Ep.85: Angela Boyd & Adam "Merrick" Jahan

Adam Jahan is a scare actor from Knotts Scary Farm since 2010 

Angela Boyd was a scare actor at former independent haunt "Empty Grave" and will soon to be married with Adam Jahan. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to the LS3. Uh sorry, you're gonna hear the fireworks in the background. Um I'm as I'm making this at 9 30 at night. So too bad. Uh anyway, um I do have former and new episodes on my link tree. It's gonna be on my Instagram. It's the my uh podcast Instagram. Sorry. It's gonna be uh ls3 underscore official. You can go ahead and click that link and it'll get you to all the new and former episodes are on there. Um like I said, we're trying to keep I'm trying to post as much as I can before we uh start rap uh getting this uh new season going of uh Scary Farm 2026. Uh we are right now uh I'm recording this on June 8th. So you're gonna you're uh we are still in the process of doing all these auditions and um I think we're almost done with all the rehires and the new hires come in, and so you know you know how that goes. Takes a process, takes time. So we're gonna uh but anyway, we're um I'm gonna try to get as much as I uh episodes I can in. So uh keep a lookout for that. Uh support the show. Uh I really appreciate it. Thank you. Today's guests is a couple that I've known for uh a little more than a decade. Uh I've uh they have been on this show before. Uh you know uh one of them uh has been in Ghost Town, or actually it's been in Haunt since uh 2010, 2011. Uh I'm not quite sure, but he's been he's been there quite quite a while, a little longer than I have. Uh but he has been on the show before as well. Uh me and him. Uh you guys know him as the infamous character at Ghost Town named Merrick. And uh coming this October, the October 29th, he's gonna be marrying his fiance that I am good friends with. Uh it's official. Uh we've talked about it. It's gonna be a really fun, exciting time. Uh there's uh also a thing that I'm there's also um announcement I made on the show that I'm really excited to be part of for the wedding. Uh stay tuned for that. Uh, we just talked about all the other things. It was always a great time uh catching up with them and bringing them on the show. He you know that goes. Um, but without further ado, my guest today is Angela Boyd and Adam Merrick John. There's no pressure around here, Adam. Just enjoy yourself. You're anxious, you're high out right here.

SPEAKER_06 3:35

I don't no, I don't do things really. You can have it.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

Can you bring the mic close to you so you can yeah. Okay. Can you talk in the mic, please?

SPEAKER_06 3:43

I'm talking in the mic.

SPEAKER_04 3:45

Can you not talk so soft?

SPEAKER_06 3:47

I'm talking in the mic.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

Okay. Which one are which one are you? Um, that's why. Go ahead, go ahead and do it one more time.

SPEAKER_06 4:02

I'm talking in the mic.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

You're talking in the mic.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

I'm just excited to not hear Aaron Frame's voice on this podcast again.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

You're not excited to be like fire.

SPEAKER_06 4:11

Aaron and Vi, you know, I've heard it all at this point. You know Vi and I have known each other almost 20 years.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

20 years?

SPEAKER_06 4:18

We met on um TPA.

SPEAKER_04 4:20

Oh, I thought you said tender.

SPEAKER_06 4:22

Uh never. How dare you disrespect his girlfriend like that? How dare you disrespect him?

SPEAKER_04 4:33

Um, I'm just scared. No, wait, you met you met at TPA 20 years ago?

SPEAKER_06 4:37

Vi, Ed, Lewis. Quite a few people I met on TPA back in like 2007.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

Yeah. Winger? Wait, 20?

SPEAKER_06 4:48

No, I worked with him. When we were in 2007.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

TPA was around that time, though.

SPEAKER_06 4:53

Yeah. Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

TPA been on. Winger.

SPEAKER_06 4:57

I call him Windsor. Everybody calls him Winger. We worked together.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

Oh, Windsor. Yeah, they didn't.

SPEAKER_06 5:02

We worked at TGI Fridays and then we worked at Lone Star together. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 5:06

You worked at TGI Fridays?

SPEAKER_06 5:08

With him, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:08

Oh shit. I used to work at TGI. Uh no, I worked at Applebee's. Applebee's. Yeah, I worked at Applebee's.

SPEAKER_06 5:14

Fridays was fun. We made a lot of money, but that's where we met.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

You were a bartender, right?

SPEAKER_06 5:19

Not at Fridays. I was a bartender at Lone Star.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Nice. Lone Star.

SPEAKER_06 5:23

At Fridays, we were both. Yeah, we had to country line dance every hour at the top of the hour.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

You had to country dance the whole time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:30

No, not the whole time. At the top of the hour, every hour they would play a certain song. It was called um The Watermelon Something, and we would have to do a line dance, and there was choreography and everything. Nice. I bet you if you played the music, we could still do it. We did it so many times.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

Well, there's a there's an Applebee song that you usually do every time too. It's like that. I think that's like the generic uh Applebee song. Or that like happy, happy birthday, happy birthday to you.

SPEAKER_06 5:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:58

There's a guy at my work that does that now.

SPEAKER_06 6:00

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

Yeah, he does that. He he um speaks like he does this like happy birthday song every time someone has a happy birthday pin. So it's it's kind of it's alright.

SPEAKER_06 6:11

I don't go to Applebee's. I think it's icky.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Oh well, I you know, I've been trying to go to Applebee's for a while. Um just because I want to see what the the two for 15 stuff is like, or that two for whatever deal yeah, is like so no, we're a chilies family. You guys go to the one by the Haunted Center?

SPEAKER_06 6:32

Yeah, yeah. Any chilies.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Yeah. She's a chili girl.

SPEAKER_06 6:36

We're a big Chili's fan.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

She loves the chill at Chili's.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

She loves the chill at Chili's. Wow. Yeah, I used to I I used to like all that stuff because like my well, my dad, I don't know if my dad, my dad would take me if he had if he got paid really well. And then he would take me to one of those the like restaurants. Like that then, but also that during the time when you know we lived because I lived in a very uh Christian home. We would go to Sizzlers.

SPEAKER_06 7:07

Oh shit. I used to go.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

I used to go Sizzler when I was a man. I love Sizzlers. Yeah, Sizzlers was they had very good clam chatter, by the way. Oh god, like super good clam chatter.

SPEAKER_05 7:18

You're welcome. God damn it, dude.

SPEAKER_04 7:22

I heard I heard you. Is the mic too loud? No, you're fine. Okay. I'm just adjusting all the gains and all that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just don't breathe on the mic, Adam.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Do I need more bass in the voice? Bass. No, you're fine. Okay, good. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

I like how you're sitting, you're you're adjusting your posture is really good.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Thank you. My posture improved. Thank you. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Yeah. Yeah. Was it approving ever since you're with her? Yes. Oh god, Jesus Christ. No, because look at mine. Mine is terrible. Let me pop this shit for it. This up. Alright. It's my 0% beer. Here, choose it. Yeah, how about you open yours, Ang? Yeah, open your drink.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

Are you do you want one of these or not?

SPEAKER_04 7:59

No, have your other no, I'm I'm gonna wait till later.

SPEAKER_06 8:02

Till how much later?

SPEAKER_04 8:04

Because I have to I I have to control the pod. I have to control all you guys.

SPEAKER_06 8:09

You don't have to get super 10.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

Well, just not right now, because I'm a little too frail. It's been a long week. It's been a long week for me. Long week. Long week for me where I just I uh I'm a little frail. I'm a little frail from all everything. Because I just like from work and um sleep.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Yeah, I I've been recovering too after the week of fucking EDC. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Yeah, it's been crazy. Alright, so um you guys, the last time you guys came on here, um can you not breathe on the mic, Adam? Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Am I breathing on the mic? No, you're fine. You're bad. Just don't breathe, don't breathe too much. Sorry, I won't breathe anymore. Sorry. I just won't breathe.

SPEAKER_04 8:55

Just don't breathe on the mic.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

I'll hold my breath.

unknown 8:58

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Um, so last time you guys came on here, you guys were it was 2022. It was like on episode nine March. It was in the March March of episodes 2022. You folks, you guys weren't together. You guys were officially together. Um during the time. And now I found out probably that year, right? I had to find out that year.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

No, you found out when we announced it on Facebook. No, I found out you were living in the world.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

Well, I'll I'll say a personal story. Okay. I'll say a personal story because um I was going through like a really tragic time where it was like tragic, it was like tragic with mentally um in a in a very mental state where it was down, it was going to a complete downfall. But I I you guys came over, you guys really pretty much saved me from all that. And then we were talking and talking, and then all of a sudden someone you one of you guys brought up like well, it was because it was in the effect of well, because we're we're together now, and I have to completely stop from everything. All my troubles. So what was going on with me? Put that aside and go, What?

SPEAKER_06 10:24

Yeah, so would you go? Oh yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:26

I'm like, whoa, like you guys are already like together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

And yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

So you guys um you guys were you guys are officially yeah, you guys are officially together. Yes. And now as of this year, in October, you guys are gonna get married. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

We're about October October 29th.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

29th uh day.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

And um I was funny enough, October 29th is the date we actually got engaged as well. So that's the same date.

SPEAKER_06 10:59

So we picked the same.

SPEAKER_03 11:01

We got engaged on October 29th in 2023, and now this year, 26th, we're getting married.

SPEAKER_06 11:08

So it's coming quick.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

It's coming quick.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Did you guys knew that it was gonna happen that quick though?

SPEAKER_06 11:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Yeah, yeah. We had a feeling, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

We had we had been unofficially dating for quite some time, and really not okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:24

So, how take take this, take, take this back. Okay, that people give context. Um to give you guys to give people context that don't know what the real uh two of you are. Um well, if you guys been around the knots for a while with Adam, especially, but you you came along throughout the way in years later, but you guys met, became friends for a long time, and this was like a 10-year long duration of like you being friends, yes, ghosting friendship and divorce, and then just like never ghosted, just like more like it was it was something along the fact like that.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 12:07

Well, we actually went on a date in 2014 when we met in 2014. We had talked for quite some time. We went on a date in 2014, and I it was the greatest date ever.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

The greatest, the greatest date ever. From Adam's Yeah, he had a great awesome no, it was the greatest awkward date ever. Oh no, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 12:32

Adam was told by people that um, and I don't know what the motivation is. We can we can find out today we'll both be at the wedding, but Adam was told by people uh that I had three kids and I was a bad mom, so they were taken away from me. And he was told that the morning of our date. And so he before our date was doing recon on my Facebook, like trying to see if there were any photos of kids. Of course, there aren't because I don't have three children. Yes. Uh, but then on the date, decided to kind of try to find it.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Try to find out on the first date whether or not this girl had three kids and whether or not like why is the story like coming back to me now? I feel like I've heard we've I've heard about the I've heard I feel like I've heard about we've told you this story before. Yeah, uh, but uh yeah, so instead of just asking her on the first day, I just tried to beat around the bush and uh it was like it became stupid awkward.

SPEAKER_06 13:34

Yeah, questions like so do you do you want kids? Like, do you like kids? How do you feel about kids, right?

SPEAKER_03 13:39

All these questions like Where do you see yourself in five years or some shit like that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 13:44

Where do you see yourself and yeah, yeah, yeah. Um that was a little awkward. That was a little awkward.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

My game back then was horrible, by the way. Oh, I've seen it. I've seen it from absolutely fucking suck balls at talking to girls.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

So like I hadn't know I was. I would see him talk to girls, and I would I would look at the the girl look at me and going like, look, I don't know what to do for you.

SPEAKER_06 14:11

Well, he's gotten way better. Yeah, he's gotten way better. But I mean, it just wasn't our time, right? The the stars did not align that night, and but we stayed friends and we connected and we would hang out, and then I dated somebody else. You dated somebody else, and uh after that person and I broke up, we started hanging out a lot.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Yeah, so you did so that during that time you guys were just friends. We are friends.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Between 2014 and 2018, 19, we became like super good best friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

I see that. I I see I see that from like for sure from like what from like from you guys.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Like you guys were really good friends, but like there was feelings in um coming in the way, and then but like you guys kind of had to like keep your boundaries and well yeah, like uh and also I wasn't like like third night time, but you know, I was also you know not in the best state, options open, you know, yeah, and and I don't know, just not non the right place.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 15:20

Yeah, we just uh we were not ready for each other, I think, at that time. And then COVID happened and everything kind of stopped, except for me, it didn't, right? My day-to-day was like totally normal. I kept going to work, I kept doing things, and Adam started bringing me coffee to work. And from there, we really started hanging out every weekend. But what we didn't like, and I think we can say it now, is we did not ever appreciate the like if someone knew we were hanging out or saw that we were hanging out, or we ran into somebody while we were hanging out, the oh Angela knows. So we just took everything down to San Clemene. We hung out in San Diego every weekend, San Clemente every weekend. Nobody knew we were doing it, nobody had any idea. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 16:03

What a freaking, what a what a push, what what a change of narrative from like everybody. That's how that's how everything is now and like not just from like haunt, but it's like from everybody in life, in life. Like you see one thing, like two people hang out. And look, I've I've done I did my fair share in that. Like I've assumed people that were together, they hung they hung out. They were there was something going on between the two. But like I wasn't like you know, like, but you can't just like jump on the the gun so quick because like it could be just like a friendship thing, and it was for a long time.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

It really genuinely was a friendship thing.

SPEAKER_06 16:39

Yeah, but being on the receiving end of that like constant just ooh, they're together. Oh yeah, together. You get married someday, yeah. It gets old and we did not like it, so it just kind of like everything.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

You guys are fucking adults. I mean, you guys are just you guys understand a lot better than these little these uh children adult yeah, these uh children uh these adult bodies with children's minds. Yeah, yeah. And it's uh it's so un unveiling it's so unwell. And I I think I people when people do that, they just kind of uh they they like to change the narrative and twist it and and then and then once that narrative spreads out, then that narrat that un twit that twisted narrative just becomes much more or more bigger than it needs to be.

SPEAKER_06 17:26

So well, and the narrative is also like Adam's been in love with me since 2014 and has just been standing around waiting, right? And yeah, that's not even close to that. Adam dated other people, had life experiences.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Yeah, that's not even close to accurate. Were you in love with her in 2014? In 2014, yeah. I wanted to date her in 2014, but after she went and dated someone else, yeah, I kind of, you know, moved on a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 17:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

So then she came around again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:52

The narrative has never been, you know, Adam has been sitting around waiting, right? And actually, we're dating because of me. He had kind of already I moved on.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

I fully fully moved on.

SPEAKER_06 18:06

And there's this whole story that isn't even real.

SPEAKER_04 18:10

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, from wait, from yours? Your your story? Just a story, right?

SPEAKER_06 18:16

I think the general story is.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

I think everyone thinks that I was waiting for her for 10 plus years. No, that's not even close. Yeah. You weren't at all? No. No. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 18:26

No, like he did his own thing, I did my own thing, and when the timing was right, we got together, and we got together because I was the one who said, I think we need to be together. Adam did not initiate it at all, really.

SPEAKER_04 18:37

Yeah, he didn't push it. Yeah. He didn't push it.

SPEAKER_06 18:39

Nope.

unknown 18:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:40

So then we were, you know, we were really hanging out every weekend, talking on the phone every day.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

Yep. Um you said that to me, that blew my mind.

SPEAKER_04 18:50

What do you why why was that why was that time that that now happening? Like what made you think that now was the right time?

SPEAKER_03 19:02

I I just I that's a good question. I I just Angela question. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Well, I mean, I mean it's her question. No, we can answer for you, though. We can answer for you though.

SPEAKER_06 19:14

To be 100% honest, I mean when I what was that the chapman thing?

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yes, that was it. No, the chapman right now.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

That was it. There's been uh fireworks going on for this whole past weekend. Wow. Yeah, maybe that didn't just feel like that. No, that well, once there's a Kinciata that goes on and everything goes. I'm looking for what it was like. I just want I just really want the gas leak to happen.

SPEAKER_06 19:37

I'm a little scared, but no, to be to be totally honest, like we were hanging out. We were definitely heading that way. Nobody really knew we were really enjoying the privacy of all of it. But I was still like, I don't know if this is something, you know, I didn't want to ruin our friendship. We had a great friendship. I didn't, you know, when you get romantic feelings in there, there's always that risk that it doesn't work out, and then you lose everything, right? But then, you know, in the summer of 22, I lost my dad, and that changed everything for me. That changed my perspective on everything. Um, and I will never forget this, and I haven't told very many people this. I think Adam might be the only one, but um, the night I lost my dad, Adam was in the hotel room with me until we had a flight early in the morning, and we woke up, and my brother is someone who prior to losing my dad, my brother and I were not that close. And almost immediately afterward, we were very, very close. And we're on this flight to Iowa, which is where my dad lived, and uh for whatever reason, my sister got separated. She was in the front of the plane, my brother and I were in the very back, and we're over, you know, our dad passed at 1 a.m. Iowa time, so it was like 11 p.m. And then we woke up at four to go to the airport, and we're flying over, and my brother looks at me and he said, What's up with you and this Adam guy? Because Adam had met my family, my brother and my sister that night, and I said, He's just a friend. And he said, Well, you know, you are stupid if you let that go. And and I was kind of like, Well, uh we have bigger things kind of on the horizontal, like, let's not talk about that right now. But in reality, the conversations happened that morning, um, where my brother was like, It is very clear that this guy cares about you a lot. And obviously, I was not in a place to like process any of that or think about any of that. But once I came home and started to, the reality was that he was really the only person I wanted to talk to at that time. You know, he was the only one I like would physically reach for when I needed to talk to somebody where I had withdrawn from everybody else. Um, I kind of had this realization, and it was really on that business trip. Um, my dad passed away in August. Um, when Adam went to go work Hunt, I was surprised because I was like crying. I didn't want you to work hunt. I was like, we're not gonna hang out anymore, we're not gonna see each other. I went on a business trip in November. And you have to like you have to understand that I'm going through the most painful experience of my life, but I'm also falling in love with my best friend at the same exact time. It's like the most confusing, chaotic feeling I've ever felt. I go on this business trip to Virginia, and there on FaceTime, I tell Adam, I just like have this complete mental breakdown, and I'm like, I want to be with you. And I'm all the way across the country. I'm just having this like major breakdown, but I knew that I wanted to be with him, and I knew that I had wasted time kind of not giving him that chance. And really the answer is my perspective changed completely when I lost my dad. I know kind of deep, sorry, but but that's true. I mean, I I I've become a completely different person. Things that used to bother me don't.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

Things that this is so gay right now.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's the true answer though.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

It's it's love. I really don't answer it. I really like it. You know, like I I really talk about this, like, you know, I thought about this. I was like, we'll talk more about like your wedding stuff. Yeah. But like I was, you know, thinking stuff down. I was like, actually write it down because I I was typing it. And um and then, but like I was thinking, like, you know, over the people that like doubt you for like doubt you for so many years, and we all have to name names, yeah. Um except for a few. But like we we like people that like had this like um not like I don't know if it's intentionally, but like some like you know, a more of a like um a busting your balls type thing. And and it r really made me think like as you were doing this, it was like think I'm thinking like this man, like you're either I I'm ignoring it for me for real, but like for me, I'm like thinking like I wonder what Adam thinks about it. And I don't think Adam has no hesitation over it and he just keeps going. And then once you got the ring and you g you propose, and she said yes, and you and then you guys officially made this wedding happen. I always wanted to go up to those men and say, like, never underestimate a man that's in love. Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

And I I think about that a lot because like it does like it's a year, it's it's a it's a whole we're talking about a decade of like and like it's love is so unpredictable, but like love is also time. Love is time, yeah. Love is time, and then because you don't know where it does take you in whatever universe you're in, whatever timeline you're in in. Um it can happen any moment. And I I really I take that for granted a lot sometimes because like I you know, sometimes like for me, like I'm at an age right now where like I would I want to get married and I want to like you know have children and all that. But it also takes like the right partner to do that. Yes, and then the right partner. And then do I'm willing to wait for that, besides for me to get married for the sake of me being lonely and being single. It's like that that that goes through my head too. So um, but anyway, I uh what I'm trying to put uh what I'm trying to say is like this this is something that's been like you know, such a long it's like a movie in some ways. It's like a movie in some ways, it's like it's it's like a series in some ways where like the thing that actually we thought like were where we thought like oh wouldn't it be funny if Angela and Adam got together actually happened. Yeah. And actually people like like I I I we thought like it was funny, and then some people doubt it, some people thought it was like it would be a funny idea, and it actually turned a real thing. And I'm like, holy shit, that actually turned into a real fucking thing. That's where like my head that so when you guys were helping me during that time, you guys were telling me all this, like I was going, what the fuck? Like, what whoa, like I I put everything aside, I'm like, forget all my shit. I want to know about this, right? Right. And then I I kept and like you know, like as it went on, I was like, oh shit, well, cool, you know, like awesome. Like that's I'm like, cool, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 26:10

Yeah, I think we did confess to you that night, and the reason we did is because um Vi had called me. Yeah, I was like, I think you're the only one that he will listen to right now. Um, can you go? And I said, Yeah, Adam and I are 15 minutes away, and that kind of blew our cover because it was like two in the morning. Yeah, yeah. And uh we were like, Well, we may as well start telling people anyway. We just were enjoying that like just that blanket where you know we were that privacy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

We enjoyed it. We enjoyed it. We really like it. It's not very it's nobody's fucking business, exactly. It's just nobody's business. And I I fully was full on like uh forward with that because it it really isn't at the end of the day. It's no one's business. I don't care if anybody knows, but like also, yeah, but like some people would like to know from you know later on, eventually once the marriage happens and all that. That's like the big thing, yeah. Of course, but like yeah, that's gotta be that's be crazy. It it was communicating.

SPEAKER_06 27:11

And it was really hard to figure out how to go from friends to that was tough dating, like even like holding hands, or we we kind of didn't really know.

SPEAKER_04 27:19

When did that start to like uh become more comfortable? How long did that take?

SPEAKER_06 27:23

Uh a couple months, I would say, to be honest. We really I would say we officially started dating in November 2022, yeah. Um, because I was really just going through it and not in a place to even think about that. But once we started, it was November, it was early November. Um, and we didn't even really know how to do that, and it was a little bit harder, I think, than both of us thought to make that transition in our mind. Um, that we're friends that we're dating now, and we have to like do dating stuff. We hug different now and we hold hands now, and we pay for dates now, and it was really it took a couple months to figure it out.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Definitely, definitely a different transition than normal, I think normal couples. It was, you know, because you're going from best friends to dating.

SPEAKER_04 28:15

Yeah, I always wonder how that like transition works because like where you become like really close friends to now to like, oh yeah, we're dating. But like sometimes it does take like an instant hit. I mean, it's not like uh these other like freaking what these romantic comedy movies where it just like struck that. Yeah, but also you know, but sometimes it does happen like that, where like you know, you hold you hold all that in and you let all that out, but then then again, it does come with consequences because of um Oh yeah, because you don't you don't wanna because you know like the you don't want to you know that with that word that term uh you don't want to burn everything out.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

Well the fear of like what if you mess it up, then you lose your best friend forever. Yeah, like that's that was a big fear of mine when we first started dating. Like I was afraid that like I was gonna mess something up and I would lose her forever. My best friend and my partner. So like that was Yeah, it was like double scary.

SPEAKER_06 29:12

It was scary, it was it was really scary.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

Can I can I tell you can I tell you a very cute story? And I was I I do you mind if I tell you the story at Dreamst it was at Dream State? Oh at the at the after party? Yes, go ahead. Okay, all right, cool. I just want to go for do you remember that? I don't. What year? This was uh It was November two years ago. Okay when you just proposed. Go for it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Oh yeah that's not what I was thinking. I thought of the other one.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Oh the um I think I know what you're talking about too.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

So this one was this one was this the first night where we went to the after party.

SPEAKER_06 29:49

Oh yeah, because I went tonight too.

SPEAKER_04 29:51

You went to the night. That's right.

SPEAKER_06 29:52

That's right.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

So we went to the after party and we were like, and I was not in the right state of mind. Uh of course. I was just, yeah, whenever Adam goes through something, I'm like, shut up. I'm like, all right, buddy, let's go, let's let's walk it off. Like during that time we had just proposed, I was like really, you know, obviously very happy for him, of course. But like, so we were, you know, we were on stuff, and then we're at the end of the night, and we were having fun. And we were waiting for this after party, we're waiting for um Frank to go to the bathroom, and we were just staying there, and then all of a sudden I hear someone weeping next to me, and it was Adam. And I was I was like, I told I looked at him like There were tears of joy. I I looked at Adam, I said, Adam, don't you dare right now. I'm like, why you I'm like, Adam, why are you crying? And he goes, like, I am marrying Ange and I think it's the best thing of my life right now. It was the greatest thing. I was so I was so like emotional inside that I got really pissed off. I was like, you motherfucker. I'm like, motherfucker, why you have to say this right now when I'm like in the state of like trance right now. And then but like also I'm like, damn, that's really cool. Hell yeah. But like it was uh it was really we were you know, Frank came by and we're like, what's wrong? And then he was just saying, like, you know, I was very happy to be with her. I was you know, proposed her. I wish she was here and all that. I was like, I I really saw like a full circle now, and I'm like, oh okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

Yeah, well, you know, dream state does bring out those emotions because dream state that festival is you know a very those those festivals really bring you out on that.

SPEAKER_04 31:38

Yeah, it's very dreamy.

SPEAKER_06 31:40

Yeah, I I it really say it has like a softness.

SPEAKER_04 31:43

It's a very, very, yeah. It's a very it's a very delicate state. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Dream State is all love. Yeah, that's what it is. That festival is all about love.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

That la that last year really made me like it kind of gave me this like whole um delicate state where I was I was very frail at the end.

SPEAKER_06 32:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:02

At the at the throughout the after the festival and everything, and singing like, damn, dude, I'm like so emotionally like sad, and it was like it was good shit because like Pinot Tiesto came back after like so long, and um he was playing like good trance music, and it was just probably one of the best oh yeah, trans music I ever listened to. And um it was it was awesome. I I've I had a great, great freaking time with it.

SPEAKER_06 32:27

I don't remember Tiesto. Maybe that was I remember Above and Beyond, and we were like right in the front with you guys. Yeah, yeah, and it was like 90 minutes, and that was so good.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

That was good. That was the first time I ever heard Above and Beyond. Oh and I've I've uh I've heard of Above Beyond. I mean I've I I've been I've heard of them for so long, and I just never saw them live. And I was like, I really want to see them live, and then I s uh Ben then the the whole um the at first the whole shoulder-shoulder crowd, like that was a little much.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

That was a little much.

SPEAKER_04 33:03

It made me uh it really made me doubt of me wanting to see them, but like I right when we got in and then the music started playing, I just was yeah, it was uh after that was beautiful. It was so beautiful right after. And I've got into the I really got into him recently. I've got I think I I listened, I just listened to their set uh EDC this past weekend, and god dude, I got I'm I was a great host so hard. I was crying so bad because I I like a lot of their songs now. I have like I I if I if I had top if I have a top three um track from Above and Beyond, it would be Sun and Moon. Obviously, yeah, pop one. You can't go wrong with that. Uh We're All We Need. It's uh Elon uh satellite, yes, and um also Crazy Love is another good one too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Crazy Love is actually the one that played at Dreamstay when we saw them. That's where I I started to fall in love with them because they played that melodic song. I don't know who the singer was. I wish I knew. I think it was her name was Zoe Something, but like I freaking was in love and teared up from it. I'm like, oh god, this was good.

SPEAKER_06 34:16

Do you remember before we went to Above and Beyond, we were at the far end and it was that like alien abduction music? Do you remember being there at the other end and I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, I cannot remember. I was like, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

Dude, I was at my range back then.

SPEAKER_06 34:28

I was like, I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Me and we were freaking like headshot. Yeah, like they were liking it, but it was like I was I mean, the the the boo weird. It was uh people so so it was all side trance. So like the um everything was just all like thumping and and sounds like galloping horses, yes, yeah, yes, I couldn't do it, I could not and and we were and then like our shoes were all dirty because it was like rod and watered.

SPEAKER_06 34:55

My boots are still dirty from that night, dude.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

It was a freaking horror, it was like a freaking crazy uh fest around that whole area, and it was all slippery and shit. Yeah, it was very muddy, yeah. It was muddy as fuck, and um, but that that that's all side trance. I think we saw I think it was the same time we saw Maddox um from over there. It was Maddox and uh Captain Captain Hook. Captain Hook, yeah. Yeah, Captain Hook over there. And Asterix was yeah, it was Asterix or Asterix. I'm sorry, I'm thinking bag seats or some other artists. Asterisk, my bad.

SPEAKER_06 35:29

Um I like day trip better than Dream State.

SPEAKER_04 35:32

Yeah, I like Day Trip on the Dream. Last year was a lot better. I love Day Trip.

SPEAKER_06 35:39

It's my favorite. I like to go for one day. I don't really do both, but Day Trip is my favorite. Although we went to Core and had a really good time.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Core was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 35:47

Yeah, you guys saw Core and it was a that's a different animal right there.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Core is put on by the people that put on Smallland Festival in Belgium. Yeah, they're all right. It's a totally different company, and so it's uh they it's a totally different vibe that they bring in, which is really fun. I love it.

SPEAKER_06 36:05

And I did one day of Nocturnal, and I like Nocturnal because you can sit on the hill.

SPEAKER_03 36:09

Yes, yes, yes, and overlooking a festival. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_04 36:13

The scenery at Nocturnal is so beautiful at night. Very beautiful. Like, I'm telling you, like very beautiful. I don't care what you're on, but like you're sober or not, but like you're looking at that, and then it's a different fucking view.

SPEAKER_06 36:26

We watched Sullivan King from the top of that hill. Yes, we were so much. So we we guys were down in the bottom, I think.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

So we watched Zed. So we watched we were at watching Zed for one that night. Like we saw we just saw Seven Lions, and we were we were going like let's see Zed and see how he does. And um he he didn't come out as we thought we did. We were just like start playing a lot, like throwbacks, it's just slow. And then we were thinking, like, oh yeah, you know what, let's go see Solvent King. And we went up that hill and we saw Solvent King was a different fucking game. Yeah, it was I think we needed more like a more head baking right after we just saw like a whole we went through a whole roll roller coaster ride with like uh ballots and no and dubstep with uh Solvent King, but it was it was cool though. I liked it. Yeah, then um but however I we saw uh Zed the at Beyond. Oh yeah, and he was amazing at Beyond. He was yeah, he was really good. He was so good. God, and if you saw him, I think I don't think I ever did.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Zed is really good. I I didn't think he was gonna be that good because he's mainstream, but we were I was there up the front. That's what was our holy crap, he was good. I was working that show and I was we were up front. It was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 37:46

Me and Frank and Sil were thinking, like, I don't know if he will be really good, but I mean we'll we'll see how he does. And we we after we watched um I forgot who we watched. We watched someone before that, really good artist, and then after we uh then we saw um uh Zen, and it was probably one of the uh one of my favorite shows I've seen.

SPEAKER_06 38:12

I have not worked any shows since last year. I've taken a year off from working, so you always so what do you do?

SPEAKER_04 38:18

What do you uh what do you do at the festivals?

SPEAKER_06 38:20

Well we both work ground control. He doesn't know.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

You were doing RN or Fursade.

SPEAKER_06 38:26

No, they're mean in those tents. No, I like to be the nice friendly one.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

Um wait, I so when you did EDC.

SPEAKER_06 38:33

I was always ground control.

SPEAKER_04 38:34

You were always ground control? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:36

Oh yeah, because I shouldn't say they're mean, but there's definitely a judgmental like vibe from the medical team there, in my opinion. So I just Why do you think that? Because I've heard it. I've witnessed it. I've seen it. Like I've I've heard the like, well, what did you take? Well, how much? Well, why? Well, you know, and it's like the players. It's kind of too late when someone's already in that situation to like give them a lecture, right? Yeah. The reality is, especially at EDC, that you know, people are going to experiment there, and they're taking for granted if you're not from Vegas, you're taking for granted the weather for sure. Like the dryness, you're not sleeping, you're not eating, you're not rested. Um so everything like hits way harder. And I just never wanted to be like that. I like being the friendly one that just kind of drops you off and move on.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

Goes and finds another one.

SPEAKER_06 39:26

But last I might do hard summer. I'm technically supposed to work one to keep keep active, and I haven't done that.

SPEAKER_04 39:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:33

Um, but this year I just needed a break.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

You're supposed to oh, you're supposed to work one this year.

SPEAKER_06 39:37

You're supposed to work one show a year to keep your like active status, and I have not done that. Yeah. What do you wait?

SPEAKER_04 39:45

So if you don't do it, then you're I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 39:48

I don't know if they if you have to like reapply or whatever. Um, but the reality is is like this year with the wedding, and I have a really hard job. Like I just can't working these shows is not easy.

SPEAKER_04 39:59

EDC is like, you know Well, folks that don't know what you do, what do you do?

SPEAKER_06 40:04

You literally roam the festival and you are checking.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Well, what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_06 40:10

Oh, in my real life, I'm a director of nursing for a hundred and four bed facility. So I'm essentially 24-7 all the time, kind of sort of, not really, but yes.

SPEAKER_04 40:21

Um you still get beat by the old people.

SPEAKER_06 40:24

Sometimes, I mean, when they're when they're acting up, but I mean Adam got a little taste today. He came in and it's more just over stimulation than anything, but um so people pulling you left and right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kind of always getting pulled, or state walks in, you have to drop everything. So I already have a demanding job to work these shows. Uh I remember a lot.

SPEAKER_04 40:46

I remember one time when Ange like saw me and then she was like, Do you want to see a really cool photo? And then she showed me a photo, and then her lip is down, and you see a like a whole scar and it's bleeding inside her mouth. I'm like, Yeah, some old man just like trying to freaking. Yeah, they hit hard. I was like, yo.

SPEAKER_06 41:03

Grandmas, grandmas and grandpas. Why are you still living? I'm pretty tough, but grandmas and grandpas will hit really, really hard. I've had my nose broken. Like, it is not so it's just overstimulating. In my opinion, the hardest part of my job is just the overstimulation, right? Like constantly being needed for eight to twelve hours a day.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 41:23

And then someone calls in the middle of the night, my tummy hurts. I can't go.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

So that kind of sucks. And you have to do all that shit.

SPEAKER_06 41:36

Yeah. Yeah. So it's I love my job, I love what I do, but it does make it hard to do extra things sometimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

Yeah. So when you go to these, like you're you guys doing ground control, which is not that much to do, really. Um, but there's a lot to do, but there's not like a whole um ch like weight on you guys, like right. It's not heavy.

SPEAKER_06 41:57

Yeah, it's not mentally heavy, like the mental load of it is not heavy. Yes. Um, but the physical demands of the job is very heavy. Yes. So you're walking 40,000 steps a night, 12 hours a day.

SPEAKER_04 42:09

Oh, yeah. That's nothing to me, dude. That is a lot. This is just another Tuesday for me, madam.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

No, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_06 42:17

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 42:18

That's another Tuesday with me doing uh at the gym and doing the stairmaster, madam.

SPEAKER_06 42:23

40,000.

SPEAKER_04 42:24

40,000 steps. Uh and also working while standing. Yeah, that's fair, because you stand. I stand up. No, I'm just joking. No, go ahead. Yes, I understand. But like I gotta I gotta think, like, yeah, that is a lot of steps because you gotta include with the other people that go to the festival too. They they include all those like 40,000 steps. Yeah. I mean, that's a night at freaking haunt, really. Yeah, and that's what Adam always says.

SPEAKER_06 42:45

Like, it's like a night of life.

SPEAKER_04 42:47

It is like a night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:49

Well, I don't work on it, so it is hard for me.

SPEAKER_04 42:51

But you know the physicality of like just of doing the steps. You mean like that that will the step that step part include.

SPEAKER_06 42:59

Well, and it's also sometimes you'll find someone who clearly needs help, but they're like, no, no, and you have to kind of work with them a little bit, convince, encourage, because you can't leave someone, you know, when someone has taken too many of something, uh, you know, depending on what you took. I would argue that most people retreat from the chaos of the festival. So you'll have somebody jam themselves under the bleachers or lock themselves in a porta potty, and you're trying to get them out to safety. Um, and they're kind of fighting and they're overwhelmed. Like I helped a guy last year, he was so sweet, he had taken a horrible combination of things. I can't remember what, um, but he kept saying, You're you're deporting me, right? I was walking him to medical, and every 10 seconds he would look at me and he would be like, I'm being deported, huh? You're deporting me. And I'm like, No, no, I'm just taking you for a snack.

SPEAKER_03 43:47

You know what? You should do you should read off your list of what you did at BDC. She has a whole list of what she did.

SPEAKER_04 43:54

Yeah, can you show me like hilarious? Give me like one top, like the worst one.

SPEAKER_06 43:58

I there's no worse one. Ones. They're all funny. Okay, that's funny. I don't even have to look. The funniest one for me was the very first day trip I ever worked. I had never been. I'd heard of it, but I'd never been. And this guy came up to me, obviously inebriated on something. And he he looked at me and he said, Do you have a bag? And I said, What what kind of bag? Right? He said, I need a bag for portable barfing. And he was asking me for like an emissus bag, like a throw-up bag, but he said, I need a bag for portable barfing. And I just thought it was the funniest thing I've ever heard. That's the only thing, really? I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot. There was a girl who was pretending. Well, she wasn't pretending. She thought she was talking on the phone to her boyfriend, and it was a crushed water bottle. No, like, I mean, there's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

There's a lot.

SPEAKER_05 44:49

I mean, that's funny.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

No, you shouldn't have read the list. It's really funny. No, the list is not a lot of fun. Not the whole list. Not the whole list, but like some funny shit. We'll give you like one. Give us a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06 44:59

Yeah, give me like one.

SPEAKER_04 45:00

One more.

SPEAKER_06 45:02

I mean, hang on.

SPEAKER_04 45:04

I mean, how many do you know on top of your head?

SPEAKER_06 45:06

I keep lists on every show I work.

SPEAKER_04 45:07

How many? Do you know on top of your head, if you like can guess, how many do you of those things on your list do you have?

SPEAKER_06 45:14

Oh, hundreds.

SPEAKER_04 45:15

Hundreds. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:16

Yeah, from every show.

SPEAKER_04 45:18

Do you write them down immediately after the incident?

SPEAKER_06 45:20

Yep. Because I don't want to forget that.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

I wish I did that. I didn't do that. I don't do that. I need to write that down.

SPEAKER_06 45:26

Hang on.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

I shouldn't let you uh have memories that you can look back on me and laugh. You'll you'll forget.

SPEAKER_06 45:31

Oh, here's one. Um my hydropack somehow getting twisted with another guy's, and we snapped back like rubber bands, and someone had to unstick us because neither of us could reach it. So somehow we got connected to each other walking, and when we got the far enough away, we went right back right back to each other. I mean, that's not like a person. Um that's funny.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

Yeah. Uh uh, hang on. She got tackled once by a guy on acid.

SPEAKER_06 46:00

I did. Yeah. I did.

SPEAKER_05 46:04

Don't we that one, please?

SPEAKER_06 46:06

That was my very first year. Um mind you, I I need, I need, I need you to know that prior prior to dating Adam, I really had no desire to go to festivals. It was not something that I considered my thing. But I was like, you know, again, after my dad passed away, I was in my eat, pray, love era, and I was like, I'm gonna try things I've never done before. So I signed up to work EDC, having never been to EDC, I don't know what I was thinking. Uh went out there and I ended up working in Oasis, which is not medical, excuse me, but where you go when you're maybe having a difficult experience and you need to just kind of chill. And I was there with a bunch of people. I did not have like a like you get assigned to do one-on-ones with someone who's like really struggling. So if they're having a bad trip, you're kind of redirecting and just making sure you know the the thoughts don't get too dark, really. Uh, I didn't have anybody, and this guy came up to the door, and before I knew it, we were in the back of the tent, and Oasis is like all purple tents. And he had said that he was that he took too much acid, he was aware that he had done that. Uh, and then at some point he said, I want my phone. You guys took my phone. Um, and I can't tell you really what happened. I can tell you that my back was like against the curtain. Um, and he kind of lunged at me, and because it was a curtain, we both went through it. So now he fell on top of me and brought the curtains down with us. So he's panicking and we're tangled up in this curtain. I can't find my way out. He's on top of me trying to like, you know, he's freaking out even more. They're trying to like save the both of us. Nobody can find where the curtain is. We're wrapped up like a little burrito at this point because he's like kicking and thrashing and screaming. I feel like I'm in that scene in Jurassic Park where the dinosaurs coming through the window because I'm just trying to keep him away from my face because I have no idea what's going on. I can't see the curtains on top of us, it's totally dark, and he was fine. I was fine. Um, he just they had to come out and sedate him, and then he came back the next day. And I was like, oh god, no. But he didn't, he had no memory of what he did or yeah, yeah. That was my first year.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

First year ever worked working.

SPEAKER_06 48:27

Yeah, yeah. And and you can tell. I mean, we don't ask what people take, we never do, but I would say most people tell you pretty freely, but you can also tell because I had no idea about any of these substances, and I learned really quick.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Yeah, but you know how to do you can't tell like what what some people are on unless you can ask. You ask them so.

SPEAKER_06 48:45

I I mean I would say you can tell when someone took too much Molly, when someone took too much hallucinogenic.

SPEAKER_04 48:54

It's pretty clear when someone knows. I know when someone takes uh too much molly and someone takes too much coke.

SPEAKER_06 49:00

Yeah. Um like cocaine, I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

I know cocaine for sure. Yeah, I wouldn't know. I mean, I hung around with those people too. But like I hung around with like some people like that, which is like so highly like clicked on coke. Yeah, and then they yap about something for like 20 minutes, and you don't know, like they yap about the same thing, the same sentence, but they say it in different sentences. Oh yeah, I wouldn't know that. I'm like, oh dude.

SPEAKER_06 49:23

The only one I can identify is Molly. That's the only one where I can be like, yep, that's what you took. Yeah, yeah. Um, and then I can kind of guess for the rest, right? But like if you're asking me, like, did he take acid or mushrooms? I have no idea. Probably one of the two. Um, yeah. But that's wild. Most of it you just gotta kind of write it out, right? I mean, and that's what it is. Like, here, come in front of this fan, here's a little coloring book, like just kind of chill until that passes, and then they get up and they go on the crayon.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

Yeah, you literally just write a crayon and you just yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:53

I mean, coloring books, paper, uh, so clear like little fidgety things. No way, coloring books make it make that because it it gives them something to do. Yeah, yeah. So it kind of like slows them down, lets them kind of focus on something besides I think I'm turning into Pac-Man. You know, like whatever thought they have in their head, you're kind of slowing it down and getting them good to where they can go out and go back in.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Yeah. I was watching a uh I was watching a show, uh, Baricle's Soul. I was watching like the whole series with like breaking bad and everything. I love that series. There's a scene in Bri Barracle's Soul where like the drug dealer has these women in the house and they're like his like uh basically hookers, but all of them are freaking just like drugged up. One of them is like really drugged up to the point where she's like taking out uh a remote and she's like you know, finding ways to like take out like the thing and looking around and like very frigyline and like and just like not stopping. And um and I I'm like kind of curious, I'm like, what's what's the whole like what kind of drug is that make you do that? But but then again, you kind of the way you describe it just remind me of that scene.

SPEAKER_03 51:07

The all the drugs in Breaking Bad and Pargon Fall is like meth. Yeah, meth. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I just watched Breaking Bad. Yeah. I just finished it. You just finished it?

SPEAKER_06 51:15

We well, I had never seen it, so we just finished it a couple months ago. Do you like it? It was okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

I loved it. I loved it.

SPEAKER_06 51:22

It was not my jam, but I appreciated it for what it was. It just wasn't my it was pretty dark.

SPEAKER_04 51:29

Watch uh watch watch Barracle Soul because if you're gonna be asking, yeah, maybe we can watch that. That one will that one's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 51:35

I love that show.

SPEAKER_04 51:36

And the ending, I thought the ending for for Breaking Bad was great, but the ending for uh Barracle Saul was a great ending too.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

Did you watch the El Camino movie? Yeah, I watched that one.

SPEAKER_04 51:47

That was a good one too. Um I didn't I not was not a huge fan of the ending, but I thought it was a I thought it was okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Okay. Of El Camino. Of El Camino, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:58

Breaking Bad was a little dark for me. Like I didn't, it was just a I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 52:02

No, you're gonna watch if you watch if you're not gonna like that. Well, Breaking Bad was just because there was during the time where a lot of things were as far as restrictions were like a lot of them was open.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

Uh Barracle Soul is kind of like that, but it is um there's very some things are just taken out that are not too yeah, like chopped up heads taped to a turtle is not something I you know what I mean. Like well, this this was a different time of TV, you know, that's a different era, but this now, like it it's when it slowly graduated to Barracle Soul, it's changes. It's it's a different thing, but you kind of get the reference a lot with the things if you if you uh pay attention to the show.

SPEAKER_06 52:43

I have Adam watching Jersey Shore right now. He's never seen it. He's never seen it.

SPEAKER_03 52:47

No, never seen Jersey Shore. And we're on episode four of season one. Do you like it? It's alright, it's uh different, you know.

SPEAKER_04 52:56

It's like okay, besides that show, do you have something that you have to have to like you besides break besides Jersey Shore, do you tell do you have a show that you come up to and tell him, like, hey, you're gonna sit down and watch me with this?

SPEAKER_06 53:12

Game of Thrones. We're doing Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah, Game of Thrones, yeah. Yeah. Um, and I pretty much make him watch all the Love is Blind.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

Yeah, yeah. I've watched every single Love is Blind episode available.

SPEAKER_06 53:24

Love is Blind and the Ultimatum.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Yeah, and that one too. You know, and Love Island, Australia. That was fun.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

Oh, you like that one?

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Oh, you like it? You know what? Love Island was pretty cool, actually. It was a no remote Love Island. It was a good one. He liked it. I like it.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

I watched a lobe of it, and I thought it was.

SPEAKER_06 53:40

It's it's very it makes me frustrated, Love Island. I I get frustrated with it.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

It's so funny how like you make Galilee's shows, like you, you you know, like people in relationships make you know, like the girlfriend or the boyfriend make you sit down and like it's like kind of like in the contract, say, like you gotta watch the show with me. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 53:59

Oh, there's one series for how did I forget? What do I always make you watch?

SPEAKER_03 54:03

Oh, um which which one?

SPEAKER_06 54:06

What did I watch on the plane two days in a row?

SPEAKER_03 54:08

Oh, jackass.

SPEAKER_06 54:09

I make him watch every jackass movie over and over and over again. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

Wow. Yep. I know one, two, three, and four, and all the point fives.

SPEAKER_04 54:20

All the point fives. You wanna know it's funny? Most of my exes that I've been with, every time I had to watch a show with them, it was always sex in the city.

SPEAKER_06 54:28

I've never made a watch show.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

I've never seen that show. Oh my god, you don't want to.

SPEAKER_06 54:32

I like it. I do like it.

SPEAKER_04 54:33

I I I was um suffered by a lot of like the the like the lot of the sexual frustration, the the wild side of like New York. I I went on the like the tour during a time with my ex, and we we got to like see the whole tour of like sex and city where all they shot at went to New York City. This was like a decade ago. And um, and then uh but like I I watched show like that show um years later with another ex that was a fan of it. I'm like, I I can't seem to get off of this. I'm like, I'm hoping like one day if I find the right woman in my life that she will not like it, won't like that she won't like it, but yeah, I can watch something else with their I don't know, like Stranger Things. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 55:16

Well I haven't done Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

Oh my god, it's such a great show. Really?

SPEAKER_06 55:20

I think everyone loves it, but we haven't actually yet. We did the Ed Gean.

SPEAKER_03 55:24

We have God, we watched Ed Gean. That was so fucking disturbing. Holy fuck. It was good. It was great.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

A lot of it, you know, a lot of it in that story it wasn't true, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:37

No, it's true, right?

SPEAKER_04 55:39

Not a lot of it. I think a lot of it was like the um the exaggerated. The the a lot of stuff was exaggerated, but the what was the what's the term called when um dead fucking?

SPEAKER_06 55:51

Oh necrophilia.

SPEAKER_04 55:52

Necrophilia, yeah, necrophilia. So like he was doing a lot of the necrophilia stuff was like true. And then with his fucked up with his mom but with his like his mom was and also I think a true thing as well. Which I that's why, you know, yeah, that's why it's so cool. Like, I like the whole transition, like how that connects with like psycho, how that connects with like Chainsaw Massacre. Um that that's that's great. I I like all that, but like the the the all the stuff I I've heard, like all the scenes that they were putting in, a lot of it wasn't true, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_06 56:24

Yeah, we were horrified watching it.

SPEAKER_03 56:26

Yeah, a game, man. That fucked me up.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

Yeah, it was uh it was it was uh unfortunate to see.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

We watched it during October at night, so it was always kind of I watched it during yeah, I watched it during uh I think November.

SPEAKER_04 56:39

Yeah, and I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. The first episode m made me freak freak me the fuck out. Yeah, like especially that scene when he goes, he looks at the woman and he's like, hello.

SPEAKER_06 56:51

Yeah, we talked to each other like a fucking month. I would be like, Do you do you want some tacos for dinner? He wants some he wants some tacos from the kids. Mother We called each other mother. Yes, mother, yeah. Do you was that the year that we went to Dark Harbor with you? That was last year where we went to Dark Harbor remember that night?

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Yeah, yeah, we did, we did go there. That was fun. That was a lot fun.

SPEAKER_06 57:14

I was really bummed because we ran into Jerry and he posted a really cute picture and I had food in my teeth. I saw that. I saw I was looking at that photo and it was like I was looking at that photo, and I'm like, oh yeah, everyone looks cool.

SPEAKER_04 57:29

I was like, what the fuck is in Anne's mouth?

SPEAKER_06 57:32

A huge chunk of something like a huge chunk?

SPEAKER_04 57:34

And I was looking, I'm like, there's no way. I'm like, that's gotta be like a shadow or something.

SPEAKER_06 57:39

And I looked, I'm like, unfortunately, unfortunately, it was real.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Yeah, that's uh I had fun.

SPEAKER_06 57:46

I always kind of talk shit on Dark Harbor, but I had fun.

SPEAKER_04 57:49

It's gotten a lot better because like it's it just came back as like Dark Harbor itself, and uh, you know, but like a different production's making it, so it's a lot different. I'm glad they had like the Slayer show, the Sliers Unite, and everything was really cool. That was a good job.

SPEAKER_06 58:03

Uh the bubble party was really fun. I don't know why. I don't know why we're having a bubble party, but it was fun.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

I thought it was great. I think it's just like it was a grey idea that they brought back, and they they needed to um yeah what was it called? Spirit Horizons or something like that.

SPEAKER_06 58:17

I don't remember the bubble party.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

Quite a bunch of dark harbor people are mad at me for it.

SPEAKER_06 58:21

Um their makeup is so good though. Makeup was a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 58:26

They they changed the makeup uh look this uh this past year uh or last year. They they made it more um more like skull themed, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:36

It's fun to see haunt people working dark harbor because they look so different.

SPEAKER_04 58:40

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:41

Everybody at Dark Harbor has makeup, right? There's no mask, nothing.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

No, no make no no mask at all. I don't think I think that's like maybe one or two, but that yeah, but I then again I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 58:54

I just feel so bad for the guy in the strobe room at the end maze because I know I hit him so many times. Remember, I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_04 59:02

The strobe room.

SPEAKER_06 59:03

Yeah, the the shipping container, the packing, whatever they call it, and then you walk in and the strobe is like so intense.

SPEAKER_03 59:11

The strobe was so intense. You're walking through there and she's just like fell flailing her arms trying to like find her way. Yeah, we yeah, we couldn't see anything. God damn it, Andrew, because you're so high, you're like yes, you were all so high in the pole.

SPEAKER_06 59:26

Where is the door? Where is it? I couldn't find that. I moved your hand. I do enjoy haunted event.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

Haunted events on edibles is a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. It was so much fun. I actually uh it was so funny.

SPEAKER_05 59:44

We'll see how long you gotta tell the story when you were driving. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

So um, you know, like I don't I don't drink anymore. So like I I just I I took edibles, um, you know, sometimes on occasions, but like I I but like one time so that last year uh when we went, we uh we all were like let's take edibles, but I'd waited till like the end to the very end. Yeah, I was like, I didn't want to take it because I was too scared that I would be too frail, tired, and I would just pass out. I was just overthinking about it, and then uh and then you guys were like already on it. And then at the end where the bubble party happened, I was like, I was looking at Ange, I'm like, yo Andrew, give me, give me like he was ready. I was ready. So I took half and I was like true on him. Then like then I didn't feel it at all for like 15 minutes. I was like, okay, this is probably nothing, I'll probably take the other one. And then like 15 minutes later, I felt like I was being lifted by the bubbles to from my foot, my feet, and I was like, I was like, holy shit. And then and then I took the other half and I was already freaking high. And then I sat down in the back seat, you were driving, and you were you were driving Adam. I was like because you were paying attention one time, and then you I don't know if you did he almost hit somebody or he didn't know you just went to a rock car.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:15

He does not drive when he drives.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:17

I don't drive when I'm high. He drove really fast, and I was fli I was freaking the fuck out. And I knew, but I knew it was just me because I knew it was me because I was just high. I was tripping out, and then I I and then you were you guys were looking at me like, oh, do you want to see like the bridge? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys went to the bridge, and then but like as you were looking at the bridge, as you were driving, you were looking at Ange the whole time, and I was and I was looking at you at the same exact time. I was like, tell like as if I was telling you, like, keep your eyes on the fucking road. Keep your eyes on the fucking road, man. We love that bridge. I was so fucking pissed. Well, like, I would same time, I was like, I I I understood. I was like, you know what? Um it's probably just me at this point. I'm just shopping the fuck out. So but it was fun. Yeah, it was fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:08

Dark harbor was fun. I always like I said, I always talk crap, but I did really enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

But being a I know and a haunted attraction while on edible is actually the coolest thing ever really.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

What's more fun though? Is it is it more is it more fun at a festival or at a well it's totally different.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:25

It's totally different environments like yeah, it at Haunted that you get completely immersed in like just this foggy atmosphere and like just the ambiance of the music and in the background and like yeah, it totally like takes you to a different place. Like I remember now I have a a really cool memory of walking down, we were uh at Haunt. We were walking down uh fog alley and I was high as balls on edibles and like walking through Fog Alley and I got to the end to where the windmill was, and the fog with that night was so thick, it was extremely thick, and it was it was on a Sunday with barely anyone around, and for like 10 seconds I had no clue where I was. I was completely 100% lost, and I didn't know where I was. Like anyone else would say it was the coolest thing because like I w I worked there for so long, and to still be able to get lost in Ghost Town is awesome. And th to figure out like where the fuck am I? And like to have that experience was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:35

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think I've I think I think uh I've I gotten to myself to that point too. But like, I mean that's that's I mean, I mean, while you're high, it's gotta be a lot different. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I I think so cool. I find it really funny when I yeah, the gauntlet too. It's really funny. But I do have a s I do have another story from you both. We were we were uh watching um so it was the second night. It was the second night. So this was right after um Above and Beyond. This was so this gotta be two years ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:08

When we see went to Dream State, we just saw Above and Beyond. Great. And then the crowd got a lot less, and we wait started going to the front and it was started to slightly rain.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:18

Yeah, we lost you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Oh yeah, yeah, but we I saw you guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:22

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:23

I saw you guys, and you guys were fucking just blazed. You guys are fucking blazed out here.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:29

For legal purposes, and then I just is a joke.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:32

I know, I know, but you guys were just high as fuck uh from edibles, and then you so I look at you guys, I'm like, oh, there's Adam and you know Angela, and I just we're just there, right? We're pretty close. Yeah, and I turn around and I saw Adam like hold like having his his arms, he was right behind you holding you over. Oh, and you both were just like, you guys look like you're about to fall asleep just immediately.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:58

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:59

You guys like look like you're just about to fall asleep just immediately. It was so funny. Yeah. I turned around, I showed, I told Rufie, I'm like, dude, you gotta check this shit out.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:09

I we talk about this all the time. I grew up in a family where everyone smoked weed. Um so it was very fucking hippies. Yeah, I grew up I mean, the very first time I ever got high was with my dad. So I took a little bit of a break, I took a long break, but I have always been pro-weed. Yeah, like I've been pro-weed. Like don't don't get crazy, don't drive, don't do anything irresponsible. But like nothing's gonna happen as long as you can kind of handle yourself. You don't want to be the person that's like obviously passed out in the corner.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:40

I think it's I think it should be like something that should, you know, it's not not becoming a uh of of an issue like it is right now. Yeah. Where it's you know still being uh looked at. Um I what is it called? Is it just uh is it like uh I think it's called where they're doing right now, they're they're doing another. Thing with um marijuana they're I don't know they're doing a re-emission, I think. I don't know what it's called. They're doing something with it. I think the Trump administration's like doing something with it. Anyway, I don't know about it, so I don't know the whole thing about it. But anyway, but like I think it should be like, I mean, obviously you you use it, I think it should be legal for most states. And if you if you know how to use it, you know, be responsibly, you know, take self-control. But I understand what people that that don't know how to use it and they're yeah, you know, they're so out of control. Like I know I went to AA meetings, like where there's people that are not just like are coming off uh of alcohol, but they're addicted to weed as well. Right. Because they said like once weed hits, it leads to other things, and um, you know, like it it does to other other things, like where you say like if you drink, if you do coke, it leads to other things too. Um that that's uh that's the same thing, uh, you know, like I I've but I haven't had a problem with it. I think that I'm very fortunate that I haven't had an issue with it at all. Um, you know, but like I always say that I'm very fortunate that I've um I've been self-controlled by drugs, but I've been fucked by alcohol. Yeah, so I've been I've been through uh a lot of well alcohol is like the worst drug ever. It's the worst drug ever. Probably the worst or worse worst thing that you can you can go come through. I think that's the wor if anything, that uh um I don't think anything like tops that at all. I mean if you kind of if you think of like what what's uh the one drug that is the most addictive um I gotta say it's alcohol. Yeah, I mean you can you can add like meth, yeah, methamphetamine and coke and all that, but yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean that's that's gonna be a lot different. Uh do you uh so uh now I think we just talked about this, we talked about this yesterday. Sorry. Um yeah. We uh so two weeks, you know, now that EDC's they just announced that they're doing a two-weekend thing. Two weekends. So you guys are you guys are officially going to the second weekend?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:15

Yeah, we are officially at the second weekend.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:19

I'm a little worried. We were talking about it yesterday. The desert does not like me. I do not like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:24

Oh my asthma. Yeah, she has asthma.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:26

Really is bad there. Is it? Um god, when I came back last year, I was really down bad for a while, but um, I've never attended, so we're gonna attend and do it. And I don't really want to camp.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:40

I don't want to camp either. After our after our last incident.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:46

We could bring that in. Oh 2023. No, it was 24. Was it 24? Yeah, it was 24. Yes, it was 24.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:56

I feel like everything that could have gone wrong went wrong that year.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:58

That was oh my god, if I felt like it was like three years ago, but it was like two years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:04

That was remember the like the 1 a.m. shopping trip.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:07

Oh my god. So folks that don't know, we so folks that we don't know, we went to but an adventure, uh nonetheless.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

Yeah, that was an adventure.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:15

It was so folks that don't know, we went to EDC. Me and Adam and Angela went to EDC two two years ago. I it's my first time going.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:24

I was working.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:25

You were working, you were you were doing ground control, you were intending with me. We went with another group of people that we won't name that we went.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:33

Um and some of those people are great.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:35

Those people are great. Yeah, so the rest of them were just like were really rough. Weird. Yes. But we went, we went, and um Adam said, like, hey, uh, we're we're leaving on Wednesday. I said, why? Why are we leaving on Wednesday? Well, there's something going on the next day. That actually that day that day that day of when we get there, and um or was it the day it was the uh wedding. It was so yeah, so it was I know, I know. But like the day of you won't freaking don't freaking try it out, don't we were trying to keep it anonymous? Yeah, trying to keep it anonymous, dog anonymous. But like it was a wedding and we went there. We we were I think it was the night of or it was the it had to be the night of it was the night of yes. We went to dinner, yes, we went to dinner, and the whole world fell apart. We yes, yes, I remember that. Yes, because we went to the night of, I don't know why I'm I'm I'm uh blanking out on this, but I should remember. But like I we went to the night of and we went went to a wedding and um during the time you know I'm I'm not sober at all. I was drinking like a fucking um like drinking not even a little bit sober, not even a little bit sober at all. And I went over there and I fucking got so hammered that night. And I told Adam so the first we had this so Adam was telling me, hey, we have to sleep in this RV area. Oh yeah. Do you mind? I was like, I have no fucking choice. I'm like, we can't sleep inside the fucking hotel that those people got. I'm like, we gotta sleep inside. Stupid. So we got so we went, so I slept in the RV and I could I told he said, like, do we he goes um I'm going to bed. I was like, Adam, it's 10 o'clock o'clock at night. I'm like, I'm gonna go walk around and drink, and I don't give a fuck where where where it takes me. I I went I told I closed that door, went out, I drank. I can't I don't remember me coming back. And I went back and then came back, and then yeah, and then I I came then later on that night we woke I woke up well we it was like around one o'clock and we we we went to uh what was it Waco? We went to Waco at one o'clock in the morning. I was fucking hammered, and you were you were talking I was just talking to you, and then Angela was mad about something. I was tired.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:59

It was like the grumpiest shopping trip ever. Yeah, then Adam hit uh hit us with a don't tell me how to park.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

Because you you were you were yelling at Adam about something, and that was the first time I saw your car, and I actually I went inside and I said, Ange, nice car.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

I had a new car.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:14

I was like, I didn't know I'd never seen your car before. I was like, Ange, this is a nice car. She goes, Thanks. Yeah. And then and then I we went to grab like drinks, food. Like food like was so unnecessary that we didn't need to buy. We and then we uh we so right after we went to uh then after we went to the camp and after we Adam broke his phone like day one. Broke day one broke your phone. Never ran into each other. He was I was so mad. I told him I was like, you can't use my phone, you can't use my phone. I was being really stubborn. I'm so sorry. I know. I was like, no, I was being really stubborn. Then like then and then I I I went over. I I took I remember we went to the pre-party at the Mesa at camp, and it was cool. I met a lot actually met a lot of cool people that night. And um, and then and then I went then I got freaking I was high and drunk, and then Friday, then just Friday came around and I was like then we started the festival.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:17

Yeah, and you did it all wrong. I did it all wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:20

I did it all wrong. However, however, our party had done it all wrong too, yeah, because they had no strategy going on with everything. And that's not knocking on who they are, because I obviously that doesn't I'm not trying to be reductive on them for for what behavior they were doing, but like I I thought was you know, like I thought it was just really just unorganized and it was just such a disarray. Yeah, and um yeah, so we were so um I I I was really at the point where I told Adam, I said, Adam, I'm gonna be on my own. Yeah, I he goes, like, you won't want me to go with you? I was like, I was like, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:04

First time you see it.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:06

Yeah, he goes, You don't want to see the lay of the land? I was like, No. I got it, I can figure it out. I can figure it out. I'm like I figure out myself. And then I went on my own. I went on my own.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:15

Did you figure it out? Not really. Not really.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

Not really. It's a very overwhelming environment. It was it was a very overwhelming but very cool environment. The festival itself was fun. It was awesome. It was great. I don't even remember Saturday because the Saturday was so fucking blazed on my mind. It was so high. This is it was so bad. But like, um, and Saturday was yeah, Saturday was bad. And then like we we were so unprepared on cooking. Like, Adam was trying uh telling, look at me. I was like, Adam, we're cooking. It was like, oh I don't know, I thought that was your idea.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:51

I was like, Adam, that's not gonna be my idea. They had like hot dogs, and it was just oh my god, it was so bad. Like take two dudes grocery shopping to camp.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:03

And it was we were just so just very sloppy and unprepared. Yeah, yeah, but it was not not that that's like against you because I'm I'm I'm not trying to bash on you for that. I should actually reason I actually I should say sorry for you. No, I apologize for that. I felt I I actually apologize to him when we went to go watch the fight. I told him like I'm so sorry that I put that through. Oh, it's all good.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:27

Yeah, well, I got a lovely call too about you.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:31

Yeah, you did that that Monday. Yeah, because okay, so so I'll lead to that. So Mon so Monday, so Sunday, the night that the after the whole night was the last night, and then the after party was still going on. I was obviously unwell, blazed, drunk, dehydrated, dehydrated, yeah, the whole nine yards. I was starving, starving out of food, not even thinking my well-being. Yeah, and then I was still awake. It was like nine in the morning, and all of a sudden I wasn't remember being the mesa. The sun was blazing my head. I had my I had a hood, I had a scarf over my head, and not even thinking what to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:11

Oh, you're wearing a hood over your head?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

I was wearing a hood over my head. Yeah, I know. Without being criticized.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:17

They're allowed there.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

Say a lot in the back room.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:21

They're not allowed in Ghost Town, but they are allowed at EC.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:25

Um, so like I I was like wearing a hood, I was wearing a scarf over my head, and then like I I all of a sudden like my whole like vision just went dark, and I remember people like carrying me and uh a bunch of people carrying me over to the med log. I was dehydrated, sick, just like completely unwell. Um again, and uh I sat down in the bed tent and then someone gave me IV, and then someone was telling me, like, you know, do you know who you are? Do you know where you are? And I was like, I was like, I need to check out. And um she then they're like, Okay, well, we have your phone. I was like, okay, I'm like, okay, no. I knew immediately that they were gonna call somebody and I said, do not call anybody, please. And they're like, Well, we have to call somebody. I was like, Don't, don't, please. I I'm like, well, I'm gonna keep you in this tent until you're actually feeling better. Yeah, and then and then uh then they they uh looked through up my phone and they said my ex's name, and I was like, do not call her.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:30

I was like, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:32

That's a that's a big no, do not do that. And then right up sorry Monica Not even her! It's not even fucking her, you fucking that was a good guess, but um um that's so funny, but like then they're like, Well, there's a woman named Angela. Uh we can just texted you. Yeah, just text me, like, can we can we text her or call her? Um I I was like, you know what? Fine. And then and then I then you text me. Then I remember she was telling me she brought the phone over to me and she's like, um and she's like, do you it's like hello? I said, and she's like, I'm in the met ted. She you go, all right.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:19

Well, keep in mind I work 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. So by the time I'm getting your call, I had probably been asleep for maybe an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:29

So I need a little more information than I'm in the med. Oh my god. Um and I had been texting you because Adam's phone had broken and I was trying to make sure he got to my hotel okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:41

But yeah, that was an adventure in a few years.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

It was it was a very and then I went out and I I was I remember barfing in that RV that on the way back. I was so sick. I got dropped off in the bill, the the like the mill of like the uh when we were home from those people.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:58

They just threw you out?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:00

They didn't threw me out. They just said like, oh we have to drop you off because we're going this direction. Can you take an Uber from here?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:05

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:05

Which I felt like they basically did. They basically did drop me off on the middle of the road. I was like, because I barfed, I was like, oh, at the at camp or are you talking about we're on our way back? Oh shit. Yeah, it was it was horrible. It was really bad. Yeah, I I felt it was probably the worst experience I've ever had in my it for folks that are listening. If you want to do camp, do not do camp like that, but you actually can't. You definitely could do camp. You just don't do it that way. Don't do it that way. Mike, don't do it. I'm like, you you can do camp, I just don't do it. Oh I did. Do it Lucio David.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:43

The only reason I don't want to camp is just the heat, to be honest. I don't want to get the company. That's the only thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:48

I'd rather not do it with the heat. And then especially when we were in the sp that that little uh what was it called? Uh uh that tent. What's the tent called? Uh it's called it. No, no, no. We call it. A space pod. A space pod. Oh, yeah. We're in the space pod. The ship pod? Shift pod. Yeah, we in the ship pod, especially if the other person was inside our fucking ship pod. What? Like, oh, that other fucking woman that was inside? God damn it, dude. Who the fuck do you think you are, Adam?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:13

No, you were so nice to her. I was like, Adam, who the fuck do you think you are? I was like, I was going crazy. I was going crazy over that, like that person's.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

Are you gonna be mean to our techmate? Are you gonna be nice to our techmate? No, no, I'm trying to be- You have to be.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:26

I was really I was trying to be nice to her, but like at the same time, I was I I We are living together four days. So you gotta be like, she came in on like day what day two or three. Oh god, I'm already having like I was freaking the But yeah, she was weird. Yeah, she was really weird. Weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:47

Oh well, Adam knows all about compromising when it comes to living with people now.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:52

I I do know about compromising. Thanks. Thank you. I appreciate you very much.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:58

Oh yeah. How is that compromise with since you guys are living together now?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:03

It's been uh it's been pretty easy for the most part.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:08

We have different uh are you guys s is it is it much different? Like, is your is your com is your way of like cleanliness way different from like now than you used to live back then? Oh yeah, like I've gotten way better. Okay, yes, a lot better. Yeah, yeah. I like for those people to hear so that way they're not fucking judging on you.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:30

I would say the biggest difference we have honestly is temperature. I like things not hot.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:35

If you want to live in the North Pole, live with Angela. Oh, you will. She has to have the air conditioning on the entire thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:42

I mean, I have the fan on right now. What do you think I'm just fine?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:45

But like in the winter time? I don't run that in the winter time?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:49

Like you don't you really I don't use the air in the winter, but I don't use the heater either. I don't like heaters.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:55

There's no heater.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:56

Why so it smells weird? I don't know. She hates heaters.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:59

So is that why you're so fucking pale?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:01

Yeah. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:05

So the coldest day in January.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:08

He came home from work one day and it was like 52 degrees in our apartment, and he woke me up. He was so mad about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:14

I was freezing cold, and she's like, No, I don't want the heater. And I was like, We're turning the heater on.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:19

So say if we get it like say if we like next time, because I'm pretty sure if we do this together, we'll get like a hotel. Yeah. Yeah, more likely. Yes. Yeah, more likely to get a hotel. Like it you will throw that. I well, it's pretty reasonable to throw a temperature, like throw the cold temperature like that because how hot we've been doing. Yeah, hotel is fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:39

But at home, like I just I can't sleep when I'm hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:43

And Adam can.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:44

I can I can't I I can do it, but I'm I'm very I have a very heat uh my body, my body heat is just it I don't know what what is what's up with it. I feel like I'm like sometimes I'm like cold when I when when I'm cold, like when people when I touch my skin, it's like it feels like a uh ice, I'm like touching ice, but sometimes when I'm touching my body, like it's just it's feels like hot coal. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:10

I sleep warm, don't I? Yeah, yeah, I sleep really warm. Have you seen him sleep?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

Of course she does.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:20

Do you know I have a picture of him?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:26

You took a picture of me while sleeping.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

Send it to me. You weirdo. Before we were dating. I gotta before before you guys were dating. I I took one night because I was really mad that you were sleeping here. I was like one night. That was I not to be like, there was one night I was like just really irritated. I was like, I just wanted to be alone. Yeah. Oh, I get that. Yeah, no, I'm not trying to be mean, Adam. Just you know I'm not. But like I when you were sleeping here, I was just I saw you have your hand over here. Oh, yeah, yeah. I do. And it looks like you were like thinking as you were sleeping.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:57

No, he sleeps with his elbow out like this, so it's usually like me catching an elbow like right to the nose, the head.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:04

Oh, now I've seen it now. I've I mean I've seen him sleep, like now it's it looks a lot different. I'm like, I'm like, oh, this elbows. I'm like, oh yeah, this looks a lot better.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:12

Like this looks a lot better from like the last time I saw it because you were just like this this whole thing, I did not understand. I was like, I was wondering if you were like doing this as an act, as if I was like posing posing. I was like, once you left, you have been like, oh ho, stupid ass.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:28

No, we I mean, I think we adjusted to living with each other pretty easy.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:32

Pretty easy, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:33

The biggest thing was I had cats and they had to kind of figure out.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:38

Oh, how many cats do you have now?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:40

Two.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:40

Yeah, two.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:42

Silky Johnson and Savannah White.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:44

Yeah. Yep. Savannah White.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:47

Savannah White.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:48

Yeah, they have full names.

unknown 1:24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:50

Oh, don't put the girl on the case. Savannah's my cat. I adopted her.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

Oh, that's the so you guys adopted a cat together?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:58

No, not.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:59

I had both of them prior to moving.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:00

But I took over Savannah because I love her.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:04

And right now, the biggest challenge we have living together right now is like the wedding supplies have taken over our living room.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:10

Oh, yeah, yeah. We have a whole warehouse.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:12

We have a whole wedding warehouse in the front room, and that is annoying both of us, but it's almost over.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:19

Can I can we say no now that like I've got the box? Can you show me can you give me the box right behind you, please?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:25

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:25

Can you give me the box?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:27

Oh yeah. Yeah, Adam still has.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:29

I still have uh two other people to ask. So um I was received this last week? No, two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. So um so two weeks ago, um Adam, I went to uh I mean Adam hung out because we wanted to watch the the Sean Strickland and uh Shemiah fight at the UFC at the bar. And he goes up to me and goes like hey buddy, I wanna give you something. And then um was like, Oh that's what he said before he proposed.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:03

It's so weird.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:06

He did.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:06

And uh, I just want to give you something.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:08

He's like, I want to give you I wanna give you something, and then I was like, Oh, okay. And I was like, I at first I told him like Adam, are you gonna shoot me or something?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:18

Then I was just okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:20

I said, I said Adam, are you gonna be went? No, I I said like are you gonna are you gonna capture me or something? And then all of a sudden he pulls out a black box, has your name on it with my my name on it, and I was like, Oh, no way. And then I opened the box and it says, Will you be mine Gruzman? Oh yeah. Yeah, then I said definitely not yes. I said yes. Um, yes. He said yes, everybody. I was like, fuck yeah, I'll do that. So I am Adam's uh Gruzman. I'll be there. Def I said I will definitely be there. I said I will be I was like, I'm gonna be there no matter what. I said, but now I am definitely gonna be there there.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:06

Oh yeah, I am definitely gonna be there.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:08

My question is, Ange. Yeah, and um am I able to write a speech?

SPEAKER_06 1:27:14

Oh god. I mean, maybe we could work it in.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:18

Do you know I mean he wants to talk? Do you know, do you know you want to know a story?

SPEAKER_06 1:27:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:24

Literally that after that night he told me when we got when he dropped me back off at home. I immediately wrote a whole page of a speech. I wrote the whole sp I have a whole speech set. Drafted.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:37

Okay, fine, read it on the pod.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:38

Okay. Drafted and it's no, I'll cry. No, I I have it ready. It's like set, like it's Well and I think we gotta, right? I mean I have it, it's kinda it's not that long. It's like about it's gotta be like you if you if you give me time to talk about it, it'd be like five minute stops.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:55

Well, I'm sure we can work something.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:56

Do it. Do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:58

I think you can do it at the rehearsal dinner.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:00

Yes, I do have to like I do have like a couple of things. I do have to like uh draft it out like a couple things, but like I have a whole speech ready.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:08

Yeah, we can do it at the rehearsal dinner.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:09

And it's it's appropriate for like the only thing I Yeah, don't throw any yeah don't I'm not throwing anything like sexual or anything, but like I'm I'm or edible. Yeah, no, no, not that either. But like I'm uh not totally not that. The only thing I'm gonna like I think the only word I I I said was I think the only meet like the only mean word I said is shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:30

You're fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:31

Oh fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:32

Um my bridal party is all set, our officiant is set. We're just waiting on the final two for Adam. Yep, yeah, I guess. And then everybody will be in one. But Wyatt is our officiant, so we're very, very excited about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:48

And we should be excited for him because he just engaged.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:51

He just got engaged.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:52

I know at on Star Wars Island or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:54

Yeah, Star Wars Island is so cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:56

Star Wars Island. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:58

I they filmed Star Wars there or something. I don't know. It looks really pretty.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:00

It was at it was at Italy and then got engaged. So that's the right thing. This is so cool. He was on the pod here recently. So it was great. I really had a great time with uh like I I I was really happy that he did it because he was talking about like he gave us a hint about something. He was like, we were talking about it, you know, about bringing him up. He's like, dude, I'm like, I've been so busy, like I gotta pay off, I gotta pay off um I I gotta pay off something like it's like really expensive. And oh god side eye emotion.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:30

I was like, oh well proposals are hard.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:33

I mean they are definitely so let's talk, let's talk about that, Adam. How hard was it for you to propose? Give us like some context of how you what was going through your head. Can I say oh actually, no, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:46

Go through go say your part because I'm gonna say my part uh on this because I I kind of I never never got the hint until when you were talking about okay so basically basically going into 2023 haunt of and I knew in the summer after we went to Tahoe, we went to Tahoe together, and uh we spent the whole two weeks together in Tahoe. It was like, oh, just this is obvious, yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:14

We knew we were gonna get married too.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:15

Yeah, we yeah, and it was like yes, it's like so um in September it was like trying to find a ring while they're going to haunt at the same time, and that was a lot of that was interesting trying to find a ring and picking out the right one, and picking out the right one is a big deal, you know. You know, you you have to see the ring and see the you know what the vibe is, and definitely picked out her ring, which is perfect for her. And so um, and I didn't know if I was gonna do it in the beginning of October or the end, but it was like no, it's definitely the end, but not on the last day because that was the 50th, and the 50th I'm not that important, you know?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:00

The 50th It wasn't that important.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:10

Yeah, it was me it was like I gotta I gotta get Merrick into the zone for the 50th. It means a lot.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:17

Yeah, so not the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:19

Well, it couldn't be the end because on the 50th, everybody was retiring. It was a big deal. It was like so that you know that was gonna overshadow everything. So like I had to pick the day that we pick was the 29th. And um going into it, I was scared as hell that whole day on the 29th.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:42

I was he was staying with you, so did you notice that he was weird?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:46

I well, go go ahead and finish it because I I I gave I I I will tell him my part.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:50

Yeah, yeah. So on the on the day of, I was scared as hell.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:53

Like And you told sorry, but you had told me that I had to come that night.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:57

Yes. Because they were doing a skit for somebody who means some skit, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:02

Somebody who was quitting, and I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:04

Yeah, you gotta see the skit. It's gonna be the greatest thing ever. And so I made yeah, she showed up, and I was scared as hell with planning this. I was planning this with uh uh The Witch and uh Tamar and because they were Brent and all of them, all of them they all knew what was gonna happen. And Morty Morty was another one. Morty was the big one, he it was very important, played an important role. Um so I had Morty. Um no, no, no. You were on the porch and like you were the plan was that I needed to be on the porch by like 11. By 11.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:44

But we were over there lollygagging with you in Carnival, and he was freaking out.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:52

Yes. Because Wyatt and Nelson were supposed to make sure I got there. But I mean, we all know, right? That if I don't want to do something, yeah, so Wyatt and Nelson are like, let's go back to Bird Cage and I'm like, no, let's stay here for a bit. Like Carnival was fun to watch. Let's stay here, let's stay here. They finally convinced me to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:10

We get on the porch, and we she got on the porch, and that's when I um No, first they moved me off. Oh no, I I was yeah, I was so they got through the porch, and I told and I told Tamara and told everybody, get everybody off the porch, clear the entire porch because I'm gonna propose to her on that porch. I didn't tell them that I was already on the porch. She was already on the porch, and so they cleared her, they cleared everybody, including her, off the porch. Get the fuck out of this castle.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:44

No, because she was so nice about it. She's like, just for like five minutes, something's happening. Do you mind moving? I'm like, no, not at all. So I get up and this is Mikey. I'm like, let's go back to Courtney.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:53

Let's go do whatever. And I I was so nervous, I forgot to say, hey, don't tell, you know, Wyatt is doing everything he can to keep me there.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:00

Yeah, including just saying, I don't know why I remember, but he was saying the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Like, he was like, Oh, we can't go. We can't go. And I was like, why? He said, Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to say that part, but he goes, Well, um, Trey's mad at me. And I said, What? And I look at Trey who has no idea what he's doing. Trey's not even looking at you. He's way over the what do you mean? He's like, Well, he's mad at me. I said, I don't care. Right? Then it's something about this Chowder cat. I don't know who Chowder is. Uh Chowder's gonna break the record for sighting. So it's a chowder. I'm just ripping why at anyone says I want to leave, but he's not leaving.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:39

Yeah. So why is trying to hold her in this position position? And I'm with Morty, and Morty uh was going is playing Merrick. He was being a fake Merrick, and I had to uh bring more Morty over to Bird Cage, and um Wyatt's holding her there, and I'm like, and I then say, Alright, go do your thing, and I go, he does Merrick, and I go walk over to the porch and I'm walk up on the porch, no one's there, she's not there. Oh no, looking around, where the fuck is she?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:14

I don't know how you didn't hear me.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:15

And I was just looking all over the place, and this is like sitting on that fog box. Two minutes go by, three minutes go by, four minutes go by. I'm like, oh fuck. And Brent is finally. Yeah, Brenton's walking back and forth. What is going on?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:30

Huge crowd of people starting to flip.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:32

Starting to gather because they know what's gonna happen, and then finally, um Nelson, Nelson told me, Chief, right here, Chief over here, and was like, What? And then so I went over there. I was like, yes, and then Morty came uh Morty came closer, and um, and then he was like, Yeah, she was looking right at him like this why does he look so different? Why does he look so different?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:59

In the video I say, why does he look like that?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:01

Yeah, why does he look so different?

SPEAKER_06 1:36:03

And then I've never seen Mary's skinny jeans, you know, so I didn't know what was happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:08

Yeah, yeah, and then uh during that line, I'm like, just walked down off the porch and uh did the thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:14

And Morty killed it, his back was to me. So I really once he kind of got on the ground, I didn't notice anything, but he really committed and we love him for that. But yeah, Adam came around the corner and I knew right then I was like, oh shit. Like, oh no. Oh god, today my hair's a mess. Like, oh god, I'm wearing Converse.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:34

Like I saw you guys wearing like a hood, and like you were in it.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:38

Adam was just like the shoe bomber.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:39

Your shoe bomber.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

Yeah, I had a hood on.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:41

Yeah, your flip-flops. I I wore a mask over my face so she wouldn't know who it is. That's so funny. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and we did it.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:50

And we found out later that everyone thought I said no because it took a long time to put the ring on. But really, I was like moving rings around.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:59

But I found out later that everyone thought I said no because Adam was on he was on his knee for so long he had to switch knees. Yeah, people, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:07

Jesus Christ. Yeah. Make up a narrative. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:10

But that was a that was a really fun. You almost ruined it, but it was fun. Yeah. Yeah. She almost ruined the proposal. Not being able to find her on the porch. That was so funny. Pretty funny.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:21

And it was fun to tell people.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:23

Yeah, then then you guys went I found Yeah, we can see you. I s knew that like throughout the night. Like, I was thinking, like, well, he's gonna do it. And then I'm figuring like I never got a response or anything. I think I even texted him, like, did you do it? And then I asked. Then uh then you guys came by to midway and then I saw you guys together and I was like, Oh hey, uh I was just interacting, and then you pulled out the ring, and then I and you guys have it on on the whole video. I I was screaming, I was like, Holy shit! But then I I was so lightheaded, I took off my gloves and I freaking hugged you both and I was like, Yeah, okay, man, everything. So, but like I so it was funny how like my end, because you so when it was like during the middle of haunt, and you were telling you know, usually you were during the time coming to my house and staying, and then uh usually you're just sleeping and you just like get re shower and get ready to go, and you don't do anything else. You haven't ever since you've been staying my house during the during haunt. And during there's this one time that you were you woke up and you said uh you said uh hey um uh hey buddy, I'm uh I'm going to the mall. Oh yeah. I'm like, I'm going, I'm oh no, like I'm going to sorry, I'm going to the yeah, he said at first, I'm going to I'm going somewhere. I was like, oh okay. Before I came here, I was like, oh okay, I'm going to the gym. He's like, I told him, where are you going? He goes, the mall. I was like, oh okay. Didn't even like cross my mind. Then I'm thinking, like, later on, I was like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:02

Yeah. I'm like, the mall.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:05

And then um I was like, oh, okay. I'm like, well, probably like for for something. I I don't know. Like, he probably needed to buy something at the mall. I was like, I mean, I go to the mall too to buy things. Um haunch related. I hope so. And then uh yeah, then I then a week two weeks after he uh he tells me um, hey buddy, um uh I'm gonna go out again. I was like, oh okay. Um where where are you going? I said the mall. I was like, all right. Then literally two minutes later, I was in the bathroom. Uh two minutes later, I opened the door, I go, the mall. I'm like, what are you going to the mall for?

SPEAKER_05 1:39:43

He goes like, um I'm only I'm I'm gonna buy uh some pants. I'm like, pants pants. At the mall. I'm like In October?

SPEAKER_06 1:39:51

In October? I'm like, when we have no free time.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:54

I'm like, no free time at all. I'm like, Adam, we got like only a few hours. Like, let's let's get it, like we can't be here that long. He goes, like, I'll only be back for a few minutes. And then uh then uh then I started to like pick up on the thing where people started telling me like oh he's gonna propose, and I'm like, Oh he hadn't really told that many people, I guess. But I can't tell anybody, but I can see from his but I saw from him then he was very quiet. And I was like, Yeah, and I told him, like, hey, uh, are you just are you what's uh are you ready for a whole day? He's like, Yeah, okay. He's like, I'm alright. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I didn't like not that I know what was going on. I was like, Yeah, okay. Then I was like, yeah, he's very quiet one night, but then I thought like, oh, he's ready for like something huge. He's going to war somewhere war with his head.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:51

I thought it was really beautiful because before he proposed, he asked both my brother and Matt for their blessing.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:57

I did.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:58

In lieu of asking my dad, he asked. I have always considered Matt my brother. Yeah. Um, so he asked both of my brothers for their blessing, and both of them are walking me down the aisle. So that is like a really cool full circle moment. I had been, I knew I wanted Matt to walk me down the aisle with my brother, but I just asked him like a month ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:15

That's cute.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:16

I was really nervous to ask him. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:18

Then then I knew. I was just like, I how do everyone else know? Everyone, everybody knew. I maybe more than he said, hey, I had to come off. Then then I told then like Sinatra was telling me about it, and I said, that's when I said that that line. I said, I said, never underestimate a man that's in love.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:36

I said, do not, I'm like, that's a man that just took it took a long time to actually to build this up and it finally became a fruition. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:47

Yeah, when we were both ready.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:49

You're both ready, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:50

When we were both ready, and it has been so easy.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:53

Yeah, ever since. Yeah, yeah. You know, very easy.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:57

The wedding. We're super excited about the wedding. We're we're ironing out a couple details, but I'm excited. The music we picked, like everyone's gonna we crying, screaming, throwing up the whole time. Like the music we picked is amazing. Our entry song is Griffin.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:12

Like, we are really we really are. So this is all gonna be like EDM music? Not all, but I like it, but a lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:20

A lot of good.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:22

Yeah, but yeah, there's there's a nice change of pace.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:24

Yeah, it's not just dumb wedding. Playlist music. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:28

No, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

I I know how to get to dance floor mode. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:32

So so who's your DJ? Sor uh Sword for Salem?

SPEAKER_06 1:42:35

So no. Unfortunately, they were booked that night. San Diego.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:40

Evan couldn't make it.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:42

Yeah, no, they're playing some big show. They're playing uh Escape that weekend.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:47

It's so dope.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:48

No, but we're we're really, really excited. We just finalized our menu a couple weeks ago. We have a cake tasting, my dress is about to be returned to me. Like everything is really we're not doing a first look. We're gonna see each other at the aisle for the first time. That's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:05

Yeah, it will be crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:06

Yeah, um, we're reading our vows in front of everybody. That will be crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:09

That will be crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:11

I I really do.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:12

Yeah, it's gonna be really do you have something set? What? Do you have something for a vow?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:17

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:18

Yeah, yeah. He's like, it's in three senses. I love you.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:22

He's gonna go full the thing that we were just laughing about though is that he's probably gonna have full Merrick voice during our letting it's early on.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:30

No, my voice during October will be fucked. Oh yeah, it's uh during that time. Yeah, yeah. But uh we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:38

Are you excited for that though? Yeah, yeah, it's coming up soon.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:41

It'll be fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:41

Dude, it's coming so fast, it's coming so fast because I just did I I you know, I just got booked for the slime audition. Oh yeah. And I just went to the slime rink for the first time. Oh god. Um for god and I went a week ago. I I completely was just so um like I I I was just rough. I was just like, yeah, just uh you know I mean what's the term? I'm not even thinking of the word. Rusty? Rusty, yeah, rusty. Sorry, rusty. I'm thinking of it things started with the R. Anyway, I was rusty. I fucking sucked. I was like, I I looked so bad because I was with it was kind of cool because I was with like the Queen Mary people. Oh, cool. Uh Queen a lot of Queen Mary people were really nice. I got to meet like some of them, but like I knew most of them, like Paul was there. Paul, like I got talked to Paul for a while, Paul Vertigo. Um, he's a ref that um Oh yeah, we met him. He's super nice. Yeah, very nice. Yeah, yeah, he's really was really cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:41

We saw him at Queen Mary when we went, right? Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:44

He was he he was awesome to uh to uh to hang out with him and his brother uh uh Brendan. And uh I got to see like a bunch of other people that were there. It was just like I I learned how to like kind of like a lot of like muscle memory, but a lot of things refresh refresh my memory a lot. Yeah but it was uh it's nerve-wracking. I was like, shit, dude. I'm freaking nervous. I wasn't I I'm so glad because I didn't rip I didn't rip a a um compress uh legging, any of my compressed leggings. Oh yeah. Every time I do, it's like it was because of my right knee. My knee was fucking weak. And um yeah, it was bad. It was fucking it was but I'm I'm excited though. I'm kinda interested in seeing how this thing's gonna turn out because um, you know, after last year was a little weird with this whole social media policy was like different. Oh, yeah. What was the policy? I don't even know. Uh the social media policy was like with um in um they were basically saying like we can't interact with a camera. Basically, yeah. And uh the a lot of that was just like weird, but um so you're supposed to like turn around when they pull out the case. Yeah, we were supposed to not interact, not to pose, supposed to walk away, not pose. And I was not like I wasn't that that was nothing to me because I was I didn't do that a whole lot. But it was it was um it just felt like you know, people were there to like get photos to get there for publicity.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:11

I mean I would argue that some of those fans really do want those photos and those interactions.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:15

Well it was photographers, so it was having a hard time for photographers like actually like getting to like it, you know, interact with like people the people with uh photographers with had cameras on it. So it was um it was rough. It was rough at first because like I knew I I didn't have a problem with it, but when so like my niece, my my s my niece and my sister came by, which are a long time like they've been a fan when I was uh doing carnival. So when I was there, my sister was recording, and I had to tell her, like, oh fuck, hey, I can't like interact with the camera, right? And she goes like, Oh, I was like, Oh, why? And I just I had to explain to her, I'm like, dude, it's uh it's a policy. And um, so that's when I felt bad because I couldn't take pictures with my niece. I had to find a way to take a picture since they weren't allowing at first, and then so like the last week or two of haunt.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:07

I feel like that role has never stayed consistent.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:10

It was it it was it was really yeah, and I think people were probably fighting over it because like you know, you know, people just didn't want to like deal with this like unnecessary policy.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:21

If my family is there, I'm taking a picture with my family.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:24

Yeah, I like it was uh I thought we I think we took a picture last year.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:28

Yeah, like if I'm taking uh if my mom and dad were there or Angela's there, I'm taking a picture with them. I don't fucking care. That's what I'm doing. Wow, yeah, I get it. Yeah, get it.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:37

We don't take a picture every time I come. I go like twice a week.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:40

Yeah, yeah, you don't yeah, you only go like Thursdays and Sundays.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:42

Thursdays and Sundays is the best days ever. Maybe Wednesday if they throw that in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was um yeah, it was weird. But then again, it was during the time when everything was all merged with six flags and a seat affair together. So and then they they what really uh really like bothered me is that when they when people were filming in the mazes, which wasn't a problem at all until like the first week of haunt last year, then they started throwing out this other policies saying that you can't film in mazes. I'm like, so now you're just throwing in policies out randomly just cuz? I'm like, what so what's what's the with the watch with that?

SPEAKER_06 1:48:24

Which I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, we had gone to Fright Fest, we never went, and I thought people were filming in there and taking tours on the street.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:30

Yeah, yeah, this but this was during the time when Fright Fest was like open before did you guys go before Haunt was starting when Knotts was starting? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so this was like way before. So that I'm talking about like literally when the first week after Knotts started uh uh started, they started throwing the pol the snow filming and mazes policy. I'm like so now you're just like giving you're just you're not giving the the radiographers and anybody like the work that they want to do or the content they want to do. It's I'm pretty sure they they've that's like a lot of they want to film in the in inside the mazes, and now they have to give them like they don't they they had a hard time getting like approval for it and they even had a hard time like when leads will go up to them and tell them like you can't throw the camera right in front of their face and it was just it it was uh bad. And I I I think it was in a way where we didn't understand what the actual what they want us to uh comply with that policy. I and I'm one I'm curious how they I I'm curious how they want to do it this year. Um I go when I just go there, I just go to work. You're you're different. You're a different you're a different animal. You're just gonna work.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:45

I don't care about social media. I just do what I do. I know you do. I know you do. Yeah, and everyone else should kind of do the same because uh that's what they're for.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:54

Sometimes you we we have to live by your values, Adam. Because um a lot of People are just go by a different way. I know, I don't understand. I think they they go by they go by uh a lot of things that they think that's their currency.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:08

No, no, we're there to scare people and that's it, and go home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:11

Yeah, I don't I well, I think your your scaring and everything is your your passion and everything. Yeah and um being your character and um peop the rest of the people that do all the rest of the stuff is uh I mean it's not saying that I'm not trying to knock on them, uh you know, people that are doing lore character work and all that. I I I'm not trying to You can do both. You can do both, but I think there's a balance between that. There has to be a balance, yeah. There's gotta be a balance. It's gotta be a balance. I think people lean too toward too much on the lore side. There's some. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's not like a thing that we don't I'm not trying to I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be reductive on those people. I'm the I think it's just a way of being there's a course correct there's being course correction.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:58

But when you how about lore, you know you and I did that lore shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:02

Yeah back in back in the day, but we were trying to underst I was trying to understand my character, I was trying to evolve it. Yeah, but like then I got like then but at the same time I was trying not to lean towards too much of that. Yeah, like there there's comes like there was a time where like I was leaning too much of that, and then that affected me from scaring. Right. Like so like I told myself, why just go out there and go scare? Right. With besides me focusing on that too much, you know?

SPEAKER_03 1:51:28

Yeah, because I think you and I started to do it a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:32

Yeah, then we were like, yeah, then I then I had to back off. I think the whole arguing thing was me. That's when I started to realize I'm like, okay, I need to like go out there and scare more. Right. I think the whole argument, I think people wanted to see that.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:44

They wanted to see more of it, more of it. But I think uh yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:47

Then I I I had to back off because like I wanted to go scare more because like I think that was just the thing that I liked the most and it was more important. And I think people don't see that a lot, and some people don't see that a lot. I think seeing like seeing they they want to develop they want to evolve a character so so much and add things to the character with other people, like you have to when you interact with me, you have to do this, like type thing. I'm like that like so now we're we're going through this like LARPing way of playing. I'm like, no, we're not doing that. I'm sorry. But like, and then I get shit for do I get shit for it? Absolutely I do, because I I and and do I give a fuck? Absolutely not. I do not give a fuck. But also at the same time, I understand if you're trying to do a play a character that you're you're uh trying to portray, but at the same time, there's a there's another side where you do that if when we if we were just doing just that, if we're just doing eve like um doing uh lore character work and and uh theatrical playing, then it will be a different different thing uh Halloween event.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:57

But if we if if we're but then when it comes to scaring, like that gets out of the picture.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:04

And that's the problem Knott's has right now. They're going way too they're trying, they're like sorry, Andrew, they're emphasizing character work way too much. Way too much.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:15

They're trying to like but they're also the same time they're trying to get people back into the all the other the old the the original value.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:23

We need to do that because it they've been going too far, been trying to be like, what's your character, what's your backstory, what's all the bullshit? Who cares? Yeah, I I think like it's it's all about scaring it's all about scaring at the number one, two, three, four, five priority is how are you gonna scare people when there's twenty five thousand people in the park? Yeah, that's how I was scared. No one else is gonna care what your character is when there's twenty-five thousand people in the park and you have to go scare one person, next person. No one's gonna figure out what your character is, backstory, who cares? No one's gonna figure that out. Your point is to scare the fuck out of people. That's the point.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:02

Yeah. I think that's uh that that's a uh kind of a way of put it, but like for me, like I I understand that because like if I was e you know, giving though I give a backstory, I give this whole backstory of my character. But like I I have to find I have to find between those like stories of like say my character is you know my asylum character or my I say my uh I should give my another example is uh my my carnival character is a um it's a split personality character. I'm not gonna give a whole reason why I'm like uh to uh this theatrical reason why I'm this character. I'm gonna find out like, okay, well, I'm a split personality clown and a boss man. I'm gonna find ways of like scaring as a split personality character and also scaring the shit out of people with my boss man character all at the same time. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:58

But if I'm a casual guess when I'm walking by you, I have no fucking idea what you are. I'm just no you're a clown. Yeah. Yeah. Baldass clown. Yeah. If you're a clown and you're doing weird shit, is it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:08

Yeah. It's uh it's it's things like that. Like we we, you know, it's a it's not a heavy topic, but it's like it's a topic where people are so divided on. Yeah, it's uh it's a problem like that. But I I wish people were, you know, were more rational. I think if we were more rational in some ways and more civil with with that conversation, we wouldn't we wouldn't be so against each other for that. Yeah. Because I think like we we me you have a different value of of of scary and being at haunt. I think uh now we're you know, we were just talking about this with Wyatt and Vi and Aaron about like how the the culture has changed over the you know oh uh over the years and it's not the same. Yeah, yeah so we it's changed over the years, and then I I said I weighed in, you know, because they they gave their own opinion as like an outsider. I gave myself as like a talent because I'm still active um uh other than them, and I said that like you know, I you know, I understand what they're trying to what they're trying to do. It looks like they're trying to push the same agenda, but um, but also at the same time Um I'm learning to adapt but also keep my but not to be swayed by their values and I'm being to to say to like say like okay, well I understand but I'm trying to be I'm trying to be rational but stay with my own values. Yeah. And I in and it's and it's that's is that good? Yes, I think that's good, but also at the same time you gotta you can't be um criticizing or you know have animosity to towards it because I I I think that that causes like that does cause a divide the divide because I know people have different values over besides people that have those uh values for the new generation, right? And um I but same time I'm just like I'm not trying to like create animosity, but like sometimes people have this like when the when the newer generation or generation uh below that have um have an issue um with it then because that some of those people in the below that generation that were around the old generation during the time that are are so in or so s involved to like this new generation's values, um if you're if you're following it, is that like they're they're so against with the people that think so differently right themselves. And I I I just like I hate that. I hate when that happens. Like when you when we're trying to like under trying to be rational on both sides, be civil, but you're you're just you're you're not doing that. You're you're you're saying that your your agenda is a lot better because you're you're trying to push that narrative where I'm pushing where like hey I understand where you're coming from. I'm gonna I'm gonna let you do that, let you do your part where the where where the the the lore and the care the the scaring comes in, but I'm gonna be like I'm gonna go into a different mode where I'm like I'm doing yeah, lore is uh is a percentage, but also more of that is all scaring. And I'm gonna fucking scare him, get like get those numbers down.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:20

Yeah, no, I I had a talent come up to me last year as a brand new person, and he was talking to me about character work, and he was like all in his head about like what you know how do I portray this character? How do I get this across to people? How do I do this? And like it's making me think way too much, and like I'm trying to make this character work, and I'm like, and I'm just looking and and and just looking at it. His costume was awesome, and I'm like, dude, the point is not to think about what your character is doing, it's about going out there and how your character acts. How does your character scare? How does it how does your character scare people? It's not what what your character backstory is, it's about how how are you just gonna go scare people? And how are you like your your costume, you make the costume scary, you make it scary by your actions, not what you know, and and I'm like also and he said he was thinking way too much. And I'm like, don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:30

Don't think that's what that that's a great thing. I learned from him too. Is that like he um I learned a lot from like Adam is that like don't think, just do. Don't think. Just do not think, just go. That's why you summon that's why you summoned the whole thing with my my Asylum character. Remember that Ange, did you tell you that one night when he was uh he was it was so funny when I I I think I told you this. Um when he was one night where we were like I was I was scaring of this like my asylum character was sort of new, and I was trying not to, I was thinking too much, and then um he was telling me it's like you're thinking too much, you gotta let it out. You gotta let it go and release it. And then, dude, like I and then he goes like I'll go with you.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:17

We're at Burkage, and this guy was yelling at me like he was like a messiah, like yelling me behind me in his telling me, You gotta let it go, you gotta let go and release it, release the man out of it, release the madness, release the madness of it. Like, do it, yeah, and I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:39

And then he comes backstage, he's like, How do you feel? I was like, I feel great.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:44

Fucking great released the madness, Messiah. I told that to a person that the guy was talking about, and I told him, Don't think and go out and do and I kind of I always tell people that every time I went and ran with him, and he went out there, he didn't think at all. He came back about half hour later. He had no idea what happened. He was like, What the fuck was that? Yeah, I lost all track of time. Like I was I was just going and it was like it was the coolest experience ever, he told me. And it was like that's what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:16

Yeah, I think a lot I wish I wish you know uh I hope someday a lot a lot more people can get into that without you know you know with other other stuff being line.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:27

I have a I have a background in acting, so I'm I I took acting classes in I took acting classes in college. I'm a major in that area. So like I have a little different background in that.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:41

I don't think a lot of people Well you come from a different background. I do. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do come from a different background of older generations. It's like that oh that's it's different. So like when you when you hear when you hear that, when someone hears that from a newer generation, it's it's a lot they take they respond that a lot different than uh than others. Yeah, like if I was it like I I'm in the same boat as you, dude. Like I told people, I told newer generations, even last year, you know, they were overthinking. I I told some of these clowns that were in Carnival Carnival and I told them that you know, like you just can't think about it. Just do. Yeah, just do the thing. Just do the thing. Don't even think about it. As someone struggled like that, and they you know that she got a lot better ever since. And you know, it's like it it's moments like that where you gotta kind of uh we're we're uh we gotta kind of lead uh guide them in that way, besides, you know, um uh gatekeeping them or keeping them uh in a way where like that that's acceptable where they are and then they don't they they don't see that as a struggle because it's like kind of like complacen uh complacency in some ways. Uh there's compla uh uh complacency in some ways. I can't even fucking talk. Uh complacency in some ways where like it's that that part where they they find they find that like where they get told that this is the direction that you need to go to from especially from the newer generation, is that this is the direction you need to go to and there's nothing else. It's like one it's like one size fits all. I'm like, that's not the whole thing. No, no. I'm like, you can take it as much as you want, of course. I know I'm not like look, I'm not saying that you don't have to like I'm not saying that lore and all that is bad. If you want to go do lore and care and scare all that, like do deep lore and character um and scare, you can do that. That's that's totally okay. And I I'm not like against it, you could do whatever you want, but like if the if that's something that you're struggling on and you're still saying you're not if you're having this complac can I can't even say the word complacency over that, then you're you're gonna have a rough time at haunt.

unknown 2:03:53

Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:54

Right. Like it you and like especially when you're being you're refusing to like not get any help from that. But like I'm not saying that you don't you're not I'm not saying that people are not doing that, but like you know, people are also you know, some people are quiet and don't know what they're doing, right? So I think it's great that we're like someone like us is like we're gonna be able to do that. We can help the new generation.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:14

I love helping new people. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:16

And they can take it as they want, yeah. I know some people I gave them the advice and they don't take my advice. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure that's on the same thing on your boat, too.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:29

So yeah, I I love helping new talent find their way in the new generation. Yeah, it the new generation is uh I like coming from old school generation, like I come from a very I'm glad that I came from a old school generation the crumb of it, I would just say. We came from a generation that was very aggressive and very just yeah, it was all like do uh DIY things.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:54

That generation wasn't playing to cameras either. No, yeah, no, they were playing.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:01

I don't think social media wasn't that big at all until during that time. During that time, even that even that time it wasn't that huge. I mean, that's gotta be 2013-14. Yeah, social media was around, but it wasn't it wasn't as huge as like people take that now. Like now that's the currency for for the newer generation, that's their thing.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:20

I mean, Angela remembers old school gauntlet, there's nothing like it. I don't care how that is. So that generation and everything.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:27

They were not playing to cameras because nobody was going in with cameras, right? Yeah, TPA was around, they would do their thing, but that was usually a one-night thing. But now you've got people, you know, Snapchatting, TikToking, Instagram, like every single night with every single character they experience. It does change it a little bit. It does.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:43

Yeah, it does. It's a it's a lot different.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:46

I never understood all the hate that Carnival got for their new look. I loved it.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:49

Oh, I didn't know I know um at the best. I never really did people hate it.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:54

Oh, yeah, I heard a lot of people did not like it. That hockey player, 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:59

Will was fucking great. The crossing guard. Oh yeah, Dylan. Yeah, Will scare we call him scare actor, Will Hart. He's the best. Yeah, scare so the the the funniest but the girls looked so cute.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:13

Like so the that so scare that they looked great too. All of them look great. We thought that was a that was a great look. I never had a problem with it. I did like the the uh Dust Bowl era. I think it's one of my favorites. It's a great especially talking about 2014, where that was a golden era during that time. It was like it was I I think personally, but like there there is a time where like but that time, I mean we're now where where we had the the black, red, and white, like different color schemes, and everyone had it was all on uh was has occupations, and um so like we we all had jobs, but like it was cool that we were able to interact still with as as clowns, yeah. But um I had a lot of fun last year. I had probably the one of my funny one of my funniest times over there.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:01

The little nerd clown. Oh, yeah. Oh, see. She's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my whole life.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:05

Seth was great.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:06

No, the girl. Oh, Seth is at her name.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:08

Oh, um Audrey Audrey, Audrey Sit. Well, yeah, she's a she's a schoolgirl. Oh she's she's really yeah, she's the nerd though. She we go do call her the nerd. Yeah, Audrey Audrey was great.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:18

She's the girls looked adorable, but the guys were so fun. Yeah, like there was not one copy.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:22

Scare actor Will Harney was the funniest. Because so we call it's funny how we called him.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:27

We fought him a couple times, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:28

Yeah, yeah. So we we kept on calling him scare actor Will Harney for like a while. And then there was one time when he was scaring somebody, he was doing his whole Canadian voice, and then he was right next to me, and he scares someone, and he starts saying scare one. He goes, Scare one out of nowhere. And I was like, What? And then I left counting. Yeah, and then I was like, and I went up to him, I was like, I scared somebody, I went, scare two. And then uh then we were we were kept on saying that ever since we're like scare one, scare one, and um, we called him scare uh kept on calling scare actor Will Harney every time. But like he dude he would do shit like that was he did this one funny thing to photographers, he would go up to them and he will go up to them and tell them to click to the options to delete their whole camera whole photos and they would do it, no, they knew they knew like the whole thing. They were like, if you just press this and this and press and press okay and mean and press all and press okay, and then you delete some photos, and then the the ones they were they were doing it, they go up to the they it was three steps. It was something else, alternate, and press okay. And then the second step when they under they knew they were like they're like, No, no, we're not, I'm not doing that. I was like, he's like, go press okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:45

Are you sure you want to delete every photo you've ever taken ever?

SPEAKER_05 2:08:49

He went up even when we went up to Chris Gornish and started saying that to him. He takes so much photos, and he was like, No, no, do that.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:57

I fear that the gauntlet is my favorite place. I was a ghost town girl for a little bit because I hated everything that Camp Snoopy was doing. I did not the hollows, I did not get. What was the necropolis?

SPEAKER_04 2:09:10

Also, it's pretty interesting to look at.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:12

But the gauntlet has my heart forever. They have the best.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:14

Well, gauntlet was golden. The I mean, going back to old Gauntlet during that time, it must have been like I I never went to it, but like I saw costumes videos, and that that must have been like the golden time where I mean you got like there was some like heavy, there was some fucking stars over there. There was like you know, Paul Fruschette, Jeff Star, uh Gary Spack, like there was so many people over there that like you had Josh Mickelson, Josh.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:42

Yeah, Ferret.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:44

Ferret. Oh, yeah, Ferret was over there.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:46

Brandon was there when he first transferred over.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:48

Yeah, there were so many people. Bastard. God, yeah, there there was some, and I'm glad they brought it back, and then it's still it's still like you know, evolving to this day. They're adding more things to it, you know, adding more characters. I'm glad they're adding more characters, and I think they're gonna add, I'm hoping they add more this year.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:05

Yeah, it's not the same, it never could be.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:08

Oh no, it's the best in the park. I don't think it doesn't top off like the old gauntlet during the time.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:13

No, it never will. No, special time.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:16

Yeah, but now I'm back to thinking, Ghost Town's a little boring.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:20

Yeah. I mean that's your fall anchor.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:22

Yeah. Conquered.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:25

I wonder why. Yeah. I wonder why.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:27

Yeah, so I I really think the gauntlet is the best one in the whole park.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:31

Yeah, it was great. I think everyone had a lot like I think the gauntlet was one, and then I know some I know like the people had their own place, though their own opinions about every other street zone, but we had a we had a quiet big bit of people say that Carnival was top hit too. Carnival's fun. Carnival album. It was fun. We had the most I think we have obviously I'm I'm not trying to be biased, but I think we we just had the most energy out there. Oh no, by far.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:56

Yeah, I think and I sound like a super nerd fan, but I felt like you could feel that you guys were having fun with the new look and the new characters, and and as a guest, you can feel when people are having fun and when they're just kind of doing it.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:10

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:11

No, I'm not gonna lie, Ghost has been falling flat in the couple of years ago. It's just in a transition video.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:16

It's on a transition video. It's in a transition, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:18

And there's there's a lot of there's a lot of reasons for that. And I'm I mean, I've said my part over it because you know it's it's just a a newer generation that took over during the time, and it's you know, it's not as um it's not as efficient as it was before. And and I wish and in, you know, there that's okay. That's okay because there's a course correct on that. You can course correct on that and then get get to get back to what what it was. I'm hoping that it does. I'm not saying that it never it shouldn't at all because of the new generation. I I hope the gener new our new talents awesome.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:53

New talents do our new talents, beautiful. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:56

And um I just don't figure it out, they just highlight different strengths, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:02

Yeah, you gotta you gotta get all you gotta get all the pros and cons and and lines.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:07

Because their strength is that character work, right? And sliding, right? They focus a lot more on that than you know, where I think previous generations used it as a tool, the newer generation leans on it a little more heavily.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:18

Yeah, yeah. It's a it's a lot different. Well, I'm hoping for the best, though.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:22

Yeah, I mean it's a cool talent.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:24

It's cool talent. Great talent. I I definitely respect we have some definitely talent in there that are gonna be real powerhouses like coming this year. I know it. You don't know, Adam.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:35

Maybe, maybe I'll come back. Maybe I will. Maybe I won't.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:43

That would be fun. What a year. Yeah, I haven't been covered in drool nacho cheese or anything for quite some time.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:49

I haven't had I haven't been broke her, I haven't given her a dent in such a long time. Oh, it's how's your dent, by the way? That's right. How's your dent?

SPEAKER_03 2:12:57

It's her dented hand from 2016.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:00

Can I say that still there?

SPEAKER_06 2:13:01

It's still there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:02

Can I say that on the wedding speech?

SPEAKER_06 2:13:04

Yeah, you want to add the dent? We'll have you talk on our rehearsal dinner.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:07

Okay, cool. Yeah, because I I have to well, if if I I will show you the speech.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:13

No, I don't want to see it. I don't want to preview. I want to hear it with my heart.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:15

You want to hear it? Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:16

I have to I don't want to hear previews of anything. I even told why I we don't want to hear anything. We trust you. Okay. But just go.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:23

I just I I know it feels like it's if what the way I wrote it, it feels like it's long, but like I'm the way I I'm trying to I I put in my I was like I actually performed it by myself in my room. And I I performed it. I was like, okay, it doesn't seem that long. I think it's just like it looks long. It looks long, but I'm like the way uh because I feel like I'm adding I'm gonna add something or say something else, and I'm gonna say something similar to like this paragraph, and then the you know, switch up the I had to move the paragraph to like here on the top and move the paragraph on the bottom. It was just a lot of things I had to like well people.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:58

I mean, people don't realize you've been a piece of our story for a long time, right? 2020 before we were dating.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:02

I mean, you came with us to a lot of things, we did a lot of things as a little group of three you guys seen me like all through ups and downs, like crazy times.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:12

Yeah and you guys seen it all that yeah, and we were around for a lot of that like pre-dating, like remember when he ordered the cookie and oh god can I get a cookie?

SPEAKER_04 2:14:25

The way you said it, and I think the way the way your face was doing it, it looked so like doofus at the same time because you're because we were in the dark and and like there was this like there was this like parking lot light that shined right in your face and your like head just came out of nowhere, you're like, Can I get a cookie?

SPEAKER_06 2:14:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:47

And I I laughed so far. Oh man.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:50

Or do you remember when I came here to either I brought you, I don't know, maybe I was picking you up and we had Adam on speakerphone, he was yelling at us about the stomach flu.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:59

Oh, is it Jesus Christ?

SPEAKER_06 2:15:06

Like you have been around for a long time where we were hanging out and trying to, I think, you know, figure out what we were doing because we obviously enjoyed hanging out. You were there for a lot of those hangouts.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:18

Yes, yeah. I was trying to understand. I was like, what are you guys gonna do?

SPEAKER_06 2:15:22

Yeah, we didn't know yet.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:23

I was like, like, what are you guys gonna do? What's the next step?

SPEAKER_06 2:15:25

We weren't sure.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:26

Yeah, but like you guys, I I seen it's crazy how I believed that you guys were I knew something was gonna happen, and yeah, I I believed it the whole time and without no doubt. And yeah, I heard some doubts from other people, but like that didn't even come through my head at all. Right. I thought it was just all the for funny jokes and all that. So I'm excited. I'm too. I can't wait.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:50

I'm gonna change my last name, it's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:54

Angela Johan? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:56

Yeah, or is it gonna be well? I thought it was gonna be Angela Merrick or something.

SPEAKER_06 2:16:00

Yeah. That would be really capture all elements. No, I'm gonna, you know, because that's something that people ask actually a lot when you're getting married. Like, are you gonna change your last name and or are you gonna hyphenate? And I'm like, no, I'm taking it. I'm I'm fully I have a brother he can carry on the boy name. That's his job.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:19

It takes a lot from like your take out your name that you've been since you were born. Yeah, and then you're gonna be able to do that. That's what my sister did. My sister, my my sister, uh, my biological sister Alex, she um changed her name to Lucia Pinya. Um besides Lucia Sagasta, and she's been Lucia Sagasta for a long time, but it was like such a like a whole like value name, like valuable name to keep on because like that was my that's my my Dia's name, my my my uh my grandma's name is Lucia, and uh we kept I mean she kept the first name obviously, but like for a long time, but like she Yeah immediately changed, but it was always like Sagasto, like Sagasto was the big thing, and now we we changed it. We're like, oh shit, dude.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:01

Like everything It was definitely something I thought about having lost my dad. Like, did I want to keep the name? Did I wanna kinda did I want to make Boyd my middle name? Because I don't really care about my middle name, but ultimately we're pretty traditional, and yeah, like I said, I have a brother that can carry on Boyd and I got a tattoo of the lit name, it's a good idea. It's like which one do you want? But I didn't tell you what our so we do have a signature drink, right? And I reached out to my friends. I was like, everyone's telling me I need a hashtag. I'm not funny, help me think of one. I need a name for this drink that we're gonna have at the bar, um, which by the way, we just bought a boysenberry, uh, a boysenberry punch fountain for our wedding. We just paid like 400 bucks. Yes, boysenberry punch fountain. But anyway, the name of our drink is the no more boysenberry. And I had to give all credit to my Tyler. Yeah, he thought of it. He killed it. I was laughing. Everybody thinks it's hilarious. I love it. We haven't we haven't unrolled it yet.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:06

There should be one called like the dentant hand cocktail or something like that. The dented hand cocktail.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:11

Dented hand cocktail.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:13

It's pretty damn good, not gonna lie. Yeah, there's like a glass, it's like a glass, but like it's dented. Yeah. Like a little cricket glass. That would be fun. I don't know. No more boys and berries. No more boysenberry punch. That'd be great. Yeah. I have to bring my own freaking non call non-alcoholic beers. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:30

I think we'll have some because we're doing an open bar. I think they have we'll ask them. I'm waiting for them to get back to you.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:35

I went to the freaking banquet. Is it by the is the a bar owned? It's by the hotel, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because the I went to the uh banquet and they didn't have freaking non-alcoholic beers. Really? Oh no. Oh. I had to bring my own.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:47

And they won't let us bring in anything.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:49

And they've turned down a lot of my really cool ideas, but no, we cannot bring Bacardi 150.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:56

They were like, no, you cannot come in on an elephant. I didn't love the idea, but no. No, I mean I I just found like biodegradable confetti to throw, and they were like, no, we don't want to get the tile wet.

SPEAKER_01 2:19:10

And I'm like, well what? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:13

And then I wanted confetti guns for when we come in. I wanted everyone to shoot off confetti. I thought that would be fun. No, you can't do that. Uh what else did what else did she say no to? Um There was a couple things, and I'm like, lighting or like little lights in the trees. Yeah, you can't do that. So she's really shot down. But we compromised. We bought ten giant bubble guns.

SPEAKER_01 2:19:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:36

We're gonna have millions of, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:19:38

No balloons? No, no balloons.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:41

We're not gonna have yellow balloons.

SPEAKER_01 2:19:43

No.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:45

That'd be great, though.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:46

The city of Buena Park will be covered in millions of bubbles.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:50

Yeah, and then everyone had to be evacuated.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:52

And then after after us, bubbles will not be allowed, but we're gonna make sure we get as many as we can in there. Yes. Oh, yeah, we couldn't throw rice. I mean, that's like a thing that you do walking down the it's like a good level.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:05

It's a culture thing? Is that a culture thing?

SPEAKER_06 2:20:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:08

What is I have no idea where it is. So is that that's gotta be a culture thing, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:20:12

I I don't Good question.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:14

I wouldn't, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:16

Chat GBT, that I wouldn't know what culture, but it's a pretty traditional wedding.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:21

Yeah, throwing rice. I that's been going on for hundreds of years. I don't know why. I don't know where it comes from though.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:27

Why do they throw rice at weddings? Um throwing rice at weddings is an ancient shut up. It's a some it's an ancient symbolic ritual meant to shower the newlyweds with prosperity, good fortune, and for oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:41

So it has well not if you get married in Boyne.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:43

Knox doesn't like showering prosperity people.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:47

Yeah, that's a that's a hatred.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:49

They basically want our wet our marriage to fail. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:53

Yeah, I think uh yeah, it doesn't say anything like I thought it was a culture thing. Um, but I don't know. Maybe it's just me.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:01

Oh jeez, yeah. Well that's the other thing. Our boys are walking down the aisle together.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:05

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:06

We have a best man and a man of honor.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:09

That's cool. Yeah. Can you say who is your best man? Yeah. My brother. Oh, your brother. Yeah, okay. All right. I haven't met your brother. Yeah, no, yeah. We love Eric. Yeah. Does he scare me though? Oh no. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:22

He's he looks different in me. He doesn't look like me at all.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:25

I saw pictures of him.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:26

Yeah, I don't think they look alike at all.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:28

No, we're totally different.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:29

Yeah, I'm like, Eric is very mellow, though. You'll know. He's jaw. Yeah. And then I didn't do a maid of honor, I did a man of honor.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:35

Did you do you know who can you say who you're Yeah, it's uh James George. Who's James? He's gonna be so hurt by that. James George, he's my man of honor. Maid of honor. Man. Man of honor. Instead of maid of honor.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:52

And then I have his wife, my sister, and Matt's wife as my brother.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:56

Oh, yeah, Matt's wife, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:57

And then Matt um and my brother will walk me down the aisle.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:00

That's cute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:01

So I'm all done. This one's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:04

He's got work to do. I got two more to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's that's been a lot of fun at doing this. Um uh do what else can we talk about? Anything else?

SPEAKER_06 2:22:17

Uh I don't think the tanker exploded yet. I don't believe that was the tanker.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:21

Oh, okay. Yeah, there's been a gas leak over here.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:24

We're thinking about going to Disneyland and catching paint the night. Oh, yeah. In the fumes. In the fumes?

SPEAKER_04 2:22:28

Are you guys really going to paint the night right now? I kinda want to. Yeah. Oh shit. Why not? Why not? That'd be rough. It's 1045. Maybe that's it. It's 9.17 actually. We'll make it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:37

No, the if we have to get there by like 10 20.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:41

You guys will make it. Maybe. I've been I want to go to tomorrow, so we'll see. But anyway, um, I love you guys so much. I love you too. I'm so glad to be part of your wedding. Um, and hopefully um it goes well anyway. That'll be great. Uh that's it. All right, yeah. Um you guys want to throw your social media stuff. You guys are dumb. So we don't need that shit. Fuck that shit. Um all right, guys. Uh, thank you all for listening. Thank you so much. Love you all. Be safe. Drink water, be kind to each other, hydrate, and be nice to each other.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:16

Yes, bye.