In this episode, AHS Education Committee member Candice Klingbeil talks with stallion owners and riders of newly licensed Hanoverian stallions from the NASST East by phone. Due to Covid restrictions, Hilltop Farm was unable to accommodate additional visitors, so these conversations were conducted by phone. The episode begins with a conversation with Theresa Schnell and Dr. Robert Jackson DVM about their stallion, Epic Eastwood (Escolar X De Niro). And is followed by a conversation with Natalie DiBerardinis about Hilltop Farm's stallion Louisville HTF (Lord Leatherdale X Negro). Next, Candice speaks to Madeline Mullholland about her family's stallion, Copernicus WF (Clinton X Federalist). A conversation with Copernicus' rider, Kristen Hillier follows with her comments on Copernicus' character and rideability. And finally, Candice speaks to Fortunato H2O's (Floriscount X Rascalino) owner and rider, Lehua Custer.
This podcast series is sponsored by The American Hanoverian Society. For more information on this podcast, message us on our Facebook page, The American Hanoverian Society Official Page or send us an email at ahsoffice@hanoverian.org. Thanks for listening!
In this episode, AHS Education Committee member Candice Klingbeil talks with stallion owners and riders of newly licensed Hanoverian stallions from the NASST East by phone. Due to Covid restrictions, Hilltop Farm was unable to accommodate additional visitors, so these conversations were conducted by phone. The episode begins with a conversation with Theresa Schnell and Dr. Robert Jackson DVM about their stallion, Epic Eastwood (Escolar X De Niro). And is followed by a conversation with Natalie DiBerardinis about Hilltop Farm's stallion Louisville HTF (Lord Leatherdale X Negro). Next, Candice speaks to Madeline Mullholland about her family's stallion, Copernicus WF (Clinton X Federalist). A conversation with Copernicus' rider, Kristen Hillier follows with her comments on Copernicus' character and rideability. And finally, Candice speaks to Fortunato H2O's (Floriscount X Rascalino) owner and rider, Lehua Custer.
This podcast series is sponsored by The American Hanoverian Society. For more information on this podcast, message us on our Facebook page, The American Hanoverian Society Official Page or send us an email at ahsoffice@hanoverian.org. Thanks for listening!
Hello, and welcome to another episode of the American Harian society podcast. My name is Candace cling vile. In this episode, I will speak to stallion owners and riders from the north American stallion sport test east held at Hilltop farm due to COVID restrictions. We were not able to attend in person. So these conversations were conducted over the phone. This episode includes the stallion's epic Eastwood Louisville HTF Copernicus w F and Fornado H two O I hope you enjoy these conversations. Our first stallion owners are Dr. Robert Jackson and there Chanel who own epic Eastwood. It's so great to be able to talk to both of you. Can you, you tell us about your stallion? Sure.
Speaker 2:Epic Eastwood. We actually were looking for stallion for a Dutch breeder here in north America and helping her. She had found another stallion initially, but didn't pass the radiographs and then Eastwood came along and wanna go through the licensing and approval. So she passed and she wound up going to another Dutch horse. So we asked her, did she mind and asked if she would be upset if she passed on, could we still have him? And she said, sure. So Sebastian roto was with the Oldenburg bond at the time he was the one facilitating the sale. So that's how we acquired him. And he's still at this point, the only escal son standing in north America, we
Speaker 3:Took a little bit of a chance on him in that we, uh, really had only seen the video. We did not have the opportunity to go meet him in person and, uh, jar, but him coming over was really a nice match for, I think, for and for us
Speaker 2:Then we, um, we got him over here and in the meantime, I've done some clinics with Mika and MUN, a Danish rider, and she's down in Wellington and we're friends and she had seen some video of them and she asked, basically, did you mind, can I have the ride on him? And that's how he wound up under Mela. So really talented three really good gates and his temperament and rideability are
Speaker 3:Tops. His temperament is really so good that coming out of quarantine, you know, again, I had never really met the horse and we bonded almost immediately. I live, uh, on a farm by myself and he's kind of my best friend.
Speaker 2:Oh, we started the breeding season with him last year and we've got, um, over 20 breeding start with him. It was a short period of time before he went down to start his training. He stems from pretty good line. It's actually a Arian line LA MAA. His dam is, uh, Deir, Sandra hit, and then it goes Rubenstein Stein. So it goes into some old lines and her name is Grossa. Diva is how you pronounce it. And people see it and they think gross, but Grossa actually needs bigger, large she's produced Eastwood. And he has a full younger brother that helped strand bought. And this past year blue horse to just bought this year's full that's by dynamic dreams. So producing pretty well. We were pretty excited over that when we found out, after we bought him about especially health strand had already acquired his two year younger brother, his real
Speaker 3:Selling point was his walk of all things. He just had such a wonder free through the back walk that we saw and really that just kind of sealed the deal. So to speak probably one of the most important gates, but not always the one that everybody wants to see.
Speaker 2:And he is got a really super can as well. That comes definitely from ESOR ESOR has a huge can
Speaker 3:And his trot ain't bad.
Speaker 2:<laugh> and how tall is he?
Speaker 3:16 three is what he measured here at testing. Can you
Speaker 2:Talk about his fulls? We have had total variety of mayors from every registry, even gels. So, you know, we weren't sure what we were gonna expect and hearing lines up really pretty much almost a stamper didn't matter. The mayor, some maybe a tiny bit heavier, like out of the Gelder they were all leggy, all modern and all above average to really, really good movers, pretty heads and neck. And you almost can pick them out people when I kept posting and people were like, oh my God, you can pick out an Eastwood. You can pick out an Eastwood. So I can't even really tell you what ma he crosses backs with because they're so similar in type. It really didn't matter. We even had three of our own from three very different mares and they all look like brother and sisters, all
Speaker 3:Similar. And the two Phillies that we got one was from, uh,<inaudible> mayor while the other one was from a, um, Luca, Luca mayor. They are twin sisters from different mothers. They
Speaker 2:Literally, you can't almost tell them apart
Speaker 3:So much alike that, you know, sometimes I have to wait to see who goes to which mother,
Speaker 2:The one I saw, um, the, the breeder, uh, told me that it was the friendliest full that that particular mayor had ever had. She said it was really, really friendly. I've gotten that quite a bit. They might not be first couple weeks, but almost every one of them are just like
Speaker 3:Love bugs. They really are. I had one that I had to medicate for a little while. And just like, you might do a, a, a little kid, you tell'em, you know, now here's your numb numbs. And she would take this medications. And when you come up to the stall with a syringe de warmer or whatever, she comes right up.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for taking the time today to talk to me. I know you're really busy today is the actual test, right? Yep. Yes, yes. We, the four<laugh>
Speaker 1:Our next stallion representative is Natalie deeper D from Hilltop farm. And she's gonna tell us about Louisville HTF
Speaker 2:Hi, Candace. Thank you guys for doing this. This is fun. It was a little bit of a disappointing year for people not being able to come to, to the east coast in person, but we were really full on people. So, so we made the best choices we could to still have the event run smoothly. Thank so much for taking the time, Natalie and I, and I wanna say that, um, from the stallion owners that I've spoken to, they've all said, people kept mentioning that they really had a good experience. That's great. Thank you. The whole stallion testing process is a really stressful one, even when it goes well for stallion owners. So glad to hear the feedbacks positive. Well, it would be great to hear about the stallion from Hilltop that was even bred at Hilltop. He was, yes. So Louisville is a four year old Harian stallion. He is a home bread of ours. He is out of a wonderful mayor named Unica D with her registered name, but her show name was used. She's a daughter of Negro and had been shown by Nick Wagman for many years. She actually did the USCF festival I one championship and then was showing grown PR by age eight. And we'd been in touch with Nick and we were representing Negro in our international style lineup. When she unfortunately had an in and was being retired from sport, we quickly thanked her up for the Hilltop brew marrow herd. So very fortunate to have a, a number of euphoria FOLs and Louisville of course right now is one of the highlights, but she's got some others coming along behind him, too, that we're excited about Louisville SI is Lord leather Dale. And that Lord Ladale Negro is just such a really strong, proven Nick ever day. Ladale Chippendale fairytale. Like there's been so many approved stallions in Holland from that combination really compliments very well and very consistently. And those traits that we expect from there really came through in Louis too. And Louis first bull crop has been very successful. Yeah, so we licensed him last year as a three year old and first bull hit the ground this spring with any of the young stallions, we try and do sort of a cross section of MAs some different blood lines, different types. Once we feel we'll compliment the young stallion as well, but we really want that first full crop to give us a sense of what the stallion's going to really add to the equation and which lines we're gonna see him cross most successfully with actually been very consistent across all the mayors. He he's had three top full awards this year with Hanna bear inspections, gold medal, full couple premium folds with other registries, U S DF Southern series, enhanced competitions, the breeder series finals Louisville full at won for the Texas region. So, and all those have been out of all different bloodlines, different mayors Louis, and really thrilled with the consistency he stands with so far. And he did very, very well, um, in his test. Can you tell us about his testing? Yeah, so he's had, he's actually had a really good show year. This was the first year we showed him under saddle training level and the USF four year old and was very consistent all season. But then we chose not to go to regionals knowing that the stallion test was coming up and not wanting to throw out too much at a four year old, but in the testing, he was really super solid all three days. You know, I think the rideability came very, very clearly through. We couldn't have asked anymore from him. We were super happy with how he presented and Michael did a beautiful job. And what are your plans for him next year? Are you expecting a lot of bowls? Yep. So we've got a, another good group of folds coming. We unfortunately don't have one coming for the farm. I'm kinda disappointed about that, but we're excited about<laugh> about the outside folds we have coming. And then, uh, he'll go to Florida with, of this winter and mostly for training, you know, I think during the winter, we don't need to push the young horses and show them super early, but you know, then we'll kind of plan his show season out as we get a little further along in spring, it's always that balance for the young stallion. Well, even for the older stallions on how do we blend the competition season with their breeding season and trying to not hit them too much with both at their peak at once. So we tend to show the stallions a little earlier in the season and then a little later in the summer, so that those peak months of April through June, where they're in most man for breeding, that we're not having to then be pulling for competition. So, and then of course he'll aim for doing the stallion test again for his second year too. It's been so nice talking to you, Natalie. Thank you so much for all of that information. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Our next stallion representative is Madeline Moholland from windswept farm in Canada. Madeline's mother Nancy Moholland owns Copernicus WF. Could you tell us about your family and their farm?
Speaker 4:My father started reading Canarians back in 1988. His first experience with a Harian was a he variant called AR that was gifted to him from a friend. And he was so impressed with this horse that when he finally retired, he decided to breed them. That's how he got interested in the Harian breed in 1988. He started windswept farm breeding program in Georgetown and father's philosophy was always that he wanted to create horses that were ideal for amateur riders. So what he was really trying to produce were horses with good confirmation, good minds, rideability, and overall athleticism. So that basically he's producing horses that were easy to train good athleticism and could basically, you know, Excel in any discipline that they were asked to train in or compete in. So he was more trying to produce the overall athletic course that was user friendly. He wasn't trying to create Olympic superstars or anything. And,
Speaker 2:Um, and he BR um, flower song who is caper is, and he also BR flower songs, um, fire
Speaker 4:Federalist, Federalist.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Could you think about those horses?
Speaker 4:Federalist was fired by for pleasure. He was a hunter jumper stallion. He was slightly bulkier, like older style than NICUs is, but Copernicus does bear resemblance him. And of course he's only five, so he will bulk up a bit. So there is a lot of resemblance between the two of them, as well as an ability flower song was an elite mayor and she was in the American Harian society's jumper breeding program, very talented mayor and also an excellent brew mayor. She's produced many great African. A lot of them have their own style. So she hasn't produced carbon copy folds that resemble one another. They all have great jumping ability. Some of them even dressage ability, but they've all been exceptional. Like she does produce exceptional fools that are very athletic to Perus was actually her last fool with us and was very leggy when he was little good confirmation, very lucky and very coordinated. He was about four months old and we had him in the indoor arena and I was just really impressed with how beautiful his movements were and how well balanced he was and coordinated for such a young soul. And I decided to kind of, you know, put off gelding him and keep an eye on him because he seemed to really have also that wow factor. Like he was really stylish and he was really a lovely, full, like he was very friendly with people and he was very gentle and sweet and very trusting. So he really had a really good temperament and really good confirmation and movement and everything. So we thought, you know what, we weren't really looking to license a news stallion were kind of winding down at this point, cuz my mother's elderly now, but you know, I thought it would be a waste. He really was exceptional not to license him if he really had the goods. Right. So we kept an eye on him for a while and over time, you know, he proved us right. And eventually, you know, we had him broke at three and he's always been with his trainer, Kristen Hiller, who's done a fabulous job with him. She's got a really positive, calming demeanor, and she's very intuitive with the horses and she's done a really great job with our horses and she's training three of flower songs offering right now, all of whom were doing very well. And he finally took a Perfectus down for his north marriage and stallion sport test. And he did very well and he was well behaved. So he, you know, he represented us well down there. So, so that was
Speaker 2:His first test.
Speaker 4:Yes. Well unfortunately for a lot of the stallions that are younger, that are going down for the testing right now, 22, we didn't really have a show season. So a lot of them lost out on some of their opportunity to develop themselves and their, you know, practice, their jumping and to pre was one of those as were many at the testing this year. So he's maybe a little bit behind because he is only really had this year to be at horse shows and everything. But despite that he did very well and he was very calm when he was down there and you know, well, behaved didn't seem to upset him at all. He was very, it was very easy for him to do all of everything that was asked of him. So that's another thing that you worry about with stallions. You don't know how they're gonna behave when they're in estranged places, a lot of other stallions. So that was kind of the act test for him. And he passed it like goodness and Kristen did a fabulous job with him. So she was really happy with his performance. You
Speaker 2:Had mentioned that from a very young age, he had, um, amazing jumping ability.<laugh>,
Speaker 4:That's, that's another event that kind of made us think that maybe he might be a good jumper. Stallion was who was about six. My, and he was in the stallion paddock and there was like, no on the ground. And he was out there with another full and he had been weaned recently and stuff. He decided that he wanted out. So from a dead stand still, he literally jumped out of the stallion paddock just like that. And he never jumped anything in his life. And at six months old and from a dead standing, he just right over the fence and brought it into the bar and like, oh, where's my mom. We're seeing what he can do now. And he's doing very well and he's coming along nicely and um, yeah, he's maturing now. He's still a youngster. He knows what he needs to do. And he does it well. So we have high hopes for him. Yeah,
Speaker 2:Yeah. Now he does not have any bowls on the ground, but what are your plans for, or, um, the next breeding
Speaker 4:Season, I would like to maybe have a brief window in the spring where we offer him for breeding, but to maybe a few select MAs, but we really do wanna concentrate this year because he did lose the 20, 20 season. We really wanna concentrate on, um, him being in work and, and developing his jumping, uh, his jumping skills, cuz he will be going for another test next year. We really wanna focus on that, but we will offer him in a brief window perhaps in the spring. Well
Speaker 2:Madeline, thank you so much for speaking to us and congratulations on your, on your fantastic score. Um, we really appreciate, well, I didn't do it, but thank you.<laugh>
Speaker 1:The next we hear from Copernicus's rider, Kristin Hillier, Kristin also rides other horses by Copernicus's flower song.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Three flower song horses that I ride currently. ERUs quintessential and Sean tell. Oh cool. Oh, I'd love to hear how they go. Quintessential is just, I've had for about four years now, started her up in the showroom a few years ago and she's now she's making her way up into the national grand PR. We started into the national ground, this past show season. Very scopey very, very, just an incredible merit to ride with a ton of jump in. Just absolutely loves her job. I think this mirrors a top prospect for the Grum pre rink. Yeah. Chantelle also has the jump capability, the flower song line throws very, very nice ma amateur friendly just in credible mirror. I can put any of my girls on, you know, and take someone from jumping across her, up to jumping a meter 20. And it's also about a third level dressage horse. So she's also, uh, they've gotten lovely solid of that mirror this season as well. And those two are by which fire. So, uh, quintessential is by outta fly song and Chantel is by con out of flower song. And then carne is by Planton outta flower song. Yeah. How is he to ride lovely. I've had him in my program since he was about two and a half when they decided that they wanted to try to keep him as stallion. You know, we put him into a program very early so that he always kept his manners and he knew he knew how to behave as a stallion. So he's been with me since then broke him right from, you know, I've been on him right from the very start and he's just been so lovely to deal with. Always had the most incredible, Canor such a balanced young horse and so willing, like the work ethic on this horse is just incredible, which can sometimes be lacking in stallion. You know, they're sometimes very cold and he's just always so, so happy to be out and working. And what do you think he, um, he gets from his SI and um, his dam. What, what quality, uh, he's refined flower. So intense seems to throw a nice refined, modern type and they always have an incredible behind end over the fences. That real sort of final kick, all three of those horses have that similar style over the fence as far as what he gets from Clinton. IM certainly I think the size, the more compact confirmation, although he is quite leggy, he has the rideability, I think through that flower song line, cuz from what I understand, sometimes the Clinton can be a little bit difficult in the mouth and he is not at all. He is one of the softest horses to ride. I think overall it's quite a good pairing. Very nice. Well thank you so much for adding those, um, comments on rideability that that's awesome to hear from the rider. Thank you, Kristin. Yeah, you're very, very welcome. Thank you for calling
Speaker 1:Our next stallion owner is Lehua Custer who owns and rides fortune auto H two. Oh, could you please tell about your stallion?
Speaker 4:Thank you so much for having me for tune auto H two. I call him tuna at the barn. He is a five year old 17 hand Chestnut stallion by Floris scout out of Les, who is by rascal. He just heated at the north American sports stallion testing and I'm really excited about it went great now back home in Wellington, Florida. And we're gonna start our 2022 season with the F E six year olds. And going back to the testing next year. Yes.
Speaker 2:So this is your first test and um, congratulations on your, on your super scores and also on your grand champion at Devon at
Speaker 4:Devon. Thank you.<laugh> thank you. Yeah, that was a very special experience. Thank you so much. Yeah, we decided it the last moment to do that and then kind of put that together with the stallion testing as one big trip for two. So he wouldn't have to travel all the way from Florida in the heat and then immediately directly go to the testing. So I opted to go up to dressage at Devon as a bit of a warmup for him and a way for him to settle up in the general area for a bit before the testing. So he'd be fresh and acclimated to the weather and kind of ready to go. So it was a bit of a very happy surprise that we ended up doing so well. He won every class that we entered some high point and high scores. He won under saddle as well. So we had fantastic results in the material. And then we qualified for the regional finals and won those as well with the high score of the day, a across all courses and was able to do that in hand as well. So it was a bit of a clean sweep, which was amazing unexpected and fantastic. So very thankful for that and also is brought in America by wonderful breeder, Kendra, Hans, and she won the bread and the USA award as well as the highest boring bread in the USA. And of course the highest scoring stallion bread in the USA. So it was a, it was a big show for her and I both. And I'm so happy that she could have the kind of do reward for all of her hard work, because I feel like the breeders tend to work quietly at home on their own. And there's a lot of ups and downs and<affirmative> so nice to see such a big up, it was special to share it with her.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It sounds like a dream come true. It's so nice to see the breeders recognized for sure. Um, could you tell us a bit more about tuna and what qualities do you think come from? Um, Floris count and which come from the dam
Speaker 4:Side? Absolutely. I've had tuna since he was essentially, since he was born, I bought him officially at 30 days old. I had been tracking the pregnancy of ESCA his day am. I had been tracking it via social media. I didn't know Kendra at the time I just happened to follow her Facebook page, her professional Facebook page. And I always am kind of watching bloodlines. I had been mentored by a fantastic breeder in California, Hilda gurney, and she taught me to pay attention to lines of horses instead of just the horse itself alone, because it's always helpful to know history. And so I had been shopping for a horse for about two years. My horse that I had had that Hilda had bread was showing Grande and had kind of topped out with what I was gonna do with him. So I was moving him along to his next owner and looking for my next project. I always buy the, I liked floor scout as stallion. I liked what he could produce. I had been paying attention to his offspring. I liked that he had trained up to E and I liked his size. I'm tall and five 11 and I wanted something similar. I loved his character and he seemed to look quite rideable. And so when I was looking for a full, I thought he might be a horse that would fill up the ring for the big ring, so to speak. And I really was hoping to find a mayor that was carrying a floor scout full that had a really nice, quick kind leg, because that seemed to be the thing that was not his absolute strongest suit. It wasn't as quick for, uh, grand PR as it maybe could be all the other fabulous things aside. And so the dam ESKA has an incredibly quick hi leg, very hot horse. I was excited to see when that full was gonna come out, how he would look and just kind of casually looking at him. You know, I didn't know he was gonna be a cold at that point, but casually looking, watching the pregnancy Fortuna as well as a few other MAs and I'd been shopping, you know, going to farms in California and looking in person at Folz and not quite finding the right thing for what I was looking for. I specifically did want stallion prospect when he was born, Kendra had posted a photo of him and he hadn't stood up. He was still down in the, in the straw with one leg forward and this beautiful, bright blaze. And I literally jumped off the couch and screamed to my roommate. This is my horse. And I'm not really like that. Normally I'm a bit careful. I don't just buy horses on a whim. I'm very cautious. And so it even surprised me that I was that set on it and immediately contacted Kendra and asked if he was available. And so our dialogue began and she said, yes. And I then had to figure out how to get him. And so I was, I'm a horse trainer. I was just casually talking to all of my clients at the barn about this full, this full, this full. And finally one of'em walked up and said, I wanna help you a little bit. And, and so she gave me a short loan and I paid her back of course immediately and was able to get the funds together quick enough to, to purchased him before someone else did. And so I fortunately have had him his whole life and had know his character from day one. Basically my favorite thing about him is his ease of handling. He's sweet. He wants to be around people gentle. He can be handled by most anyone. I can stable him very close to mayors, of course not directly next to them. That would be too challenging for them in the mayors as well, but he can be ridden at all times with any kind of horses in the arena and cross side with mayors. And he's just very easy that way. And he's quite easy to ride. He's, doesn't look to buck bolt, you know, rear any of that. And he's been that way basically since he was saddle broke, he's just an easy horse to have around. I have a busy barn with, you know, lots of clients and lots of horses also being ridden at the same time. And he just has to fit in and I don't have to make concessions for him. He is not an stallion stall and he's not in a special stallion turnout to me that makes it no brainer that it was easy to keep him as stallion. It's just a pleasure. There's no stress. He's not climbing the stall walls. He's not stressing himself out. It's not hard for him to live the life he's in and very normal. So it makes me happy that I can keep him stallion with all of that. And when I started collecting him, he didn't change it all completely the same. So it was very easy transition into making him a breeding stallion, and it's been a pleasure. So that's his, to me, one of his biggest strengths. He's also got a really fantastic walk that has scored up to a 10 at Devon. And just this last week at stallion testing received a nine. The thing that's so wonderful about it is that it stretches out long and it's collectible. I know that I will be okay when I have to collect him for the FBI and I have started half steps and it doesn't create tension in the walk. It doesn't create a problem. So that's very comforting for me because ultimately mostly he'll be my performance horse. I like seeing that. And his Canor is very easy to ride, very balance, very collectible, and he's just very comfortable in it. So that's another big highlight and his trot is developing in a way where I think it's gonna be quite easy to find in it. He's only five and large, so I don't push it hugely. I want him to stay mentally happy and stay sound so as a TRO, it's going to develop, but it did receive an eight at stallion testing and it received very high scores at Devon. So I'm quite pleased with the fact that I feel it's still developing and it's already getting those scores. So I'm very comfortable to feel that it'll become the trot I need for E he's very rectangular, you know, he three equal parts. So a good picture. I think he would suit mayors similar to him or mayors have a little bit shorter, tighter backs. And I think he would even them out quite nicely because he's tall and long-legged, I don't know about breeding him to an extremely small expecting to get right in between, as we know, it's a bit unpredictable. So I do caution their owners to be aware that we don't know what we'll get with that. And to be a bit prepared that you might get one extreme or the other closer to the dam, closer to the SI size and know telling what could happen with that. So it's always a gamble with breeding and you never know so far, he has a few lovely folds on the ground. He's Chestnut and there's of course, a little funny stigma, which I love Chestnut. So it doesn't hurt me. She's only had one, I believe one Chestnut full so far. So his dam is black. So he produces black and bay as well. And so far they've looked quite good proportions, nice straight legs, nice movement. He's passing on the walk and we're quite happy with the character. He has a very puppy dog personality, and I think that's showing through the bowl. So I'm very excited for the following years as he develops. And we see what he's producing, we'll get a really good idea of what will be the very that's combination for him. So time will tell on that end, what
Speaker 2:Are your plans for next year? You're gonna, you're gonna finish your sport testing.
Speaker 4:So he'll have a bit of easy time. You know, I don't rush my horses. I do get them trained up efficiently. They, you know, I always buy folds or young horses and I take the time to train them Toro Prairie on their schedule. So he will have, and he is big. So I will give him a little time off before the new year we'll work lightly and do some, he loves to hack. So we'll do a bit of that. And then he's already trained to do flying changes and half passes and pretty much everything for the third level. We showed second level this year, average of mid seventies. So had a really nice season in that respect. And so we'll move on to showing third level next year, probably do the E six year old test down here in Wellington, depending on how he develops. We consider taking him to festival champions for FBI six year olds as an option. And of course ending our year with the second half of stallion. So that's a bit where we're at. He is really where he needs to be in my mind for training. So I just need to be patient and give him time to grow up a little bit more and enjoy him next season. Sounds
Speaker 2:Fantastic. Lehua thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us.
Speaker 1:Thanks for listening. If you'd like more and information, please message us through our Facebook page, the American Harian society official page, or send us an email@ahsofficehanna.org. And if too many stallions is never enough, stay tuned. We'll be covering more stallions from the tested Hilltop farm in our next episode.