show today. So glad you could join us. Believe it or not, I can't work this magic by myself. So, thanks to my amazing team, our audio engineer Dom Carllo, our sonic branding genius Kenton Dobrowolski, and the person who works the arms, all of our arms actually, our project manager and my trusty assistant, Julovell Tiongco, known to us here simply as July. If you like what you heard today, let us know. You can leave us a comment or review or even send us a voice note. And if you really liked it, we hope you'll share with your friends and your colleagues. If you don't like what you heard today, well, please feel free to share with your enemies. And if you know of someone who would make a great guest on the show, let us know about it. You can get in touch with us by going to our show notes where all of our connection points are there, including the links to our website, LinkedIn, and Facebook as well. And if you're ready to be a guest on podcasts, or even start your own show, let's have a conversation. We'll show you the simplest way to get into the podcasting space and rock it. Because after all, we're podcast solutions made simple. Catch again next time.