Just Start Doing Things with Pink Poster Club

Emily and Savanna of Pink Poster Club join Mary for a conversation about community, activism, and finding meaningful ways to connect in an increasingly online world. They share their journey from community organizing to political engagement, discussing the power of social media, the challenges of misinformation, and the importance of understanding the issues shaping our future, from politics to climate change, and remind us that strong communities don't happen by accident: they're built by people who show up.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:30

All right, everybody. Thank you for tuning in today. We gotta, we this is actually like my first, I think this is the first time I've ever had like two people on the pod who only had one person. It's your first threesome. So first threesome, we're a thruffle. Uh I don't know if you realize that was actually the point of me trying to get you on this podcast was to try to put the threesome. I love it. Is it gonna happen? Is it gonna happen? I will tell. Uh so I've got exactly I have uh the illustrious ladies that started the Pink Poster Club uh here in Evanston. I've got Savannah Fox and Emily Miller. Hi. Hello. Hi. Uh and thanks so much for coming on. So uh I have I've known these ladies for uh a little bit. They're kind of the the gals about town in terms of the political action that's happening up here in on the North Shore. Um, but why don't you guys tell us a little bit about Pink Poster Club, how you guys met, and how we even got to this point right here. Emily, Emily, you go. Tell you how we met.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Um our oldest daughters were going to the same preschool, Covenant Preschool, it's lovely, on Golf Road. Um, and there was a parent coffee play date, and Savannah and I both went and we were both wearing proper pants, like stylish pants, and we saw each other from across the playground, and we were like looking at each other, like scoping each other out, and that was it.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

It was because you guys were both wearing the six like like right, like was everybody else pantsless? Was everybody porky pegging it? And you guys are the only ones who are that would be really funny though, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

No, just leggings, you know, leggings. A lot of leggings, which is fine. Just like I think you know, when you I like I do this, I like I you're immediately maybe attracted to somebody by like the way they look, you know. And so I mean, you know what I mean? It's the butt sniffing, yeah, you know, you know what I mean, but like you see something and you're like, oh, I feel like there's a similarity, there's a commonality, and then you have to talk to them and realize like whether that's true or not. And that obviously happened to be true, and we're like very good friends now, which is lovely. So you guys are all because of hard pants.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Are you political? I'm also political. Let's make it back. That came a little bit later, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Well, I was running like a letter writing group for the midterm, so it was 2022, and I was getting people in the community to write letters to get out the vote essentially in swing states, and that we met like in August, maybe, and I invited Savannah during the fall. And I think then it came about that we were both into it.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

And this is this is in 22. And so then what how did the pink poster club start?

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Post-election, you know, post uh second inauguration. And then, like, I think it was like a month in, right? Like February, we met and we had both been like super upset and sad. And then we met to specifically talk about what we could do. Um, we had been like texting about it around like what what like thinking of ideas, and we met one night to talk about some actions we could take. And it was not, we didn't know it was gonna be a pink poster club, we just met and wanted to do something. And then we talked about doing social media, using social media more publicly, and then also doing something in real life that people could grasp onto. And Emily had the idea of Elon Elon Musk's uh Tesla truck on fire, and we literally made it that night. Like we left, we were at double clutch hanging out. We went back to her house um and got on the laptop and made this like a website and a flyer, and we did it within like whatever, I don't know, two hours, you know? Yeah, a couple hours. And and then history was made. Um my husband was like, What are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_02 4:04

And I was like, I'm by. Can you give me your credit card so we can buy square space? And he's like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Ryan was like concerned. He was like, What do you guys think?

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Oh my god. I mean, but that's how the best things happen is like it's lightning in a bottle, and you just kind of get it together and realize that especially when you like have the idea and it's in and you know, the one of the good things about tech is it has made it easier for us to like actually make things happen a little too fast. The fact that every every man has a podcast is part of that that problem. Uh I say that I have a podcast. So basically it came together as a to make flyers and posters to put up around the area to kind of let people know they're not alone, or what was the what was the thrust of the organization?

SPEAKER_02 4:46

For me at the beginning, it wasn't letting people know they're not alone. It was more like forcing people to face what was happening. Like I think a lot of what we were feeling after the election and after the inauguration was people, and I felt this were despondent, didn't know what to do, um, kind of hiding, were not speaking up about what was happening because of the overwhelming barrage of what they were doing just coming at us all so fast. Felt like people were really walking around in a stupor. And when it came about that Elon Musk and his Doge team were stealing our social security numbers, stealing all our data, and then cutting aid and whatever they were doing. Remember, they were trying to get into the agencies, people were barricading the doors, all this shit was happening. And it felt like normal people are just kind of walking around. And I think for me, the posters were like trying to shake people awake, like force people to know what was happening and not be able to ignore it because if you're walking around and you see them, they're very visible and difficult to ignore. And um that was my kind of idea, that was our idea, I think, at the beginning. Now it is a lot about like peak community organizing, getting people involved and letting people know they're not alone. But at the beginning, I think it was more for awareness.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

I say I mean I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

I feel like after the election, a lot of people don't didn't want to realize how bad it actually was or was going to be. And the people that knew how bad it was and knew what was going on, that know a thing or two about policy or how things run, it's like, no, this is really bad. And I I mean a lot of people are just shoving their heads in the sand because it's like, well, I've got four more years of this, so I'm I better not get too emotional because you know, and they can't do that. They can't do that. And I think Americans in general, we have taken for granted the the gift we have of a democracy and that it actually is an experiment and that nothing like this had happened before and nothing like this has happened since. And like we have to keep working on it. It's not a set it and forget it on the democracy front.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Yeah, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Uh Emily, you you kind of started the the your the Instagram, the Emily Thinks Aloud uh Instagram. Um that is one of it's one of my favorite things I see every day on the internet was seeing what you're talking about today. Uh and it's and it's fun. She just kind of just oh are you just open up your phone and just riffing, or do you write those things out before you talk? I guess that's the secret, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:03

No, I will tell you. I know there's no secret. Most of them, the best ones, I literally just am thinking aloud. I'm like just in my kitchen after I doing the dishes and I'm thinking about shit that I want to talk about, and I just go on there and talk about it. Sometimes it's not the first take, a lot of times it is. The more scripted ones, I think you can tell. Um, I don't use a um a prompt or anything, but some if some topics are important to me and I'm basing them off books or articles or more well thought out things, I'll write them down and read it a few times and then just go for it. And it's never the same. Obviously, it's I'm not reading it and there's no teleprompter, but it's more scripted in that sense. But most of the ones are really just me kind of fucking around. But I do read a lot and I do pay attention. So my thoughts are informed based on other writings, podcasts, the news, um, things like that.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

When did when did you start doing those?

SPEAKER_02 7:55

The same time we started Pink Poster Club. Like Savannah and I talked about it a lot, the benefits and cons of having a public social media and being on social media so much. Um and after Pink Poster Club, we both started our public accounts, and that was it. So about like a a year and a few months ago, and it's tied to Pink Poster Club, but it's different. Uh I talk a lot about the same things we talk about on Pink Poster Club, but slightly different things, focused on a lot on motherhood um and the intersection of motherhood, culture, and politics and how it impacts being a woman, being a mom, having a family, uh more so I'd say.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

Yeah, and Savannah goes politics is the is Savannah's version, like also the Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

But not like it's not a real thing. It's I use it, but if you look at my actual like dashboard, it's literally just all Pink Poster Club. So like everything on mine is just echoing Pink Poster Club. Um, I think we both, when we both met that night, we were like, oh, we'll start public accounts. Emily was obviously extremely successful. Um, and I just I haven't like had the, I don't know, the energy to like keep it up or so I basically just echo whatever we're putting up on Pink Poster Club. I like repost it, and then every once in a while when I feel like I really want to say something, I'll like make a random video of myself speaking, but those are like pretty few and far between, like once every like rant three weeks or something. It's like the difficult you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

It's the difficult thing with social media because I like as like last year started and I kind of you know, I really kind of started seeing my relationship and my part in the machine that is, you know, the politics and the capitalism and you know, how how do we get to this point and how do we fix it, especially as a mom, it's like the things that your kid is now and my kid's 12, so he's he knows what's happening. Like it's hard. I can't I'm not hiding it from him. Like that would be such a hard age right now. Yeah. I mean, I feel like he he was in kindergarten when COVID started, and I just feel like he just keeps getting hit after hit of like, yeah, you know, just nothing is normal. And I don't even know what normal is, you know. Like I don't know what what I even want to have happen, you know, like I and I don't know how to it's not this, you know. It's not this.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

I was gonna say it was funny because I was just talking about this with my daughter. We went camping this weekend and we spoke we had like a nice conversation driving there, and Trump came up and I told her, I said, you know, there when I was growing up, I didn't even think about the president. And like if we thought about him, it was like a really nice thing. Like, here's our president. He's and this was a naive, you know, privileged way to grow up, but still that is, I think, lost on even on pretty much everyone. Like the fact that he is so in your face, he's so divisive, he's so cruel, he's doing all these things that impact literally everyone in the country. And it didn't, you used to be able to, you know, not think of the president as this looming thing in the country, as like just really like a public leader and a a way healthier way to engage with politics.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

But beyond that, I I like didn't know how the House and the state Senate, I didn't understand like how representatives worked. I didn't understand how a bill became a law, even though I saw the the cartoon when I was a kid. Schoolhouse rock. The schoolhouse rock and how a bill becomes a law. But it it feels like I've had to like now we have to think about things that we never had to consider before that we just sort of took for granted were kind of working and uh and worked well. And now we have to fight for everything over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah. I will say that I feel like there's like towing that line of I feel like people should we should have better knowledge of public policy and how it works and how it's built and how it's made. And I think that's like a a fault that happens, you know, like early on that I don't know why. It's just not something we talk about enough. Um, maybe this, maybe the generation that's coming out of like our our age will are I think our kids will have a better idea of a lot of that stuff. Like even my kids, and they're like very young, are starting to understand very basics around like how these things are made and and what it means to elect somebody. I will also say though, go just to talk about Pink Poster Club here is like one of the things we try to build in is like you don't need to be like super informed. You don't need to have an like a certain level of education because that doesn't even mean anything, right? Like you could have a lot of people have like master's degrees, undergraduate degrees, and they still don't know how this stuff is work works, right? And so I think a lot of it, what we're trying to do is is build like this I this feeling around building a community and creating this world that we believe in that is about like love and respect and um community and and that's not separate from politics. Those are the same. But I think if enough people get invested in their community, they show up more and they want, and then like kind of by osmosis, you start to learn like a little bit more about um policy and how it impacts the things that you like love in your daily life, right? Like I think for so long we were able to just like idly stand by and go about things because we weren't directly impacted by the policy that by whatever, you know, whatever policies are coming down. Um, and it's easy then to step away and just kind of continue your life. But I think now we're seeing the impact more directly. And I think it will wake people up and more and more people are like, oh, I want to actually know how this works because these things actually have an effect on my life and my children's life.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

The right wing from, you know, like from whatever, I feel like the like Newt Gingrich and all of those, you know, pieces of poop that were kind of laying the groundwork for where we're at right now. They've always, their whole thing was government needs to be small. Government's stupid. They're there it's a waste, they're stealing. And so it's like they've been trying to unravel and they've done a very good job of dismantling the entire safety net that we have. And Trump is like, I'm just gonna break everything at the end. Like he, he, you know, he's like, I'm invading Iran because nobody else would do it. It's like, well, the reason why they weren't gonna do it is because of the straight horn core moves, which now Iran never doesn't need to build a nuclear weapon. They they have they have brought us to our knees. Like, I wish he would say, I don't need to have a weapon, I just have this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

This war really proved to be um what everyone probably thought it would be, which is like an epic disaster. And Trump just made them look like a much stronger country than they did before. So he successfully did that. I don't know. Like, I mean, it's the same thing with China. I'm like listening today about like the visit to China. This guy is just an epic idiot. Um he was being trolled to his face the whole time. Yes, the whole time. It's truly amazing. Like I loved hearing that like he wasn't his visit wasn't even on like the front page of the newspaper because they were like, we don't even care. No, they don't care. Like, yeah, you don't even matter, you know? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

I watch so right now we're I'm re-watching the ex-files with my son. Uh and I I've never seen that. My God. It's first of all, it's a great show. It's a one-year-old great show. Is it scary? What's funny though is this the scary is like 1990s scary and it was network television. So like when you can tell that something someone's about to get killed and it goes like the camera kind of goes boop, boop, boop, boop, boo, and then you see like feed going off camera. It's like not, it's not as scary as you think it would be. But what's interesting is, you know, because it's a lot of people that have like, you know, mental, you know, abilities that aren't normal or whatever, a lot of the plot involves this person being from like a mental institution or some kind of like they're always in some state-run mental institution, so many. You know, and it's like, and they're and they're really clean, no one's like, no one's complaining about a lack of of resources. He's getting his medication, and like, you know, he'll he'll he'll have to do it. Yeah. It's like he'll have escaped the mental hospital and like, no, no, no, we gotta bring you in here for you need to stay here for another six months on the taxpayer's dime. And we just, you know, and it's like, I I it's more unbelievable from the resources that the government had and how competent the FDA, because they're FBI agents, and it's like, wow, the FBI seemed very competent back then and like not like they're bad. And it's like it, it really like it takes me out of the show a lot because I'm like that can't happen now. That can't happen now, and that can't happen now.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

They're not slinging like um what the whiskey bottles and stuff that are going around. Cash Patel has like random whiskey bottles that are like his bespoke whiskey, separate, but like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

That's all I think about now. Yeah, I know because it's hard. It's hard to see them as anything other than only think about his eyes. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

It reminds what you're saying about competency though. I like the pit. Have you watched The Pit? I know Savannah hasn't, but there there's all this online discourse about how why people like the pit so much is because the doctors in it are competent. Like America is just yearning for someone who knows how to do their job and can do it without you know, fucking it up and being totally idiotic. And then you watch the nurses and the doctors on the pit and you're just like, oh my god, like people who are doing their job, who are smart and intelligent and taking care of things without all the hullabaloo. It's very interesting. Um I think competency born, I think is what they refer to it as. Yeah, success.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

You know, and then is it because it's it's hard because especially right now with my son being the age that he is, your kids are little, right? They're like under 10. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Um a seven and a four-year-old.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Yeah, that's little little guys. And so it's I'm thinking a lot about the future, and I'm like, you know, college, etc. And it's like I I think to myself, like, what would he even go to school for at this point? Like, what do we what's what's still gonna be there? And I I keep coming back to plumber. You know, I keep coming back to electrician. That's a good one. That is a good one. Yeah, you know, I think it will be a lot of the trades.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Like, honestly, trades are smart. I don't know. I had this weird night. I was telling my husband about this the other day. Um, I woke up in the middle of the night at like three in the morning. I can't remember if I told you about this, Emily, but I was like, woke up like in a panic, just being like, what is the point of like doing like anything? Like, why am I like spending all this time making sure that like my kids are like good and thoughtful and kind people? I'm gonna get dark for a second. Um, when like the world's probably like ending because our we are not taking care of our climate. We don't care about our earth. I like really it was a I don't, I must have had some like terrible dream. I don't know where it came from, but I was like really spiraling. And then I don't have an end to the story. I have no segue in or out of it. I just am like, it makes me think about it. I just was really like, I don't know. I had this like moment because I think that sometimes people think that Emily and I are like, I don't know, like sure of everything or like always positive or always like, if we just meet, everything's gonna be fine. And I mostly do, honestly, I do feel like that is like the answer is to like meet and build community and be together. Um, but I did really have this moment where I was like in a in a full panic at three in the morning, just like, what is the point if we can't get our shit together and like take care of the one earth that we know we have? I don't know. It was a really like, and I'm still there. It's still sitting with me clearly. It's just like days ago. And I just keep yeah, I have nothing positive to say.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

I saw a meme from some woman who is a, she was like, I I I'm worried about the climate. And so I went to school for environmental biology. And while I was there, I found out that we actually do know how to solve the crime the climate crisis. We know exactly what to do, but we just can't get anybody to agree to do it. So she's like, then I went and I got a I went and got my master's in public policy because I figured that might be the way to solve it. And then I got in there and like, like, once again, like we all know exactly what to do to do it, but we just can't get anybody to do it. And meanwhile, China is putting down, you know, all green, you know, they're doing all their infrastructure and they're moving to wind and solar, and they've moved like everything to wind and solar. And meanwhile, we spent $8 billion on the war in terror, and you know, they have buses and bridges that go everywhere, and we've we've got airlines that are tanking because the gas is too high. And so to your end, to your question about the future, I mean, I I don't think I don't think we're we're capable of ruining the war. We can't like it's like it's egotistical to think that we're gonna be the ones who will like finally end it. I mean, in some ways, like it's kind of like when COVID happened and they stopped putting boats in the Hudson and dolphins came back, you know, like the second that we start changing things, it you know, nature wants to be good. It wants to work. Like karma is real, like there's always a cycle that ends, and we do this every 100 years. We're just doing it now with way too much technology.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Yeah, and I think the thing that's like the thing that is interesting, because even your thing, you're I think one of the issues where we're at with the climate problem, and not to like we can change this topic in a minute, but is that even when you were just talking about this, the people I always blame it on like people's inability to picture the future and to like picture that it feels too far away. So they can't tackle this issue now because it's like this obscure thing that you can't really, you're like, no, I'm looking around and everything seems okay, and I I can't picture this world. And so there's inaction because of that. But then I think about like even when you were just talking about talking, Mary, like I'm thinking about the ability for the Republicans to like envision this world of like racism and sexism and like building, literally building Project 2025 from like decades ago ago, like building this idea, working towards these goals. And I just think I'm like, wait, why are we? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's it's very interesting because I do think there's this inability to act because of this, it doesn't feel tangible. But then I'm like, can we just like get better at it? Can we like do a better job of envisioning this and working towards a goal where we're like, wait, we want to see these things and to put them out out there.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

I mean, I think people are doing it, but it's hard though when you've got you when you've got a really loud minority screaming all the time and it sounds right, you know, like we're all conditioned. Like we can all be conditioned to do anything. You know, we've all been conditioned to be okay with everything that's happened since COVID. I mean, you know, everything that we've, you know, the the convenience, the ordering food apps and never having to talk to another person if you don't want to. Like the they want to keep us all here on the app so that we don't come and because when we're away from when we see maybe other people we actually go, oh wait, you're not as bad as I thought you were. And the community part of it truly is just being in person together. I mean, yes, it's great that we have the on the internet for people to we're still on it. We're still addicted to it. We're still going to look at it. But having these, you know, these pink flashes that come in and like, you know, showing you it there's another option. Like you don't have to just have despair because life is long. Am I really going to spend the next 40 years just being miserable because they can't pass legislation that's going to give me maybe my right, maybe my right to my reproductive rights back. You know, like I don't want that. And I think about the, you know, like the tip, like there's always a tipping point when you look at like even in the history of the US, it's like, you know, Heather Heather Cox Richardson had this one post where it was like talking about how like five years before we started the American Revolution, um, we were in the war, the French and American or the French the French and Indian War. And England came to our side and they really helped us and we were like, yay, we love England. They're the coolest. Like they helped us out in this war. And then they started taxing us without representation. And then five years later we're separating from them. So it was like it didn't take long for us to like, you know, and then three years before the Civil War, you know, they had all these like they were getting northerners to be like, maybe we should go back to slavery. Maybe we should accept it for the whole country like three years before the Civil War and then you know three years later the war starts and four years later it's, you know, slavery is illegal. So there's you know there's a there we I think we are in the tipping point right now. Yeah. And I think there's enough young people that actually care about, I mean everybody cares about this, but I think young people like like k our kids and the next like they all have been steeped in this the whole time. They know how fucked the the the climate is. They know how fucked Trump is. And that's why they're so afraid of us voting, which is why they are trying to dismantle the voting and making it so we can't vote and making it seem like voting's for losers.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Isn't it insane? Like it's their car, it's so clear what they're doing. I think about this all the time like it's like you're literally you're so scared that you're cheating. Like like you if you think you're on the right side and you think you're really like people really support you, guess what? You don't fucking cheat. Like you don't put rules in place where the cards are stacked in your favor or whatever the sayings go. I don't know. But it just like I think about it all the time like they're it's so every time they make these like policy changes or gerrymander or whatever they're doing, it is so blunt and obvious and in your face that they have that they are terrified and they know they're losing. Like they know that they don't actually have favor because if they did they would be like we don't need to do anything because everyone loves us and we don't have to do anything because everyone will vote for us.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

And they're not doing that. I think the difficulty in like dealing with them is that with the Republicans is that for they've posited their whole project 2025 and the policies they're enacting now and this latest onslaught against the civil rights act they don't care about hypocrisy. They don't care about the rules they think that what the means justify the ends no matter what those means are like they are on a religious crusade. So when I see them and look at what they're doing it's so frustrating because I know they'll do whatever it takes. Like they will cheat, they will lie, they're so corrupt. And in their mind it's all okay. It's like an in-crowd versus out crowd. Like they're on the in crowd it's very small. And whatever the in crowd does is 100% acceptable whatever the out crowd does, even if it's the same or better, it's unacceptable. And that's very difficult to work within as like an opposition or as a community organizing group or even as swaying public opinion. It's very difficult to operate under a system where one crowd is always right and everyone else is always wrong. And one crowd can receive no criticism and the other crowd gets all the criticism. It's it's very like it's kind of an impossible situation as the opposition. And I think we don't do a good job of naming that. Like we really are we always try to couch everything in the structures that have been working in the past. Yeah. And the Republican Party has been hellbent on doing this for decades and the structures clearly they don't give a shit about and I think we need to do better at breaking out of those doing something different.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

It was all based on decorum we literally were like oh we have a great strong democracy but it was literally like now we see it was literally just based on norms. Yeah nor just like us we're going to do the right thing. Yes exactly and now you're like oh no like those things actually don't hold any real weight because you're just you're just going against them and no one's stopping you.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

It'd be one thing if what they were doing had strategy behind it and they were actually doing it in a way that could make it so it could last forever. But the way that they're implementing all of this it's going to get wiped out as quickly as it can because there's no roots to it. There's no there's no real thought behind I mean other than like Project 2025 obviously there are I mean there are roots in that way but their roots there were not within the party they were within like think tanks and RAN groups or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

And but the end goal is it just money is that really all it is like no I don't think I think for some of them yes I think for a lot of them yes I think for the corporations that are backing and like enabling this administration to continue yes. And then I think there's also like the like diehard like Russell vote I vote, however you say his last name, I think is like he thinks he's on a religious crusade crusade.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Yeah I think it's cheaper than money. I think it's really upholding white supremacy.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Like I think it's clear but I think a lot of that's for money right it's like it's like fear that somebody's taking things from you.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

You could get all the money without doing what they're doing. Like you could be so corrupt and get billions. I think it is ideological.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

But do you think they're actually religious or do you think they're using religion as an excuse to for the behavior? I think it's probably both a little bit I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

I mean some of them are clearly religious nuts some of the people they're listening to but they're not doing the religion they're not doing Jesus like if they were doing Jesus then they wouldn't a lot of the stuff wouldn't be happening. But I think that's always the question right like who is interpreting the Bible correctly and people interpret it to suit what they want to do and these people think they're doing Jesus very well. Like they are convinced that the their interpretation of this Bible is doing Jesus and Jesus wants the death penalty and Jesus you know whatever doesn't like women and hates abortion and hates poor people. Their Jesus is crazy but they think it's theirs like they think that's who he is.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

I mean it's a very innocent it's a very convenient yeah I mean I think in general I would say like my general take on religion in general is like that most people it's used as a way to control the masses and also to like uphold the power at the very top of whatever that is. And so I think that people like Emily is conveniently use religion to and they mold it to whatever their personal game like aim is. And I do think a lot of that is about like maintaining class status and um by maintaining I don't mean maintaining it as to where it is now. I mean like going back in time apparently um and I I I think it changed it's changed through where you look at different like countries and whatever the aim is but like it's always been used as a power wielding force and to control people in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

So I do think a lot of it's about the money and that I mean religion I feel like is we didn't know why things were happening. So religion gave us a nice answer for where we came from and then we can also use it you know to like keep people from killing each other. It was really like a government it was almost like just like a you know like a way to live and then it got a really good marketing department with churches or whatever. And you know then it turned into you know this we learned more and understood the world more instead of going like okay that religion was wrong. You know, we can actually eat pork now. Like it's they they still you know like like po like pigs would be dirty animals that would you know get they would spoil quickly you know so that's like where that comes from you know like I don't even know. Yeah it is I mean that if you look at I think it's a Deuteronomy it's like the one that has all the rules in it like that book is all just it was all just rabbinical code that was like to keep the Jews alive. Like it was you know things to keep it you know be keep people from like marrying their sister or fucking their cousin or whatever. You know like it was it was you know it was useful back then.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Yeah this but this is what cracks me up about religion I remember this is like when I was living in Texas um and I remember I was I think I was pregnant with my first child and I remember somebody being like are you gonna send them to Sunday school and I was like no I'm not a religious person at all I'm an yeah I'm an atheist like absolutely not and they're like but how will your kids learn about like morality and I was like I don't understand like I was it was like honestly a really baffling experience for me to realize that there are people who like and this is not this was not like a crazy person. Like they were like somebody who I you know I was friendly with I would say and I I was really stunned by that and it made me just realize how how what a probably very large percentage of the population thinks that way like thinks that like that the teaching within the Bible or Sunday school I don't I've never been to the Sunday school so I don't know what it would be like but like that that's where you learn these things and I'm like or or I'm just a good normal person who can like teach morality and ethics to my children in my everyday life and I think I successfully do that. But it just it is like really ingrained in us. And I think that that that was a really eye-opening experience for me because I grew up here in Evanston, lived in New York for a long time and then in I in Texas I think I was like I was in Austin but it was I was exposed to a lot of religious people in a way that I just had never been and it was just I don't know I was shocked by that.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

The hard thing about religion I'm not religious I was raised Catholic and I went to Catholic school um but I'm not practicing any longer I pray sometimes but um for specific things to happen.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

It's meditating manifestation only to Virgin Mary my mother um I think the hard thing about religion and from what I noticing and reading and and knowing religious people is there is nothing quite like it for people. And so they do use it for rules and they use it for reality but I think a lot of it is it offers you rituals right like it offers you now you're getting older you we did first communion we did confirmation you can get white there it offers you rituals to mark your life it offers you witnesses to see your life within those rituals you have a built-in community you have built in people who know you and I don't think religion is the answer but I do think humans as social beings need those things and we haven't been able to get our act together enough to replace it. And until there's like a viable replacement where people feel like that their life is being seen and that it's it's moving along and that people are witnessing that and that they're part of something bigger than themselves I think people are just going to keep going back to it. And like like you said Marion like you said Savannah for better or for worse mostly for worse like as we've seen throughout history it's like used to control people and to keep certain power structures power structures upheld but we don't have an alternative and that's what is really interesting to me about the religious discussion it's like how do you craft that for yourself it's much easier to go to church right like it's so much easier to go to church than to craft your own rituals, find your own community, have be part of your neighborhood, do all these things that require a lot of effort that's built in in a way that we don't have in the United States and I think in a lot of other places too.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

I mean it's an interesting thought just I just thought just now is like you know like we've America is in general the moving away from the church and there's like less people going to church now than there ever has been and one of the things that went with it is like the third space like it you know church is a place where you don't have to spend money to walk into you know there is you know you can it they're supposed to clothe you they're supposed to help you they're supposed to you know they you've got a therapist in the in confession you've got you know they've got all these ways to create that that place and you know we've all we've all a lot of people I mean my I was also raised Catholic I think I'd burst into flames if I walked into a church now but I'm fine I the Pope is kind of woke.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Love him I think he's great. He's great. I even the last one was real bad you might be okay. Yeah I loved Pope Francis. Um but it it's the lack of a third space a lot it's a lack of a place where we can all just like especially when you get older you're not going to bars anymore or you're not going to the coffee shop or you don't have college where you guys have to get together and have a study group. You know like we especially and if you if you move away from where you were for college like I was I went to college in Chicago and this never left. And so I have so many friends in Chicago. Like I can go anywhere and run into someone I know because I would I lived there for 28 years. Being up here it's really weird of being up here for like you know almost four years and it's like I have to make new friends as an adult and it it feels so weird. It's like will you hang out with me you know I mean the pink poster club does I'm not gonna lie give me some people I get to hang out with and you know and I know that they're like minded and that's the thing is there needs to be more pink poster clubs and places to meet because I think people were think the online community is the same and it just isn't.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

No it's not the same no it's not I really was thinking though like in this conversation I'm like oh my God I feel like part of I do I like joking kind of obviously because we're tiny but like pink post like this is what Emily and I keep saying things like it would be so great for there'd be more we don't mean like Pink Poster Club necessarily but like Pink Poster Club or other things like it because we kind of do offer that. Like we have like right now we now that it's nice out we have a monthly park hangout you literally just come and you show up and you don't have to do anything. Like you just come and that's like a space. I mean we don't have a therapist but like we do talk to I mean I don't know people obviously do talk to us a lot about yeah they talk their fears and anxiety talking to listen to not therapists to be clear. No not like but um I I so I some of those things are at a bar but like a lot of it is really low threshold to enter and like a lot of it is um almost everything is free or donation based like we we you know we don't have like this monetary barrier most of the time I feel like we're pretty conscious of that. So I don't know I just feel like there's there are I do hope I wish that the we people would fill that space because I do think you're right you guys are both right like there is this um this idea of community and people are like where else do I seek this community out? And to me it always felt easy because I just didn't grow up in that environment. Like I church was never a part of my life I never I never sought community there. I never missed it because I never had it. And so I always like from moving different places always sought that out myself but like I understand that that would be a scary thing for people if there's not like a space that feels like an open inviting there I remember there was a book that was that was really popular when I was in college that I read with it actually came out after I was in college.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

It was called Bowling Alone. Have you guys heard about this book? Yeah. Um and it's but the thrust of it is basically that people have stopped having you know have having bowling leagues and they've been becoming increasingly isolated and you know they're not having Tupperware parties and they're not having you know socials after church or whatever. And people are just increasingly becoming isolated and the more we isolated we get the less fabric in the community. They were and this book came out in like 2001 or something. You know like this has been something that people have been sort of talking about is like you know all of this isolation and is not good for us as a country and we don't have like the town square where everybody just kind of goes and hangs out.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

The first thing that came to mind is that this is and I talk a lot about this on social media too is with bowling alone and phones and not going back to the office and being isolated is like people think being online is the same as doing something in real life and it's not like it's just not it it cannot be a replacement for friction in your life or talking to the cashier or meeting your friends at the park. Like it cannot replace actual living. It has to how I try to think about it is like use a tool to live better like use it to find events to meet people who then you can go out in real life and hang out with them. Like advocate for things you want but it can't we're using it so much as a replacement and the negative effects of that are so clear that people are so lonely it's so addictive and what the Republicans are offering is like more comfortable because it doesn't require any faith like going back to what Savannah's talking about like envisioning something requires that you'd have faith that the world isn't inevitable. Like that the world that they're portraying for you is not inevitable. And that is a lot harder of a thought and emotion to hold than like anger and rage, which the phone fades you in but like you said as soon as you go outside and you meet other people and you have these different social interactions that are not even with your friends it's so clear that the world doesn't have to be like what they're giving you. And I think about it all those things like conflating into where we are right now and what do we do with it. I don't know community pink poster claims I think I do more pink poster quests to answer is just community.

SPEAKER_00 39:07

And I feel like we like what Emily was saying we really try to use our social media is like really about putting out events like being like come meet us here. Some of it is just like I don't know like informational a little bit but like most of our almost all of our posts I feel like are about coming to meet us in person, getting out there in person and like I think I mean I think Emily you've talked about this on your personal account but like facing that fear and doing it anyway like I know you've you've talked about this right a lot like where it's like when I do I think it's such an important thing to talk about and and for everyone to acknowledge who's doing something in community like I we've Emily and I've talked about this like we don't go to our events and don't feel scared. Like we go and we're like oh God no one's gonna be here I'm gonna be alone it's gonna be so awkward and like and then we're and then we do it anyway. And I think I there was like a specific post that Emily did on this that was really great where she talked about doing that anyway. Like it's not that people no one the people you see out in community who are out speaking who are out organizing aren't not they're not like they are not scared. They're there and they're scared and they're facing that and they're doing it anyway. And I think that is something that we have really I think social media has really taken that muscle away from us is like being able to show up and be like it's uncomfortable and that's okay. I was talking about my daughter recently where like defining the difference between being scared and being nervous. So I should really be saying I should say nervous like I'm not I'm not scared when I go to our events I'm very nervous like I'm sweating like I'm like I'm like my heart's racing a little bit it depends on what it is obviously but like some I I sometimes I get very nervous but that's that nervous usually means like you still want to do it but like you don't know what's going to happen. And whereas scared is like your body's like this is actually like something bad might happen. You know what I mean? So I I think it's a really interesting thing that we should talk about more and that when you see people like for whoever might be listening to this, you see people out, we're not not scared or nervous we're like just doing it because we think it's important. And I think the more that our kids I think about this too and not that everyone's like has children but the more that my kids see me doing these things and like showing up and being able to talk to different people and being able to be in situations that are a little uncomfortable like the better I think they'll be able to do those things too. And like I hope that we're raising this generation of people who won't hopefully be like on their phones all the time because that's so fucking depressing. Like I see teenagers out at like parks and they're on their phones like all in a group on their phones and I'm like when I was a teenager we were like fucking around we were running around we were being crazy we were having a blast we were making out like I want to see more teenagers making out at parks you know what I mean not in a creepy way but like just like being fun like having fun like taking risks.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah like you know like just getting get like getting in trouble you know like getting in trouble as much as getting in trouble. Yes and like in good trouble. Yeah like you know I get in trouble for you know yeah you know like running around and not come becoming homelade or you know drinking underage which you know happened um you know and like you get in trouble and it's like you learn that you can make mistakes and then you get to still be in the world and I think you know we're losing a lot of the that muscle to like you know make that happen.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

I also yes this is reminding me I also think like what social media does negatively is like you for I feel like people because they're online so much and they're witnessing reels and everything is like whatever an ad, an influence of this, or that like nothing is quite real. People like don't know how to be like see humans anymore. Like there people complain about like babies crying on the plane. They complain about teenagers being rowdy in the city they complain about kids ding dong ditching it's like we're we've lost the plot guys like we've lost the plot. You know what I mean like babies can cry on the plane you want to see teenagers out. Not doing anything dangerous but like it's normal teenage behavior to like hop a fence skateboard on the rail you're not supposed to smoke a cigarette have like like that's fine. We like we are so we don't have any space for each other anymore in a way I think we used to I just it feels very like everything is tenuous and critical of each other it's very black and white it's very black and white like oh I saw this teenager carousing he was riding a bike without a helmet smoking a cigarette and it's like then you post about it why are you posting about it so bizarre you know like next door sorry I'm just going on a rant are you guys on next door I had to get off it is literally the worst social media platform that exists because people literally like will post images of children like ding dong ditching them through their ring camera being like does anyone know who this child is they just ding dong ditch me and I'm like can someone find their teacher and tell their parent it's like no you're nuts. Why are you posting a photo of a kid who is just having fun ding dong ditching you like no we're not gonna find this what's the repercussion like so insane.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

So it's just people have like John and I were properly shamed on uh a Facebook group that we were on when we lived in the city Um, it was called Logan Square Parents to Unite and it was supposed to be like a, you know, like a the like the the cool parents web, like the not crazy ones. Uh my husband No would I'm so excited to hear this. I mean, so John John would take Sebastian to this park that we had to cross he had to cross Fullerton to get to. Like it was a you know, it was a busy street. Yeah. So he would take Sebastian in the stroller, like way past Sebastian being in stroller age, but it just got him there faster and like whatever. And John at the Heim was going through this phase where he was learning how to tie knots. And so we always had a rope with him, and he was always like, Hey Mary, this is a fisherman's nut. You know, if you ever needed to tie a wheel to the something, this is how this is the nut you would use for that. Like he really got into knots. Um so he would so he's so he's coming back from the from the um from the park and he's got a rope wrapped around it that he was doing knots with, and Sebastian uh stood up in or Sebastian was in the stroller and uh he kind of stood up and the st the stroller fell backwards. He was like five at the time, so he was like a robust child, like can handle it. This happened to my two and a half year old. It's happened every stroller hasn't fallen over, guys. Exactly. And so John picks it up and keeps walking. She posts a picture of Sebastian falling and on Logan Script Parents Unite and was like, What? I I like I feel very bad for this man's wife, was how she put it. Uh I'm like, that's your problem. Um, what? That's what I mean. Like people are saying, like you can't be posting shit like that. Like we have to bring back some like Yeah. Well, what's funny is I think I I got I started getting all these screenshots of it, like texted to me, like Mary Girl. Oh my god, that's I think this is John on on Facebook and it was like he's so dangerous, and you know, I can't bel I, you know, I I just worry about this child. I worry about that. And you know, I just I I just hope that his wife will forgive him. And I just hope she doesn't know that these things are happening. And it's like Yeah, it was the most thing. And it's like, if you were actually concerned, you would have run across the street and taken my son away from my own. Yeah. Like you just did that to harm to f to like shame us. And so I posted so I I posted a really mean response in the comments and I made some friends from it.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

I'm very happy you did that.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

And I repost it every year. It comes up, you know, in my memories, and I repost it every year.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

So I love it.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

You're just like, it's your most memorable Facebook story.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

That's really funny. Well, it's very funny. Ridiculous, but Emily, you mentioned the like negative thing, and or I don't know, you said something like how easy it is to talk about the negative or like not talk about something that's you're excited about, or like this this person, whoever like basically put this picture up for no reason, talking shit for no reason. Like, that's so easy to do. That's so much easy. That's so easy instead of being like, wait, let me actually think about like the joy that I have in my life, or like the positive thing that I saw. Like, I saw this person pick up his kid off. Yeah, there's a stroller. There are some people in the comments that like it's such a crazy, like what why do we grow go towards a negative? And I do think that is a neck, that is like a the a real negative in social media, and Emily you already said this, but like that it makes it really easy to like focus on the bad and to and to be able to be like really mean there in that space um in a way that we just like wouldn't in real life, and then yeah, to a face and like space, you would never and then I think it's also just teaching us to like be that like critical in that kind of way all the time, instead of being like, oh no, actually like that's these are normal things, and this is nice actually. It's nice that these kids are playing.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

For the for the most part, with the comments were were very positive in the in the shaming post. And there were like three guys that were like, you know, maybe if my dad would have played with me like that, I wouldn't be in therapy now. And it's like it's like, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

Maybe that's good. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

Um so like with the Pink Poster Club, like what if you had like what what's like your biggest dream for it or dream for this year? Like what would you like what would be the because I don't even like I don't know what you would call uh you a political action committee? Like what would you refer to it as?

SPEAKER_00 48:12

No, we're not a put political action committee.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

There we go.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Yeah, we say we're like a grassroots like community organizing group, basically. And we use like art and community building to create this space that feels like a safe space to get involved in advocacy. I don't know what my biggest goal or like what my like want is for the I think what I really just want, honestly, is for people to show up and to be involved. And I really hope that we have a you know, we want to do a lot in the midterms and we don't know exactly what that will be yet, but like I have, you know, goals around that, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Yeah, I just want to keep going and see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

That's my goal is to is to not quit. There's probably people that don't live around here that can't attend, but like maybe oh my gosh, what if you started different like pink poster clubs in different towns and you're like we've talked about that? Yeah, we talk about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

Yeah. We need to define it a little bit or like get it on our website. But we have like we want to we have like a community ally, right? That's what we're calling ally. And then we also are we are very open to somebody else doing like a pink poster club chapter. So if if people want to do that, they can reach out to us and we would share a lot of our like information, branding, stuff like that, I think, right? Um, for people to do that because it's just I you know, I think it's an e it's honestly a very easy thing to replicate. Like it's it's just like finding a couple people who will join you. It's very easy, and you just show up and you're vulnerable. That's the hard part. You have to be vulnerable and that's the hard part, and then it gets easier.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

What Savannah said about being vulnerable, and I I think about this a lot is like we went postering last week, and I I didn't really want to go in on the way, I was kind of like, Does this even do anything? But I think we need to like move away from worrying about the outcome and like do things because you want to do them and do them for the process and do them to build community and sustain yourself and be vulnerable and keep showing up and be human. And I just I kind of wish more people would just like start doing shit. You know what I mean? Like just like whatever you think, whatever you want to do, like it doesn't have to make money, it doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to like hit all the right notes and whatever, be messaged and styled and have like we just need more people doing things.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Yeah, Pink Plus makes no money, to be clear. We make we make no money. We don't have anything. We just put our own money into shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

Well, and I think I mean, I have fallen into the same trap of like feeling this need to have to monetize every hobby that I have. And like, you know, like, or if I'm not making money at all times, am I am I what am I even a person? Am I even a human if I'm not always making money? And I never, ever, ever used to feel that way. And it just feels like in the last like five years, I'm like afraid of I'm afraid of money all the time. Yeah. I I just I I hate that feeling. And it's and I never used to feel that way. And I've no nothing's changed in my financial situation that's made it so that I'm, you know, more vulnerable to getting evicted or whatever. I just and if I'm having that anxiety, most people probably are also having that anxiety. And it makes it hard to do stuff, you know. It's like, it's like, you know, oh, I could learn how to knit, but that's gonna take a lot of time and I don't have money for the yarn, and so I'm just gonna sit here and watch CSI Miami. And it's like, you know, and I I think that, you know, or I'm gonna sit here and bed rot. I also, this is also a thing I have a hard time with, or like people who are like, you know, like I cancel plans. It's not that I do it, it's more just the publicizing of it. Like it's like a it's like a flex in memes. And like because if you are, if you are not, if you're not bedrotting, if you are bedrotting rather, if you're bedrotting, if you're if you're like staying home because you're canceled the fun thing you were doing with your friend, what are you gonna do? You're probably on Instagram. You are probably well, you're posting about it. So it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

I didn't know it was a thing, guys. I'm lost, but I love notes. I don't love this, I hate it. Now you know. Now you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

But it's just it's it's a thing to keep us in the matrix, in the simulation.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

I do think that's that's what I was kind of gonna. I was like, I feel like it's all sort of it's not like as sinister as I'm making it sound, or but like I do think it's all kind of part of the system of like when we are focused on how to constantly make money, we're not actually like enjoying a lot of our life. And like there's never there's and I think we see this with the corporations, there's never enough that everyone always wants more. Like there's not like Jeff Bezos, there's no point in which he's like, my company is clearly making enough money. I am the richest person ever, Elon Musk, whatever, whoever's richer, I don't know. But like there, there's no point in which you're gonna make enough to be satisfied. So at a certain point, money is a real concern, obviously. But I don't think that um, like trying to make a hobby into a money-making machine, I think is like this like a false um, it's not gonna it's not gonna work because you're gonna start hating your hobby. Like I remember I remember listening to this, like, I don't know, some podcast, and I was on a road, I think we were driving to Austin, and I was listening to something and it really like struck with me where they were this person was saying how the there are these people through, I think it was like Hidden Brain or something, who had these hobbies, things that they love that are really good at, and then they started to get paid for it and how like how their value in that thing diminished like significantly the moment they started getting paid for it. And I really like there, people have said things like, well, what if Pink Poster Club did this or that, or like you guys became a nonprofit? And I'm not saying that will never happen. I'm not like locking us in a box, but I do fear that if we did that and if we ever started to make a money off of it, like I think that I think some of the joy that I have out of it would go would be it wouldn't be the same. I don't know. I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_01 54:05

I I ruined my love of DJing by starting a DJing company. Yeah. You know, like it's it, I mean, not really, but kind of. I mean, for years I thought I hated DJing. And now that I've stepped away from the company and I'm doing hot flash dance, now I kind of care about it again. But it, you know, it it's it's uh it is a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

You know, I think we just all think we're supposed to like love our job. And to me, I'm like, oh wait, no, I actually just have I there's things that I like about my work for sure. I do like my work in a lot of ways, but like it's not what I live for. My work allows me to have enough money to like sustain my life and to have do the things in my life that are really meaningful to me, which means like spending time with my family, reading books, spending time with my f friends, spiking around. Like those are the things that I think I think we have in America. This is a specific like American thing where we're like, what do you do? And like, does that thing ful give give you fulfillment fulfillment? I'm like, I get fulfillment from my life with my family and my friends. Right. And like Pink Poster Club, honestly. Like those are I just think I think we have this weird idea around like having to make money off of your thing that you love, and I think it ends up kind of ruining it.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

So well, so first of all, I think I don't think being rich seems cool. I use like I've never seen a really rich person who seemed happy. And if an if at what point is there enough money? Like, I don't understand how you could possibly want more money that just is also only on paper. Like, really go liquidate, show me three billion dollars in cash. Um but um imagine, I don't even know what that was like. No, and they couldn't do it because their money's not real. You literally can't imagine it.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

I can't imagine I even imagine it because it's like literally so much fucking money.

SPEAKER_01 55:43

There is a difference, I think, between commerce and capitalism. And I think that you we all should love our jobs, actually, because we're doing something that provides something of service to the community. And so, you know, like we we need someone to be the baker and we need someone to make the food and grow the food, and we have like all these people that used to fill these roles. And then when we started, you know, serve you know, sending all of these jobs overseas, or they became jobs that only an underpaid, you know, immigrant class, you know, that the only reason why we're able to have, you know, these sort of things is because we've now we're now paying underpaying, you know, immigrants that we're not anymore. I'm not sure how that's gonna go. But my point is is that I wish we could get away from how hardcore we have to be capitalist and we have to make we have to make more money. Like yes, I'm exhausted of it. Like I just want to have commerce, you know. I like to barter. Yeah. I mean, I I will do anything for DJC.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

You want a barter system. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

I mean that I mean barter being part of it and it not being like like the reason why sex work is illegal not is not for moral purposes, is because they can't tax it. Like it I mean, it's that is if they could find a way to tax women's vaginas any more than they already do, uh they'd be doing it. Then we would have, you know, more you would have, you know, sex work that was that was legal. They would be all about that. This was really fun.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

This was very cute.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

That was very fun.

SPEAKER_00 57:06

So pinkposterclub.com? Yeah, is that right? Yes, yes, okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

And then our Instagram, pink dot posterclub. And then uh their personal Instagrams are also like must follows. Emily thinks aloud, right? And Savannah goes politics. We'll put we'll put them in the show notes. We'll put them in the show notes. Lovely. Oh, I also wanted to say I also really love your roundup of good things on Fridays. Like they do it, I love it. They do it, you guys do a post, they do a post every Friday of like actual good things that happen in the world, and I swear to God, I look forward to it every week because it's like usually, usually it's stuff that I didn't like I didn't know, and it's usually like, hey, in Idaho, they actually passed, you know, they're gonna take up pesticides out of farming or whatever. And it's like good, okay, then it's not all just a piece of fire.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

Yeah, it's burning. That's thanks to Danny. And she makes that and it's great. And I I also literally look forward to it every Friday. It's like because every every week's a fucking dumpster fire, and then that we have like it's like it is something to look forward to. And it if you follow us for anything, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 58:11

Um, well, thanks guys for coming on, and maybe I'll have you back sometime. We can have another weird conversation. We can have fun.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

I'll watch the X Files. I won't go stark, I swear. I got a little dark this time.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Or maybe when you guys go public, you know, with Pink Poster Club, I can I can ring the bell at the uh can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 58:31

We are public. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 58:34

No, like how much more public can we get? Uh IPO, baby. Trading.

SPEAKER_00 58:39

Oh my God. How much would our shares be worth, you know?

SPEAKER_02 58:43

Exactly. All right, Mary, you can ring the bell if that happens.

SPEAKER_01 58:47

I'm ringing the bell. I'm ringing the bell. All right. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Bye. See you next week. Bye. Thanks for listening to All of the My Lady Business with me, Mary Easty. Uh, we'd love for you to like, review, subscribe, follow us to All of the My Lady Business on the Ram. And if you're a female identifying person and you want to dance, you follow everybody can follow us. But if you want to be a part of the magic at hot squat dance party, I'll find cards. And listen to my radio show. It's the radio show. Alright, guys, peace out.