What is education? This is the question that we address in this new episode of the Le Nouvel Esprit Podcast, especially in light of the necessary I and thou relationship between teachers and students. This is in opposition of the industrial model, composed of an I and it relationship instead of I and thou, and resulting in propaganda. Sadly, this is what we see today. Join us as we delve into this topic and propose various ideas of where to go from here, as well as shedding light on beacons of hope.