Episode 18: Home Technology and Aging In Place

Whitney Ward is the co-owner of Peach Pro Consulting. She is an expert in everything related to television home technology and internet. Whitney educates us on what is new in the industry and how fiber is transforming home technology. 

Transcript

[00:00:00] Janet: Hello. And today we have Whitney Ward with us. She is the co-owner of PeachPro Consulting. She co-owns it with her husband, Danny Ward and PeachPro Consulting is a one stop shop for all of your cutting edge technology needs. They offer product selections from industry leading brands, such as AT&T Direct TV.

[00:00:26] Janet: ADT and Xfinity, Whitney. Thank you for being with us today. 

[00:00:29] Whitney: Good morning, Janet. How are you? I'm doing well. Thank you. 

[00:00:34] Janet: So I'm excited to have you on the show because this is the first time that we're gonna have a professional or an expert that. Does this type of service related to technology?

[00:00:48] Janet: Yeah, and I think it's just so important for aging in place because technology really is gonna be the biggest area in aging in place [00:01:00] so tell us about. Your career. I know that both you and your husband worked in this industry prior to starting peach pro consulting.

[00:01:11] Janet: So you take 

[00:01:12] Whitney: the lead for sure. So thank you for having me. First of all, I'm so excited to be here and to share what we do. So we originally we have a combined about 20 years experience in, in, in telecom industry. We. Started out with Comcast corporate. He started in 2010 and I started about 2015 after I was out of school and he has always been in like the residential direct selling space.

[00:01:42] Whitney: So very door to door knocking and selling switching people or if they're moving in, things like that. Working with realtors and developers in new communities to onboard telecom process. And what I started doing [00:02:00] was with a group called Xfinity communities. And it was a new department.

[00:02:05] Whitney: I started it from the ground up, which was. A really cool experience from like a corporation standpoint. And what we did was we specifically worked with like apartment communities, new construction, single family homes. And these big corporations have an agreement with these communities to provide service to their homeowners.

[00:02:29] Whitney: And it's very it's very important to these corporations to have these contracts in place and these relationships. Especially from building it from the ground up from when construction starts all the way through the completion. A lot of things can go really right. And a lot of things can go really wrong at the same time.

[00:02:48] Whitney: And there needs to be like a middle man. So that was my job was to bridge those. Between the builder on, in the community, the property management company, the [00:03:00] homeowners, their renters, and the end, Comcast and the corporation. And just of make sure that relationship is doing well.

[00:03:09] Whitney: And residents are getting their needs, are being met and everything that they ask for is being communicated properly. So once I did that for about three and a half years, and then I decided that I wanted to get some sales experience. So I went to the commercial side. So I sold telecom services at two small businesses, usually about a hundred employees in fewer than that.

[00:03:35] Whitney: So did that for a couple of years, had a really cool experience doing that. It was a shift in, in my whole. Resume which was great. So in 2020 so my husband wanted to be in management, he was ready to climb that corporate ladder and which brought us to from Tennessee.

[00:03:58] Whitney: We moved from Nashville [00:04:00] to here in north Georgia brought us to Georgia and we were settling in well, and COVID started. So that kind of changed the dynamic and Everything was done. There was a new normal was starting to settle in. So we started this con consulting business where we contract for what you mentioned before, big brands, like at and T direct TV, ADT, home security.

[00:04:27] Whitney: And we really wanted to focus on. The relationship aspect with builders and real estate agents in like new communities, just for all the reasons I mentioned previously, those relationships are important. And it's important to have that that communication that on ground communication and the corporate side of things, they removed all of the individuals that were responsible for having some of those relationships out of the field.

[00:04:57] Whitney: Where my heart is [00:05:00] new construction needs that these new communities that are developing, they need that relationship. They need to have that point of contact in order to facilitate some of the things, like I said, that go wrong and the things that go right and specifically with the 55 plus community.

[00:05:19] Whitney: Te technology is changing so fast. There's all this idea of fiber's such a buzzword, it's such a great product. And streaming is, I mean it's just the way that we do things now. And it can be very intimidating to. Think of those things and to understand those things, cause today it's streaming tomorrow, it could be metaverse or something so it moves very quickly and it's even it's very difficult to not only just keep up with technology, but that's just one more thing on the list to keep up with.

[00:05:55] Whitney: So know, we take that onto our plate to make sure that we [00:06:00] We are keeping up with it. And so when homeowners or renters move into a space we take the res we understand how a lot of the the layout of the home, like the square footage, if it's a ranch style, if it's a multi-level.

[00:06:17] Whitney: And how they live their life. Do they like technology? Are they very technology, heavy savvy? Do they understand what what they're working with or are they very like simple where they just they have a couple of little smart speakers and maybe they stream like direct TV or something like that and they wanna keep it very, just simple.

[00:06:40] Whitney: But they're, but the way that TV and internet is done now, So customizable, it's not just, Hey, I want some HBO, a couple of local channels and some internet and call it a day. It's this is what I watch specifically. I watch these premium channels. These are the shows that I [00:07:00] watch.

[00:07:00] Whitney: I like to I like to use my Alexa speaker to turn on my oven. I like to have the voice remote because I don't wanna push the teeny tiny buttons on the remote to to guide my TV. So there's a lot of different options when it comes to. Watching TV anymore. And that's where we step in is to help understand that process, get it connected.

[00:07:24] Whitney: What specific programming they anybody likes to watch what fiber even means because used to, we just call it internet, but now we call it fiber. So there's a lot of different, there's a lot of different components in. 

[00:07:37] Janet: Wow. That's a lot. yeah. So I'm trying to understand it. And I know that you mentioned in a conversation we had previously how peach pro consulting offers a, a.

[00:07:49] Janet: Type of concierge service for all of these technology needs. So can you explain that to us and tell us what [00:08:00] does that look like for a specific 

[00:08:02] Whitney: person? Right. So that's a great question. So whenever a homeowner goes under contract or has a closing date set or a move in date they are put in touch with us or vice versa.

[00:08:16] Whitney: And we open that conversation. Specifically with new construction, closing dates can change. And we of take the reins on facilitating an installation. We can move that around. And when they reach out to us, they say, Hey, I'm calling because I want to set up my internet, my TV and my home security installation.

[00:08:37] Whitney: So we get the address. We make sure that it's serviceable. And if not, then of course we have resources to be able to step in, to, to make, to. To determine when that is going to be ready and to align that with their move in date, when they're gonna be settled and want to sit down and have it enjoy their evening or work from home or whatever the case is.

[00:08:59] Whitney: [00:09:00] So we just discuss with them the products that we offer of course, depending on where they live, depends on if it's at and T or if it's. Comcast or whichever is available and we go over their options with them. If they like a lot of TV or they like a little bit of TV and now the cool, the great thing about some of the streaming services that are available are they're a hybrid between.

[00:09:27] Whitney: Netflix like those big name streaming services and what cable used to be. Where there's still a channel guide. So you can still scroll through a channel where there's like channel two is ABC 27 is lifetime 58 is E but then there's also the on demand programming where there's tons of movies and shows that they can just watch with a click of a button.

[00:09:48] Whitney: Like traditional streaming service. And, but it still comes with a remote too. And like I said, the voice remote is massive with this with people because of the convenience of it. I [00:10:00] mean, it's like talking, if you can talk into your phone, you can talk into the remote So we walk through.

[00:10:06] Whitney: Those details on the, on what kind of technology has moved to and the convenience of it. So it's not so scary, so it's not so intimidating because really it all works very similar to how it used to. We've just got new names for it. So we walk through. What the setup process looks like.

[00:10:27] Whitney: We set up their emails and everything for them on the front end, we do all of the programming on our side of things. That way, when the homeowner moves in, they just log in with an email and they create their own password. And all of their programming is on the TV. It makes it very easy. So we take the load on our side of all of the shuffling and the programming.

[00:10:47] Whitney: That way, when a homeowner moves in, the technician will come out and install and then boom, everything's on their TV. 

[00:10:54] Janet: Wow. That's great. So I also see on your website that you [00:11:00] offer security services security system services. So how does that 

[00:11:05] Whitney: work? Yeah, so we have a specialist on our team that kind of goes over the The packages, the equipment you can the great thing about the ADT product that we offer is that you can mix and match that.

[00:11:19] Whitney: So it's very customizable to a home and specific needs. So they the specifically with ADT, they offer emergency services. So if there is ever a health scare or a break in or anything like that, Emergency services will be notified and there's different types of equipment that make that convenient.

[00:11:44] Whitney: Whether it be door sensors, window sensors, there's a button you can click, you can access it from an app on your phone. So if there ever is any type of medical or like criminal emergency, then of, then there's a lot of convenient. To get [00:12:00] help. So you are protected and you are safe. They do a little bit of lighting.

[00:12:04] Whitney: I know you and I had a conversation about, of, about lighting. So there are some lighting packages that they can choose from. So you know, all these smart technologies are your home is like a big robot anymore, which is. Which is really cool from from a just a convenience standpoint and a safety standpoint.

[00:12:24] Whitney: So they do offer different type of lighting equipment and things like that, that integrate into their product. 

[00:12:31] Janet: okay, great. Cuz that's such an important part of aging in place. Really security we think safety and security, but in aging in place, security is being protected from violence.

[00:12:46] Janet: And since most of the people that are aging in place are women. Then security tends to be a very big deal. So I think it's great that you've integrated this into your business. [00:13:00] So what else what should someone expect when they give you a call and they wanna hire your services? Because I know you told me that.

[00:13:11] Janet: You guys continue to be there. It's not like you just set everything up and you're there once it's a relationship, which really, I mean, I would like to have you guys come to my house. so how does that 

[00:13:25] Whitney: whole process work? Yeah, so like I said, we set up everything on the front end, but when you're moving, when you're trying to coordinate so many different moving.

[00:13:35] Whitney: If you're making a big lifestyle change, especially that is that there's a lot of information coming your way. And a lot of it may not be retained in that moment or when it comes back up again, you're like, oh yeah, I did talk to, I did talk to Whitney about that. I do remember her saying something about that.

[00:13:54] Whitney: And when I know I. Talking about new construction, but that's why [00:14:00] I'm stressing it more than anything is that there's a lot of moving parts in the community as well. So things get broken even after after service is up and running and we can facilitate that as well. There's a lot of questions about billing that come up.

[00:14:17] Whitney: Because you still pay for internet and TV service in advance. So there's some questions about billing that come up how to even with some of the services that we offer, like I mentioned, it's very customizable, so we can walk someone through how to do you prefer it this way or this way?

[00:14:37] Whitney: And if you don't like how something functions on your TV or how it. Good chances are, is there's a setting that can be changed to where it makes it a little bit more customizable to what, how you use it. I see a lot of these real estate agents. I speak with a lot of the builders very regularly.

[00:14:54] Whitney: So we understand how a lot of the wiring and stuff is done in the home. So [00:15:00] I don't get a whole lot of like post-install questions, but they do come up and they're very important and they do like that we are there, so they don't have to call an 800 number and be passed around and maybe give maybe their answer was, or.

[00:15:14] Whitney: Answer or maybe their question wasn't answered. Some of the formalities on what we do are cut out we, we're not following a flow chart. When we're speaking on behalf of these things, so we're very we're local. We cover Georgia, like Metro Atlanta.

[00:15:31] Whitney: We've got Chattanooga market, north Georgia and middle T. So we're, we are there and we are part of the community, which I think is very important for understanding how a lot of this works. 

[00:15:42] Janet: Yeah. And that's so valuable to have someone that you can call because now if that service is even available, it takes.

[00:15:53] Janet: At least six minutes before you can get to the option. Right. where you can choose to speak to someone, which is just so [00:16:00] frustrating. And earlier you mentioned. Having speakers in the house. So that is one huge part about aging in place, especially as we get older and our hearing maybe declining and especially now that we have so many homes, that the style is to have floor. plan And so sound becomes a real problem because you have the kitchen that's right next to the living room. And if you're heart of hearing, you're going to be turning up the volume to the television which is just terrible for someone who's in the kitchen.

[00:16:39] Janet: Or for example, if someone's in the kitchen, washing dishes, it really interferes with your ability to hear. The television And so one thing I always talk about is that you can play speakers in a specific area of the room where that person will not have to turn up the volume so loud because the [00:17:00] sound is gonna come through the speakers, which are localized.

[00:17:03] Janet: So can you tell us about how. You can make that happen and how all 

[00:17:08] Whitney: of that works. Yeah. So a lot of these, a lot of these newer what we're shifting to is smart technology. And what you're talking about is integrating their TV service into these speakers. And it's a lot like a home entertainment experience.

[00:17:26] Whitney: And you can just like surround sound systems and things like that, how they have evolved. Now they make them to where you can turn one speaker on, or you can turn all of the speakers on. A lot of times they're wireless so you can place them Anywhere in the home.

[00:17:43] Whitney: You could be upstairs listening to your TV, that's downstairs or anywhere else out out on the, on, out on the patio even. So a lot of these, a lot of the, a lot of the TV especially some of the products that we sell, integrate they're powered by Google [00:18:00] assistant.

[00:18:00] Whitney: So it turns the entire system into a smart system. And you'll be able to speak and into into. Any device that you have connected, whether it be a speaker you can talk to your, you talk to your home and which is very futuristic. You talk to your home and it knows where to go.

[00:18:20] Whitney: So these speakers that you're talking about and it, they can be very they can be sitting next to you and you just play the one, or you can, like you said, in the kitchen just move, move along your home freely. And the sound kind of follows you that way. 

[00:18:36] Janet: That's great.

[00:18:37] Janet: And so I have another question for you, and this may sound like a dumb question, but what is streaming? What does 

[00:18:44] Whitney: that mean? Streaming really just means that it requires the internet to operate. Okay. So traditionally. When you were to get a like cable TV or satellite TV installed they need all of these [00:19:00] outlets, all of these, all of this big equipment they have to come in and make your home a big smart room with all of this bulky equipment where now.

[00:19:09] Whitney: Streaming can come from your cell phone. It can come from your computer or anything that can get the internet on it, you can stream from. So really, it just means that it requires the internet to operate, which essentially turns it into a wireless operation. Used to computers would take up an entire.

[00:19:30] Whitney: Home almost. And now they're teeny, teeny tiny devices. So cable TV, and how and entertainment experiences have also down the it's gotten smarter, so it's not so invasive and bulky. It's very little and and convenient. So it just requires the internet is basically what streaming means.

[00:19:52] Janet: Okay. And now, because there's so much content available through the internet, that's why it's no [00:20:00] longer necessary to have a, to pay for a cable service. 

[00:20:03] Whitney: Right. And some people it's not when you're in a big city, like we are internet is. Is just like fish in a barrel. It's very widespread.

[00:20:13] Whitney: It's very fast. There's still lots of parts in the country that are very rural. And so they don't have access to high speed internet just yet. It's coming with our current administration, they have. They have, that's a big project that they are working on is trying to get better internet to these deeper parts of the country.

[00:20:34] Whitney: So, so cable and satellite TV is still very necessary for some parts of the country. But like I said, for us here in a big city the internet and everything's gonna be very fast and very very reliable as far as the connectivity. 

[00:20:49] Janet: Okay, thanks for clearing up. Yeah. so I also want your opinion on how you think technology is going to be [00:21:00] evolving in the future.

[00:21:01] Janet: You already said it's always evolving. It evolves very quickly. The names change it's hard for. People my age, I'm in my forties to keep up with it. That's why I just asked you what exactly is streaming because I did. Yeah. 

[00:21:16] Whitney: and that's a good question. Cause not a lot of people understand it or really it's just a buzzword, so it's just kinda, it happens and you're kinda like, what does that exactly mean?

[00:21:24] Whitney: No, it totally get it. 

[00:21:26] Janet: Right. So how do you see technology evolving in the future? What is next? Wow. Since more about this subject than a lot of us do. Yeah. That's 

[00:21:39] Whitney: It's very. I mean internet fast, internet fiber internet is definitely the future. That's the generation we're moving into and what fiber internet means.

[00:21:51] Whitney: So we used to provide internet over what we call coax cable, and that was an asymmetrical. [00:22:00] System. So say companies advertise I'm sure you hear numbers thrown out like crazy, like internet 300 internet, 501 gig internet. All these numbers are advertised and the numbers that are advertised are the download speeds.

[00:22:14] Whitney: So used to social media, web browsing emailing stuff like that requires it's very dependent on the download speed, which is what is a. Now high definition, video, like video conferencing, streaming TV, online gaming, anything that requires a high definition video over the internet is very dependent on the upload speed.

[00:22:41] Whitney: So coax cable and how we used to do things. Those speeds were not symmetrical. So the advertised speed where it would be. Say internet 500, that's the download speed, but the upload speed would only be like 15 megabits per second, 20 megabits per second. So you can see the vast difference in [00:23:00] those numbers where fiber provides symmetrical.

[00:23:04] Whitney: So those advertised speeds internet 501 gig. That's the download speed as well as the upload speed. And this was, I mean, these this internet was created for. Internet TV, streaming TV, the conferencing, you know what we're doing? The your podcast is over the internet and things like that.

[00:23:23] Whitney: So it's very dependent on that. Upload speed. So that's what fiber even means is just that it's built for this type of environment. And as far as where it's going. Fiber will obviously evolve into its next into the next thing over the years. But that's where we're headed currently.

[00:23:42] Whitney: And a lot of providers are doing that already and moving into that space. But man, as far as like streaming TV, Wow. That's there's a lot of talk about the metaverse right now. I think that's gonna be heavily involved with kind of what we do from a [00:24:00] an entertainment standpoint.

[00:24:01] Whitney: I would love to see the old school cable providers. Get into that type of idea of cable again, where they take from streaming services and create like a channel on their TV. So like you have your Netflix channel, you have your Amazon prime channel and you take the best of those services and create a TV, like a TV channel.

[00:24:25] Whitney: That's where I would love to see something go. But that's just me living in my fantasy world. So but as, as far as the future, I mean, internet is definitely fiber internet is definitely where it's headed. For sure. 

[00:24:38] Janet: So you mentioned the metaverse, 

[00:24:42] Whitney: what is that? Metaverse is this mark Zuckerberg has Facebook and so he rebranded to meta.

[00:24:50] Whitney: I think it was last year and so it's very like a virtual reality. And he wants, I, the, I guess the plan in a nutshell is to create [00:25:00] our world, like how we live our normal life, like where we go to work, where we go to play, where we live, we'll be created virtually. So we'll be able to go see our parents in a virtual space or go visit friends in a virtual space.

[00:25:16] Whitney: And it's as if we were actually there. I don't know if I love that. 

[00:25:19] Whitney: It's a scary thought. I I'm with you on that. It's it sounds a little too good to be true sometimes. 

[00:25:26] Janet: Well, I just don't know with I mean, obviously if distance is the reason why you cannot be with that person, then that sounds great.

[00:25:38] Janet: But if it's going to replace. Having normal interactions face to face interactions. I mean, I think we all learned our lesson through COVID how important face to face interactions are. I don't know if I would want a future where that was, 

[00:25:57] Whitney: how people interacted. Yeah. I'm with you. And we were [00:26:00] talking about.

[00:26:00] Whitney: Earlier, like accidents happening, falling in your home. I said, I'm gonna be running into walls for sure. With a big with big virtual reality glasses on 

[00:26:11] Janet: right? Yeah. So I wanna go back to cost because what I hear people say all the time is, well, why would you pay for cable service anymore?

[00:26:22] Janet: When you have streaming, it's so much cheaper. So can you E explain that to us? And I wanna say, I know for growing up, my parents never paid for cable service. Because it was too expensive, so I never real enjoyed what that was until I was an adult. And then I realized how expensive it is.

[00:26:42] Janet: Yeah. So. So, yeah. Tell us about streaming the cost savings versus having 

[00:26:48] Whitney: cable. And it's that's a great question because I've I, as I mentioned before, I've been in the industry for seven years now, and this was before [00:27:00] streaming became very streamlined and popular. And so all there ever was, if you wanted TV service, you you got cable or satellite TV and we.

[00:27:11] Whitney: I see why people have why they wouldn't get it. And I also see why they would, where before, I guess the biggest concern with cable was there's a lot of cha you pay for. 200 channels and you only watch 10 of them. So you're paying for all these additional channels that you may or may not use.

[00:27:33] Whitney: And that was the biggest criticism against it when streaming started coming out. And so the back, when it started coming on into our day to day the big thing was I wanna be able to choose which networks I go with. I wanna be able to choose a LA cart, my own entertainment experience.

[00:27:56] Whitney: And that's what we have now. We have, I mean, almost every single network [00:28:00] has their major network has their own streaming platform and you're talking on average $10 a month for. For for one network to wa be able to watch TV. So now it's coming full circle again, where people were cutting the cord to go to streaming services.

[00:28:17] Whitney: And now there's so many of them, you have 10, five five to 10 streaming services and you're paying $200 again. So you didn't really save any money in the long run. And people are coming back to the traditional kind of cable. Of the on demand content. There's a lot of movies that are on the on demand.

[00:28:39] Whitney: That are on streaming services. And a lot of people still like their live TV live sports is a big one. The news local news stations. That's a big one. So there's still definitely a demographic that. Is very traditional kind of cable services is very desirable.

[00:28:59] Whitney: And then, [00:29:00] like I said, now it's starting to get, there's so many different streaming services that you're not really saving any money and it's clunky to move back and forth between the streaming services. If you don't have. If you don't have something that it can communicate seamlessly through.

[00:29:17] Whitney: And by that, I mean like an app catalog on your TV and not every TV has all of the streaming services. So there's it's still very clunky, I guess, for lack of better term in, in trying to get all of these different network streaming services on your TV versus just having cable, which is a great experience.

[00:29:37] Whitney: There's a lot of content on there. 

[00:29:40] Janet: So Netflix, for example, is a streaming service. and apple TV. Right, right, right. Okay. So you really clarified things for me. So, so I understand if you're playing, you're paying for Netflix, you're paying for apple TV who knows? There's always [00:30:00] some new channel coming up that.

[00:30:02] Janet: Now I know is a streaming service then. Yeah. I can see how your bill would quickly increase. So now I understand what you said that you'd like a hybrid version right. Of the cable and the streaming service and especially so that they would communicate well. So it wouldn't be confusing for the person going back and forth from one service to another.

[00:30:25] Janet: Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Well, what I want is for the price to go down. Yeah. so, 

[00:30:33] Whitney: yes, I'm with you on that. It's not cheap at all. AB it anymore. 

[00:30:39] Janet: Yeah. Yeah. So is there anything else that you wanna say about technology and how it relates to aging in place and. A service like yours that really bridges the gap between the big companies and having these 

[00:30:55] Whitney: services.

[00:30:56] Whitney: Yeah. So I I I still have [00:31:00] I'm the go-to in my family for when something goes wrong with their internet or their cable. I'm the first person in my whole family. And I do have I do have members in my family that are aging in place and that are, that they fit that that mold.

[00:31:18] Whitney: And I see them struggle with kind of understanding and navigating this kind of thing. So it's very personal to me to be able to take hold of. Demographic and hold their hand and very, and be very patient. Which I think is huge in this environment because we aren't, we are not patient.

[00:31:39] Whitney: We want it done now. And we we wanna get to the point and move on. So it's very, this is a very personal topic that we're talking about to me. It's very dear to me. So I think that. having someone that can put some personal experience in there is beneficial as well, to be able to [00:32:00] have a good experience and just be of service to them.

[00:32:04] Whitney: And I'm really it warms my heart to be able to do that. Yes. Well, that's beautiful. And someone that you can talk to on the phone for sure. Yeah, 

[00:32:12] Whitney: just a text message or phone call away. 

[00:32:15] Janet: yes. Well, thank you, Whitney. I really learned a lot from you today. Okay. I think you're the guest that I've had on that.

[00:32:23] Janet: I was the least knowledgeable about their area. Yeah. So so thank you for coming. And so tell. Our listeners, how can they get a hold of peach pro consulting? And what's the best way a number. I know you guys 

[00:32:40] Whitney: also have a website yeah. And thank you for having me. I really enjoyed this.

[00:32:44] Whitney: I always joke around and tell people this is a, technology' kind of a a. Sometimes boring subjects. So I'm like I'm the life that you should hear me at parties. I'm such a good time, but but 

[00:32:57] Janet: Well, that's what I say about aging [00:33:00] in place I say I'm the girl that likes to talk about toilets, right?

[00:33:03] Whitney: yeah. We have a deeper understanding of each other. That's for sure. But so my direct number, my cell phone number is (470) 590-6127. It's also listed on our website, which. Peachpro.com. You can see our whole company there. And you can reach me directly off at my email, which is my first name, Whitney peachpro.com.

[00:33:25] Whitney: So there's a form you can submit on our website that comes directly to me. If  if you can't remember all of those numbers and things  and I  I get it and I'll reach out and I'm very happy to talk to anybody. Even if it's just answering a few questions, 

[00:33:41] Janet: Okay, great.

[00:33:42] Janet: And on the show notes, I will also include direct links to their website. And then I will also have their phone number. So all of the information will be there if you wanna get in touch with Whitney or with her husband, Danny. 

[00:33:57] Whitney: Thank you so much. 

[00:33:59] Janet: Yes. [00:34:00] Thank you, Whitney. It was a pleasure having you on the show today. .