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Tudor M. Testimony
Tudor's journey from battling obesity to becoming a vibrant health coach is nothing short of transformative. Together, we explore his inspiring story of faith, fitness, and the power of personal change, as he recounts the life-altering encounter with Rowdy, that Jesus used to spark his extraordinary weight loss journey. This episode is a testament to the miracles that can occur when we prioritize health and treat our bodies as temples, and it serves as a beacon of hope for anyone striving for physical and spiritual renewal.
We also dive into the fascinating worlds of family, entrepreneurship, and faith-driven resilience. A touching narrative unfolds of a young man who, despite a turbulent youth, discovered his passion for electronics and entrepreneurship, leading to a thriving career. Against the backdrop of blended family dynamics and entrepreneurial ventures, listeners will find inspiration in the stories of overcoming life's trials through faith, family support, and a relentless spirit. From nostalgic baseball card trading to innovative business initiatives, the stories shared reflect the beauty of reconciliation and new beginnings.
Moreover, we shine a light on the remarkable power of generosity and community outreach in driving social change. Through moving accounts of prison ministry, food donation efforts, and heartfelt acts of service, this episode underscores the transformative impact of faith and love in uplifting communities. We celebrate the incredible achievements of individuals like Antonio, whose spiritual calling led to the creation of a church within a prison, and the resilience shown in facing adversity. As we wrap up, we are reminded of the profound effects of forgiveness, love, and commitment to serving others, leaving our audience motivated to continue their own journeys of personal and communal growth.
all right, everybody. Welcome back to the speak live az podcast testimony of jesus and everyday people. I'm your host, eddie, and always with me it's my son, rowdy jesus what's going?
Speaker 2:on, brother, man, dude, what a good day. That was a good day. It was a really good day, man. Um, today came in for staff and, uh, pastor brought us all into the worship center, man, and we just had a time of ministry. Just for the staff, bro, just the presence of god soaking for us man we're always giving out and pouring out man every now and then. We just need jesus too, man what do we always say?
Speaker 1:who encourages the encourager? Man amen buddy I love that scripture where it says sometimes you gotta encourage yourself and encourage yourself in the lord. That's a good day for me, man. We were busy.
Speaker 2:Dude is he, that's good. Prayers are being answered. But I gotta stop praying for that. God's taking you somewhere with that. It's been a good day man, stay faithful.
Speaker 1:I'm excited, bro, you get to hear what God did again in somebody's life man. That always gets me excited, bro. Who'd you bring with you, man?
Speaker 2:I got my brother, man Tudor, what's up? Hey, I'm honored to be here, man. This is awesome, bro, nice to meet you too. Hold on, hold on Before we get started. My mother. She specifically told me to tell you thank you so much for the cabin, the Airbnb and that weekend and that time that we had up there. She said to make sure to tell you that the place was beautiful and the presence inside the home was peaceful.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's awesome, yeah rowdy, I'm just so proud of you and I met you about three years ago and we were sitting in the front row in rocky point and I was sitting there with my wife. I'm almost getting emotional over this, because I looked at rowdy and you were quite heavy. Okay, you were. You were a big boy and I thought 350 pounds 350 pounds and I pounds and I said to Susie, I said we got to help him. I didn't know how.
Speaker 3:I didn't know how I was going to help him. But you know, back then I was and I still am on my health coach and I've helped over 500 people. But I wanted to help Rowdy because I could see the presence of God just permeating out of him. And you could just tell I mean he was on fire that night and he stood out in a way that only Jesus could do that, and I was just attracted to him because of the spirit coming out of him and, sooner or later, here we are.
Speaker 1:Come on. The following year Come on. The next year goes by and I see Rowdy again.
Speaker 3:And I said okay, rowdy it's time. It's time it sure was let's get you healthy. Because if you think about it, Jesus probably only had 5% body fat.
Speaker 2:He was healthy.
Speaker 1:He was healthy. He was walking. He was healthy. It was amazing to watch the transformation take place, bro, you know what I mean, and just to see. I mean even there seeing it, you still see it. You know what I mean, because a lot of times when you're in the presence with someone and as they're on their journey, you don't really notice it, but it was something that was very noticeable. Man just to watch him kind of shrink.
Speaker 2:That's what he does. He's like you don't have a butt, no more. I know, I saw it.
Speaker 1:I saw it with my own eyes.
Speaker 3:And you know, rowdy, you're part of my team of people that I'm just so proud of because you know everybody's got a choice in life. That's right you know we all have choices on what we want to do and how we want to treat our body, and our body's a temple right.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:And if we don't treat it like a temple, it's not going to treat you right.
Speaker 2:You can't outrun the fork.
Speaker 1:No, you know, I'm glad you said that, because that's what I tell a lot of people. I say okay, now you want to start getting healthy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm at the gym and I'm exercising and I'm on the treadmill and I'm doing 45 minutes of of bike rowing and I said that's all good. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 2:But what is your weight doing well I really haven't lost anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't outrun that for you can't outrun the fork man, but uh, but you know, I got to know rowdy and I'll tell you a little bit about what happened to me. In 2005 we went to rocky point.
Speaker 2:We just tutor, yes, before we, before we get started, yeah, let me, uh, pray real quick, yes, and then we'll kind of just get into it. You got it, let's do it. Jesus man, lord, I thank God for your son. I thank you, jesus, for the Speak Life AZ podcast. God, I thank you for this time that we're getting ready to spend. Lord, I just pray for Tudor right now in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2:God, if there's any walls or anything in Jesus' name, just come down. This is a safe place, god. Thank you, lord. I thank you for your son. I thank you that this is going to touch some people, god, some people are going to find healing and freedom from this story. So I just pray in the name of Jesus that your will be done. Amen, amen. So you have. You've listened to a couple of these. You know kind of what we do. When God gave this to us, it was actually during the COVID, and for a while, me and dad set it up in my room and we're making videos and doing preaching online. It was not at all what God told us to do. We made it, we, we.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're like okay, I'll do this with it and God's like that's not what I said and and it went nowhere. It did nothing. But once we sat down and we started to do what God told us to do, which is Speak Life AZ podcast, the testimony of Jesus and everyday people, it doesn't matter if you're a muffler man down there at the shop cutting up cars and changing engines, or myself man facilities maintenance. You know the processing and computing and coaching and stuff that you've done in life. We're all everyday people, we've all got a story, we've all come from somewhere. So that's really what this is today.
Speaker 2:Tudor is just. We want to know who Tudor is man. We want to know where you were born. Let's start at the very beginning your parents, your mom and dad, brothers and sisters. What was your home like growing up? Was God in the home? Was church even something that you were involved in as a kid? We love talking about the school because me and dad working in recovery, a lot of the people that we work with man, the hurts, habits and hangups that we have in our life a lot of that's from trauma at an early age.
Speaker 2:So if you want to get into any of that, but then I think the most important thing that we want to record today is your encounter with Jesus, the moment when God became so real to you that you're like, okay, god's real, because when you encounter God, if you look in the Bible, everything changes when people encounter Jesus Transformation, transformation, it's life change. That's the evidence of somebody actually having a relationship with God. So we want to know who you were, where you're, from your encounter with God. Then your life change After your encounter. How did your life change? Because, after your encounter, um, what? How did your life change? Um, because it does. It always does. Um.
Speaker 2:I think the coolest thing about this is um, at the very end. We want to get what you're hoping for in the future tutor. Um, because you're a man of vision, you're a man of faith, you're a man that makes moves and you're you're doing stuff, um. So I know God's put stuff in that heart that hasn't manifested physically yet, but he's up there just waiting for the perfect time to release it to you. So, just kind of what you're hoping for in the future, because we've got listeners that actually come into agreement with. We're going to pray for you at the end, but our listeners will be praying for you which is yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, I'm the youngest of six, oh wow. For you, which is yeah, it's really cool. Well, you know, I'm the youngest of six, oh wow, moved out here when I was five years old, from new york, nice. My dad put us all in a station wagon, all but my oldest brother. He stayed back there because he had a job new york city yeah, long island, east meadow oh wow, I was born in east meadow, new york that's a, that's one of the boroughs.
Speaker 2:It is yeah, yeah, and it's a beautiful and it's a beautiful area.
Speaker 3:I go back there every few years but moved out to Arizona. Was here when I was six years old.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I don't remember much with my dad. Unfortunately, he passed away when I was 16. But it was left at the end. It was just my mom and I. Everybody else had moved out, and so I had to go to work. I had to go to work. My dad owned apartments in Phoenix, so I became the landlord for a couple years and took care of my mom.
Speaker 3:I lived with my mom and at the age of 18, I got out of high school and went right to work for an electronics company in Phoenix Wow, Was there any as a young kid with mom?
Speaker 2:was there any church you?
Speaker 3:know we did. One thing I do want to bring up is that my mom and dad went to church every sunday amen and it was a it's more like a catholic based church, but hey, we were there, you're there you know, and I. I know my mom and dad. They were sunday school teachers oh, wow and uh, I remember beating up a kid in school, in church, one time you know, but uh, but I was a rowdy kid, you know I grew up as a bully.
Speaker 1:Honestly, yeah, in middle school.
Speaker 3:You know, because I was the shortest kid in middle italian.
Speaker 1:I was italian yeah, you got temper.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had a temper, and it's so funny because my two of my best friends in high school. I ended up beating them up and they made after high school.
Speaker 2:Isn't it funny how a fight will bring you closer together with people. It does. It's funny.
Speaker 3:And you know, 40, 50 years later, I'm still communicating. Wow, so yeah, Wow Me and my best friend Steve, were like that.
Speaker 1:We fought all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, but we still talk.
Speaker 3:We have a young age.
Speaker 2:Before you go into school how was school for you? School was?
Speaker 3:I just barely made it honestly, I was one of those kids that didn't really listen to the teachers and I did my own thing Too busy fighting, yeah I was fighting.
Speaker 2:I was ditching classes, any drugging or drinking back.
Speaker 3:No, just drinking, okay, a little bit of drinking, yeah, but nothing.
Speaker 1:How far above you is your next sibling?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's like my, my brother's, about four years old, that's what he is.
Speaker 2:There was a nice gap yeah so you're the baby of the family. I'm the baby of the family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you can still be the baby and have brothers just a year older than you, so I was just curious about the age gap.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my oldest brother is 13 years older than me. And he's the one that got me into electronics. My oldest brother got me into electronics because he worked for the same company and he knew that I wanted a job after high school, wanted to earn my own money, and he got me a job there and the company grew. When I was there it was like 300 people and it grew to 5,000 people. Oh wow, it grew rapidly because they got a big contract with IBM.
Speaker 1:But after that— Like microchips or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was dealing with computers IBM's main—they're called mainframes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what we were building mainframes, nice man.
Speaker 2:The actual. Hard— the actual hard drives and all that.
Speaker 3:Wow, and so I got involved in computers way back. When is this yeah?
Speaker 2:this is 1974. Oh my goodness, Tudor, Wow, 74. This is before computers was even a thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I was two years old.
Speaker 3:Yeah, IBM was coming on strong.
Speaker 2:God's been really good to you, bro. Oh yeah, he has. It has been.
Speaker 3:And you know I didn't step away from God.
Speaker 1:How did you get into that? Because at that time electronics like computers were not really that much talked about.
Speaker 3:They really were not.
Speaker 1:So what brought that on your brother being in it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, my brother was in electronics. He'd been in it with Kodak.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, so he was with Kodak back in New York and Rochester.
Speaker 2:Isn't that the camera? Yeah, the Kodak camera.
Speaker 3:So he was part of that when they were developing the camera for the moon, for the camera that went to the moon Wow. So, he was part of that team, but he's been in electronics and he's a draftsman, yeah, and he's really good at what he does. Come on. He's an entrepreneur and he's really good, so I went to work there and I worked there until 1979. Really. And then he left the company and they hired him to build a printed circuit board shop. Whoa, pcbs, yeah, making raw boards.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so he hired me to go work for him Come on, so I was going over there at nights.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And working with him and putting in all the equipment that's needed All day.
Speaker 2:You would work at the job. I'd work at Courier. Oh wow, it was called Courier.
Speaker 3:I-T-T Courier. I'd work there all day and then at night I'd go spend a couple hours helping him.
Speaker 2:Make some boards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, making you know, putting in the equipment. Okay, the big equipment that is required to make the boards. And then, in 1980, he left there and started a company in Chandler another board shop, a printed circuit board shop called Megadyne, and we had about a hundred employees, wow, and we had a couple of investors and after a couple of years we were not making money and so the investors, um uh, talked him into leaving and I and I stayed on.
Speaker 3:I stayed on as a manager and then, um, we brought in some help and the next thing I know Honeywell buys us out. So we ended, so I ended up becoming a manager of Honeywell. Wow, so we had that facility from 1980 to about 1985, 1986 timeframe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I left there Making boards, making circuit boards.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, we were making circuit boards for Honeywell and these were the high-tech boards. These were really high-tech boards.
Speaker 1:I remember my mom working at a place in Chandler that did microchips, Microchips yeah. She started at Motorola Right. It was on Dobson and Broadway. She started there. She was one year away from her 20 years to where she could retire. They did a big layoff and let her go, and so she went to some place in Chandler I forget what it was called. Yeah, it could be called microchip it might have been yeah. California something, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I wasn't even born then, so don't look at me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she went over there and did microchips over there too.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, that's what the circuit boards need. They need those microchips, and so he ended up leaving and starting another company with my uncle in 1989. And they hired me back. So they hired me away from Honeywell which I'm glad. I left because that facility two years later shut down, oh wow, and it became dormant for 10 years. But I went to work for them in Tempe making printed circuit boards, come on, and it did very well.
Speaker 1:That's cool. Let me nerd out for a second. Yeah, so when you?
Speaker 2:Go ahead, buddy, you don't like it when I get it. No, you're good dude, so on them circuit boards.
Speaker 1:When you see the little lines that connect everything, how is that made?
Speaker 3:Well, it's made with a substrate called copper copper foil on top of fiberglass. So you've got copper foil, very thin layer of copper foil on both sides of a sheet of fiberglass, really About the size of a sixteenth of an inch. Oh my goodness, and that's what's in that iPad that you're?
Speaker 2:sitting right there.
Speaker 3:That's all one big circuit board, and so that's all printed with imagery.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's printed with imagery. They print the image onto a substrate.
Speaker 1:So somebody designs it on a computer and then they do like a printing type thing.
Speaker 3:They take a photo of it and it's all digitized now and they print an image on the copper. It has a film on there that the light penetrates and it hardens that part of the film and then they etch away the excess part of the film and it leaves just the lines Come on, man, and all the little pads. So cool dude yeah, and and I was fascinated with it. You know I I made circuit boards my pretty much my whole life very tedious work.
Speaker 3:It was it's. It can be very tedious, yeah, and so I left there, that's the one.
Speaker 1:They have all the little things that stick up that you got to put in, all those little components yep, all those little ic chips yeah, man and, but anyway, I left there and didn't know what I was going to do.
Speaker 3:My brother wouldn't talk to me, really. Yeah, we got into a little bit of an argument Because my uncle was running the company and they hired me to run it and he left and moved to California, oh man. So he didn't like the fact Because he knew if I left the company would go under.
Speaker 2:But we had 45 employees and I didn't want those people to suffer. Yeah, and they would have lost their jobs. How old were you at this time?
Speaker 3:but I was 20, I was 30, 34, dang, 34 years old, running a company that was at 45 employees. Wow, bro, and it, uh, it really. It really helped me a lot because it taught me how to deal with people you can see in your heart.
Speaker 1:I see it now seeing what you do on facebook and watching you stuff. You already had that heart for people back then, seeing the fact that these 45 people were counting on me, counting on you for their livelihood. Yeah, and you didn't want to see that diminished or them to be left.
Speaker 3:You already had that heart, bro well, and that's that's one of the reasons I stayed and that comes back from my childhood.
Speaker 1:My dad was a giver Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember when we moved out to Arizona the first time, we were just outside of Flagstaff at a roadside rest and we were all getting ready to have lunch. It was our last stop before we hit Tempe and we had the sandwiches out, we had watermelon, we had all this food out and my dad noticed a family sitting a little ways away from us and ended up coming back to our table and took all the food to them.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:And I remember getting in the car and I was crying because I was hungry, yeah, and we were pulling away and I was looking at that family and to this day that's drilled in my brain.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 3:How my dad gave the all our food away and he gave him some money and that that right there really set in motion of being a giver and that really did change for me. When I was about 18 years old I became a giver and I didn't realize that I was giving. You know, sometimes you give things away and you don't even think about it, yeah, and you're blessing people. But back then I really didn't know I was blessing people. Come on, but that all changed. And now let me fast forward a little bit up to 1992. My brother finally called me.
Speaker 2:In your 20s and while you're working and I'm assuming that you're not living with mom and dad until you have your own place and you're doing your own thing, yeah.
Speaker 3:I got married at 22. Oh, okay, so I met. I met a girl at at courier, yeah. I met her there and we got married and had two boys. Come on.
Speaker 1:So I've got uh.
Speaker 3:I've got Ryan and Brent and uh Brent is uh going to be just turned 42 and. Ryan's 44. So, uh, yeah, doing both successful and got two grandkids from Ryan, which is awesome A 17 year old and a 12 year old. So next year we're going on a cruise a graduation cruise with my grandkids and my family and we're going to do a cruise.
Speaker 3:But uh, family and we're going to do a cruise, but uh, but yeah that, um, did you raise your family in church? I did, yeah, I did take them to a like a church school.
Speaker 2:Okay, they were in a church where they would go there, and it was their young age yeah and it was a christian-based school school that's what it was, and and now better in public education, bud, and it's really great because the grandkids are in that kind of a school now. Amen Amen.
Speaker 3:But my boys went to public school here in Chandler Corona High School and we blended two families. So, I got divorced in 1990, and I met Susie, my current wife. I met her in 1993.
Speaker 2:I love you, Susie. You're the best.
Speaker 3:She did not want to go to lunch with me. Her girlfriend kept bugging her and bugging her.
Speaker 1:She said you got to go to lunch with this guy.
Speaker 3:She was going through a divorce and her husband had left her and my first wife had left me. Yeah, so we had something in common something in common, but we didn't. She didn't know it, yeah, so we went to lunch and 10 months later we got married nice for a girl that didn't want to go to lunch with me.
Speaker 1:So we got.
Speaker 3:We got married january 1st wow, hey, january 1st 1994, yeah, but here's what it got tough you had your two boys and she had her. She had a daughter, okay, so we had a like 11, 12 and 13 year old. Yeah, and they did not like each other oh, no, they they did not like. They wanted mom back, and she wanted dad back, yeah, and so they made it very difficult that first five years was was really tough on both of us but my mom mom lived with me, so that made it even tougher.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 3:So my mom lived with me because she, when I got divorced, my mom, was my nanny, so she was helping me get the kids ready in the morning because I was off to work early in the mornings.
Speaker 2:Thank God for mamas.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but she would let them ditch.
Speaker 2:They didn't feel like going to school, she let them ditch.
Speaker 3:So when Susie came into the picture it was not happening. We got structure now.
Speaker 1:We got discipline.
Speaker 3:And you're going to school and you're getting good grades.
Speaker 1:I know why they were so difficult.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they had to do with Grandma. And Susie became my youngest son's tutor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, she taught him.
Speaker 3:She spent three to four hours every night helping him with reading and math and just everything, and she got him through high school.
Speaker 2:That takes a special kind of person to be able to have that patience For four years.
Speaker 3:Susie was my youngest son's teacher for all practical purposes, because every day she called the teacher and said, okay, what kind of homework? Because Brent wouldn't bring it home. And so Susie said well, I, I got a fax machine at work. Why don't you just fax me his homework every?
Speaker 2:day, oh man, your son, yeah, she would come home and say where's your homework?
Speaker 3:And he'd say oh, they didn't give us homework today and she'd go. I got it right here, boy, here, look what I.
Speaker 2:That's a good woman. That's a good woman. I give Susie all the credit for my youngest son because he's a finance manager now, wow, that math came in handy. He's a finance manager.
Speaker 3:And he's doing very well in life. Extremely well Come on. And so both boys Ryan's a realtor.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And he's doing extremely well. Right now there's a company out there called Place and they're getting ready to go public in the next couple of years.
Speaker 2:So they hired him and, uh, he's doing very well with them it says everything about parents and how their kids come out man it really is and how, how they are able to parent my pastor we try to say, bro, what, yeah, you raised?
Speaker 3:big kids, but my pastor dude.
Speaker 2:One time he sits down and he's all rowdy. Your parents raised big kids. I was like what? And he's all? You can either raise adults or you can raise kids. Yeah, and I got. I'm just a big kid. But I'm learning and growing. Now, dude, but it's real, it is parenting is a real fall you got. Oh my god, don't start that. Bud, you bud. You're not going to hear the end of that one.
Speaker 3:This really brings back a little memory, because 1980 to 1985, I was a baseball card seller. Oh wow. I did shows all over the country doing baseball cards Nice, and they'd bring in some major hitters. Wow. And I remember one time we had Mickey Mantle at signing autographs.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, and.
Speaker 3:I've got a Mickey Mantle signed baseball.
Speaker 2:Whoa From Mickey.
Speaker 3:Mantle yeah. So, all these stars that were baseball players back then from the 80s to 85.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I had a company selling baseball cards. So my son Ryan, which was around five years old, he knew more about baseball cards than I did Wow, he knew the value.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And so when people would come up and want to buy a baseball card and negotiate, I'd say you've got to talk to him. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:They'd offer 20 cents and he'd end up with 50 cents. So he became an entrepreneur right away. Wow. And he knew numbers, yeah, and to this day he knows numbers really well. But but so 1990, so from 85 to 1992, I worked for my uncle and built that company and then he ended up selling it and I left. Wow. And when I left there in 1990, that's when my brother and I reunited and he called me up one night. My mom made him call me and we talked and he said what are you going to do now that you've left my uncle? I said I don't know. I've got two grand in the bank and I don't know what I'm going to do. And he said well, why don't you do what I'm doing? I said what are you doing? He says I'm importing printed circuit boards from Korea. Wow, from Interesting. What does that mean? So we started a company. He gave me the money, wow. And he sent over a check for 25 grand.
Speaker 3:Your brother, yeah my oldest brother we didn't talk for two years prior, wow. So, he sent me a check for 25 grand and we started a company called SunTech importing printed circuit boards from Korea. Wow, and then pretty soon we realized we could buy them cheaper in China.
Speaker 2:Who is making these relationships? Are you guys like going to Korea and well, it's really interesting.
Speaker 3:My brother had the connections because, again, I've been in printed circuit boards my whole life, so I had. When I left that board shop world I had customers that still wanted to buy from me.
Speaker 3:And so I said, hey, we're going to save you 30 40 percent. Wow, and all you got to do is just send me the data, yeah, and we'll get your boards made in in korea. Wow, and so they were doing that. Yeah, and I remember our first month in business. We did like 50 grand. Wow, that's a good month. It was a good month yeah, way back then I think we started the company with 25 and the first month we do 50 and then we did 100.
Speaker 3:The following month, and then we built that business from 1992 until 2007.
Speaker 2:Wow, Before we go, I have to ask you this, because it's something that's near and dear to my heart man is tithing. When you were building your company and you were doing the business, were you tithing from the business or into church you?
Speaker 3:know what's interesting is because we really didn't start tithing until we went to church. Here's what's interesting In 1994, I get married to Susie and my ex-wife invites us to her church in Chandler Really. Yeah, her and her husband invites us to her church. Really, chandler, really yeah, her and her husband. They invited us to the church and her and and her.
Speaker 3:Her in her motive was for me to get the boy saved yeah, okay, so so I said I saw them talking one night my wife, by the way, I introduced my, my, my current wife by them going out to dinner one night. Wow, I said here's a credit card you guys go have, because I had to have them talking to each other because we had kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good, and I didn't want any animosity, I didn't want any problems.
Speaker 3:And so they became great friends. Wow, and so, anyway, we go, they invite us to their church, and then they moved to Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:Your ex-wife? Yeah, they moved to their church and then they moved to oklahoma, your ex-wife.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they moved to oklahoma and we stayed at the church.
Speaker 1:We loved it. We stayed at the church, so 1999 is when.
Speaker 3:June of 1999 is when we went, started going to church and got born again wow, I went there on a sunday and then went back wednesday night and and and got born again and then, it wasn't but a month later we got baptized. Wow, Amen. So that's when really tithing set in for us it was around 1999.
Speaker 1:Non-denominational church.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a non-denominational church, it's a Rhema church Rhema church. And our pastor he's. Is that the? One that you give out food at no, this is a different, a different church. Okay, now, the one that we, that that I go to, is on arizona avenue and queen creek nice guy and so. So anyway, we and I ended up staying there at the church and I became one of the board members. I was on the advisory board at first, and then I moved over to an actual official board member and so that became in 2009, I became an official board member, and so that became in 2009,.
Speaker 3:I became an official board member. Wow, and to this day, I still am, come on, one of the trustees of the church.
Speaker 2:Faithful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but here's what's interesting In 2007, my brother had bought an island in Alaska with a couple homes on it. Come on, yeah, and they were going to retire Again.
Speaker 1:They're 13 years older than me and he was ready to leave.
Speaker 3:But the problem was I was doing all the work and he was doing all the fishing and and that's fine, he deserved it. Okay, he started the company and I give him all the credit because I wouldn't be here today and be this successful wasn't for my brother, but um but, anyway, 2007 rolls around and, uh, he came into the office he lives in California, yeah, and he said well, man, things aren't working out.
Speaker 3:And he said why don't you just buy my shares? Yeah, I thought about it. I said okay, so I ended up buying his shares, gave him a couple million bucks and bought his shares Wow and started building the company up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Guess what happened in 2009? Huh, the economy crashed. Oh that's right, and it was the worst time of my life, oh man, 2009. It's as if somebody walked up and turned the lights off.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's how bad it was for me.
Speaker 3:It was a dark place for me but. God kept me going and we stepped up our tithing at that point because I took a 50% cut in pay To save the company. I took a 50% cut in pay and put everything on the line. When I tell you everything on the line, I put all my real estate on the line to buy my brother out. And then a disaster hit and came within an hour of filing bankruptcy oh, my goodness, that's how bad it got, was it so?
Speaker 2:and you said that in 94 or 96 things started to get hard yeah, 94 is when we got married and that's when life got really difficult because we're blending two families
Speaker 3:okay, but okay but that's when we started really building sun tech. Yeah, okay, sun tech circuits yeah and so in 2007, I bought them out, gave them the money and it was, but that's when we started really building SunTech, suntech circuits.
Speaker 2:And so in 2007,.
Speaker 3:I bought them out, gave them the money and it was about a 10-year payout. So 2007 rolls around. I finally make the last payment. But let me take you back to 2009. 2009 was a disaster and we prayed to the Lord. Lord, you got to help me here. I mean, at night, I was just in tears, crying, praying, and it turns out 2010 was a record year wow, best year in the history of the company was 2010 and then 11 beat, 10 and 12 beat oh my goodness, and we just started.
Speaker 3:Oh my, we started climbing, yeah, and around 2012 we get a knock at the door and these guys want to buy us out. Come on From Israel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Hello somebody.
Speaker 3:Somebody wanted to buy us out, but I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:The books didn't look too well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because we took a lot of money out to buy my brother. Yeah, so the books were not healthy at all. Yeah, we were upside down.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And perfect timing, I said okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2:I mean so you were ready at that time.
Speaker 3:And I had the right people running the company. At the time I had a, I had a vice president, two vice presidents, and they were running the company, yeah, and I was just, you know, being in the background getting sales, and so I let these guys. They pretty much ran the company and they're the reasons why we opened up an office in Hong Kong. We opened up an office in. China. They opened up an office in the Philippines, so our business exploded Wow.
Speaker 2:SunTech circuits yeah.
Speaker 3:Wow Exploded, and so we incorporated out of Hong Kong for tax purposes, and it really helped us a lot.
Speaker 1:Did you see a spiritual lesson in the 2009?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we did. Did you see a spiritual lesson in the 2009? Yeah, we did. And, like I said, you know we had an option of either not tithing because we took a pay cut or continue tithing at the 100% rate.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's what we did. Come on, we tithed at the 100% rate in 2009. That's why 2010 turned out to be a record year.
Speaker 1:That's right. And you kept tithing. God wanted to see what you were going to do in this situation In the hell. When everything hits bottom, are you going to? It was a test. It was a test.
Speaker 3:You know the devil wanted to win on that. One Of course. But the devil absolutely lost that.
Speaker 1:Come on, lost that battle.
Speaker 3:But it gets back to 2007. We decided to go on vacation and we go to Rocky Point and we fall in love with Rocky Point and our vision was let's buy a place here. You'd never been down there before that. I had been down. My dad had taken us several times.
Speaker 1:That was his vacation but, being in Arizona, that's where a lot of people go.
Speaker 3:My dad was a fanatic about Rocky Point. I remember camping out on Sandy Beach.
Speaker 1:Come on, there was fanatic about rocky point we were I remember camping out on sandy beach come on. Yeah, well, yeah, there was no, there was no condos. Yeah, no, you pulled your. We had our truck buried on sandy beach, blew a shaft out of it because we buried it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's one thing I remember about rocky point was crying one night because, we got late there.
Speaker 1:We got in late and he got stuck in the sand my brother had this big old, it was like a mid-70s Ford pickup. Uh-huh, it was like a tank dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're going down the beach and he wants to shoot up the hill to get up to the top of the beach and just buried it Right and he's like just flooring it and you hear this pop Broke the transfer case, right. Oh my gosh, we had this Mexican friend who had a Jeep with a 350 in it and had a Chevy 350. My brother was a Ford guy. He totally messed him up that day.
Speaker 1:This guy in a Jeep, pulled him right out of the sand, bro, just up the hill just nice and slow. And my brother got out. He was so mad that a Chevy motor in a Jeep had to pull its port truck out of the sand.
Speaker 3:You know, I just love that because that's what I did was pulling people out of the snow. Here's another story.
Speaker 2:I'm having trauma right now because I think I was on the mission trip. Where I was down there in Mexico, our van got stuck. I had to dig out of a van and they had this all-wheel drive little thing pull us out. But it's crazy over there.
Speaker 3:Well, in 2007, we buy the place and we move in. We actually bought it in 05 and took them two years to build it.
Speaker 2:Down there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's called Las Palomas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they got a place in you know that big tower.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They own a place in there. Oh nice, yeah, we're on the 15th floor of Las Las.
Speaker 3:Palomas. So we bought that in 05, moved in in 07. And our plan was to just retire and take it easy on the beach.
Speaker 3:And we did for two years. And then one of my wife's coworkers said hey, you guys are going down to Rocky Point this weekend. Can you take some clothes to an orphanage for us? And they gave us a couple of bags of clothes and we had been, we'd been hurt up. We heard about this orphanage back in 07, but we didn't know how to get there. So we decided to visit the orphanage and take them to close and we get there one night. We got there late and the kids were sitting at these tables and they had a little bun with a little bit of butter on it and a glass of milk. And my wife is looking around like where's the meat? Where's?
Speaker 1:the vegetables.
Speaker 3:Where's the food? And the director said we work on donations and we didn't get much donations, wow. So we went to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we started promoting it on Facebook. Come on, and the very next week, a friend of mine, steve Sweeney, and I took a ride back to Rocky Point with 1,000 pounds of food. Come on 1,000 pounds of food. Come on, a thousand pounds of food right to that orphanage. And that was so exciting because to get all other churches involved and get people involved, they would text us and say, hey, we just left the orphanage. We bought them $500 worth of food. And then another guy would text us I bought them a brand new stove.
Speaker 3:Another church bought them tires for their van. Another one gave them a bus.
Speaker 2:I mean it was just the body of Christ in action.
Speaker 3:It just started exploding with help, and so that really got us going with our ministry. Come on, man.
Speaker 3:We knew something was going to happen. And then we went down there one day and a friend of ours invited us to an outdoor church and I'll never forget this. This was in like 2012. It could have been 20 yeah, about 2012. We go to this outdoor church and they're preaching the word, and I don't even remember the pastor there that day. All I remember is cutting oranges. That was my job was to cut oranges in quarters because after service they would give the people something to eat, and so we're cutting these oranges. And then I left, we left, that's all we did. We cut oranges and left, didn't you know?
Speaker 3:it's all in spanish, we don't speak spanish, so I didn't, didn't know it, but we left and then we go to a church right there in rocky point called family of god and we're sitting in church there and they mentioned that pastor nacho was thrown in prison, wow. And we, and she said that's the's the guy that was preaching. That day we cut oranges. Yeah, I said that's them, he goes, yeah. And so we went to lunch after church and she said let's go to the prison, see if we can go in there. And somebody at the church took us in. Wow. So we go in there and it just turns out it's his birthday. Wow, he just turns out it's his birthday. Wow, he's got his family there. He's got three little kids. His wife was there and they were having outdoor service inside the church. Wow, inside the church they're playing music, they got guitars, they got amplifiers and the spirit was so strong that suzy and I were like, wow, we don't even.
Speaker 3:We don't even feel this in other churches we travel around the country, when suzy and I go to church around different places in the country, we didn't feel that spirit. We feel it at our church.
Speaker 1:I can feel it in this church, but we felt it hugely at that prison.
Speaker 3:So we left there and decided to go buy some toilet paper, because we found out they don't have toilet paper. So we went to Sam's Club. They've got a Sam's Club in Rocky Point. We go there. We bought a couple hundred rolls of toilet paper, brought it back, gave it to them and the next thing, one thing led to another. Now Nacho got in prison for four and a half years for something that was never happened. Yeah, but in Rocky Point and in Mexico I could say you stole $100. It's up to. And so they put him in prison.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you're guilty until proven innocent. You're guilty until you can prove you're innocent.
Speaker 3:So when we met his family. We fell in love with his family and we supported them. We helped them for four and a half years. Come on. And during that period during that time that Nacho was in there, we had an opportunity to when he was getting out we had an opportunity to buy a tortilla machine to make tortillas.
Speaker 3:And my vision was we'll buy it, we'll haul it down to Rocky Point and we'll give it to Nacho and he could start a business making tortillas. That was my vision Because he didn't have a business getting out of prison. So we get to Rocky Point with this thing on a trailer and I get ready to give it to him and he said it won't work. I said why? He said you've got to have 220 volts.
Speaker 1:We don't have 220.
Speaker 3:At our house we only have 110. Now what do I do? I've got this machine. I can't take it back to Arizona, so I called up a pastor that was in the prison, antonio, and he got his pastorial. He wasn't a pastor when he went in, but here's a guy that antonio yeah, oh my god, yeah, so antonio. I got to meet him while I was, while nacho was getting out. I got, I built a relationship with antonio and he got sentenced to 54 years.
Speaker 2:54 years in prison.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pastor tony, yeah so, um, and I'll tell you what happened with him. But, uh, I called him up, I said and he had a cell phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I said hey, which? I bought him one. I bought him a cell phone. The warden let me buy him a cell phone.
Speaker 2:Mexican prison's a little different than American prison people. I called him up, I said hey, I got this tortilla machine.
Speaker 3:Why don't you talk to the warden and see if he'll let me bring it over? And he called me, me right back. He said, yeah, bring it over. Yeah. So we backed up the trailer, they opened up the big gates at the prison, we hauled it in there and it wasn't. But maybe two weeks later they're making tortillas. Wow. And I'm thinking okay, they're gonna make a couple hundred a day. This was five years ago. Yeah, they're making eight to ten thousand per day now. Oh so they've taken the money and they've made. They bought new equipment yeah, so now they're pretty much automated.
Speaker 3:They've got automation inside that prison. So there's now 16 employees at the prison making tortillas and they've got Antonio's wife. When he was in prison he got out.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you how we got him out. But his wife was the one doing all the book work and making all the deliveries, so she would go to the prison twice a day, morning and afternoon, pick up tortillas and go deliver them. They've. She would go to prison twice a day, morning and afternoon, pick up tortillas and go deliver them. Wow, they got 70 locations they delivered to Wow.
Speaker 3:So business started exploding, yeah, yeah. So one day Antonio called me up. He said hey, I had this. Lord told me to build a church. And I said what do you mean? He goes. Yeah, lord told me to build a church. Yeah, I said with what he goes, I don't know. I said where are you going to get the money to build a church? He goes, lord will bring it in Come on Pastor Tony.
Speaker 3:I said, well, if the Lord is in it, then it's going to happen. Yeah, and so we got involved and he got all these pastors in Rocky Point to come to the prison and he served them lunch Wow. And he laid out tables and chairs and within four months the church was built Wow, From start to finish. Wow, In Mexico you could imagine calling somebody and saying can you bring me a pick and ax because I've got to dig some trenches? And it took him four months from start to finish. It took him four months to build that church. And now you go to that church. It was built four and a half years ago.
Speaker 2:It's air conditioned, it's beautiful wow that's where I, that's where he took me, that's where I took oh my god, that's where I took rowdy to that church and, uh, he felt the spirit man I mean, I got I
Speaker 3:got pictures of this guy. He's balling like a baby and it's because every time we go in there, it's emotional?
Speaker 3:yeah, because we're in there for two to three hours, yeah, and last two weekends ago was our trip 112. Wow, so we've made 112 trips just since COVID. Yeah, and what's interesting about COVID is at the peak of COVID, in March of 2020, we had all this food. I started volunteering at Midwest Food Bank in March of 2020. And I became a truck driver and a forklift operator, and so for that, they would give us food enough food to take it down the Rocky Point, come on so we would go.
Speaker 3:I'd go to Midwest with a Prius, yeah, and I would fill it to the max with food.
Speaker 2:All the donations, yeah.
Speaker 3:And we'd run it down the Rocky Point. Wow, and when they closed the border on us, we had to sneak it in. Okay, we were food smugglers, yeah, okay, we had to sneak the food in and we did about four different trips. Yeah, and that was at the height of COVID, yeah, so from March to about August we were smuggling food into Rocky. Point Wow Because remember during that period period people were getting paid in the united states okay, and but nobody's getting paid in mexico.
Speaker 1:They lot.
Speaker 3:They live on on tourism tourism with with arizona and canada. And so they were starving, literally starving, and so we started supporting the family of god. We were giving them peanut butter and jelly, and they were making seven to 800 sandwiches a day.
Speaker 2:Wow, that was the outside church with Pastor Nacho.
Speaker 3:No, that one. We only went to that once.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:But a family of God is. It's a nice, it's a, it's a beautiful church down there. And here's what's really neat is that when I met Antonio, he had been in there two years and I sat him down one day and I said tell me what happened, man? And he told me. He said, tudor, I was in Rocky Point.
Speaker 3:They lived at the border at Lukeville right on the other side in Mexico and he said one morning his wife called him up. He said I had left early in the morning to go to Rocky Point and get my car fixed and while I was gone the police showed up and told my wife that I murdered somebody last night. So he came back to the little town there at Sonoyta and went to the police station and said hey guys, you got the wrong guy. I don't know what you're talking about. And they tortured him for 30 days Wow, Literally tortured him. Wow, and told him that we're going to kill you and we're going to put your wife in prison for the rest of her life unless you sign a confession note. Wow, he had no choice. So he signed it. Wow, so they sent some 54 years.
Speaker 2:So last last summer when I, when I seen him and I connected with him, he said that for the first it was like three weeks I think they were just on him, just hitting, torturing him, and tell us, tell, admit it, admit it. He's like no, no, that last week, once they started talking about his wife and his kids and his family, he's like dude, dude, all right, man, all right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he was willing to die in that jail. He was willing to just take, take it.
Speaker 1:For his family?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so his family would, would I mean he had two girls at the time, and so so I started.
Speaker 1:Different culture man.
Speaker 3:With Jesus' help. It took me nine years, wow, and hired four different lawyers and we finally got him out. Come on, a year ago, this past September, come on. So he got out in 2023, september of 2023. And just two weeks ago, all his whole case has been dropped. Now, wow, and and so you know what expungement means we expunge your file.
Speaker 3:That's what they did, so now he has no record come on, and so we're working on getting a visa so he can come to arizona and give his testimony wow, at our church, because our church really stepped up yeah, to help him come on.
Speaker 3:And so he's got his own church now in rocky point dude, help him. And so he's got his own church now in Rocky Point Dude. Yeah, pastor Antonio, he's got his own church. And, pastor Nacho, when he told me he was going to build a church, he also got out and said he was going to build a church. And I said you don't have any money, the tortilla machine is never going to work for you, so what are you going to do? He said well, I got 20 pesos. And, honest to God, he told me he got 20 pesos. And I said you're going to start a church with 20 pesos. That's back then. That wasn't even a dollar, okay. And he said yeah, I'm going to start a church and I need 9,000 or $8,000. That's what I'm praying for. Lord's going to bring me $8,000. I said you know, okay, you know I kind of rolled my eyes. Well, somebody handed him a Bible a few months later with $8,000 in it, wow, and it got his church started.
Speaker 2:That's our God man.
Speaker 3:Now I mean, when I went there to look at the building. I went there with Pastor Mike from Bethel Church. The trash was three feet high it was literally three feet high and he cleaned it out. And now you go into that church. It's gorgeous, wow, it is beautiful. So Pastor Nacho, he's one of the leaders there in Rocky Point. Now with his ministry he's traveling all over.
Speaker 1:Mexico. God does a mighty work in men when they're in prison. Brother. Oh my gosh when you're separated from the cares and the troubles of the world. God can literally just have his way with you.
Speaker 3:It's a beautiful thing, it really is. And if you look, he says if you look back now, the four and a half years he spent in prison, if you ask Nacho, he'll tell you it was the best four and a half years of his life. Yeah, because that's when God really worked on his heart. Yeah, and obviously, if he wasn't in prison, I wouldn't have met him. Yeah, okay, and I keep teasing him about it. I said you know, lord put you in prison for a reason. Yeah, you know, and and I really believe that that that's what happened to him by going to prison, because now these guys are getting out of prison. By the way, the day we walked in in 2014, there was 500, over 500 inmates. That prison's only designed for 150. So there was 10 to 15 guys per cell.
Speaker 1:It's only supposed to be two. They got 70 cells. There's only be two guys per cell.
Speaker 3:And now there's 14 to 15 guys in a cell and a lot of fighting going on, you can imagine, you know, you put them in a little cage, they're going to fight.
Speaker 1:And so.
Speaker 3:So we just went back a couple weeks ago and it's down to 180. Wow, it got down to 150 at one point, wow, and so it's at 180 right now. But when you go to this prison, you've got to visualize this. You go to this prison, the guys are all waiting for us. Yeah, okay, okay. We bring in food, a lot of food. Yeah, we bring in pizzas. We bring in hot dogs that two weeks ago we had a hot dog. I'd like to go with you one time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would you will bud, you will, you will and and that's it.
Speaker 3:That's a promise okay, because it's life-changing and you go in there and we serve pizza, we served hot dogs, we sometimes bring them all kinds of goodies and everybody leaves there what we call a goodie bag. Yeah, okay, and then that goodie bag, there's a lot of things in that bag. It's about a 10 pound bag, yeah, and there could be chocolate in there. There could be a roll of toilet paper there could be socks oh yeah, and so we bring in clothes, a lot of clothes, come on it's almost.
Speaker 2:When I was there they had their. The whole wall on the left side was filled with all these bags and then all over the altar was shoes and clothes and underwears and socks and shirts, towels, blankets.
Speaker 3:Everything, man, when you walk into that prison, it's what you have on your back. Yeah, that's it. They don't give you clothing, they don't give you bedding, they don't give you no, no. But now you get an orange shirt and tacky pants. Tacky pants Come on and so we bring in thanks to a lady named Paula. I called her Paula W and Paula brings every week. She'll bring us orange shirts and tacky pants Every week.
Speaker 2:She goes to Goodwill, and that's what she does. That's what she does, that's her ministry. That's her ministry.
Speaker 3:And when I tell you how much. There's so much clothes and so much shirt at the end of our little stay there. There may be 20, 30 shirts left over. We give them to the warden, so when inmates come in they've got some clothes.
Speaker 1:Can I tell you a story real quick? Yeah, me and Raddy used to do food ministry. We had a count at Midwest too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I took my truck one time, filled it up and I was going to Apache Junction where all the trailer parks were where all the drugs were, and I were, and I would just drive down the roads and see if somebody was outside, and if they were I would stop and I, hey, you need anything, man, I got cereal, all these different things. Right, I pull up to this house, this lady has probably two or three kids in the yard and I'm like, hey, you guys need anything, I got. You know, I got candy bars, I got cereal. They're like, yeah, man, come on buddy.
Speaker 1:I have toilet paper. We're in Arizona, man, and I bring this roll of toilet paper up and this little girl oh my god, toilet paper. And I was like what the hell? I wasn't excited about the chocolate bar, she wasn't excited about the cereal. This little girl right here in town, man was more excited about toilet paper, dude, and I was like to me I got back in the truck and I look at the guys and I was like what the hell man, that little girl was excited about toilet paper.
Speaker 1:I'm like what are they? What are they using?
Speaker 2:right napkins. What were they using that?
Speaker 3:this little girl saw toilet paper, got excited well, that's how these inmates are walking around with holes in their shirt. They're wondering why they got a hole in their shirt and it's cut perfectly. Yeah, because they were using it. It's cut perfectly. And I asked Antonio one day why is their shirts all cut up? He said they're cutting their shirt for toilet paper. And that's the day we went and bought all this roll. But we don't go to this prison now we get the jumbo rolls. Yeah, from midwest, come on, we're talking. You know the 10 pound rolls, yeah, you know the big jumbo rolls. So when we take those in, they go nuts over there, so we have a game.
Speaker 3:We play a game when we go there, yeah, and we bought these numbers, one through a hundred. Yeah, so I hand them out randomly. Everybody gets a number. Okay, whatever number. And then I'll take the other stack of numbers which are numbered 1 through 100, and I'll pull out number 45 and I'll hold it up, and here comes number 45, and he gets to pick whatever he wants. There's shoes, there's whatever that toilet paper goes first.
Speaker 3:Those big jumbo rolls, because they'll last him three or four months, and so it's so rewarding because we take for granted a toothbrush a toothpaste and a roller toilet, but we take it for granted, I miss doing that kind of ministry man. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean it was, I'm not going to lie, it was a lot of work.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work it is.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of work, but to see the families that we impacted and just, we had families that would go to weekly. Weekly you know what I mean, and bring them food, and just to see.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll tell you a quick little story. We had a guy came to our church and I know him very well, he's traveling all over the world and Kevin Zadie Kevin Zadie and Kevin was speaking at our church and for some reason, the Lord said give him a million dollars. And my feeling was that the Lord wanted me to give him a million dollars so he could donate it back to our ministry. Wow, okay, that's what I was thinking. I told Kevin, I'm going to give you a million bucks, but just don't try cashing this check.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm just believing that our ministry is going to get a million dollars, but I wasn't specific enough I to get a hundred a million dollars, but I wasn't specific enough. I didn't say a million dollars in cash. Okay, I didn't say that. I think if I'd have said that, maybe a million dollars in cash would have come back. So here's what's really cool about this whole thing.
Speaker 3:Since I gave him that check in 2019, that's when the food bank opened up for us at Midwest- right after that and during COVID I don't know if you remember this, but there was a campaign going on in America called Farmers to Family. And they were these 28 pound boxes of different food and we got awarded, so I'm bringing home food to our garage. Okay, Now again, this is March of 2020. I'm filling up my garage with food and then I'm advertising on Facebook. Come to our house for food Saturday morning, and the first Saturday I opened up the garage door, there was 200 people there.
Speaker 1:Holy crap, 200 people.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah 200 people waiting for food. And so we set up an assembly line, and we just started giving out food. And then, it got to a point where where, hey, don't get out of your car, just just get in line. Yeah, and we did this for 18 months. Wow, long car lines, bro, and cars would come and they'd load them up.
Speaker 2:Wow, over 100 cars every wednesday. Neighbors ever get mad at you and oh yeah, his neighbors got pissed no, only one really the other neighbors were all getting food.
Speaker 3:yeah, and they were helping. Yeah, you know. You know we have neighbors that you say hi to, yeah, and I have neighbors I say hi to yeah. These neighbors now we're like best of friends.
Speaker 1:Come on, buddy, because it united the block. Yeah, it united us.
Speaker 3:That's right, and so we started giving out food, and we did that for 18 months, and then one neighbor complained to HOA. One neighbor and that next week we got three letters one from HOA, one from the county health department and one from the zoning.
Speaker 2:Commissioner, you're not allowed to be doing this. You are done If you do one more car out of your house we're going to put you in jail.
Speaker 3:Dang devil, so the word got out and the next Wednesday we get a church in. Chandler. Thank God, bill Berry from RSM. He found a church, or he knew the pastor and said hey, can these guys use your parking lot? Wow, so that was in a. This'll be our.
Speaker 1:I think that's a pastor Bill Billy was talking about. Yeah, I think so From a restoration restoration, that's it.
Speaker 3:Resurrection street ministry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got a. We got a brother. That's been one of their recovery homes, right now, oh yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I see him at the Circle K by my work all the time, and every time I see him I try to remember their name and I'm like call them by name, you know what I mean. And they're like oh, you know us.
Speaker 3:I'm like come on, man Well it opened up an opportunity because we got a call. I was cleaning up one night and number but she goes. Is this tutor melville? I said yeah, she goes. Uh, this is uh deborah with the food and drug administration, the fda. Yeah, and my heart dropped like oh, no. I said uh, did I do something wrong? And she goes. Oh, no, no, no, she goes. I understand you're giving food out at your garage, at your house. I said yeah, quite a bit of it. She goes to. How much more can you handle? Oh, wow. And I said you have food, she goes. We got 7 million pounds, wow. And we got 45 days to get rid of it all. Wow, how many semis can you handle?
Speaker 2:And I said 7 million pounds, 7 million pounds. And I said to her how many pallets is that?
Speaker 3:Well, I calculated it's 163 semis.
Speaker 2:Holy.
Speaker 3:God Okay. So I holy god okay. So she said well, how many can we send you? And I said I could probably do eight. Okay, now in my brain eight per week yeah, okay. No, she didn't read it that way. She thought it was eight per day oh my goodness. I called her up the next day and I said deborah, when I said eight semis, what did that mean to you? She goes well, eight of eight per day, right? I said oh, deborah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I can do eight per week, so I so anyway long story short.
Speaker 3:Uh, midwest food bank pulled some strings and we're able to have the trucks delivered. Come on to midwest food bank and then and then we had trucks that called deborah back I said, can you deliver to prescott? She goes yeah, so they delivered down to prescott every, every saturday. They got a semi truck and then another vet called me and he said hey, we've got an opportunity here in Laughlin, nevada, can they deliver some semis here? And so we opened up that door and they were delivering them down.
Speaker 3:So, we ended up probably doing about 3 million of the 7 million pounds through Midwest Food Bank and it was a great time because these boxes were great, you could a car could pull up and you could load them up in seconds and they'd be out and a lot of it went down to Casa Grande.
Speaker 1:A lot of it went down to Guadalupe.
Speaker 3:A lot of it went down to some lakes, and so that ministry has exploded and we're still doing it Every. Wednesday we help about.
Speaker 1:I would say at least with your little box truck. Yeah, yeah, I'm driving that box truck.
Speaker 2:I helped you with that one day and that bout killed me. It was getting up and down that truck.
Speaker 3:You know you, you, you can't be pulling two 300 pounds up there, it's a lot of it's a lot of work, but but. But I found that this was my calling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on, buddy, this was my calling. It's a beautiful work man, people with food.
Speaker 1:I said before I'll say again I miss doing that, bro. Just to see the appreciation on people's faces, you know what I mean Knowing that someone cares enough to help.
Speaker 3:It's moving, bro. After we're done here, I'll give you an address. And if you ever want to show up on a Wednesday, I'm there at 4 o'clock and from 4 to 6 we're handing out food.
Speaker 1:Amen, and it's right. Here in Chandler, it's not my season for that. Right now, I work 6 days a week. Oh yeah, my season's coming, though I'm not looking for you to help or anything but just to see all these faces that need food, that's what's rewarding For me.
Speaker 1:I love the part of just driving through neighborhoods. Yeah, I mean, I would spend hours just driving through neighborhoods passing out me and roddy pass out flyers. We'd go to apartment complexes. Man, see somebody outside. Hey, if you know anybody here, give them this, give them this flyer, man, we'll come bring him food and I bet you it was rough places too.
Speaker 3:oh, oh yeah, those are the places we were looking for man.
Speaker 1:Those are the places there's a place right here on Ellsworth and Broadway and it's trailer parks, mobile homes, drug-infested area, and those were the areas that we wanted to go hit. We weren't going into like nice places. We knew we wanted to go to places that we knew needed that help you know, what I mean and God needed that help. Yeah, I mean. And, um god, just so many families, husband and wife, kids, you know, I mean that you see that are needing help and it's like, yeah, we're helping this lady right now.
Speaker 1:She got triplets three little girls, triplets and her husband.
Speaker 3:Her husband left him when she got pregnant. Wow, he left. So we've been helping them every week. Come on so we've, got about after we're done on wednesday. My wife helps seven families, yeah, and they come to our house Wednesday evening and pick up food. Come on, and honestly, some of these people couldn't survive. Yeah, I mean, look at the cost of food now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean it's through the roof.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have to ask you this yes, if, because we, because we've got listeners, man and people in our life are sowers, if somebody listens to this and they want to sow a seed into your ministry, can you share a website or how can they sow some?
Speaker 3:All you have to do is go to Faith Family Church. Faith Family Church, it's called Hope for Life.
Speaker 1:That's our ministry.
Speaker 3:And we're under the umbrella of Faith Family Church, so we're under their umbrella. So any funds that come in it, that's our ministry and we're under the umbrella of Faith Family Church, so we're under their umbrella. So any funds that come in it goes to our ministry and our church, faith Family. They support our ministry every time we go down to Rocky Point. And if it wasn't for Faith Family Church, if it wasn't for Bill at RS Infant, if it wasn't for the people over at midwest food bank, we couldn't do this it's too expensive yeah and at some.
Speaker 3:At one point it was costing us a couple grand just to go to rocky point, because that's what we were taking down there wow but now we can go down to rocky point with all this excess food and just spend money on gas amen we pay the guys at the border 20 30 dollars to get these cars through and people wonder how we do that.
Speaker 3:It's all God when you're taking 1,000 pounds of food and two vehicles into Rocky Point and they're charging you $50, it's like for us that's free, because normally they want to tax the crap out of you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it has opened up some opportunity because I'm able to meet people that do want to help us. And yeah, faith, family, Church, hope for life, come on.
Speaker 1:That you know. $10, $5, doesn't matter. Anything helps people, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 3:You know we spend a couple hundred bucks just in gas going there and back. It doesn't take much. You know we spend a couple hundred bucks just in gas going there and back. But, like I said, we do make some money on our condo, but all that goes back into the ministry. Come on, yeah, my wife feels good about it. I don't touch any of the money, amen.
Speaker 1:But she's the one that helps us with our ministry work, because it does take money. It sure does. I've been down to Rocky Point once with our church and it was an experience, bro. I've been down there as a kid. You know what I mean, yeah, going down there to party and stuff like that. And to go down there this way was totally different. And to drive by the places that I used to not pay attention to and realize, wow, you know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was a beautiful experience, bro it really is pastor sable and pastor felipe, just yeah, yeah is pastor nacho in the group that we got pastor tony in yeah yeah, he's.
Speaker 2:He's involved with how we go down there in june with bethel. Yes, pastor nacho comes and he's yeah, okay, yeah okay.
Speaker 3:Pastor nacho is one of the leaders with that, with bethel, come on. Okay, he's the one last year that really organized a lot of it.
Speaker 1:I was down there for the first one that they did at the big arena with Bethel Right and they gave away the cars.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was the time.
Speaker 3:I went, that was at the convention center. Yeah, that was the time I went down there. Yeah, las Palomas Convention Center. And to see that place packed it was packed, I was like, yeah, now we're at a baseball stadium bro. Yeah, yeah, this next one next month, we're going to drive down there in november down to hermeseo yeah have you ever been to hermeseo? Okay, so that's baja under california right yeah, it's uh, hermeseo, it's just straight south in mexico okay but uh, it's a six hour drive from rocky point wow but it's only a five hours from phoenix through nogales oh wow, it's much quicker.
Speaker 3:It would take us 12 hours yeah to get there from phoenix, because you got to go five hours from four or five hours to rocky point from here and then another six hours, so it could be a 10 hour drive yeah so we're going to cut it in half by going straight there come on and what's funny is that we can't even stay at our own condo because it's rented that week, not rented, but we loan it out. People that want to support our ministry. We loan it out. Come on.
Speaker 3:Amen, and they give us a donation to our ministry, amen and that's how we're able to use these funds to help our ministry and feed people. But yeah, we take a lot of food down there Come on. That Prius. It's a sight to see, because what we do is we pack it and then we roll down the back windows and then we stuff food in it, stuffed animals and everything. When I say stuff, you can't get another Snickers bar in there.
Speaker 2:They literally sit their seats all the way up, bro, and they're just packed.
Speaker 1:I remember walking through the neighborhood because we would go through the neighborhood and hand out flyers and I remember seeing like this really nice house, followed by this house that was in ruins, another house that was in ruins, a house that was in the process of being built, and I asked one of the locals, like why is this house nice and this one? You know what I mean? Well, they have people that go to America and work and send money back. These people don't, they're stuck here. You know what I mean? Yeah, and just to see the vast difference in housing there, just because someone comes here and works and doesn't or doesn't, was just mind-boggling. Yeah, but you clearly had this nice house Right Followed next to this shack.
Speaker 2:Shack.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and it's like and I remember seeing this it looked like maybe a business that was getting ready to be built. All the concrete was laid but never finished and I'm like what happened? They ran out of money.
Speaker 3:Ran out of money and I was like dang dude, you know what I mean. Yeah, no, that's what does.
Speaker 1:Yeah and and then you drive, then you drive a little bit away and here's the tourists. Yeah, millions of dollars in hotels and on the beach and oh yeah 10 minute drive away. It's poverty and it's like dirt floors yeah, we're missing something here, people man, yeah, well, we can spend millions of dollars to build these hotels so we can go visit, but the people that live there are living in poverty and shacks.
Speaker 3:Well, they're the good news, and I and I tell people this in rocky point. Learn two languages. Learn English. They know Spanish. I tell all these kids learn English, Because if you learn English in Rocky Point, you'll always have a job. You'll always have a job. That's right. I remember telling this one kid if you learn English, I'll give you two months. You learn English, in two months I'll give you $100. Wow.
Speaker 1:And he did it. Wow, he did it. He came up to me and started speaking english. I went oh my goodness, I couldn't pull that hundred dollars out fast enough. Yeah, yeah, I remember the lady that walked us around.
Speaker 1:She was one of our guides that was walking us through the neighborhood. It was a neighborhood that she lived in and we went by her house and her little kids came running out. No doors, you know, I mean, had fans blowing and I was like dang man, you know, I mean, and I heard god tell me give her 20 bucks. You know, I mean, and uh, so we get back to the thing and I didn't want to be, I didn't want to be weird about it. So I'm asking one of us, you know, come with me to. You know, god told me to give this lady 20 bucks. I want to give her 20 bucks and, um, just to see her look on her face you know what I mean I was just like I can't take that. I'm like no, god told me to give you. You need to take this. You know what I mean, but to see the appreciation on her face, it's just like you know what I mean To them. That's probably a lot of money. You know what I mean, and just yeah.
Speaker 3:But you know what I mean. I know there's a few guys in prison that I always help out. Yeah, you know they got a heart. Yeah, and they're there to keep peace. And I tell the guys every time I go down there listen, we don't have to come in this prison. Yeah, we come. This place is calm yeah but the first time we get a call from the warden it says you guys are all getting out of control.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I said this call comes to a stop yeah and I said it's really up to you, yeah, and I and I and I tell them straight up yeah, you see, somebody fighting it's, it's screwing up the whole for everybody, everybody. One person fighting can cause problems for everybody, and so so far we've only had a couple wardens that have given us a hard time. Yeah, and but this new warden that we've got right now we've gone through seven wardens over the years this new warden, he's a doll, he's a guy, he'll let us do whatever we want Wow, whatever we want to do whatever we want to bring in.
Speaker 3:He is really. We just bought some paint for their prison Come on. Yeah, hope for life. And with the help of other people we brought in probably 40, 50 yards of cement. Wow. So that whole place is now all cemented. Come on when before it was all sand. So as soon as the wind would blow all that sand. Now you go out in the courtyard. It's all concreted.
Speaker 1:The whole courtyard is concreted.
Speaker 3:It's really interesting what has happened there. But these guys are all fixing up the place. You walk in there, it's clean. You go into prison. Right after we're done in there they're mopping the floor. I remember one time I walked in there and I saw a guy with some cleaner and he was cleaning the pews. And Tony says I want to tell you about that guy. I said, yeah, what's the deal with him? He goes, he's a cartel guy and he found Jesus in this prison and it changed his life and now he's no longer a cartel guy, he's part of the church. Now, wow, dude, that he's part of the church. Yeah, wow, dude, that's the kind of things this church and a person can do yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Take a cartel guy and convert him into a born-again Christian. Yeah, that's the only way, by the way, you can get out of a cartel family. Yeah, to be born again. You've got to be born again. Wow, you've got to say I'm accepting Jesus. Yeah, and they know, and they notice, they, you know, they're not going to get an interrupt, come on. But you're not going to leave with anything either. Yeah, they'll take everything from you. Yeah, your house, your car.
Speaker 1:That's where I met God, brother, but they'll give you your life. That's where I met God. Was in prison.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was at a crossroad man Either choose to go into the life 100% or find something else. And I was just like I just got to be something else, dude. And wow, I wasn't looking for Jesus, I was just looking for something outside of myself. And went through a couple avenues and the devil made a mistake man, it got a Bible in my hand, oh gosh. And yeah, I'm like I'm just going to read this, you know what I mean. And just started reading bro. And just started reading bro, and just started getting literature in, started doing everything I could just to learn more. You know what I mean? Met his mom and just they were going to church and I'm like, oh, I'm getting out and going to church, you know what I mean, and just yeah.
Speaker 2:My mom was in jail. He was in prison. They were pen pals, yeah.
Speaker 3:No kidding, if you're in prison and she's in, how did you, so my celly was right in her celly. Oh.
Speaker 1:And so we'd have to piggyback letters, right? Like I would send a letter to her mom, her mom would put it in another envelope and send it to her, got it? So we were just piggybacking letters, and it was just to kill time.
Speaker 1:Right we weren't looking to get together or nothing. You know what I mean and she, and you know what I mean. And, um, she did her year. I still had another year to do. She got out, her sister sent in a visitation letter so I could call, start talking to her on the phone and, uh, just communication. Man, when I got out we met up and been together ever since.
Speaker 2:Wow, what year they've been through crazy well we started writing in 1996 96 I got out in 98.
Speaker 1:We've been together ever since that's so awesome. It hasn't been easy. We both came out of addiction. We both went back into addiction. Together His story a little bit.
Speaker 2:Just kind of drug him in with us. You didn't drug me in, you didn't make me do it, I chose to do it, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was funny because I was talking to somebody the other day and I was trying to figure out how I got introduced to Jesus. You know what I mean, and I think through conversations with his mom she was telling me about how she went to church and God and all this other stuff, because I was more into, like they called it, asatru which is the Nordic gods, odin Valhalla Thor.
Speaker 1:I was reading ruins, studying, you know that kind of that kind of religion, and she started talking about God. So I started kind of moving that way because of her, because I she was beautiful bro and I'm like I'm marrying this lady, you know, I mean, yeah, and just kind of fell that way, bro, and just wow, haven't looked back, man, man.
Speaker 3:That's so awesome.
Speaker 1:It's been a journey, bro. I've wrestled with God probably for the first 10 years. You know what I mean just because I didn't grow up in church, bro. My dad I asked my dad about Jesus one day and he's like the joy bus comes by every Sunday to catch a ride. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That kind of.
Speaker 1:And so just I tell people, we grew up heathens, drinking, cussing, smoking, just anything but Jesus. You know what I mean. And so this whole new lifestyle was different. You know what I mean. And I'm like, ok, god, if you're real, I'm going to wrestle with you. You're going to have to prove to me, you know what I mean. Yeah, and he did, man and a little old church that they were going to you know what, and started worshiping and singing and started bawling. And I'm fresh out of prison, I'm like I'm not a bawler. Why am I crying?
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And his sister, that's the Holy Spirit, and I was like okay, god, I'm going to quit doubting that you're real, but we still got a lot of work to do here, dude, because I need to understand what's going on. And it's just been a journey, bro. Part is is we talk about how he's a heart surgeon and man the work that he did on my heart, bro, was just coming from prison.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you know anything about prisons here in arizona, but they're very segregated, so you kind of fall into that line you know what I mean yep, and now, geez, you know, it's just, I'm a different person, bro. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't if.
Speaker 1:I'm a different person, bro. Yeah, you know what I mean. I don't, if you're a good person, I don't care who you are. I mean, even if you're a bad person, I still try to show you love. You know what I mean. But it's just that love aspect is, I told somebody the other day, the first thing that ever come off the Bible to me was first John four, I want to say four, six, but it says God is love. And that was the first thing that came up off the pages and just illuminated itself to me and I was like so if you're love, I'm not, what do you want to do with me? Because I'm able, I'm hangry, I'm mad, these different things. I'm definitely not love, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, but he definitely took the time to transform me into that love you know I mean, right now, I just do everything I can to love people right where they're at, no matter who they are.
Speaker 3:You know, I mean well, it's so important to not only love people but forgive people yeah you know that's something that's good and if you, if you forgive, I mean it tells you in a bible forgive yeah yeah, forgive and forget, right, and I never there was a story of a lady that came to. I'm a toast master, by the way. I don't know if you know what that is. But toast master. You just learn how to speak in public, yeah, and you learn this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah and oh I would do great at that, you would you would get on the microphone in the prison. Oh lord, we left that place and he's like dude, I brought a lot of people down here, bro. I've never felt the spirit in that place like that day with you, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh jesus but this girl came in and gave a speech about forgiveness and she, she found a study. She had cancer, yeah, and she found a study with 2,000 patients and they did a study and they asked all these patients about do you hold any? Animosity against anybody. Did somebody do you wrong? Did you forgive them? And all of these 90s? It was in the 90s, like 95% of the people held animosity.
Speaker 1:They couldn't forgive Whether it was a parent, whether it was in the 90s, like 95% of the people held animosity. They couldn't forgive Whether it was a parent, whether it was a sibling whether it was a friend that did them wrong.
Speaker 3:they couldn't forgive them, and that's why cancer can set in because it attacks your immune system. When you don't forgive your body, is that's where diseases start setting in.
Speaker 1:that's where diseases start setting in.
Speaker 3:So the people that are listening to this if you have an animosity towards anybody, just forgive them. Call them up and say listen. I just want to let you know I forgive you, whether it's their fault or your fault it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:It could be their fault, okay that this all started, but just forgive them anyway, and you'll find that by doing that it'll cleanse your body. It sets you free. You get set free.
Speaker 1:It'll cleanse your body when I was in prison I was doing these books by Edwin Lewis Cole called the Maximized Manhood books. There's like 13 books in this series and then one of the books talks about what was it courage or something like that. And in this book it talks about bearing the burden of sins that were committed against you Not the sins that you committed, but the sins that were committed against you and how we carry these animosity. This, you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean Trauma, the hurt.
Speaker 1:And most of the time that person don't even realize that they did that to you, right, and they're living their life free, full of any connection to it.
Speaker 2:But you're over here just stalled. It's killing you.
Speaker 1:And so in that moment you got to remember I was a heroin addict, meth addict, all these different things. And I'm in prison, right, and I'm reading these books and it talks about. If you play in the back of your like, do a playback in your life, you'll find the point where trauma took place, why your life is this way. So I went back and it was the moment that I found out my dad was cheating on my mom. That was the day I started smoking weed, started getting high, started drinking, started, just lost all control, right, right. And so in my knees, I get on my knees in that day in my, in my cubicle in prison, and I, god, I forgive my father for, for that. And in that moment I hear God say your dad did the best he could with what he had. I'm not even kidding Tudor. From that day on I have not touched meth or heroin since Because that addiction was tied to that unforgiveness. And the moment that I got on my knees and I forgave my dad for that, that addiction left me, that's it.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean that. What I mean, and the beautiful moment was that when I finally got out of prison, I got to go to my dad and be like, hey, I want you to know that that decision you made that messed me up. But I also want you to know that I forgive you. Yeah, you did the best you could, right? And I see my dad, like you know chin, begin to shake you know quiver because he knew in that moment that, wow, I just received something I didn't know I needed. You know what I mean. Yeah, but that also going to him and giving him that was more freedom for me. It freed you Because I made my peace with him. Even though I made my peace with God in that prayer on my knees and I was freed from that addiction, I still had to go to my dad and let him know hey, you messed me up.
Speaker 3:But I forgive you. Look at the people that killed Jesus and he forgave them.
Speaker 1:Forgive them, for they know not what they do. That's the same thing with us. Most people don't know what they're doing. They don't know that they hurt us or that they traumatize us or whatever.
Speaker 2:They're just living life and not really paying attention. You know what I mean? Yeah, just going about doing their thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we had a lady one time at our church said that. She said she went up to the pastor and she says I forgive you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You did something to me 10 years ago and he didn't even know what he did. Yeah, and she'd been Boiling inside. And finally she said I forgive you and got to let it go.
Speaker 1:Around here we call those courageous conversations Courageous conversations.
Speaker 2:Those things that we used to run from and avoid those are the very things we take care of.
Speaker 1:Now. If you feel like somebody said did something that's upset you, offended you, whatever, go, have that courageous conversation with that person and most of the time you'll realize wow, I had no idea that that affected you that way. That was not my intention. But if we don't have that conversation, we're over here for 10 years just like argh, argh, argh, yeah, and then every little thing that happens, it boils up more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know yeah and yeah, no forgiveness. That's one of the things my wife I give her the credit for because she has really taught me forgiveness, amen. She forgives people that have done us wrong in life. But forgive and forget.
Speaker 1:Move on.
Speaker 3:Doesn't mean you have to be friends with them all the time.
Speaker 2:Boundaries- Boundaries, you just let it go and don't take it personally, amen.
Speaker 3:Leave it, let it go, but don't take it personally, amen. You know, leave it, let it go. But this is wonderful, guys, yeah, well.
Speaker 1:I got to know a little bit about you.
Speaker 3:You got to know a little bit about me, and I learned something about Rowdy.
Speaker 2:I love you so much, Titor.
Speaker 1:There's going to come a time in my life where I'm not as busy as I am now.
Speaker 2:Amen.
Speaker 1:And when that time comes, man, I look forward to being able to spend some time helping you out.
Speaker 2:I'm going scuba diving with you, buddy, we'll definitely get you down to Rocky Point.
Speaker 3:Even if you go down there, we've got places that you can stay. Amen, very reasonable.
Speaker 2:You own one bud. Yeah, we own one. I'm staying with you in the guest bedroom baby. We've got some places that are very reasonable.
Speaker 1:I'll make a donation to the ministry. If you give me a little bit of a notice where I can set something up with my boss, where if you're going down there for a weekend or something that I can set something up with my boss.
Speaker 3:I'd love to do that. We'll get you in there. You could do a testimony in the prison. We'd love to hear. We'll have.
Speaker 2:Pastor Tony, translate for you just like he did for me, buddy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we always go in with him. He's great. Yeah, he's a great translator.
Speaker 1:Seeing him I've seen the video when he was down there and just listened to his experience and how he came back and talked about it. It's definitely life-changing man it is I mean we got the opportunity to go back into the jails county jails here in phoenix, man, and just uh, yeah, do ministry down there right, and just to redeem that time in our life, what we spent there in handcuffs bro me and my mom and dad were all locked up in lower buckeye jail so me and my mom and dad were going back on saturdays and
Speaker 1:ministering to 30 to 35 inmates in orange in a room walking the same halls that we used to the same halls that we used to walk in, the same halls that we were in Shackles and chains bro.
Speaker 2:Now we had a key to go open the door so that we could let the inmates out. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:That is so amazing. And Nathan Hale just reached out to me, alongside ministries, and wants to get me into the prisons.
Speaker 2:Come on, buddy.
Speaker 1:So God wants to redeem that aspect of my life as well, to be able to walk in there as a free man and be able to share the gospel, but to do it in another country bro yeah, that's, that's really yeah, that'll be amazing yeah and, and you know, we all have the stereotype of mexico prisons, right oh yeah, you know, you can just visualize.
Speaker 3:It's not like that it's not.
Speaker 2:No, it's not like that these guys are. These guys are all just, uh, the little puppy dogs are we gonna going to feed them hot dogs or are we going to bring them pizzas?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure there are some like down there. Oh, there are.
Speaker 2:This prison he's talking about. Before he started going in, it was like that Wow, these men in this time and these donations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the presence of God. People seeing God move and being like wait a minute, we like this. Yeah, you know what I mean. We don't want to mess this up.
Speaker 3:No, there's people in there that are really bad. Yeah, I mean, they've killed people. Yeah, you know this one kid that's there. He started murdering people at 14. Wow, burned somebody alive at 14. So he's been part of the. It's sad, you know, these kids have no direction. It's just like what happened to you. Yeah, you saw what your dad did and it changed your life in an instant. But you found God. Yeah, you're here. Yeah, and you got Rowdy. Yeah, you got a wonderful wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And life can only get better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Amen, If you really truly believe that that life will get better, it will get better, Especially with God in it.
Speaker 3:Oh you've got to have God in it all the way, I could not imagine a life without God.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. You hear the scripture in the Bible where it says come and taste and see that the Lord is good. And once you've had that taste and you've seen, how could you want anything else?
Speaker 3:Until you experience the Holy Spirit, you can't really describe it to somebody. They've got to experience it themselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you've got to experience it. Have an encounter.
Speaker 3:You've got to.
Speaker 1:We had a friend who just got out of rehab and came to church on Sunday and we were doing our Sunday encounter in Queen Creek. So he got to stay and hang out and help us load the truck up. But we were sitting in the there's probably what 15 guys 15 guys in there eating, sharing a meal together before we even loaded and when we got done I was driving him back to the library. He was like, wow, man, I'm like that's what it's about, bill, that's brotherhood. Those are people that I could call any moment in my life.
Speaker 1:And say, hey, I'm struggling, I'm hurting or whatever. They would pick up their phone and be there for me. I'm like there ain't nobody I know from my past that will answer their phone or drop what they're doing to come help me out. But every one of those dudes that was in that room would do that in a heartbeat. I'm like that's what you need, bill. Is people like that in your life? You know what I mean. And so for him to see that was pretty People like that in your life, you know what I mean, right.
Speaker 3:And so for him to see that was pretty Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, really yeah Wow.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. I'll end it with this. There was a pastor that went down to Rocky Point last week and he called me up. He said hey, I'm going to Rocky.
Speaker 1:Point and I want to bring my Tesla and I said hey, they got charge stations.
Speaker 3:They said there's no problem, as long as you charge in Casa Grande, you'll make it to Rocky Point. No problem, he gets to Rocky Point. He forgot the charge cable.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, yeah, he only had 26 miles left on his car, oh no.
Speaker 3:So he calls me up and I said guess what? I said they have charge stations there. Go, take a picture of the outlet and let me see what it looks like. And he takes a picture of, he sends it to me and it's a four prong.
Speaker 1:I have a three prong charger.
Speaker 3:So I said don't panic, god's in this one, and he's. He's got five, four or five little girls with him. And so I go down to Tesla Saturday and first I down to tesla saturday and first I posted on facebook yeah, anybody going to rocky point. And this lady texts me she says I'm going there tomorrow, which is sunday.
Speaker 3:I said can you take a charge cable down to las palomas? She goes yeah, I live, I have a place there. Yeah, I said where do you live? Come to find out she lives a mile from my house. Wow. So I said I'll be there sunday, I'll be there saturday, I'll bring you the charge cable saturday. So I go down to tes. It took them an hour and a half to get me a chart, an adapter, and I got the adapter, ran it right over to her house and she took it to him on Sunday charged the car Sunday night and came home.
Speaker 2:Don't forget your charger cables.
Speaker 3:So I decided I'm going to leave the charger cable at our condo. This way, if somebody gets stranded, HOA will call me and say, hey, we need the cable and it's in our condo.
Speaker 1:Go get it.
Speaker 3:It's just. My wife looked at me. She says you're the only one that would have done something like that for him.
Speaker 2:I said because I know he would have done it for me. It's your heart, Peter, it's the heart he would have done that for me.
Speaker 3:I mean, I spent over three hours trying to get that cable to him on sat on sunday, and and that's just how god works I mean, I know that he would have done it for me amen, and he's a pastor, yeah and it's so cool because he texts me and he says, hey, I'm here with pastor nacho, of all people right and then on sund on Sunday. He said hey, by the way, I met with Antonio. I mean the two pastors that.
Speaker 2:I love he knows them.
Speaker 1:Come on, he knows them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so uh, yeah, ben Diaz.
Speaker 2:It's a small world, man. We're all connected, especially in ministry.
Speaker 3:It was really cool to be able to help him.
Speaker 1:Can I just say that a man that could probably be doing anything in his life right now the fact that you serve people and serve the Lord, it's just the most beautiful thing, bro.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Obviously, you have the ability or the means to just do whatever you want man Going golfing in Havana or wherever. The fact that you choose to drive a food truck and serve people and drive to Mexico and serve people and serve the Lord like that. There's a reason you're that blessed brother. That's right. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It's just, it opens up opportunity for me to help people, yeah. And that's really what my life is all about. Amen. You know I want to leave a legacy with my son, yeah, and my two boys and their grandkids. I want them to know that Papa, you know, papa was a giver. Yeah, wow, because they'll grow up. You know it's one thing about our parents. You hear a lot about your parents when they're gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:My dad was a POW for two years in Germany.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah two years in.
Speaker 3:Germany, wow, and a lot of guys didn't make it, because I did some research on my dad. Yeah, and they had to. When the Russians were moving into Germany, they had to move the prisoners out, and it was in the middle of winter, wow, and I forget how many miles they had to march these guys, but they marched them a couple hundred miles.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:In the dead of winter.
Speaker 2:Wow, A lot of them froze and died man. A lot of them gave up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But my dad was made at home and and here I am Wow, Because he survived EOW Amen.
Speaker 2:Well, so, tudor, let me we've got. We got your encounter you talked about when you showed up to that church man. Things got real. You shared with us how your life changed with both the business with Rocky Point, the prison, the orphanage. Let's go into, let's finish this thing out with what you're hoping for in the future, because you, my friend, you got a lot of life left in you, tudor.
Speaker 2:You are healthy, you are strong, you are vibrant. You coming in here, I can just see life and Jesus on you, man. So God has a lot more for you and a lot of times, man, he'll give us vision. He'll give us vision so we can get little glimpses of things. Oh, that's where you're taking me. So where's God kind of leading you? What are you hoping for in the future?
Speaker 3:You know, I really my hope is to be able to continue what I'm doing. Okay, because if I can continue serving people, then opportunity sets in. Yeah, and you know, like I said, I was a health coach and I love what I do. I mean, there's nothing more rewarding than to get a phone call from somebody who says I'm down 50 pounds and it saved my life. Wow.
Speaker 2:Down 117.
Speaker 3:117 pounds right here, and that's really where I see myself 10, 20 years from now. You know, I'll be 10 years, I'll be 78 years old, and I look at people today that are in their 80s and I hear of an 80-year-old that runs marathons.
Speaker 2:Come on buddy, not half. Come on buddy.
Speaker 1:We're talking 26 miles at 80 years old.
Speaker 3:Come on buddy buddy and we had a lady came over the house last week and she's 76 years old and she just ran a half marathon. Come on, and no, I take that back. She did the uh, she did the grand canyon.
Speaker 2:Wow, 24 miles, wow from rim to rim to rim well, rim to rim is 48 miles oh okay, oh so just down, she down and down and uh she did did 24 miles.
Speaker 3:Wow, she's 77 years old. Wow, wow, 77. So I'm thinking okay, there's hope there for people yeah. But you have to get healthy. Yeah, you cannot be 50, 60, 70, 100 pounds overweight and expect to live a long, healthy life. Yeah, and so I want to be able to live until I'm 100. Come on, I really believe that I'll be doing the food distribution well.
Speaker 2:You don't look 68, brother. No, I don't feel it. Yeah, you look like you're in your 50s, man. I don't feel it.
Speaker 1:You know I've got my metabolism back. I'm afraid I think you can take me dude.
Speaker 2:He definitely runs faster than you, buddy. I will tell you that.
Speaker 3:I did a campaign back in 2012. I want to get up to 50 push-ups, so I went to the gym and I hired a trainer and I paid him 400 bucks. Come on, I came out doing 10. Okay, yeah, that's as far as I could get was 10. I didn't even do 10, right.
Speaker 1:And so.
Speaker 3:I worked with my cousin. He's a triathlon, he used to be a triathlon and I said, hey, I want to be able to do 50 push-ups.
Speaker 1:He said well, let's set a goal.
Speaker 3:And let's just do one extra day.
Speaker 1:Let's start with five that's good and then do six.
Speaker 2:And do seven. That's good.
Speaker 3:So I got up to 50. It took me four months. I got up to 50 push-ups and my record right now is 110.
Speaker 2:Come on, I did 110 push-ups.
Speaker 3:I'm doing push-ups. I'm doing push-ups, not every day, but I would say at least four days a week. Come on, okay, I knock out 50 push-ups. Nice, I can knock out 50 push-ups in about 20 seconds. Come on.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:And it doesn't take long anymore. Amen, but it was not always that way. Yeah, okay. The best part about being a health coach is I'm accountable. Yeah, okay, I'm accountable to Rowdy. I'm accountable to over 550 people, yeah, and I have a lot of followers and I don't want to go backwards. Come on, I want to stay healthy because if I can continue doing what I'm doing well into my 80s and be able to say I'm still running I mean, I run half marathons on the beach- in. Rocky.
Speaker 2:Point yeah.
Speaker 3:Every time I go down there, you will see that I never miss running.
Speaker 2:He does 10K every day. Every day, this dude does 10K.
Speaker 3:I'd run a lot, okay, but for me it's all about cardio.
Speaker 1:No, the Bible says about running right.
Speaker 3:What does it say it?
Speaker 1:says that a wicked man flees when nobody's chasing.
Speaker 2:It also says flee from sexual immorality. I'm just kidding man.
Speaker 3:I will tell you this I love you, Dad, the better the cardio you have, the longer you can stay on the water.
Speaker 1:So when I go diving, now back 15 years ago.
Speaker 3:I was the first out of the water. Wow, because I ran out of air. You would run out of air.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I never ran out of air except once, wow. But now, when I come out of the water having such good, cardio. I come out with 1,100 PSI. Wow, where before I'd come out with maybe 100 or 200. Oh, so you're, oh yeah, you're breathing real hard. When you're out of shape, when you don't have cardio, you're sucking a lot of air Come on. So when you learn, when you're in good shape, you're just sipping the air and I just so I can stay under now 45, 50 minutes. God just convicted me.
Speaker 1:Matt, amen, amen, do you smoke?
Speaker 2:No, no, he was able to quit man, but God wants him healthy.
Speaker 1:Coming up on two years no smoking.
Speaker 3:All right well here's a little challenge for you. Let's see if you can get up to 20 push-ups. I can do 20 push-ups. You can do 20 push-ups. No, you can't.
Speaker 2:I bet you.
Speaker 1:I could.
Speaker 3:I used to work out all the time.
Speaker 1:So I still have some muscle memory that's left there.
Speaker 3:Just remember one thing as we start getting older when you hit roughly 40 years old, you're losing about 8% of your muscle.
Speaker 2:Every decade you're.
Speaker 3:Even people that can't do a push-up do wall push-ups? And the further you put your feet out the harder it is. And so you start up against the wall and do wall push-ups. And then, as you get comfortable with that, then you do one or two push-ups on the ground. I mean, I literally started out with five push-ups and then worked my way up to 110.
Speaker 3:But it's little micro steps, that's all. It is just small steps. But if you do one extra push-up a day, if you can do 10 and tomorrow do 11. Amen, it really challenged you to do 12 on the next day. Thank you god, and that's what I did.
Speaker 1:I just did one a day I'm not a runner and I wanted to start running when I was in prison yeah and so I started with three laps, three laps and I told myself, just run, run a little extra each day. Yeah, it took me probably six weeks to get to three miles. Wow.
Speaker 2:Oh, this dude's a runner buddy. He can run a track in just steady pace.
Speaker 1:I was smoking cigarettes back then too, and all that other stuff.
Speaker 1:But I would go out there and I would just do three laps, I would do four laps, I would do five laps, and I worked my way all the way up to what was it? 12 laps. Twelve laps was three miles, and I made it three freaking miles, and I was like, wow, dude, you know what I mean, and it was the same thing. Just add a little bit extra time. Add a little bit each time, you know, I mean. Music's helped me, though, because if I sat there and if I didn't have music in, I would think about my breathing well, that's it.
Speaker 3:That's it. I listen to music. When I run, I do. I listen to christian music when I run, but this weekend we're going up to the Flagstaff staying at the cabin and any time I go to the cabin I run a 5K. Yeah, wow. And you run a 5K at 6,500 feet? Yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:You're going to feel that, buddy. They literally bring distance runners up to NAU because NAU has such a good long-distance running school. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3:I run up in the mountains. Come on, so I'll do a 5K this weekend. Wow, if not, maybe two or three of them, yeah, but yeah, that's one thing that I look forward to, because our weather's changing next week. Yeah, I don't know if you saw it, but it's coming Finally.
Speaker 2:we're under 100, bud. It finally broke.
Speaker 1:Guy's been really challenging me to get back to working on my health again. Yes, and I'm with you whenever you're ready fighting it. I'm ready, I'm being honest, I've been fighting it. Sure, I work a lot, brother. I'm not gonna. I mean, I consider making excuses, you know what I mean, but I do a lot. But god is telling me man it's 20, 20, 30 minutes. That's all you gotta do 20, 30, I mean I gotta we got everything we got.
Speaker 1:We got bench, we got curls, we got, yeah, but I gotta stop making excuses yeah, I'm tired and so to hear someone like you just now, god convicted me, man. He was like you need to do something.
Speaker 3:Well, my wife and I have a $100 a day bet every day. If you don't get 10,000 steps, it's $100.
Speaker 2:Wow, so this year will be.
Speaker 3:January will be two years. I haven't missed 10,000 steps. Come on, man. So January, and some days I'm short, a couple thousand steps, I don't go to bed.
Speaker 2:No, he literally has a circle in his house, Dad, that he walks his circle around his front room kitchen.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it's 34 steps. Yeah, but he'll do it over, and over, and over until 10,000 is done.
Speaker 2:So if I need 4,000 steps, I take my little calculator.
Speaker 3:I divide it by 34.
Speaker 1:A hundred times I got to do 172 laps.
Speaker 2:Come on, I ain't paying her 100 bucks and now, we bought these little trampolines.
Speaker 1:So we got little trampolines now.
Speaker 3:So that's a two for one by the way Up down.
Speaker 1:So if you need 1,000 steps, it's only 500 jumps and this guy, man Tudor, For me. I want to thank you because the way that you helped him with his weight loss journey propelled something in my daughter too To see the transformation in him made her.
Speaker 2:It's at least on her mind. It is, she's getting there, she just bought herself a little walking pad thing.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean so her heart is in it.
Speaker 1:Now it's just a matter of making the choices, but it was seeing him change that took place in him through your help really catapulted her into man. I need to start doing something.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I've got something else to share with you, but yeah, this is awesome. I didn't know what to expect today, but now that I'm here, I love it. I just got to know who you are. I got to know who you are and a little little uh background on you and you got some background on me now and stuff that rowdy didn't even know, some stuff that not even rowdy knew, but uh well, I'm honored to know you, brother and and man.
Speaker 1:Just just keep doing the work that you're doing, bro. Yeah, you know I what I mean.
Speaker 2:We'll be praying for you.
Speaker 1:If nobody acknowledges or see it, I want you to know that I see it. I follow you on Facebook. I see what you're doing, brother. And thank you, thank you. And um, yeah, it's, it's needed work. It is, I mean, and you'll live a long, good life because of it. Thank you, thank you, lord, thank you, lord.
Speaker 2:For me personally, tudor, just thank you. Thank you for obeying God at that convention center that day, man, and coming up to me and being so bold and God told me I'm going to help you. And then coming back to the hotel and the pictures and Susie and sharing your number with me. And then eventually, man, like last year, that call and it was like I'm ready, it's time, it's like, oh, man, now I had to do the work. I had the fork. You cannot run the fork so I had to eat the bars and fuelings um and self-control at night.
Speaker 2:Instead of a big plate in seconds, it was just this little, this little serving um. And in doing that, my metabolism I cleansed, I shrunk, I just the energy. There's just a lot um. And even now, as I'm saying this, man, I can, I can feel god saying come on, son, get back into it, man, because there's just a lot um. And even now, as I'm saying this, man, I can, I can feel god saying come on, son, get back into it, man, because there's just little people. We leak, oh yeah, we leak and we get off track and we hey I got off track.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean track sure, um, but this is just really giving me that motivation again to uh to get back up and get back on it and figure what's my goal. 199? I'm at 234 right now and I've been, so it's yeah, get back, come on rowdy, finish strong. And I think this, uh, I think we really get healthy and we start working out and doing some benches and some push-ups you'll.
Speaker 3:You'll help your sister. Yeah, amen, that's what you'll do.
Speaker 2:You'll help your sister because it's uh, she's gonna want to get involved too with this oh.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's nothing like having a family to get together and do it together. Wow, I mean, you know, when I started becoming a health coach, my wife didn't want anything to do with it. She thought it was another scam of money and I said, susie, this is it, this is the program. Took her two weeks. Okay, she saw. Okay, she saw what happened to me in two weeks and she's okay, sign me up. And here it is almost five years now. She's like this is the greatest thing on the planet.
Speaker 1:We learned with her to lead by example Got to lead by example, don't tell her that she's eating wrong, don't tell her what to eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that does no good.
Speaker 1:We started like sending her pictures of hey don got a salad today instead of chipotle fried chicken.
Speaker 2:So it's just, it's just it's being the example.
Speaker 1:I mean nobody. Nobody responds to accusations or or what to do, but if you show them how to how to do it, they'll follow.
Speaker 2:Man, yeah, so well, yeah, awesome guys, I'm gonna pray for you buddy, yeah, thank you thank you, lord, jesus man, god, I thank you so much for my brother. I thank you for what you've done in his life, god, I thank you, lord, that you've literally called him to love your people, and that's so many different ways, god, whether it's clothes or food, or time, this man. Man invests, god. He invests his time, he invests his talents, he invests his treasures, god, in everything you're asking him to do and that's what you ask us to do in your word. So, god, I pray that a seed is sown into a faith family church in Jesus' name that is going to take care of all the needs. God, let a team be risen up so that they will be the ones in tutoring that doesn't have to make every trip. I know it's in his heart and he wants to. But, god, I just see caravans. I see caravans that are full going down to Mexico. Um. So, lord, I thank you for that orphanage that those kids are not only getting their needs but they're getting Jesus. Those prisoners are not only getting their needs, but they're getting Jesus.
Speaker 2:God, um. So I just pray, lord, for a Midwest food bank and tutor and just that relationship and all he does for them. Just keep the relationship. Strong, god. Thank you, lord, because seasons come and go, people change transitions, but, lord, I just pray that your son, tudor, stays close to your heart. Thank you, lord. I thank you for Susie, god man, she's such a helper, she's such a warrior, she's so strong. We just bless her and we thank you for who she is, for tutor, god um, we just thank you for what you're doing this podcast, lord.
Speaker 2:I pray that, uh, people will listen to this, god and they'll know they'll want to help in mexico, they'll want to get involved. Thank you, lord um. So I just thank you for a yes. A yes today is going to lead to a yes tomorrow. We praise you, god, for where you have us, but we give you even more praise, lord, for where you're taking us, because our best days are ahead of us. In Jesus' mighty name, amen, amen, tudor, will you do us a favor, man? Will you pray for Speak Life, pray for me and Dad.
Speaker 3:Thank you, tudor. Will you do us a favor, man, will you pray for Speak Life? Pray for me and Dad. Yes, absolutely, lord. We just come before you now. Father, god and Lord, speak. Life has just taken it another step, and the only reason they're able to do this, lord, is that you're behind this whole thing, father God. You're bringing people into their life, including me. I was able to share today, lord. Thank you, lord. Lord, we just know that this is what you want them to do, and everybody that comes into this room, that speaks and brings life to this organization and this nonprofit I believe it's a nonprofit.
Speaker 1:Yeah 501C3.
Speaker 3:501C3. And it's a podcast that will just continue to grow. Father God, thank you.
Speaker 1:Lord.
Speaker 3:And Lord, we want a million followers, father God. Jesus, we want a million followers on this podcast and, lord, we know that the only way that's going to happen, lord, is that you put your hand on it. Thank you, god, and so, father God, we're just expecting, within the next year, to see this podcast just explode, thank you, lord. And people are going to look at it and go how the heck did that happen? And we're just going to sit there and just know that, lord you did it Jesus.
Speaker 1:Yep, you did it, Lord.
Speaker 3:So, Father God, we praise you over that, we honor you and we love you in Jesus' name.
Speaker 2:Amen, man, everybody, I sure hope you enjoyed this podcast today. I don't know where you're listening, from what platform you're on, but please subscribe to the channel, whether it's Spotify, apple, youtube. If you hit the little bell, man, you'll get all the notifications for the new episodes being published. If you yourself would like to come on the Speak Life AZ podcast and share your testimony, you can reach out through social media Instagram, facebook, twitter. Speak Life AZ. All one word, but until next time, man, we're going to continue to speak life AZ. God bless you.
Speaker 3:Jesus Right on guys. That was good. Awesome, my buddy.