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I.E Media Podcast
Welcome to the I.E. Media Podcast, hosted by Martin “Marty” Hardy — one of the original voices behind the long-running alternative talk show The Kev Baker Show, which reached global audiences online and even aired on FM radio in Oregon via the TFR Network.
In the early days of KBS, Marty was part of a creative team that helped bring the show to life — researching topics, lining up guests, and even voice acting for custom intros and jingles. With over 350 episodes under his belt, he’s now channeling that experience into his own platform.
I.E. Media is all about real conversations, big ideas, and untold stories — from eye-opening interviews and personal journeys to thought-provoking topics like technology, music, culture, and the mysteries of life.
Tune in for engaging content that’s insightful, entertaining, and always down-to-earth.
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I.E Media Podcast
Young Bolton Rapper "KJTHAKID" Shares His Come-Up | EP 25 “I'm Just Getting Started"
In this episode of the I.E. Media Podcast, host Marty Hardy speaks with KJTHAKID, a young rapper from Bolton who’s building his voice in the UK rap scene. KJ opens up about his early musical influences, the impact of his father Robbie MC, and how dropping his first track sparked a deeper commitment to his craft.
He shares what it’s like navigating school, homeschooling, and the challenges of staying authentic in a scene where many artists fake their stories. KJ also talks about balancing music with boxing, engaging his audience through TikTok and Snapchat, and using songwriting as a form of therapy.
From meeting Bugsy Malone to working with top Manchester engineer Bradley Boyer, this episode is a powerful glimpse into the mindset of a young artist determined to level up—track by track.
Topics Discussed:
- Starting out in a bedroom studio
- Meeting Bugsy Malone and going viral
- Family support and his dad’s musical legacy
- Navigating school and shifting to homeschooling
- Gaining momentum through social media (TikTok, Snapchat, YouTube)
- Working with engineer Bradley Boyer
- Authentic storytelling in rap
- The value of constructive criticism
- Boxing as a second passion and outlet
- His new track “Step Up” and what it represents
Listen to KJTHAKID's music:
YouTube: youtube.com/@Kjthakid1side
Spotify: open.spotify.com/artist/0iT8YmnlhR8uoPD2hu7Yeu
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Chapters
00:01 Engagement: Even haters give views
04:10 Meeting Bugzy Malone & first bars
05:29 Struggles with school & switching to homeschooling
08:06 Storytelling & real-life topics in lyrics
11:18 Using TikTok, Snapchat & Instagram to promote
13:07 How he met Bugzy Malone at a fight
17:04 Support from dad Robbie MC & family
22:09 Advice for young artists starting out
33:14 New track 'Step Up' as personal therapy
44:44 Balancing boxing & music — upcoming fight
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00:01
whether you hate me or you love me everyone's still tapping in you can still not like me but you're still giving me the views so keep on you know what I mean that's the part and I'll be honest with you on this video you still you might get a couple if you don't like me then cool right but stay stay in your own lane and do whatever you're doing it's like I'm doing my thing you know what I mean right i don't mind if you're leaving the odd comment here but when you're saying some madness online make
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sure you're on it in real life and if you're not saying that but you still don't like me you're still trying to take the mate then stay over there you know what I I'm not bothering you so why bother me i've never really thought right I'm the I'm the best i can do this or whatever but I've always wrote bars i've just never done it so it was like go and get on jump on something right and then I ended up doing it it sounds knackered I'll be honest with you right but it was my first tune and I posted it
00:46
my dad shared it and everything got it on like 5,000 views or something no I was like "Wow." And then after that dropped another dropped another the second one was in my kitchen it was like "Yeah I want to do it." When you start out it's not going to be the best you know what I mean your first 10 tracks or whatever not going to be your most famous if you actually do blow right but then if you're leveling up every time you drop you set yourself some goals and you tick them off that's when you're
01:08
doing well with yourself you know what I mean so I'd say just go for it if that's what you want to do you do it you know what I mean don't let anybody hold you back let people talk if you think it's rubbish let them say that you know what I mean cuz in reality your first one's not going to be amazing is it and it's one of them if I'm staying on the right track God willing I I'll go somewhere with it you know what I mean family general in the booth you can't call me no wann to be really leveling up
01:31
every time that I drop I ain't sharing no space like I'm using hey and welcome back to I Media this is episode 25 today I'm joined by a young and upcoming artist by the name of KJ the Kid he's here to talk about his journey and his vision for the future with the music so yeah thanks for coming on to the show mate how's it going awesome it's good yeah big respect for having me i appreciate it so do you want to start by telling people like what you do and who KJ the Kid is all right so I'm um I'm a young up and coming rapper
02:08
from Bolton obviously I've been around it from a young age and it's like always what I've wanted to do um obviously each time I'm dropping I'm trying to make you know what I mean a level up a step if you get me um but yeah the ultimate goal is just to go far with it if you get what I mean i've got time still but yeah yeah I've been listening to your music and you're definitely progressing pretty well you can hear it from like you go back through the catalog of your tracks on Spotify and each one is a progression
02:39
so you've definitely got something so what sort of developed your interest into the rap scene so obviously my dad um he's an MC he's been doing it for a while um and then coming up around it you know what I mean whether it's cub one and you just my nan's cleaning in the house or it's just like just hearing it on the radio when I had my phone and then you know what I mean scrolling online or whatever but like when I fully started obviously I'm still I'm still young but when I fully started like getting interested into it I was seeing
03:10
like the big artists and everything I'll be scrolling on Tik Tok YouTube whatever just took an interest you know what I mean I thought you know I want that lifestyle I want to be like them not looking up to anyone and like impersonating or wanting to be like them but like you know what I mean i like the lifestyle and I want to do it and you know what I mean yeah and you're doing it aren't you absolutely so like what sort of music for the audience who maybe doesn't know um so it varies really so
03:36
in one but it is really kind of all the same niche but niche even but like storytelling hip-hop um yeah that's more but like Detroit as well if you get me so fast pace and I can go slow storytelling it depends what mood I'm feeling when I'm in the studio yeah I like that kind of stuff myself cuz it it you're kind of like painting a picture aren people listening and stuff which is really good and um yeah big ups on the work that you've done so far for the music videos as well they look looking fresh that's it so how old was you when
04:10
you first realized that you could do this could do it i've never really you know what I mean cuz that's it seems a bit up your own you know what I mean but I've never really thought right I'm the I'm the best i can do this or whatever but like when I when I knew I wanted to do it I was like 13 i met Bugs and Malone in Manchester right and it was like like again I've always been around my dad and he's been doing it so I've always come up around music but I met him and then I was in um I was chilling
04:37
with a couple of my mates at the time Lewis and Pedro and then we was in his room and Pedro was already doing music you know what I'm saying so then I was he was like I've always wrote bars i've just never done it so he was like go and get on jump on something right and then I ended up doing it just some tren beat off YouTube didn't even know it could get copyrighted i don't see him if you're watching right but obviously I' I've done it and then it sounds knackered i'll be honest with you right
05:01
but it was my first tune and I posted it my dad shared it and everything got it on like 5,000 views or something i was like wow and then after that dropped another dropped another the second one was in my kitchen it was like "Yeah I want to do it." So I was like 12 13 I think wow yeah man no way that is really good now what about like school and stuff um for me it's never been it's never really been my thing you know what I mean like when I I think since I've came out of it it's I've calmed down a
05:29
lot you know what I mean because when I was in it um I I get distracted i wouldn't listen to if I didn't want to do it I wouldn't do it simple as you can't push me to do something if you put me in isolation it don't matter i just didn't really like the whole system and how it all worked you know what I mean it's just the sheep you're learning the same thing over and over again as the same people have learned 20 year ago you know what I mean and it's you're sticking you know what I mean we're all
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evolving we're not staying as 1980 and it's like I don't know it's they're teaching the same thing and I don't like it and they punish you for mistakes are you going to get far if you're getting punished you know what I mean exactly yeah yeah no I completely agree with you because I think that's what's wrong with the education system and I think that if they focused on what you were good at do you know what I mean and put all that effort and energy into that then you're just going to progress beyond all levels
06:15
and so you know fair play to you so you're doing some like homeschooling is it um yeah that's what that's what I'm doing at the moment yeah homeschooling how's that going find it find it better than being in actual school but yeah it's still I just don't like I just don't like the system full stop you know what I mean i don't like doing work i don't like doing all that but you know what I mean got to do what you got to do man but it's better than sitting on a class and you just listening to this
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random guy on about what you've got to do today you know what I mean it's more chilled laidback i I completely understand cuz I remember when I was back in school and if it's something I'm not interested in I'm just daydreaming thinking about my own stuff and so I completely get it you I suppose some people would say you're living the dream then well you know definitely yeah yeah you must have other lads like your age who like "Oh I wish I could do that." Yeah well there's that part like cuz some some people they
07:10
don't know my age obviously I don't give it out if you know me and you're from where I'm from and I've grew up with you know my age right but it's like one of them so if you don't know me and you just know my music then I'm not really part of giving it out but um I don't know they like it's they find it better you know what I mean they say they want to I wouldn't say nobody's going like "Oh I wish I was like you i wish I would have got this but they say you're lucky you know what I mean cuz it's more like I
07:35
said it's more laidback you know what I mean yeah and your dad's been pretty pivotal and supporting you and stuff yeah of course he does it with everything robbie MC in the building yeah Robbie MC he's actually been on a podcast twice so go and check that out and you'll probably see why Kay is the way he is he's been inspired from a young age and he's doing it so there's nothing much more you can want from that that's it a proud father son moments definitely so just getting back to like your music stuff what sort of topics do
08:06
you cover and like to write about so my home when I was younger what I'm doing now decisions going down this path or that path struggles you know what I mean whether if I'm I don't know if I'm out on the streets or I'm in home writing at home writing bars it's different you know what I mean all different terms of life or like so that goes back to the storytelling aspect you know what I mean so but then one day I could be on an AGM with everybody and just start you know what I mean going off at everyone and
08:33
it's like it's different like it's different mood you know what I mean yeah every track's different each one tells its own story beats I'd say for my last my last recent ones they've been the same but like I'm not rapping the same stuff you know what I mean and it's like it's different but with this next one I put a trailer out on Tik Tok Instagram whatever all right that's completely different that's what I'm gonna start being like and that um Yeah I think that one will do well yeah and like I was
09:01
saying earlier I was listening to your tracks in the car coming up to get you guys and um you can definitely hear the progression and not just with you and your lyrics and stuff but how you're layering the vocals yeah and your understanding of um being a recording artist because what I've noticed like being into a bit of producing last decade or two is there's people that can perform live and then there's recording artists and it's a whole another level for people to record and understand that the layers that are needed and certain
09:33
bits with like where your effects and your reverb tails off and knowing where to stop and put the pauses and I can definitely hear it mate so it's one of them is it it's like it and I'm glad you can see it you know what I mean cuz like I said the first one I dropped the KJ i just thought my name's I call myself KJ the kid this is the KJ way you know what I'm saying i wrapped a bit i I got a bit deep in it but obviously I was still young i was I was squeak you know what I'm saying i'm not saying I'm a fully
09:59
developed man now but like no yeah it's it's like and you see it and then it was straight rhythms that the bars in that if I chose a better beat I'm not toing my own horn but I think that would have gone a bit further and then the one after was it dollar yeah and then soul manifestation and then born for this and then destination and then soul go on and then the last two I think that I dropped they've been like a change you know what I mean and then this one will be a change it's like it's just in my mind
10:25
like every time I I can't be average with it cuz if I'm rapping the same thing that I've wrapped last time they're not it's boring is it I'm sharing it they'll hear the first 10 seconds be like he's done that last time right so it's like I've got to change it up every time right and I can't be the same as these other rappers in Bolton cuz if they if they like that person's music and then they hear mine just be like "Oh he's he's just it sounds the same." You know what I mean i just go back to that guy one of them yeah yeah
10:48
yeah definitely and I think that's what will give it its uniqueness as well it's like cuz it's your own journey isn't it it's your own story and um I think Yeah no I'm I'm really made up to even have you on here and document your story cuz I see big things in the future i can see the vision that you're on you're determined and you can only progress from this point for 100% definitely get you back here in the future as well you might be like "Yo delete that now." Grown up in it humble beginnings man
11:18
yeah no definitely and it's good to to document your journey early on that's what it is proud to have you here mate definitely so um how do you promote yourself as a as a young artist so obviously it's it's kind of cliche but you've got obviously the bang average social media actually got Snapchat Tik Tok Instagram you know what I mean it's like with Snapchat I've got a lot of people on it right so all different people from all over the UK right it's used for messaging in it but it's like I I know I can connect myself
11:49
on that with someone from Germany right and it's like I share that and know I'm in Germany you know you know what I mean and it's like if I share that to someone in London I'm in London now you know what I mean all I all I need to say please can you share it for me you know what I mean not like it's so so simple to get around and like on TikTok that's easier to get views and everything but it still does well with it like I think one of them's on 800 the one I dropped the other day likes right and it's like
12:13
that's good cuz Tik Tok you're with the algorithm more you know what I mean you're getting noticed more but with it's like on Instagram as well promoting yourself is more I'd say word of mouth and speaking to people saying "Can you share this?" Because my my mate's going to know someone that I don't know and then now he's going to know me and then he can tell his mate you know what I mean it's like one of them tell a friend to tell a friend yeah yeah that's really good and um I know that there's it's not
12:38
free is it so when you when you're sort of like buying rights for tracks and you got to pay for mastering and publishing and everything like that and you're only young so how do you do it man um obviously help from my dad and my dad but um when when when when you've already booked the studio session and the night before you're like "Oh I'll just get a take away it'll be all right i saw some tomorrow." Yeah right and then you're like "Oh right it's tomorrow now and I've got to get this money otherwise." Yeah you know what I mean so
13:07
you find your own ways whether it's I don't know it could be gardening it could be window clean it could be whatever it could be you know what I mean but whatever way of making money right that I've got to do what I've got to do cuz it's already booked it works you know what I mean you make it work that's that's determination that way obviously definitely you keep doing it and don't give up yeah 100% and um Yeah so I wanted to ask you about this Bugsy Malone bugs how you met him yeah so went to the KSI fight with one of my mates at
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the time um KSI versus Tommy Fury mate you should have seen how many people I met raheem Sterling Mo Faroh King Batch um I met everyone right and I met Bugsy i knew one of his tunes my mate Tom yeah big up but um he was showing me his tune in it in 2023 and I was like I've heard of him obviously but I was like right it's hard isn't it i was learning it was on my playlist i kept ironically right and I kept on hearing it i kept hearing it it was stuck in my head and I wrap it right i went to it i went to the fight
14:06
right i've seen him um and I I heard all the It was after Yanni went by in his car right and I heard all the people going "It's Pugsy it's Pugsy." So I ran up to him and I just start I was at the back in it and I started rapping his tune i don't know why right but I just started rapping his tune he pulled his camera and starts recording me and then my mate jumps in got a couple words messed up i was like "God's sake." Right but no it was it was mad you know what I mean cuz I actually met him he put me on
14:31
his TikTok and everything i was like you know what I mean that's some promotion i know it was crazy it's really good so like where do you see yourself going what's your vision for the future um see what it is and again no egotistical way and I'm not toing my own harm but no one can tell me it's not factual right in Bolton at the moment I am the youngest that's doing it and I've got the most views right i've got the most likes every whether you hate me or you love me everyone's still tapping in you know
14:58
what I'm saying so you can still not like me but you're still giving me the views so keep them you know what I mean that's the part and I'll be honest with you on this video you still you might get a couple people that are like they don't like me you know what I mean but I like that because you're sitting here right what we're probably what 15 minutes in you've got to this point so you're still watching me you know what I'm saying and you put an extra view in so it's like if it stays that way and I
15:21
keep going down this path then it's good because I'm still getting myself about every time that I drop right more people are knowing my face more people knowing what I do so it's like keep doing that and I've still got time don't forget so if it's if it's if I'm staying on the right track God willing I I'll go somewhere with it you know what I mean yeah you will mate definitely cuz you you've got that fire inside you i can hear it and I can see it in your eyes that you're dead serious about it which
15:45
is a massive plus obviously and you're going to get haters along the way haters are going to hate and like you said all publicities and at the end of the day you're not being known for the wrong reasons are you you're not out doing bad things you're just trying to make a better life for yourself and your family and fair play to you man honestly for doing that just keep keep doing it that's all I can say man so who inspired you then along the way so obviously like I said I met Bugsy and everything so
16:12
that kind of gave me a boost but like on not on the topic of like big artists right i'll come down in a sec obviously he's still doing his thing right but Ashes North Face right he's he's like he's like an older brother that I've never had right and I'm genuinely I'll show him this but he's like he he leads me in the right way you know what I mean he he speaks real rap and I look up to him in a big way because he does that and he like keeps me on the right track of like like going gym and everything
16:37
right and he still does his music so in terms of the music I'm still looking up to him you know what I mean but it's it's one of them he he really does he's good for me you know what I mean he speaks to me um on a personal level and tells me that could be better obviously he he believes in God heavy right church all the time doesn't miss a day um so he's like "Take them naughty words take them." You know what I mean and I laugh sometimes because it's like but it's true you know what I mean but my craft
17:04
is my craft you know what I mean but like inspiration on on that side of things like my dad again I'll say it i've I've grew up around him you know what I mean there's not been one time where he hasn't shared my music you know what I mean and he's since I remembered it um I got on stage um um my dad's mates George funeral rest in peace um and we didn't even do anything you know what I mean we was just on the mic right and he was like he throwing that parade so I was like "Right okay." And I dropped my first music video that went
17:35
popping everywhere and he got he got it was him probably 2,000 of them views are probably from him right and I owe that to him right and ever since then every time he's always shared it right so it's it's it's him like he's given me the boost you know what I mean i look up to him genuinely um because if it weren't for him I wouldn't have done this you know what I mean i would have just been a slap bang average person that's probably doing what every kid is doing right now you know what I mean but then
17:59
without the music side of things obviously my girlfriend you know what I mean she she keeps me going a lot with it um and she she'll criticize me she won't lie to me you know what I mean if if she don't like it then she'll say it's not as good you know what I mean and that's good for me because if I'm there like saying "Yo this is hard." But then she goes "No no no." You got to be realistic can't you definitely and that constructive criticism really does help along the way it is and big ups to Robbie there in the back
18:27
for supporting his lab there cuz you know a lot of parents they'll be like "Oh you're wasting your life go and get a proper job stay in school do this do that." But he believes in you and you believe in yourself so that's it that's And and your Mrs believes in you so that's like the holy trinity everything man yeah yeah definitely so like what gigs have you performed or I won't even call that a gig to be honest i wouldn't right but I want to um there was one in old actually that I was supposed to be
18:56
doing um when was it in February but I'm not I don't know the thing with gigs it's like it's like I've never really I get nervous sometimes in it but then when I'm on stage and it like right come on let's do it you know what I mean but it's like each step right I'm I'm I'm never going to step back that's what I think to myself you know what I mean i've always got like I've never done a podcast before it's my first podcast you know what I mean i've got it written in my notebook at home 20 25 things I want
19:24
to do you know what I mean podcast was one of them ticked off and it's like each time I'm ticking something off so it's like I'm getting myself known right and it's it's good for me so with the gigs when people see it like now old you you say you've got people from olden they they see it and then it's like getting known all over the place that helps you get recognition it helps you bring people in gigs whatever but it's like I'm not really too focused on it but the later in the later late this year I I'll probably do yeah in the
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later stages cuz you're still building yourself as an artist start you're still building your catalog of tracks and it does take time and you'll get to the point where you've got that many tracks that you're like "Yeah I can easily smash out an hour couple of hours gig here or start getting paid for it man." So so which studios and producers have you been using any set ones or you've got a couple you work with so my set one at the moment um I shouted him out on the last one he keeps getting he keeps
20:21
getting a lot of um shout outs right Bradley bradley Boyer again I'll say it again top top guy honestly you can have a laugh with him he's like your best mate in the studio but he also you will you will not I promise you in Manchester you will not get a better studio than him or the work he does he's the best engineer in Manchester right when I first started it was Shamshi he's still doing his thing you know what I'm saying and bit um big respect to him cuz he produced my first two I think other than
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the KJ wear my first two when I actually went to a studio it was him um but yeah Bradley he's the guy I'm going to you know for sure is that who's done the last couple of tracks he's done Make It Out Street T where I'm from you know what I mean it's like they're the best sounding they're the best and he even helps me don't get me no one writes my lyrics it's me strictly right but he'll go "That might sound a bit better." You know what I'm saying like guide me you know what I'm saying cuz me I don't say
21:12
like I said with the school side of things I don't I won't listen to you if you don't if I don't want to do it but there's certain people that I'm like "Right I'll listen to you." You know what I mean he's wor he's worked with everyone morrison you might know him he's big he's worked with Jordan Mac everything um Quangface we want race boot more more my generation like up and coming now oh they're doing it now um but he's big you know what I mean he's working with good people or Nicki Minaj he worked with her for example right and
21:40
it's like I get along with him well you know what I mean but again like I was saying he still gets the job done so Bradley Bradley boy um Yint as well yint with the beats get him on Insta I think yeah Yint beats he sort you out top guy so have you got any advice for people like yourself getting into the same kind of thing maybe things things you've learned along the way and what could help other young aspiring artists so if you want to do music because I've had again I'm not tooting my own horn but a
22:09
couple people have said to me "What's this about do you like it?" Like you know what I mean and asking me for advice but it's like I'll I'll tell you if it sounds bad I'll tell you it sounds bad you know what I mean i'm not going to lie but it's one of them I'll tell I'll say work on the lyrics work on that and it might sound better on this beat and again I'm no one big you know what I'm saying i'm still working but it helps like that but what I'd say is if you're starting out like look at me i
22:31
started in my mate's bedroom for the first one just having a little mess about that's on 5K views now then I went to my kitchen in my dad's kitchen with a few of my mates you know what I mean and then it went to Dollar Studio uh yeah big up DA as well um then it went to Shamshi then I did it you know what I mean so basically when you start out it's not going to be the best you know what I mean your first 10 tracks or whatever not going to be your most famous if you actually do blow right but then if you're leveling up every time
22:57
that you're dropping like that was one of my bars right then you're not going wrong and like if you're at my age or younger and you're doing it like that then props to you you know what I mean because you're still you're doing something productive you know what I mean and it's like like I said if you're leveling up every time you drop you set yourself some goals and you take them off that's when you're doing well with yourself you know what I mean so I'd say just go for it if that's what you want
23:18
to do you do it you know what I mean don't let anybody hold you back let people talk if they think it's rubbish let them say that you know what I mean cuz in reality your first one's not going to be amazing is it and it's one of them you just got to keep on going if you want to do it strive for it yeah just carry on and don't give up kind of thing yeah know that's really inspiring man appreciate the the words there for other people who are Yeah man in the struggle and just trying to make a better life for themselves really and I
23:43
think the main thing is that you believe in yourself i know like you saying you don't want to toot your own arm but honestly you should cuz you're doing good things and there's a good message in your lyrics as well it's not all about negativity is it no yeah you know what I mean and and you've got like a a broad range of tracks and I can only imagine like as time goes on that's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger so I'm definitely going to keep an eye on your Spotify it's discoraphy in it like when you're building on
24:10
yourself yeah that's what I just want i just want to fill it all like when I go on Google I just want to be able to scroll endlessly you know what I'm saying i just want to I just want to that's that's the main goal in it just to be full obviously to start making profit more off it and then you obviously the the obvious goal you know what I mean but I want to build on it for now you know what I mean so like back to when I was saying um about ticking goals off and everything and saying where I want to be that's where I
24:36
want to be i want to be up there you know what I'm saying not no little artist or mediocre i want to be up there like I'm sure you will just carry on doing it and just keep writing and I can imagine that I reckon your brain never switches off does it are you always thinking of stuff and listening to beats um I'll be honest with you if you think I'm all about music I only do music when it comes to the time that I have to drop so I'm I'm writing I'd say very often right um but it's one of them like I I was
25:10
going I was dropping every month when I first started right but then it went to first two uh every two months and now I think I'm going to be a bit late either three or four months right but what it is right it's going to be top music video and I mean it top music video obviously big up TMTV as well for doing my my other ones but I'm not slating anybody everybody does their own work you know what I mean but it's going to be a top music video it sounds good you know what I mean the track so I can't
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wait to get that out there what was the question again i've lost it no don't worry about that man don't worry about sick you don't remember who would you really really like to do a track with no one honestly no i don't I don't There's no one I would I care to do a track with not to collaborate no I'm not bothered so you wouldn't like to feature or No I'm not I'm not a feature or no one else is if if we're on a track together it's KJ the Kid X what if someone calls for you so someone pretty big in the scene
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and like "Yo we want this kid on our track." Well if it's depends if it is isn't it i can't again I'm I'm no one H or something H he's just don't roll him in he I can I can get another from don't roll to do the same thing but it's like nah that's ruthless that is it I'd say yeah probably you know what I mean for the recognition I'm not I'm not coaching or anything but yeah for the for the promotion and stuff like that pick up a few new followers and but you know what to me that just shows that you're doing
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your own thing you're not trying to be like anyone You're not trying to like pay your way into it cuz I know like a lot of artists they'll pay to do these features for people not for me yeah yeah so no that's good that's hopefully I'll be paying you one day in it to to jump on your stuff no if if said to me no 100 quid for a few I need a 500 whatever i'd get it you know what I mean cuz it's one of them again getting your discordion from the track and everything exactly if if you're only known as if you're known as
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the worst on the chin then right your career is rip off pretty much right but if you're known and people find you good on it then taking off you know what I mean that's that's what you got to think when you're on a feature it's more competitive for me you know what I'm saying even when I was writing bars with my boys and I've got a couple tracks on release for my mates we're just messing about but it was like I've got to write the hardest bars now right and it was like no no I need to go again because
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that don't sound harder you know what I'm saying it's it's always competitive so if I was on a feature with anyone it be like I've got to rap the hardest you know what I'm saying because it's one of them it's like friendly competition in a way any of your like close mates and stuff are they on the same sort of vibes or um my mate not not many of my mates rap you know but like they mess like Biso um he me he started messing about with it now um cuz that's usually how it starts like one lad's into it and then like for
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me back in the day like mixing bit of DJing and that it was just like one of our mates who's into it then I got into it then another one of us got into it and few years down the line we're all into it you might be setting a trend here yeah it's good cuz in my in my turn obviously I'm I'm not with all the MC so I'm not with all the MC games and what what everyone's doing in my dad's generation or whatever i'm not I don't know everybody i know a few people obviously but I don't know everybody that's doing
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it right but in my town there's not many people doing it right in my generation obviously you've got a couple but in Hwell you know what it is it's boring and I and I'll start slating right i'm not bothered right drill rappers saying you know what I mean you've not done it they're saying that I don't know if they're saying I stabbed him or I stabbed that you know what I mean and it's like no you haven't you know what I mean so it's just lie you're lying to people right and I'm never I'm never going to go on camera saying "Oh I waved
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my gun at him i've waved it at him." You know what I mean cuz I haven't right so what's the point in lying to people it's one of them right and I'm I I get along with people and I'll always it obviously I'll respond to people that are supporting me because if I don't then I'm more of some ignorant cocky muppet that's just doing music and wants me to share it what am I getting out of it even if he doesn't say thank you you know what I'm saying it's again I'm the youngest and I'm getting the most views
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so if I'm calculating in my head right I'm going down the right path because it's it's factual you know what I mean and if I keep going like that every year I can only see myself Yeah you know what I mean 100% and you're just being real aren't you with your lyrics you're not like you say you're not like making stuff up to appeal to like a certain demograph you're just being yourself speaking from the heart that's how you feel in it in life it's boring when they're doing like obviously don't get
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me wrong I listen to drill music right i've got I've got mates that are doing whatever I've I've done you know what I mean not to but when you're lying to people I just don't get it and then people are buzzing off it going "Yeah yeah yeah." It's like mate you ain't done it you know what like even if even if the ones who are not lying I don't think it's smart these days no it's not cuz they're just incriminating i know you're incriminating yourself exactly yeah yeah there was that gang from Manchester weren't there in the
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Manchester Evening News I think a week or two ago an OCG there and uh pretty well known and on YouTube and the guy's like documented bare stuff in his track yeah now he's all been all the crew's been up and GMP have shared the rap video saying this video is like partly what's convicted him it's not smart at all if you if you really if you're really trying to show you're about it you know what I mean and you've got problems with people then you you know what I mean you'll do it another way other than music you're not going to say
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I've done this or do that you know what I mean again you're incriminating yourself if you've got an on an ongoing case right and they they know they've got an understanding you do music right go on your music video i shot him that day i stabbed him on that park yeah i've been moving weight and allacter man i can't get my head around it but I know it's just it's just a thing isn't it people it's like um part of the culture in it of drill music don't don't get me wrong right i'm not rapping about dandelions and liies in a
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field right but cuz sometimes right I'll tell you what I do right i'm not I'm not going to again I won't incriminate myself i'm not that stupid right just to make myself Well you're not a criminal anyway so yeah no right but um it's just like what's I don't see the point in lying if I've got to get my message across to you or it's a problem outside of music then you deal with it that way right but it's it's dafted to see people coming online and talking about it it's online facades you know what I mean
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you're hiding behind all this and everything it's like with people with me as well you're hiding behind the screen if you see me wherever right and you're not on on the same thing as you were online and it's like just stop giving it you know what I mean and then they'll go and talk to the mates about it and then it becomes a tune it's just one of them stop lying people seem to make big money off like these beefs and stuff don't they and I know like some people say "Oh maybe it's maybe they set it up between
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them to like get the traction and get the views and the entertainment and stuff." I'm sure there's real beefs but I reckon some of it is like I'd say it's just like you know what like H said when he did his central C this central C this he said you made millions of um image and what was it um imagery and rap capping right i made millions off who I am what I do you know what I mean and real rap right so it's like I'd rather do that and again I'm not rapping about sunshine and rainbows right cuz in my
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tracks sometimes right there's a lot of stuff for example you don't know but even my dad you know what I mean and if I need to get the point across not to not to scare anybody not to think oh you know what I mean i don't need to give that because if if they need to know then they need to know you know what I mean it's like you it's any normal person if you're getting pushed to a point you're going to go you know what I mean and it's like like with this one I'll be honest with you it's a bit like
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I'm going at you know what I mean because it was needed but that song's the best one that I've ever dropped and even um Tia said it my girlfriend she even said it's it's the best one best saying it my producer Bradley said it my mates have said it you know what I mean which one's that again um it's called Step Up step up yeah it's coming out soon man oh a new release yeah yeah yeah that's it next month music video as well can you give an insight into what that's about um roughly without spoiling right
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detroit Beat top mix top music video um I ain't got the music video yet we're shooting it next month it should be with you like early Julyish that's why early Juneish yeah that's what I think but trust me this one is it's going to be my best i'm not going to say it's going to go off cuz I don't know yet right but it's definitely going to be my best and it's it's you know what I mean it's different from what I've done recently yeah it's more angry I'd say but is it yeah man well I think that sometimes
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that's where you're like getting stuff off your chest aren't you and it's going to sound mad this some of the viewers but it's also like a a form of therapy in it you're not holding it inside man you're letting it out in a form of art that's exactly what it is i mean give it letting it out cuz like when you got problems right it's like with this one you know what I'm saying i thought now I'm letting loose with it all right if you want a problem let's have it your head goes you know what I mean and you just it's like So with me I
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I don't do therapy or anything so it be the pad is my therapy you know what I'm saying so I start writing and I go in the studio yeah yeah so it's cool and then I listen to it but like cool it's on now in it you know what I mean i've wrote about it i've gave it back i'm not I don't I don't really state a lot of names right but it's like I dropped Make It Out right and I'm not going to drop names or anything right but like from Manchester and a couple from course to mine get rich die trying right two people have
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used that bar and it's like I'm I've never robbed anyone's bars you know what I mean it's like become self-made that's that's what I'm doing right and when I seen two people using my exact same words placing it exactly after you yeah after I screen I was being a bit petty with it right he he dropped it and then I screen recorded it and then I was like "Right is this what people are doing now?" Yeah you know what I mean stirring it up a bit and then it's like I I just say to them it gets it gets on the
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nerves a lot and it does seem egotistical be honest but like you're not doing the same views as me shush sit there you know what I mean it's like it's a bit nasty sometimes but it gets like that because I don't know you feel like um entitled to have to go back at them you know what I mean and I won't give them I'm not going to give them the the recognition for what they're doing you know what I'm saying because it's like it wouldn't make sense to you get me but it I I'll rap about I'm not going
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to name drop in my and my bars are on here you know what I'm saying but I I'll rap about it so that they know about it you get me it's one of them yeah sometimes I think it can it can be like that Stysand effect as well so it's like they're not really known and they're stealing your stuff but then you make a diss about them and if you did mention them you're just driving traffic to them yeah i don't really do I don't know i don't see it with diss tracks mate cuz you just you're putting you're putting
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more people onto their plate you get me so why am I going to do that but I'll say I'll rap what I'm feeling and why this person's feel like it started off my first and whatever you know what I'm saying that was the first line but then as it progresses it gets better the word play everything with it and it's like you can't come at me now you know what I'm saying it's like one of them i'm not going to I'm not going to keep it all in the music cuz again we're all humans you know what I mean and I don't like when
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people they're on the phones all the time giving talks it just doesn't make sense half of the time it's cuz they're mad that I'm doing what I'm doing you know what I'm saying people can't leave whatever they've got in the past right they just think I'm the same person i haven't moved on cuz I'll be honest about a year ago I was just dossing a tone you know what I mean and then like recent two months or whatever um obviously I've nearly been my girlfriend for nearly a year now but it's like I've
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just been chilling with her more chilling with family more writing bars getting money to provide for the music to go out just do normal stuff been going to the gym with my cousin staying on the right track you know what I mean and it's like but there's still that side to people just cuz I'm on the right track don't mean it don't age ain't a thing when it comes to me you know what I mean don't think you can try and do all that or you can get away with you know what I mean it don't work like that
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cuz if I see someone that's talked mad to me then it's what it's on you know what I Have you had any trolls like in your in your comments or videos or just just idiots maybe know you and just want to be dicks you've got it's like and I I don't even I don't sometimes I I reply in it all right but it's rare right it was like this kid said watch when I see I seen him right I started laughing at him like stop giving stop giving it right on on on Tik Tok Snapchat right and it's more my generation I understand
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it right but when you when you know in real life you're not about that you know what I'm saying and I'm not saying I'm a full gang member and I run the woods and the crips right you know what I'm saying I'm not but I'm I can hold my own Right and I'm not going to you won't find nothing of me running off getting pressured nothing like that it's not who I am right so when people talk online it's like and they're not on the same thing in real life it's like what are you doing you know what I mean it's just
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giving big up behind the screen that's all it is you know what I'm saying and like I said before it's gaining me more traction if you want to listen to my stuff and then comment something daft sweet he's giving me an extra view and you know what I mean and then when you share it to your boys trying to say it to make that's another view i don't care about them you know what I mean cuz there's more people that like me and respect what I do than there is that hate me and I like it again because it's
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getting me views so keep doing it you get me that's always the way it is it's like like with these podcasts and stuff i remember um Sean Atwood guy who's got a big podcast in the UK and uh back in the early days he was doing them with his best friend Wildman the the big guy that he was in America with he's kind of right-hand man and uh when Sean started dropping the podcasts he'd get a few hate comments here and there and Wild Man was like "I want to track them down i want to find them like to every little
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like negative comment man." But you realize over time that they don't matter cuz you might have one negative comment or one troll of just someone who knows you and wants to be a dick but you'll get 10 20 100 positive ones exactly you know what I mean there's always going to there's always going to be more people that are digging your stuff and giving you positive vibes than your negative ones so I think it's good to just ignore them they're irrelevant aren't they i'd say nine times out of 10 and it's people
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I know not my mates are people I've ever been they know me and they've heard of me you know what I'm saying so it's like when I see these it gives me a buzz you know what I mean when they're not on what they're on online and it's like stop i just I just want it to all stop right if you don't like me then cool right stay stay in your own lane and do whatever you're doing it's like I'm doing my thing you know what I mean i want I want a peaceful life and I bet everyone else does you know what I mean
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but there's always each each day you're going to face another problem that's how it is right you just got to crack on with it and if you don't like me I don't I'm not bothered right but you do your thing right i don't mind if you're leaving the odd comment here but when you're saying some madness online make sure you're on it in real life and if you're not saying that but you still don't like me you're still trying to take the mate then stay over there i don't want I don't want nothing to do with you i'm doing my thing you do your
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thing you get me it's just mutual respect right i don't care even if you don't like me or you don't like what I'm about or do just stay in your lane you know what I mean i'm not bothering you so why bother me it's just one of them is it yeah but like success is the best form of revenge obviously because like all these haters and stuff you'll find that even some of them as the years go on and you progress and start getting more known and bigger they're going to be like "Oh it was wrong about you bro."
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And they want to be your best mates then seeing it all happen well it's like I don't know you see with me I don't believe like with my mates it's different from let's say my girlfriend and second chances or whatever you want to call it all right if if you've got a mate right and he's done something wrong to you or he's properly snake you and he's gone chilling with someone that you don't like or whatever then it's different you know what I mean so then how you could be in a relationship for example so I'm talking about second
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chances with mates i don't do any of that you know what I mean if you're trying to take the Mick once right then I'll cut you off right i've got I've got a small C circle right and obviously I'm associates with people but I'm not mate you not a lot many people can call me the mate you know what I mean it's like breeo it's it's he's one of he's my main guy you know what I'm saying rafy as well it's like I keep it small there's obviously more than that but I can't be right so it's like when you keep your
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circle small and you've known these people you open up to them you both both know each other's parents i'm not saying like ringing calling each other every night but you know what I mean you both met each other's parents you've got go to the houses you know what I'm saying and you've got each other's backs like that it's like I don't need 50 people to come and act with me if you've got two people that are down for you and are actually you know what I mean it's one of them yeah yeah yeah definitely and
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that'll go a long way won't it like when you progress and you start attending like events and they're staying with me you know what I mean no one fake can come say "Yeah you was my boy back in." No not it's not that you know what I'm saying go that way but then when I know I No one you can't you can't pull the wall over my eyes if you fake and all your fakes and all right but it's like again Brio Rafi Habib all my main mates right it's like this they've stayed with me from the start since I started doing
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this right some people don't get me wrong they've came and gone but they've stayed you know what I'm saying so when God willing again when I if if I do make it right which hopefully I will then they're coming with me you know what I mean everything I'm doing at studio I bring them to that right and my girlfriend she I think you miss one on you yeah it's like you don't miss many and it's the people that I want with me the real people that I want around me I bring them with me everywhere that I'm
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about to go you know what I'm saying it's it's one of them if you're real and I know you've been with me from the start you're coming with me but if not you're trying to act a facade where be my mate in a bit again yeah definitely yeah your dad as well man i can see him staying with you till the right to the top there so outside of the music then what other activities do you like to do to pass time so obviously yesterday I was I was having a kick at one bounce on Rushton Park so um I don't usually do that i
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stopped playing football like two years ago i used I started playing football when I was about what six yeah yeah when I was about six when I started playing football and I stopped when I was like 12 right um and I I don't know I just fell out of love for it I was going there a bad road at the time you know what I mean becoming a teenager going meet with these people they're going there in the wrong path they're older people you know what I mean so you're getting guided down that wrong path obviously now I've
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got my head on my shoulders so I know where to go know what to do if it's reasonable I'll do it if it's not and I know it's daft I'm not right so it's like but I made a lot of mistakes coming into my teenage years I think and I'm obviously I'm still young but coming into it fully I was making mistakes so it was like um it it weren't too good if to put it that way but I like obviously like I said I was doing football and I just stopped but then boxing I started doing that a bit when I was younger as well
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like well a few years ago but I've always like I've always loved fighting you know what I mean it's like it's one thing about me I I don't know I just I just get a buzz fighting it's like I don't know and then like at the gym whenever I'm or just on the bag or whatever it's like yeah you know what I mean I've got a fight in July as well I'm I'm be crying right away yeah I'm fighting in July yeah so you mean like fighting as in ring not just like I don't condone like yeah but yeah she'll be fighting in July
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but it's like I I love it I like getting hit as well it's like really yeah adrenaline it's run free you know what I mean is It's I'm not scared to lose either that's a good thing about it because if if I'm walking into that like all paranoid oh no no he's going to do me cuz he looks on STS and yokeked up and that it doesn't matter you know what I mean it's not all about how big you are how tall you are it's cuz his jab reaches more than mine it don't matter you know what I'm saying when I'm when
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I'm in that ring I've got some it's like um a stigma that stays with me in my mind i've got to win this right but if even if it's not it's not a loss if it's a lesson you know what I mean so it's my first fight it's my first proper fight obviously discarding all the other little ones right but stepping into a ring everyone credits it you know what I mean so it's like I'm I'm having it with him on the car park i'm I'm in a ring with him you know what I mean i'm touching his gloves and then we're
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moving about and we're having it in a proper ring you know what I mean show him respect afterwards as well shake hands that's it that's it but it's one of them for my for me and who I am i'm not losing it you know what I mean i can't imagine I'm bringing my girlfriend i'm bringing my dad right and it's cliche right to not you don't want to lose in front of these people but no you can't you know what I mean you've got to it's funny you should say that as well cuz like the first guest the very first
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podcast my mate Gaz producer um he did a little bit of boxing when he was younger and um he said that like he he won his fights and stuff but he only had a couple but the he said every time he got into the ring he'd literally feel like so nervous and feeling sick and all that but then this feeling when that bell goes this feeling had come over him my mom and dad's there my little sister they're all watching me and it just it just Yeah yeah so So even a best of fighters get nervous and bit thingy but
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then it's once that bell goes like Mike Tyson what do you say he said when I was walking out he said I was nervous this man would beat me was when I was getting closer and closer in the ring i'm going to beat him you know what I mean all the nerves just dropped the adrenaline kicked in he was like "He's sick." I've got um a frame of Mike Tyson i I look up to him when it comes to boxing you know what I mean i started watching um what's it called now um Big George what's it called yeah George Foreman that's it
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right i started watching that on Netflix right um and it's like it's similar to Mike Tyson story where he started he weren't he weren't the best when he started when he custom started training him and everything he got better and I'm not one of them me I won't binge free Rocky movies before I'm gonna you know what I mean before I have the fire but it's like it's it's inspirational genuinely when you look at it from that point of view it's good man yeah definitely i think that translates over to your your drive as well for the music
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as well it's like I won't be beaten i'm doing this i'm just going to keep keep smashing it that's it yeah so you got a lot of fights planned or just um I want to do this one obvious like like I said I like fighting you know what I mean whether it's in the ring right but like I just I just I enjoy it so hopefully after this first one um I can go on to if I if I enjoy it and I'll go and do another one if I don't it's like Yeah yeah yeah but it's one of them in it like the training and like just you just love it i I love it
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right because it's like you're training you're into this routine you're not sat at home eating [ __ ] all day you know what I'm saying and it's like I I enjoy it when I know that I'm doing something productive with my life and I can see that I'm doing something productive with my life so for example if I've gone to the gym for a month right and I wanted to lose some let's say some weight or whatever right i'm I weighed myself say I was 70 and I dropped to 65 it's like wow I've actually done something you
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know what I'm saying so when I say that I mean like seeing sorry seeing like actually what I've done with it you know what I'm saying so like if I go in if I go on the bags for the first time for that I'm training um and I'm a bit rusty my jab ain't as sharp or whatever my hook ain't as hard and then by the end of the camp or whatever you want to call it my up sharp as whatever my jab sharp as whatever my movement sick then it's good in it so it's like me doing something good with my life you know
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what I'm saying not just dossing about and doing whatever that's what yeah definitely yeah know big ups to you man but I'd say like as someone a bit older just be careful with boxing as you get older cuz you hear from a lot of fighters and stuff they said that they wish you never got into it or some can develop like you know brain damage and all them knocks to the head over so many years and I think you're a really smart intelligent lad and you've definitely got something with the music so I'd like
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to see you carry on that path maybe not have too many fans yeah I know you'll win of course you will know I know but I suppose like we're fighting and boxing and contradict myself the best fighters like sometimes end up getting beat you know and stuff like that seeing it Chris Eubank and he get he put he um what did he do put that one in a wheelchair for life and it's like wow yeah I mean that's what I mean anything could happen and stuff and and I'm sure your dad doesn't want to see you know nothing
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will happen don't worry it depends on if he's doing as he's told i I'll win i'll win i'll win yeah don't worry no you will man you Well you're winning at the music yeah so you're already winning you've got a supportive family and you know what more can you ask for like I say some people who've got visions and passions are not getting support by the family like you getting man so you half the battle is that is one and now the other half is you just staying consistent and keep pumping the tunes out keep writing man i would do
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definitely so like where can people usually find like your stuff everything name it i'm on it all right so Instagram official.kj thekid tik Tok official kj the kid spotify KJ the kid diesa KJ the kid surn KJ the kid everything you know what I mean all KJ the kid so that's one word kj T H some people pronounce it KJ that kid right if I call myself KJ T H E K I D right someone's already got that name for one I think right and I don't know it don't not doing what you're doing i had to sw it up a bit right so
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it's my name now i ain't going to change my name to something else right cuz I'm already deep into it all right so KJ the kid it's not KJ that kid right you know what I mean so KJ T H K I D go find me yeah definitely and I'm glad you just brought that up as well cuz I was thinking of that as a question earlier thinking I wonder will he change his name you know when he's older or he's just going to stay real to KJ the kid cuz even when you're not a kid it's still you in It's still the kid i started it when I was a kid you know
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what I mean and I started rapping because of what happened when I was a kid see look at my first one that was storytelling right all the storytelling came from when I was a kid like you know what I mean so it was like KJ my initial my Well yeah klj but KJ right and I added that so my initials and then the kid i was a kid at the time still am right but then I was rapping about when I was a kid so I just thought interpreting it back into my my name it's like it sounds right you know what I mean so I think I don't think
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I'll ever regret it because it's like where I started and again humble beginnings man because if I if I never dropped that first track and was writing about how I was when I was younger I wouldn't be like I say when I'm in 10 years and if I'm doing another one of these I can say I'm not I wouldn't be here right now if I didn't call myself that you know what I mean your journey started with that name didn't it like you said from being a kid so it's it's what people are going to know you by and I think sometimes it it does artists
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damage you know like changing the name halfway into the journey or I mean some some artists maybe want to do it cuz they take a different path or a different genre of music so they're like "Oh how can I uh separate that from my old me and then put it into this new one?" But I can see you staying true to your own That's it my belief keeping it going man definitely the one thing I have noticed is like without disclosing your age how different you are from other lads around your age you know and what's important to them and um you know
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I'm sure most most lads will be playing COD or FIFA or you know and that's their life they go to school they play the games and they're just not really thinking about the future a lot of them aren't even bothered about their education or what they're going to do when they grow up they're just living in the moment so I can definitely see that you know and why why do you think that is um so obviously I'm not going to go fully into my childhood or anything but when I was young younger it weren't the
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best you know what I mean from both sides and it was like I've had to come like I said I'm not going to get too into it but I'm coming up around a lot of a lot of bad rubbish going on in my life right so then I'd resort to certain things and then when I got to about seven I started writing bars you know what I mean so like again I'm not tooting my own horn but I think that I'm advanced my age and doing stuff that someone maybe older would be doing is because of what I've witnessed or been doing as a kid or what
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I've been around you know what I mean so if I didn't have that all the stress all the trauma whatever then I wouldn't be who I am today you know what I'm saying so I'm I'm happy now that I've had that you know what I'm saying so it's like with people my age I'm not slating them you know what I mean if you want to go to school you do that it's like again it's one of them stay in your own lane i'm not bothering you you don't bother me it's like and I respect everyone that's doing that right because the hard
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it's hard work you know what I mean getting up at 8:00 in the morning i'd rather sleep till 2 if I'm being honest with you right but it's like um I don't know it's just that's never been for me i'm not average you know what I mean i'm doing stuff that's obscure to what the normal kid my age would be doing let's say so it's like with the music side of things again like from my childhood um I've had to come up around stuff going on so I' I'd hear it and then it'd be something that I'd take along with me
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you know what I mean and then I must I must have had about 30 counselors right through through primary secondary whatever so like when they're speaking to you I'll be honest I never really used to pick up off it so it' be like I' I'd learn and get smarter of what they're actually here for you know what I'm saying and not actually listen it's like I use the same analogy as I'd used three years ago when I was at Cams was it yeah um it was like I can have as many therapists or counselors as I want
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right um if I genuinely get along with you right I'll take in what you're saying right it's like you've got a fridge for example right and then you've got a plate here okay the fridge is every food that you could imagine right it's providing all of your favorite foods right but your diet can only take so much right so you'll only take a couple things from that fridge right and that's exactly what it's like with um a counselor or a therapist i'm not going to listen to every single word you're saying but if I like what you're saying
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and I think it could genuinely help me then I'll take it into action you know what I mean and I'll actually listen to you but other than that it's like um you know what I mean it's like you've got to be advanced if you're not average right then you're different from the kids your age right if you're not in school then again you're different from the kids your age it doesn't take me for example or what exactly I'm doing to be different from the kid my age but I'd say having goals for yourself you know
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what I mean knowing where you're going cuz I I've said it to my dad you know what I mean i'm keeping it real with everybody that's watching if I'm not going somewhere and I'm sitting on a couple thousand views by let's say 19 20 I'm not going to wait till I'm in my 40s or and big respect to everybody that's doing that you know what I mean this is just me i'm not going to wait till I would ever to like oh I'm not going anywhere and pack it in because then what i've wasted all my life you know what I'm saying i'll just go and get a
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trade i don't want to do my GCSEs or whatever you know what I mean it's not for me the school system is not for me i don't need no GCSEs to be able to go and walk on a site and go you hiring mate it's just word of mouth you know what I mean the more people you know the higher chance you've got a job and it's like obviously I'm not getting all slapbang average job i want something that's providing for me for whatever I've got then but it's like you don't need no GCSE so that you don't need English math
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and whatever you know what I mean i don't I don't like it like I said I don't like the system so that's different about me i don't go along with the system too i'm doing music that may be different from the average kid um yeah there's a lot of stuff right but it's like mainly having goals knowing what I want to do knowing having a set mind of where I'm going in life right um and yeah and I I know and I can tell from speaking to you that you're realistic as well like you just saying if you get to a certain age maybe your
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20s and you think "Yeah it's good but not really getting them the um the outcome that I fought for stuff like that." You've got the drive and the vision you'll just go and master another trade or another craft easily but you know what i don't think you'll have to because you're dedicated from a young age and you're putting your all into it and and it's not even that because some people do that and they're trash not to slate anyone but there's people out there and artists producers rappers whatever and they're not really going
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anywhere but with your stuff from a young such a young age like I say that tone and just the flows and just everything about how it sounds it's as good as the stuff that you're hearing out there do you know what I mean and you're only just going to keep getting better and better so I'm really looking forward to seeing the progression and the journey and getting you back on here someday i'll be on to catch up about it so is there anyone you'd like to give a shout out to and um what sense there's a lot of people that
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I could say thank you to yeah i mean I know you mentioned some like your supportive friends and people who've helped you along the way but I suppose like with podcasts it's um sometimes after the fact you think "Oh I forgot to mention this or I forgot to say that." I'll say the b the basics again so producers wise probably Bradley Beats Yinty obviously my family my girlfriend my n my dad my mom's side as well it's like all come together to support me you know what I mean Ash here again he's got
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me on the right track it's like everybody comes together in my life like the way you have yours set out you've got people helping you that sometimes you don't even they don't even know that they're helping you and you're like wow man you know what I mean and it It it helps to know that because it's like then you surround yourself with these people that you know are helping you so it's like with the shirt it's just again big ups to all my course mates family tier um and big ups to you as well for
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the podcast thanks yeah definitely your dad as well without him you wouldn't be here and and he's he's had the faith with me early on as well to jump on this show so big respect to everyone who's gave me a chance as well cuz it's like trying to get a job without any experience you know what I mean it's like got this podcast going but no one wants to come on cuz you haven't done any yet and uh yeah so it's it's a massive thing for the people that support you and believe in you along the way definitely so when
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you find a beat online that you want to use for one of your tracks how do you go about actually being able to use that without strikes yeah right so in in the bio they'll have it where the website's there right it's as simple as literally you add your bank to it send them what it's usually 30 quid 50 quid or if you're some idiot they're charging daff prices you know what I mean nobody goes to you all right but like yeah say 30 50 quid and you send it to the account lease all right and then you got it
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you're sweet you know what I mean you don't have to pay after it gets a certain amount or whatever it's just your money you bought the beat so when you upload that do you get Do you have to prove something to like YouTube or whatever youtube no no no youtube that's That's sweet spotify like when it comes to distribution and everything that's when it gets a bit you got to Yeah yeah cuz if you you can get done over massively in that sort of game you get sued everything it's bad so you got So your track blows up but and it's someone
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else's music are you at risk of losing oh yeah you get taken down like that right okay and you can't wait years with them after saying "Oh come on i'll chuck you a bit extra." No no so So all these tracks that you're on say like on your Spotify you you've got an agreement yeah they're my Yeah not my I don't own them but it's like like y it's like one of them he's not like it's not his full-time job he's just like a nice one for the beat and a bit it's like you know what I mean pay as you go yeah
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that's good that was really good but obviously if it got to like a million views then I'd understanding like come on mate you know what I'm saying yeah but I'm sure as time goes on you you'll find other producers to work with and you might even have like a dedicated producer for a bit that's maybe makes you an album or you can work with them in the studio and that's another good thing I was going to say that I picked up on before as an artist you're like you're willing to listen for those little fine tuning bits and stuff
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because I've worked with people before in a studio i'm trying to make songs and stuff i'm not outing anyone just to be nice but um it can be really frustrating because I'll have a vision for a track and they're performing and I'll hear that they've just done a little bit that just doesn't sound as good as the other bits and then we do a few takes and that and then I've kind of said to artists before one of my good friends in the studio can you not just do that end bit a little bit like this or pronounce this
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word a little bit different because I think it'll work better because I can hear it as a producer and then sometimes you get a bit assive like I'll tell you what you do it then take the headphones off and it's like no but if this is why we don't get results this is why we don't get the results that we want and the finished tracks because they're not willing to listen to the producers who's got the vision that's what I mean not just the vision but they can obviously the artists got the vision but they know how it should
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sound on a track so yeah if you're willing to like grow with them and listen to them I mean they might not know what they're on about but if they do then the a few that No one of the ones I did before it's got it in a couple of them you'll probably hear it going back from past Make It Out no past where I'm from every tune there was always one problem like it could be you know what I mean or a little fault with the mic or whatever or it could be me messing words could be the engineer that's dragged that a bit too long you
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know what I mean oh right with Bradley it's like I can't credit him enough you know what I mean again he's like he's a sound guy to work with you can have a laugh with him but at the same time he'll get his job done and it's like he's you don't mess it up or anything if he thinks that will sound better then say "No no you need to change that." And so it's saying ear but no listen to him it's like again he's wor with top people so how can I fault someone that's doing that you know what I And honestly that's a really good
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strength for you to have because like I was saying it you're not being arrogant about it and saying "Nah I know better i know better that's what I've wrote so that's how it's staying." And I think that's right it's right it's right and then cuz you can't grow like that you know what I mean same on my podcasts and stuff other friends who are content creators will be like "Oh I think you should try this a bit different or do that or whatever." And and you grow from it you help each other along the way
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that's it so yeah honestly it's been been really good to have you have you on man that's it man i'm honored to have KJ the Kids first podcast interview here on IE Media over on YouTube and also audio is available on all streaming platforms Amazon Music Apple Podcast Spotify just to mention a few if you are listening on one of those apps you can get the video version on YouTube and equally if you listen on YouTube and you prefer to listen to podcasts as I do while I'm working then check the link tree you'll
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find all the links and everything so yeah big up KJ the kids man one more thing yeah step up remember that coming out soon step up pug it yeah so I will update the links and everything as your new track comes out and I I'll try and give it a little share as well on the socials um yeah guys honestly check this lad's music out you'll find all the links in the description we aren't disclosing his age but he don't sound young he's got the voice so keep smashing it man keep keep writing those lyrics you know man right
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i media episode 25 guys thanks for tuning in once again thanks for all your support and to the new subscribers out there on YouTube over the last few weeks um big special thanks to you guys as well just make sure that that you hit that bell so you do get notified when there's new uploads because I'm hearing off some subscribers that they're not even getting notified cuz YouTube decided to change the whole thing years ago with the whole bell thing and uh yeah it's hard work so yeah thanks again guys peace out