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Menopause Skincare Reset: Estrogen Loss & Skin Fitness

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Have you noticed your skin suddenly changing its glow, losing its firmness, or acting up with stubborn jawline breakouts as your hormone levels shift? Why did your skin suddenly change its glow? In this highly requested episode of the Connected Body Podcast, host Laura London sits down with renowned aesthetician Nancy Reagan to explain how estrogen loss slows cellular turnover and triggers jawline breakouts.

Discover the surprising link between muscle strength and facial fullness, why overdoing cardio can hollow out your cheeks, and how a low-tox, barrier-first routine can bring your radiant skin back.

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What You Will Learn in This Episode:

  • The Estrogen-Skin Connection: Exactly how a decline in hormones dries out skin cells, slows down natural exfoliation, and brings out hidden sunspots.
  • The Fitness-Skin Link: Why heavy weight lifting prevents facial skin sagging (laxity) while excessive cardio actually drains the essential fat from your face.
  • Microcurrent vs Injectables: How microcurrent therapy naturally trains your facial muscles to sit higher so you can skip the toxic chemical alternatives.
  • The Underground Acne Fix: Why painful jawline breakouts are an internal warning sign about environmental toxins, makeup brushes, and pillowcases.
  • Advanced Skin Longevity: Nancy’s thoughts on microneedling using peptides, exosomes, and NAD boosters to rewrite your cellular age.
  • Natural vs Clean Marketing: How to cut through the beauty industry buzzwords and build a truly safe, simple, and non-irritating skin barrier routine.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

Laura London

Hi everyone and welcome to the Connected Body Podcast. I am Laura London, founder of Laura LondonFitness.com. On the regular model, I get healthy and fit excited for the family. And I have not respected. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Connected Body Podcast. Today I have Nancy Reagan. She's a renowned aesthetician, skincare expert, and founder of the award-winning Bellerina Spa and Skin Diva Lab's vegan skin care line. With over 25 years in the beauty industry, she's known for empowering women to embrace their ageless glow inside and out. Featured in outlets like the New York Times and People's Style Watch, Nancy's passion for education and innovation has made her a trusted voice in skincare. She inspires women to embrace their ageless beauty from within. Her motto is keep glowing and going no matter your age. I absolutely love that you're in for a treat because we're talking all things skincare, fitness, and menopause. So please help me welcome Nancy Reagan to the Connected Body Podcast. Hi, everybody, and help me please welcome Nancy Reagan to the Connected Body Podcast. Hi Nancy. Hi, how are you? Great. I am so excited to have you on here. Like, just look at everybody. Look at the background, the spa. Nancy looks so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. I got the pleasure of going there a couple days ago and seeing everything. Absolutely beautiful. So, Nancy, today we're going to talk about fitness, skin care, and menopause. And I know you are so educated on all of these topics. So why don't we start with the estrogen skin care connection?

Estrogen’s Impact On Skin Health

Laura London

All right. So we women, when our estrogen drops during menopause, what is exactly happening to the skin at the cellular level? And what changes do women experience when that happens?

Nancy Reagan

So the estrogen has been for most women, it's like our powerhouse getting us through our, if you have children, our birthing years. And when it declines, our lubrication completely goes away. But from a cellular level, our skin now does not have that hormone driving. So the hormone starts declining. So with it becomes our dryness of our skin, our dehydration, the things that you thought were brown spots that were not there are now appearing. We have skin cells that are not actually functioning correctly. So they're not throwing off the dead skin as fast as they used to. It starts in peramenopause. So, and oftentimes women fight the the fact that the oil's going away. Oh, I still need that sunsi cleanser. And I'm like, uh no, you don't. Yeah. But it's uh it's a real fight because you see the changes. And if you're proactive, you can really make it like not hap, not have to be as harsh as it can be.

Laura London

Oh, that's oh my gosh, Nancy. I remember when my skin started to change and like it was crazy. There'd be hormonal breakouts, then it was dry and flaking and peeling. And I'm like, you know, putting oil, I'm like doing everything. I'm like, what in the world is going on?

Nancy Reagan

Right. Well, it really upsets the skin barrier if you're, especially if you have a toxic overload of chemicals in combination with the estrogen. Yeah. So if you are the, you know, the estrogen is losing, and let's say you're not eating really well or working out, the whole combination now is like a recipe for skin disaster because it's like, okay, you're eating all these toxins, the body cannot fight at all. And now you're, you know, if you're not working out, you're not doing what you're supposed to do for healthy skin and healthy body, it really makes a huge difference. I had a hysterectomy, so I was thrown right into it automatically. And even, you know, it's a it's a real shock to the system that yeah, oh yeah, we need we need all this stuff to make us feel great.

Laura London

Yeah. And I don't, I think, you know, when you're going through that perimenopause and menopause, it it hasn't been talked about so much in the past as it is starting to now about how the woman's body's changing, why it's changing, and what you can do about it. I know there's just a huge movement right now of education, like you are doing. Thank goodness. Because there's no reason for us to be just feeling like old shriveled up prunes, you know, not at all.

Nancy Reagan

No. And I love the fact that it's kind of like uh, hey, we're going to fight back about this because it makes a huge difference to all of the women that like literally, if if you're not doing it, so it's like let's not talk about our skin, but let's even talk about our bone health and our fitness. And you know, it makes such a difference to all of our parts, and it's like it should be discussed. And that's why we're doing these podcasts.

Laura London

And that's why we don't so leaning into that, that's the next question about exercise. Can exercise rebuild what menopause takes away? Oh

Lifestyle Toxins And Skin Barrier

Laura London

yeah. How does the exercise help the skin?

Nancy Reagan

So there is the cell cycle, and when we speed up the cell cycle, so I know everybody's had chemical peels or they've done things to the skin. There's also NAD, but you're speeding up the cell cycle. So when you do that, you are forcing the body to act at a younger range. When we're babies, our cells are spinning off like that. So fast. And as we get older, the ability of the skin to like actually exfoliate every month, it gets longer and longer unless you're really taking care of yourself. When you exercise, you're pumping more oxygen, more nutrients, more everything into your body. And when you do that, you're actually even speeding up the NAD of your own. And so when you do that, you're actually helping to make yourself look younger.

Laura London

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, bringing in the the nutrients, the oxygen, everything. Oh man, I remember when my skin was like, I didn't really realize uh about exfoliation and how much I really needed it as I was aging. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's why everything looks so dull and dry because I wasn't exfoliating, I wasn't 20 anymore, I wasn't 30 anymore, I wasn't 40 anymore. Right.

Nancy Reagan

It stops, and when it stops, it's like it's like, oh, okay, but you you need to like you you shouldn't overexfoliate, so you shouldn't go all the way to the other end, but you do need to realize that the whole body is really responsible for this how how you glow, like very much.

Laura London

And what about the legs? What is that with a woman's legs as we get older? They're so dry.

Nancy Reagan

Because it's the furthest away from the trunk, and literally our bodies are going to take care of our major organs first, yeah, and the limbs are just out here, like hanging out. And if you don't take care of them with exfoliating, like dry, you know, doing loofahs, exfoliating. It doesn't have to be, you don't want it harsh. And moving that those circulation around, it really makes a huge difference to all the body parts.

Laura London

Yeah. I think that's really huge what you said about not like not too much exfoliating, because I would be the one who'd get out like sandpaper and start exfoliating my the old-fashioned loofahs.

Nancy Reagan

Oh my gosh, they're so rough.

Laura London

Oh my gosh. And what about dry skin brushing? Do we like dry skin brushing? What are your comments?

Nancy Reagan

You want to like dry skin brushing, uh, it's also it can be lymphatic brushing. It's so good for the body. And um, I know that in the a lot of the different, like non-American cultures, but it is a big, huge thing that they've learned from centuries and centuries of actually brushing the body. And it all should go to the heart so that everything, all the lymphatic stuff, everything you're you're going

Exercise, Cell Turnover, And The Glow

Nancy Reagan

towards the heart every time you're brushing. If you're sitting down, do it on your legs, actually, you know, bend the legs, do it underneath. It's so good for the body.

Laura London

It feels so good. I do it every morning, and good for you. Get that nice rosy glow everywhere. You can see the blood flow just coming, and it does. It's very invigorating and it feels good.

Nancy Reagan

Yeah.

Laura London

Have you noticed a difference in your skin from that? Yes. Yes. Big time, big time. All right, let's see. Different workouts, different skin results. So, from your uh perspective, does cardio or strength training do more for the skin health? Like, how do they each affect the skin differently?

Nancy Reagan

Okay, it truly makes a difference on whether the woman is eating correctly. So when I have my cardio like runners, and those you'll oftentimes see them with very gaunt faces and they have a hollowness to them, is their fat in the face is gone because they the fat has now been used for energy because they didn't have enough protein while they were running. And I think that is a critical. There's a lot of conversation right now also about protein, but the when when as women, you definitely need the strength training. Yeah. You also need stability and balance training. Um that's that's not my forte, but I I learned it from a good trainer. Yeah. But it it makes um the the actual part of the fat in the face, you need that fat. You we need the in order for us not to look older and for us not to, for the skin not to feel gaunt. Because once the the fat is gone because you overdid the cardio or overdid the workout, it's not coming back. It's not something that you're gonna get back. So you want to be conscious of by the time you're 40 or 45, is changing your workout a little bit so you're not so, hey, gung-ho, um, I have a 50-year-old client who decided she was gonna be in a competition with her 20-year-old on cardio um at one of the workout places. And you can see her face because she's doing like this crazy amount of miles every day, and you can see the face start really changing because she's like not eating enough protein, and so the body uses the fat. And yeah, you just need a balance.

Laura London

Yeah, and it it gets to be um that excess cardio or excessive cardio as you get older. Um, it's like it's stress on the body, and we have to work out the body so differently. Every decade, really, our 30s, our 40s, our 50s, from the 50s to 60s, we really need to put in those heavy weights to keep that the muscle building, otherwise, sarcopenia just starts taking that muscle. And like you said, the balance and the mobility is so important at these ages.

Nancy Reagan

Just, you know, one that has nothing to do with the face, but I love getting up in the morning and standing in the mirror and trying to put on my shoe with like and do it with one legged. You know, it's my it's it's my um like like, hey, am I doing okay today? So if I can balance and put one shoe on, then do the other leg, then it's like, okay, I'm gonna be all right today. But it's a good test for your your body, but it's so important because I see women with, you know, our estrogen loss affects our skin, but it also affects our bone health. And when you fall, you're you're pretty much the the statistics are not good for when you break a hip. No, not at all.

Laura London

Not at all. So go everyone go lift your weights. But okay. Post-workout glow. Post-workout glow. So women almost always comment, you know, they have this beautiful glow when they're finished exercising and moving their body. Talk to us about the fitness glow.

Nancy Reagan

The fitness glow comes from two things. Number one, you are getting the oxygen going through your body now, and it is really making the skin look vibrant. And in addition to the oxygen, you your what is going through your veins, the nutrients are now getting to the cells faster. So it's almost like having your own chemical peel or having

Exfoliation, Legs, And Dry Brushing

Nancy Reagan

a facial done, or you're doing something that is massaging the skin because you've activated the cells to speed up and go faster. And that's the glow that makes it look like, oh wow, what did you just do? Yeah. And it could be something minor, but it like to you fitness-wise, but to everybody else, it's like, oh, I know what she's been working out, or she's been doing Pilates, or she's been doing something because it looks amazing.

Laura London

Yeah, and it's a whole uh body reaction. You're making all sorts of different chemicals and things are going on in the body that that just it's just benefits every every square inch of the beautiful body. Every square inch. Every square. Well, look at Nancy's face, everyone. She's just so beautiful. So beautiful. All right, let's see. Muscle, metaz the metabolism and skin quality. So we talked about maintaining muscle for the skin quality. Um, but does it the muscle does it help to protect the skin? What happens if we're working out and we have more muscle now?

Nancy Reagan

So how does that affect okay? So, and I really love talking about the muscles and the face because so many women will be so fast to go get a facelift because what they're they're like, oh, I don't like this right here. But it's actually a muscle that is causing this right here. These are our muscles that are and the skin, because the muscle is going down and there's no exercise, you're actually seeing the skin drop and or droop. When you see this, it's it's a fact of the muscles. And you can do microcurrent lifting, you can do a lot of things, you know. But when we start seeing these things happen, it the muscles, just like the body, you you want to make sure that we're working out and we're doing our lifting and everything like that. The skin will accommodate the muscle structure, and you will won't see the laxness in the skin. So you your laxity will all of a sudden start disappearing. And that is a beautiful thing. Even like there's a fitness guru that's on Instagram that I see, and she's like 85 years old, or you know, and she started working out when she was 70. And she went from having the the flappy arms underneath with the skin to now there the skin is completely taut underneath, and it's it's a combination of the muscles, the skin getting fed what it needs, and the two work together. Microcurrent for the face is truly one of your best friends because the skin on top needs to look. I mean, everybody jumps to, oh, let me go get some Botox. Um, I'm just not a huge fan of Botox. It's a poison that you're putting in your body. There are some alternatives out there now that are better because they don't have the protein structure of the Botox like brand. But at the same time, you're talking about the reason you're you have the fine lines and wrinkles, is is the fact that your muscles aren't doing their job. They're not working out in your face. Exactly. So it's like microcurrent's really awesome for that. You'd be hysterical.

Laura London

I probably have every facial contraption that they made for the past, I don't know, 20 years. Hysterical from from things that's like move your face to do it, you know, do it. I and I I love them. I love them. People used to make fun of me, and I remember going to like um a dermatologist, and they're like, oh no, you should never like work your face or do anything. And I'm it intuitively, I was like, I just don't, it that doesn't fit right now.

Nancy Reagan

I've been doing microcurrent on clients since probably 1999. So we I

Cardio vs Strength For Skin And Face Fat

Nancy Reagan

had this giant like Casey machine from England that was fabulous and it was amazing. I mean, and what it does is almost like a tens unit. So if you're you know working out, but what it does for the the face is remarkable.

Laura London

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. So let's touch on for a moment just um hormone replacement therapy, because I know that's a really big field, and that's not really what we're talking about here, but yes, no, maybe.

Nancy Reagan

Yes, run, go as fast as you can. Um, all I can say is back in the day, there were many people that fought very hard for bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. Um, I really, from my own personal experience of having a hysterectomy and been giving pharmaceuticals versus bioidentical hormone replacement, it makes a huge difference. And my second comment is make sure that it is personalized for you. One patch, one size does not fit all. Your progesterone, your estrogen, your testosterone, it's all gonna be very different. Then mine's gonna be different than yours. Right. And I see a lot of it where, oh, well, he gave the doc gave me a patch, and it's the same patch as he gave, you know, Mary Sue, and he gave it to Alice, and he gave it to everybody. And that's not how it works. So the bioidentical makes a huge difference in the skin, it's like phenomenally different, and I can almost again tell you who's doing doing bioidentical and who isn't when they start to go their 50s and they start going 55, 60, it makes a huge difference.

Laura London

I agree, I totally agree. I think um, again, there's so much information now out there that I encourage everyone to do their own research and learn and see what might be right for them because there is a lot. Yeah, from my own experience, I uh went on a a patch. Oh, it was not a good experience, and I'll just leave it at that. Sorry.

Nancy Reagan

So I'm sorry. Well, I I can tell you about like even the the pharmaceutical ones. I mean, I would like that and my my my ex-husband would be going, Are you all right today? And I'd be just crying. I never cry for anything. So he knew something was really wrong. I'm like, oh well, they gave me a new hormone.

Laura London

It was like, no, no, it needs to be personalized. Yeah, it really, really does. Thank you for pointing that out because that's super important. Okay. So what kind of beauty treatments we talked about the needling, but others that might um benefit women going through menopause? I know you have a whole list here. Yes, we do on her beautiful menu.

Nancy Reagan

Um for I love microneedling. Um, I will warn you, please do not do radio frequency microneedling, just do plain good old microneedling. Um, also make sure what the provider or I encourage you probably not to do it at home, but you you know, there's many of you out there that will do it anyway. Um, make sure that what you are putting in the skin is pharmaceutical grade ingredients that is going in the skin because you do have an open area in the skin, and what's going in the skin and what you're channeling into the skin needs to be as sterile as possible, and the best ingredients you can put in. So I want you to be putting in stem cells, peptides, NAD boosters, everything that is going to exosomes, um, PDRN, which is a salmon DNA that replicates. There's so many longevity ingredients available now that we can microneedle and use for treatments that we didn't have even five years ago. So there's a lot on the forefront as far as what you can even use at home and what you can expect your skin to like do and perform. I would highly suggest you do something monthly and keep up with it because the ongoing your daily routine is as more important than your monthly facials out, but doing it all the time and consistently is going to give you the most amazing skin.

Laura London

Yeah, just like working out, it's the consistency you can continue to do it and take care of. So talk to us. I know you have this beautiful vegan skincare line. Let's touch on that a little bit.

Nancy Reagan

Yes, it's it's kind of dear to my heart. Um, it's called Scandiva Labs. Um, it is a process of what we were seeing is we had cancer patients and we also had people that were menopausal and sensitive scan and rosacea, where literally I couldn't put anything on their face, and they would be going, oh my God, and they would scream because it was like, eh, this is not doesn't feel good. Right. So it started as a search for doing a facial in the room. And one thing led to another where me working with a biochemist, we came up with this very simple, because I like everything, super simple, not like no, no, no big things, um, no 10 steps that it had to be super simple, but it had to fix the barrier of the skin so that women that were going through paramenopause, menopause, and cancer, when we do the our barrier of our skin just goes haywire. And it had to do that, plus help the skin look amazing. So we came up with it, we started using it at the spa in facials, we had some more professional products added, and one

Muscle, Facial Laxity, And Microcurrent

Nancy Reagan

thing led to another, and it was just pretty amazing. It just was it it has ended up being spectacular, and we've like it's been out since 2023. Um, so we've been kind of we sold it at the spa, and this past year we actually added it online. So it's been it's been a little bit of a journey.

Laura London

Oh yeah. Well, speaking of that, I know on your website you have a coming soon like a Black Friday special, yes?

Nancy Reagan

Yes, we do. That that one actually is for the spa. Okay. Um, and if you want to give your actual listeners something special for the YouTube, we can do a special for you too. If you want to do, I can create a little discount code for it.

Laura London

We'll we can put that in the yeah, we can put definitely put that in the show notes if you're in South Florida.

Nancy Reagan

You definitely want to go see Nancy. Yeah, we ship nationally, so um, everywhere it goes all over. So awesome.

Laura London

Awesome.

Nancy Reagan

I love that we can make that happen.

Laura London

We'll make we will make that happen. All right, I took a little poll on my YouTube channel and asked them like, what were their two top concerns with skincare and menopause? And we kind of touched a little bit the it was like a 50-50, asked four questions, and two of them were 50-50. Um, natural or holistic skincare approaches for women in menopause. So they were concerned about uh, you know, what should I do? Natural or holistic skincare approaches.

Nancy Reagan

We kind of touched on just okay, natural is a big, um often used word that is not um a lot of people don't abide by it in the marketing world. So when you ask me to do it naturally, for some people it's like, okay, am I using Yahoba oil or am I using just an oil, or am I using a product that has no toxins, no um fragrances, no dyes, and it's that's considered to be clean. Right. The definition of clean and natural is so hard for consumers. Yeah, I find it it's very, very hard, but I think naturally to me, by aging means hey, I'm not gonna have surgery, or maybe I will try to do It the best I can with skincare and facial treatments or and working out and really taking care of my whole body.

Laura London

Yeah, yeah. That makes, I mean, yes, the whole it's the whole package. It's the whole thing. It's the whole thing. All right. The other it's a whole package. The other top one was dealing with acne or breakouts linked to hormonal changes during menopause. That was that was the other 50.

Nancy Reagan

Okay. So when your estrogen and your testosterone and your progesterone are haywire, you are going to get an excess of oil. So not only do you have that excess of oil, but you may be eating something toxic-wise that is bothering your body. And you may have eaten it for the last 20 years, but now your body has said, you know, Nancy, I've had enough of you. You, I'm going to make this giant bump, and it's going to hurt like heck. And I'm going to tell you, you put something in me you shouldn't have. Yep. So if your body is coming out with all of these bumps, it depends on whether they come to a head or whether I call them undergrounders. So the undergrounder is one that hurts like heck. It never comes to a head, but it is something you have ingested that you have put in your body and your body does not like. If you will

Thoughts On Hormone Therapy

Nancy Reagan

go back two or three days prior, you will usually try to figure out kind of like what it is. Did you clean your makeup brushes? Um, are you still using that sponge that you've been using? This cell phone, right? I mean, all of those things are going to bring toxins to your skin. So if it's a blackhead or a white head that has a head to it, you are going, that's a different type of acne. Um, the estrogen acne that I see a lot of is all along the jawline, usually. Um, and when it's anywhere else, it's usually usually from something environmental that she, you know, she's been using on or makeup brushes, could be fragrance in laundry detergent. Yeah, it could be sheets, it could be like like the pillowcase, could be irritating, it could have polyester. There are so many chemicals that we come in contact with daily that your body literally is bombarded, and your liver can only do so much.

Laura London

Yeah, yeah. And and you know, it's like the air con your liver is your air conditioning filter, and when it gets bogged down, everything starts slowing down and it just compounds. And you know, during my um early bodybuilding years, it's like I had I I was just a regular mom, right? Getting in trying to get in shape, and I got into this whole bodybuilding thing, and I was eating a lot of probably um artificial sweeteners, chicken, probably not organic chicken. I can't oh um no, whatever. But I would I was having right here, like like you said, like there would be these this clear stuff was coming out, it was this hormonal breakout a little bit here. So, you know, then I got I educated myself, and then I turned and I went green and did it green, and people were like, wow, your skin looks great. Wow, how come your hair doesn't look dry like all the other competitors? What what are you doing? And it was because I was putting in clean food, healthy food, taking out the chemicals makes such a difference.

Nancy Reagan

It's such a difference. If if you can get like one person to stop with the chemicals in their skincare, like artificial like nails, the gel nails that are out there, like the acrylic nails. I mean, literally the toxins are in the body in 10 minutes, and nobody wants to really talk about it, but it affects your estrogen and progesterone and everything that we do through menopause, it totally affects it.

Laura London

Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. I know I used to give this example to people, like you know, because people are putting on the lotions and potions on their skin and not really thinking about it, like we're talking about. But if they can put a birth control patch on the outside of a woman's body to keep her from getting pregnant, where do you think all those things that people are putting on their skin? Like it's it's very eye-opening, yeah. Okay. So,

Treatments: Microneedling And Longevity Actives

Laura London

what are some other things that I didn't ask that we should do? Oh gosh. I know you could talk forever because you're the expert.

Nancy Reagan

Expert could be here for days. I just really like the um the more you take care of you, um, being grateful and every day is like you have to take care of you. No, nobody's gonna do this for you. Yeah. And as I see that, um, and I've stayed in the game because it's like part of was the the fact that I saw these women that were like 70, and like there's late-time divorces now. So people are getting a divorce that's I was divorced at 60, and all of a sudden your assurance, your self-assurance, and all of a sudden it's not quite as great as like when you were like 30, you didn't really care that much, you know. So I think it's like part of the taking care of yourself and making sure that you're supporting you from the inside out, from all over your whole body, like from what you use on your skin to how you eat to everything.

Laura London

Yeah, total, total body health and wellness for sure. It makes such a difference. All right, Nancy, tell everyone where they can find you online, all social media, website, all that good stuff.

Nancy Reagan

Okay, again, I'm Nancy Regan. You can find me at Skindivalabs.com. Also, I'm on YouTube at Skindiva Labs and Instagram. And if you really want to email us at Glow at skindivalabs.com and we'll be glad to help you out and answer any questions.

Laura London

Yeah, if they have any questions, she is Nancy is the go-to lady for skin and beauty.

Nancy Reagan

Thank you, Laura.

Laura London

Yeah. All right. If we could leave one piece of wisdom and advice from all that you've learned, what would that be? What would you want everyone to really share with everyone?

Nancy Reagan

So my um, and I've I've had some hard knocks. Um, I and I think everybody has hard knocks. Oftentimes people don't really realize they that they can pick themselves up again. Um, and so oftentimes people ask me, like, how do you do this? Or why didn't you just quit? Or like, hey, why do you just keep going? Or don't you want to retire? Why are you still working? And every day it's like you put one foot in front of the other, and I just say, keep glowing and going. That's my that's my like philosophy, because it's like the more you can create your inner like gratitude and health, and create it so that you're happy and you're joyous, and it's about life and being the best we can at life. And yeah, the more we look in the mirror and the more we feel good about ourselves, yeah. You and but you have to keep going. You have to. You just cannot just sit on the couch. It just doesn't work.

Laura London

Consistency, ladies. It's that consistency, right?

Nancy Reagan

It just doesn't work.

Laura London

Yeah, there's no wagon to fall off. No. Spoiler alert, there is no wagon, you just get right back on.

Nancy Reagan

No, uh-uh. And I mean we all have those pity days where it's like, okay, I'm gonna stick my head in the sand, I wanna stay there. But at the end of you get like one day or one hour, but that's it. Exactly.

Laura London

Exactly. Or and if you're there and you can't get out, phone a friend, phone alone. Exactly.

Nancy Reagan

I mean, any longer, it's like you perpetuate the negativity and you perpetuate the fact that you can't like going down that hole, and I mean, it's just I've I've been there, I know what it's like, and you have to keep going.

Laura London

Yeah, thank you. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, and it it is never too late. It is never ever. My mom is 86, right? She travels the world, she is quite amazing. My mom, she's English. Um, and I I'm just so inspired because she says, What's the alternative? I could sit home in a rocking chair and and do nothing, and she just keeps going. So that's so cool. It's so cool. Love her, love her. Um I want to be like her. I know. I'm like, she's my inspiration. All right, Nancy. Thank you so much so much, Laura. It was a pleasure, and we learned a lot. And again, if anyone has any questions, I'm gonna put Nancy's email down in the show notes and you can contact her. Thank you. That's it. So that's gonna end this uh episode of the Connected Body Podcast. And everyone, say bye bye to Nancy. Bye. All right, everyone. Thank you, thank you, Nancy. And we'll see everyone, or I'll see everyone on the next episode of the Connected Body Podcast. Bye bye.