68. Psychics, Mediums & Fairy Forts with Afterlife and Psychic Reader Sandie Byrne

Psychics, Mediums & Fairy Forts with Afterlife Communicator and Psychic Reader Sandie Byrne ~ In this captivating podcast, Irish psychic and medium Sandie Byrne shares her unique perspective on spirituality and her journey to embracing her gifts. Sandie discusses the essence of being a mystic, the cultural significance of fairy forts in Ireland, and her pivotal moment of realizing her abilities during her grandmother's funeral.

Sandie clarifies the differences between mediumship and psychic readings, emphasizing that while every medium is psychic, not every psychic is a medium. She shares her journey of building confidence in her psychic work and respecting her energy while navigating between the two.

The podcast explores the role of spirits in our lives. Sandie likens life to an exam where our decisions are evaluated in the spirit world. She shares a touching story illustrating how our earthly lenses are removed after passing, revealing the pure love beneath.

Looking to the future, Sandie discusses her aspirations to write a book and expand her teaching program for mediumship, focusing on helping others raise their vibration and self-love. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of being open to different beliefs and experiences, leaving listeners with a deeper understanding of the mystical world.

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Transcript

68. Psychics, Mediums & Fairy Forts with Afterlife and Psychic Reader Sandie Byrne

00:02 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I have, oh, I've been looking forward to today. I've been looking forward today, everyone. Today I have one of my favorite lightworkers with me because she has provided such insight to some actually like family wisdom and stories that I had not even known about. After my session with Sandie Byrne, I had to go and do some research with family members and say, does this mean anything to you? One of the things that she shared was something about an uncle, my godfather, that had passed and about what he did on Saturdays. Well, I was so young, he lived in a different state, so it really cultivated a lot of family conversations and I found that her work was not only powerful but connected, insightful, and it made me more curious about some of my family members and things that are happening around me. And even my grandma tapped in to talk about. 

01:04

You had initially asked me, you know, was I changing a room or was I organizing and using new colors? But I was actually changing my logo and my grandma commented on the colors of my new logo. So it just was like so refreshing to spend that time with you, sandy, and I am so honored that you're joining Together. We Seek today to really share your journey and kind of what brought you to the space. So thank you so much for joining us. 

01:31 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Oh, it's a pleasure to be here and I appreciate the advice. 

01:35 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Oh well, I have so many questions and so little time, so I'm going to jump right into it, sandy, and you can tell us along the way. But I basically prepared questions to not only get a guide of who you are but the work that you do, so you know before we get started, tell me a little bit about, like how do you define mystic? 

01:54 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

OK, well, mystic, I'll be honest with you, it's a word that I very seldom use and no offense, it's a word that you use more often, I think, in the States than we do here in Ireland, but I suppose to me mystical would be anything that's not of this earth. You know anything? I think people use the term woo-woo a lot more now, don't they? 

02:17 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Everything that's woo-woo. Yeah, I hear woo-woo, I hear lightworker, I hear spiritual guidance. I think mystics in the US are still have sort of a connotation that I don't think a lot of people lean into really, um, I suppose, like for me it's not necessarily a word that I would have used. 

02:38 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

I mean, I'm not somebody, I've done several courses over the years, but when I, when I learned to do mediumship, when I learned about spirit connection, I learned it from my grandmother and it wouldn't have been a word that was used, as we would say in Ireland, fadoe, fadoe. 

02:55

So way back when, the word mystic would never have been used. It was always just being connected, okay, you know, or talking to the dead, I suppose, for want of another expression or talking to the spirits, you know, they would have been like, I think here in Ireland people would have been very down to earth about it. You know, it wasn't anything that was mad or out of this world. Either you were connected or you weren't, you know, and that was the way it was seen. You weren't. You were connected or you weren't, you know, and and that was the way it was seen you weren't a light worker, you weren't spiritual, you weren't any of those things, you were just connected and that you know. That was it. So I guess to me mystical is just being connected to anything that is otherworldly you know that's so magical in its sense. 

03:42 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Yeah, because I feel like here in the states, and maybe throughout the world, we have people that listen from all over the world. I think the religions determine and predict how much we feel freely to talk about it, even if we're not really in a religion per se. Sometimes our upbringing of the other people that I've interviewed on this podcast is that many of us see our gifts so early in life, but some of us turn them off and something happens later in life and we turn them back on. So when did you recognize you had these gifts and did you lean into them from the beginning? 

04:19 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Okay, first of all and I know people use the word gift a lot I would call it an ability, because I don't do anything that anybody else can't do. Everybody has the ability to talk to spirit. It's just, it's like learning another language If you can learn Spanish, german, french, whatever, then you can learn to connect with spirit. It's just a different way of connecting and I suppose yes, because my family would have been very connected, or spiritual or mystical. You know, it was something that I just took for granted. You know, when you're little and a lot of children do this, okay, they see something, they feel something, they hear something, and but they just assume that everybody else can do it and kids just get on with their life and they go about their business. Okay, for me, the first time that I realized that not everybody saw what I saw was actually at my grandmother's funeral. I was very close to my grandmother and unfortunately, she was only 56 years old when she passed and I was only seven when she passed and I was actually with her in the hospital the day she passed and I didn't know what passed away had meant at seven years old. You know, and you know, back in those days we didn't have mobile phones and my mother had to go to the nurse's office to ring her brothers and sisters to tell them to come quickly. And so I was sitting there in the hospital holding my grandmother's hand while she was in bed. I thought she was asleep but at the same time she was standing beside me playing with my hair. Now you can see I have red curly hair, but when I was little it used to go right down my back and she used to love playing with my hair and plaiting my hair. And she was doing this and I was chatting to her and the nurse came in and she said who are you talking to, lovey? And I was like my grandmother and she just kind of looked at me and she went pale and she went away again. But then a few days later at the funeral we have funerals very quickly here in Ireland. Ok, if you pass today, you will be in the church tomorrow and you will be buried the day after. Ok, so we have the funerals very, very quickly. So at the funeral we had obviously the traditional Irish wake. 

06:26

So we went back to my grandparents' cottage after the burial and there was a few beverages had and you know everybody was reminiscing and getting upset and blah, blah, blah. I had five uncles that were like five big brothers to me. So when I saw one of them upset I knew something was wrong and I said what's wrong with Kevin? I said to my mother and she said, oh, he's just upset because nanny's gone to heaven to live with holy God. You know, catholic Ireland had to be holy God. So I said, no, she's over there sitting in the chair with granddad. And I could see her sitting, as she always did, on the arm of my granddad's chair with her arm around his shoulder, and everybody just went quiet, you know, and you could hear this, like in the room, and I, you know, I just thought, okay, I've said something wrong. 

07:14

So I stopped talking about it. But my mother was always great, you know. She always said you know, talk about it, tell people. You know. She said, don't be scared of it. But if I can go on to the second part of what you said about people hiding away from it, tell people, you know. She said, don't be scared of it. But if I can go on to the second part of what you said about people hiding away from it, for us it wasn't about religion, although, yes, I went to a convent school for 13 years. 

07:36

You know, my grandmother was extremely religious and I still have faith in the Catholic religion. But it wasn't that for me, it was a family bereavement when I was 15 years old that turned me away from spirit, because I lost my beloved granddad. And then 10 weeks later, kevin was killed in a motorcycle accident and he was only 31 years old. So I got angry with spirit because I thought, well, if you can't even look after us, you know, why should I do this for you? Why should I go out and read for people? Why should I read people's tea leaves? Why should I read spirit for people? Because you won't even look after me. So I was angry with spirit. So I just completely stopped talking to them. I just ignored them. Them, you know, and they don't like being ignored. I'm sure you understand this. You know, nobody likes being ignored spirit. They would come into the room, they would pull the duvet off the bed, they would knock things over, take pictures down off the wall. You know, all of this went on for ages and so when I reconnected with them was actually when I was in Germany. 

08:44

Okay, I worked in Germany when I was a teenager, in my late teens, about 17, 18. And I was out for a run one day and I was running along the road and it was a very quiet. It was Bavaria, it was the Weinstrasse If anybody's German that's listening, it's just like vineyards as far as the eye can see. And I was out running. I lived in a small little village and, um, this car passed and you know, I could feel the thump of the music. I was listening to Simon and Garfunkel on my very trendy 1990s headset with the orange foam. Do you remember those ones? 

09:19

And I was listening to Simon and Garfunkel. It was the only cassette I had. I'd forgotten all my other cassettes in Ireland and but I could feel the thudding of this car. You know when a car has really loud music and you can almost feel it thudding. And it went past and I can still see the faces. You know when something happens in slow motion. And these five guys in the car looked at me and I looked at them, but the car passed and it went and then I heard this voice that said run. And I thought, well, someone is making fun of me now because I am running. And I continued on and next, thing, I heard this run again and I was like, ok, what's going on here? And for a third time I just heard this run. As fast as you can. 

10:04

So, I ran and I hit and the car came back and these five guys got out of the car and they spread out and they were searching and I was hiding between two rows of vines and I had the arms scratched off me and everything and I waited there and they were searching for about 20 minutes and then they left. Okay, one of one of them called the others and he said they must, she must be gone. And they left and I waited for another 20 minutes and then I ran home through the fields, through the back way, so I wouldn't meet them again. But and you know, I think at 17 you don't necessarily appreciate that kind of an experience, it was a good. 

10:44

Few years later I read a story, in a magazine actually, about a girl in the US who had heard a similar voice and ignored it and she was kept for seven years by this guy. She had taken a lift from him in a truck and when she went to the bathroom, the washroom in the service station, she heard this voice telling her to climb out the window and run. And she didn't and he kept her for seven years and at that point I thought what would have happened to me if that hadn't happened. But anyway, long story short, that was my reconnection. So I thought, ok, well, spirits have helped me now. Ok, you know and I was understanding better at that point that this was Kevin's life path at 15. 

11:26 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

It's very hard to take that in, but at 17, 18, you're maturing a little bit and I understood that this was his path path and I really began reconnecting with spirit then from that age, um onwards like I need to just like let that end for a second because, like you started, we all have this inner voice that, listen, we've all overlooked it or we've paid attention to it, and I think many people have a story, you know where. They know that something told them to do something, and I feel like what a powerful story to remind us that we all have access to it and that that was your turning point to say you know what I'm going to lean into this. 

12:09

Oh, my gosh, oh, my heart is beating, so you know. Oh my gosh, oh, my heart is beating, so you know, oh my gosh. Well, you offer like two different services, which I honestly didn't know that people could pop back and forth. So you, you know, when I signed up for a reading, I was, I was sat there for a while thinking what should I do? Should I do a medium reading or should I do a psychic reading? I really didn't know, and I feel like I was guided then to do it. And it's funny because even when I did the reading with you, I didn't even know what to expect. I had no expectations, and a lot of the messages were for a lot of people around me too that never do this. I feel like I have the opportunity and really work to do this a lot. So can you tell us a little bit about the differences? And then, how do you prepare yourself or how do you move back and forth between the two? 

13:00 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Okay. So yes, I do both psychic and medium readings. And you know the same kind of goes that every psychic is, or every medium is a psychic, but not every psychic is a medium. So I would always say to somebody you know contact the person you're considering booking a reading for. Tell them what it is. Don't tell them who's in spirit or what's going on in your life, but tell them you know you have an issue in your life that you're looking for guidance on, or that you're looking for messages from spirit. And the easy way to tell the difference is this A psychic reads the living and a medium reads the dead. Okay, so the psychic will read you what's going on in your life, what's coming up in your future. The medium I always say just the medium just talks to people that are dead, that are dead. Okay, so spirit, okay. So that's the difference in a very easy broken down kind of a way. And you know, you know they are two very different energies. 

13:55

I started, I suppose, with my grandmother when I was very young, reading tea leaves. I suppose I was probably the party piece, you know, when you bring the five-year-old out and she's going to read your tea leaves because my grandmother read tea leaves. So I suppose when I was very young, I started more reading people's futures and then, as I very young, I started more reading people's futures and then, as I grew up, I started passing on messages from spirit for them. But they're two very different energies, ok, and you know, when I started out and I think a lot of people when they start out, they want to please everybody, they want to give everybody everything. And while I still want to do that, I have to honor my own energy, because there's a huge difference between connecting with somebody that's there in front of you You've got the vibration of their voice, you can see their aura, you know you've got all these things you can connect with or raising your vibration even higher to connecting to mediumship. So I prepared quite differently for both. 

14:49

Ok, the I do different kinds of meditations before each style of reading and everybody would have their own way. Every reader will have their own way of connecting and people often ask would you do both in one? And that's where I have to respect my own energy, because if you're going between one and the other, that's what exhausts a reader. If you can pick an energy and stay in it, like I can stay in spirit energy, I can do mediumship, you know, for as long as I can keep the spirit's energy here, or I can read you all day, but it's the going between the two that really exhausts a medium. Now, that said, sometimes when I'm reading somebody psychically, you know their family want to come in and talk and they want to give their opinion, okay. So I never rule out spirit coming in to give their opinion, because if they were opinionated here in life, they're opinionated in death. Okay, and they want you to know this. 

15:47 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

That is amazing. 

15:49 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Yeah, Always expect them to come through in a way that you will recognize them. 

15:55 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I just love that. I love it, and so I'm just going to repeat what you said and maybe you can help me a little bit. So psychics may or may not be mediums. 

16:08 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Yes, but all mediums are psychic. 

16:12 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

But all mediums are psychic, yes Interesting, and do you think people develop like? It seems like you developed mediumship or you you identified with mediumship first. Did you have to work on the psychic abilities or did those come pretty easily for you? 

16:28 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

No, I think I feel I had to push myself psychically more because with the mediumship it just it was second nature. Ok, and all children see spirit, because children talk about, you know, imaginary friends, and they talk about seeing things or knowing things or whatever. All children have it. But I suppose I was lucky in that, you know I came from generations of readers, was lucky in that, you know I came from generations of readers. So nobody said to me, you know you must have dreamt it or you know you must have seen a shadow or you know whatever. They understood what I was talking about. So it was just easy for me to do mediumship, whereas the confidence issue with the psychic work took a lot more from me, even though and if I show it like you know, like a ladder, if you're doing psychic readings, ok, you have to raise your energy from your everyday living energy up to psychic work, but past that to mediumship work. So theoretically the psychic stuff should be easier. So it really is a matter for me. It was a matter of confidence with the psychic work. So I had to push myself for that one. The mediumship just came. 

17:43

I know that that sounds very arrogant, doesn't it? When I say it like that because there's people out there and they're trying to develop. You know, but once you as the phrase you used earlier once you lean into it, once you relax into spirit, they will come, because they're only mad. You know, and I always referenced do you remember, the movie Ghost with Whoopi Goldberg and Patrick Swayze yeah, oh yeah. And once she made that first connection, everyone else just flooded in. And it's really like that, you know, once you make that first connection, everyone else just flooded in. And it's really like that, you know, once you make that, first connection. 

18:17 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Everything else happens, you know. And why do you think you know they say, you know, they say spirit, like they're going on, they're doing their own work, they're on the other side, you know, visiting and doing, but why? Why do you think they have such an interest in watching over us or sharing information with us? 

18:36 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Okay, so they and we all know that they do watch us. I just want to say hi to Sue. She just made a comment and she said that she had readings with me and she really enjoyed them. So that's such a sweet thing to say. Thank you, sue. 

18:47

So why do spirit watch us? Okay, the way I explain it is and bear with me think of life like an exam. Okay, you go through a lot of stuff, you learn, you act on things in life. When you go to the spirit world, you get the results of everything that you've done here. So if you think of life a bit like a test, okay, so every decision you make and I can use this example because somebody put it on a public forum there not too long ago so this gentleman was considering writing his son out of his will because of an argument that they'd had. Okay, so I said to him you know, think long and hard about it. Because when you get to the spirit world, hard about it. Because when you get to the spirit world, all the lenses that you view life through are gone and we view life when we're here, when I'm alive, I view life in a way that's based on my religious background. You know my family background. Anything that's happened to me you know throughout my life. Like I'd be scared now to go running in a very quiet place, you know after what happened when I was a teenager. So all of those things have given me different lenses that I view different situations through. 

19:57

And that man was viewing his situation with his son through a lens of anger. Someone had let him down previously. He was afraid that his son would do this and let him down, so he wanted to disinherit him. But I have no doubt that when that man goes to the spirit world, disinherit him. But I have no doubt that when that man goes to the spirit world he will see so clearly the love that he has for his son without the lens. And you know, had he disinherited him, that would be a regret that he would have to deal with in the spirit world. So he will watch his son. Okay, so I don't know, did he or didn't he? But if he did disinherit him, he will spend years afterwards watching his son to see the consequences of that decision that he made. So what he sees from the spirit world is like the results of the exam that he sat when he was alive. Does that make sense Very? 

20:49 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

much so, very much so. Energetically it does. I think people here are so driven by their ego on the planet that sometimes they don't realize that it's all energy and that it's the exchange it is oh gosh, that's so powerful. So they're interested in watching over us because they're looking to see how their decisions might have impact other people's lives or, and in some cases, guiding us, as you had said earlier absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 

21:17 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

I mean if you, if you imagine something that you've done, like you know, if I take maybe Ted Bundy as an example, you know the yeah, the, the murderer so I mean once he returns to spirit. 

21:30

Okay, and I'm not advocating for him, he did some terrible things, but once he returned to spirit, I have no doubt that he had an epiphany as soon as he arrived back in the spirit world, because everything that he did was as a result of a defect in the human body. In his case it was in his brain, how his brain brain was wired. Okay, we can call him mad, a psycho, whatever it is, but it was a defect in his human physical brain. Once he got back to spirit, he didn't have that defect. He didn't have that lens to view life through. So he would have been made aware in that instant of everything that he did and he will have to deal with the consequences. He would follow the families of those victims. He would follow his own family to see the consequences. He would follow the families of those victims. He would follow his own family to see the consequences of everything that he did. So it's like he's getting the results of the exam that he failed wow. 

22:23 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Well, it's interesting because I have, as I had mentioned before to you privately, that I have this place on Lake Erie, which is, you know, edgar Cayce talks about it, many people talk about it and the gentleman that built the house visits often and he greets me when I come. And there's a gentleman here that was on the Youngest Psychic he's older now, but when he was on the Youngest Psychic it was a TV show here. He actually lives really close to the property. So I had him come out and he said something very similar Like he's from the other side and he wants to turn this property, which actually divided his family apart in a lot of weird ways. But he wants to use the property for good and he is working in conjunction with me and many others to use it as a place for healing that would be amazing. 

23:12 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

You know, and you said it's on the lake right, it's on a lake and he comes often. 

23:17 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

He wants to know everyone I'm bringing to the house. He's very you know him and his and his wife actually has come to his assistant. That is, you know, wonderful. I love her so much and, um, you know, we always talk about Mr Brown. Mr Brown and Mrs Brown came and told the assistant who's really only into this, because I'm into this, you know is she had come to her and said I'm here too. And so I feel like they're working in combination to change the energy of that place into something so much bigger. And I believe it is because because it was for sale for 10 years. So I think it's because they're trying to kind of change the, the outcome of something they did here. 

23:58 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

So yeah, so he's trying to make amends for it. So he is now seeing things a lot clearer than he did when he was alive. Yeah, isn't it amazing the way that works. And I hope you know, and I'm sure you do, that you honor him like I always remember when my grandmother, when I was a little girl like, if you know, sometimes you hear a creak in the wall or the door might open or whatever she would always say come in and sit down, and she would put out a chair and she'd fill a mug with tea, you know, or she'd set a plate of food for the spirit coming in. So she said you have to acknowledge them and honor their presence. So she always set a place for them. 

24:36 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

You know that's so beautiful. I do, I do, but I'll do more. Like I always say hello to him, tell him who I'm bringing to the house while I'm bringing him, and I think he tries to talk to my daughter. My daughter has can hear things now and then, but you know, she's still just seeing how this all goes. So she's still young, she's still young, but, uh, it's really amazing. 

24:56

And so being in Ireland, oh my gosh, well, I, I'm just. I love that you explained the difference for us too between psychic and medium, um, medium readings, because for anybody who's going to look for Sandy all her links are below I highly encourage either of the readings. I did a medium reading and it was so powerful for me and like nine people in my family I've shared it with, so they've all benefited from it, because we had a sudden death and a lot of things that came through were so powerful. But you are in Ireland and I can't let you go without talking about these fairy forts that I hear so much about. So tell us about the fairy forts before you go. 

25:36 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

So, all dotted around the country, there are lots of what we call fairy forts, okay, so they're like little patches of vegetation, if you like. Sometimes it's like trees or hedgerows or whatever, generally in a circle, okay, and you will find that they could be in the middle of fields or that roads go around them because they're considered to be the entrance to the fairy world. Ok, so, fairies, leprechauns, you know that all these people live in there. Well, they don't live in there, but this is the entrance to their world and that if you disturb it there will be a lot of bad luck on you and your family. You know, and such is the belief around this, that actual motorways have been rerouted so that people will not disturb the fairy fort. Okay, there's one just in the field at the back of my house. I live in the countryside and you know, out my window here you can see a lovely castle in the field, but there's a fairy fort in front of it and there's lots of hunting that goes on around here, whether you agree with it or not, but there's lots of fox hunting that goes on in the countryside here, and last summer we saw one go into the field and I was watching it out the window and the fox, cute as a button, ran into the fairy fort. But the dogs wouldn't go in, or the horses, they wouldn't go into the fairy fort Isn't that amazing? And it's just like about three or four trees and then a lot of like overgrown grass and weeds and stuff, but they wouldn't go in there. 

27:09

And my great grandmother? She was a townie like me, okay. So I grew up in the town and she married a country boy. So she moved out to his farm after they got married and, um, she wanted to help. You know, the new wife wanted to help with the farm work. So as they cut the silage, um, back in those days they didn't have the machinery that they have now. 

27:29

So she went around with the ass and cart to collect all the silage from the side of the field, but she stayed there too long. He didn't, he forgot to tell her that this field was a fairy fort and she stayed there after dusk trying to get all the work finished and she was trapped in there overnight. She couldn't get out. So when you get trapped in there, literally you see a gate and you walk towards it and then it disappears. So it's like you're having a vision of the gate, but the fairies take it away. So they're saying, like you're in my space, I'm going to play with you a little bit, and she couldn't come out until the sun rose the following morning. She couldn't get the gate to get herself out and he couldn't either from the other side. So you know, and there's so many stories like of people, but if I could just tell you one more, I'm sorry if I'm talking for too long. I love it. 

28:22 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I was thinking of like a wood fort. I wasn't thinking that it was made by trees and vines. So the fact that you validated like wow yeah, do you? 

28:32 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Do you remember Michael J Fox movie Back to the Future? Yes, do you remember the car with the doors that went up, the DeLorean? Yes, so those cars were made in Belfast. Ok, that's where the factory was, here in Belfast. So obviously, after the film, the cars got like hugely popular and everybody wanted a DeLorean. After the film, the cars got like hugely popular and everybody wanted a DeLorean. So the gentleman needed to build a bigger factory, okay, so he had to clear a site to build this new factory and in clearing the site he destroyed a ferry fort and his look changed. We don't see DeLoreans on the road anymore, do we they? They're gone. 

29:14

His company went from up here to down there immediately after he got rid of the ferry fort. You know, yeah, and my husband, his family, are Irish, but he was born and raised in London, so I imported him back here. But he was working on a project some years back and it was a motorway project and the engineer that was running it was German. He thought, oh, you know, pish, all these, you know ferry forts. And he gave the instruction that the ferry fort was to be removed on the Monday morning because you know, it was holding up his job. It was going to cost more if they had to reroute around the ferry fort. So that gentleman died suddenly in his forts, in his car, on the sunday evening and nobody before would work the day before the ferry fort was due to be moved and nobody would touch the ferry fort. And that's why I say the road had to be um rerouted because nobody would work in on the patch land where the fairy fort was. 

30:15

Yeah, so this is fascinating. I don't know, would you call it superstition? Okay, I wouldn't believe in it. I, I wouldn't go into a fairy fort, I wouldn't. It's just bad luck. Yeah, you would not go into a fairy fort. No, definitely not. No, I've no, no graw to be trapped in there overnight. But I definitely don't need any bad luck in my life for sure. 

30:39 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

So that's interesting. So it's essentially. They call them over here. They would say portals, but we don't talk about them freely like this, and so they're basically designated areas where fairies, leprechauns and other spiritual energies go in and out of, and it's their door in and out. You really should not's their door in and out. You really should not use their door. 

30:54 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

That's exactly what a fairy fort is. Yes, it's the same thing, yeah. 

30:59 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Oh, so you've been, I mean this family, like it just amazes me just the history of your family and how each I feel like each version each generation has evolved in. And do you feel like you talk about your spirituality and the work that you do more freely than your mom and your grandma? Was it behind closed doors, or were they pretty fluid about the work that they did? 

31:24 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

I would say they probably didn't. I mean amongst the family, yes, but outside of that, um, probably not so much, if I'm honest. Because look, you're going back you know from. I mean, we're very multicultural here in Ireland now, but even if you go back to the 1990s, 1980s, like it was very, very catholic, like when I used to walk to school, you know, back in the in the 80s and 90s? Um, where I live, there's a huge cathedral and right across the road is the college where they used to train all the priests. So every morning when I was walking to school you could see a thousand fifteen hundred student priests processing across the road from the college to the cathedral for morning mass. Like this was very, very Catholic. 

32:05

You wouldn't have said that you talked to dead people you know, so I would say it wasn't something that they announced publicly, but my great-grandmother, my grandmother's mother, lived in a little village here in Ireland and, like she was an amazing person, she took children in from London during the war. You know, I would call them my granduncles, but we actually weren't related by blood. They just stayed with her after the war and she, like she, lived in a cottage in Irish countryside with no telephone or anything, and people used to queue up outside her door from six o'clock in the morning. So if people need you, they will be guided to you. 

32:47

That's the way I always feel about it, and I feel that people that need something find the amount of people that you know I read for that, say, you just came up on my Facebook feed or I just came across you on Instagram and I was just feeling like I needed something. So I do think that you will be guided, you know, in the direction. You know that you're needed. I mean, if people need advertisements in the olden days, I don't. I don't think that we need them now. Word of mouth is a lot more powerful than anything else, isn't it? So you know, yeah. 

33:20 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I love this. I honestly could talk to you for hours. I just, I just love your journey. I love the work you're doing and everything that you just really share is just so beautiful. So what is next for you? People listening. Thank you for everyone viewing live. If you have any questions, you can pop them in the chat, but I just wanted to say Sandy what is next for you on the horizon? 

33:41 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Oh, I don't know. Look, I started writing a book about three or four years ago and I have it all written. But I've always felt and this is my confidence issue again and I keep having to push myself, because I've pushed myself so much, I'll write another chapter, or I'll write a few pages. And now I'm thinking, who's going to want to read this? You know who will read this, and it's not necessarily about how to connect with spirit. It started out with writing about the family history and then so many people were asking me about it, I thought I'll write it down. And so now I'm kind of I'm wondering will I publish it? I'm thinking that I'm. 

34:29

You know, I have it in my heart that over the years, but I've really been developing my teaching program for teaching mediumship, um, and I'm incorporating the self-love part. Okay, because you know this, you can't raise your vibration if you don't love and trust and believe in yourself. So I'm adding that component into it. I'm I'm not Tony Robbins, I'm not Bob Proctor or anything, but you know I've done enough over the years to help people, you know, use it to raise their vibration, to love themselves more, and that's kind of what I'm working at for 2024. You know, I'm hoping maybe in 2025, I might get to travel a little bit more. I haven't traveled. I haven't been to the States since before COVID and I used to go twice every year for to do readings, but I just haven't been there since before COVID. So I'm thinking I really need to get back on the road, but, um, I just don't feel ready for it this year. You know, and I well when it comes. 

35:24 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Hopefully you'll stop over at this healing center if you come. It's outside of Cleveland. Ohio so yeah, I'd love to have you here oh, I will let you know when I make any arrangements. 

35:35

That's great and I can definitely help you with the publishing. But also Laura had said like if you just design any tours of maybe she's talking about the ferry sports you might have a following with that, because it really is amazing. I mean, oh my goodness, I just was the first I'm hearing about. I'm half Irish, half Italian and I've never heard of the fairy forts outside of. Just like working with you and preparing for this and I'm like tell me more and Laura's in County Mayo, so she's also in Ireland. 

36:08 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

I see she said she's in County Mayo, so she will be very, very familiar with fairy forts. And actually, funnily enough, I was actually only in Mayo last Friday, not necessarily not for work. I went to see there's a shrine in. Maybe some people call religion spirituality, but I was raised Catholic and I still have a belief in my faith. But last Friday it was Good Friday before Easter, yes, so I did go up to Mayo. 

36:32

There's a shrine, you know Our Lady appeared in Ireland back in 1879. And there's now a huge basilica, you know, erected on the well besides the small little parish church where she, where she appeared. So I mean, and to me that's spiritual and I know we can talk about religion I'm not here to push religion but to me there's a crossover because you know a figure of Our Lady and St Joseph appearing. Is that not just the same, as you know, any other dead person appearing Like? What's the difference? And I still don't get what the difference is and why it's considered by a lot of people such a sin, why it's considered by a lot of people such a sin. I'll probably never understand that, but personally I definitely see the see the crossovers uh with religion and spirit and what we call spirituality oh, yes, also a catholic girl I grew up, I definitely. 

37:22 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I mean I believe in the mothers. They come all the time for the work that I'm doing, uh, and God and Jesus, and I feel so blessed to have that alignment because for me that's like my North Star in a lot of ways, like for the work I'm doing. 

37:40 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Yeah. 

37:40 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Yeah. 

37:41 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

And you know, I think, if you don't believe in something, you believe in nothing. Ok, and I think you have to give everything its fair due. So, you know, you might not be religious, but don't disregard somebody else's beliefs, whether it's, you know, whether it's a different kind of religion, whether it's a spirituality, whatever it is, I think we have to be open to everything. And I think Steve Jobs you know the guy who started Apple, I think he was a great advocate for that. You know, did you? I'm sure you're familiar with the story of him and his deathbed and the vision that he had. You know his sister wrote the piece, I think, for the New York Times, and you know he's tried so many things in life. But it was that vision on his deathbed that really kind of, you know, opened the eyes of the rest of his family, thinking he was actually on to something here. 

38:28

So we have to give it, give everything their due. 

38:33 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

We do, we do, and whatever vehicle it takes to be a better version of yourself and aligned to the highest power and the purest light and the greatest like love. I'm for it. I feel like we all need guidance. We all need guidance down here. This is crazy down here. 

38:48 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

Yeah, and I think we have to have something to aim for too, because you'd wonder what's the point in life, okay, so at the moment I'm trying to lose weight, okay, and I've, I've ordered clothes the next size down. Okay, because it gives me something to aim for. And if I think, if I, if I had that belief and I'm not dissing people that do, but it wouldn't work for me to have that belief that there's nothing after death, well then, you know, what am I? What am I doing this for? Ok, why don't I just go out and steal money and, you know, kill people? You know, I really have this belief. It just works for me, and I think whatever works and makes you get out of bed every morning is a good thing, ok, so keep being you. 

39:37

I'd say to everybody just be you. You know, honor yourself and your ancestors in whatever way suits you and whatever way feels right for you. The one thing that I learned but it took me, you know, a a good number of years is just, you know, don't worry about what other people think. You know, and when we're young, when we're in our 20s and 30s, we do that so much. We worry about what other people think. 

40:03 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Once you get past that hurdle, everything is possible, everything you know. This has been amazing, amazing, honestly amazing and I'm going to take this. 

40:08 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

I could talk all day. 

40:10 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

I love it, I love it. You are a natural teacher and I feel like you know. Your words are so powerful, so thank you so much, Sandy, for joining us. I appreciate your wisdom, your insight and also the lessons, so thank you. 

40:23 - Sandie Byrne  (Guest)

It was my pleasure. Thank you for having me. 

40:25 - JJ DiGeronimo (Host)

Thank you, and thank you for everyone watching. We'll be back next week.