Episode 36

Gilbert talks about the 50th anniversary of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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Alright guys, and welcome back to the podcast. Um yeah, so I guess you can say spooky season is kind of over, but I do want to talk about another movie, um, other than Jaws, cause or should I say, like Jaws wasn't the only film that came out in 1975 that's having a 50th anniversary celebration. And yes, Jaws is an all-timer classic, nobody's gonna deny that. There is another classic, like I said, that came out in 1975, having its 50th anniversary uh celebration, and that movie is the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Now, I briefly kind of mentioned it when I was talking about it. Um, because if y'all need a refresher, um, you can either just go back to you know the recent episode, or if you're just hearing me for the first time, or you just you're just scrolling through episodes, and this is like the first one you find because it's probably the first one that you see that's like all the new released one. So let me explain. Um, Tim Curry, we all know, played it and uh or Pennywise is what they call it. But the real and I mean the real um character that everybody knows was Tim Curry, that they resonate with is Dr. Frankenfurter from the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Um that's the character everybody goes to when they think of uh Tim Curry. Because uh like the Rocky Horror Picture Show is definitely like I would say not the pinnacle, but it's like the start or in the early stages of of what I would call queer cinema. Um anybody that's like, you know, a member or a supporter of the LGBT plus community or LGBTQ plus community, um, just like given through you know recent um you know political times and stuff like that. But overall, if I just separate it as like a part of the queer cinema and stuff like that, I still see it as a really well-made film. Um, as someone who's not a huge fan of musicals and uh also somebody who is also not a huge fan of weird stuff. And this trust me, guys, there's a lot of weird stuff in this movie because like this movie is it's supposed to be like a B movie kind of. Um well, first of all, it's actually like it was based off of what what was it? It was based off of a stage production that also had Tim Curry on it. Tim Curry played Frankenfurter in the stage production, I believe two years prior, before they decided to make uh adaptation, a film adaptation of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Um But I think it's like no matter what, it's that character that like people are like, no matter what, they can't replace that that or they can't remake that movie because um Tim Curry is the only one that could play Frankenfurter, which is true. Like, like a lot, that's true. I mean, what what am I supposed to do? Deny that? I mean, because I mean, so so I'm not gonna talk about the plot of the film as some people might think I do. The reason being is because I haven't seen that movie in s like quite a long time. Um, and then not only that, I mean, I don't even know where I could find the movie yet, but I think it's there's just more than just talking about the plot of uh Rocky Horror Picture show. If you want to know, it's based it's like the parody of um what do you call uh Frankenstein. It's that Frankenstein like Frankenstein-esque story where it involves a what do you call a transvestite, a transvestite scientist, though I know nowadays transvestite is a very old term, um, but that's what that's what he is in the in the movie as well as in the stage adaptation. Frankensfurter is a transvestite um scientist who wants to create himself a husband. Um, and the witnesses are this couple named Brad and Janet, and yeah, and there's just a lot more to it than that. Um and why I I should talk about this now is not only because it's 50 years since the since the movie came out, and um, and like I said, I'm not politically on the queer side, but all that aside, um, the reason being why I'm talking about this now is because not too long ago Tim Curry came out with an interview. And if y'all don't know the full story, like I say, you if you want to go back to when I was talking about it, you can. And but just to save y'all some trouble of like trying to like you know skim through that part of the episode where it's like what do I do from here? Or not where do I go from here is what I meant to say. I'll just explain it again. Uh I think back in like the early 2010s or late 2000s, um, Tim Curry had, I believe, a stroke, and it left him um unable to walk, and he had a hard time speaking. And um through time, I mean he he just had to since then he's been wheelchair bound. He can barely move. I know I said he probably could walk the last episode. I fact check myself after that, and yeah, no, he can't. So if I if I made some false information there, I do apologize, especially for anything I said in the past. But you know, you're only given, you know, certain stories, sometimes never the full truth. But to my point, he just went in and did this interview and he's talking about like how, you know, he knows his time is coming. He's only I believe he's only 79 years old. He's about to be 80 uh next year. Hopefully, you know, he does turn 80. But um talks about like how he's not afraid of death, how he's he knows his time is coming. And that's always a a hard thing to talk about, just because like I've had family members who have passed, um, who have who've said like their times are are coming. I've lived a good life, and that's always that's a tough thing to hear, especially if like you've heard, like, you know, you've seen the guy's career from then on. You get what I mean? Because now we're uh we're like in that Christmas time where you're gonna see um, you know, Home Alone 2. I mean they're already airing it when I'm already by the time I'm recording this, and you know, he was in Home Alone 2, where he played what is it, the manager of the the plaza. Um, you know, that's owned by somebody that's uh in the news a lot more and will be in the news for quite a while. Um, but I mean he he is a very interesting actor. I wish you know he does more, but obviously given his condition that he uh he can't. Um and I guess for this first half, I'm probably just gonna talk about Tim Curry because why not? Um let me talk about actually when I met Tim Curry. And it was only for a brief two seconds. It was with my sister. So my older sister and I wanted to go to this event called Texas Fright Mare, which is still happening. And like I said, hopefully I can do uh Frightmare next year because next year is probably gonna be my last year doing conventions and stuff like that. Um again, just to save you all some trouble because I mentioned it while I'm planning on stopping that. Um I'm actually at the point where it's like I'm gonna start um putting my life back and getting in getting a great job and um finding uh the right person because you know none of that none of that comes cheap and neither do conventions. But uh my older sister and I decided we wanted to meet Tim Kirk because he was gonna be in Dallas, and my sisters, they do live in um Dallas, Texas. Um and we were just debating on what to do. And it came to the point where we decided just to do a photo op. And for the convention world, if y'all don't know, a photo op is just basically you're taking a photo with the um the celebrity by professional uh photographers, they just cost a lot more. Um, because if you ever like some like some famous people, they don't do uh photos uh at their booth, at their autograph booths. Some will say if you want a photo with that person, you have to you have to um do a a celebrity photo op. Which by the way, the cost it just depends on the person. I think Tim's was like a hundred dollars. I mean that's just I mean, just from like the irregular pricing, and I think it added on with the tax and stuff like that. But uh my sister and I were like, we I guess we gotta meet him, and um there he was, um wheelchair bound, but just l I mean he didn't he he didn't speak, but he just says hello to people with his eyes. It's like you know, you get what I mean? Like you don't have to say hello to somebody, you just give them that look of like hi. And I remember in line we saw this one girl who was like just in tears. Yeah what I mean? Because it's Tim Curry, but I guess it's also like seeing him in that condition. Um, but yeah, we were just like excited, we just took a photo with him and yeah, my let my sister let me keep the photo. Um I think um I think we made copies. I think we made copies. I I honestly do not remember, but um, but yeah. And then before that, I think maybe two years before that, there was another convention in San Antonio. Uh Tim Curry wasn't here for this one, but it was um Neil Campbell. And if y'all don't know who Nell Campbell is, Neil Campbell uh again appeared in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And well, I guess I'm making this about how I met some of the other actors too, but um, Nell Campbell played Columbia, who is a who is this who was described as a groupie in the in most of the stage production as well as in the movie. If y'all don't know what a groupie is, a groupie is a woman who likes to hang around with the artists and stuff like that, and does a lot more. Um and she's super fascinated with um Frankenfurter, but as well as with a guy named Eddie. So so there was uh Neil Campbell and then there was Patricia Quinn. Patricia Quinn played Mag Magenta. Is it Magenta or Magenta? I can never remember. But she played the sister of Rif Raff, who is um the butler and Magenta or Magenta, I believe, is um the uh the mate. Well they they label it here as domestic servant, but it's a mate. Um, yeah, um I decided, you know what, I'm just gonna take uh I'm gonna I'm not gonna because I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest with you guys, I'm never really a huge fan of this film. Like I said, I've it's been years since I've seen it. But I also was like, why not talk about it? You get what I mean? Even if I'm not a huge fan of this movie, it's still a classic, might as well just talk about it. But it was a it was a convention called um the Rockula Horror Expo, which only happened that that year. And um that was also the same year I met the great Tony Todd. I hold that photo of him to this day, man. Um, I haven't got him framed yet. I've like every time I got a new phone, I've always kept like passing that picture off to my to the current phone. So I gotta get that framed. And I have an autograph of him when he voiced Zoom in the flash. But um Rocket the Rockula Horror, I mean the Rockula Horror. Yo, the Rockula Horror Expo only happened that year. I wish it continued on, but I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but um it was them. I think Barry Boswick was supposed to be there, but I uh he postponed. He was at another convention this year, um, but I didn't get a chance to see him just because of uh money issues and stuff like that. But when I went there, I was like, you know what? My sister really, really loves the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Like she loves that. I'm gonna get some faux some autographs for her. So I got the autographs of Nell, and then I got the autograph from Patricia. Um, and then when Christmas time came around, I I framed them, I gave them to her. She was super excited about that. I also got her an autograph for uh of um Matthew Lillard. She really loves Matthew Lillard. I mean, who who doesn't love Matthew Lillard? I mean um Shaggy from Scooby-Doo, obviously Scream and um 13 Ghost. Um, what's the other one? What was the other one? Five Nights at Freddy's, yeah. Yeah, no, I got those autographs for my sister. Um, since it's like my final year is coming up, I'd figure, you know what? Uh, I think maybe next year, depending on what celebrities that my most of my family members like. I think I'm just gonna buy him some autographs, um, depending on how much I got in my accounts. Um, but yeah, because I say like it's probably gonna be my last year. And like I said, maybe like in 27 I might do because the Wonderland of America Mall in uh San Antonio, Texas does mini cons, but they're not big. Maybe I could do those in 27 to kind of accommodate for um, you know, 2020, the missing year when I couldn't do that because of COVID. Um, yeah, no, they were very interesting they were very cool to meet. I was called a good brother to my sister. I have two of them, by the way. Um, one has autographs, one doesn't. I mean, well, it's also kind of hard because like it's like what is she like? And then some of the stuff she does like isn't really like um actors who aren't there for those conventions. So I don't know, maybe. I mean, I could have done um what was it, Jason Isaacs who played Lucius Mousefoy, but man, Jason Isaacs was a hundred dollars just to meet him. And I was like, I don't have any more hundred dollar bills to spare for him because I still got other people I gotta meet. Um, um, like I said, Tim Curry um is a legend. I mean, he he if you grew up watching Nickelodeon's The Wild Thornberry, he was the dad from The Wild Thornberry, um, which I didn't even know. And he does he did a lot of uh voice acting, so give me a second. Actually, a little interesting fact, um, Tim Curry, before Mark Camill came along to play the Joker, Tim Curry was legit like the um like the first person, or maybe not the first person, but but um an alternative, and they were already g uh recording him for one episode of him playing the Joker. You could actually find that online, like you could literally find Tim Curry Joker, and yeah, and then Tim just couldn't do it, or I don't know the full story. I just know they couldn't uh Tim just wasn't there anymore, and then eventually Mark Hamill took over the role, and well the rest is history because Mark Hamel is a really good he's really good as a Joker, like you can't really it's like between him and Heath Ledger, you get what I mean? So give me a second here. So yeah, he was he was palpatine for I believe two seasons of the Star Wars The Clone Wars, the wild Thornberry, like I mentioned, Nigel Thornberry, and hold on, let's see. I know man, what's that one? Oh yeah, I forgot. He was Annie. What is it? It was like the brother of the foster mom, the evil foster mom. I think that's what his character was. Rooster, here you go. Yep, Rooster. He was Darkness and Legends. I have not seen that one, so if y'all seen it, let me know. Clue. And I think it's funny because it's like he plays that he plays Wadsworth in Clue. So he came out, yeah, he came out in Clue, and then he also came out in um Scary Movie 2, um, which I'm excited for. The sixth film, by the way. And uh, like we said, Home Alone 2, Long John Silver in the Muppets Treasure Island. Um, I've never seen any adaptation of that book. Um, if y'all don't know, that's a book uh by uh Robert Louis Stevenson, I believe. Hold on, give me a second. Yeah, Treasure Island, Robert Lewis Stevenson. I just know um because it's the same guy who wrote Dr. Jekyll and Mr. High, which is one of my favorite books, by the way. Um and it's funny because the Muppets did um what did they do? It was a Christmas curl, yeah. Yeah, uh, forgive me folks. I'm still trying to figure out what is it? The character was called Hexus. I remember that. Okay, so I'm just looking through his his uh bibliographer not bibliography. Um I'm just looking through his filmography. Dang, what is it called? What is it called? Oh, okay. I forgot that he did um what was it Fort in the Beauty and the Beast Christmas uh movie? Um I believe that was the organ, so but where is it? I know it's here. Yeah, here it is. Ferngelly The Last Rainforest. That's what I was looking for. Dude, that was a that was actually a very interesting film. Um, I don't even know how to describe it because I haven't seen that movie in like 20 years. Um yeah, Ferngeli, the last rainforest. He played Hexus, what is it? That uh it was like a smoke monster that wants to destroy the rainforest or something like that. But yeah, um, yeah, there was a lot of Tatum Curry's career. Um, and I guess it's like it's hard to imagine it and I'm saying this about any actor that's like that passes away or grows old. Like, I mean, I've been watching Lord of the Rings again because I love those films and and the Hobbit series, and then I've been watching people who haven't seen those movies on uh like reacting to them watching it for the first time on YouTube, and I just go back and I'm like, man, Ian McKellen is getting old. He's almost 90 and he's still planning on playing Gandalf again. Um, but dude, it's just hard sometimes to believe it. But um, I wish he could do more conventions. He probably does, but he's very limited from what I can tell, from what I believe. He's probably very limited just because of, you know, where his condition is. But um, but yeah, I mean Rocky War Pictures is actually a pretty interesting uh film if you haven't checked it out. Um, I recommend it. And uh yeah, um, we're gonna take a break right now, and and uh once we get back, we're gonna talk about more. Or we're actually gonna dive deep into um the Rocky War. Alright, and uh welcome back from break, everybody. Um, so anyway, I'm not gonna explain the plot of um Rocky Horror Picture Show. Um just because I think it's just a film you should rather check out for yourself rather than just me um butchering the plot, especially since I'm having I haven't seen it in such a long time. I mean, I don't even I think there are ways to find this film. Give me a second here. So yeah, it's on Hulu. I mean I should have checked it, I should have checked it out first. I don't know for how long it's only on Hulu when I'm recording this, but anyway, um I more of just want to talk about some of the songs and the impact of this film because um let's just start it off. Uh the guy who directed the film, Jim Char. Yeah, um the guy who directed the film Jim Charman. Um, I believe this was his very, very first film. Hold on. Oh, so yeah, it was an indie film, which is which is very surprising. I would I would have thought this was a big studio film. Um, but uh Jim Charman did the original production and then eventually decided to do the film. And and that's not surprising. And I'm not saying that like as if I know like Jim Charman or whatever. I'm saying some films um that have been adapted from something, as uh there have been times where like the person who either wrote the book, did the play or whatever, um decided to do a film adaptation of it. Uh Clive Barker, um, the guy who wrote the novel, the original novel, Candyman. And in case y'all didn't know this, Candyman was a novel, and he actually wasn't black in the novel. Um that's just something Clive uh Barker allowed when they were um when they were making the film, they wanted to Americanize it. Um, but yeah, no, he was uh he wasn't really black in the in the the book, I believe. But Clive Barker, I mean Clive Barker didn't wrote I mean didn't make the movie by the way. Um Clive Barker also wrote Hellraiser and he decided to do the film itself, and again he kind of Americanized it a bit more for uh a broader audience. Um so it's not surprising that some people would wanna like who've written their own books wanna make a their own film adaptation of it. And another interesting fact is that like um Richard O'Brien, who played Riff Raff in, I believe the play and the and in the movie, also uh co-created the film and he wrote the screenplay with Jim. So it's again not surprising. Um, so um again, it's also not surprising that you get like actors who've played uh characters in a play to reprise their roles in uh film adaptations of it. Um Joel Gray very famously for playing DMC and Cabaret, which I will eventually talk about uh later on in the season. Um just wait for that one. But uh Jim uh Joel Gray again played uh DMC and Cabaret, and then in the movie he played the character again. Um Joel Gray is the only guy who's ever won an Emmy and a Tony for playing the same character. And if your peaks are interested, you can look it up, or and if you want to wait, but I'm gonna be talking about it in February, but I will talk about Cabaret. Um anyway. Uh so again, it's not that surprising. Who else? I think um the actress who played Eponine in Les Miserables in one of the stage productions, um, also played again Eponine in the 2012 um production. I mean it's it's pretty common. Um I know what was it, Denzel Washington, when he did fences, the cast offenses that in the movie was the same cast offenses in the play, which Denzel Washington was a part of. Not the original production, but in a s but in a different production, he just had the same cast come back, probably except for like the sons. I don't I don't if I can think of, but um, but yeah. So so it's it's pretty common for that to happen. And like I said, like Tim Curry's the only guy we all know that can only play Tim um Franken Furter because that's Tim Curry's role. Literally, that was his role. It was written, I don't know if it was written for him, but I mean he played the character in the in the in the stage production, played the character in the well the film, and now everybody resonates with that character. Like, so if if in case y'all want to know, some people consider it a horror film. I don't, but I mean that's just me. And again, as a guy who doesn't really like musicals, um, it's got some kicking songs. The the two famous songs in that in that musical are literally back to back in the same part of the of the film. I'll just give you a little like brief um brief mention of the film. It shouldn't spoil too much in case your piques are interesting. But if you feel like he I don't want to listen to anything about it, you could either just end it from here or just fast forward a couple. I don't know how many minutes I'm gonna be talking about this, probably not even a lot. So maybe just like two minutes, three minutes, I don't know. But um this is where like our characters, Brad and Janet, are lost and they run into the um they see the mansion and their car broke down, and they're they're introduced by Riff Raf and um and uh Magenta and they're asking him like hey, like our car broke down and we need um you know we need some assistance and stuff like that. And during all of that, there's a party happening, uh a celebration, you will. And then that's when things start kicking off, because that's actually where the plot takes off. Um we are yes, we're introduced to our characters early on in the film because this is also a uh a dirt story film, and if y'all don't know what a dirt story film, a third story film or dirt story anything, is just basically when somebody's narrating the the entire plot of something. Um in this case it's a crematarian, I believe that's what you call him. Hold on, I don't know how to pronounce these things right. Um criminologist, which I believe is just somebody Criminologist? Uh Charles, let's just put it this way the guy who's who's directing the who's narrating the film is the actor. The actor's name is Charles Gray. So I believe so. I don't have to like say it's say this right. I'm just gonna say this Charles Gray is der is narrating the entire film. Um, especially. When it comes to this song, so they go into this celebration, and this is the time it's called Let's Do the Time Warp again. Or is it yeah, it's called the Time Warp. And that's like anytime you hear you think of Rocky Horror, you're gonna think of the time warp, and you're gonna think of this next song. The time warp is just like a dance number that everybody does. Um, but yeah, because it starts off with Riff going like it's astounding, time is fleeting, madness takes its toe. And that's I think as far as I can say, because I don't because I do not want to get copyright here. But um, yeah, um, it's just basically like it it it it's man, how do you describe it? I'm gonna have to go a little bit more. So sometimes you hear the criminologist or what what was the actor's name again? Charles Gray. He'll just go, it's a jump to the left, and then it cuts to like the the entire groove thing. Then you slide to the right, and then put your hands on your hip and put your knees in tight. And then again, I gotta control myself because I don't want to get copyright, but like what like once he's here, somebody start it off. Like I swear to you, if you go to a mall, just a some random mall, there's a chance a lot of people who might know what the Rocky Horror Picture is show is. You all you gotta do is just yell out, it's just a jump to the left, and I guarantee you 90% of the crowd is just gonna start doing the the time warp. Um, but yeah, but it it's like again, that's that song, like let's do the time warp again. And then it and then the next one where we're actually the next part, which is when we're actually introduced to Dr. Frankenfurter. Um, so we're actually introduced to Dr. Frankenfurter with this song called Sweet Transvestite. Again, that's just another banger in this entire uh like show movie. It's just basically like an introduction, like this is who we're gonna follow for pretty much the entire entirety of the film. Like who he is, like where he's from. Um he like literally the line goes, I'm just a sweet transvestite from transsexual transylvania. Again, some of these are very old terms nobody really uses anymore. And like I know it's like people like here, like this is some weird like if you haven't heard of this, if you've never seen it, it's weird. Like I said, and people love it because it's weird. Okay, like I said, queer cinema near before its peak, but um, it's just basically like I've kind of said it what it was basically a scientist who wants to create themselves a husband, and uh yeah. Um, another interesting song I kinda like in this film, and like if I was ever part of the stage production, one I can't be because I don't know how to sing. I mean, y'all kind of already had to suffer through that already. But there's a song that had um the leg grape meatloaf. Um, and I think it's called Okay, here it is. I it's called Hapatouti Bless My Soul. I really love rockin' roll. Uh the last part is just part of the song, but yeah, it's called Hapatouti Bless My Soul. Um, from a guy named Eddie, who's a delivery boy. Because like Meatloaf has the voice. He first of all, if you never heard of Meatloaf, um, really great singer. Um, he was a legend in rock and roll. He was actually at the same year at the same convention that I was at. Um, I think they had to cancel his panel because I think something happened. I think like he was he was about to sit down. I think the chair slipped out or something and he just fell. And they said like the can the panel is gonna be canceled just so you know he can recover, which he said like it wasn't really bad or anything. Like he was able to get up, but I guess it's just like given his age and stuff like that, they just wanted to make sure. But he said he was fine, but um, yeah, no, that that song's actually a really good good song. Um, but what I it it it gets weirder and weirder, the film, which is why another reason why I can never explain it, because how weird the plot gets more and more until you actually get to the very end of where they're actually from. Like if you've seen the movie, you know where they're from. It's like that one song, it's like I'm your new commander. But um, yeah, it like I said, it gets weirder, weirder, weirder. Again, this is why people love the film and the production. Like, I don't even think they care like how weird that this was gonna get. Come on, cause literally you just open up with a pair of lips. That's literally what you what you open up with in the film. It's just a pair of lips singing, um, welcome to what was what's the song called? Science fiction double feature, you know, welcome to the late night double feature, feature shoe. Yeah. Which I think if if I can be sure, I think it was um it was Jim Sharman who played Riff Rap that did the song, and then Patricia Quinn, it was Patricia Quinn who played Magenta, it was her lip. So it's still like they're still working together. That's still brother-sister dynamic, even though they're not brother or sister in real life, they're brother and sister in the film. It's still that dynamic working. Um, which by the way, guys, if case you want to know, it has nothing to do with Rocky, and um, because this movie came out a year before Rocky, and then obviously it was already a uh feature, it was already a stage production, so and stage box production came out before the movie, so obviously this was has nothing to do with Rocky, even though yes, there's a big muscular guy named Rocky in the production in the film. Um because like it it's mainly like um a parody of um the Frankenstein-esque kind of story, and you get you you do get some of those, um, especially a couple of years ago was what port things that came out. Um the port things majority of that usually just came from a 1927 film called um Metropolis. Metropolis. Yeah. Um, but that's what the um that's what it like most of what I can give you about the plot. But like I said, if you're but um if you're a fan of musicals, um, which I don't know how many people are nowadays, because again, I'm not a huge uh fan of musicals, neither is anybody else, but if you're a fan of weird stuff, this is definitely the movie for you because um like I said, this this whole thing is get it gets weirder and weirder and weirder and weirder. Because the only normal part about this whole thing is when we're introduced to Brad and Janet. Um, that's the only form of like normalcy we get. Because once when we enter the house of Frankenfurter, it's yeah, it ja get it just gets weird from there. Um, but again, people like it because it's weird, and I was into it because it's weird, and for some of the music as well. Um, but yeah, no, it's um plastic film, definitely gotta watch it. Um, I'm gonna take another break right now, and uh, we're gonna talk about more. Alright, guys, and uh welcome to the last segment of the podcast. Um, I I didn't realize that I was gonna be making this short, though. I'm gonna figure out how to expand so much because I I knew I was recording um today. I forgot what I was gonna talk about because I said I was gonna talk about Rocky Horror. And then when I was getting ready for today, I had a lot to do. And I was like, oh yeah, I was I was gonna record. What was I gonna record? Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. I did not prepare myself for this one. I mean, I thought I was gonna talk about so much because I talk like a lot, if you know what I mean. Um, the only thing I can say um is how I got introduced to this. Uh, honestly, I can't even remember that either. I think it's like maybe I was channel surfing. I was probably channel surfing, and I just saved the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And um, I don't know, I guess my like teenage mind thought I was gonna see some interesting things. Again, if you're a teenage boy, you you get the part the form of interesting things. And then I w and then I just pressed onto it. I think it just started too, but I think I was also watching something else. So I'm like, so I'm like literally flipping the channel back to back. And every time I go back to the Rocky Horror Picture show, I was like, well, I'm just like questioning what is going on here because it's starting to get weird. And I think like I just started from you know, um, what is it? Like literally from the time like actually I think I just continued on from the time warp and um you know three transvestite, and then I was just like, I don't know, I think I just kind of like fell out of this and I just I don't know, I think I just turned it off and I think I just I don't know what I did after that. I I do remember like getting intrigued, seeing this, and then after like the Sweet Transvestite, um I just didn't bother watching it again. And this was coming from a I think it was called like Fox Movie Channel or something like this. It's like something with uh direct TV that direct TV has it's like they would show classic movies um with uh no breaks and uncensored, um, if you will. Um the thing the thing is is that like I've totally forgotten so much about it until my sister uh was watch I think it was like a Halloween day. It was a Halloween day and they were showing it for 24 hours. It's it's one of those things where if you remember, it's like s like you know how like every year we get the Christmas story 24 hours from 7 p.m. Christmas Eve to 7 p.m. Christmas Day. So if you're Hispanic, uh you technically celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve, but um it was like that, but not really, because it wasn't a yearly thing. It was just like I think that year. So every time the movie ended, it starts right back up again because again it's on a loop. But um apparently my sister knew about the movie um long long before I ever knew about it. So I figure, you know what, I'll just watch it again, and then I got hooked, and then again, I rarely see too much of this, but um that's uh yeah, that's I think I th I thought it was very interesting, and then um, you know, I always think like who who who had a more you know feminine makeup, you know, Tim Curry or Joel Gray, because they're very two distinct different characters, but uh there are also two characters that are very uh openly sexual, mainly uh Frankenfurter because Joel Gray's MC wasn't as uh sexual as Alan Cummings uh MC in Cabaret, and like I said, I'll explain it a lot more on a future podcast, but um yeah, I've uh they've they've had some similarities, I'll tell you that. Um there was two I don't want to say remakes. Like I said, there's no there nobody could ever remake this film. Yeah, nobody could ever repa remake it because um you know it was made for Tim Curry. And that that same cannot really be said about it because they they already remade that film, and we got the the show still happening. Um, even though yes, it the 2017 was not a remake, it's technically a an original film adaptation. Well, not original film adaptation, it's the first film adaptation because the 1991 were that had Tim Curry as well, uh, was a miniseries, a two-parter. Anyway, to my point here. Um, so I know there was there was um not sequels, it's like Fox was doing um so every so often I think like Fox, NBC, um, anything else, they like to do uh live stage productions or live productions. Um basically what I mean is like Fox did Grease Live, or I think it had Vanessa Hutchins in the and as one of the characters, I don't know which one, and then NBC, you know, did the whiz and the sound of music and hairspray live in front of like you know, live with like multi-cameras and stuff like that. And every time they would go on break, it would just be like an intermission and stuff like that. So Fox did the Rocky Horror Picture show Let's Do the Time Warp Again, that I know that have Victoria Justice as Janet and Laverne Cox as uh Dr. Frankenfurter. And I don't know how long this um I don't know how long this production's been. So I don't know if Laverne Cox is the very first trans person to ever portray the character. Um in case y'all didn't know this, uh Laverne Cox is a trans actress. Uh I believe she came out in Orange is the New Black. I don't know what else she came out in, but like she was very, very big amongst um, you know, the LGBT community and the trans community and stuff like that. I haven't heard much from her in I don't know ever. But uh yeah, she she portrayed um Dr. Frankenfurter in the in in the um in the stage production. I want to see who else was there, so yeah. Yeah, Tim Curry did come back for this one. He he played the criminologist. The criminologist, you know. Uh Reef Carney played Riffraff, if y'all don't know. Um Reeve Carney, um, I used to watch a show called Penny Drefel that was it used to be on Netflix. I don't know where it's at now, but he played uh Dorian Gray in the show, and he was really, really good. Um Stas Stasnair played Rocky Horror. I know Staznair from what is it? Uh Supergirl, I believe that's what it was. Adam Lambert played Eddie. Uh Christina Million played Magenta Magenta, Anna Lay Asher was Columbia, um, Ryan McCartin was Brad Majors, and I think that's it. But um it was like like I said, it wasn't like a remake remake. This was just more of like um this is just more of like it was like a s a live television production. That's what I've been trying to call it. A live television production. It's pretty common. They do this a lot. Um, like like another one is like Jesus Christ Superstar that had John Lennon as Jesus. Um, yeah, it's just basic. Oh, it's directed by Kenny Ortega. That makes more sense. Um, nothing against Kenny Ortega. Kenny Ortega is a great director. I mean, he directed all the high school musical films. I know at one point he wanted to do Phantom of the Opera. I don't think he's ever said he was gonna complete this. I know Guillermo del Toro is doing his version, but that's not the musical, that's like I guess going with the book, but um, so there is that one, and then there was what is the other one called? There was this the live television production of Rocky Horror, and then during COVID, during the pandemic year, um, what is it called? I think it was a democratic conference. A democ yeah, I think it was a democratic conference, but obviously because of the lockdown, they couldn't obviously perform. So what they did was they did an entire Zoom um it was like an entire Zoom production. That's a weird thing to say. An entire Zoom production, but then there was like productions in the Zoom calls, and it's hard to say. Hold on, let's look it up real quick. So it's all right, here it is. It's called the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Uh it was a virtual fundraising event for the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. It was a live stream event that I'm just reading this off of Google. It's a live stream event for okay, called the Rocky Horror Pictures Rocky Horror Show Halloween. Okay, y'all gotta word this better. The live stream event caught the Rocky Horror Show Halloween live stream. Featured Tim Curry playing um re reprising his role as Tim as um Dr. Frankenfurter, though he can only say, you know, the lines, he couldn't really like do all the singing and the dancing and stuff like that. So let's see. I know who was it? Who was it? What was his name? David Arquette did Eddie. Um, and I know Neil Campbell came back as uh Columbia. Um, there's a lot to this. If you ever want to look it up, you can actually look it up. It's actually still online. Um let's see who else was in there. I think I saw Wilmer Vanderma playing uh Brad. Um and it's weird because it's like it's it's from because I just skimmed through it. I didn't see the whole thing. Um, all I remember was like there are times when like some of the actors would just be um speaking the lines and then somebody else would be singing um the songs. So it's it's not like Wilmer Vanderma was also singing, he was just doing Brad's part um when he's just talking to people. Because I think they had like a different um person. They had like multiple I think they had multiple different people singing um uh Dr. Frankenfurter's part. So hold on. Oh, here it is. So obviously Frankenfurter, Tim Curry, Columbia, Bell Campbell, uh Riff Raff. Seth oh, yeah, I remember that. Okay, so Seth Green and Rosario Dotson played Riff Raff and Magenta, Mom of Vanderma, Colleen Ballinger. I don't know who that is. Lance Bass is Rocky. That's a very weird one. Um Jason Alexander, who played The Chrymologist, Eddie, like I mentioned, who did um, who played um like I like I said earlier, David Arquette played Eddie. And then the music was I'm just reading off this list here Fallout Boy, Bob Weir and Wolf Bros. Don't know who that is. Mike McCready of Pearl Jam. I know Pearl Drem, but I mainly know um Eddie Vetter because Eddie Vedder is the front man at Pearl Jam. The Dresden Dolls, don't know who they are. Miss Peppermint and Frankie Grande. I know who Frankie Grande is. Um that is uh Ariana Grande's uh brother, if y'all didn't know. Aiza Gonzalez, Ben Barnes. I I think I know who Aiza Gonzalez is, I know who Ben Barnes is. Jenna Ushkowitz, don't know. Rachel Bloom, I think I know who that is. Garrett Clayton, Karen Olivo, Keila Setto, Marissa Jarrett Winkler, Madison Uphoff, Graham Phillips, Kelleen Chase, and Rumor Willis. The rest I don't know. Um like the the ones I just called out after Ben Barnes, I've never heard of, but I think they were just the sinking they're the singing part of um of um the production. Yeah, but I I remember seeing like Seth Green as um as Riffraff and uh Rosario Dawson as Magenta, and it's it is it was weird because it's like doing Zoom calls like like if y'all have ever heard me and Jesus um before we before I even edit this thing down, before Rishi ever edits these things out, we've had hard times. Like we've had to wait seconds for one to communicate with the other. And like again, if you know about Zoom, if you know like connection is very, very important. Sometimes it's weird, it's like we're used to the same beats. If we've if for those who have seen the movie, we're all used to the same beat as um the Rocky Horror Picture Show. If you can get what I mean by beat, I don't mean like the beat of the music. I mean the beat as in like the breaks and the rest between one person and another person when it comes to one when it comes to a line. Basically, what I mean is like we're used to the moment when um Riff Ras speaks and then when Magenta speaks and then when Brad speaks, we're used to those little small moments. With Zoom, it's different because we gotta wait for a longer time for that other person to speak. So it's like we're waiting 10 seconds for Rosario Dawson to say he's lucky, she's lucky, we're all lucky somewhere around there. It's been a long time since I've touched on the Rocky Horror picture show. But um, yeah, I know Glee probably did one, but I I've never seen Glee, so I can't really know for sure. But um, it does have an impact. I remember um I was watching Rob Zombies Halloween 2 a long time ago, and the Lori Strode of that film, her and her two friends were playing, like or not playing, they were dressed up as um the characters. So Lori Strode, um, who this one was played by Scott Taylor Compton, was uh she was dressed up as Magenta, and then her two friends were dressed as Frankenfurter and uh Columbia. Um, but yeah, it's uh if you ever want to check it out, I mean, like I said, I saw it on you uh not YouTube Hulu, the film. I don't know if where you can see um where you can see the Laverne Cox version, it's pri I think I saw it on Amazon for $9.99. Um, do me a favor, just don't spend your money, you just watch clips of it on YouTube. Um, and then if you ever get interested in watching the um the what was it, the zoom meeting, which uh like I said, the guys, I just skimmed through that, but it was a slock, even just watching a little bit of it because it was a zoom call. Um, it wasn't even like for like because I I I think it wasn't really for um I guess like Joe Biden or whatever or whoever was running for the it wasn't like the like supporting Joe Biden or whatever, it was just basically like a fundraiser. Um, but um, like I said, you y'all should definitely check it out. It's a classic. Um it's like I I I would love to meet Tim Curry again, but I I know that that's never gonna happen. The one time is just the one time, and it was only like a couple of seconds, but uh I still cherish those couple of seconds. But um, yeah. Uh man, it's it's tough, especially when you when Tim Curry says he knows like his time is coming. But when that day comes, I'll definitely be mentioning it. Um, other than that, you guys have uh you guys are great. You've been a great audience. Have a good night, day, morning, whenever you listen to this. Uh signing off.