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EP 43: The Gadirova Twins Masterclass
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Olympic bronze medalists Jessica and Jennifer Gadrova pull back the curtain on their extraordinary journey at a special masterclass event for young gymnasts hosted by Class for Kids.
What makes their story so compelling? They never actually set out to become Olympians. "We just did gymnastics for fun and because we loved it," they reveal, explaining how their parents enrolled them in various after-school activities, but gymnastics simply "felt more connected" to them.
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All right, I'm good. How are you Not?
Speaker 2:bad Been a while.
Speaker 1:It has been a while yeah.
Speaker 2:How long exactly has it been?
Speaker 1:Since I recorded a podcast with you, it would have been October 2024.
Speaker 2:See, we had just rested there. Yeah, can I do that now Do you do that now? Yeah, Just got cool in your absence.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What were you off doing, anyway, I?
Speaker 1:know that you talked actually a better podcast. Co-host.
Speaker 2:Who's sitting in the corner right now?
Speaker 1:I was off because I had a baby.
Speaker 2:You did. What is the?
Speaker 1:baby called again. He is called Noah and he is now nearly eight months, which is insane to say. But yeah, that's what I've been doing in my time off. I say it because it wasn't really a holiday. I think this is more of the holiday than actually having a baby. So I'm sure if any listeners or watchers out there are tuning into this and they have kids, they can probably relate to see that work is actually I certainly.
Speaker 2:Can you go for a rest? I don't even get paid to come here. I just get here to get away from the family. Yeah, stephen's our charity work. Yep, they adopted me at birth. Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Why from birth, I don't know. I just think that it would be wrong to admit what. Were they going to adopt me when I'm like 40? Yeah, can.
Speaker 3:I have him.
Speaker 1:I mean no, because you can. Can you be an orphan at 40?
Speaker 2:yeah, you can be an orphan at any point in your life, but can you be adopted?
Speaker 1:I don't know we need to Caitlin, can you research that? Surely you can only be adopted before you're 80.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, because I think after that, legally you're an adult. Oh, you're an adult.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need a researcher for this podcast now.
Speaker 2:Okay, we do need an independent researcher for this podcast. We've got Caitlin in the corner, if anybody else wants to apply.
Speaker 1:Anyway, aside from, your legal adoption, which is questionable. I don't know how we got into that straight away.
Speaker 2:But yes, welcome back.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you, We've got a really good interview today.
Speaker 2:It was conducted by yourself after your return and actually Noah had a kind of partner and everything we're about to talk about just now he did. So, where did we go? So we went to Harrow in London Gymnastics, harrow Gymnastics, yes, and I think the place was called Harold's.
Speaker 1:The place was called Harold's, yeah, yeah. So I think it was my second week back in the office and Stephen had approached me and said Rebecca, well, actually you approached me while I was still on maternity leave.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you were still on maternity leave, I still talked to him because actually, aside from what viewers and listeners might think, we are friends. Yeah, so you contacted me while I was on maternity leave and you phoned me and you Do, you want to do something crazy and do you want to bring your baby to London for an event that we're about to host?
Speaker 2:It wasn't like we needed a baby for the event.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, my partner and I both work for Class for Kids.
Speaker 1:So we were both going to the event. So, yes, stephen had asked do you want to come? And for some crazy reason we were like do you know what? Life doesn't stop because you have a baby or a child. You know, there's actually really funny photos of Noah and just his nappy in a pram in the middle of London and honestly, the stare in this wee boy's face is like what have my patients done to me? There was a point in that trip we were all not speaking to each other just because it was so hot, and I feel responsible for every part of it.
Speaker 1:But if any Scottish people are tuning in, I mean, you know that we are just not built for that kind of heat.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I am built for cold countries, like definitely Scandinavia, iceland. Get me there Anywhere, hot can't cope. But yeah, noah came to his first event club shoot with us and he was sitting on the gymnastic stuff and he was just having a great time. He really was.
Speaker 2:I mean, there was no interruptions at all from him, at all from him. He's very professional, very like his father and like his mother. Yes, so we went down to Harrow. And we went to Harrow because we ran quite a big competition with the Gather Over Twins. We did, and they are two Olympic gymnasts. We ran a masterclass competition to bring lots and lots of different kids from lots and lots of different gymnastics clubs.
Speaker 1:I think it was like 25, 30 kids there and you know what's crazy?
Speaker 2:We had 100% attendance. 100% of people that were going to come came. It doesn't sound like. I mean that just doesn't happen in the events world, particularly when people are coming from all over the country and they had to kind of arrange their own travel.
Speaker 1:That wasn't part of the prize was the travel, so it I think that was the real draw is that these kids could learn something, and it wasn't necessarily like a new skill, it was more aspiration, it was more holistic, like how do I get to that kind of elite level? Because, as the twins kind of mentioned and go into in this podcast, I think becoming that elite level was not a shock to them. But I don't think, you know, they necessarily expected it when it happened. And just to be on that kind of elite performance stage and doing those amazing things really inspired the kids. You could see them. They had question and answers which they submitted, so they were really engaged even before the event happened, right through and the whole entire event. And it was just lovely to see so many young people inspired and thinking about what could my future potentially hold and you know, if they put their mind to it, it could be anyone or any number of them that are part of the GB squad at an elite level.
Speaker 2:And that's what we're going for with this whole thing. I mean, that was the brief going into this. What the competition winners won was a masterclass with the Garderova Twins. There was meet and greets, there was autograph signings and then there was the Q&A and that is what we're about to go into. So we took the questions from the kids ahead of time so that Rebecca could kind of coordinate all this. We had Rebecca back on the. Is that cool?
Speaker 1:No, never again.
Speaker 2:Like the.
Speaker 1:DJ mics.
Speaker 2:Although my mics that I took didn't work, because Stephen forgot that radio mics don't tend to work when there is metal ceilings.
Speaker 1:I know it's hard to think of everything, so we'll let you off with that. It was a very good question and answer session and the girls were absolutely lovely to sit and talk to as well.
Speaker 2:Shall, we have a look at it.
Speaker 1:I think we should just go into it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Here is the Gather Over Twins with Rebecca.
Speaker 1:I think first of all, I want to say a massive well done to all of you for participating in the masterclass. It was really amazing, and obviously thank you to Jessica and Jennifer for coming along, so give yourselves a round of applause, everybody, well done. Now I know we've got loads of questions lined up. I've got loads of questions for you, so we're just going to run through a couple of questions with myself and then some of the questions that the lovely kids from the clubs have submitted. So, um, first of all, you're twins, you know you look very similar, so tell me a little bit about. Did one of you get into gymnastics first, because they're sort of the twins, the thing you know you're interested in similar things. Who got into it first, or did you both want to get into at at the same time?
Speaker 3:So we didn't really it's hard to say, because obviously we didn't see gymnastics to put ourselves in it. Our parents put us in a few different sports so we did different after-school clubs, different activities, but I think gymnastics was the one that was just more connected to us and we kind of express ourselves and burn the most energy out. But I think so we both just went at the same time. Even our other siblings did it as well. But I think for us, um, we kind of just got different skills at different times. So, um, we didn't both. We both started at the same time, but sometimes we'll both develop at a different time in gymnastics and do you think they're like?
Speaker 1:because obviously there's rivalry and there's competition in sport, which is healthy. Tell me a little bit about the sibling rivalry, like when you were seeing somebody progressing to that skill set that you were like I want to achieve that. How did that make you feel? And then how did you work to get yeah?
Speaker 3:definitely did occur. When one one of us got a skill before, it was like, oh okay, like I'm gonna try hard to get that, and there was definitely a competitiveness between one another to try and get skill first or do it even better. And yeah, definitely in the training aspect. But when it comes to competing, I think we just scrap all of that and just be there for one another and just be our biggest like fans and our number one supporters.
Speaker 1:I think that's really lovely to hear that. Yeah, when it comes to that kind of thing, it's just being there for each other and gently encouraging each other. And how many of you here kind of feel that when you're seeing your friends progressing in classes, but then when it comes to competitions or things like that, that actually you just want to be your friend's biggest cheerleader, kind of thing? Who feels like that here today as well? Do you want to just gently encourage your classmates and things like that as well? Um, I think you know. Obviously young people are here today and they're part of this master class and some of them will be thinking about how do I get into competitive gymnastics and how do I maybe start competing at you know, different competition levels, many of whom will already be doing that. So what's one piece of advice that you would give to the kids here today if they're looking to get you know beyond competition level, maybe competing for Team GB in the future, what would your one piece of advice be to the young people?
Speaker 3:I think it's a difficult one because it mainly comes from coaches, because, personally, we didn't know how to get to these competitions. But I think for yourself, as the athlete, you just got to work hard in training and do what your coaches are told. Or if you're really eager, like you can shout and tell them oh, can you watch this skill, tell me how I can improve and make the changes and the corrections that your coaches are telling you, and I think just being collaborative with your coach as well and and being eager to go for the skills or, um, do that extra, go to make it even better and perfect. So I think for that mainly, it comes from the coaches and, um, your coaches knows best and they also believe in you and know what you can do.
Speaker 1:So yeah, have faith in them listen to your coaches listen to your coaches with ego. You've heard it here first what to do and obviously you've been competing for Team GB. Can you tell us a little bit about what that experience was like, and can you describe what it was like to win a bronze medal?
Speaker 3:It's just an incredible experience. Obviously we came into senior ranks like we were quite young, so to have such a big experience quite young can be a bit daunting, which it was at first, but then, I think, over time, do more competitions, you gain the experience, you gain the confidence and I think the biggest help was having my sister like go through the journey with me and just experience all these incredible things like um, so many people like get into sports and you never know like what opportunities it comes and obviously it's given us a lot of opportunities and for so many of you guys as well, like you just do sport for fun but also you gain loads of friends, like experience and like discipline and life lessons. So I think just sport in general is just amazing thing to get into.
Speaker 1:There's a big community aspect to it then, yeah, and even when we went to the.
Speaker 3:Olympics we never really said, oh, we want to win a medal. We just literally took the opportunity and experience and ran with it and just enjoyed every single moment, even if we weren't having the best competition or it was in our day. We just were so grateful to be in that position. So we enjoyed it all.
Speaker 1:Well, massive well done. Obviously, you did achieve that medal, so you did something right anyway on the day. It did come with a shock, but we held it with pride. Good well, congratulations. And I'm sure you know you'd be absolutely delighted to go on to compete in things in the future. So, thinking about opportunities, what is next for the Gadrova Twins, where are you going to be going in the world of gymnastics and what are you hoping to achieve?
Speaker 3:So our main goal would be LA 2028 and I think just throughout that um cycle we want to do as many competitions as possible and make sure that we are the most fittest and strongest athlete we can be so you're going to be listening to your coaches then in?
Speaker 1:the next year wider team around us as well, good, okay, so we're going to move on to then the questions and that our young people have submitted. So the first question I have is from Epping Gymnastics Club. So I've got the children here from Epping hello hi, nice to see you. So the first question is how old were you when you decided that you wanted to start practicing for the Olympics, and how long did it take you from that point to get into the Olympics?
Speaker 3:That's a very good question. Um, I would say at what age? It's when? When we started gymnastics, we never really had the aim of actually going to gymnastics. We just did gymnastics for fun and because we loved it and because of that, and we didn't put much pressure on ourselves. It just the journey took itself and we ended up just getting there. I think at the age that we kind of realized we can make it and we have a chance of making the Olympics was probably 15 16, which is quite late. But then again we had the aim of just enjoying gymnastics, having fun and just seeing where it goes. It was until we made the GB squad. It's like wow, we're actually good gymnasts, like we're quite good at this and let's keep working hard and let's see where it takes us. And obviously it took us to the world championships, europeans and finally Olympics.
Speaker 1:Perfect. Thank you so much and hopefully that answers your question. Girls, the next question is from celebrate gymnastics. So do we have people hi nice to meet you both? Um, so the question from the girls there is what motivates you to do the conditioning? We find conditioning really hard, so what motivates you to do conditioning?
Speaker 3:I think what motivates, motivates us to do the condition is know that we're getting strong, and all the conditioning provided is they're going to help us to do the skills that we want to do in the future. It's all the hard times where it's hard, at the moment, but you will get strong and it'll give you the power, give you the strength to be able to do more difficult skills.
Speaker 1:So do you think perseverance would probably be a word to describe a lot of the things to do with gymnastics and just persevering and keeping on going with it? Yeah, definitely perfect, thank you. And Sleaford Gymnastics. So we got the girls from Sleaford, hi, nice to meet you, um. So we've got a couple of questions here. So first one is what was your? We made it moment.
Speaker 3:I think definitely getting selected for the Olympics, not even the Olympics itself, I think getting selected was like like wow, because obviously you have to do loads of competitions and trials just to be considered for the Olympics. So obviously we did a bunch of that. And then I think that time when we had the phone call and I remember myself personally we weren't quite sure if I was going to make the team or not because I was struggling with a bit of injuries, I didn't have the best competitions and I remember on the phone the performance director goes um and he was asking me like, oh, how do you feel like going to the Olympics? I was like, oh, it's an amazing like feeling and stuff. And then he was like, uh, how do you feel to be an olympian? And I was like what? And he was like you're gonna go to the olympics? And I was like that just like blew my mind and yeah, it's just incredible.
Speaker 1:I think it's one of those moments you'll kind of never forget where you were at the time when you had that phone call, or the feeling that it gave you yeah, definitely, and I think getting selected that meant we got to enjoy the experience at the Olympics.
Speaker 3:But I think then, to just top it like the cherry on top, was then standing on the podium as a team with Simone Biles and amazing gymnasts across the world must be a surreal experience when you've got people that you're looking up to in the world of gymnastics.
Speaker 1:Actually you're validated and you're standing there next to them because of your skill set as well. So this question is again from sleeper. This is a bit more of a personal question and it is, did you argue, much growing up we still argue now.
Speaker 3:So yes, we definitely do argue growing up and still do it now, I think that's just part of being siblings, so, isn't it?
Speaker 1:um so this next question is from a Basingstoke Gymnastics Club anybody, hi? Um, so this question is how do you deal with stress and how do you get over the fear of doing something?
Speaker 3:um, it can. Stress can come in different ways and I think, just being open and honest and speaking to whoever feels comfortable about it because holding it inside of you isn't going to make the situation better and people can't read your mind, so they're they won't be able to help you. So I think, um, speak up and be honest of how you feel and you'll get the help that you need. And what about getting over the fear of doing something? How would you? I?
Speaker 1:you'll get the help that you need and what about getting over the fear of doing something? How would you? I?
Speaker 3:think getting over the fear can be quite tough. I think, obviously speaking to your coaches, speaking to your teammates, asking for advice and help and, and I guess definitely going back to basics, like doing the skills properly before actually trying it, and asking for help because sometimes when you're scared of doing a skill, the coach might be able to support you. Or sometimes it's just, yeah, you can go back to the pit, go to a lower mat, lower beam, it just there's so many variations to overcome the fear. But sometimes it's also just giving a go, like just have that one go and you might shock yourself and it might just be better, and then the more you do it's better. So I guess just being brave, and then speaking up?
Speaker 1:perfect, thank you. And do we have um leeds gymnastics club with us? Perfect. I've got a note here from steven, who's our tech guy, and ask the girls in the audience if they have prepared a question. So do you have a question for jessica and jennifer? We're putting you on the spot. No, nothing you want to ask about skills or how they've got to the Olympics, anything like that. Yeah, so how have you recovered from injury and how do you find that like? What's your process to help with sort of conditioning and making sure that you're recovering well?
Speaker 3:so obviously we would have a team around us so S&C, coaches, physios so they'll provide us all the information that we need and see them to make sure that we're doing things correctly. But it's just giving it time to allow our bodies to heal and recover with good nutrition, good sleep and just over time you'll get back to where you need to be.
Speaker 1:There's so much that influences it, isn't it? It's not just the sport itself, it's like all these other bits around you know, coaches, nutrition like there's so much to consider.
Speaker 3:That's what I would definitely say keep up with your rehab, do all the exercise they're giving you, because those exercises can be hard and tough, but that's what's gonna help you overcome the injury and get back to do what you need to do and make you the fittest, strongest person that you can be?
Speaker 1:yeah, perfect, thank you. Thank you for your question um asg gymnastics. Do we have anybody hi nice to meet you at the back? Um? So the first or the question here I have, sorry, is what difficulties did you face growing up as siblings, training and living together in such close proximity? Are we outing? We're going to start outing things here, aren't we?
Speaker 3:yeah. No, I think sometimes it can be a lot when you go to school together, you go to gym together, you live in the same room, you live in the same house, so sometimes it can be quite a lot. But just know that you're basically having a best friend with you the whole time and we support one another as much as possible and if we're stuck on something, she will be there, the first person to help. And I think when it comes to training, sometimes it can be quite difficult when one person gets a skill before you, but it can also give you that motivation to know that if she can do it, I can also do it as well.
Speaker 1:Would you have anything to add to that, or do you think that kind of sums it up quite well?
Speaker 3:um, I definitely say it sums up, but then I guess it's also just being that second person and yes, like, yes, you have school. It just feels like sometimes you don't have any personal space but at the same time it, like she said, you have a best friend with you all the time and it's sometimes I feel very grateful to have my sister, because sometimes in the sport because it's an individual sport times can be lonely and sometimes you fall back and all that stuff. But having someone there 24-7 and you know they're not going anywhere just makes it even better.
Speaker 1:And they really understand the sport as well. I guess that helps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think understanding the sport and, yeah, they know you personally and they understand the sport. It helps even better rather than having siblings in different sports and trying to seek help but they're not quite sure how to help. So, yeah, there's very, so many pros and cons, but I guess the pros outweigh the cons?
Speaker 1:I think it's. Not everybody will have a sibling, right? So it's important that that community around you is really tight-knit as well, and I guess that they have other people that you can talk to, so that the girls were saying, whether it's coaches or friends, it's like having those people in the gym will understand gymnastics as much as you do so sometimes.
Speaker 3:Um they'll be there to lift you up and be your cheerleaders and um be open and honest with them how you feel when training is hard, but you got one another perfect thank you, and a couple moving into a couple final of questions, actually.
Speaker 1:So kenny's land gymnastics club. Do we have the girls here from kenny hi, nice to meet you? So we've got two questions. So the first one is from chloe, and chloe's question is what's one skill you found really hard at first but were so proud of when you finally got it?
Speaker 3:um, for me I would say two, so it sounds really basic, but literally an upstart handstand like you're saying, basic, I can't do that, so this is like this is even basic for me.
Speaker 3:It took me a really long time and um, just building that foundation and the basics were really hard to get over. But then as soon as I got it, the more I was getting better and other skills I was learning, and for me also as well, I would say, twisting was really difficult for me at one point where I would learn, try to learn, a double twist but never get the double. It would always be a one and three quarters. So it took a lot of patience and a lot of different drills to make sure I got there and as soon as it clicked sometimes it just does and been doing it ever- since.
Speaker 3:Well perfect, and for yourself um, I can't really think of a skill, but sometimes there are times where you get a skill and then you lose it and then it takes time to build back. So yeah, definitely, sometimes you can get a skill quick, but sometimes when you get too quick, it your like body, your brain, doesn't connect, so then you tend to lose it sometimes. So I guess it's just trusting yourself, believing, and just go with the flows of the skills.
Speaker 1:Thank you, so hopefully that answers your question. Chloe and then Alice had a question, and it is how have you coped with your injuries and what keeps you motivated to continue?
Speaker 3:It can be difficult knowing that you're injured and you see other athletes and gymnasts and competing or training while you're on the sidelines. But just know that there are so many gymnasts and athletes out there on the world stage that has many injuries and that what helps, motivates me as well knowing that if they can do it and they've been able to get through the hard times, then I'll be able to do the same things. It just takes patience and time. Would you add anything to that? Do you think? No, exactly what Jess said just time, patience, and if they can do it, I can do it Perfect.
Speaker 1:And then our final question is from Chichester Gymnastics Club. We've got people here from Chichester, hi, um, so this one kind of nods to the skill you were talking about.
Speaker 3:so how long can you both hold a handstand for? Um, yeah, over a minute. I'd probably say a minute, 10 maybe, but definitely over a minute we can hold a handstand for well, that rounds up all of our questions, hope.
Speaker 1:Hope everybody here had their question answered and you've learned a lot from Jessica and Jennifer, and there's things that you can take away and apply to your own classes and to your own relationships in the gym as well. So a huge thank you to everybody for being here today and again once more, thank you to Jessica and Jennifer for joining us.
Speaker 3:I would also like to add thank you guys, for having us and working so hard and listening and just doing your best.
Speaker 1:Well, a round of applause for everybody then. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:You've not lost it. Well, you've lost a bit. I mean, there was bits at the beginning that I thought you were going to kind of tail off. You do look at me at the end, if anybody is watching this, because I was going the goodie bags, uh-huh, and what did I do? And at the end you go, huh, that's such a classic Rebecca move. You go from kind of going like that.
Speaker 1:I think I just remember seeing you at the back of that room being like what's he saying now in my head, what have I done wrong?
Speaker 1:I know I think it was really great, um to do that event and I think gymnastics and working with gymnastics clubs is an industry that, um, it's important to us and we don't always get out to many events because, you know, in the dance space we go to loads of different events, we have loads of different partners in that space, but with gymnastics it's slightly different and actually to be able to get into the community, um, with a class for kids, sponsored and hosted event, was something really special and something that, you know, I don't think this time last year something necessarily that we would have been thinking about.
Speaker 1:So actually that's just opened, you know, the ideas of what we could potentially be doing with clubs in that industry and in the future as well, and I think it was a really successful event. And for me again, it just comes back to thinking about the when we were sort of in that viewing gallery above where the kids were doing their masterclass, just watching the parents, watching the coaches and how invested they were in the young people, just was really different to what I've seen before, I think yeah, we've had so much feedback from parents, from the gymnasts themselves, from the attending gymnasts and also from individual clubs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, it's just been. It seems like we've kind of hit a nice kind of little formula there. There isn't that many of these type events in the gymnastic space. As you say, dance we're all over, dance all over the UK, as you all know, because we're always and Ireland and Ireland and Ireland. Well done, oh goodness, the Golden Dance Awards. Ladies who listen to this frequently would not be happy with me for this, including us so thank you very much for that. But yeah, I think if it's not there, we just do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's it. It's like football is the same and I think gymnastics in particular. I know we were talking about this and not that anything's planned in yet, but potentially could we have a networking opportunity for Gymnastics Club. So if you are a Gymnastics Club and you are listening or watching, drop us a DM on our social channels and let us know what you think we should be doing in your space we'd love to talk to you on this, if you're available.
Speaker 2:We would, yeah, absolutely, but long may these continue and long may the reign of Rebecca and Stephen continue, and let's have less of that. Kate, kate, is that what you?
Speaker 1:call her. That's what her name is Caitlin, not Kate. Oh, you're her friend now we?
Speaker 2:her name is Caitlin, not Kate. No, what do you call her?
Speaker 1:oh, you're her friend, now we're friends.
Speaker 2:We're classes as friends. She's just off camera everybody. Yeah, she's a bit like not sure she's actually saying that she's not my friend. So, caitlin, her son's name. I was very good the two of you were very good on it and I liked the reference to me me as a house plant. Yes, I know, I think of.
Speaker 1:Well, I described you just off camera and off of audio recording as a cheese plant, because I always think a cheese plant I'm like that looks so cool okay and then any cheese plant that I've ever brought home has been a nightmare. To just keep alive, just like to be around and then not that I'm equating that entirely to you, but you are very stressful also to just keep alive, and that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1:You're a cactus Nuff said I actually accept that and I'm actually kind of proud of that. Stephen was just saying I was all. I wouldn't say boo to a goose.
Speaker 2:She arrived here many years ago now, back in 1923, with her little Hello, I'm Rebecca and I'm here to do some work. And now here she is, cactus-ing all over the place.
Speaker 1:I know I was literally shouting at him for being late to this podcast recording. For our listeners and our viewers. You were late. You didn't show up, stephen. It's on demand. It's on demand, but yes, it's great to be back to be in the podcast, good to have you.
Speaker 2:Great event, great interview. And one thing left to do that we've not done in six months. You do the countdown One, two, three, bye.
