Lesson 17: The Journey of Awakening Begins

Lesson 17: The Journey of the Soul
Section 4: The Journey of Awakening Begins
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Ever feel like you’re doing life “right” and still missing the point? We explore how identity gets shaped by family, culture, and the systems we grow up in—and what it takes to stop performing and start living from the inside out. Drawing on Jeshua’s teaching that most of us begin as a “bundle of reactivity,” we unpack why approval-seeking and safety-chasing run the show in our early years and how genuine awakening starts when we question the scripts we inherited.

I walk through the messy beauty of the 20s: the rush of freedom, the turbulence of consequences, and the illusion that we already know ourselves. Then we enter the 30s, when individuation deepens and the soul’s voice gets louder. We explore a practical framework of consciousness—life happens to me, for me, from me, life is—and show how it can shift daily choices around work, love, and purpose. Along the way, I share personal pivots from chasing status to choosing alignment, the role of spiritual psychology in reframing my path, and the practices that keep me rooted when old patterns try to reclaim the wheel.

We also map generational conditioning with compassion—those family slogans and silent rules that kept prior generations safe but may keep us small. By surfacing patterns without blame, we gain freedom to honor our lineage while choosing new responses. Expect real talk on career crossroads, the pressure to “have it together,” and the steady movement from outside-in living to presence-driven choice. If you’ve felt the nudge to slow down, get honest, and build a life that fits from the inside, this conversation meets you right where you are.

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Transcript

Setting The Stage: Awakening

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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Living the Way of Mastery. I'm Jason Amaroso, your guide and friend and fellow student, always a student, and today we continue lesson 17, The Journey of the Soul, section four titled The Journey of Awakening Begins. Jeshua continues, therefore, the journey of awakening requires from the moment of birth on the development of certain motor skills, certain verbal skills, certain social skills, so that hopefully, if you are very lucky, by the time you are about 20 or 21 years of age, you're ready to start finding out who you in italics, who you are. It is very, very rare for an individual, especially in your cultural time frame, to emerge at the age of 10 or 12 or 14 or 17 with a deep sense of themselves apart from, and that's an italics, apart from the parents, the family, or the culture. So Jeshua is just laying it out, our modern human experience. From the moment of birth, you learn how to walk and you learn how to talk and you learn how to get on with life and get along with other people, at least to some degree in society. And he says, if you're very lucky, by the time you're 20 or 21, you're ready to start finding out who you are. Because up until then, you traditionally, at least in Western culture, you are in the system. Unless you're not, but you're in the system. You go to school, you get socialized, and a lot of it is your parents and your culture and your friends and the environment that you grow up in. And you're doing what you think you should be doing, what you're told to do. You're doing the school or the work or whatever it is when you're a young person, again, at least in the West here. And you don't even really think about deeper questions like who am I? You feel like you're invincible. Uh I I know when I was that age, before, even before 20, like my whole thing was just what are you supposed to do to be successful in life? And my parents were go to school, get a good education. Then I went to grad school, I went to law school, and then you try and get the best job you can at the best firm or the best, you know, name, status, whatever you can do, build your resume, get experience, even through college, right? When you're a teenager, what do you need to do to have a good uh application for colleges? Do you need to volunteer? Do you need to do well in your testing? Like all the things. It's just feels like a part of a system of this is how you do things. And for me, what was big was relationships, athletics, music, sports, and relationships. So I started dating my now wife when I was 16 years old. And that was like the biggest thing for me. I didn't care about anything else. Friends, girls, sports, and just kind of keep doing what I needed to do to move through the system. And so I wasn't thinking about like, well, who am I at a deeper level? I mean, I was always more maybe philosophical or um, I don't know, mindful, but still, I'm uh let's be honest. Like I wanted to hang out, I wanted to have fun, I wanted to play, do the things that were fun. And he says it's very, very rare for an individual, especially in our cultural time frame. And I mean, I grew up in the 90s. I was born in set in November of 79. So I grew up like my teenage years were in, I think, the 90s. That's how I identify myself, like a 90s kid. And now we're 30 years later, something like that. I'm not doing quick math in my head, but 30 years later. And this cultural time frame is vastly different from the 90s. And I believe this book, and I I gotta double check, but I believe the book was written around the 2000s, or it wasn't written, it was channeled around the 2000s. So even 25 years, 26 years now from the year 2000 is a totally different culture that we live in with technology advancing as fast as it is in the internet. And so he says to emerge at the age of 10, 12, 14, or even 17 with a deep sense of yourself apart from your parents, the family of the culture is very, very rare. And I mean, I would agree. I would agree. Although now you hear, if you're interested in these things, you'll hear more and more stories coming out of, I think a while ago they were called indigo children, then they were called Rainbow Children. And you see these stories on social media of these kids that come in with memories of other lifetimes. They come in with a certain level of higher consciousness. So it, but it is still, I would say that's the exception. It's still very, very rare. And again, if you if you even take like the spirituality out of it, this section's kind of talking about the the, at least again, in the West, I'm not sure about all cultures, but like the progression of a person. Spoiler alert, we'll get to kind of what I think he's talking about as the midlife crisis in your 40s. But we're not there yet. But that's really what he's talking about. In your 20s, in your teens, you're trying to figure out in a way, like, who am I outside of my family, outside of the identity of my family and my culture, and we rebel in our teens, and we try and find out who we are. And then we progress and we go out on our own, and we find out more about ourselves. And so let's continue with what Jeshu's saying. He says, You think you are yourself, but you are really, in italics, a bundle of reactivity. I love that. That might be the title of this episode: a bundle of reactivity, seeking to find approval, seeking to find safety, survival, friendship, and the world. That is, you are already caught up in the perception that what you experience is coming to you from the outside. I might even say coming at you from the outside, and that you must therefore seek to adapt yourself to it. You are not yet alive. I love that last line. You're not yet alive. You're not alive if you're still living an outside in world. And we know there's so many people who may never live an inside-out world and they're outside in their entire life. Because I don't want to like whatever. It's like the matrix. They're in the matrix. Uh and again, Jesus says there's Jeshua says in the Way Mastery, there's really no rush. So you can get lost in the matrix for as long as you want until you're ready to maybe see something different. You're ready to uh wake up, so to speak, because he uses the words awakening. So you think you are yourself when you're in your 20s and your teens, but you're really just reacting to your conditioning, your programming. We know that when children are born to the age of around seven, I think the brain state is theta. I need to just remember this, but they're in like a theta brain state where basically they're just sponges. We, you, I, we're just a sponge soaking up not just what we observed, but really the energy of the environment, as he talks about in the previous section about being in the womb. Like we are energetic beings, and thoughts and energy is being broadcasted, kind of like Wi-Fi signals, all the time. And we're being influenced by that, especially when we're in this open state. And he says we're just seeking, and everyone can relate to this, right? Especially when you're a teenager, and even I mean, even when you become an adult, if you don't realize it, but seeking to find approval. I just want somebody to approve of me and love me as I am. I we're seeking to find safety and survival and friendship in the world. Where's my place? Where do I belong? And of course, when we're teenagers and on, we rebel in that sense. And we can we can be emo. Emo was big in the 90s. Like we can be goth, that was another thing. Like, you know, we we take on these identities to kind of find our own identity. Who am I? And this goes along with the chakra work. We teach the chakra work in our Revelation Breath Work Facilitator training, that this is representative of the second chakra and the third chakra. The second chakra is relationship to other, money, sex, power, control. So my relationship is like the teenage years, where the root chakra is survival, safety. That's like when we're firstborn. And then the second chakra is more relationship to other. And then the third chakra is more relationship to self, my own sense of self, self-worth, self-love, self-esteem. So the, I mean, it's perfect, right? It's and and it's all connected. So all of these beautiful teachings from different traditions, they all fit together. The chakra system is exactly what Jeshua is talking about in terms of our development as a human being. We're just a bundle of reactivity. And we want to feel safe. We want to know that we have friends, that we belong, that we fit in. And he says that is, you are already caught up in the perception that what you experience is coming to you, at you from the outside. Life happenings happens to me, and I have to adjust and adapt and find a way to survive with what's happening in the world at large, in my personal world. We can all relate to that. And let's just be honest, I'll be honest, as much as I am a student and a teacher of the way of mastery, I still feel at times that the world is happening to me, and then I need to kind of write my thinking and see things clearly. And of course, practices like meditation and journaling and affirmations and reading the studying the way of mastery and doing the podcast are things to remind me on the daily that life is not happening to me, and I don't have to just be a bundle of reactivity. And so we have this perception that we need to adapt ourselves to life and not the other way around, that we are, in a way, victims to life, that we are at the mercy of life. And yes, the empowered side of that, well, uh I'm at the mercy of life, life's happening to me, but it's how I respond that makes the difference. But it's still in this paradigm of life happening to me. And then I've shared this before, the kind of the four levels of consciousness. It's all like made-up constructs, but it's interesting to think about. The the first level is life happens to me or at me. And the empowered version of that is, well, how I respond makes all the difference. True. The second level of consciousness is, well, life is happening for me. So life is still this force outside, but now it's a friendly force and not a you know imposing punitive uh force against me that I have to adapt to and adjust to. And then the third level of consciousness is that life is happening from me, that my soul is a creative force, that life happens from me, where I a lot of ways, a lot of the way of mastery, that I'm the creator of everything I experience. Life is happening from me. And then the fourth level of consciousness, which is just simply life is. Life is. That's it. Anyways, okay, back to this. He says, you are a bundle of reactivity, and you're just trying to find safety and survival and friendship in the world. We can all relate to that, and that we are caught up in this idea that life is happening and we have to adjust and modify and try and get by in the world. And Jeshua says, you're not alive yet. If you're living like that, you're not actually alive. And of course, physiologically, you're alive, we understand. But he's speaking in in metaphor here, or maybe not, like you're not alive yet. You're not awake yet if you're living this way. And most of us live this way. It's it's kind of part of the part of the program of the human experience. So we can take the judgment out of it. We can take the, oh, well, I had my awakening at 12, and you didn't have yours till you were 50, so I'm more enlightened. Like that's ego bullshit. We know that. But let's like, this is the the general human experience, at least in our modern times. And then he says, if you are very fortunate, during the time frame of the 20s, you merely experience greater degrees of freedom, greater degrees of making your own decisions and experiencing the outcomes. This can be a very turbulent time. Still, you will believe in italics, believe that you know yourself, and yet you have not even begun to know yourself. Again, this is for the majority. I remember, as I as I mentioned, my wife and I started dating when we when I was 16. She was, I think, 17, she was a senior, I was a junior, and we hooked up and uh we started dating. And we've pretty much been together ever since. We took a little break for a year and a half uh when we were in grad school in California, we got back together married and have four beautiful boys. They're men now, but um, I I always remember in high school hearing somebody in my family, I won't reveal who, saying, You you don't you don't know what love is until you're 40. And I always thought that was um so silly, because I was certain, even as a teenager, that I loved my partner, my girlfriend, who, of course, now is my wife. And I would agree. Now, maybe our experience of love changes or shifts or matures, but it's so interesting how like look at here's an here's an exercise. What did your parents say when you were younger? What were like the sayings in the family? For example, like, life's not fair, money doesn't grow on trees, you can't find, you don't know what love is until you're 40. Like, what are the little sayings that your grandparents said, that your parents said? And just see, like, in a way, when we're younger, it's conditioning, it's programming. We don't really know any better. We're just trying to fit in with the family. First chakra, the tribe, we want to feel safe. We want to be able to fit in and belong and not be cast out. So that first chakra in the family, like we get along to get along. And then as we mature, we have other ideas that feel more resonant with the kind of life and the and the and the philosophy that we want to live by. And so we start to have this conflict. Oh my goodness. And then the immature ways to make your parents wrong. Well, my parents, they didn't know what the hell they were doing. They fucked me up. Look at how limiting they were, look at how judgmental they were. And we don't we don't stay open to, well, they're a product. Their conditioning was a product of their parents and their parents and their parents and the environment and the culture that you grew up in and they grew up in. So it's like so much more at play, and it's not about blaming our parents, it's about understanding. It's about being curious and seeing how these things influence down the line and through generations and get passed on. And I would say, and then this isn't a hard and fast rule generally, that each generation, let's say, heals a little bit more or becomes a little more conscious and awake. Not always, but for a general rule. Like, let's say my father did a better, quote unquote, better job than his father at certain things. And I think I'm doing a better job than my father at certain things. And I'm sure my sons are gonna do a better job than their fathers than I did. Not because I don't know. I'm doing the best that I can. We're all doing the best that we can, but it's just the evolution, let's say, of consciousness in a family system. So, and now to bring it back to the way mastery in spiritual psychology, uh, this is not just about like DNA and my ancestors. This is about soul family and groups where we're like, hey, let's go in together in this group, in this environment. You know, this this lifetime, let me be, I'll be your father. In the next lifetime, I'll be your mother, in the next lifetime, you'll be my mother, like whatever. You know, it's the we're we're traveling in in kind of groups of angels together in Earth School to have these experiences, to wake up more and more, to expand in our love. So it's a totally different context than um just being a human being coming from a physiological or genetic lineage. But I digress as I usually do. Jeshua says, in your 20s, you're just experiencing greater degrees of freedom. So now let's say if you go the traditional, I use that in finger quotes, the traditional route. If you went to college, you get out of college, and you get a you get a job. And you try My parents were not entrepreneurs. I'm an entrepreneur now. It's a totally different life than being an employee. So now my kids though, see, that's the interesting thing. My kids have two parents that are entrepreneurs. And our lifestyle and life and the way that we work and we relate to our work is vastly different than my parents, who grew up in, you know, their parents were born like were in the Great Depression, and my parents were born in like the late 40s. So they grew up more in what, the 60s. And it was like, no, get a good education, get a good, stable job. My dad was a lawyer, my mom was a teacher, both good, stable jobs. And there's nothing wrong with that. Now, but now me and my wife were entrepreneurs. That's never stable. It's amazing. It's it's so rewarding, and it can be, you know, it can be lucrative and it can also not be lucrative. There's cycles to entrepreneurship, but it's like that's a totally different life than what my parents grew up in. Maybe I chose entrepreneurship as a quote unquote rebellion for their, you know, stable life. Like, oh, just getting there, but there is something to be said for that, and I can appreciate that, especially having four kids. There's a lot to be said for having a steady paycheck. And then I'm not there yet, but having a pension, and who knows globally and financially what's happening if pensions are even going to be around. But, anyways, there is something to be said about having a stable job when you have a young family, when you have a family and kids and you have to provide. And I remember being in my 20s, like not really knowing that. And like, in a way, I'll just be honest, like shitting on that. Not necessarily like shitting on my dad, but like shitting on that way of thinking. Oh, it's just about safety. You're just afraid to go for your dreams. I would kind of, I wouldn't say that out loud and I wouldn't think it that directly, but like there would be a part of that for me. But I've matured and I've seen life from all different views. I've seen both sides now as uh, you know, oh my gosh, I can't remember the name of it. And I'm the the amazing singer. Anyways, I've seen life from both sides now. So J, but again, that was as I was in my 30s and 40s, not in my 20s, as Jeshu was saying, where you're getting greater degrees of freedom, greater degrees of making your own decisions. Just look back in your own life. And this can be a very turbulent time, yeah, because we're still, you know, the law says that you're an adult at 18 and you can drink at 21 and you can vote at 18 and go to war at 18, and but you can't rent a house or rent a car until you're 25 because your prefrontal cortex isn't even developed by the time you're until you're 25. So it's like so much also conflicting, confusing information. No, the vast majority of young people are not really adults. 20, like early 20s. Now, culture is shifting, honestly, now. Uh there's a lot of research and data showing that young people are not drinking. They're not drinking nearly as much as previous generations. Now, maybe they're vaping and smoking more pot uh and doing other drugs, but they're not really, but I would actually say, I uh, you know, and this isn't based on any data, I would say not really. I think they're doing less of that stuff because in my experience, this is just my own kids and what I see in other families around. My kids are everywhere from 20 to 13 and being in that high school and early college age. It's like kids don't go out as much anymore. They're on the video games talking to each other. They're still social, but in a different way. They're not going out to house parties, there's not kegs. At least that's when I grew up. There was, you know, you try and get a house party where the parents weren't home and they had kegs. That was like the best. I think I went to like two of those in high school, and you'd hope some shenanigans took place. But it's like kids don't really do that as much anymore. Bars are closing, the whole alcohol industry is shifting because people aren't drinking. So I think things are shifting in in this day and age. Anyways, it's a very turbulent time, Jeshua says. And he says, still you will, with all these kind of freedoms of making your own decisions and experiencing the outcomes, finally maybe having consequences in your life when you're out living on your own, still you will believe that you know yourself. Oh, I know who I am. And yet you have not even begun to know yourself. And again, this is for the majority. And we'll go into the 30s here. As you go into your 30s, there is an opportunity now. Spirit begins to speak to you. Well, I'll just say I spirit's always speaking to us, but I would say we start to listen. Um, situations begin to emerge that require of you deeper understanding. If you are very fortunate, you will have begun to realize the great influence that the parents have had. Usually, this is a state of rebellion. Internally, you will begin to individuate more clearly. The spiritual search often begins in the 30s in earnest. You may have been aware of that earlier in the 20s. Again, this is not a hard and fast rule. But generally, by the thirties, it is time to truly in italics, truly begin to answer the yearning of the soul. When I was in I I mine started a little bit earlier when I was in my early twenties, I was in law school. And I interned at the LA Dodgers. I wanted to be the next, you know, maybe not hotshot GM, but I wanted to be one of these GMs of baseball, the architect of a team, putting pieces together, negotiations, trades, talent evaluation. Like I loved that. I did uh what is now called fantasy baseball. Back when I was a kid, it was called rotisserie baseball, uh, because the original very, very small fact that only maybe one or two people who are listening will get. That rotisserie baseball was started at a rotisserie chicken restaurant. That's why they called it rotisserie baseball. Then they turned it into fantasy baseball. And I think that sparked a whole generation. Now kids are more addicted and into sports gambling than they are fantasy sports. That's a whole other issue. But I'm just sharing my own personal journey. I was in law school at in Pepperdine in Malibu, and I wanted to be the next Hotshot GM. And my buddy was working at the LA Dodgers, and then he be later became the and still is uh the general manager of one of the major league baseball sports teams, which is really, really cool. And it's really interesting to be a part of that and see what he goes through. And and I actually um yeah. So, anyways, uh uh you know, I'm trying to have this balance of um of uh privacy, but also I've shared things on the podcast and publicly that I've worked for the San Diego Padres for seven seasons. Um but I was at the Dodgers when I was in law school in my early 20s. And then my wife and I got married and we got pregnant with our first kid, and we had been going to uh this is Agape International Spiritual Center. I was probably about 25, 26. I think I was 24 when we got married, 25 when we got pregnant, and we were going to Agape International Spiritual Center, which is led by Reverend Michael Beckwith. He is the man. Um you've probably seen him uh all over spiritual, modern spiritual things from Oprah to um his own podcast to everywhere. Michael, Reverend Michael Beckwith. Check him out. He's awesome. Um and we started, my wife and I started taking classes at Agape, that's what it's called, Agape International Spiritual Center, about spirituality and exploring this part of our lives. And my cousin who lived in San Diego, she's a bit older than me, she's about 12 to 13 years older than me. She moved from Long Island to San Diego when she was younger and is very spiritual. And so when I moved out to California to go to law school, uh she got me into things like the Celestine Prophecy and um oh my gosh, what's the other one? Oh my gosh, the one in the desert with the treasure. Ah, I'm having uh brain farts today. And um, so I was I was exploring my spirituality, what one does when they move out to Southern California, and um oh my God. Okay, early 20s. Um and so we went to agape, and then we were pregnant with our first kid, and I was still working uh interning at the Dodgers uh at the time. And we had a substitute teacher at our hypnobirthing class. So my wife was doing hypnobirthing for our first kid, and we had a substitute teacher, and she said uh she was kind of introducing herself to the class, and she mentioned that she had a master's degree in spiritual psychology, and immediately both mine and my wife's ears perked up. And I said, I want to do that. My wife was pregnant, so I did it. I applied, University of Santa Monica. It's such a shame it doesn't really exist the way that it did. Um, it was a brick and mortar school for m decades with uh teachers Ron and Mary Hulnick, who are much older now, and they didn't really pass off the school to anyone, so it just kind of stopped. There's an online presence, but it's definitely not the same that it was. And books, by the way, and I know I'm all over the place today, and fuck it, that's okay. Um, if you want some really good books, one is Loyalty by Ron and Mary Hulnick, the main teachers at University of Santa Monica, where I got my master's in spiritual psychology. The first one is loyalty to your soul. Loyalty to your soul. And the second book they wrote was Remembering the Light Within. And which, by the way, spiritual psychology in my that program changed my life. It was a two-year program, and it changed my entire life and way of seeing myself and the world and relating to life. And it's it was the way of mastery before the way of mastery. Because after I graduated that program, I stumbled into uh I stumbled into the disappearance of the universe by Gary Renard and his wife, I knew her at University of Santa Monica. And then I got into Course in Miracles and studied that, like literally, I've mentioned this line by line with the journey through the text, journey through the workbook, journey through the teacher's manual. Those are three different volumes with Kenneth Wapnick. And then I found the way of mastering. So, anyways, in my early to mid-20s, about 25, is when I went to the University of Santa Monica. And I was I was a lawyer at the Dodgers at the time. So I was able to turn my internship into being uh an associate count, being the associate counsel at the LA Dodgers. And so the whole thing of spiritual psychology at USM was about who am I, why am I here, and how can I make a more meaningful contribution in the world. So I was already, I would call it having a quote unquote quarter life crisis because this traditional path that I had kind of been raised in, like get a good job, like all these things, and again, we're so good and are very honorable and important for certain people at certain times. I was like, I don't like my parents got divorced when I was probably, I don't know, between eight and 10. And so when my wife got pregnant with our first kid, I didn't want to give my life to baseball and work 24-7, 365. And that was before I was an attorney in the Dodgers. Uh, when I first started after interning, I was in the baseball operations. I was trying to be the next GM, fantasy baseball dream come true. And I realized that I had to sacrifice more than I was willing to sacrifice. So it was like that was my whole dream up until that point to be a GM of a major league baseball team. And I was on track for that at 25, 26 years old. And then my wife got pregnant and I had to make it a really hard time. Who am I if I'm not doing this? What is what's my purpose? What is my life about? And I'm going through USM at the same time asking these deeper questions. It was an incredible time in my mid-20s. But some people don't have that experience, as Jeshu was saying, until their 30s. Or some people don't even have it until their 40s, where like the midlife crisis usually smacks you over the side of the head, and you can either use it or you can go down the route of not using it, and that's I think a lot more painful. Um but, anyways, I digress. I went off on story time today. I hope it wasn't too confusing. But Jeshua's saying, um yeah, internally in your 30s, you begin to individuate more clearly. You things arise that require you to have a deeper understanding, like I was saying about my father and you know, poo-pooing this idea of having a stable job. And then all of a sudden I have my first kid or two, and I'm like, oh, I get why he was encouraging me to have a stable job and to have a good profession and to start a career. In my mid-20s, I was like, a career. Who wants a career? I'm trying to figure out what I want to do. I don't want to just settle in and do one thing forever. That that seems like soul crushing. But now I get it. And I started to get it when I started having kids, the realities of quote unquote the world, so to speak. And you and going through USM, a lot of the work we did was inner work. And we looked at our whole family tree. We looked at our whole family tree and and we looked at the patterns. We mapped it out, not just like the names, but the issues. Oh, so like, look, there's a lineage of divorce and the male sides of my family, and my mom's side going back, and I'm just making things up right now because I don't remember it. Like, there's a bunch of alcoholics, and oh, look, here's like eight patterns of like sons being disowned by their parents. It was really cool, not just to do the family tree of like the names and the ages and where they came from, but like the issues. And you start to see the generational patterns. We did that at USM in my mid-20s. So I had a deeper understanding of these patterns, and then it was like, oh, I needed to bring healing to those things and have a deeper understanding, bring more love to those parts of myself and the program and conditioning, and just say, Who am I now? How do I want to live? What's important to me? Started asking those questions. And he says the spiritual search often begins in the 30s in earnest. And you may have been aware of that earlier in the 20s, but the 30s is where you get more serious about it. And he says, not a hard and fast rule, this is a generality. And it's time to truly begin to answer the yearning of the soul. So, anyways, thanks for listening. I was all over the place. I had fun. I hope you had fun too. If you get value from the podcast, like, subscribe, share, give us a good review if you can, wherever you're listening, and share it with a friend if you thought of them. And uh send me an email, hello at revelationbreathwork.com. I would love to hear from you. And I'll reply back. Even simply it's just like, hey, thanks for reaching out. Glad to be on the journey with you, because I'm on the journey with you. Love you. Have a great day. And uh, I'm hoping to be a little more consistent and active in the podcast in February of 2026, which is where we are right now. Lots of love.