I like that You say 3 to 1, and then you click events and clusters like 3 to 1.
You can't be too prepared with these things, you know?
Hi. Welcome to our friend The computer, A computer history podcast.
I'm Camila Galaz.
I'm a writer and visual artist, and I'm here with my lovely co-host, Ana.
Hi, I'm Ana.
I work as a web developer and producer for online courses and, yeah, a podcast host.
Now, as it Seems to be. Gotta update your LinkedIn.
I know I've updated my website.
I've added this.
I've added our friend the computer website to my website.
I have not done that.
Oh yeah we have a website.
Yeah we have we have a website that we're working on, but it's kind of it's minimal at the moment, but you know, it's just going to continue building.
I think that's kind of nice.
So we should we tell?
Yeah. Tell the ether about it. Do it.
Ok so it's our friend the dot computer so it doesn't have like a dot org or dot com extension but it has a dot computer and then it's just like the name as one word otherwise.
And yeah, it's, it's got our podcast episodes on it for the time being, but we may have other plans for that space.
But yeah, it's not I don't want like a minimal I want to have like a max.
Yeah. Maximal Maximalist.
I want like maximum amount.
Lots of gifs all over. Mhm.
And I just want to, I basically want it to be like a Neopets fan site from the twins.
Yeah. We'll make that happen.
So far we just have bubbles coming out of the cursor.
That's the only interactive stuff we have.
But it's. It's enough for now.
It's enough.
I love it. You did a really good job, but this is a bonus episode.
So we've been doing our season on pre-Internet networks and we're doing these sort of little fun bonuses that are looking at different uses and services that were available on these networks.
So we've been looking at a lot of video text networks, but this is about a teletext service.
So we had a chat about teletext previously where video text is a two way communication so people could sort of interact with it.
Teletext was one way, so it was just like text that was supplied to you so it would pop up on your television screen and it, so it would be these like these screens that you could click through.
So we're looking at Oracle, which was a teletext service in the UK.
It started in 1978 and it closed in 1992.
And my favorite part is always what this acronym stand for and Oracle stands for Optional Reception of Announcements by Coded Line Electronics.
Do you think that the name came first or do you think that what it stands for okay, this definitely the acronym for sure.
It sounds evil and big and cool and the long name just sounds really vague, but so long.
Like why are you going to make a name that's so long and make it vague at the same time?
Because we just call it Oracle, just that.
Okay, so, so it provided lines of text on the TV screen via a receiver.
These included advertisements, news, TV listings, and then also some original content such as the daily soap opera named Park Avenue, which is what we're going to look at today.
So Park Avenue was written by a guy called Robbie Burns.
It began in 1988, and they ended up airing 1445 episodes, which is a lot of crazy content.
And it ended it only ended with like the end of Oracle, which was four years later.
So it was around for four years.
Was it made by the BBC or something like that?
I don't know.
I actually yeah, I think I know it's like ITV, so because it kind of reminds me of I mean, we'll get into the way that the stories are written, then kind of displayed later.
But it really reminds me of like the BBC for radio soap operas where you have maybe like five characters or something.
I think it's The Archers and there's just like a storyline that follows and this like fictional life that they're living in like a suburb.
And it really reminds me of like the storylines that they have with Park Avenue a little bit.
But yeah, that's just a little tangential.
I get no sense that this one was very low fi, but yeah, I mean, I guess it's all from the UK and I guess it's taking away from radio plays. Mhm.
So it was a daily, it was a daily soap opera via, it's all via text though.
No audio and new episodes would arrive on the service daily at 5 p.m.
and they included around like 6 to 10 pages of text and sometimes they'd include these like teletext images, like a pixel based image of the main characters.
And it was funny because I think sometimes these images were actually they just sort of made teletext versions of other like they had source material that was like some someone on the, on like a cover of a, of a music album or something.
And then later people realized that they just sort of copied these other images.
Yeah, I really wonder how they made these images because like, they're all quite photorealistic.
They're not like comics.
They're kind of like someone took a photograph and then somehow converted that photograph into like an eight bit pixel image.
So I really I wonder what the process behind that was also like.
Speaking of the kind of low fi ness of teletext and video text, I kind of just realized that like these video texts and teletext can kind of be described as like web 0.0.
Yeah, you know, you have web 1.0 where you have like an actual web page with like a scroll bar, but it's not really interactive at all and it's just like information on a screen.
And then you have Web 2.0, which becomes more interactive, and you can start putting your own inputs as a user and chat and relate to people.
And then you have Web 3.0, which is a little bit more like complicated with like the back end of how stuff is stored, but or who it's owned by.
But yeah, Web one Web 0.0.
I feel like that's quite a good analogy.
You know, like the fact that there's no scrollbar.
It's eight bit it's not really that interactive, but it's more of just like a yeah, like a news channel or radio being kind of converted into text.
Yeah, I don't know that that was I feel like we should have called our podcast web 0.0.
Yeah.
Or what?
Web 0.01 maybe because that's to be some existence of it.
So the reason that we have like a lot of information about Park Avenue is that there is like organization graphical, someone that is archiving it.
They go to Park Avenue archives on Twitter, that Park Avenue APK with a k k and their website is an email box UK.
But they're doing this like amazing job trying to retrieve and archive all the episode scripts and like ephemera from the show.
And they retweeted this short article from 1989 about the writer and I'm going to read it.
I it's the article is called Revenge is Sweet Eric who subeditor Robbie Burns knows how to get his revenge.
Anyone who messes Robbie about may find that he's become a character in Aka's new daily drama Park Avenue on ITV.
Teletext page 126 The doors to this suburban street which Robbie found by sticking a pin in the A to Z opened last December.
The soap aims to be topical, but there will be an element of Rob's revenge.
And then there's a quote from him.
Someone recently broke into my car and stole the stereo, so I immediately thought of a burglar getting caught in Park Avenue, he says.
And as for whether Sarah stays with the estate agent, it depends on how my own agent gets on with selling my house.
So some of the archived episode scripts from like recorded VHS tapes, I guess that people just still like Pat around and others are text printouts and they've archived 877 episodes so far and they have 568 still to go.
So wait, so no screen casts or screenshots, No, no.
Too Web 2.0 for that today I thought maybe we could like read some of the episodes because they're kind of fun.
So we're going to read episodes one, two, four.
So like the first four and then I want to skip and go to the very final episode, Episode 1445.
So these were a page, so they had pages.
So I'm going to read each episode.
I'm going to read like this, the intro and then the first page, and then we'll like switch out the pages for each episode.
Is that good with you on it? Sounds great.
I'm ready.
Okay.
I'm excited to learn about what happens on Park Avenue.
So episode number one was Thursday 1st December 1988.
The story so far we really jump in here.
I feel like Richard Gold and live in girlfriend Sarah right on getting on.
She thinks he doesn't work hot enough and he thinks she works too hard.
Rich's estate agency isn't doing too well.
Susan Finder is running up a huge credit card bill.
Local paper editor Dave Finder is set for a showdown with his and over the papers quality.
Robert, find out, has shocked his parents by putting on an earring.
Don Davie is desperately looking for an acting job.
Right. All right.
So first page, An investigation has been launched into a train crash in Newcastle in Sarah Riot switched off the radio slash alarm and yawned.
She sat up in bed and stared at her boyfriend, Richard Gold.
He wouldn't have to get up until 830 to open up his estate agency, Gold's.
He had a reasonably easy life, she thought.
Well, she had to work 100 hours a week as a junior doctor at Parkville Hospital.
He owned megabucks, so she picked up very little for the hours she had to put in.
She felt tired and irritable and wondered why I should ever study to be a doctor.
100 hours a week is a lot of hours a week.
That's crazy.
Also, what is an M.D.?
I don't know.
I was like, Doctor, but I don't know why he would be in a showdown with his doctor over his papers, calling.
Well, maybe we'll find out.
Yeah.
Okay. All right. Next page.
Next page.
Sarah scrambled out of bed.
She'd finished at the hospital at midnight, and she was due in again at 7 a.m.
as she opened day one of her advent calendar.
She'd always had one. Richard woke up.
What's the time? He mumbled.
Six, said Sarah.
And when you get in tonight, for Pete's sake, clean up the house.
It's a tip.
Have the night off the wine bar for a change and do something useful.
Just I mean, I love I love this attitude.
Stop nagging, moaned Richard, and put the duvet over his head.
Sarah strode out into the morning to face her growing list of patients and banner waving nurses.
Oh, so the NHS strikes were on back then too.
I mean, I get it.
She she finished.
She finished work at midnight. Yeah.
And she has to be there at seven.
So she, she got home at like one and has to leave at like six.
All right, next page Sue find her.
Finished watching the 1: 00 news and got ready to go out.
Finished watching the 1: She'd taken an afternoon off her part time secretarial job to do some Xmas shopping.
Finished watching the 1: The second post arrived.
Finished watching the 1: She owed £450 on her credit card but didn't worry too much.
Finished watching the 1: Her limit was £800.
Finished watching the 1: She'd been spending a lot on clothes recently as wife of a local newspaper editor.
Finished watching the 1: She went to a lot of dos and she liked looking good.
Finished watching the 1: As she walked to the bus stop, she thought about what she had to buy cards, clothes and little presents for the children.
Finished watching the 1: The turkey could wait.
Finished watching the 1: Okay, wait.
Finished watching the 1: So I'm just going to ignore it.
Finished watching the 1: Like any mention of monetary value in this, because when was this made?
Finished watching the 1: 88. Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: So like, the currency would have just completely fluctuated since then and you know, the value would have increased.
Finished watching the 1: So she should be worried because it means she owes a lot more than 400 and.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah, yeah, that's like quite a lot for the time I guess.
Finished watching the 1: Okay, cool.
Finished watching the 1: So next page, Richard Gold was proud of the estate agents office he'd set up a year ago, but that was during the property boom and he and his partner Clive weren't making as much as they used to.
Finished watching the 1: Just six months ago.
Finished watching the 1: Look after the office, Carob, said Richard to the receptionist.
Finished watching the 1: Clive and me are off to lunch.
Finished watching the 1: Richard and Clive walked down Parkfield High Street.
Finished watching the 1: How's that cracking girlfriend of yours, then?
Finished watching the 1: Asked Clive Knox.
Finished watching the 1: A law replied Richard, That's when I get to see her.
Finished watching the 1: Of course, she's always at the ready hospital.
Finished watching the 1: I want to decode Ruddy the bloody hospital.
Finished watching the 1: Right next page.
Finished watching the 1: Can I join you?
Finished watching the 1: I've registrar at Parkfield Hospital, Paul Clinton asked Sarah right as she was having a quiet cup of tea in the hospital's canteen.
Finished watching the 1: Shah said Sarah So how's life?
Finished watching the 1: Asked Paul.
Finished watching the 1: Sarah felt a bit nervous in the presence of Paul, and not just because he was a bus.
Finished watching the 1: She had always rather like to even fancied him.
Finished watching the 1: They chatted for quite a while about how busy the hospital was, the long hours and the nurses regrading issue.
Finished watching the 1: Paul suddenly said, Can I take you out for a meal sometime?
Finished watching the 1: Perhaps.
Finished watching the 1: Why not?
Finished watching the 1: Replied Sarah.
Finished watching the 1: She couldn't believe her luck.
Finished watching the 1: So that's why she's spending so much time at the hospital.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah, she's like, I have to work a hundred hour.
Finished watching the 1: I do?
Finished watching the 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: Back home.
Finished watching the 1: What am I right?
Finished watching the 1: Okay, Next page.
Finished watching the 1: Christmas Muzak music.
Finished watching the 1: Muzak.
Finished watching the 1: Muzak blared out from the shops in Parkfield High Street, and Sue Finder walked around trying to decide what to buy first.
Finished watching the 1: She felt quite warm, considering it was now December.
Finished watching the 1: She paused to look in the new window of Parkfield Department store.
Finished watching the 1: Two men stopped as they passed her and when asked her for the time.
Finished watching the 1: It's Sue didn't quite finish the reply as one of the men grabbed her and the other tried to take her handbag.
Finished watching the 1: She held on and started screaming.
Finished watching the 1: Suddenly she felt a blow and blacked out.
Finished watching the 1: No. Oh, that's really that's really that's really sad.
Finished watching the 1: Shadegg. Yeah. I feel sorry for her.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: She's never going to be able to listen to Christmas music in the same way she. All right, So then we have to wait a whole day to get to see what happens.
Finished watching the 1: Okay.
Finished watching the 1: That was episode two Friday, 2nd of December 1988.
Finished watching the 1: The story so far, Susan Finder, is running up a huge credit card bill.
Finished watching the 1: Even though she was just like, I'm so local paper editor of the same Think Day Finder is set for a showdown with his MD over the papers quality.
Finished watching the 1: Sarah agrees to go out for a meal with Paul Clinton from the hospital.
Finished watching the 1: Robert find a has shocked his parents.
Finished watching the 1: Oh, he was alright.
Finished watching the 1: This already checked his parents by putting on an earring.
Finished watching the 1: Dan DAVIES desperately looking for an acting job.
Finished watching the 1: Sue is mugged in Parkfield High Street.
Finished watching the 1: Och, mugged. Just mugged, then.
Finished watching the 1: Just mugged.
Finished watching the 1: We're going to discharge you, said Dr. Sarah.
Finished watching the 1: Right To Sue.
Finished watching the 1: Find who was lying in a hospital bed with her husband, Dave, at his side.
Finished watching the 1: Sue had a nasty bump on the head.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: I mean, this doesn't seem like a large town.
Finished watching the 1: Sue had a nasty bump on the head, and apart from a bad headache, she felt okay.
Finished watching the 1: I still can't believe you were mugged in Parkfield High Street in broad daylight.
Finished watching the 1: Said Dave.
Finished watching the 1: At least I didn't get much. Just ten quid.
Finished watching the 1: I had my credit cards in my pocket.
Finished watching the 1: You just got to keep them close.
Finished watching the 1: I was really scared.
Finished watching the 1: I just can't believe it happened to me.
Finished watching the 1: And there were so many people around.
Finished watching the 1: No one tried to help me even though I was screaming, said Sir.
Finished watching the 1: Could they find her?
Finished watching the 1: Walked out of the ward with Sarah as Sue prepared herself to leave the hospital.
Finished watching the 1: Are you sure she's going to be okay?
Finished watching the 1: Steve anxiously.
Finished watching the 1: Yes, said Sarah.
Finished watching the 1: But she'll have to take it easy.
Finished watching the 1: Have a week off from work.
Finished watching the 1: Have there been a lot of people, Mike, like that recently?
Finished watching the 1: Asked Dave.
Finished watching the 1: You work for the local paper, don't you?
Finished watching the 1: Said Sarah.
Finished watching the 1: Well, don't quote me, but we've had a lot of people in who have been mugged or attacked in the street, said Dave thoughtfully, once.
Finished watching the 1: Okay, that's a great crime.
Finished watching the 1: Spree Avenue investigation continues.
Finished watching the 1: I like his response, just like right next page, Sid said.
Finished watching the 1: Ivy Smith, interrupting her husband for the third time as he tried to read Edward and Me by TV Blond, a gripping story on the front page of the Daily Express.
Finished watching the 1: Yes, said Con, interrupting.
Finished watching the 1: We split up this house into flats to make money in our old age, didn't we, Ivy?
Finished watching the 1: Yes, replied Sid.
Finished watching the 1: So why haven't we had December's rent from Don?
Finished watching the 1: Alcohol. US Ivy.
Finished watching the 1: Well, they're only two days late.
Finished watching the 1: They've both been in trouble before.
Finished watching the 1: Ivy interrupted.
Finished watching the 1: All right, I'll go and see them, said Sid, returning to the Express.
Finished watching the 1: Ivy glared at him.
Finished watching the 1: He was too soft when it came to business.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah, landlord business.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah. Chases.
Finished watching the 1: We don't like.
Finished watching the 1: I don't like these two already.
Finished watching the 1: No. Day Finder drove his wife home.
Finished watching the 1: They went into the kitchen and Dave made them some tea.
Finished watching the 1: I've got to get back to work soon.
Finished watching the 1: Are you going to be okay?
Finished watching the 1: He asked, giving her a hug.
Finished watching the 1: They've been married for ten years and they were very close.
Finished watching the 1: Although there had been a few rows recently about their children, Robert and Jane. It's always your fault.
Finished watching the 1: That's the earring that we keep hearing about.
Finished watching the 1: Oh, yeah, I think so, said Sue.
Finished watching the 1: What's the latest on the work front?
Finished watching the 1: To be honest, I think I may be in trouble.
Finished watching the 1: The employee has asked to see me on Monday.
Finished watching the 1: I don't think he's like the last few issues.
Finished watching the 1: There's not much news around, replied Dave.
Finished watching the 1: Okay, so the M.D.
Finished watching the 1: is part of the investigation for Park Avenue, figuring out what it means.
Finished watching the 1: I feel like we're we're slowly getting to the.
Finished watching the 1: Is he the editor?
Finished watching the 1: Sounds like it. Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: Oh, like the guy that maybe owns the paper.
Finished watching the 1: And Dave, is that someone else in charge of what Dave is writing about?
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: So Dave really needs to get a story, and maybe this mugging is.
Finished watching the 1: Is the one.
Finished watching the 1: All right, next page.
Finished watching the 1: Here we are. Done.
Finished watching the 1: The stage is all yours, said John Hardy, owner of Park Stores near Don's flat.
Finished watching the 1: Thanks.
Finished watching the 1: And a packet of jacket, potato crisps.
Finished watching the 1: Probably all I'll have today done, Dave DAVIES said bitterly.
Finished watching the 1: Probably all of it occurs.
Finished watching the 1: Sounds good. It was a tailor.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: It's not like I mean skins.
Finished watching the 1: Well, no, no, because a jacket potato is like a boy.
Finished watching the 1: Like a boiled potato.
Finished watching the 1: And you put stuff inside, and then potato chips are obviously chips.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: So what the hell is this, like, hybrid combination of I want wanted potato cooking styles.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah, I want probably all I'll have today.
Finished watching the 1: Not David's and fiddly.
Finished watching the 1: Are you running short of money against John out of work?
Finished watching the 1: Actors don't get much for fight done.
Finished watching the 1: You never know.
Finished watching the 1: There might be a job in here.
Finished watching the 1: He opened the actors newspaper.
Finished watching the 1: I thought you were good pretending to play the fruit machine in that soap.
Finished watching the 1: Said John.
Finished watching the 1: My only part in three months.
Finished watching the 1: Great work done.
Finished watching the 1: And love your voice for.
Finished watching the 1: It's evolving the more I learn about it.
Finished watching the 1: You're an actor.
Finished watching the 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Finished watching the 1: I couldn't do that for my bit.
Finished watching the 1: You were good, though, said John.
Finished watching the 1: It really looked like you were a man playing a fruit machine.
Finished watching the 1: Very funny.
Finished watching the 1: I've got to get a part soon.
Finished watching the 1: I'm just waiting for Sid to ask where December's rent is set.
Finished watching the 1: Done. Sid and I've are a nice old couple.
Finished watching the 1: They'll give you time, said John.
Finished watching the 1: Maybe.
Finished watching the 1: Maybe they started out until dawn, stared out into a rainy Park Avenue and wondered if he'd ever work again.
Finished watching the 1: Oh my God.
Finished watching the 1: So at this stage, the stage is the actor's neck is the acting.
Finished watching the 1: Oh, okay, cool.
Finished watching the 1: He looked at the stage again.
Finished watching the 1: Hang on, he said.
Finished watching the 1: What a good idea.
Finished watching the 1: He went home and grabbed the phone about the job.
Finished watching the 1: He said, Oh, that's a cliffhanger this time.
Finished watching the 1: Yeah.
Finished watching the 1: All right.
Finished watching the 1: Episode number three, Saturday.
Finished watching the 1: So it's a Saturday, 19th December
1980 8: 05 p.m..
1980 8: Put that on the teletext.
1980 8: The article we want know what's happening.
1980 8: Well they had a little putting on our shoulder pads flopping on.
1980 8: All right.
1980 8: The story so far, Susan fan still running up a credit card bill.
1980 8: They find it still set for a showdown about the paper.
1980 8: Sarah has agreed to go for a meal with Paul Clinton from the hospital.
1980 8: Oh. Neither Karl nor Dan Davie can afford to pay Sid and Ivy this month's rent.
1980 8: Don may have found a job and then Sue was mugged in the Parkfield High Street and she's returned home from hospital.
1980 8: Okay, first take look through, Sue.
1980 8: I know.
1980 8: And I feel like we've really with neglected her.
1980 8: She just needs to.
1980 8: The phone rang at 10 a.m.
1980 8: in the find a household.
1980 8: Sue, find.
1980 8: I picked up the receiver at her bedside.
1980 8: Oh, man.
1980 8: My grandparents had, like, a telephone next to bed.
1980 8: Really? Yeah.
1980 8: It's a really old school thing that I only see in the movies these days.
1980 8: Is Robert there? As the voice.
1980 8: Sue wearily shouted to her son Robert phone.
1980 8: She heard Robert go downstairs to take his call.
1980 8: Dave stood under the duvet. Who was that?
1980 8: He asked. A call for Robert.
1980 8: You've got to talk to him.
1980 8: He isn't doing any schoolwork.
1980 8: And he got an earring. Said sir.
1980 8: Yes, okay, said Dave, sitting up.
1980 8: More to the point. How are you?
1980 8: My head still feels a bit sore, and I keep thinking about what happened all the time, said Sir.
1980 8: I mean, she's probably got, like, post-traumatic stress.
1980 8: They just sent her home.
1980 8: I know.
1980 8: Where's the journalist?
1980 8: He's the journalist. Here he is.
1980 8: So let's go down the arcade and play the machines, said Robert's friend Jason down the phone.
1980 8: Okay, replied Rob, who seemed to spend most of his time in the arcade.
1980 8: Robert got dressed and took the bus down to the high street.
1980 8: He had £5, which soon disappeared as he played the fruit machines with Jason.
1980 8: Why don't we get tattooed?
1980 8: Suggested Jason.
1980 8: I don't know.
1980 8: My mum's already got mad about my earring, said Rob.
1980 8: I'll find out how much it costs, said Jason.
1980 8: Have you got any money?
1980 8: I've run out.
1980 8: No, replied Rob.
1980 8: That machine's just taken my fiver.
1980 8: Wait, so he has a gambling problem?
1980 8: Is that what's a fruit machine?
1980 8: It's like a slot machine, right?
1980 8: Or is that. Yeah, like a do something else.
1980 8: Well, if.
1980 8: Yeah, it's like a slot machine, but like, in a game room, it's like an arcade.
1980 8: It's more of just like a gaming.
1980 8: I don't think it's like a casino.
1980 8: I don't think it's like I do like they do in the eighties when they're.
1980 8: Yeah, but it's like the era getting Ted to play arcade games.
1980 8: Okay.
1980 8: Yeah, right.
1980 8: At least they're not drinking.
1980 8: I mean, maybe there's a lot of episodes that they need content for.
1980 8: So a good with kids then?
1980 8: The personnel officer at Park Fields Department stores asked Don Davey, who felt his interview for the position of Father Christmas had been rather tough.
1980 8: Yes, he says, the depressed one.
1980 8: Yes, I love Donald.
1980 8: Okay.
1980 8: I'm going to give you the job with time off for auditions if you need said the part, you start on Monday.
1980 8: It's great that the job hadn't really been what Don was after when he looked in the actor's paper at the stage.
1980 8: But at least he could pay Sipsmith the rent and buy his parents a decent present.
1980 8: Ho, ho, ho! He practiced as he took the bus home.
1980 8: So. Right, so tired and worn as she battled with another long day at the hospital.
1980 8: She did want to spend more time with Richard, but she had told him when they decided to live together that junior doctors worked long hours.
1980 8: Paul Clinton is that he's that commitment.
1980 8: Yeah, I said Clinton.
1980 8: Do you think it would be kind?
1980 8: I think it's Clinton. Yeah. Okay.
1980 8: A registrar interrupted her thoughts as they crossed in a corridor.
1980 8: Oh, Sarah, about that meal.
1980 8: How about Tuesday night?
1980 8: Um, yes, I suppose so.
1980 8: Great.
1980 8: Sarah felt nervous, but also excited at the thought of going out with Paul.
1980 8: She'd just tell Richard she was working anyway.
1980 8: She was only going out for a meal.
1980 8: Wow. Sarah. Wow.
1980 8: I mean, Paulson can't resist a sexy boss like her.
1980 8: I didn't say he was her boss.
1980 8: Said he was a boss.
1980 8: He's the boss.
1980 8: All right, next page.
1980 8: I still feel a bit nervous about going out to find a toad.
1980 8: Dave as he watched the football results rolling in on the TV.
1980 8: Not. That's hardly surprising.
1980 8: Yeah, it's like receiving.
1980 8: It's hardly surprising after your ordeal.
1980 8: Look, let's go to the cinema tonight and take the kids.
1980 8: You should be okay with all those around you.
1980 8: I suppose so.
1980 8: I just keep going over what happened in my mind, said Sir Robert and Jane came into the room.
1980 8: Oh, no.
1980 8: Bloody football, moaned Jane.
1980 8: We're all going to the pictures tonight, announced Dave.
1980 8: Even if Robert.
1980 8: So yes, we're all going to the pictures tonight, announced Dave.
1980 8: Even if Robert swaggered here.
1980 8: Robert wondered what his dad would think of him being tattooed.
1980 8: So much so misunderstood and ostracized.
1980 8: Or porcelain. Rubber.
1980 8: I like the underdogs.
1980 8: The Finder family settled down to watch a fish called Wanda Field Cinema.
1980 8: They were all enjoying it.
1980 8: Although Jane, an animal lover, was upset when a little dog was squashed in parentheses by a lump of concrete in this film.
1980 8: I need to see this film.
1980 8: I do.
1980 8: But I don't remember anything.
1980 8: Sounds great.
1980 8: Sue was feeling nervous, and suddenly she felt claustrophobic and found it hard to breathe.
1980 8: Oh, PTSD coming in.
1980 8: She stood up, breathing heavily, moved along the aisle and rushed to the exit.
1980 8: Dave ran after her. What's the matter?
1980 8: Take your son to the floor.
1980 8: What's the matter?
1980 8: I don't know.
1980 8: GASPS Sue.
1980 8: Can you take me home?
1980 8: Sorry. That's really silly.
1980 8: Okay.
1980 8: I feel really bad.
1980 8: This is quite interesting to see the way that mental health issues are being portrayed.
1980 8: I feel really like she's not okay.
1980 8: No, And it's all very kind of like blunt and cold and only depending on her symptoms, like she's actually not.
1980 8: Yeah, people aren't asking her anything.
1980 8: Yeah.
1980 8: And she kept saying, like, I keep I keep remembering, I keep flashing back and then everyone's like, yeah, I mean yeah, that happened.
1980 8: That did in fact happen.
1980 8: All right.
1980 8: So episode four Sunday,
4th of December 1980 8: 05 p.m..
4th of December 1980 8: We've all got to go to work tomorrow.
4th of December 1980 8: The story so far.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, it's the same Suzanne Find has still got a credit card debt bill they find is waiting for stuff.
4th of December 1980 8: There's a showdown with them over the papers quality.
4th of December 1980 8: Sarah has agreed to go for the meal with Paul Constant from the hospital.
4th of December 1980 8: Neither Karl not on Dave can afford to pay Sid and Ivy this month's rent.
4th of December 1980 8: Dawn gets a job playing center at the department store.
4th of December 1980 8: Robert Finder spends £5 on the fruit machines and Sue is still nervous about going out after the mugging and has a panic attack.
4th of December 1980 8: It's my first page.
4th of December 1980 8: Robert Finder came down the stairs.
4th of December 1980 8: He was the first to stare on Sunday morning.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, it's just occurred to me that this is literally like day.
4th of December 1980 8: The day it's the day, the day that it's being broadcast.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, that's cool.
4th of December 1980 8: He walked down the hall and saw his mum's handbag on the floor.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, he stopped still to listen if anyone else was up and then opened the bag and took £10, he thought to himself that he a lot of money back then.
4th of December 1980 8: It's double what he lost on the first double what put it now.
4th of December 1980 8: Probably if he'd put it back he'd win loads on the machines.
4th of December 1980 8: Rob Sister Jane came down the stairs and Rob tried not to look guilty.
4th of December 1980 8: Morning, said Jane.
4th of December 1980 8: I said, Rob, shame we missed the end of the film last night.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, agreed. Jane.
4th of December 1980 8: I don't know what's the matter with Mum.
4th of December 1980 8: She's in a funny mood now. She was mugged.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, man.
4th of December 1980 8: Bad vibes in that house.
4th of December 1980 8: Mugged and now mugged by her own son.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, she's okay.
4th of December 1980 8: Don felt good as he went to get the Sunday papers from park stores.
4th of December 1980 8: He had a job which would help pay the rent.
4th of December 1980 8: Yes. Is playing Santa Claus at Parkfield Department store from tomorrow?
4th of December 1980 8: Don asked store's owner John.
4th of December 1980 8: Well done, said John.
4th of December 1980 8: But I thought you hated kids.
4th of December 1980 8: I love said like action on the love, Love I love.
4th of December 1980 8: Don went home and climb the stairs past it in Evie's flat and then met fellow tenant cattle Murphy on the stairs.
4th of December 1980 8: I can't pay the rent yet, said cattle confidently.
4th of December 1980 8: I can't either.
4th of December 1980 8: We'd better not answer our door, said Don.
4th of December 1980 8: Ran, strike, ran straight. Right.
4th of December 1980 8: So it must be hard that they're like living in the.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah. Building. Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: The watchful eye.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah. Of Ivy.
4th of December 1980 8: The King. Next page.
4th of December 1980 8: I can't believe you've got a whole day off, said Richard Goad, as he and Sarah scanned the Sunday papers in the living room.
4th of December 1980 8: I know it's great not having to worry people for a day, she said. It's so bad for her.
4th of December 1980 8: In her hectic schedule, the doorbell rang and Sarah opened the front door.
4th of December 1980 8: It was Dave finder.
4th of December 1980 8: I wondered if I could have a word he said.
4th of December 1980 8: It's about my wife.
4th of December 1980 8: Sarah invited Davey and enlisted.
4th of December 1980 8: Pace listens patiently as he told her that Sue was frightened to go out after her mugging and had had a panic attack when Dave left.
4th of December 1980 8: Robert said so much for not having to worry about people for a day.
4th of December 1980 8: Sixsmith knocked on his tenant cattle Murphy's door no answer, but said was sure he could hear movement.
4th of December 1980 8: He knocked again, then went upstairs and knocked on Dan DAVIES door.
4th of December 1980 8: No reply.
4th of December 1980 8: Although the smell of freshly made toast wafted out into the corridor.
4th of December 1980 8: Got God, the landlords like his.
4th of December 1980 8: It's just like that.
4th of December 1980 8: Like smelling, smelling, smelling.
4th of December 1980 8: If there's humans inside should went back downstairs.
4th of December 1980 8: Well, did you get the rent from them?
4th of December 1980 8: Demanded Ivy Smith.
4th of December 1980 8: They aren't in said said.
4th of December 1980 8: I bet they are, said I've.
4th of December 1980 8: We've got to catch them on the stairs.
4th of December 1980 8: Well I'm not spending all day sitting in the corridor, said said five, said Ivy.
4th of December 1980 8: If we get no rent we don't get Christmas dinner.
4th of December 1980 8: So Sarah said, you'd have to go to your GP and maybe see a specialist If you carry on being nervous about going out.
4th of December 1980 8: They find it.
4th of December 1980 8: Told his wife, Well, that's a fat load of help, replied Sue.
4th of December 1980 8: By the way, I seem to have lost the £10 note.
4th of December 1980 8: Maybe you dropped it in the cinema last night, suggested Dave.
4th of December 1980 8: I suppose I must have done so.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, well, never mind.
4th of December 1980 8: Don't forget you promised to speak to Rob about his schoolwork and the earring.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm more worried about this meeting with the M.D.
4th of December 1980 8: tomorrow.
4th of December 1980 8: I hardly think I'm going to get a pat on the back, said Dave.
4th of December 1980 8: I want to know, like, what's up with his paper and why it's struggling.
4th of December 1980 8: So yeah, maybe he needs work more.
4th of December 1980 8: She said.
4th of December 1980 8: He barely goes to work.
4th of December 1980 8: I think he needs to work like 100 hours. Hmm.
4th of December 1980 8: Right.
4th of December 1980 8: You just need another £5 and we can get our tattoos done.
4th of December 1980 8: Robert finds his friend Jason told him as they wandered around town center.
4th of December 1980 8: And there's this acid house party on next weekend.
4th of December 1980 8: If you fancy it. Acid house. Amazing.
4th of December 1980 8: I don't know if it's actually a house.
4th of December 1980 8: I think it's. No, I think it's a house.
4th of December 1980 8: Is it a house party where they do acid house after party At house party.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: There's like acid house party house phrase.
4th of December 1980 8: Hyphenated acid is one word rather.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean acid house, house hyphenated and then party.
4th of December 1980 8: There's no hyphen here.
4th of December 1980 8: So I think we can choose whatever.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, true.
4th of December 1980 8: Whichever way we want to go with.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, great, replied Robert.
4th of December 1980 8: See you at school tomorrow.
4th of December 1980 8: He went home just in time for Sunday lunch as he passed his sister's room, he noticed a pile of change in a glass bowl.
4th of December 1980 8: He looked around, slipped into the room, took out some pound coins, and started to put them in his pocket.
4th of December 1980 8: He turned round and saw Jane, you thief.
4th of December 1980 8: She said, Oh, turn, turn, turn. Wow.
4th of December 1980 8: Cool.
4th of December 1980 8: Okay, so that's that's we're going to do the final episode now.
4th of December 1980 8: But like, there's a lot that they packed into your day to unpack here.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean it's and it's also interesting, like the social commentary of the time and even the stuff about like generational things like with the tattoos and.
4th of December 1980 8: Right. Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: Like what kind of like blasphemy kind of meant then, which was like basically not paying your rent on time and wearing earrings and stealing.
4th of December 1980 8: I guess stealing was kind of bad.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, I don't know.
4th of December 1980 8: I feel like your values were a bit different, I guess.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, definitely a lot more conservative than the stealing is.
4th of December 1980 8: I imagine the stealing is going to get more and more intense.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, and something will happen.
4th of December 1980 8: Also, tattoo's so cheap and that is true.
4th of December 1980 8: Like 16, £15 for two tattoos.
4th of December 1980 8: And Jason, what did Jason say that he said so.
4th of December 1980 8: So he had he stole ten Rob stole £10 and then Jason said, we just need another five and then we can get our tattoos done.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
4th of December 1980 8: But then again, like this, the value was a lot lower.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, a lot higher.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, but not.
4th of December 1980 8: Not like I feel like tattoo is a very expensive, Bill.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, they're like 60 quid, I think.
4th of December 1980 8: Like a small one.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, that's true.
4th of December 1980 8: No, the, the difference is crazy.
4th of December 1980 8: And it's cool that they're sort of looking at this landlord, landlord and stuff.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: They're all really not likable characters.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, except the guy from the, from the store was like, they're nice old people, but they're not being portrayed nicely at all.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: Also, though, we have to remember this all comes from the mind of Robbie Burns, who has said that he is taking like, revenge on people in his own life.
4th of December 1980 8: So maybe he had some really bad experiences with the landlord and like, I got to get that on paper.
4th of December 1980 8: All right, so let's skip to very final episode.
4th of December 1980 8: So this is episode 1445.
4th of December 1980 8: So that's there's been a lot of story that's happened.
4th of December 1980 8: It is Wednesday, the 30th of December 1992.
4th of December 1980 8: So we're going to do the story so far was pretty much the same in all this other ones, but it's quite different now.
4th of December 1980 8: So the story so far, Sarah and Harriet are being attacked by what they think is Richard's ghost may Harriet is hit by a book.
4th of December 1980 8: The rector is also scared when he tries to exorcize the ghost, Jane wins her battle, her grades are improved and lecturer Richards is suspended.
4th of December 1980 8: But Richards threatens Jane near her landlady.
4th of December 1980 8: This house, they find, is working on a brilliant scheme which he'll reveal on New Year's Eve.
4th of December 1980 8: Karl comes back on Christmas Day and is reunited with Mary.
4th of December 1980 8: Okay, so like the drama has significantly increased real shift in genre turned to a psychedelic horror.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: That acid house party really changed people.
4th of December 1980 8: Okay, so some new characters here.
4th of December 1980 8: Harriet is the rector.
4th of December 1980 8: Jane is the daughter.
4th of December 1980 8: I think the one that was like you sees.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, yeah, They find her still there.
4th of December 1980 8: Mm. And Sarah was the one that was at the hospital, right?
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah. Okay. All right.
4th of December 1980 8: This is firstly, this isn't capital, which is insane.
4th of December 1980 8: How are you feeling? Richter asked.
4th of December 1980 8: Sarah.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm all so the clergyman sitting up in bed at the hospital.
4th of December 1980 8: I think they're going to discharge you, said Sarah, you've got a bit of a nasty gash.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm very worried about this violent, ghostly presence of yours at the Rector.
4th of December 1980 8: It's Richard, said Sarah.
4th of December 1980 8: Even when he's dead, he causes trouble.
4th of December 1980 8: Okay.
4th of December 1980 8: It's Richard, the curse Richard got right.
4th of December 1980 8: So Richard is her husband from earlier, and she was cheating on him.
4th of December 1980 8: Going to cheat on him with that?
4th of December 1980 8: With Paul.
4th of December 1980 8: So? So Richard died at some point, so she's free.
4th of December 1980 8: I just realized that now that, you know, I was like, why is it in capitals how you feel Like they've just changed the format and now every new page starts in capitals.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, okay.
4th of December 1980 8: That makes sense.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm not going to do with that.
4th of December 1980 8: You can do it that way.
4th of December 1980 8: You want it to be good.
4th of December 1980 8: Like dramatic start.
4th of December 1980 8: Just to wait to wake our audience up.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, Myanmar are staying with you and Dave, said Sarah, it doesn't seem safe to stay in the house because it's all because it's not that.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, I'll have to consult people in the church who have more expertise in this than myself, said the Rector.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, no more exorcists, Alice.
4th of December 1980 8: He doesn't seem to be following us around, said Sarah.
4th of December 1980 8: I do feel that Ghost is very dangerous, said the rector.
4th of December 1980 8: One of you could easily be killed.
4th of December 1980 8: Stay away from the house, okay?
4th of December 1980 8: Absolutely. Everyone.
4th of December 1980 8: Was it Dave and Sue's New Year's Eve party?
4th of December 1980 8: Jane had brought Andy, who was hopeful they were going to get back together.
4th of December 1980 8: Don and Angela looked happy.
4th of December 1980 8: Carl and Mariam held and looked very much like a couple in love.
4th of December 1980 8: Jocasta and Mary danced happily to the music.
4th of December 1980 8: Sarah and Harriet chatted to Terri, whose eyes opened wide when he heard of the ghost haunting the house.
4th of December 1980 8: At a party just before midnight, Dave called everyone together.
4th of December 1980 8: He held what looked like hundreds of pages of computer printouts in his hand.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, the computer is introduced.
4th of December 1980 8: I think Hector, our friend Ray, our friends, the confused friend, the computer character.
4th of December 1980 8: Someone turned the music off.
4th of December 1980 8: This could be too good to miss.
4th of December 1980 8: I hope this is good.
4th of December 1980 8: After all the big build up, said Sue.
4th of December 1980 8: My friends, the computer said, Dave, What I have to say may come as a shock, but I do think you'll find it interesting at the end of my page what I hold in my hand.
4th of December 1980 8: A details of all your lives and the events that have happened in the Avenue in the last four years, he said.
4th of December 1980 8: Just think of it all my battles at the paper, my wife leaving me and coming back.
4th of December 1980 8: Mariam getting kidnaped, Kojo stealing money to gamble the siege.
4th of December 1980 8: Siege, of course, Sid and Ivy Smith winning a million.
4th of December 1980 8: All those landlords want $1,000,000.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh God.
4th of December 1980 8: Richard Ratings, Sarah The failure of the Hotel Ivy Seeing aliens, Jane burning and these clothes to name but a few things.
4th of December 1980 8: What about the evil twins?
4th of December 1980 8: Do they come round at some point? God, I don't know.
4th of December 1980 8: What's that? What's the final page?
4th of December 1980 8: And read it out?
4th of December 1980 8: Dave continued.
4th of December 1980 8: Basically, I've written a soap called Park Avenue and you know, ceefax the teletext service.
4th of December 1980 8: It's going to screen all these adventures as a written soap.
4th of December 1980 8: It'll be on the air every day and it'll revolve around everything that's happened.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm going to give you all a percentage of the money.
4th of December 1980 8: My pseudonym will be Robbie Burns.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: Oh, my God.
4th of December 1980 8: It's like the Matrix.
4th of December 1980 8: Well, forgive me, said Carl Cattle.
4th of December 1980 8: I've been saying this whole time, the end and that is, says Dash.
4th of December 1980 8: Ah I, I, I may have degraded, I would say yeah, that's a really good meta ending.
4th of December 1980 8: I like that.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm shocked by all the things that happened in the four years I know.
4th of December 1980 8: I kind of want to know about them, but also maybe not.
4th of December 1980 8: But yeah, it's interesting what you said earlier about how it's written by Robbie Burns, who has like obviously this built up this kind of distrust in his community, from his community.
4th of December 1980 8: And he's obviously like, yeah, I've written out the story.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, yeah, I guess it's like, I like that Robbie Burns, the real life Robbie put himself and let credit himself in the final, final.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: But also interesting that, that like then in this way it's like the real world and the teletext world coming together.
4th of December 1980 8: And what does that mean about Robbie Burns then?
4th of December 1980 8: Like if you look back at all the shit that Dave that Dave did that was in our weird combined universe, that means that was Robbie Totally.
4th of December 1980 8: And then also like, it's very ironic that the computer was introduced in that last scene.
4th of December 1980 8: Like, why did they mention the computer, when then like towards the end he was like, Oh, it's all going to be written on Ceefax until it is.
4th of December 1980 8: But it's funny.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, I don't know if they like, put that much thought into it, but it's interesting to think about his then computer printouts, which is just like printed text.
4th of December 1980 8: So I guess that he the idea is that he's been like secretly typing this for years, which makes sense because he's a journalist in your early hours saying, Oh, it's meant to be describing that day that it's being broadcast.
4th of December 1980 8: Yet this is basically saying it's four years late.
4th of December 1980 8: So like for the past four years, he's been writing down everything happened.
4th of December 1980 8: So have we.
4th of December 1980 8: And then it's going to be broadcast on the teletext.
4th of December 1980 8: So it's like, have we actually what we've been what we were what people had been reading every day.
4th of December 1980 8: Is that actually like his private notes or is that this was like set in four years early.
4th of December 1980 8: Don't know. There's just a lot.
4th of December 1980 8: I feel like there's a lot in there to unpack.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, multiple Trixie definitely because yeah I mean the fact that like the telex, this telex soap opera was aired on the day that it was said for the story to be happening, then yeah, the fact that you said that that was actually all in the past, it means that like it in like IRA time when people were reading these these stories every day, they were actually like, looking into the future.
4th of December 1980 8: That's quite cool.
4th of December 1980 8: That's a fun little play on time.
4th of December 1980 8: What what do you think about, like the idea that this was a really popular soap that ran every day for four years?
4th of December 1980 8: They're really short.
4th of December 1980 8: It's a really like digestible chunk of text.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, it's basically just like, you know, three or four tiny little paragraphs.
4th of December 1980 8: And it's I can I can imagine that happening if you don't have like other forms of entertainment with ceefax.
4th of December 1980 8: But it is also like really, really similar to The Archers on BBC Radio four, which to be fair, I do listen to what I like cooking my dinner on, on like a Sunday or something.
4th of December 1980 8: How long the episodes?
4th of December 1980 8: Oh God, I don't know.
4th of December 1980 8: Maybe 15, 20 minutes.
4th of December 1980 8: Like not that long.
4th of December 1980 8: But even if you skip, like, even if you skip an episode, you.
4th of December 1980 8: There's still the same characters and everything happens really slowly and there's like, drama and gossip.
4th of December 1980 8: Good things, bad things happen, but you're able to kind of like make sense of the general gist of the story with missing a couple of episodes because the people are obviously busy.
4th of December 1980 8: So it's kind of a nice like chill way of following a soap opera, which isn't so like intense and heavy as it is now, where you like binge watch Netflix TV shows and it takes up like, you know, a day or two of your life and then like, lost that time basically.
4th of December 1980 8: So I can imagine it being popular.
4th of December 1980 8: It's cool to see the way that they've made drama and like intrigue just through text. Mhm.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean I guess the, the there are like dramatic kind of soap opera books and things but I guess I think of soap opera as being very visual and audio based especially like people's reactions.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah. I think yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: They played a lot with the fact that it was really dialog heavy but also because it was so minimal, like it allows for so much imagination for the reader.
4th of December 1980 8: That's really cool.
4th of December 1980 8: I like that it's minimal even though we are into maximalism now, I guess.
4th of December 1980 8: I mean, you and me, we and our website are into maximalism, but yeah, yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: Park Avenue on our website.
4th of December 1980 8: Well, thanks for reading that with me.
4th of December 1980 8: Thank you.
4th of December 1980 8: That was really fun.
4th of December 1980 8: We had a laugh going to work on my British British accent, something I've been doing for like ten years and I.
4th of December 1980 8: So next episode we're going to go back to a heavy research, one that's looking at the Japanese video text network.
4th of December 1980 8: Captain, do you have any updates?
4th of December 1980 8: What's happening with external pages, external pages kind of on a hold at the moment?
4th of December 1980 8: I've just been I've just been like working and like traveling a lot.
4th of December 1980 8: So so my seeing my mom and my friends in various countries.
4th of December 1980 8: So yeah, I've, I've been slacking a little bit with my like digital creative things, but that's fine too.
4th of December 1980 8: I'm just slacking, you know, It's not acting, it's not slacking because nothing was like nothing was set up in the first place for for for next steps.
4th of December 1980 8: So that's the key. That's the key.
4th of December 1980 8: I just don't want any don't set up.
4th of December 1980 8: Don't expect anything.
4th of December 1980 8: What about you?
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, I've got a couple. I'm working on a few things.
4th of December 1980 8: I've got I've got a few sort of writing projects that I've got coming out soon to be nice.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, just developing a bit of film that I'm starting to develop.
4th of December 1980 8: And I just finished a film project that might be showing screening sometime soon, so maybe I'll have some snacks.
4th of December 1980 8: First episode, maybe. Yeah.
4th of December 1980 8: So thanks everyone for being with us for this.
4th of December 1980 8: If you want to read the rest of them.
4th of December 1980 8: This, you know, more than half of them are available.
4th of December 1980 8: It's at New Mailbox UK, which is the Park Avenue Archives, and they have a great Twitter account.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah, we'll put all the accounts and links in the show notes which you can check on our website.
4th of December 1980 8: But yeah, thanks everyone and we'll see you next time.
4th of December 1980 8: Yeah. Bye bye.