Squid #15 - Time Travel

In this episode DAS has a proposition: He would like to suggest that we experience time as a variable, not a constant. 

Interesting start, he continues:

That you think our experience of time changes depending on the context, when we're happy time flies, when we're not enjoying ourselves, time seems to drag. And there's lots of phrases about this, you talk about people describing themselves as being slaves to time where you're trapped by the amount of time you've got available to do the things you want to do, which often you don't want to do. But I'm going to suggest in this podcast that I think we can make time elastic, we can manipulate it, so it appears to slow down or speed up according to our requirements, so we can be the master of time rather than the slave of time.

And so, the two intrepid podcasters become Time Lords (cue Dr Who music).

Peter also discovers a character called ‘Julian of Norwich’, who turns out to be a lady who famously said ““And all shall be well. And all shall be well. And all manner of things shall be exceeding well.” Which DAS thinks is insightful, and Peter finds slightly repetitive (but in an inspiring way).

Peter prefers the insight of Pink Floyd:

• Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
• Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
• Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
• The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say

Transcript

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You always sound a bit perkier on the ones when it's your turn. I'm nervous when you do that, Peter? Well, I don't feel anything I feel. Let's just go for it. All right. Okay. That's what is the squid of the day. So Peter, today, I'd like to talk to you about time. Time. And the subtitle of this one is, is how to live a good business life and stay married. Now. That's not okay. This is gonna be just you presented? No, so let me let me position this for you. So I would like to suggest that we experience time as a variable, not a constant. Okay. That you think our experience of time changes depending on the context, you know, when we're happy time flies, when we're not enjoying ourselves, time seems to drag. And there's lots of phrases about this, you talk about people describe themselves as being slaves to time where you're trapped by the amount of time you've got available to do the things you want to do, which often you don't want to do. But I'm going to suggest this podcast that I think we can make time elastic, we can manipulate it, so it appears to slow down or speed up according to our requirements, so we can be the master of time rather than the slave of time. How about that? Okay, well, you heard it here, folks. The squares are spare host doesn't feature on our Time Lords. So what it's about how do you apply yourselves. So you spend more times on the things that give you pleasure, you know, sense of achievement, things that move you forward in your home life, your work life, and less time in the boring, uncomfortable inconsequential things, or maybe it's the same amount of time, but it feels like less time or it feels like more time. So that's what I'm gonna propose, I think, I think we can make time. I think we can accelerate time, I think we can elongate time. I think we can stop time. And, and all by using tools, tips and techniques, really about being bit more self aware and about planning. And I know you love a bit of planning. I'd like to do like a bit of planning, not too much, but a bit of planning. So let me let me kick this off in a direction that you would no doubt not expect me to go. Only because I heard this recently in OB GYN who just made obvious sense to me that the guy I was listening to on the radio was just talking about the perception of time, sort of what we touched on here. But this is perception of time in relation to age and the fact that when you are stealing stuff again, no, I'm just I'm just laughing that you went there first, but no, go and carry on getting out of the way. Because that was it that made that came to my mind. And if I don't get it, otherwise, I won't get to concentrate on other things that you actually want to talk about. So the position this guy put it was the fact that yeah, when you're five a year is a very long time on the grounds. Yeah, the 20 of your life. Yeah. Yeah. When you're of our age, it's not so much such a significant amount. And therefore the perception of time that we look back, I mean, we will look back and go Good grief, some holidays. You used to last forever. Yeah. And now Now, you know, it's like six months to Christmas. And when did that happen? And stuff like that. So, okay, I've got that other way. I feel better now is our system we can move on. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's about it's about the perception of time, but I think you can control your perception of time. So I mean, he goes so how do you explain then time you had to extend those pleasurable moments, actually don't answer that question. Oh, is there a better way of saying this? So how do you maintain that positive emotional connection to time you know that this time is now special is to be savored, it's a moment of joy or laughter or sense of achievement. I actually I think that's what mindfulness is about, isn't it? It's about living in the moment and appreciating you know, that, that drink of cold water on a on a hot day. Have you ever had a near death experience? But I can talk about this because of my car crash? But have you ever had a near death experience? Or a profound shock? No, when I was younger, actually, I wasn't, you know, I was a bit of an idiot. I had a bicycle then as a sort of a young teenager. And I was cycling back, saying I was live I live where I live kind of live. Now I've returned to these areas, I was cycling back from San Dimas, across over to Jaeger, which is not far down some of the country lane type roads. And with no lights, course, and a car again, the car was speeding, I was at fault with no lights. And it felt very, very close. So that's as close as I got to a near death experience. Think really, where I was going with that was how you felt afterwards, like, you know, how bright was the sky afterwards, you know, big breath of air. So we're looking at from the ditch where you probably dumped your bike, bet the air smells. I bet you sort of fell in love with whoever you were at the time all over again, there's something about appreciating life, when you suddenly had the prospect of being deprived from it, I just suddenly thought I need to get a car. with me on this, you know what I mean? You do you know you there's there's quite a bit of literature about this as well how people have an enhanced sense of well being when the immediacy of a really, really terrible threat has passed. And, you know, I like to delve into a bit of cold psychology and philosophy sometimes. So Heidegger German philosopher, suggested that our actions in life are dictated, perhaps unconsciously by the fact that we know that one day we will die by he, you know, there's a positive way of looking at our time in this world, which is to say, actually, it's finite, and therefore make the most of it. He had a great quote, I'm gonna read this out, because I wrote it down. He said, If I take death into my life, acknowledge it and face it squarely. I free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life. And I'm free to become myself. So I think that's like when we, you know, people joke about living each moment, like it's your last dance like no one is watching save a life thing. It's all the same thing. And I get it, my so my proposition here is, during those moments, you elongate time you choose to linger. In that moment, you dwell in the garden, I think this is what mindfulness is all about, you stop and savor. So I'd like to offer that as a bit of time traveling advice, when you're in a moment that's pleasurable or significant. You savor it, you stop, and you take note of what's going on around you. Would you buy that? I would buy that. But equally, the challenge is sometimes when you're in the moment, you're not thinking logically like that in the same way. Absolutely. Absolutely. But you're you're fighting it says you are being distracted by life spiritedness, right? Well, yeah, you're having a good time you're at a concert, you're deep into a book or something, you're, you're watching an amazing film, you're, you know, in a wonderful conversation, you're enjoying a vacation holiday, or whatever, you're in the moment. So it's kind of hard, I think, to take or consciously step back. And in absolute rubbish, they actually absolutely pretend to go back afterwards. I think maybe that's what we do when we kind of, you know, I think so went back and all but I'm just suggesting this is just a technique here, there's a mental sort of self awareness sort of moment, that when you when, when you recognize you're in that state, whether you're, you know, when you're at work, or whether you're at home, or whether you're doing your favorite thing, and just stop and enjoy. And I think that's time travel, actually, I think you can elongate time, because things are the opposite. You know, I talked earlier about being a slave to time, you know, and that, you know, and I'm sure a lot of our listeners could, would relate to this that can be exhausting. You know, if your calendar commitments don't excite you, or don't intrigue you, or your personal calendar is just full. I mean, ultimately, that sort of I mean, that's where burnout comes from, isn't it you get it's very, it's very poor for your long term health. And I think that leads to chronic stress and that relentless pressure leads to all sorts of bad behaviors like addiction, escape it behaviors and things like that. Smoking, drinking, binge watching, partying, you know, all those sorts of techniques that people tend towards when they're a slave to time, and, and then affects your moods isn't your ability to concentrate, you become distracted, you're not connected with your loved ones, you find it impossible to focus on your work. And you don't check in enough with people around you. And so I think that's the flip side of, of holding on to time, I think those moments when you are a slave to time is okay, how do you how do you get out of that? How'd you get out of that mindset is, is perhaps where we should go next for you, because certainly go along with it, you know, in some ways, you can manage time and, and this has taken me into a reflection on you know, the pandemic, not be able to go anywhere. And, you know, we you and I are involved in some of them. But you know, we kind of have some fun things to do. But what I don't remember is being particularly bored during that period of time, because suddenly, you know, significantly work was massively reduced. And we, you suddenly had a whole amount of extra time. And I think we all want, not everybody, obviously, but I think certainly I would reflect that. I didn't have a problem filling that time with some some fun stuff, some creative stuff. So kind of, you know, I think that is a slant on if you'd like managing the time that was suddenly available. Yeah, yeah. So were you one of those people that enjoyed lockdown. Peter, I did you chose lockdown for a great deal? Yes. Yeah. Well, fun things. And if anybody wants to send me large amounts of money, I can show you the videos that dad made. But you know that that speaks to your creativity and your ingenious sort of nature and your actually your boredom threshold, I think those three things came together. This is this is what's gonna tell you a story that because this is what's interesting for you, right? I have a very low boredom threshold. I personally think I get bored very quickly, as you've seen in some of your meetings that you've run, and I start fidgeting after 20 minutes. So it's not you. It's just you and everyone else, period. I think it could be. But But yeah. So yeah. So it's a way of managing stuff. So, you know, on a recent fairly recent holiday, we produce tea, our flight was actually canceled, on the way back from Croatia. And you, if you ever had to that you have to go through this whole process of waiting information, then you have to wait for a coach then getting into a hotel for the night. And so anyway, it was fascinating because because because Mrs. T, she was posted, she's she's, you know, boredom threshold is much higher than mine. And she doesn't react the way I do. But actually, as soon as there was this, like devastating news, I was fine. I was quite happy because I knew what's going to happen. And I just went with it. And as she became more and more stressed as time went on. In the end, actually, we had all function we made a game about, we were going to be the first people into the hotel checked in and at the bar before the last person checked in and we succeeded. So we made some fun of it and took out a few other passages as a result. But again, it's an interesting, I think, way of the mind working, which is you're right, in a way, if a plane is delayed for 30 minutes, I get bored. And you know that because you stood next to me about the French talk and stuff very irritating that way. I now know what the French tequila, so I'm pretty busy to actually go to a French talk now. So he said, How do you know that you said desktop? She just looked at your mind. The point about this, I think is your mind can manage time. Absolutely. Thank you. And actually that category of how do you lose time I wanted to talk about and you are good at it because you have that low boredom threshold and you're creative. But I think this is Tips and Tricks time people. I mean, this is about little, these are some of the things I do. He just said something people do. So we're talking about now situations where we need to pass time or quickly. You know, there might be boring meetings, there might be you know, something painful, like the dentist chair, social situations, we don't want to be at, you know, disturbing situations, I think there are techniques. And so I've, I've sort of made a little bit of list because I know you'd like a list. So I've got I've got four, I've got four suggestions. Hey, do that. I think you've just come up with one which is a subset of one of mine, which is, you know, you made a game out of it, didn't you? You made a game out of that, that that opportunity that time gave you which actually, you did during whole Lockdown. Lockdown was a game for you, isn't it Peter? And I would say that's the optimistic approach. I that's what I call it. It's the optimistic approach make a virtue out of necessity. And actually, for me the way I do this, in the context of your situation, it's about being curious. What I do is I seek out people's passions, find out what people are interested in. And it takes some digging sometimes, but it's always surprising and it's always rewarding. And so that's my top tip. So yours is Be creative. And mine is Be curious. So take an optimistic approach, when you're trying to pass some time is one. Can you think of another one? Oh, gosh, oh, obviously you put me on the spot. Now, that's not fair because these are a bit esoteric. I think there's a, there's a, you know, we have, we have a few people in our organizations that actually I'm very interested in stoicism as a, as a as an approach. And I think there's one of the American presidents, not sure which one Abraham Lincoln I'm going to guess at to have the quote, all things will pass. That was his thing. And it was sort of epitomizes that sort of stoic Maxim, you know, bear and forbear acknowledge the pain, move forwards, do what you can and do what you asked, make the best of it. And I think that if you're going through help, just keep going, yeah, just keep going. But just, you know, acknowledge there, recognize can't do anything about it. Let's get it over with and so there's this kind of acceptance, isn't it? Yeah, it's a stoical response to a situation you can't change but whereas you wanted to make a virtue out of it, Mrs. T was getting agitated about it. The middle ground is not enjoying this, but I'm not going to fret about it, because it's going to happen. I'm just going to experience it and move on. So I think there's a stoical response. There's a mystical response. You're like this one. Actually, you know, you could describe this as a religious response. And there's, there's a quote from a mystic called Julian of Norwich, who I'm sure you've read, sorry. Julian, Northridge. Yeah, a mystical Julian of Norwich afterwards, and they said, and it's a very well, it's off is oft quoted this all shall be well, and all manner of things should be well, that's the quote. And it's, it's like, people have quotes like that today. Like, it's never as bad as you think it's never as good as you think. There's poetry, who was that Rajon Kipling, in his famous poem talks about treat, I can't remember the quote now, but treat the imposters of success and failure, the same and then you'll be a man, my son. So you basically don't ignore the misfortune, but pointing an opportunity to sort of find peace and joy actually, in the eye of the storm. Come to trust, trust that actually, you'll get through it. And actually, you might transcend it, you might find peace, in that chaos and actually prosper from it, and find pleasure in trusting it. So it's in a spiritual sense. It's about having trust, it's about having trust that things will work out. And in a non spiritual way. It's about just recognizing that good shit happens sometimes. So there's a mystical approach. Okay, do you like that one? I do like that one. I'm definitely hooked on Julian of Norwich. Yeah, look it up. It's good. No, well, thank you. And the last one, I actually I thought you're gonna get this one. This will make you laugh. And you're gonna say I'm being pretentious here. But my fourth tip when you're trying to lose time, is to lose yourself in your mind palace, which which I think you do frequently. Yeah, I do. I do. The usual sign apparently is I hum. I hum. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Which sometimes can be embarrassing in public, especially, especially presentations and meetings. Yeah, yeah. But you know what I mean, by that, don't do that. Actually. You can. I mean, people would call it daydreaming, perhaps. But you can consciously go into your head, and explore whatever you want to explore the minds is an extraordinary thing. And you know, if you can become adept at actually losing yourself in your thoughts go into your happy place. Well, it doesn't always have to be your happy place. I mean, actually meditations. A little like this, although, perhaps that's a little bit disconnected. I'm thinking about a bit more of an active sort of generated I'm no good organization. I get bored. But I remember Do you remember the hostage crisis? Oh, probably 20 years ago now, where the Archbishop of Canterbury is envoy, Terry Waite was dangerous radiator for two years. He wrote a fabulous book and Brian Makina did as well write a fabulous book about it. And they had nothing to do all day. I mean, why how they didn't go mad is is McCarthy's while John McCarthy was so so proud, wasn't it? How they didn't go mad, I don't know. But they talked about in their books. They talked about losing themselves in their mind palace, you know, inventing mental games, because they're in solitary confinement for a lot of the time, and just going into a place where they would grow a garden, you know, they would build a house, but mentally and so yeah, I yeah, I think, yeah, I do. I definitely get that. Well, I mean, so I go through the stages of, I get, I get bored, I get frustrated, even if there's nothing I can actually do about it. But eventually, you emerge on the other side, and yeah, I kind of do that. It's a it's a bit like the bit like, not much a bit. You know, we live with anyone for ages. I don't know if you have But you know, we ever those major traffic jams? Yeah. That every every sits in their car or somebody's going to room then he goes stressed etc. But eventually it kind of blossoms into some social activity because people start getting out and talking to each other. Yeah. I mean, as a Brit, I think we we've got we're blackbelt cures and look at how we've made a national sport out of QE. I mean, it's great fun if you choose to look at it that way. So I mean, this is I think this is good, Peter, I think you're with me so far. And we we've talked about, we've talked about how time perhaps is elastic the way you experienced it, we talked about how you elongate time, talked about how you can lose time, want to talk now about how do you make time to how do you create time? Or how do you make the illusion of creating time in our busy lives? And actually, I've got a long list of these. Can I just do another one? Yeah, it's, it's kind of like escaping time. This is where I categorize this one. Yeah, it's a technique I use when I'm writing. And because it's, I don't, I don't have writer's block or anything like that. Because you know, because I churn books out by the dozen, but I have to get in the mindset to write. And one of the ways I do that, if I'm struggling in any way is I just slap Metallica on because I've heard it 1000 times. It's it's great music, but it's also mindless music and you can lose it. And it's like a suddenly stop worrying about the clock or start worrying about how many words I'm doing or how I got to do it. It kind of switches everything off. For me, it kind of opens up the creative blood. So I you know, that's the kind of technique I use, which is really around the sort of escaping time or just aging with time at the moment. Yeah, there we go. Now the category and in fact, creative triggers was on my list to do. Because Did I talk to you about the book? I never wrote Peter, but the creative plug in it. And yes, publishers were still interested to get your watch your works in public published doesn't actually stop it was a proper publisher. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I want to talk just quickly about and these are tips and techniques. So these are very prosaic, right, they're very, and you'll think, actually, that's rubbish, but actually has a lot of them. And so I'd like to go through my list, okay, for making time, right? So you don't have enough time in your life, in your work life, your home life to do what you want to do. Here are 12 things 15 Things you can contemplate doing to make time. Number one, get up early. I mean, it sounds obvious, isn't it? But yeah, you know, you create time, you know, sleep, sleep, a lot of people is overrated, I suspect, number two, get a good night's sleep. And so that that's to do with be more efficient with the time that you have, you know, when you're tired, you're less effective. You know, actually, a lot of this speaks to many of your books better in terms of being productive, you know, reduce multitasking, you complete the task, you're given a mood reduce, you rework, your budget and track time, it was called Time management now, but you can't actually, if you're trying to manage your time more effectively, you actually got to, you've got to measure your time more effectively. So that's something that's a discipline that people often have at work they don't have in their social lives. But it's something that is a true truism, isn't it? If you want to maximize your time, you actually need to take a planful approach to it, get it get organized. This is one of your hotspots, isn't it? You know, know where things are and know how they were used tools use productivity tools, and there's so many new productivity tools around now aren't there? There are indeed and another speaker, this is you told me this prioritize, prioritize, prioritize your think about your core objectives or in your home life, think about the things you really like doing? Do those first. Keep asking yourself the question. Do I need to do this now? Yeah, yeah, it is. I think it is that kind of double challenge, you know, does this need to be done? Do I need to do it? Do I want to do it? And then, you know, am I the right person to do it from from that? Yeah. Yeah. I keep going work hard on being less distracted. You know, that's a good one. That's a very tantalizing, shiny, interesting things out there, you know, just work hard on focusing on the things that you originally wanted to focus on. I certainly, you know, I certainly, you know, I have a minimal number of windows opened my laptop at any given time. Some people look at their screen and like, I really haven't got a breakdown. So I've got going on at any given time. And those, you know, they're wonderful alerts that come in, but you know, I don't respond necessarily too quickly. If I have a message company to talk to you about that. Yeah. Yeah, but it's about it's about unplugging, isn't it for everything else and concentrating on the things that routines I mean, I personally find this a good way established daily routine. A great quote from Woody Allen, you know, Woody Allen great filmmaker, made over 50 films his life said that 80% of his success was just showing up. That's in my book, probably one of my books. Yeah, I think that's where I got it from. From many books, you know, I've given you so many hooks here. Just had you as a project manager talking about time, I'm amazed you've not been to some of them anyway, let me keep going. I think I think a lack of routine makes you vulnerable to distractions. I think, you know, you're just, you know, it's the bright, shiny things that you think. And what about this one? Don't be too concerned with working too fast. You know, concentrate on what what I describe as working smoothly, you know, particularly true when you work in a team environment. This, you know, because you've got people working at different speeds, it's about working smoothly. Life, you know, I know, it's a hackneyed phrase, but life's a marathon, not a sprint, you need to finish well not finish first, you agree with that? It's more of a sprint. Alright. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and this is sort of a work thing, but I think he carries forward into a home thing. You know, keep looking at your schedules, your daily, your weekly, your monthly, your yearly check, you're aligning with your goals, don't clog your day with unnecessary tasks, prioritize, prioritize, prioritize, organize your time, I think sort of throw in there is. Your right, you gotta keep going to try and finish something. But I think one of the techniques I have is, I don't battle to finish, if I'm, if I'm struggling to finish something in some way, I'll walk away, I'll go and do something else. Even if it's gonna get a coffee, or go mow the lawn or something, it's, there's something about it just being in front of you that it creates a barrier to completion. And I often find going for a walk or whatever I'm, I can rewrite something or restructure something or re Reeve rebuild a presentation in my mind. So when I come back, the solution is ready for me. Yeah, and I think, you know, these, these various techniques and tips we're talking about here, they're very personal, you know, we're all different, we all respond differently to different triggers, we have different things that help us with this sort of work. And I think I would say, you know, it's very helpful if you can be a bit self aware, and look, look at your own attitude to this thing. And be honest with yourself, you know, if you constantly say to yourself, I don't have time to read, I don't have time to do that background work, you know, attend to that. Because you know, you've got 24 hours in the day, that you decide how you spend the majority of your time. And so it's very easy. Here, before I ran my first marathon, I had a running friend who kept inviting me to run a marathon. You remember, Steve, and you'll see them and he kept inviting me to run a marathon with him. And I kept saying, I kept finding excuses not to do it. And it's like, you know, that gym membership thing where you, you know, you need to go to the gym, you keep finding reasons why you can't go to the gym, and he wore me down. And in the end, I realized that, you know, I could keep coming up with reasons why I wasn't gonna run a marathon with him. But he was going to not stop asking me. And in the end, I just ran out of energy. And it was easier to run a marathon, it was to think of excuses, why shouldn't run a marathon? So yeah, be honest with yourselves and decide how you want to spend your time, I would say. And then the last one I got is learn to say no. And this is, this has to do with just finding a bit of peace in your life, you know, find time for yourself. You know, I think everyone works hard. They've got busy lives, you got busy schedules, they got dependencies, they got things that they need to do, which might not be pleasant. You know, I think relaxing your spare time should be a top priority. I agree. I mean, yeah, you got to have the right to say no, but that does not apply to you right in the chapter for my new book. Yeah, well, my other so aphorism Here is someone said this to me. And I didn't, I didn't relate to it for a long time. But I actually I think this is very, very true. Now. You can't make other people responsible for your own happiness. It's very easy, I think to be resentful of things that happen to you that cause you not to be able to things you want to do in terms of time or some things but actually, we have control over our time and our lives and you just got to at some point step up and say okay, I don't have to do this. There might be consequences of that but yeah, that in your it's in your it's absolutely in your bailiwick to decide, but prioritize yourself and your own well being. I would say Peter with my final one here. Okay, you know, our listener. Yeah, that's a that's an excellent list. I think. We're not going to add I'm gonna go back to honesty. I've worked with a few people. In fact, one of our good one of my good friends at once and but and they were always time challenged about three or four people in total I've worked with, and they're always time challenged, and a lot of it came from or the breakthrough if you like, came from them being absolutely honest on what they spent their time on. Yeah. And it's, uh, you know, in one case, I even created a little Excel spreadsheet and unfortunately, I think journals right now And it was it was an eye opener. I'm not saying it necessarily helped them because they, you know, they, they had that approach to life that is very different than my own. But at least they understood where they were spending their time, where it was what Where is disappearing? I think that phrase was not used in one case of long time just disappears. No, it doesn't. Time is being used by you somehow. Yeah. Budget and practice time. Number four, you need to understand where you're investing your time. That's right. That's right. And then you've got responsibility, if you're on time now, I think. And it was funny, as I sort of noodling on this and just so being intrigued by the different versions of time that I was sort of coming up with here, I see thought of a few categories where a shortage of time, a lack of time is actually quite helpful. Yeah, some Put another way, some sort of scenarios benefit from not having the opportunity to take longer to decide. So John, I do want to think of an example of that. I've got a I've got a couple here. Give me first one. Well, especially now well, perhaps in our earlier lives, where, you know, we're information rich, but sometimes that information is not very clear. And so you know, if you're a data driven sort of decision making sort of situation, whether that's work or personal. The information is not clear. And so sometimes just making an asset decision is what's needed to break that logjam move forward. And then you course correct. Yep. Yep. So it's about actually, not sure. But actually, it's, it's worse waiting than it is actually making the decision moving forward. And then if the decision was wrong, change it. Yeah. That's a good one. I support that. Now, the one close to home, not me, but I live with perhaps deadlines. I think deadlines are very useful for some people. So there's a shortage of time. There's a hard stop like that chapter. I've got to write for you. Useful for procrastinators, and perfectionists. I don't count myself as either of those. But I am in a position where I have a deadline. overthink is maybe and maybe artists, I don't know. You know, a deadline breaks through this indecision. And you get it done. Because because you have to. So I think deadlines can be quite useful tools. Sometimes people use them donate to got to do it. So wait, you know, it's not enough hours in the day, you've got to do it that now. Yeah, I mean, number of hours a day. I mean, it's, yeah, it's an interesting one. It's a conversation that I've had with Mrs. T a few times. And I get out wait for her. And, you know, as I pointed out, you know, my, my working life is my waking life is like 10 to 15 hours more than that as during the week. So, you know, I'm already onto a winner, as far as I'm concerned in getting things done. Doesn't quite see it that way. Who thinks that not getting up is a good thing? Does Mrs. D listen to these podcasts? Greta? Oh, I think she gave up after episode three. Okay, I was gonna say she didn't have enough time, you were invited to listen to this to see whether it's a few tips and techniques. I can't believe I just said that, please don't get that isn't going to happen. You know, it's given me the freedom to say why I feel this. Because it's therapeutic for me. And perhaps one last one in terms of when when there's a shortage of time helpful. I think it's when doing nothing makes the situation worse. You know, when you're in a deteriorating situation, you just gotta do something, because it's not gonna get better. You don't know what to do, but just do something and then move on. So we've talked about times of significant crisis, this doing something like that. And again, long is important. Well, I think, for up to that's a distraction technique. But I mean, if you're thirsty, I'd go with that. And, by the way, did I tell you that I had a bit of feedback from a listener last? Yeah, who described I didn't always podcasts, he would describe one of the sweetest inspirational. That's probably why some big topics, probably was, Oh, that was nice. wasn't actually. Yeah, yeah. That's lovely. Thank you. Thank you. This was my biggest meeting. You've plural now going? We can? Yeah, no, we can. So I think that, I mean, I will just wanted to posit the theory that time can be perceived elastically. And actually, we have a lot more control over the way we perceive it than perhaps you might think. And there are ways to speed it up the ways to slow it down the ways to make good use of it. And sometimes it's good thing to have a shortage of time. So I hope that's been interesting, Peter, it is often difficult right now to see how much time we got left. And I plan my life accordingly. That was so popular for parents. I don't remember that now. You know, okay, you put in a lot of rubbish. You put in certain facts about you and it would it would give you a date that you're going to go out and meet the Grim Reaper. Oh, and When's yours? I don't know. I don't know. It's so long ago since I looked at it. It's not a real thing, folks. It's just a made up thing, even in the world of artificial intelligence, which we will get around to eventually. It's not a real thing. Well on that bombshell, yes. Yeah. That is good. Excellent. Thank you. This is where I say nice things about your topic. It was a very interesting, but again, you surprised me, again, are scrambling for subsequent beginning blog ads. And yeah, I think we I think we can go yeah, now I am. intrigued me because I think you know, we were sort of morphing towards the sort of esoteric labels like time that will change on the next episode. I'm going to show Oh, well, it okay. Yeah. We're heading down a different route. These are the two voices now. This goodness. Anyway, that's Thank you very much. It was it's been wonderful. Thanks, Peter. Look forward to next time. All right, like bye bye.