Episode 42

Gilbert gives his thoughts on the first season of Welcome to Derry and the final season of Stranger Things. He also gives his thoughts about the fute of cinema and movie theaters. 

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Alright guys, and uh welcome back to the podcast. Um today we're talking about two things. We're talking about two shows where if you were, I guess like sitting around for two weeks um from like the week after Thanksgiving, also the week of Thanksgiving, and um you just sit you just sit around and you think, so should I watch the show about the monster that's attacking children? Or do I watch the other show about the monster that's attacking children? And then you decide to go with whichever show that involves a monster attacking children. None of that's my joke. Um uh, somebody made that joke. I forgot his name. Um, like I never saved the the post that I saw. So by any chance, if you're listening to this, just tell me your name, just reach it out at Tough Love Pictures. Um, but we're gonna talk about two shows today, kind of very similar, but not entirely. So I'm gonna talk about, and I swore I wasn't gonna talk about this at all, but the fact that I need content and the fact that I actually enjoyed the show a lot more than the other show uh says a lot. So what I'm talking about first is the first season of Welcome to Dairy, and then eventually I'm gonna talk about um the final season of um Stranger Things. So again, hence, you know, either show about a monster that's attacking children. Um, but yeah, um if I can recollect my thoughts, because it's been a I have not kept um not caught up with Welcome to Dairy, but um I haven't like rewatched um the entire first season because I r I rarely do this or I'll I hardly ever do this really. Sometimes when I watch a show, especially like like from the streaming platform, I don't re-watch it. Um mostly because like um I guess because I liked it the first time around, I think I feel like I would be turned off if I watch it again. Or, you know, I'm waiting for all the seasons to come out that way I can actually binge watch it from start to finish. Um because I feel like if I did it was Welcome to Dairy, it would whenever it ends, I think it ends at like 2028. Um or 29, it just depends on how HBO Max is gonna um continue with the show. But it's it would be easier with Welcome to Dairy given that these the episodes are way less than an hour, like between 40 minutes to an hour, 45 the most. Um, but it was Stranger Things. I don't remember too much about the first uh season. Maybe like the first two seasons, they're um the episodes are like an hour, maybe a little bit over an hour. Again, I I have to 100% catch up with it, or not catch up with it, but um uh rewatch it now that I actually have a chance. I think that is that uh rewatching Stranger Things is gonna become a chore because eventually from especially the fourth and the fifth season, it every episode comes to like almost a 90-minute movie, especially the final episodes which become two-hour movies itself. Hell the final ever episode of Stranger Things came out in theaters on well what was it, uh New Year's Eve, though. Yeah, um, let's first talk about Welcome to Dairy because I think I'm gonna enjoy talking about this a lot more. Then I say that and then I look at the time and it says like I've only recorded for like 12 minutes, but I'll see if how how much I can talk as well as extend the time and continue to talk and or at least have y'all engaged. Because I yeah, I am gonna talk about the two shows. I'm also gonna talk about something else after I talk about Stranger Things, and it's something that's very important to me, but um, maybe I don't have to talk too too too much. Uh but um let's see. So, welcome to Dairy. I've I've already talked about it. I I did the whole our Halloween episode was about it. I've mentioned Tim Curry multiple times on this podcast already. So as I said before, um first time I ever heard of seeing it, the original 1990, I was scared out of my mind. Um it still frightens me, but not too much. Like when you look at when I see it on the filmmaking aspect of it, especially as I mentioned before, how Tim Carey's pennywise, he looks directly at you and he says, I'll kill you all. No, not at you, but like at the camera, but it makes it feel like he's looking at you. Or especially when he's like capturing Audro with uh the deadlights and he's just staring at you with those shiny lights. Like all of that, that's um, yeah, that's that was creepy. And I mean the poster creeped me out too. I mean, with that smile when he's looking at the camera and his hands are just so misshapen. Um, but yeah, um, but the thing that I never knew about because I never read the book at that time, I don't even know it was a book, or that Stephen King uh wrote the book, was that it the clown, like Pennywise the Clown, is not what it is, which is what Welcome the Dairy goes back to. Um it is a cosmic entity that's been around before time, and eventually when it came to Earth, it would um it would like take the form of things that people feared, and eventually like it would take the form of the clown because at a time there was a time when kids were actually afraid of clowns, and like I said, I'm not really afraid of clowns, I'm afraid of scary ass clowns. You get what I mean? Clowns that don't look normal, like no, I'm not I'm not dealing with that. Um, but the thing though is that the show, the the original 1990 miniseries, went too inde went or they mainly stuck with the clown or the spider. Um majority, yeah, it was the clown, but in the book, the clown isn't as prominent as people think. And then when you go to the Andy Muschetti uh movies, which is uh share the same universe as um Welcome to Dairy, um, yeah, clown's still a lot more prominent there. I mean, there it does show you that like what this thing is takes fear or takes the form of fear, but it goes a lot too more into it in um uh Welcome to Dairy, where you know we don't see Pennywise until what I think like the fifth episode of the show. Um, because I think there's like eight of them. Probably I think somewhere around there. And to me, Welcome to Dairy uh makes up for how um I guess I wouldn't say bad, like how you know uh they treated Pennywise like the character as well as the um what was it, the IP, has what how they treated that in the second film, which is not favorable amongst people, they redeemed it with Welcome to Dairy, because remember, Welcome to Dairy um more focuses on what it is or like the certain chapters of um uh the book um it. So this one focused a lot more on the black spot murder, but goes way deep into it. Now, if you've never seen the show, there's I'm already giving out some spoilers, but if you've also never read the book, um or seen the show, here here's some spoilers if you want to know. But um in the book, I mean there's segments where it talks about how, you know, all the events that happened in Derry, and one of them being the Black Spot murder, which is uh supposed to be a spot for airmen, black airmen, as well as black citizens of Derry. And then it was destroyed by a hate crime of uh uh white nationalists, and um just saying white nationalists makes me sound like uh a woke person. I'm definitely not, but um, but that was what the book says in Dick Howlron, Dick Howron from The Shining, because remember, um, all supposedly all the stories of Stephen King, especially the uh the dramatic ones like Shaw Shank, the Green Mile, uh Stand By Me, they all share the same universe. And Dick Howron, as we know, was the the cook who was who also has psychic abilities in The Shining. And when he knew about the fire that was happening, he used his shine to uh help save a lot of the um the folks that were in that fire, and then um he eventually does save my Cannon's dad. And um, yeah, uh that's pretty much how it was. It was literally like I think a page or two of um that story. Um, but they they extended it a lot more, adding more uh depths and layers to Dick Howron, the character. And I know there was like a long time ago, there there used to be talks of a Dick Howron show or a Dick Howron movie. After seeing Chris Shock's performance and just seeing how, you know, people really, really loved the the character in that show. I think it's time to actually go back to that drawing board and give us more. I mean, because you rarely saw Dick Howron and the Shining, the um the Stanley Kubrick one. I haven't seen the uh the other uh Shining, the um the mini-series that Stephen King was heavily involved with because he didn't really like the the Stanley Kubrick adaptation. And obviously uh Dick Howron and Dr. Sleep was just reduced to an illusion or, you know, an entity that's now with Danny or a memory with Danny, because um, you know, given given Dr. Sleep takes place after the events of The Shining. For the record, I think Dr. Sleep actually might be my favorite Stephen King adaptation, but um I don't know, we'll see. Uh it was either that or the Green Mile, but um so was that um the the howron performance by Chris Chalk was so great. Um, and then you know there's there are these kids. Now, like I said, when I because when I talked about it, I mean when I recorded the show, I mean when I recorded the episode about it so I could get ready for my Halloween uh episode, um the first uh the first episode of Welcome to Dairy came out, and we're like, okay, so we got this new set of losers clubs, and half the set died in the first episode. And I'm like, what the heck is going on? Because uh Andrew Muschetti is going back to the drawing board of remembering that it um is not Pennywise or Pennywise is not it, well vice versa. It is an entity that is not human, and people can only associate it with the face of Pennywise, with whether Tim Curry's or uh Bill Skarsgard. And Bill Skarsgard, I feel like he puts he makes Pennywise a lot more menacing here than he did in I think just the second film. The first film he was very menacing, but the second film, bro, I don't know, like given the fact that it's a different medium, but um you're given more chances to play the character, dude. He actually he actually did it really well. I mean, if we would separate it, like the Pennywise of the night of the movies specifically, even though they're both played by Bill Scarskard, but how he's how he is in the movie is in third place. How Tim Curry performs the character in the in the miniseries is in second place, but how Bill Scarsgard comes back to it and reportrays Pennywise, but in this show, that's that's that beats the cake. I mean, I'll always stand with uh Tim Curry's Pennywise. But um, yeah, no, this new set of uh of um I guess you can't really say Losers Club is it because it's not losers club, even though like we eventually found out the the March character um would eventually become like the the mother of Richie Tozier. And that final episode, because that used to be a kind of a theory in the beginning, but then when the final episode showed where Pennywise reveals that she is the mother of Richie Tozier, you're I'm just thinking like, wait, how does he know that? And then it's eventually you realize that this is a being, a cosmic being, celestial being, probably. Think about beings like angels, even God himself in in mythology in different mythologies as well. Time is irrelevant and they live outside of time. So it's like he he it's like it's weird to say, it's like he lives both in past and present, like omnipresence almost. Um, so like he knows like oh I'm gonna eventually die in about what was it, almost 60 years. And yeah, so I think what the purpose of the show is is basically again making up for how people felt about the second movie. Because remember, in the second movie, um, the only way to stop Pennywise, and I didn't write the rules, guys. Um, the only way to stop Pennywise was to bully him to pretty much nothing and then grab his heart and just squish it. Um I am gonna talk about something like that similar when I go to Stranger Things, and I think you guys know what I'm gonna talk about. But yeah, so but the character, the performances of the characters are so great uh in the shows. Um especially um I'm trying to remember her name right now. Not not the not the actress, but the well not just the actress, but the characters. So I'm gonna check out the character list, which while I'm looking, um, when y'all saw the show, did the theme song get to your head? Because the theme song got in my head. All right. So obviously, yeah, we got Marge as a character, Decalron, um, Will Hanlon, and uh, let's see. So obviously the other Hanlons, uh Charlotte and Leroy, um, we eventually see like how and it's weird. The the only thing that ever threw me off about that is that like given how come the adults like Leroy or even Marge um not mention it, not mention this to um you know their kids. Well, I mean, yes, eventually, like when it controls the town and when it gets older and when kids get older, they um they tend to forget the stuff, and but it only works if they leave the town of Derry, because if they leave dairy, they forget what has happened. Well, uh well, I mean, with Will, it's different because if you know the story with the Muschetti editation, well and maybe Ronnie, we don't know for sure if Ronnie does become the mother of Mike Hanlon, or maybe we'll find somebody else. But what we do know is Will does die. Um it like it's been established in the first movie that Will dies. Now, I do know something. Will Hanlon in the book does die, but he dies when Mike is a lot older. And they talk about how they shared a similar uh encounter uh was it when it took the form of a giant bird. Um that's that's something I remember see uh reading in the the book. Um, so who else is in there? Okay, Lily. The character play the girl played Lily. First of all, props to her because the way like she portrays having to play, well, what is it, like an 11, 12 year old girl that's super not psychotic. Like you she's been through hell is what I meant to say. Even before the events of Pennywise, she's been through hell because it's it'd been implied that her dad was working at a pickle factory. And then if you hated pickles, guys, I think you're gonna hate the pickles even more. I love pickles, by the way, but um, well, my kid, uh I don't not my real kid, but she can't stand pickles. And I'll I'll talk about that a lot more um when uh when I get to my uh Stranger Things episode. But um, but yeah, like with her dad, what was it, getting chopped up into bits and then his body stuffed in pickle jars? Dude, that's just like they don't show that, but they well, they kind of show that. But just her mentioning it, just like, oh gosh, that's that's a terrible way to die. And then um Richie. I loved Richie, man. It's maybe because he was Cuban. I'm not Cuban, I'm a span I'm I'm Mexican, but I'm but um dude, that character, like I love drums, I play drums, he played drums. When he died, I was like, god damn it. I'm sorry. When he died, I was like, Darn it, man, are you kidding me? Like you're gonna kill this kid off that people really love. And then it's funny when we well, like his spirit went to go help the kids retrap Pennywise, then he just flicks Pennywise off. It's funny. Which also gives me to something else. I mean, one of the big criticisms I have about the show, and it's kind of the same thing with um when I get the stranger things, but it's the military, uh it's the military um like story behind it. It never made sense. And it's it's it sucks because you get two great all-time actors, both playing military leaders, both like are sh would be a shame or would um put shame on the uniform they they put on, because my dad was a big military guy, and if he saw people that would act like this, he'd probably be like, You put shame on our country if you're wearing that uniform and doing things for evil. But to my point, these two characters that were played by two great um acting icons, uh, one from Welcome to Dare and the other from Stranger Things was James Reimer, or I hear Remar, I think that's how you say his name. First of all, I met James Reimer, he is such a nice guy, like such a great guy. And this was before I even started binge watching Dexter, because I knew James Remar from The Warriors, um, as I think a lot of people do. And if you never knew, James James Remar guards start from a movie called The Warriors, which is um the movie I think I want to uh tackle one of these days. But it's uh it's a very it's a really great movie. It's one of those like low budget films uh back in the 70s that it takes place all in one night. And um, yeah, I don't want to spoil it for you because I think it's a really great film y'all should check out. But that's how I remember James is from Warriors. I also met um was it Michael Beck and um who played Swan the Leader. Um and and I forgot. Let me let me look it up because it was I think it was Michael Beck, um, James Remar, and who was the girl? Hold on. Yeah, Mercy, Deborah Van Waggenberg from from uh yeah, the Warriors who played Mercy. I met those guys again, really, really great folks, really, really cool and awesome folks. Um, but of all the the cast of the Warriors, James Remar seems to be the one that what's the word? He has he has uh he's been a lot more. Um, I mean, give it again was Dexter, uh Black Lightning that came out not too long ago. Um, again, uh Welcome to Derry. He he also came out in Gosham, which is an autograph I have for him. Uh now I kind of wish it was Ajax from um The Warriors, and then obviously this show, but he's done a lot. Um he's done a lot of movies and television. He's the most like I think he's he's like the only cast member that we know really loves acting because everybody else is either retired or they just don't do a lot of um big projects. But to my point, James Rimar, I didn't really like his character much in this movie. Um, because it never made sense. The the military wants to capture it. At first it's believed they they want to capture it to win the Cold War, and I thought that was just lazy writing, as Deathpool would say. Now that's just lazy writing. But then it's revealed he wants to put uh restore order to the world, using it as a way of using or not really using it, but fear itself. That's pretty much what I would say, fear itself to put people back in this place, given like what happened um through like you know, through like um the times of you know, the Korean War or you know, all the the civil rights stuff that's happening, you know, all the the racial stuff and all the political stuff that was happening and violence uh happens during most of that and you want to bring fear so that people won't even, you know, you know, they won't act like violent and stuff like that. It's kind of weird to say, but then obviously that plan didn't work, he gets killed by it because he he encountered it when he was young, and when you try to release it, it smelled the fear from what the character, and he's like, I never forget a smell, and yeah. I mean sometimes this episode pisses you off. Um these episodes kind of piss you off when it comes to the black spot murder, and I feel like that was the purpose of it. And I feel like next season when it gets to the um what is it? Oh man, I'm trying to think. Oh man, it there's a the Bradley gang. I think the next season we know is gonna get to the Bradley gang. We already got a little bit of snippets from the first uh season when it came to the Kersh character. Um, which by the way, she is 67 and God dang that woman. Good for 67. Alright. I'm I'm I'm uh I'm gonna be out and brown about saying that, okay? I'm I'm not I'm not hiding that part, but still. And you know, some people are gonna be like thrown off about the stories of that and it's like, oh, this is woke and stuff like that. Well, it takes place, you know, back in those times. I mean, obviously there's gonna be s some of that stuff, but it's not like if I did movies that take place around slavery time or civil rights time and stuff like that, it's not for it to be woke, it's just like that's just what happened in history. I will say though that not every white person is well, not every white person was evil or racist, but I mean you could say pretty much about any um what's the word? Not oppressive time, I wouldn't say too oppressive, but in an oppressive era, you can say bad about any people. You get what I mean? And people will still call it welcome. But to my point, I really did enjoy Welcome to Dairy. Uh I can't wait for season two, what they're gonna do with that. I think Andy Muschetti and Barbara Muschetti's sister really redeemed themselves after, you know, how things went down for the second film. So if I was to rank these counting the um the 1990 version, I think it would be um it chapter two, it chapter two, it chapter one, welcome to dairy season one, and then it 1990. I always have a spot for that one, the 1990 version, but um, yeah, we're gonna take a break right now, and then um we'll eventually talk about the um the Stranger Things final season. Alright, guys, welcome back to the uh podcast. So now we're gonna talk about the other show, about the monster that was attacking children and the final episode of Stranger Things. So, first of all, I have a very complex feeling about this uh season. Going back to the whole um, what was it, military thing, it's the same thing as they've tried to do with all the past seasons where they want to capture beings from the upside down and then use it to go against the the war on Russia because this is during the era of the Cold War. And um, which I think which I've already mentioned kind of in Stranger Things. I mean not Stranger Things, uh Welcome to Dairy. And um, yeah, I just have very complicated feelings about this one. And then using Linda Hamilton, the Linda Hamilton, Sarah Freaking Connor. Okay, I almost said the full F word, but oh my gosh. What did they do? Like Stranger Things is known for, at least with the last three seasons, of getting like very great uh uh actors and putting them on the show, but that's just for like uh they call it stunt casting, where like they just have famous actors on their show just to have them there. They kind of did that with Robert England, but with this one, there's a there's a lot more to it. There was a lot more to to why they had casted Robert England uh specifically because Vecna was was a uh a representation of Freddie Krueger, and that's why they casted him. Linda Hamilton's just there. Because at least with James Remar, he still has that like Remar-esque, you know, characteristic. With Linda Hamilton, I'm like, really? Like you're not doing it, like this is all you're using for her? And of course, there's always that thing of like what happens to the military after the final episode, you get what I mean? So that's that's my biggest problem. I mean, because like I was I wasn't super excited for the final season, to be honest with you guys. I wasn't because my issue when it comes to television, I don't watch a lot of television, guys. And the issue being is that when a show ends, it ends bad. Alright. Um, the only like the only show I know that actually has a better oh well that do have better endings are like Breaking Bad. Um in my in my personal opinion, uh My NC does have a really good ending. I think it was better than the Sons of Anarchy ending. And I love Sons of Anarchy. Um, what else? Um, Friends had a pretty good ending, um, until Joey messed it up. And then uh The Office. Um, even though I've never seen the ending, but I heard the office ending is actually really great and it does service to the show. Uh Avatars and Welcome to Cora, both shows ended on a better note with more questions answered than more questions being added on. Um, but obviously there are shows that are like what, you know, like people will say Dexter. I like the Dexter ending, and apparently they messed it up a lot more with Dexter New Blood. And then um Game of Thrones was a very famous one. I've never seen Game of Thrones. I might eventually because I do stuff like this, but um, I hope to god the boys has a really great ending, a really solid ending. But um, yeah. Uh the Sopranos uh ending, it's it's a it's a mixed bag for a lot of folks. But my point being, like the final seasons of a show never really delivers, and when they deliver, it's like okay, like that is that it you know you get what I mean? Like you wanna be satisfied because there's like Duffer Brothers, you can just tell they just had no plan. Okay. Now, keep in mind there's a lot of stuff happening when they were making the show. So here's what I mean. The biggest problem with Stranger Things was always that the kids they get older and older every year. Now, yes, kids grow up, but the thing is that like seasons one and two, um, you know, they came out a year apart from each other, so that's fine. Um, I don't know I don't I don't know, I don't remember why they decided to um wait a full over way over a year for Stranger Things season three to come out after uh season two. Um, but I'm a little bit more for s forgiving for that. Um and then the other and then the other reasons, and you really just can't blame them for it either, um, is because season four got halted because of the pandemic, and then season five got halted um because of the strikes. I mean the strikes wasn't really like the big, big deal, but it was one of the reasons. The other reason is just uh Devil Brothers was just taking way too much time to um the finish the planning. And um, yeah, I mean yeah, the strikes were a part of it, but the strikes didn't have a bigger effect as the pandemic did, but uh yeah. So the thing is that yes, I could be forgiving on those parts. What I'm not forgiving is that like um you guys still decided to make each season like the most eight months to a year apart from the previous season. So it's like one season's eighty-four, then eighty-five, then you continue to go with eighty six and then eighty-seven. I'm thinking if y'all wanted to just continue the eighties nostalgia, make up for the reason why these kids are older than they should be. Like you could have like, like I'll I'll forgive you for the 84, 85 part, alright? Um, but like 86, 87, you could have done 88 to 89. And that's just what I'm saying. Like, you know, Master of Puppets still would have been helpful, would have still would have been um, what's the word? Um uh relevant, I guess you can say, even though if you know this the history in 1986 when Master of Puppets came out, that was also the death of Cliff Burton, the bassist of Metallica. But yeah, um, the only good news that came out was obviously uh Prince. Um, and that's something that Stranger Things does, is they have like more people um, you know, interested in um older 80s music. So I was never familiar with Running Up That Hill, or at least I've never heard the song Running Up That Hill until I saw season four. And I already knew about Master of Puppets because I'm a big Metallica fan. And then when Prince came into the mix, I was like, oh dude, I I love Prince. Um Michael Jackson, Metallica again. My my what I was scared of is like, what if like people when they when they see Prince again, they're gonna be like, oh my gosh, Prince did this, that, that, that. Because in case y'all didn't know or didn't remember, and I don't want to talk about it again, but I will. When Master of Puppets was um played on Stranger Things and they got a 300% uh streaming for Metallica, somebody named Serena Trubler decided to make a cancel video and talking about stuff Metallica did back in the 80s and 90s and stuff like that. About like, oh, because she went after James Heatfield a lot. Like James Heatfield's a racist, he played a guitar that has uh an iron cross on it. They did a Nazi salute. Um, what else did they do? Uh Jameson Newstead did a Nazi march. Uh Jay James hung with Carrie King from Slayer, and at the time Carrie King are in the photo. Carrie King had a Confederate flag, and yeah, uh, or they were making fun of Mental Health and people suicide, stuff like that. And you know, people like me and all the other folks were like, Yeah, you're full of it. Because if you actually did your research, you would know James and Metallica isn't any of that. Because obviously James is one, we know he's the only white boy in the group because um, you know, uh Kirk Hammett, their guitarist is half Filipino, um Rob Trujillo, their bassist is Mexican and Native American, and their drummer law is Lars Ulrich. I just found this out. Lars Ulrich did the drums and centers, the soundtrack, and that's really, really cool. To my point, Lars Ulrich is Danish. Um, the only other white boys they had in the group were uh their past bassists, which were uh Jason and Cliff. And you gotta remember if most of the stuff they that she's accusing them of happened in the 80s and 90s. There was no social media back then. Alright. Hardly anybody watching news, which by the way, guys, stop watching the freaking news, guys, because I'm seeing all this bullshit on the uh I'm trying not to cuss so much, but you oh my gosh, on social media, it's like every time I'm on the I'm on social media, somebody says, Oh, Trump did this, or the law enforcement did this and that, and somebody said, Oh my gosh, shut up. Okay, just shut it. Shut it down. Alright, go back to a time when social media you can just be like, oh, I'm having a good time with my family. Go back to that for w just stop watching the news and stop sharing the news. I don't give a fuck. I don't fucking care. Please stop, okay? Y'all made me cuss on my podcast. Now I'm probably gonna have to edit that out, but still. Um to my point, um, yeah, there wasn't too much happening back then, especially with like the Carrie King where for those that don't know, Carrie King was um it was the guitarist of Slayer who um and Slayer's uh bassist, also their lead singer Tomas Arayas is from Chile, and their original drummer is from Cuba, so Carrie King's sounded racist, and they would have said something to him about that flag. The Confederate flag wasn't entirely a sign of racism. Back in the South, people would call it as a as a sign of rebellion. It just has an unfortunate history that uh we don't like to get involved with. But um, yeah, uh everything they they claim is like this isn't true. You also gotta look at the context. They're making fun of Nazism, um, which I don't know why people are they're using the term Yahtzee because certain platforms cannot um handle the real word, but still. Um, they're making fun of all this third reich stuff, they're not part of it. And James Hetfield for some reason being cancelled because he didn't post about Black Lives Uh Matter. That's because James Hetfield doesn't even have social media. So yeah, no no research whatsoever. Just like assumption. But um overall, I was still happy that uh that at least Metallica made it on the show. To my now to this season, so I can actually like chill out for a bit after that little bit of rage. This season, um, I again I have a lot of like not so great m uh emotions about this. Um and again, mostly because they decided to release their um their show three years you know apart. And at that time you j you just forget that the show even existed. Um again, I know maybe the strike had something to do with it, but y'all still could have planned during the set like literally during the season four, y'all could have started planning um and and figure everything out and then start filming in 2022. And if you know the strikes really did cause it, then you still could have waited and still somehow have it released in 2024. At least it's still kind of fresh in our mind. Or you get what I mean? And then things would be better, but you could just tell they just were like we need to get this done as much as we can. That doesn't mean like some of the storyline is bad, like take away the the whole military side of things because that just was bore that just bore me. Um some of the actions is pretty cool, especially coming when we find out that Will um eventually gets powers. I actually do like that. I think I I don't think people did uh like that part. I enjoyed the part, I thought it was pretty cool. Um, but Will Will, the character itself, has always been, and I'm gonna talk about the coming out um story, but with Will in general, after season one, uh you could tell the writers didn't know what to do with this character. And then um eventually we we find out throughout the time that Will is gay and a lot of people were screaming Woke during the coming out episode, and I went, Have you guys not seen the show? Like literally since season three, since season three, um, Will has been in the closet. It's never really mentioned, obviously in season one, because he's been captured the entire season, and season two because uh well if you've seen season two, you know all the problems. Um to my point being, um, ever since season three, everybody's kinda figured like, yeah, Will's gay. This is the 80s, yo. I mean, uh and just for the regular, like I'm not an ally either. I I know I have relatives that are gay. Um, I'm just like not on board with it politically. That doesn't mean like I'm not gonna disrespect you in any way. I'm gonna love and respect you. Because if you do if the respect comes the same way, if you respect me as a person, then I will respect you as a person. Which it's coming it's been getting harder and harder nowadays. But to my point, we knew. Everyone knew, okay. And at first I I was like, why are people is this the one of the other reasons or is this the reason people just didn't like the show? It's not even the fact that about like it coming out because again, we all saw this coming. It's just like the way it was centered, it was just more of a oh, okay, but um in reality, especially back in the 80s, um, like how it went down that that it wouldn't have not gotten down until probably years later. Because I think people became a lot more receptive in the nineties, or at least started to get receptive in the nineties. At least that's what I think. I hear some people go, like, Well, I've been out in proud since the nineties, and I don't care. So there's it just depends. Um, but at least with this one, Will's a little bit more redeemable, especially when he gets his powers and how he uses his powers. Um, the Holly storyline it just bugged me sometimes. I was like, Why did you make her as now a character of a show? I mean, she's always been the character of the show, but you get what I mean. Like, why now focus on her? Um, I didn't like uh J well, hold on. I did enjoy Vecna and the way Jamie Campbell how Howard uh put him, or Jamie Campbell Bowers put him. And I met the guy, he's really nice. I asked him what would be his Vecna free song, and he said party in the USA. He gets that answer, he says that answer every time because he said like he just randomly said it because he was just being stupid, and he was like, and ever since that he's just been saying party in the USA and Miley Cyrus has yet to um acknowledge it. But uh to my point, I I liked him as a character. I didn't know that he was supposed to be a reference to Freddy Kruger until I think a couple of months ago. Now everybody wants him to come to actually play the character because we know Robert Egan is getting old and probably doesn't have a lot of time on this world. So um, anybody out there that wants to make a uh a new Freddy Krueger movie, A, I'm available, I want to start making movies, and maybe starting off with the Freddy Krueger movie might actually be really cool. And B, we should get Jamie Campbell how Bowers, I want to keep saying Howard, Jamie Campbell Bowers to play Freddie Kruger. All while we can try to figure out a way to get um Robert Ingland back, Robert Englin back. Um wow, I can't believe I just pitched an idea. Studio executives and uh who was who was it? Wes Craven's uh Wes Craven's family, I guess you could say. If you're hearing this, let's make it happen. Now, aside from that little pitch meeting, I was scared they were just gonna uh make him now a redeemable character because of how he was played. Um was in the last moments of the show, or like Well was like saying, You were just a kid, and he was like, you know, Vecna or Henry was like, get out of my head. It's like you could be free from all this. No, I don't want to. So as soon as like Vecna said no, and he again goes back to being evil again, I was like, Oh, okay. No more that like the villain becomes now the anti-hero and sacrifices himself and for the greater good. Alright. The only good example was Darth Vader, okay? Darth Vader's the only one that's acceptable. Nobody else is, okay. And Zuko. Oh, yeah, Zuko, because Zuko was already a complicated character, like intercomplicated, but still. My point being, yeah, there was that, the whole Godzilla fight was a bit off. Um, the Nancy and Jonathan, um, you know, breaking up. I mean, most people didn't receive that as a breaking up until the Duffer brothers announced it. And my other problem was the sh was that final season well, yeah, was that final season really was that um that like I'm trying to think. I don't know, it just it it just felt weird. I mean, yeah. Um, I don't think I got too much. If I was to rank this this sh this sh the show or this final uh uh season, um oh yeah, I was gonna I know what I was gonna go back to. I hate it every time they had to like break it into parts. You know, catch volume one on what was it, the day before uh Thanksgiving, catch volume two on Christmas Day, and then wait four days for the last episode. The only the only good thing I liked about that last episode was literally like who who was the Joy Spire who had pretty much did nothing the entire final season but like you know watch over her kids. I mean she's a mom, obviously. But all she did was like decapitate Vecta and say you fucked with the wrong family. Which is true. I mean, if he had not captured Will, none of this would have happened. Yeah. I'm actually gonna probably go to a little convention after like after this gets released. I'm gonna see the actress who played Barb and the actor who played uh who who was it, the teacher. I c I forgot his name right now, but I'm gonna try to see those folks. Um, but yeah, I mean, who knows? I probably might not have every time I say I'm probably gonna see these people actually don't, but hopefully this time I will. But I mean if I now if I was to rank these these um seasons, I would say like season it's weird, maybe season five might be the in last place, and then there's a three-way tie for second place, because there's I s I see a lot more uh I see both the good and the bad in seasons two, three, and four. Um like it's it's mostly because of the storylines and stuff like that. But I don't know, like like some storylines are are okay when it comes to the Russian storyline. That that just bores me, especially like season two when it came to um what was it, uh 11 finding eight. I forgot her name. And then of course that character does come back in the final season predictable, and she dies predictable, and the ending of 11 also to me predictable. Um also was never I know some people were, I was never a fan of that douchebag Derek on the final uh season. I just couldn't stand that kid. But um, uh yeah. I have a lot of bad feelings towards the final season. So final season is in fifth place, three-way tie in second place for seasons two, three, and four. Season one is the only good season because like they established something. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if that was like a one and done uh mini-series. You know, I met David Harbour. I never mentioned that. I met David Harbor, he's such a cool guy. Um, he's very particular on like where people stand uh um when he's taking photos. I think he wants people on his right side. Um, I never asked why because I mean it was never a big deal to me, as long as you know I get to be right next to him. Um hopefully I could get also celebrity evangelists to come here and we could talk about um convention stuff. Derek Novak, if you're listening to this one, sorry about all the cussing. That's just my my inner demons trying to come out. But I really want to have a conversation with you, man. You're um I'll probably I'm probably gonna have to reach out and find you. But um, yeah, so season season uh one is in first place. But yeah, um, I may rewatch them. I don't know. It's it's like a chore, you know, but we'll see. So uh we'll get back because I have a different message I want to do after this. Alright, um, before I get to my message, I want to talk a little bit more about Stranger Things real quick. Um, you know, I was watching this thing with um Devme, and again, no shade. I really love those guys. Um, it was just how they they came off, and it's not their fault, it's because like I said, watching Stranger Things is a chore. You know, trying and they were having to watch at least uh Chelsea was trying to rewatch the entire season uh in a week, and I could never do that surprising to her. It's just because she got fatigued, but they were talking about Hopper and the the way he was in season three, um, just being like that dad figure. And I mean I'm coming from someone who lost his dad. You're also talking of this is coming from someone who I I understand Hopper a lot more. Um, so what I mean is I'm not a a dad dad uh particularly. Like I don't have like kids of my own. But when I said earlier, like m one of my kids, she doesn't like pickles. So I I became what is known as a surrogate father. A a surrogate father basically meaning you're the father figure people needed and they never got. And I I became that to two girls. Um they're they're in their 20s now, at least one is and one's about to be. But when you when you understand their stories and stuff like that, like they haven't given me their full stories of their dads. Um sometimes it it doesn't sound like their dad are bad people or whatever. Like it sounds like they've had uh some good relationships and other stuff they keep to themselves. I don't want to say something and it's like um completely false, but that they I hear one thing one day then I hear a different thing the other day. And when I came along in the picture, it's like they told me like I'm the I'm more the dad they wanted, and that's just a hard thing to say considering I got my own problems and it's like I've always doubted whether I could be a dad, but if that's the legacy I ever leave behind in the future, then that's that's my legacy, and I can I couldn't imagine, you know, like you know, being like a dad dad, but being that kind of a father figure to people, to two almost three girls, that that's I'll I'll take it. Um so yeah, I'm a girl dad, pretty much is what I meant to say, but um everybody needs to be that father figure to somebody. They need it. And uh, you know, if you ever doubt yourself as being a dad, but you're it's becoming that type of person, don't doubt yourself anymore. Um because you'll eventually realize you actually can, you know, be that figure they needed. And you know, any person will love to have you as a father. That's that's all I have to say about that. But to my real message that I've been trying to I was I want to say this isn't even gonna take long, it's gonna take the most maybe three or four minutes unedited, but uh two minutes edited, two or three minutes edited, it just depends on how much I talk. But um, we know that Netflix has been having these deals with Warner Brothers and stuff like that. Um, I don't I don't remember two a hundred percent of what had happened. Um, all I know is is basically like they want to buy off Warner Brothers or is it truly happening, and then Paramount wants to get involved, and then Trump even wants to get involved too. But to my point being is that look, I'm okay with the streaming services of Netflix and Peacock and um you know Paramount Plus and Disney Plus and Hulu. I am getting tired of them saying like there's a new streaming service out, there's a new streaming service out. I'm like, dude, can we just stick with the five? Because it's just too much. Um, and not only that, so like certain po like certain platforms, I understand why they uh they would have um streaming uh streaming platforms because like um, you know, um like Netflix and even Amazon and Hulu will you know they like this to check in on the the indie films and stuff like that, but indie films also need theatrical runs too. To my point being, I remember when I was I think four or five years old, maybe four years old, and I saw the Rugrats movie. I think I was four years, I think I was four, maybe three years old. And if I was three years old during that time, man, I must have one hell of a memory. But um, I do remember kind of seeing the Rugrats movie in theaters. I I don't remember the full experience because of how young I was. Oh wow, I was two years old. Dang. Okay, yeah, that would make a little bit more sense because I was almost three when it came out, but I should not be remembering it. But I think maybe because my older sister wanted to watch it because she saw the rugrats. So the movie I have the most experience with the theater, like a real good first-time experience was um uh I I think it was Spider-Man. Because yeah, Spider-Man came out in in 2000. 2000, yeah, it came out in 2000. So, no, Spider-Man 2. What came out? All right, I think it might have been the Grinch, it might have been the Grinch that I might have a first a real first-time experience of the theater. Even Spider-Man 2, uh, I mean, well, yeah, Spider-Man as well. Spider-Man, it was a great experience. The Lord of the Rings, I always loved. To my point being, I love the theater. The theater cannot go anywhere. Filmmakers need the theater, even Sean Baker has mentioned like indie filmmakers need those theaters. Um, we don't always need the streaming platform. And if we want to catch up on, you know, other great movies like from the past, like how to train your dragon that I saw on Peacock, or um, you know, other old older classics like The Lord of the Rings that's on HBO and HBO Ma or HBO Max, really. Um, and I mean like I'm okay with the shows of the streaming service as well, like Cobra Kai. Um I might I might talk about Cobra Kai this season just to get more uh content. And of course the boys, and we talked about Welcome to Dairy and Stranger Things. Um The Penguin, which was such a great show on HBO Max. I'm pretty sure it did come out on the station itself. Um, and that's the thing, HBO Max is helpful for people who don't even have the station HBO. Um, because HBO is still a station. And I'm okay with the comedy specials, you know. Not everyone could get a Comedy Central special or HBO special or a Showtime special. I'm okay with the the Hulu special or the Netflix special, you know, but trying to replace that for a theatrical experience, that's something you can never do. Alright, I love going to theater and I still will go love going to theater. I swear I'm pr pretty much whenever I get married, the first thing I'm gonna do before I get married is watch a movie theater by myself for the last last time before I ever tie the knot with somebody. We don't need this this deal, okay? Netflix needs to back up and let the theaters be. Let Warner Brothers be, okay? They've actually been doing pretty good, okay? Let the theaters be. That's my message. I love the theater. Tons of us love the theater. That's my message. That's all I got. You guys have a great night, day, morning, whenever you're listening to this. Signing off.