{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":4.56,"endTime":6.66,"body":"Welcome to Dula Tips and Tits,"},{"startTime":6.86,"endTime":9.9,"body":"the podcast where we cut through the noise and get real"},{"startTime":9.9,"endTime":12.72,"body":"about what it takes to build a sustainable doula business."},{"startTime":13.22,"endTime":14.42,"body":"I'm Kaylee Harrod."},{"startTime":14.82,"endTime":19.24,"body":"I've been a doula informally for 14 years and full time for"},{"startTime":19.24,"endTime":19.68,"body":"seven."},{"startTime":20.2,"endTime":21.96,"body":"Around here, we don't sugarcoat stuff."},{"startTime":22.38,"endTime":24.48,"body":"We talk autonomy, owning your worth,"},{"startTime":24.66,"endTime":26.36,"body":"creating a business that works for you."},{"startTime":26.96,"endTime":28.56,"body":"No fluff, no burnout,"},{"startTime":28.66,"endTime":32.22,"body":"just the honest truth on how to be your own best boss."},{"startTime":32.94,"endTime":34.38,"body":"Let's get into today's episode."},{"startTime":36.44,"endTime":39.54,"body":"Hello and welcome back to Dula Tips and Tits."},{"startTime":40.26,"endTime":44.1,"body":"This episode is a little late in being released because I"},{"startTime":44.1,"endTime":47.26,"body":"once again had two babies come on the same day."},{"startTime":47.78,"endTime":49.44,"body":"I was able to be at both births,"},{"startTime":49.68,"endTime":51.58,"body":"so it was a little bit of a different circumstance."},{"startTime":51.58,"endTime":55.34,"body":"But that happened on April Fool's Day,"},{"startTime":55.34,"endTime":59.5,"body":"which means the day before I normally put out my podcast."},{"startTime":59.92,"endTime":62.9,"body":"And it just delayed everything for the whole week."},{"startTime":63.22,"endTime":64.04,"body":"So here we are."},{"startTime":64.62,"endTime":67.72,"body":"So you're getting a bonus weekend podcast episode and then"},{"startTime":67.72,"endTime":70.54,"body":"you will get your normal 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up,"},{"startTime":665.56,"endTime":666.54,"body":"just ask a question."},{"startTime":666.74,"endTime":668.08,"body":"I don't know why that is what I said."},{"startTime":669.2,"endTime":672.18,"body":"And then I will link the episodes that I've done in the"},{"startTime":672.18,"endTime":676.68,"body":"past to pre and post birth recovery so that you have those"},{"startTime":676.68,"endTime":677.64,"body":"to listen to as well."},{"startTime":678.14,"endTime":678.18,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":678.58,"endTime":680.02,"body":"I will see you in the next episode."},{"startTime":684.14,"endTime":687.2,"body":"Thanks for joining us for this episode of the doula tips"},{"startTime":687.2,"endTime":688.1,"body":"and tits podcast."},{"startTime":688.64,"endTime":691.16,"body":"If you learned something today or had an aha moment,"},{"startTime":691.24,"endTime":694.32,"body":"we'd love for you to share that on Instagram and tag us at"},{"startTime":694.32,"endTime":695.1,"body":"hara 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