Episode 141: Reviewing the Jags' 2026 Draft Picks and Their Potential Impact

In this episode of the Touchdown Jaguars! Podcast, host James Johnson breaks down the Jacksonville Jaguars’ 2026 draft class and tackles some of the biggest reactions surrounding it. From the criticism of Nate Boerkircher to the excitement around key additions, James separates the noise from what really matters.

He explains why the backlash over Boerkircher may be overblown, dives into why Emmanuel Pregnon could be one of the most impactful picks in the class, and highlights how Jalen Huskey has the tools to make an immediate impact on the field.

If you’re looking for smart analysis, strong opinions, and a clear-eyed look at the Jaguars’ future, this episode has you covered.

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James Johnson and Phil Barrera bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.

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Welcome to the Touchdown Jaguars Podcast. Here are your hosts, James Johnson and Phil Smith.

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All right, good people. Welcome back to the Touchdown Jaguars Podcast for episode 141. I am your host for today, James Johnson. We'll ride this one solo and we'll get Phil back on the next episode, which will be episode uh 142. And um, yeah, we'll get his thoughts and whatnot on the draft. But for the time being, I will manage solo Dolo here as he had some things to take care of. Um, but you all know me, uh, it's never an issue to do a solo pod. And that is exactly what we will do. Sorry for the delay, by the way, on the um the draft here. Of course, that's going to be the theme of this episode, right? We're getting to the draft a week after it's already passed. But still, nonetheless, we couldn't leave our listeners high and dry in regards to um getting you a podcast out about the draft and what transpired at the Jacksonville Jaguars made several picks, and um, a lot of people have had a lot to say about those picks. So we'll get into all of that later. But as I was saying, my apologies for the delay, life be life and as I like to say on this podcast. But fear not we're here. And I know while it has been a week after the draft, that a lot of you all still want to hear our thoughts and whatnot, or um, my thoughts, at least for this episode, on the draft. So again, we just didn't want to leave nobody high and dry in that regard. And um, you know, we have so many faithful listeners who we appreciate, and uh, it just would be doing them a disservice if we didn't talk about the NFL draft. So before we get into that, of course, um, I need to plug all our information. Um, you can most notably find us on Twitter and Instagram, that's where we're most active at. Uh, but we'll just plug the Twitter handles for the sake of this episode. Um, you can follow me at sportsgrind underscore done Phil at Phil the Filipino, who again, uh my co-host Phil Barrera, will be joining me next week. You can also follow our touchdown jaguars podcast handle on Twitter at TD Jags Pod, or excuse me, TD Jaguars Pod. And um also you could also feel free to follow our site, touchdownjads.com, which I hope to get some scouting reports on um on these draft picks eventually. Um, as I have seen film on everybody up until round three. And then the rest of the draft picks, um, I've only seen like highlights of, or I've probably seen a game of them last year when I was just watching TV, watching a game live or whatever, some college football live. Um, but all of that said, I've seen enough, especially of the early draft picks, uh, to where I felt like I could do an episode. And of course, with the guys in the fourth round and you know, the undrafted guys, eventually I will watch film on them too, and we could go more in depth on them um later, but we'll just kind of like we won't go as in depth with them right now. We'll mention them and you know what it means for the team and what have you. 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And um, yeah, we got you covered in terms of um, you know, helping you out with getting some tickets to whatever event it is. I know the MLB is popping right now, so you know, check that out for that. And also the NBA uh they're currently in the playoffs right now. Um, my Hawks, man, they they broke my heart, but that's okay, man. We'll bounce back. We got our two first round picks, uh, but not to veer away from the topic of football. But again, we just want to push our sponsor here, uh, which is Seat Geek, and we hope they could get you hooked up to uh your favorite event that um you know might be going on this summer. All right, ladies and gentlemen. So let's get right on into this draft. Um, as the 2026 draft has concluded, the Jacksonville Jaguars had a total of uh let me I want to make sure I get the number right here of how many picks they had here. They had, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten selections that they made. And they made a selection in each round, aside from the first round. Of course, we didn't have a first round pick because um, you know, we gave that up for the Travis Hunter trade. And we'll just get right into the first pick that we had of the night. A highly anticipated pick because, as I mentioned, we didn't have a first round pick. And um, you know, it was the first time in team history that that had happened. And, you know, after the summer that we we went through and the success we had last year, um, we knew that this second round pick would be important, although this wasn't the best draft class. So um, you know, of course, in a draft class like that, you want to have your first round pick so you could get um a starter. And we kind of talked about that too in the past, right on this podcast, is where the Jaguars were picking, they likely weren't gonna get a start. And a lot of people um I feel like needed to just have that understanding going into the draft. And it looks like that was not the case when looking at everybody's or not everybody, but a lot of people's thoughts on um this pick and the rest of the picks as well. So we we tried to tell you guys, and James Gladstone um even tried to warn you guys in advance in terms of it's a lot of this talk about the consists, uh, the consensus draft board and what have you. James Gladstone said it, hey man, we might veer away from who you are seeing us pick in these mock drafts and so on and so forth. And the league in general is kind of getting away from that as well. And I, you know, I've always told people, you know, um, shoutouts to my nephew. Um he was in the thread as well as we made the pick, and he was upset about it at first. Um, I think he's kind of warming up to it now. But um, you know, I've told people for many, many years, like, hey, the the draft boards that these teams have, that the 32 teams have, don't necessarily sync up with the consensus draft boards that you see um that consensus uh draft gurus come up with from you know your ESPNs and CBS sports and what have you, you know, all of those guys, Bleacher Report, they all come together, come to a consensus draft board. Um, but the teams, the 32 teams, might not necessarily, or their draft boards might not necessarily sync up with these draft boards. And when that doesn't happen, what you have is you know um a lot of players getting taken, and that was the case for the Jaguars draft, um, a little bit earlier than we were expecting, right? But make no mistake about it, the league wasn't shocked by what the Jacksonville Jaguars did to a degree, right? Because they had these players kind of ranked in a similar way, probably, at least some of the teams did, as the Jacksonville Jaguars. So it's a little bit less of a surprise for them. And you kind of heard that throughout the week, especially with this first pick that we made here. Um, it was pick number 56, which we'll get into a little bit. Um, but there was a um T-Wig, uh, he shared a little nugget where um there was a gentleman that works for Lock Thorn that was in Pittsburgh during the draft, and I think it was the Pittsburgh Steelers tight ends coach that had a little bit to say when the Jaguars took this young man, and um his thoughts were, hey, yeah, I really like that kid, right? And then you saw the run of tight ends that went to after the Jaguars took him. And there was, you know, there's a rumor out there that the Texans were gonna take him too. So it was no way the Jacksonville Jaguars were gonna let um their division rival get somebody they really, really like. So let's get into it here in terms of that pick. Um, you know, like with this podcast, I don't want to make it too, too long. I could probably speak on the guys in the first three rounds more, as I mentioned earlier, um, a little bit more in depth than the guys that were in the fourth rounds and afterwards. But still, I don't want to make this a long podcast for you all to listen to, but at the same time, I'll do my best to um give my best in-depth analysis on these players. But the Jacksonville Jaguars took with number uh with pick number 56, Nate Birkacher. Um, I mess his name up all the time. It's gonna take a little bit to get used to, but uh Nate Birkacher, uh tight end from Texas AM. As I said, um uh a very um controversial pick, at least in the Jazz community. When you look at all of the mock drafts that we were putting out as a Jaguars community, I'm not talking about people outside and even people outside of our um our circle too and our bubble as well. Um, nobody had Nate Burke going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I didn't see any mock drafts. It might be some out there, but I didn't see any with him going in the second round, and that has caused a lot of discussion, which I have already uh mentioned before. Of course, you know, a lot of us felt that the Jacksville Jaguars needed a tight end, but nobody was expecting us to take one that early. Um, but when, and James Gladstone talked about this, when he realized um where the league is going in terms of using 12 and 13 personnel, and you know, they are a little bit more in tune with what other teams might do than us, right? A lot of times we can see it and we've seen it in the Jaguars little draft documentaries or in the hunt at times, like when Trent Balkey was here. Um, you know, he would say, like, you know, they're gonna take this person. And when I say there, he's talking about the other teams. And you know, a lot of times he would be right. So the good GMs, and not saying Trent Balkey was a good one, he's far from it, but um, you know, knowledgeable GMs, should I say, do know or can kind of pinpoint what other teams are gonna do, not at a 100% rate or not get the whole order of these players right, but they could tell when somebody's on the clock, like, hey, they might go this route, they might go that route. And that's kind of what um affected James Gladstone's decision to go ahead and get Burkature. Of course, like again, you know, there were concerns that he might go to the Texans, as I mentioned. And when you start talking about that in a division, rival getting a player you really, really covet, you can't have that. And James Gladstone took this guy as a result. And Burkatcher is a guy who um he started his career at Nebraska from 2020 to 2024. And you know, the big discussion about him is he doesn't have a lot of catches to his name. His last year at Texas AM, he only had 19 catches for 198 in terms of receiving yards and three touchdowns. Total in his career, he's caught 38 career passes for 417 yards. Uh 6'5, 245 pounds. Again, started his career in Nebraska. He's from Nebraska. Um, so that was like a dream come true for him. He kind of mentioned that um in at least one of his um his interviews with the media. Um went there from 2020 to 2024, eventually transferred to Texas AM, who use a wide array of um tight ends. You know, they got a big depth chart of tight ends, and they use a variety of tight ends. Um, but yeah, uh transferred to Texas AM for the 2025 season. And um, in terms of my notes, I watched, I think two games of them. I probably seen more than two games of them, honestly, when considering the games that I just watched, like college football games that I watched last year, just watching them, you know, as a like not for film study purposes, but just watching TV as you you like to do on a weekend in the fall, right? Um, so I probably seen them a lot more than my mind can recollect. But um, in terms of my you know, my notes, I saw a player who, despite all of the jokes, and they they probably were just like literally joking about this, you know, people online and on Twitter. Um, but despite the jokes about his stats and how hard people were trying to put it out there that it would be to find his um his stats. And I think Phil even made a joke about it too, man. That's what Phil does, man, right? Shoutouts to Phil. Um, but despite that, man, upon turning on my first like game of him, um, it was not hard to find um out why the Jacksonville Jaguars won this young man like in the first drive, and I forgot the game. It was actually it was the Florida Gators, because I love watching the Florida Gators get their behinds beat, right? Y'all you all know my history as a Georgia Bulldog fan. So um that was one of the first games, like full games, because I like to watch full games and not like highlights, but that was one of the first full games I could find to evaluate Birkature, and I think I went to that game too because um that was one of his higher graded games on PFF. I had to pull out the PFF stats and whatnot. Um, but yeah, I watched the game with Florida, first drive man. Um, he goes back into the backfield, and um he's playing as an H back. So that's one of the you know the key elements to his game and why he was drafted is the versatility. But he goes into the backfield as an H back. Um and they go in like an I formation on the goal line. He clears a path for the running back. Running back gets in there pretty easily. Uh so that that speaks for his physicality and his ability to block, which is a big reason he was um drafted, and a lot of scouting reports mention his blocking ability um as an inline blocker. That also goes back to what I was saying as an H back two when he he did that as well. But as an inline blocker, man, I saw a physical young man who was able to um move people off the ball relatively easy. A lot of times when the ball was um, you know, when the ball carrier, um the running back, went to his side, he would end up with three, four, five, six yards, you know. Like, and I think like this is something that the team and the front office evaluated last year and said that they wanted to get better with. And when I say they, I mean what I'm talking about here and I'm alluding to here is um the physicality and moving people off the ball and being able to run the ball a little bit better than we previously were. Now, look, we ran the ball um a lot better than we did um when Trent Balkey was here um last year in 2025, and we even drafted two running backs, and we got a new running back in Rodriguez this year in free agency. So we ran the ball better than we previously did, but you can still tell that improvement was needed, right? And you know, I I hate to keep harping on the man and going back to him, but a lot of what is going on with the Jacksonville Jaguars, you have to go back to Trent Balkey, and he was a big time issue for this team. And the reason I'm going back to him is because so the thing about Trent Balkey, and I might have said this on the podcast, right, is he got caught up in all of this thing, like the these things like traits and physical ability. So, like our team would literally, and we've heard people say this, the analysts and all of these people say it. Uh Chris Sims was one of them who said it. Like, you look at the Jacksonville Jaguars and they look like the more physically imposing team, nine times out of ten in terms of when they line up against another team, right? They have the look, right? And that's what Balkey, you know, Balky kind of made the roster that way because he's so caught up in traits and height and weight, right? Um, so nine times out of ten, we go on the field looking like the more physical team. But as the game went on, it was clear, you know, at least in his regime and his time here, that we weren't the more the more physical team. And the reason I bring this up is because you know what it reminds me of? Like when, and and a lot of us can kind of reflect on this and kind of um draw a parallel to this. Like, you know, when you were like in high school, right? And you see a team across the field that you're going against, you know, whoever you're playing, and you watch them on film the week before, and they look like the bigger, physically, more uh more physically imposing team. They got some D1 prospects on their right, all of this good stuff, but they clearly look like the bigger team, bigger than the team that you play on before you take the field. We'll just use football for an example, or you can use basketball before you take the court, whatever the case may be. But when you get on the field and you get about two quarters in, right? Or three quarters in, and you look at the scoreboard, and the scoreboard's dead even, or you're down by, you know, just one touchdown, or um, you're down by three points if you just, you know, you get in halftime. We're talking about basketball if you want to make a basketball parallel, and it starts to dawn on you, right? That this team that we're facing, while they're bigger than us, and they got a lot of D1 potential prospects and D1 prospects on this team, they're not a team that's unbeatable. And we got a chance and we could beat this team. And we got so caught up in the look of this team to the point where it's like, hey, this team is not all as hyped up to be, and it's not all um not all as intimidating as you know we thought they would be. And then by the fourth quarter, you end up winning the game. We all can kind of relate to something like that where you go on the field or the hardwood court, caught up and a little bit intimidated by the team that you're playing, and then you come to find out like they're a little bit softer than you thought they were, right? That was the Jacksonville Jaguars, right? We had the look. And again, I think I've talked about this in the past. We had the look. But when teams lined up against us and got on the field and started playing us and getting a feel for us, it became clear in their minds, like, this team is just a big team that we can outperform. And heck, it's the NFL. So, like, most of these players knew it before they even took the field because of watching the film on them, right? Like, look, they are they're all Bart but no bite type of thing. That was Trent Balkey's thing. He built the all Bart but no bite type of team, and this next regime has to clean that up, right? So you have a team that has to draft a Nate Borkatcher after Trent Balkey had already drafted a guy in Brenton Strange. And the funny thing about it is the reason that he drafted, remember when they drafted Brenton Strange and Tank Bigsby, it was because we needed more physicality, right? He failed so massively at making the team more physical. The next regime is literally have to is having to go back and clean up what he missed on, and he didn't miss on strange. I'm just saying he missed on the element of making this team more physical, right? They're having to go through a lot of the same process that he had to go through making the more the team more physical because he failed massively at that. And here we are, and that, you know, I didn't want to go down memory lane, but that is why you see picks like this and the rest of these picks as well, where Trent Balk just failed on the physicality part of it, right? And this next regime has to fix that. But Burkatcher was a guy who um, you know, did not struggle to move people off the ball, did not struggle to help his running back gain, you know, four to five or whatever the case may be, yards when the ball um was ran or uh run to his side. You know, he to me, he felt like a heavy-handed tight end in terms of uh when it came to blocking. Um, he has good range too in terms of the catching. He has limited catches, but he could clearly catch. And they should have used him more than they did in terms of the passing game at Texas AM. Because he has soft hands and he has good range. And a lot of his catches were, you know, catches where he had to go well beyond his body to catch them, right? But again, what you see in college and you know, I see this a lot in Georgia, right? Um, is where a lot of these great players don't get used to the best of their ability or get used at the the the thing that they excel in the most, right? Or I don't even want to say excel in in the most in um in Nate's case, but they don't get to showcase a skill set that they have um as much as they should have uh received the opportunity to. And again, I see this a lot with Georgia, where they have so many five-star recruits, right? Where it just gets to a point where the the five-star recruiting the player, especially on defense, we kind of seen that with that historic Georgia defense, right? Um, where you're just so willing to get on the field to the point you don't care if the position that you're playing is one that doesn't showcase your talent as as well as it should. Because at the end of the day, you know the NFL scouts are still gonna sift through it and find out what you you're good at anyway on their own, right? So, like some of these players don't put a lot into playing a position where they get to show their talents as much as they would like because again, as I said, the NFL eventually will figure it out for them. But it's it's it's a lot of times where you see so much talent on the field where these players just had to play where they could play, right? Where there's a spot available. And that Georgia defense that I just mentioned was like that. Trayvon Walker was a prime example, man. We didn't really get to see Trayvon Walker rush the passer like he's rushing the passer in in the NFL right now. You know, it was a situation where the scouts had to see it for themselves, see his potential for, you know, see that potential for themselves and say, like, hey, you know, he didn't get to rush the passer as much as he should have. But we've seen glimpses and flashes of it on when he does. And this is something that, you know, as he gets more repetition with, he'll only become better with. And we feel comfortable with taking him off of that potential alone, although, you know, we haven't seen it as much as we would have liked, right? And of course, that was a big deal because, you know, it was the discussion between him and Aiden Hutchison, right? And, you know, lo and behold, look, he's not a good as good of a pass rusher as Hutchinson, but he's a lot better at it than we saw at the University of Georgia. It's the kind of the same concept that they're gonna take with Nate here, is they see the potential in him as a passing threat, and they're just gonna have to see if he can reach that potential and take a gamble a little bit as a pass catcher in the league, and they think he's more than willing to do it. And a lot of it is also this. We mentioned this on the podcast, too, is the Jacksonville Jaguars just have faith in their system, not just their schematic system, but their system in terms of the coaches they have to draw the talent out of Nate Birkincher. And you know, we have a former Jaguar that's our tight ends coaching Richard N'Gulo, who was a pretty decent receiver, by the way. Um, so I feel confident that he can get um the receiving skills that are needed out of Birkacher. But make no mistake about it, like they got him again for 12 and 13 personnel purposes, is for his blocking ability. And because they already have Brenton Strange, who is a dual thread guy, he can do a little bit of everything. Um, but when when you look at where the league is heading, the Rams, right? And these other teams, getting more big guys on the field that can move is how you get the edge on the defenses um that are being played these days, which you know, these defenses are going lighter with a lot of nickel and and so on and so forth. So I am excited about this pick. Like I didn't come in this to this situation when the grade these picks, but I mean if you made me give it a grade, I would say, you know, maybe for now, like a C plus or a B minus, right? You know, because of the um the ability for the Jaguars to have the forethought to kind of look into the future and when the league is going, you kind of have to give the pick a little bit better of a grade than a lot of the analysts are, right? So when you factor that into it, I think I would, you know, grade it a little bit higher than others. But yeah, man, um I can't wait to see this young man and uh what he brings to the table. And um, I I think you know he's gonna fit right in and he's gonna bring us that. And and that's another thing. There's so many people so upset with the pick, man. This dude embodies Duval, man, like a small country guy. I mean, I would have to think he's from the country because he, you know, he went to he was from Nebraska, right? A small country guy, man, that brings that, you know, uh that lunch pale mentality to work, man. He was a walk-on for crying out loud. So he worked hard to get where he was, and he was a walk-on when he went to Texas AM too, and you know, eventually found himself getting on the field and and making some noise, man. But this guy embodies Duval, man. So I'm a little bit confused as to why. And it and again, it might be where he was taken. You know, people might feel like he should have been taken later in the draft, but I just explained why that couldn't happen because the Texans probably would have snagged him. But um, yeah, man, this is a guy that, like, you know, if you truly got Duval in your heart, man, I don't see why you wouldn't embrace this kid. And I don't see why you wouldn't believe that this kid can reach his full potential. So we'll go on to the next pick. Um, I spent a more time than I wanted to on that one. Um, but you know, it was a lot to talk about because that was the most controversial one. We'll go right into it and we'll try and make these other ones a little bit speedier here. Uh, Albert Regis, um, we got a DT also from Texas AM. The Jaguars took him number 81 overall. They traded up um with a team. I forgot who I think it was the Panthers that they traded up uh with to get him um to take him 81st overall. Albert Regis, um 6'1, 295 pounds. We all knew that the Jacksonville Jaguars, and we had been like just discussing it heavily because it's such an important position at peace for the Jaguars to get over the hump, is you know, get a defensive tackle who could rush the passer. Um, but yeah, um 6'1, 295 pounds, played with AM from 2021 to 2025, um, register a career of 3.5 sacks, so he wasn't a sack heavy guy. And that was because he was playing a lot of nose tackles. So just think like he's he was serving the Devon Hamilton role for this defense. Again, you just have to get on the field however you can, wherever there's a spot, even though even if it doesn't showcase your abilities and you know what you're best at. You just have to take a spot on the field and get on the field where you can, especially with a a team loaded with defensive talent like Texas AM, right? Um, but yeah, uh he got two of his uh sacks in 2025. Um, he got three tackles for a loss. Uh he had also 10 pass breakups, and um nine of those came over the last two seasons. This is a young man who um I think it was the um NFL Stock Exchange podcast, shoutouts to them. Um, or it could have been another podcast, but I'm I might be putting this on the wrong podcast. But if it was the uh NFL Stock Exchange Exchange, shout outs to them. Um, but it was somebody saying, like, you know, Regis's role with this defense, and it was it was funny. The I watched Regis um in two games too, because all I had to do when I was walking uh watching Nate is turn to the defensive side of the ball and watch him as well. So I watched the same game for both players, but um I was just simply saying it was a podcast out there or a media uh entity that mentioned that you know a lot of what will make you fascinated with Regis here is that he did a lot of the dirty work to free up all of these guys we had been talking about in the draft coming to us, right? All of these other players that's on that Texas AM defense. Um he he freed them up in terms of doing all of the dirty work for them. And um, in terms of him, though, like on in terms of the notes that I have here, man, right off the rip, you you you can see the good pursuit, man. Like he'll chase a quarterback all the way to freaking Palatka if he had to when he takes that field, man. But just his motor is always going, always in pursuit of the quarterback, regardless of how wide the play goes, or not even just the quarterback, but the running back, man, just always running to the ball full speed, man. This guy only has one gear. But that was one thing that stood out to me. Uh, he was good at holding the point of attack. And this is something Liam kind of mentioned too, but I I noticed it on film as well. Um, even though, you know, you could say this guy was undersized to be a nose tackle, but um, when you are 6'1 and you you have the lower body strength and you can stay low to the ground, uh, you can survive at nose tackle, right? And that that's what you know he did there at Texas AM. Um, but yeah, even when he was doubled man, he was good at holding his own. We all saw the East West Shrine game cuts of him as well um doing his thing. And you kind of can see like the pass rushing aspect that he can bring to a team in those cuts. But a lot of people think, you know, he'll more so be a three-technique. Again, the pass rushing ability isn't there yet. But James Gladstone talked about this, right? In terms of a lot of these defensive tackles typically just come into the league as uh um dominant run stuff or more so than um uh a dominant pass rusher, and they kind of have to learn how to become a dominant pass rusher in the league. So, not even shocked that they took this young man just based on what James Gladstone said. It was all in the tea leaves, and we just had to listen to the freaking draft um conversation that he had at the draft luncheon with the media. Um, I also like his, you know, he had solid time in his disengagement with offensive linemen too. So he did a good job of just kind of watching the running back, watching the quarterback um while they were in the backfield and timing his disengagement. And this is a guy I just simply, you know, I can't wait uh to see him pair with Rukh Aurora and see if they can provide that pass rush that we need. Um, I definitely think Ruke, even though Rukay is pretty young himself, um, can help him in that regard and you know help school him up. And a lot of these um, these the the coaches, of course, and the veterans too as well. I think he can learn a lot from Devon Hamilton as well. But he's another guy who, you know, as the Jaguars like to say, they were hunting up that they really, really liked. They spoke highly of. And when you you you hear him talk to the media, you can just absolutely feel the Jaguar DNA in him in terms of what they look for, right? Intangibly rich. Um, you know, he I'll have to go back and look. He probably was a team captain, which you know that's significant on a Texas AM squad that was as loaded as you know, they were um highly intelligent, young man, family man as well, off the field, already got a kid, and um he's married as well. As you all saw the video, his little girl chose the Jaguar Cup. They they put her on the floor to let her crawl to whatever team that she um wanted her dad to go to, right? And um, you know, he ended up going to the Jaguar. So that's an incredible, incredible story there. Um, welcome to Jacksonville, by the way, little one. Uh, you did good. You did good, and you you did see the future, like uh Raven, Raven Simone, and that's so Raven. But yeah, Albert Regis is not a guy, you know, like that, you know, I was thinking that they would go with when considering what was on the board, right? Grayson Holton on the board. Um, I think the McClellan kid was still there as well, too. Um, so you know, that kind of threw me off. But again, once I heard him talk and watched his film and um, you know, he had his meeting with the media, it then became clear to me, okay, like, you know, the Jaguars are doing, not only are they doing things their way, but this guy does have um that Jaguar DNA. Um, he's a guy that I could absolutely see Tony Boselli, even though Tony Boselli was an offensive lineman, really loving and banging the table for. So I wouldn't be shocked if Boselli loved him. Of course, I know that Gladstone and Liam did as well, but um time will tell if he can provide that push in the pocket and learn to become a better pass rusher in terms of when he's in the league. But again, with how the Jaguar system worked, they clearly believe that the coaches can get the talent out of him. And you know, when looking at his career, there's nothing that says that they couldn't get the talent out of him with his hard work ethic and um just his commitment to the game of football. All right, so next we'll get into the next pick after Regis. And now we'll start kind of rattling through him a little bit quicker. The next pick that the Jaguars had was a pick number 88. This was probably everybody's favorite pick of the draft, Emmanuel Pregnant, who I thought would not be available when the Jaguars picked in the second round, let alone the third round. So I feel like they struck goal, and many people agree with that. Uh, so this is something that we all are a lot of us are on the same page with in terms of the Jazz community, and even the national pundits really like this pick. But you all already heard me talk about him, you know, in the pod before last. So I don't really need to go into detail about him. But you know, I mentioned his physicality and just a straight up role grader, man. And like he's a guy that I literally said that you could tell, like, he is not going to be cool with anybody touching Trevor Lawrence at all, in any way, shape, or form. They asked him about this. Um, or no, no, they didn't ask him about it. The media did, he kind of mentioned it, man. And he was like, Man, look, man, basically, in a nutshell, I'm just paraphrasing, I'm not gonna play that about anybody touching Trevor Lawrence. He's not gonna have to worry about me holding down things, so on and so forth. And he even said, quote unquote, when I'm on the field, if he he needs to sit on the toilet when he's in the pocket, don't want to gross nobody out. But um, if he wanted to sit on the toilet when I'm uh when I'm blocking for him, if he wants to do that in the pocket, I'm gonna allow it. So again, like I can sense that before we even drafted him, man. You can sense it in his play that he don't play about his quarterback, man. And he he's mentioned how he wants to impose his will on the opposition. You see it in, you know, how he play, he plays after the whistle sometimes, right? You know, and of course, that could lead to penalties, and you know, you have to have control chaos. I'm not saying this guy's gonna be a penalty machine, but it's just at the same time, you like to see that a little bit. You like to see that extra shove after the whistle, right, man? Um, so speaking on like going back to earlier what I said about um Nate, I think that Jazz fans will especially gravitate to pregnant too, um, because he's just kind of he's got that gritty Duvall feel to him, too, that fans will gravitate towards. So um, not really a lot to talk about there, man. Like they needed an offensive lineman, man. You feel like I would feel like at least, and I think a lot of people agree that um he probably will take over for Patrick McCari because you know, we've said, let's face it, Patrick McCari has been a bust of a free agent pick, even though he does give you versatility, you know what I'm saying? And you know, he does give you depth if something happens to a starter. Um, but it's clear that he don't belong in the starting lineup, and he played way too much in the starting lineup last year, and they paid him a lot of money to be a starter, but he just he he's not the answer at right guard. So I would like to see Pregnant take his spot in the summer if that's possible. And don't forget, we got you know Wyatt Millam last year as well, too. So, you know, maybe he'll battle Ezra Cleveland on the other side. But um, you know, some similarities there between him and Millum um in terms of the physical edge they play with. Uh Millam a little bit more versatile, but um, you can see the type alignment that the Jacksonville Jaguars like when you look at those two selections. If I didn't state pregnant, um he went to the University of Oregon from 2023, excuse me, 2023 to uh actually he went to USC, uh, which you know, of course, we got Tony Boselli who has ties to USC, but from 2023 to 2024, he went to USC. Um, and then in 2020 to 2022, he was at Wyoming. He played his last year at Oregon for Dan Lannon and company. Very familiar with Dan Lannon. Um, from he was formerly the defensive coordinator from the the University of Georgia. So I'm familiar with him and the physicality he likes his players to play with. Pregnon, and I mentioned this in that podcast two weeks ago. Pregnon is absolutely a Dan Lannon, Kirby Smart type of prospect through and through when you look at the edge that he plays with. Uh so in 2025, he was all Big Ten um selection, and he was second team all big ten in 2024. He is the third player from Oregon selected by the Jaguars. And the first sense, George Ryster. Y'all remember tight end George Ryster back in the day? Um, but this is a huge addition for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you gotta feel like Trevor Lawrence absolutely is gonna love it. And um also, too, you know what how they want to run the ball a little bit better, man. Like this is gonna be better for um Lequent and Bachel and Rodriguez as well, man. You you're gonna see a lot of good gains when when the ball is being um ran to his side, man. So I can't wait, man, and just combining his skill with um with Nate's man. We definitely are gonna see a lot more physicality in the trenches on the offensive side of the ball for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So, in terms of um, I kind of didn't even give a grade for these two picks. Um, I gave one for Nate, but not Regis and Pregnant. Uh Regis, I'll give a similar grade, like a C, um, that I gave to Nate. And then Pregnant is an A plus. A plus, absolutely, man. Like that great pick, man. Shocked that he was even available at that point. Uh, next third round pick, Jalen Husky from the University of Maryland. Um, he's a guy that, you know, he kind of bounced around from place to place, but last year was at Maryland um and also played 2024 there. Um, 2022 to 2023, he was at Bowling Green. We got a six foot one, 192-pound prospect. He's played some cornerback. I think he played cornerback earlier um in his career. Um, the games that I watched with him, I think was Indiana, the full game. And um it was one more game that's escaping me right now. But um, he's a guy, man, that you can you can absolutely see and sense the physicality he plays with. Um, he is a high-energy guy as well. Um, you know, similar energy to like a Jarian Jones, right? And a Jalen Ramsey tight in terms of the energy he brings. Great at reading the quarterback, man, always keeping his eyes on the quarterback and flowing to the ball while doing that. Um, doesn't have blazing speed, um, but did a good job of keeping things in front of him in the scheme that he played in in Maryland. Um, and I think that's a that's a key as to why he liked to keep things in front of him, doesn't have blazing speed, you know. He's a guy that you do have concerns for um in terms of he will, you know, I don't think he has the speed to veer somebody from hitting the corner. You know, that's a concern with him. Um but when you look at him in comparison to a lot of these other guys we were looking at with the Jaguars taking, which a lot of us had, you know, the Jaguars taking the safety with this pick in our mock drafts, like a Genesis Smith and uh Ramsey from USC and what have you. When you look at Husky on film, and he's a guy that I hadn't watched until we drafted him, but he doesn't feel that far off in terms of what he would grade from those guys I mentioned, from a Genesis Smith and a Ramsey. Um and I feel like he should have been, you know, after watching him on film, he should have been mentioned a little bit more in terms of going in the third or fourth round than he was. Um, didn't really see any any drafts with him, you know, going that high. But I think he should have been because he doesn't feel that far off in terms of what he should what he would grade from the prospects that I mentioned. And um Wheatley was another one from um Penn State. He don't feel that far off in terms of those prospects. So um I really like that pick, man. I already got his his nickname, man. And I put it out in a tweet on the timeline. Jalen the gets they talking about Husky, man. Um as you if y'all saw the video, y'all know what I'm talking about there. He was at uh top golf celebrating and and what have you with his family. Congratulations to him. Uh, this is a pick I would give uh, you know, I won't give it as high as the Pregnant pick, but more so like a B minus, something like that. He's a guy, man, that like when you go to training camp, he's gonna be in scraps. And I mentioned this on the timeline. He's gonna be in scraps with Bachel. He's gonna be in scraps with LeQent Allen, like a hundred percent chance of it because of how he plays and just his mentality, right? Um, and that's needed, right? It's needed, and you know, of course, when you're at training camp, it's high. And it don't take that much to set you off as it is, man. But you know, the defense could use a little bit more of an edge in a player like this. So I like the Jalen Husky pick. When looking at the scheme that Maryland used, I absolutely not shocked that the Chad Wars would have interest in a young man like Husky. And, you know, he he adds to a room now where we lost Dewey. As I mentioned, that's why I was saying we needed a safety in the mock draft episode. But, you know, Dewey left. Eric Murray's up there in age, not saying like, you know, he still ain't got no juice left in the tank. But Eric Murray's getting up there in age, and you never know what's going to happen with Antonio Johnson, who we hope we could keep, you know, and got high PFF grades, the highest graded safety in PFF or on PFF. But you just never know if you can or can't. And it does help to have insurance like a Jalen Husky. All right. And for these next few picks, I'll try and go through them rapid fire because we're getting up there in time in terms of how long this podcast is getting. And you know, I don't like to make them long-winded for you all. Um, but somehow we're pushing the 50-minute mark, it would seem here. But yeah, we'll go through them rapid fire. In the fourth round, the Jaguars made one selection uh with pick number 119. They went with a defensive end in Wesley Williams. Um, and while this is a position that a lot of people pointed to in their mock drafts is one that the Jaguars needed to address. A lot of people aren't happy with this pick and kind of look at it in the same lens as the pick in the second round with uh Nate Burkecher. Um, but that being said, though, um we got a gentleman here in Wesley Williams from Duke, uh 6'4, 256 pounds, went to Duke and attended there uh from 2022 to 2025. He registered 11 career sacks, 29 tackles for loss, and uh he had 7.5 sacks, uh, which was his highest total in terms of a um year-to-year basis in 2024. Of course, when you look at that sack number in totality, um, the 11 career sacks, of course, a lot of people are down on that. Um, but we've seen it in this league, right? Um the the people and the the executives and the coaches in the league more so uh gravitate towards pressures, and that's kind of where this young man made his money at Duke. Where fans and your fantasy people more so um gravitate towards the sacks, right? When it comes to these things and evaluating um pass rushers and defensive ends. Um when you look at him, he does feel like the replacement for Dewan Smoot potentially, who I think Dewan Smoot uh is a free agent at this moment. You know, you never know, they might bring him back and have him mentor this young man. But it does, it does feel like he is um a replacement for Dewan Smoot. In terms of my notes, I'll go through them real quick. Um, what I wrote on him. And I think I have seen Wesley in like a full game. Um, but strong bull rush is one thing that caught my eye. Uh it shows the ability to dip underneath offensive linemen. So you always like to see that at 6'4, the ability to go up and under. And then, as I previously mentioned, one thing I got circled here is he's probably more of a pressure machine than anything. But um we we knew that the Jacksonville Jaguars needed some depth behind Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines Allen. They addressed it just not with the particular pass rusher that people wanted and not in the round that people wanted. Um, but they did nonetheless address um, you know, getting some help behind those two. And uh yeah, no, he'll he'll now join forces with the likes of BJ Green and uh Stragal as well. All right, going to the next pick again. We're gonna try and make these rapid fire. Uh the Jaguars made a pick in the fifth round after that. Um, the fifth round pick was for Tanner Cozyall of Houston. They selected him with pick number 164. Loved his film. Again, like a lot of these guys after the fourth round, I saw highlights of um more so than anything, but I did um get to catch some film of Cozy All as well, now that I'm thinking about it. A 6'6, 245 pounds. And I if I can recall, Mia O'Brien said this that he's he was the um most active receiving tight end aside from Harold Fanning Jr., who went to the Browns last year, if I can recall, um, within the last 10 years. But yeah, that kind of just shows you like how much of a weapon he was um for Houston and the Cougars. And, you know, more so of a uh a slot guy than an inline guy, um, whereas Tanner, uh not Tanner Cozy all, but whereas Nate Burkecher is more so an inline guy who will have to work on the receiving side of things. So um they're they're different in that regard, but still again, when looking at the the desire for offensive to go to more 12 and 13 personnel, this makes so much sense. In terms of his stats, um, he accumulated 237 collegiate career passes for 2,234 yards and 24 touchdowns. In his last year at Houston in 2025, he accumulated 74 receptions for 727 yards and six touchdowns. And if I can recall, he was um their leader in receiving. If I can recall, I have to go back and look at that and fact check myself. Um, but yeah, he um attended Houston and uh the J Warsite said he also went to Ball State for a little bit of time as well. He was a first team All Big 12 selection in 2025, so last year he was, and a second team all mid-American Conference selection in 2024, and third team all Mac selection in 2023. So he's he's got the accolades for sure. Obviously, you would, you know, when you you are as active of a pass catcher as he is at the tight end position. Love this film, man. As I said earlier, in terms of my notes here, and again, I just put brief notes here, they want to make it long and wordy here, but um good hands. He he he showed soft hands many, many times when I watched him on film. Um wide catch radius, you know, it was a lot of catches he had to extend uh his body to get, and it was no problem with doing it. Uh so you know that would indicate that he would definitely be a great wet red zone threat. Um, can catch in traffic as well. He caught a lot of passes in traffic um and showed good concentration in the process because when you're catching in traffic, of course, uh concentration is big. A reoccurring trend here, by the way, when you look at the pass catchers, there's some more that we're gonna mention here in a little bit, but they all have good hands. And it's clear that the Jaguars are tired of drops, and so am I. So I'm right there with them. And I've always wondered when a regime would attack this, whether it was Balkey's regime or this regime will attack that issue of drop passes, and it looks like the Jaguars are trying to do so. The current regime is trying to do so at least. Um, not really a separator, is another note I got. When he's coming out of his break, he doesn't really get a lot of separation, which is why he catches a lot of balls in traffic, but that's okay when you have the catch radius that he has and the catch um concentration that he has as well. Um it's no issue with with catching a ball with a receiver or a defender blanketed over you. Um, one thing I also noticed he's likely to go down by the first tackler. Um, it were it was times where he broke tackles, but more times than not, he um he he went down with the first tackler. Um and lastly, I put that he has great body control, uh, which you can kind of see how he balances himself after catching a pass that you know he had to extend for. And you know, just how he moves in general after the catch, you know, if he isn't brought down by that first defender. So those were some notes um that I had on um cozy all. I really, really like this pick. And um, this is a guy I'll be watching in training camp because you know, in training camp, when the pads aren't on and the OTAs, that is the time where guys like this shine, you know, your big body uh receiving threat type of guy. So we'll see uh what the deal is with Cozy Y'all. And then for our next pick, we made two selections in the sixth round. The first one was for Josh Cameron, wide receiver from Baylor. Um we picked him with the number 191 pick overall. Cameron is six foot one, 200 pounds, played at Baylor from 2021 to 2025. Um, so he stayed there for quite a while, which is kind of rare in this day and age in college football. But you like that commitment and loyalty. That's a good thing to see in this day and age. And there's nothing wrong with going into the transfor portal and finding a better fit. Um, but yeah, he stayed loyal to the Baylor Bears, caught 170 career passes for 2,236 yards and 19 touchdowns. Last year, he caught 69 receptions for 872 yards and nine touchdowns. And then the year before that, he had 52 catches for 740 or 754 yards and 10 touchdowns. He also has 45 career punts and has an average of 14.0 yards per carry as a punt returner, which is always huge. And that's something that the Jaguars will always emphasize with this new regime and that they talk about frequently getting late-round guys that can help in special teams, right? Or help on special teams. So that's almost like a necessity at that point because you probably aren't going to see a lot of time on the field at your core position on offense or defense. So you got to have a way to contribute um to the team, although you might not be a top-to-depth chart. So that's something that um we'll watch and monitor with him. As of course, you you're not gonna want Parker Washington, your top, one of your top receivers, at least, um, catching a lot of punts and fielding a lot of punts. Um, and he's about to sign a big time deal sometime in the near future, we hope. Uh so you would like to protect him. But in terms of Cameron, man, really liked his film too. Um, superb at adjusting to the ball in the air, is one thing I got in my notes here. Um, a fade route master. He caught a lot of fade routes over there in Baylor. I'm also can catch in traffic like cozy, y'all. Um, breaks tackle and uh refuses to go down is another thing that I have here. Like it was hard to break him, uh bring him down. And it's kind of fitting because he he wore like the number 34 or something, even though he was playing receiver. Um he played like a running back when the ball was in his hands at times. So um it was kind of fitting, even though it was kind of weird to see a receiver out there wearing the number 34. Um, but yeah, you can see some technique in his route running too. Of course, you know, he'll have to work on it a little bit more in the league and whatnot, but he definitely has a uh a stepping stone to start with in terms of his route running. And yeah, he'll battle for that number five or six spot, you know, at the receiver um depth chart or within the receiver's depth chart. And he's a guy that you can you can clearly tell is gonna work hard day after day, especially after you know what he was saying to the media, but work hard day by day. Uh, he was really, really excited and elated to be drafted by the Jaguars. So there's always that. Those are always the ones that'll work their behinds off. He has plenty of mentors and people he can learn from in that room, between Jacoby Myers, of course, that's the first one that comes to mind, and Parker Washington. You know, those two have been in the league at least four years or more. Um, even you know, BTJ will probably help him out, even though he's on a little bit on the quieter end. Travis Hunter never has any issues with talking to anybody. Like he's a very talkative and lively person, so he definitely uh wouldn't mind helping out Cameron along the way as well. And you know, it'll be exciting to see where this young man gels with the team. So we'll continue on here. We're doing them rapid fire here. Another six-round pick here that we had. Also a receiver in CJ Williams. Um, I was impressed by his film too, and I enjoyed watching his film. He last went to Stanford, but he made stops in like Wisconsin, and it may have been one more place before that. USC. Yeah, it was USC as well. And um, of course, we have the USC tires through Tony Boselli. Um, but his receiver's coach passed at USC, so he then decided to go to Wisconsin, which we all know that's like an offensive line factory. So they didn't throw the ball all that much, and then he found his way to Stanford, uh, where he was, you know, by my eyes, like their best receiver on the offense, um, at least last year. So he caught a career total of 94 passes for 1,179 yards and eight touchdowns. Um, and last year he caught 59 receptions for 749 yards and six touchdowns. In terms of my notes here, um, I keep seeing Zay Jones when I watch this kid for some reason. If you take Zay Jones' double move ability out of the equation and you kind of just zone in on the other things that he does, well, he reminds me of this kid. Or should I say this kid reminds me of Zay Jones? So, yeah, let me know what y'all think of that. Like, are y'all seeing Zay Jones as well? Uh, very acrobatic receiver. He made some acrobatic catches um during his time at Stanford. I only watched like highlights of his Stanford tape. I didn't watch when he was with uh USC or Wisconsin. Um, he had good hand-eye coordination from everything that I saw as well, man. And um again, another guy, you know, you kind of feel like he might be the replacement for like Tim Patrick, right? Even though he doesn't have the height that Tim Patrick has. Um, but you you get vibes that he might be the Tim Patrick replacement. Um and it, you know, it wouldn't be shocking if he makes the team as receiver number five or number six, after, of course, the the notable guys that we've talked about already. Next up, we have um picks in the seventh round, two picks that were in the seventh round made to help out the defense here. First one is Zach Durfe, who um, you know, the moral of his story is he was injured a lot. Um, he was dealing with some elbow stuff. Um, I know the COVID season kind of interfered um with his ability to get on the field in some way, shape, or form, too, if I can recall. And yeah, he only played in like eight 18 FBS games. So the experience is not there in terms of uh the body of work you were like. But look, that's why he fell to the seventh round, right? And that's why you don't have a problem with taking a chance on him when you're talking about a seventh round pick. It's not like you're gonna be paying him a boatload of money. You take a swing for the fences, right? And it's a high risk or a high reward, low risk type of signing. Um, Durfee is six foot five, 256 pounds, played with Washington from 2024 to 2025. And then I think before that he played with Sioux Falls, uh, where he he had a pretty good run with Sioux Falls. I don't have the stats here, but I do remember reading up on that. Um while with Washington, he registered 6.5 sacks and 8.5 tackle for losses last year, um, or in totality with Washington. And then he had uh four sacks and five tackles for loss last year with the Huskies. Um he's a guy that in terms of the film, um, I saw a sneaky athlete, good change of direction, in my opinion. Great in pursuit, like that was the number one thing that stood out, like just always in pursuit like of the quarterback. And now that I'm thinking about it, I think I saw a whole game of his. Um, but yeah, man, he he kind of like Regis, man. He'll chase you all the way to Polakka if he had to. Again, the pros or excuse me, the cons were the lack of experience. As I said, only 18 FBS games to his name. His arms are on the short end a little bit as well. Um, but again, like, you know, I don't want to sound like Trent Balkey or anything. Like, that's not anything that you know that we have proof really hinders a player reaching their potential, right? For the most part. I mean, sometimes it does, but for the most part, the guys who are destined to be who they're gonna be, even the ones with short arms, figure it out, right? So like that's something that like I think like Balkey put a little too much into. Um, but you know, we don't want to talk about that guy too much. But yeah, man, Durfee is a guy, man, who, you know, if if the trend of injuries continue with his career, and look, you only spent the seven-round pick on him, you put him on practice squad, whatever the case may be, and just kind of let him develop, right? Again, a low risk, high reward type of signing when you're talking about a seventh-round pick here. And uh yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they can draw that potential out of him. Because if this kid played in more games, it's clear that he would have been more so along the lines of a fourth or third-round pick, but it's just the lack of games that he's played and the availability as well that have hurt him. But um, you can see where this guy, if if he were to take the field, let's say just one more season, man, where he could have developed into a guy that, you know, people were talking about a sneaky pick for that third round range. But um again, you know, things happen, and um nonetheless, he still ended up getting drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars, so it still worked out. Lastly, we have Patrick or excuse me, Parker Hughes from uh Middle Tennessee um linebacker who we took in the seventh round with pick two number uh pick number two 40, uh 6'2, about 225 pounds, because on the Jaguar site, I think that's a typo have him at 205. I definitely think that's a typo. But I think when I looked at him on Middle Tennessee site, and sometimes you can't go by those college sites, but they had him at about 225, or maybe the NFL.com on his combine page or his player profile page had him at 225. But um, yeah, he registered 252 career tackles, 123 of which were solo, 3.5 sacks, and 15.5 uh tackles for loss throughout his career at Middle Tennessee. I think he went there for his whole career basically, so he wasn't a guy that transferred from a lot of places. In 2025, he had 100 tackles, 50 of which were solos. Uh, so he was pretty active in that regard. Um, I saw a guy who was kind of you know slippery and sneaky in terms of um shooting gaps, despite being, you know, what looked to me to be under 230. Um, but he was definitely good and quick with getting between gaps and getting in there before these linemen can, these big linemen can get their mitts on him. So that was one thing that stood out. Um, but aside from that, I had to watch some more film on him because of course, like it's not like there's probably abundance of Middle Tennessee film out there that you can find. Um, but I'm pretty sure on YouTube there is some full games out there because a lot of these kids play on ESPN 2 as well and the smaller ESPNs like that go to these types of colleges. So I probably can find some um some tape of them, and when I do, I'll be sure to share my notes and thoughts and probably put out a scouting report as well. So all of that said, we'll go ahead, man, and uh we'll wrap this up. I will touch on the undrafted free agents later. Probably in the next episode, we'll swing back around to them. But for time purposes, I will just stick to the guys we drafted. Um, and of course, we'll have Phil back on the next episode. As I mentioned, you can follow me at sportsgrind underscore done on Twitter and Phil at PhilTheFilipino. Again, that's my co-host Phil Barrera. You can follow the Touchdown Jaguars podcast handle at TD Jags Pod, or excuse me, TD Jaguars Pod. And you can also find our website at touchdownjagwars.com. Feel free to use our promotion code with our sponsor, SeatGeek, of course, as Touchdown Jaguars, and save yourself$20 on your first order. As we all know, SeatGeek is your go-to place for your ticketing needs, whether that's concerts, events, um, sporting events, you name it, they got you covered. So, all of that said, man, we'll go ahead and sign off on this one again. I'm James Johnson, and until next time, you all take care of each other.