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The testimony of Jesus in, with, and through everyday people like us. A father and son who were addicts for over 20 yrs. You name it, WE DID IT, TOGETHER!!!! we used to use drugs together now we share about what God Has done for us to encourage the body of Christ and anyone else who may listen to this that is feeling hopeless and empty. LISTEN TO OUR STORY...and the testimony of others who feel led to share with you.... GOD BLESS YOU....TODAY WE CHOOSE TO SPEAK LIFE AZ!!!!!!!!!!
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Th3rd Dae Da Mouthpiece Testimony
Join us on this compelling episode of the SpeakLifeAZ podcast as we sit down with Th3rd Dae Da Mouthpiece, affectionately known as Th3rd, to explore his transformative journey of faith. What does it mean to truly mature in one's spiritual walk, and how does music intertwine with this path? Th3rd opens up about his experiences from the gritty streets of Milwaukee to various cultural landscapes across the U.S., sharing how his deep-rooted faith illuminated his way through life's challenges. Listeners will discover how personal testimonies, like Th3rd's, amplify the power of community and kingdom connections, offering a vivid testament to resilience and spiritual growth.
The conversation takes a heartfelt turn as we examine the impact of family, identity, and the personal choice of faith. We challenge conventional expectations, questioning how familial pressures influence one's spiritual journey and highlight the importance of embracing imperfections as stepping stones to spiritual maturity, rather than excuses for stagnation. Personal anecdotes illustrate the delicate balance between recognizing sin and being defined by it, encouraging a profound understanding of our identity in Christ. Through these reflections, we invite you to consider how genuine Christian living shapes our actions and decisions.
In the final act, witness the birth of entrepreneurial spirit amidst trials and redemption, as Th3rd shares how his passion for music and faith became a conduit for organic connections. This episode doubles as a masterclass in using one's platform to spread the gospel—whether through uplifting lyrics, innovative apparel lines like "God Over Everything" global, or community outreach initiatives. Our discussion underscores the themes of integrity and humility, illuminating the powerful role of faith-driven entrepreneurship in challenging societal norms and fostering transformative relationships. Tune in to be inspired by stories of personal growth, community impact, and the relentless pursuit to bring heaven to earth.
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all right, everybody. Welcome back to the speak live az podcast testimony of jesus and everyday people. I'm your host, eddie, and always with me is my son roddy. Jesus, what up?
Speaker 2:dude. Yeah, boy, how you doing, man. I'm blessed, man. It was a good day. Yeah, took care of a lot of business. Come on, man, meeting after meeting, after meeting, amen I'm adulting bud. How was your day, bro, at the shop it? Was mellow nothing crazy bro.
Speaker 1:I had a nice day where I could just kind of chill.
Speaker 2:I think I took a nap for about 30 minutes so it was was a good day amen buddy getting paid to nap, praise god we've been hammered for like two, three weeks bro, so having a day like today was really nice for me to kind of our listeners.
Speaker 2:Know, man, the past couple episodes you've been sharing about how busy the rest is here. Yeah, who'd you bring? With you, man man, dude, this is awesome. Um, just a one of the brothers man here in the valley that, um, I've seen actually doing things for the kingdom man, um, and making moves for god. Uh, third day my man. What's up, bro, what's?
Speaker 3:going on.
Speaker 1:Praise the lord how y'all doing today doing good brother, thanks for coming on, man, yeah, man appreciate y'all for inviting me.
Speaker 3:I was a long trip, but yeah, it don't matter how long the trip is as long as you get to the destination. Amen, you feel me, amen.
Speaker 1:God made it very clear to us to honor his a yes from a brother or sister to honor them. So we thank you for your time, brother. It is truly an honor to sit down with God's kids and hear their story, because today we're going to kick the devil in the face.
Speaker 2:Come on, we're going to stir up some faith.
Speaker 1:We're going to encourage some hope in some people today. So we honor you and we thank you for your time, brother. Amen Appreciate you guys as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so let me pray real quick, man, and we'll just kind of get into this thing. Jesus, man, god, thank you, lord. Lord, I thank you for what you're getting ready to do, holy Spirit. God, you're getting ready to do what only you can do. I thank you, god. There's going to be people that watch this. There's going to be people that listen to this, god, that they come into a saving faith with Jesus Christ, because they know if you can do that for your son and you can do it for them.
Speaker 2:Um, so I just pray, holy spirit, that you just use this testimony, your, your son's been the pen in your hand for years, God, um, so I, I thank you for the story, your, your story, that's getting ready to get shared. God, that he's lived and he's walked. Um, so I thank you that today we're, we're taking back a power in our life because we overcome the enemy by the, the, the power in the blood and the word of our testimony. Um, so, god, so we, uh, we just give you all the praise, glory and honor in Jesus' name. Amen, amen. So third day, like that was saying bro, is it third day?
Speaker 3:It's third day to mouthpiece.
Speaker 2:Third day to mouthpiece.
Speaker 3:Okay, god just calls me third, third, all right, third.
Speaker 2:I'll use third today man. So for me, friend, this is an honor. I've had a couple of Brother Cleo, pastor Cleo, he was one of the men of God that really poured into my life when I was in Teen Challenge. There was a season man where I was out there on the streets and he was going door to door looking for me to try to get me back into the program, bro. But Cleo's a real one man. He'll go into the streets, bro, bro, to get God's lost ones man, that's why I love that man shout out.
Speaker 3:Pastor Cleo, you already know what it is. Yeah, I love you.
Speaker 2:Pastor Cleo. Um, he his uh testimonies on. If you guys want to go listen to his testimony, he's got a crazy testimony, man. Um, but so and we have brother Zippy, brother Nathaniel on on here. Man, it's just so. It's about community, it's about relationships. When we first connected on getting you on here, I felt God say this is a kingdom connection, so I don't know what God's going to do with this and our friendship and our relationship in the future, but he does. So it's just. It's really an honor, man, to have you on. I appreciate you guys. When God gave this to us, bro, it was during COVID, when it seemed like everybody was starting these podcasts. Man, yeah, and we were not obedient, we did what we wanted to do for a minute, bro.
Speaker 1:We got a word from God, took off running.
Speaker 2:Set up a studio in my bedroom and preaching videos and the words.
Speaker 2:Like that's not what God told us to do, man. He said the Speak Life AZ podcast, the testimony of Jesus in everyday people. It doesn't matter if you're like myself, man, you're on staff at a church and making the wheel spin here, like dad over at the muffler shop cutting on cars, grinding, welding, doing your thing, or like yourself, man, storefront, a man of God and making moves for the kingdom. We are all everyday people. We've all got a story, we've got a testimony. And so today, man, really what we want Third is who is Third? Where did Third come from? How did Third grow up? Man? What was the home? Like Brothers and sisters, was God in the home, sports school, just kind of who you are, man, because a lot of times people that are going to listen to this that's the stuff they're going to relate to and me and dad, we're involved in recovery ministries and our hurts, our habits, our hangups, the things later in life that mess us up, that we go into recovery and need healing from God. A lot of times it stems from, like childhood traumas and childhood hurts. So just let the Holy Spirit lead you in all that, man.
Speaker 2:But I think the coolest thing about this that we want to get today is your personal encounter with Jesus. Um, because everybody's is different. The way that God got you. It's different than the way he got me, man. He got. He got me at a blue altar at 1515 West grand Avenue and team challenge, he met dad in a prison cell on a yard, bro. So God knows right where he needs to get us at the time, in the moment. In the way that he met you. It's so. They're so personal, it's unique, they're so unique.
Speaker 2:So we want to know just your encounter and then how your life changed after. Because, man, reading the Bible, we know that a true encounter with the living God leads to transformation. Yeah, it leads to life change. Ain't nobody perfect. We get that, man, but it's just, uh, things change, things change, and then, um, at the very end. Third, we want to get what you're hoping for, man. Yeah, because you got a lot of life left in you, bro. There's a god's got more for your story to write. Um, I see like a worldwide ministry coming for you, bro, but I want to know what he's put in your heart, that he's shown you, so that we can pray for you at the end. But also our listeners, man, they're faithful and they pray for you too, right, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm from Milwaukee, wisconsin, man. I grew up in Wisconsin. A lot of people don't know that You're a. Packers fan.
Speaker 2:Are you a Bucks fan? Nah, not really. He goes Packers you know, not really.
Speaker 3:A couple of my family members, you know, played pro and stuff like that oh wow, but nah, not really, man, I mean.
Speaker 1:My boss is a Packers fan, brother I got. Packers crap all over his office.
Speaker 3:I'm like yeah, you know I'm a cheesehead though. Yeah, but I done lived in, you know, kentucky, atlanta, minnesota. Oh wow, Indiana, California. But I grew up you know, in Milwaukee. Wisconsin. Okay, and then you know, we went all over the place. We would go to this place and then come back. You know what I mean. My grandfather was a bishop. My father and my mother are both pastors today. Oh, wow, third, wow, my mom's a pastor in Chicago and my dad's a pastor in Tempe.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying so. I like my story is kind of different, because I like to tell people I was born with the Holy Spirit. Yeah, because I was exposed to Jesus Christ when I came out of the womb. You know what I'm saying. So I was exposed and I had just that exposure. I had a big responsibility upon my life because I grew up knowing. Now you know, with knowledge comes responsibility.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And for those who don't know, god gives them a little bit more cushion. Yeah, but for us that's rebellious and knowing. Come on, man, he chastise a little bit harder yeah, yeah so even though I had a relationship with jesus Christ and my mother and father and grandparents Instilled that into me, I was still Out, a part of one of the biggest gangs In the Midwest. Okay Selling dope Okay. Yep Pimping, Doing everything that I knew that I wasn't supposed to do. And the Bible says Damn. Third says disobedience is as the sin of witchcraft.
Speaker 3:So when you're moving in disobedience, knowing what you're not supposed to be doing, witchcraft makes you into someone that God has not called you to be so I was moving in a lot of, a lot of witchcraft, playing with fire, fire, fire man. Yeah, that's real, you know, but real but out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. So when I was out there selling dope, I would still be praying for people.
Speaker 2:Shut up, dad. You know, I know, yeah, what's the the?
Speaker 3:word said it's not what goes in you. Jesus said this is what comes out of you. So that's what was coming out of me. But at the same time, even though I was exposed to Jesus and at a young age I committed my life to Jesus, even though I had parents and I say this all over the place when people ask my parents' salvation wasn't my salvation I had to choose god on my own.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir and so the question about when did you encounter jesus? I encountered jesus before I even came out. The womb you feel what I'm saying, but on the an adult scale, in my adult life I've always known?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've always known, and always had.
Speaker 3:The best thing my parents gave me was an introduction to Jesus Christ, right, so I had a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:That's what he always tells me. He always said, man, my mom actually think I got a golden horseshoe up my, because I just get away with stuff, man. But it's one thing I grew up in the church Phoenix Community Church and I've just always believed. Yeah, I've just always. He didn't hear about God until like way decades into his life. Praise God. But so it just for people like us, man, that just we grow up in it and we know it's kind of crazy how we go into those seasons where we want to do what we want to do and trying to figure this stuff out. Man.
Speaker 1:Would you say that, being born with the hand of God upon you, that even though you walk away, his hand is still on you?
Speaker 3:I mean to be honest, there ain't no walking away. Amen still on you. I mean to be honest, there ain't no walking away.
Speaker 1:Amen. God says in his word that he doesn't. He gives gifts without repentance, but as you, choose to be disobedient his hand is still upon you. Oh yeah, his hand is still up on you.
Speaker 3:Just if you're a king of a kingdom, yeah, and you sit on the side of gilbert rowe with a, we'll work for food sign that does not make you not a king, we're the kingdom.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying so.
Speaker 3:God's hand is still up on your life and God still has a plan for your life. That's why you tell your children, when they mess up, like what are you doing? That's not even you. What are you doing? You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying so god doesn't change his mind about who he blesses, yeah are, you are you an only child I was just getting ready to ask that man, no no, it's, it's like 13 of us whoa and I'm the only one right now.
Speaker 3:I mean, all my brothers and sisters are believers to a certain extent, but doing what I'm doing, yeah, I'm being the example, like I'm the only one of my mother's kids and dad's kids that's walking this way, like walking this way, actually doing it, yeah you know, and even though it's trials and tribulations, I I have a responsibility to be an example, and I'm not even the oldest.
Speaker 3:I got three other brothers and sisters. That's older than me. I'm my mom, I'm my mom's I mean, I'm my dad's third oldest child. But fourth but you know I am the third but fourth, you know what I'm saying. If you want to just add, you know, my brother, the third, but fourth, you know what I'm saying. If you want to just add, you know, my brother is well, but my mom's, I'm my mom's second oldest child. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying but yeah, and I was always the one See my relationship being cultivated with Jesus Christ, because I was the one that was always gone from home. I was always running away always gone and I got to cultivate a relationship with Jesus Christ not through my parents not through anybody. They introduced me to.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3:I chose Jesus upon my own.
Speaker 2:It wasn't because they were making me or that.
Speaker 3:That oh, you was just raised up in the church. A lot of people in society nowadays they think oh, you know, 90% of atheists are believers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:They just have the choice now to be like man. I was raised up in it. I don't believe in that God. You know what I'm saying Every knee will bow. Yeah, I chose Jesus upon my own, and I knew at a young age that he had his hands on my life because I seen the favor of God in my life.
Speaker 2:The church you all attended as a family when you were a kid, was that Granddad's church? Yeah, it was my grandfather's church. What kind of like Episcopalian Lutheran Baptist? No, it was— Let me find out. Char charismatic or Pentecostal? No it was.
Speaker 3:I don't want to.
Speaker 2:It was either Pentecostal or Church of God in Christ. Okay, either one, I don't even remember.
Speaker 3:So whoever watching this?
Speaker 2:my dad. He don't watch this. I don't remember. It was a long time ago.
Speaker 3:Give him grace All I know is that you know Jesus. Okay, I don't get down and know I'm non-denominational. Jesus was against and is against.
Speaker 2:Division Come on, man.
Speaker 3:Denomination. He said a house divided against itself will not stand.
Speaker 2:Preach.
Speaker 3:He's not coming back for 17 brides.
Speaker 2:The Roman bride, the Catholic bride, the.
Speaker 3:Pentecostal the you know man.
Speaker 1:Family of God.
Speaker 3:No, he's coming back for one bride.
Speaker 1:Spotless Amen Jesus. So would you say your childhood was A lot of church.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can say my Like.
Speaker 2:Sundays, and did you have youth groups?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like all that Some days we went to sleep at church and woke up at church.
Speaker 2:Amen them lock ins, yeah so it was a lot of.
Speaker 3:it was a lot of church, would you would?
Speaker 1:you say that your parents example what it was to be a Christ follower in the home. Because we know a lot of people that raised in church, whose parents you know on Sunday are one way at home are a different way and their kids get confused and they think it's all just BS and they don't really believe because of the way their parents Well, I would say this.
Speaker 3:I would say this you know, it's always when you're dealing with humans, you're always going to have human activity.
Speaker 2:People are people.
Speaker 3:But what my parents sat down we really believed and we know and they showed us. Yes, it was stuff that went on.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's family stuff that goes on, brother.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say this Was there like Bible reading? Was there praying in the home? It was all of that.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people who go to church on Sunday and get home on Sunday afternoon and there's no praying, no nothing.
Speaker 3:My parents definitely taught us and brought us up in the word outside of the four walls as well. And I tell people like this man. People always say it no one's perfect, and I'm going to tell you something about that. The correct term is no one is unflawed. The word perfect in the greek means to be mature yeah, it doesn't mean biblically perfect. That's why the why would jesus or the word of god say be ye therefore perfect if it wasn't attainable?
Speaker 3:yeah, mature, it means mature third you know, and it's people, and what it means by it's people, that's I've been saved since For 30 years. You can't tell me nothing. If you've been saved for 30 years, why you still childish? Yeah, amen, why you?
Speaker 1:ain't grew yet. Yeah, why you get?
Speaker 3:Why you have? You got older, but you ain't grown.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know. So people say ain't nobody perfect. People use that, they use a Western, I mean a Western mindset with an Eastern gospel. My dad says that all the time, but it's the truth. You know what I'm saying, people. The word is not. There is no one perfect, it's no one is unflawed. You know why? Because we're wrapped in a flawed flesh. People will say sinner is not my identity. People say well, the word says he, that says he without sin, is a liar. Of course the word is true. I'm wrapped in sin, so I will be with sin every day of my life, but sinner is not my identity.
Speaker 3:A son is my identity, but so many people want a license to do what they do.
Speaker 2:They say I'm not perfect.
Speaker 3:No one's perfect. Okay, then let me ask you a question. If you smoke, crack and crack is in your body, how are you not high? If you have the perfect Jesus Christ inside of you, how are you not perfect? What Jesus do you have inside of you? And I get it because you're going to meet people where they at and this and this and that, but people are not teaching people their identities.
Speaker 3:That's real and their identities is in the word and I tell people this all the time if right now I can give you a tattoo right now, roddy, that don't make me a tattoo artist so if I sin. That don't mean I'm a sinner. I just sinned you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's not my identity.
Speaker 3:I could fix your car. That don't make me a mechanic. I just fixed your car. You know what I'm saying. I could preach a word. God could use a donkey. I could preach a word, but that don't make me a preacher, Right? You know what I'm saying. That to say is yes, it was things in the home. Our parents were doing the best that they could do, but they stood firm on a belief and what they stood on for Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:And now so school. Okay, how was school for you, how was grades for you?
Speaker 3:I got all the way to the 12 grades and dropped out you feel what I'm saying, you feel me like you know, you know, just acting dumb, doing stuff. I wanted to go out and hustle my cousin. He went to the nba yeah, you feel me. And every time he was going to school I was standing outside of school rapping. I did that. The teachers know me, everybody knew me for rapping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:The peers knew me, for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So there's been something you've been doing since you was a kid.
Speaker 1:Since I was a kid. Really you feel me. You play any sports.
Speaker 3:You're a pretty big dude. People ask me that all the time, nah, that wasn't really my thing Hustle.
Speaker 2:I got to know, bro, who went to the NBA dog.
Speaker 3:No, my cousin. His name is Carl Landry you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:I know Carl Landry Houston Rockets. Yeah, come on, man, I'm a sports addict, but I'm in a group for recovery for sports addiction. Yeah, he's from Milwaukee, he went to.
Speaker 3:Benson High School you know what I'm saying in Milwaukee, but you know what I'm saying. He went there and we joked today you know what I'm saying, and I was just talking to him yesterday and we joked all the time like, well, you was outside and I was.
Speaker 2:He was in the gym doing his thing. You was outside smoking and doing yours, bro, look where his got his.
Speaker 3:Right, right, that's real. So you know, and just being around entertainers and being around this, but my parents I want to stress the fact my parents stood on the word of God and yes they made mistakes, Of course, man. They were just doing the best that they could. But the best thing they gave me was the introduction of Jesus Christ. And when you give, God is the increase. One man plant, one man water, and God makes the increase one man plant one man water and god makes the increase.
Speaker 3:My parents could not increase nothing on my life. It was me to make the decision, god well, there was 13 of you, yeah how old were you when you started doing crazy stuff, man?
Speaker 2:oh well, what's he's, what's crazy stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, he said he was gangbanging and all kinds of stuff, man.
Speaker 3:Teenager man 12. Yeah, I was beyond my years. So when I was like 11, 12, when I was 12, 13.
Speaker 1:How old were you the first time you got?
Speaker 3:high, oh middle school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where I was too. What is like Wisconsin? Is that like hoods up there? Is there because I heard you say something about a gang like one of the biggest gangs?
Speaker 3:Milwaukee, Wisconsin, is a baby Chicago. Oh wow, it's wild out there man.
Speaker 2:My grandma used to live in Gary, indiana bro, so she would tell me all about Chicago and the murder rate Wow I didn't know. Wisconsin was like that, bro, or Milwaukee.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, gary is wild too, yeah, wisconsin ain't no punk man, okay, okay, punk man, okay Amen. How old were you when you first sold your first bag of dope? Let's get into some of your craziness, brother. A lot, a lot. You know what I mean. Around that time too.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying 13, 14.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Around that time man.
Speaker 2:So your teenage years, rather than finding your people in your community in the church? Which was family and stuff. You started hanging out outside and kind of on the streets in your teenage years and you said you was wise beyond your years, so you was hanging out with people who was older. Yeah, and I know myself, when I would hang out with youngsters I'd get them youngsters to do things for me, so I ain't got to get in.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? That's real, bro. Yeah, well, on that tip, I've just always been an independent person. You feel me? My mom and dad will tell you, I've always just been out there on my own and got it done on my own. Yeah, we had our clique and our crew and stuff like that but like that.
Speaker 3:But I was always a leader and I was always you know, getting it, getting it how I live. You feel me, I didn't wait. I never was the type of person that'll that'll wait on mommy and daddy oh, mommy, I want this. I was never sheltered. A lot of my brothers and sisters if not all of them would shelter but like but, I, mean you would go get it.
Speaker 2:I'll go when you say when you say shelter, do you mean like protected from the world kind of thing?
Speaker 3:No, not really, but they was just in the house and I was outside.
Speaker 1:Okay, how did your parents think you'd do? And all that.
Speaker 3:I got a lot of whoopings yeah.
Speaker 1:I got a lot of whoopings.
Speaker 3:I got a lot of correction. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's love.
Speaker 3:But they knew. You know what I'm saying. They knew God had his hands on me man and they would just pray for me and I definitely made my mom and dad frustrated in my younger years a whole lot Any arrests, cops, jail, prison sentences or anything like that. Yeah, man, I've been behind the walls. Now I go back behind the walls.
Speaker 2:In Wisconsin, Not here oh here, no, no, but you, you were arrested and I've been locked up in milwaukee.
Speaker 3:I've been locked up in kentucky.
Speaker 1:I've been locked up in atlanta oh, wow bro you know, I mean, okay, those places are a lot different than arizona, ain't a lot? Yes, it's.
Speaker 3:It's a lot different man, but you know, like I said, I've always had favor with murderers. I always had favor with the COs and judges and I always had favor, Like they would come get me when they had somebody acting up. They'd come get me, like all the you feel me.
Speaker 2:You had the keys Right. That was him, man.
Speaker 3:The races in there, they would all come, chop it up with me. The Spanish blacks, the white, they would all come, chop it up with me. The Hispanics blacks, the whites, they would all come, chop it up.
Speaker 2:Ask for prayer and just know that I was on my own.
Speaker 3:I never got caught up in any politics. I never had to, you know what I'm saying. And this was just a favor and a grace of God, because they all knew what I did so I was never pressured by that or having to do that like for real. The nurses would come in and be like you preached already, like what's going on. I missed it like and I would just be around all the all the people wouldn't even talk to other people but me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like lifers people on the death penalty, getting the death penny, wouldn't talk to they, wouldn't even. They'll look at you like you stupid. But they'll talk to me and people will be like how the heck is he talking to you, not me?
Speaker 2:you know what I'm saying relatability, man. It's just god, bro, it's just jesus.
Speaker 3:It was just jesus, it wasn't me, I can't, and none of this uh, this, uh podcast, I can't take no credit, man, it's all been the grace of god all the grace of god yeah, yeah, amen.
Speaker 2:So after high school you say senior, you dropped out no, graduating no.
Speaker 3:I was working?
Speaker 2:Okay, you were working. I was working and hustling, you feel me? Oh, so you were working.
Speaker 3:You were working, yeah, I was getting to the money man. I had a full-time job under the table when I was like 60. What were you doing 60 working at family dollar, okay with one of my homeboys. We were selling. We were selling weed too you feel them, but you know his sister was the manager so we would come in and do the stocking, doing the trucks and all of that, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Even I was ran away by that time, but I had a full-time job under the table, wow you feel me when I was young. You feel them saying I always had a hustle, okay, always a paper route shoveling snow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I'm saying a lot of that in wisconsin getting to it, man.
Speaker 3:So you know, all right at you know, at 12, 12th grade man, I, you know, I just dropped out and said, man, I'm out of here, get that money.
Speaker 2:So you're rapping, since you was a kid man. Uh-huh. Is it just words and freestyling, or are you like making beats and making songs and writing choruses?
Speaker 3:Yeah, all of it. Man. Like I started off singing in a choir. You know what I'm saying. All my cousins are musically inclined. Play the keyboard, play the drums. My uncle even one of my uncles rap, my brothers rap.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:A couple of my brothers rap. My cousin, I saw him, one of my big cousins, man, he the reason why I really saw him doing music and stuff and it really inspired me man, music and stuff, and it really inspired me man. And you know, then, from there you know I started, just you know I couldn't let my dad wouldn't let us listen to any uh secular music.
Speaker 2:We listen to secular music, if you don't, if you don't mind me asking bro, how old are you? 40? Oh, I'm 42 man. So I grew up listening to all the same stuff. Man. A rap, bro.
Speaker 3:We had the good rap yeah so you know, and I just started, you know, listening to, you know, DMX Gospel Gangsters, antonius.
Speaker 2:Grape.
Speaker 3:Tree Records, man and just LAJ and just a lot of music. Classical music was always my favorite music because when I listen to classical music I can tell like it was close to god you feel what I'm saying, but uh, yeah, just, I made, I make beats and I ain't made beats in a while, but make beats, rapping, freestyle, used to freestyle for hours, like hours and hours and people would just stand around and listen, bro, like, and that's what I did, man. Wow, I loved music man.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:I never idolized it, but because it was just an outlet man. Yeah, and you know I got 20 albums today, plus like 12.
Speaker 1:Dang you do, you do. Oh damn, I'm going to check that out.
Speaker 3:Plus like 12 more done. That's just sitting. You know what I'm saying. Wow I got a lot of stuff, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:By the grace of God man God really gave me a lot to say you ever get a wild hair man.
Speaker 2:I sit in my room, bro, just rapping. Yeah man, I don't know. We've had a couple people on.
Speaker 1:that are musical people. We had Wanji and Lavelle. Both are music people and I'm like man, give this guy something.
Speaker 2:We'll connect, bro. Send me a track. We can see if he can actually do it or not.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely so. I'm his stepdad. He came into my life when he was probably like 14. Yeah, ever since then he's always been in the rap dude. Yeah, always in his room doing his thing.
Speaker 2:I mean, it drove me nuts, I'm not gonna lie, I'd sit outside school smoking blunts rapping too, bro. Yeah, it was fun though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so, uh, you said you were. So you said you were hustling, making money, and you and you left home. What time, how long we left home? Because obviously you got money. You're slinging, working, working, doing your thing.
Speaker 3:Man, I don't know. I want to say 14, 15.
Speaker 1:Damn bro.
Speaker 3:I was out there.
Speaker 1:Did you have a place? Or just staying at a homie's house? What were you doing, bro?
Speaker 3:The first one. I first left.
Speaker 2:I was with a few of my homies, yeah, I mean the friends and family.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I've always I, I uh, wouldn't move with my dad. You know what I'm saying? Um, when my mom and dad got divorced, I went and stayed with my dad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm saying that was he still in milwaukee too?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah yeah, so uh, but uh. Then when I got a little bit older, like 17, 18, you know, I I just started being on my own for real, for real 16, 17 18, but I was out there in the streets, yeah, when I was young, doing your own thing, man, always doing my own thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, feel me. You said you were moving around a lot, when you yeah, was that as a kid or as an adult?
Speaker 3:no, I was with my dad, so we, we, we would go different places, you, you feel?
Speaker 1:me. But when I got, like Was your dad like a traveling evangelist or something?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was. He traveled a lot, but you know we was in Milwaukee a lot but we went to a lot of places. Man and my dad would preach a lot of different stuff like that. But when I was like I would say 16, 17, I moved to Kentucky with my sister yeah, in lexington all right, and then that was a whole different.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, going from wisconsin, kentucky, the bluegrass the hills, yeah, man, but nah, it's hood in lexington man, don't let it fool you, you feel me lexington kentucky man is hood you feel me just like louisville, man, it's hood.
Speaker 1:You feel me Just like Louisville. Where was Zippy from? He was from Kentucky, wasn't he?
Speaker 3:I think he's from Covington. Covington, that's the sticks you feel me.
Speaker 2:That's where the heels are man.
Speaker 1:You feel me, but.
Speaker 3:Lexington, louisville. It's hood, it's gangster there, but I ain't gonna say it.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what I'm saying. They wild out there too. There's hood everywhere, right, exactly you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna say there's no, no punk or nothing like that but but yeah, lexington is more like the city you feel me and and where?
Speaker 3:where, uh, university, kentucky, the wildcats.
Speaker 2:You know, that's where they their college is at, so so you know it's wild out there, you know what I'm saying, stuff like that.
Speaker 3:But I moved to Lexington with my sister and you know, even though I was with my sister, I was still on my own. My older sister, but I was on my own with her baby. Dad, you feel me.
Speaker 2:And he just was a straight beast hustler.
Speaker 3:He was grinding in the streets beast hustler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was grinding in the streets and he was. You feel me. No, you feel me both her baby daddies. They was known, you feel them saying so, I was with them I went to kentucky.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. It went to a whole nother level man like you know they was doing their thing, man, and I just, you know, got to do following the footsteps, man. It's what we do yeah, got to doing what I was doing what would you say was the draw to that?
Speaker 1:just the money, the hustle, the man. Just what was the attraction?
Speaker 3:just you know, hustling for real, because I've always been a hustler, you feel me like grinding, so just making something out of nothing, you know what I'm saying having your own. You know what I'm saying so you know you know, uh, yeah, that's basically what it was. I've never been a money person, but I've always been a hustler, you feel me Not like yeah, I got to have money I got to have. No, I just like. I've always liked it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get mine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like the process.
Speaker 1:Put it like that Amen.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm saying hey, I got this pound right here.
Speaker 2:So how was it for you growing up? Did you guys grow up in a little bit of poverty or with less than? And so you, as you were growing up, you're like man, I ain't living like that no more.
Speaker 3:Nah, nah, I mean we was cool. Yeah, we lived in the hood. You feel me? My parents did their best, but I never would.
Speaker 2:You always had food to eat and the fridge was okay. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You know they did it to their best ability. But me, I was just always a headstrong person. I wanted my own. I didn't depend on my mom and my dad. I wasn't like oh mommy, daddy, I wasn't that. I always wanted what I wanted, I wanted and you know what I'm saying God gave me that. I can say that it was a gift from God that. I just was able to make something out of nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Okay, and get it. What do you think made you that way? Obviously, you said some of your brothers and sisters were more protected.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they was more in the house. What do you think made?
Speaker 1:you kind of that?
Speaker 3:person I can just God is he made me a leader man, and that's what it was Like. I never been a follower.
Speaker 1:So that was an area that you could lead in. All right, that's it. You know what I'm saying and wow, that's just what it was, so I didn't I didn't like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm gonna be like this, yeah it's just what you did and people just follow.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, I can see like the enemy saw you as a leader. It's like, oh, look at this one, yeah, we're gonna take him and put him over here in this side environment. Let him lead here. It was just natural man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on now, let's get it it's, it's almost it's funny because that's really what happens. It's like god has put this mantle on your life. He's put this anointing on your life for him and for the kingdom and for his glory. But when, when we kind of go and make our own choices and do our own things, man, the enemy sees that and he's like I'll use this for my kingdom and and that's really, that's really what it is, and god just kind of brings us back into alignment. And, from what I can see through social media and stuff, man, you're, you're doing it. You was just in colorado last month, bro, with a whole bunch of kids that were getting baptized and saved. I'm like this is what's that, man?
Speaker 3:well, well, you know, whatever god has, the devil has a counterfeit.
Speaker 2:Yeah you know what I God has. The devil has a counterfeit.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying the devil is not a creator, he's taking modified. So God does put a calling on our life and we sometimes you think psychics aren't prophets?
Speaker 2:Now, that's a lot of fake psychics, of course, but you know what I'm saying. But God gives gifts without repentance. You know what I'm saying? No, but that's.
Speaker 3:But God gives gifts Without repentance.
Speaker 2:You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So we just go the other way. You know what? I'm saying so you know One thing and I say this a lot and I tell this A lot of podcasts One thing, I told my mother and she'll tell you when I was little, I wanted to be a preacher. I want to be a preacher, I want to have a lot of kids Come on, and I've accomplished all of them.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I think I seen a picture of you at an aquarium and there was a whole bunch of little ones. Is that your family?
Speaker 3:I got 10 kids and three grandkids. Wow, wow.
Speaker 1:Third yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'm very hands-on with my children, you know what I'm saying and very you know, letting them know I love them and letting them know I'm grinding for them and teaching them how to be entrepreneurs and be entrepreneurial and showing them how to have a personal relationship with Jesus. Christ man as best as I can, but knowing that they're going to choose what they choose. But I hope they choose the will of God for their life.
Speaker 2:It's going to be just like you and your family man of you guys are gonna be in it. Some of them are gonna. It's just people we, the, the we just gotta trust god with them, man. And even even the kiddos yeah, they're his kids. He just gave them to you for a time to just steward and part into them and love on them and hopefully help them, man. But yeah, one day they're gonna fly the coop and go out into the world, man, and that's you just got to trust that. The things you're doing now are are principles and character and integrity to where they're gonna be. Good men and good women that are are gonna really help this world changers man, all I can do is plant the seed and send them to water the seed, and it's god's job.
Speaker 3:Yeah, be the increase. Yeah, man Well so.
Speaker 2:Lexington, kentucky, in your early 20s? Nah, teens, teens, teens. Okay, how long were you in Lexington doing?
Speaker 3:what you was doing, man. I lived in Lexington for many years, man, many years. Then I went to Atlanta, then I came back to Kentucky. What brought you to Atlanta? Then I went to Atlanta, then I came back to Kentucky.
Speaker 2:What brought you to Atlanta?
Speaker 3:My dad moved to Atlanta.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, from Wisconsin down to.
Speaker 3:Atlanta From. Yeah, Wisconsin, Illinois area my dad from.
Speaker 1:Illinois. How old were you when you were in Atlanta?
Speaker 3:About 17, 18. What was that like?
Speaker 2:It was cool. I was still ripping and running, doing my oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Now you're in atlanta, bro man, and this is right when atlanta was really yeah ripping and running doing my thing, man, and that's where I had my first baby, my daughter my daughter, but I was in Cobb. County locked up in jail, but she we good today Amen.
Speaker 1:What was the longest stretch of time you've ever done in one sitting In one sitting.
Speaker 3:Two years, two years Came with me, bud. Yeah, I did a five piece.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was fun. Two years Came with me bud. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I did a five piece.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was fun.
Speaker 3:Two years, yeah Ain't nothing to glorify, amen.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:People think they so hard.
Speaker 1:I met God in there, though. Right, I mean, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:But people think the heart, the heart of the testimony, that they hard. No, but people think the harder the testimony, the harder. I don't wish that upon.
Speaker 2:God Amen bro but.
Speaker 3:God, will People say God lock me up, God didn't lock you up?
Speaker 1:I made the choices he allowed you. I made those choices he allowed you.
Speaker 3:About two years, two and a half years, you know what I'm saying Around that time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But God has always used me to bring people to him being locked up. So would you say that? Would you say that when you, as you're running and gunning that you'd get locked up, you'd kind of come back to your faith in there, or well? We're talking about how you were locked up and then you'd be preaching to people and praying for people.
Speaker 3:I was doing that on the streets too, but but you know, when you get to get that clear head and you get to sit down and hone in. You know what I'm saying. It's never been a jailhouse religion, because I had a relationship with Christ All your life. But you'll get more clarity and you're like, dang okay, look, let me you know what I'm saying, shape it up and see how I can help people.
Speaker 2:So what? Because you said you were smoking, Were you just smoking and drinking or did you get into like Crack and meth and that kind of stuff?
Speaker 3:Nah MDMA.
Speaker 2:Okay, ecstasy Alright.
Speaker 3:Wheat.
Speaker 2:Okay. Pills the like the perk Perk.
Speaker 1:Lower tabs Okay. Klonopin Okay.
Speaker 2:Painkillers.
Speaker 3:You know Percocets. Okay, you know all that.
Speaker 2:But the legal drug. I'm sorry bro, I'm just working in recovery. You can say it's legal, but you get caught with something that ain't yours, it ain't legal, bro. You feel what I'm saying? Amen. So you know that.
Speaker 3:But I've sold it all, though, amen.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Cook crack. You know what I'm saying Cooked crack. You know what I'm saying Cocaine, it's a good money maker.
Speaker 3:Cocaine, all that, that girl and all that that boy too, you feel?
Speaker 2:what I'm saying, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah, but never, you know, I ain't never.
Speaker 2:You ain't really have an addictive personality. No To where to where you lose yourself for a drug or something crazy. No, no Okay.
Speaker 3:Being silly on that drink. You know what I'm saying. That's about it. You know what? I'm saying but no, just weed molly you know what I'm saying. Pills drink. That's about it. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So you said you were in Atlanta for like a couple years. I was in.
Speaker 3:Atlanta for like three years.
Speaker 2:Then back to lexington then back to lexington.
Speaker 3:Yeah, back with your sister. Uh, nah, I was with my baby mama by the end. Yeah, but my sister she still lived there. Okay, you know she still live in kentucky, but you know I came out there living with my sister because I was ripping and running so so I went out there. I got to different places in life like yo sit him over here and see if he'd be straight, Sit him over here for you, but I was always just me.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, you find the people.
Speaker 1:So everywhere you went was with family. Somebody with family, yeah. Everywhere I went, it was with family, would you say your parents were trying to get you right, or was that just family being like come over here, man, you're being a knucklehead.
Speaker 3:No, I mean something like that, but people be trying to move out of town. Man, I need to switch up the place. Hey, you can move to Australia.
Speaker 2:You're still going to find it if you're looking for it. If your mindset ain't right, you're going to encounter the same stuff.
Speaker 1:So you know, I just was with my sister and my older sister and, and you know, all these times you were locked up was as a juvenile.
Speaker 3:No, no, you got locked up as a juvenile I got arrested as a juvenile, but I ain't never been as a juvenile locked up.
Speaker 1:Locked up like that it was all adult yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So, oh, so you were running gunning for a while, then A long time. Really, you know what I'm saying, and it just had to come to myself. That's the thing. You know, the prodigal son, he went out there and did his thing and blah, blah, blah. But he had to come to. He said wait, hold on man slot with these pigs let me kill myself so you know, I always knew god had a calling on my life and my parents knew.
Speaker 1:You know so yeah, when you're out there hustling you never, you never. I mean, was there ever just a desire to come back to god, or was it just?
Speaker 2:you were. Are you going to church this whole time? You guys, you're living like this. You ain't going to church on sundays, are you?
Speaker 3:not really going to church on sundays, but I did step going to church On Sundays but I did step foot In the church. I did. That's where it's like the headquarters. You feel what I'm saying? So I did. I never was like no, I'm not going to church, and all that. I used to pray All the time, you know, with my chicks and all kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:My homeboys, you feel what I'm saying that was just in me and it was, that's what was just coming out, man. So I never uh, I never stopped having a relationship with christ never yeah, I never cursed the god like, yeah, I can't remember a time in my life where I ever was like I always knew it was me. Yeah, never, no conviction.
Speaker 2:Conviction on what I was doing yeah why you think he was drinking you know, that's what I said.
Speaker 3:Being disobedient is the sin of which? When you get to a state, even if you're saved right now, that you're not convicted, you're reprobate, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying so yes, I had convictions.
Speaker 3:But you know, when you living in pride and living in sin, you don't care about what's right. It comes out of you because it's in you. But you're not like. I was always convicted, lord man, I'm sorry, I was always apologizing, lord, I'm sorry, man, you know what I'm saying. I do.
Speaker 2:Man. There was a in 2014, when mom and dad kicked me out after my prison sentence. Man, I went into Teen Challenge and I was good for a few years and I went out to California, was doing my thing for a few years. And I went out to California, was doing my thing, came back in 2017 and 2018, started hitting the bottle every now and then and, uh, just little by little, man, by 2019 I was back in a full-blown addiction. Bro, yeah, lost he, he's, he was watching it all.
Speaker 2:Him and mom, man, and um, I, I, I thought I the only good thing in my. I had ruined it and messed it up. So I was literally cursing God. I was literally telling him F, you take your hands off me, I want to die, let me go, and I'd do a shot, man, I'd wake up. I'm like dang dude. So it's just, god has a plan for our lives. Man and I had to go back to Teen Challenge in 2020, man, he got me right. And my mom, my mom actually told us. He said we need to go back to Lifelink Church and me and him were like, yeah, we came back, but she didn't.
Speaker 1:But it's all good bro.
Speaker 2:She's coming. She knew what we needed. Yeah, she knew what we needed, man. She's been the voice of God in our lives, the voice of reason, man and God love you, mama. But it's just, we're all in process, man. We all go through our seasons, right? So after Atlanta, you go back up to Kentucky. You're still running the streets, yeah, okay, how long are you there? Where do you make your?
Speaker 3:next moves. How's this go? I was in content well, we went from well. When I was little, like I said, I've been in we went from milwaukee to california, back to milwaukee as a family no, it was just me and my dad and my brother, you feel what I'm saying, me and my dad and my brother.
Speaker 2:You feel what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying Okay, me and my dad and my little brother. After my mom and dad divorced, I was the first kid that went to live with my dad. Yeah, okay, so it was me, then my little brother came, then my sister came for a while. You know what I'm saying Okay. But we went from Milwaukee to California. What part of Cali Pomona?
Speaker 2:Okay, you then. What part of cali pomona? Okay, all right san bernardino, I was born in thousand oaks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pasadena, like oh see, you know, we was all over the place, but but pomona yeah, um, I just heard that rapper in my head. That's what we're doing in pomona yeah yeah, he's from Pomona, but uh, but, uh, yeah. And then we came back to Milwaukee and then, uh, I think, man, where was I at it's so long man? But I went to Kentucky. From what did I say Atlanta, no, I went to Atlanta. I went to Atlanta from Kentucky. Then back to Kentucky. With your baby's mom no, I went with my dad.
Speaker 2:My dad lived in Atlanta.
Speaker 3:I went to Kentucky with my sister, my dad moved to Atlanta from Illinois and Milwaukee. You feel me. I went to Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Then back to Kentucky.
Speaker 3:From Kentucky. I was locked up and then came out here. My brother told me to come out here.
Speaker 1:How old were you when you came?
Speaker 3:out here 20-something 24, 23. Oh, so you've, been out here for a while then. Yeah, Wow bro. And then I went back to Kentucky. Oh, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:What brought you to Arizona Back out here.
Speaker 3:My dad had moved from Atlanta to Arizona.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh well, he said the pastor in Tempe at the time you feel me Like he just knew that he was.
Speaker 3:He just knew that where he was at wasn't for him. Yeah, he knew God. He told him. God prophesied to him like when he was young, stating that he was going to be somewhere, that it was sunny and it never snowed. Come on, wow. And a few years ago he really found out, like dang, that was Arizona.
Speaker 2:So he just was like, just like me.
Speaker 3:We're not like the type of person we get bigger than the cage. You know what I'm saying? This is where our minds he love it here.
Speaker 2:He like Arizona.
Speaker 3:Me, I don't even want to be here, no more.
Speaker 1:You feel me, I'm all over the place. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I get to a point where my job is done. You feel what I'm saying, or, and I as god, he released me. Okay, your job done you know, what I'm saying. But but, um, yeah. So I came out here. You feel me, my brother. I was locked up in kentucky and my brother was like come out here. And he already had fans for me out here on the music tip everything. So when I came out here I had people waiting to meet me and I was, you know, this is 2000s.
Speaker 3:I could say, yeah, 2000s, okay.
Speaker 1:So when you were doing all your thing, you were making music too. Yeah, really.
Speaker 3:I got 20 albums out there. Really, bro, I've been doing music since I was a little kid.
Speaker 1:Even in Atlanta you were doing some music, Because Atlanta's big for music.
Speaker 3:It's huge out there too, but I remember one time my brother, I was in the middle of recording one of my albums, my brother sent it to the guards in in Kentucky, yeah, and they said, hey, come listen to your court tapes. And I'm like I ain't even been to court. How do I got court tapes?
Speaker 3:yeah they gave me a boom box and let me listen to my album in there and people was like what the heck? They were. I'm in there bobbing my they looking through the door, because it was like the legal room yeah, what is you listening to this my album? So god, have favor. Like that, you know all my life, like it was just that don't happen, man that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Where can we find these albums?
Speaker 3:they all over the place, but they tuck though. Put it like. Put it like that Spotify?
Speaker 2:Nah, I wasn't I wasn't on Spotify. I know right.
Speaker 3:I have these actual albums. Yeah, I have these but I got three albums. That is. Uh, I got some stuff on SoundCloud, but three my last three albums they on Spotify and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But and stuff like that. So I got to ask.
Speaker 3:Obviously at that time you're not, it's not like you're rapping about the lifestyle. Nah, it wasn't gospel, but God has always been. I was screaming at you. A lot of people don't know You'll see God over everything over here. I was screaming God over everything, even when I was in the streets, yeah, saying God.
Speaker 3:I can show you some stuff where I'm cussing on there. I'm talking about God over everything. So, like I've been saying this for a long time, but actually and a lot of people don't know it's actually God over everything, global that's the LLC. We just say God over everything. For sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I went through a season, brother, where that was my motto. I was going through some rocky times times and I just kept saying, even on social media you go look at my old social media, it got over everything. Man, I don't care what's going on, it's god over everything.
Speaker 3:And that's what it is a mindset.
Speaker 1:We're not a label we're not a crew or anything it's just right.
Speaker 2:It's just god over everything.
Speaker 3:It's just a mindset, because kingdom it gotta be your mindset, because that's the truth, it's God over everything, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel me. That's good stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I came out here, man, and just started making waves out here doing what I was doing hustling out here. You know what I'm saying? Ripping and running out here and there.
Speaker 2:Where'd you move when you landed?
Speaker 3:East Valley oh okay, east. Valley I here, oh okay, east valley. I was in tempe gilbert, tempe, gilbert mesa, you feel me all over there. Then I got to go to phoenix, and you know I'm saying phoenix and all that.
Speaker 1:So when I was locked up I met this guy. He was from sunny slope. This is back in the 90s and at the time mesa was pretty I mean I'm from mesa, so it was like for me mesa was a bunch of mormons Mesa, so it was like for me Mesa was Bunch of Mormons.
Speaker 2:Well, it was the meth capital of Arizona. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And I met this guy from Sunny Slope and we got this little argument about he saying Sunny Slope was the meth capital. I'm like you ain't been to.
Speaker 2:Mesa. You ain't been to Mesa, buddy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And you look at it Probably pretty bad for drugs right now. You know what I mean. It's all over, man, I used to live all over, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:When I moved to El Mirage, I was living right on the corner of Mesa Driving University.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's my hood bro, that's our hood bro. It's a blue house right next to the. I think it's a Jiffy Lube or tire shop right there. It's a blue house right there. Louvre tire shop right there. It's a blue house right there. I used to live right there in that blue house right there. You can see it right now today. I grew up on Hornet Avenue. Dude, that's right there, right there bro.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's where I was. I was over there, man, and I was on Alma School as well. I don't know what school that is Mesa. What college is that right there? Mesa Community?
Speaker 2:College. Mesa Community is South and Southern.
Speaker 3:I used to live over there too, man. I lived in Chandler man I lived all over the East Valley. That's where my dad was living in the East Valley, so I got to move in the East Valley. You feel me.
Speaker 1:We moved to Phoenix to be around him, man, I still found people out there too. I'm telling you Back to that mindset, man.
Speaker 2:I still found people out there too. I'm telling you Back to that mindset.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. If he wasn't right, you'll find him.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter where you go, you'll find it if you look hard enough.
Speaker 3:But that was just me. My dad always knew like I would come out and he'd say you ain't going to be here for long. My dad knew me, my dad he let his kids stay with him as grown Nah y'all. But he know me, he always. If I need to go live With him right now, he know oh he ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 1:He ain't gonna be here For like a month. He just needs to regroup. Yeah, he out, he out.
Speaker 3:Son, you need somewhere to stay.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Thank.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 3:I haven't lived With my parents in years, but you know what I'm saying, but yeah, man, I always Was gonna get to, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sure, so you live. So you come to Arizona hustling. Yeah, you get locked up in Arizona. Oh yeah, arizona's one of them states that gets you buddy, I've been locked up in Arizona. We got a model. Come here on vacation leave on probation.
Speaker 3:Leave on probation. Yeah, I've been locked up here in Arizona a few times. Amen, you know what I'm saying. So the.
Speaker 2:So the you said you had Ten kids and three grandkids. Yeah, so are these all With the same woman or you got a lot?
Speaker 3:of Babies and mamas? Of course not. I got six baby mamas. Okay, alright, are you?
Speaker 2:Currently married.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm married. I've been married for ten years. Congratulations. Yeah, man, I've been married man.
Speaker 2:Wow, what up, babe, would you say. That's, uh, probably one of the best decisions you ever made. Man is is saying yes of course.
Speaker 3:Yeah, amen, as a wife. He finds good things in the show yeah, I'm still.
Speaker 2:I'm still believing for mine, man.
Speaker 1:So you said you said you came to arizona when you were like 24 well around that age. You're 40 now so you said you left and came back a couple times. Yeah, what made you kind of stay here this long?
Speaker 3:Even though you left and came back.
Speaker 1:I mean, it seems to be.
Speaker 3:Because I had connections out here. You know what I'm saying. I knew I could move out here and everything I was state to state. I could move in Arizona, I could move in Kentucky, I could move in this place and that place.
Speaker 1:So I really loved Arizona, but I don't no more.
Speaker 2:The summers get hot man. No, I ain't even about the summers, it's just.
Speaker 3:Arizona was such a beautiful place.
Speaker 2:It's just so saturated now, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's just weird. Like I loved Arizona, you feel what I'm saying. Like now, I'm just like, eh, it's starting to be overgrown. Right right, it was different back some years ago. It was so different.
Speaker 2:Like you had a different feel.
Speaker 3:You know Arizona was super super dope, but now it's just saturated man, I'm like you, I moved to the outskirts.
Speaker 1:I'm in the Southeast.
Speaker 3:Valley. We're in Santan.
Speaker 2:Valley man and it's starting to grow out there. It's just more saturated man.
Speaker 3:And Arizona always Arizona is and y'all are Arizonians, but Arizona really doesn't have any Arizona culture.
Speaker 1:It's everything. It's a mix, a melting pot. It's people from everywhere. You got Minnesota. You got Wisconsin, you got.
Speaker 3:Chicago you got just people from all over. So Arizona never really had.
Speaker 1:That's why our Cardinals can't get nothing going because it's so filled up with everybody else. Fair weather fans.
Speaker 3:Listen don't get me started on the Cardinals man. I got two songs for the Cardinals. I made two songs for the Cardinals?
Speaker 2:Oh, come on.
Speaker 3:And the organization. They're a cool organization man. I've did some work with them.
Speaker 1:That's awesome man.
Speaker 3:But it's just like man Arizona.
Speaker 2:It's frustrating bro, they need to stop celebrating. It's frustrating.
Speaker 3:They need to play when they get in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:play with your game faces on and stop celebrating we made it Right and then it's over. Yeah, we went to the.
Speaker 2:I've been living it for years, bro. It's hell. We went to the Minnesota.
Speaker 1:Vikings game last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my God, the whole stadium was purple.
Speaker 1:It was purple bro.
Speaker 2:All we were hearing was Skol, skol. I'm like this is crazy yeah man.
Speaker 3:So you know there ain't no such thing as home field advantage for the.
Speaker 1:Are you a sports fan?
Speaker 3:Not really.
Speaker 1:Not really Okay, you feel me.
Speaker 3:Not really, man.
Speaker 1:I'm at the point now where I can take it or leave it, right. I mean, I'll watch a game with someone.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. I done heard a lot of people like man. I heard your song in the stadium, man.
Speaker 2:I remember this and this, and this.
Speaker 3:Really man like yeah, I remember one time, man, my first song I did for the Cardinals. I'm in the parking lot, you know what I'm saying, my brother, he got a 69 Camaro and it's a Cardinals Camaro. You feel what I'm saying? I was in the parking lot with him, my cousin, he was with me. He was like man do you hear that that's the song I'm. I'm like, bro, get away from me bro that's not the song.
Speaker 1:You feel me, he's like, bro. It's a song. They playing it in there, bro, I'm like bro.
Speaker 3:No, they not later on that night on the news, wow they, they showed my video and he's like hey I heard you was played on the, on the, on the scoreboard, and then I'm like what I said, because you was telling the truth, like I was outside. So yeah, and it costs money to get on that scoreboard like that, the big uh screen up in there, I'm like what I said because you was telling the truth, like I was outside in the parking lot.
Speaker 3:And it costs money to get on that scoreboard like that, the big screen up. In there people pay thousands of dollars for that, but they play my video and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So, man, God has been God's favor again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, god's been blessing us man, and I don't got to. You know, once again I got the number one Dodger song in the country right now as well. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Dodger song.
Speaker 3:On social media. You feel me.
Speaker 2:I'm not a real big sports fan, but God has used me to, you know, like songs for sports teams. Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:I love you bro, but I won't listen to that. Yeah, Dodgers suck.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker 1:They pay good money, y'all One person. One person ain't going, ain't too bad, it's okay, I'll listen to it. Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, but you know, and it was crazy when they went, when they won the championships. Yeah, bro, you know what I'm saying? That's what was crazy. I'm not Like. I said I made the song Because One of my brothers Asked me to make the song for him. He got a Dodgers car as well. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So it was themed these songs were you made the song before they won?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then they win.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, wow, these songs were theme songs to his cars.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow, but they were just sports themed Wow.
Speaker 1:And then they just took off. You know what I'm saying? Just took off. If you need any exhaust, let me know. Yeah, that's what he does, man Cars bro, I do exhaust on cars, bro, that's what he does. Hey, I got hey.
Speaker 2:We gonna build cars one day.
Speaker 3:Hey, we'll talk when I leave.
Speaker 2:I told you it was a kingdom connection. I'm about three years away from owning this business that I work at bro, Owning it bro, and it's an s10 blazer with a corvette corvette
Speaker 1:engine, corvette suspension here's the thing we're gonna have to redo the rear frame to put independent rear suspension. I ain't seen an s10 blazer with an independent rear suspension in it yet, so I'm gonna cut up the frame that the independent rear suspension. But I want to get it to where I can get those big fat corvette tires up under the body. Yeah, so I'm gonna have to narrow it up a little bit because I want somebody to get behind it and see a corvette tire on it, but it's gonna have corvette drivetrain I look like a blazer, but it's gonna be a blazer.
Speaker 3:It's called blaze. That, bro. Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2:Hey, you better quit saying yeah you feel me, but yeah, that's a great one so yeah, not really a big sports fan, Okay man, but you know You'll watch a game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll watch a game man. And you know my son, he likes soccer man.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know that's the number one sport in the world, bro.
Speaker 3:I've coached you know what I'm saying. Cool and stuff like that. But yeah, man so.
Speaker 2:So earlier you were Sorry. Go ahead Earlier you were talking man About. You said I don't. I forgot the exact words you said, but it sounded like you were coming to the end of yourself.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no, what I said was I had to come to the end of my. I had to come to myself Meaning like Cause y'all had asked me like what was the big Shabang, what was the big shebang, what was the you know? And I just had to come to myself and start being obedient.
Speaker 1:You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Even though it was trials and tribulations still today. But you know, god requires the obedience is better than the sacrifice, and the word says that that Jesus learned obedience by the things he suffered.
Speaker 2:What what was there? A moment, was there a situation? Was there a word from god? What was it that caused the turn? I just got tired, sick and tired of being sick and tired to be honest.
Speaker 3:I got tired of being on the side of the road with a will work for full sign when I know I'm a king. That's really what it what it boiled down to. I knew I was going to sit down for a second and I knew I was. You know what I'm saying. I felt that I knew, but it wasn't. People be like oh, you got to jail and change. Jail will make you worse than before you went in prison will make you worse.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm worse unless you get rehabilitated. It'll feed that it'll right.
Speaker 3:So no, it wasn't happening like that. It's just I got tired and said you know what? I'm not choosing, that I'm done amen and even though you know you still go through the things you went through, it's shaky at first you fixing the car. Since you do cars, you know you. At least that month started up.
Speaker 2:Okay, now I gotta fine tune this gotta do this and do that, but it started, though it's a process, you know what I'm saying. So that's where I was at, okay, and how old were you when that happened around? Do you remember? Um, because since then, since about 30 something.
Speaker 3:Okay, 30. Wow, you know what I'm saying 30, 20, 28. Yeah, no, I actually. I was 29 years old, 29.
Speaker 2:You know how.
Speaker 3:I remember that Because Jesus was 29 when his ministry started and when I realized I was sitting down like dang Jesus is 29. His ministry started and I was 29 years old, so that's how I remember Amen. I was sitting down like dang Jesus, 29 is the ministry started and I was 29 years old. So that's how I remember Amen.
Speaker 2:I was 29 years old. I was the same way man. They sent me out and kicked me out. I'm in Teen Challenge at 29. Yeah, 29 years old, and I finished at 30. And it was like, oh, my ministry started, yeah, but yeah, in God's timing, man, wow, okay, yeah, man, all right, so 10 years, you've really been sold out and it's all him, whatever you want today, God do it Well, let me say.
Speaker 3:Let me say, I would say about 13 years, 14. Okay, I would say about 13. Okay, you know what I'm saying about. 13. Yeah, you know what I mean. But God was always there, so I mean he used me Every time. This last time I was, you know, Locked up, locked up Over a hundred guys Getting life to the Lord.
Speaker 2:Come on, man, it was.
Speaker 3:It was people In the AB. I don't like black people, but I love you yeah.
Speaker 2:You feel me. That's how you know God's working, this dude Big.
Speaker 3:Mike working. This dude big mike. You feel me? This dude big mike, big mike used to run a lot of yards and stuff like that, bro, and and and he, I would pray for him and I would, you know, talk to the, the, the cartel and there and people like, and I would just pray for them, bro, but I was real street with it.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like you know what I'm saying like I was just trying all churchy right, yeah I would.
Speaker 3:I would be like I wouldn't condemn nobody. Amen, you got a choice, so I'm not always use me, but you know, it was just I was tired. Yeah, you get tired and weary the worst is being transformed by the renewing of your mind and you just quit. You just get tired of the same side man. So I just got tired, and because I knew it would have been a different thing if I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing, but I knew you are, you know, so you just settle and even though you know what you was supposed to be doing, supposed to be doing, and you're not doing it, so I just got tired I was different.
Speaker 1:I was 26 in prison doing my five year bid and I was literally at a crossroad because my opportunities were being offered to me and it was like is that really the road I want to go down?
Speaker 2:you know what I mean yeah, once you make that choice. Yeah, because I knew that's, that's you're in for life. You know what I mean blood in, blood out and uh, that's when I met his mom.
Speaker 1:She was my pen pal crazy.
Speaker 2:He's in prison. She's in jail.
Speaker 1:She started, she was talking to me about god. I didn't grow up in church, I didn't, you know, I mean I don't have none of that background, right, and I'm just like like, okay, I got this choice I gotta make here, you know, I mean, and something would not let me make the choice to go the direction that I was heading. Something said find something else. You know, I mean right, and it wasn't god that I found it was also true was the first thing that I found right, you know, I mean which, that, uh, finally picking up a bible, right, and it was in that moment of reading that bible that like I'm, that's when I felt, god, right, I felt peace reading that bible and I'm like this is what I'm looking for, dude, you know, I mean, and, um, I went back. I went back a couple times, dude, you know, I mean I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't like I just had this miraculous moment with god and everything changed.
Speaker 3:It was a process.
Speaker 1:It was a start, though yeah, he began working on me, man, and now I knew about him. You know what I mean, and it was. I remember this part where it said you'll be judged according to your knowledge and I was like, damn, I should never pick, but's why? Remember when I?
Speaker 3:said with knowledge comes responsibility, just because you know now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I wrestled with God for probably another 10 years man. You know what I mean Still trying to smoke weed and go to church and choosing the weed over church. It literally got to a point. Brother, the last time I went to prison I had to walk away. I have kids now and I had to walk away from my kids.
Speaker 1:It crushed me, dude. I was like this is not what I want to keep doing, right? And I remember I went to this jail cell and I was just like, okay, god, you know. I mean, if you're really real, I need to know, you know. I mean and this is what he told me, dude, he said if you don't build your life upon the rock, my son, jesus Christ, these patterns will continue. And I was like whoa, because I heard it clear as day bro, you know what I mean Blew me away. And I remember calling my wife and telling her hey, this is the way I'm going. You know what I mean, I'm all in with this. You know what I mean. And I haven't turned back since, brother.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing, man, you know, making a choice. Like I said, my parents' salvation wasn't my salvation. I had to choose them on my own, and that's what it was Amen.
Speaker 1:So I mean, was it just a choice you made and things changed and you began to live different, or how did that work?
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, I got to. I said I knew, but before I even got locked up or anything I knew God had already spoke to me. I didn't know how, I didn't know when. He already let me know that you're going to sit down for a second and I was happy yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ain't that the truth? I wasn't mad, I wasn't angry, I mean at first I was angry.
Speaker 3:I'm like this is some crap.
Speaker 2:But then I was like Thank you God you saved me.
Speaker 3:I was like, once I got out of the Matrix, I was. You know what I'm saying. Once I got out of the Matrix you know what I'm saying I was good, like, okay, I'm straight, that process is just meant for you To wear you out and drain you so leading up to to a plea deal, all that whole matrix, slop this this that it's all to mess with your mom yes, sir, it's to break it, it is it's you to sign
Speaker 2:so you'll get a number and they'll get some money. Exactly, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1:Like so you know.
Speaker 3:So I knew what was going to happen, but I just made the choice already.
Speaker 1:Like okay, man, like I'm done, I'm done bro, like you know Well, you've been hustling for a while, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know a long time, long time Dec, a long time, a long time, decades.
Speaker 3:And I had recently got custody of my two-year-old son. You know what I'm saying it was just like the kids.
Speaker 2:The kids will straighten you up too, man yeah.
Speaker 3:It was just like bro, this is stupid. Yeah, this ain't even me Like damn. You know what I mean. Like you know, I'm just tired, that's it.
Speaker 1:So what did it look like after that moment? Brother, Give us an idea what the process was.
Speaker 3:I started really walking in my calling because I was already doing what you know. Like I said, I was praying for people and helping people. But I started seeing like dang, okay, lord, you want to really?
Speaker 2:use me. So did you go back to? Are you plugging in at Dad's Tempe Church?
Speaker 3:When I got out this last time. Yeah, you feel me Okay, but before I got locked up, I was going to church, I was in the streets. We would go to. My dad used to have a church on Mill and Southern, so we would go from. You know what I'm saying. We used to go from. We would be on Mill Ave. I sold a lot of records. I sold a lot of records on Mill.
Speaker 2:Ave records like my.
Speaker 3:I sold a lot of records on mill avenue my my boy on fat burger on mill avenue. His name was marcus and he used to tell me like this fat burger, tell everybody that this is your fat burger, so these kids won't tear up my place. Yeah, because I used to be there on the patio all the time. Police knew me, everybody knew me selling my albums. So he said, hey, this is your fat burger. Yeah, so I would tell everybody this is my fat burger. I'm the owner and they would all Police knew me.
Speaker 3:Everybody knew me Selling my albums. So he said, hey, this is your Fatburger. So I would tell everybody this is my Fatburger, I'm the owner.
Speaker 2:And they would all People On their mind In their P's and Q's, they would know it's third. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:You feel me, and it would have been. I used to have Bloods and Crips Out there with me All united. Have Mexicans out there white people, all United just standing in front of Fat Burger, like that was a spot just standing and chilling in front of Fat Burger man, and the police would just ride past and be like they even had a meeting, a city meeting, a council meeting. Like hey, when these guys are out here we don't have no problems, right? So they let me stay out there. They knew I was making money.
Speaker 1:They knew I was doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was doing some extra stuff too, but when I was out there, there ain't no problems going on they knew it was like the crime and everybody like we was basically policing like hey, no, Neighborhood watch Right, right, right. Y'all need to chill out man Come holla at me Come stand right here, you know. So they would know they would be like what up.
Speaker 2:You know the police on the horses and stuff. They would know who he was.
Speaker 3:And they would just let us stay, Because they could have been like where's your peddler's license or where's your taxi information?
Speaker 2:They didn't ever do that.
Speaker 3:They knew what we was doing out there all the time. But yeah, I was going to my dad's church as well, man.
Speaker 2:I think, what I really? Because it sounds to me, man, like you said, bro, you've known of God for your whole life man. You've always believed Jesus because you were taught it from a young kid man, and I think that's why it's so important to have your young kids in the house so they can get poured into or even at your house, but you're just pouring into them as kids so that the faith and the belief can grow with them, my three-year-old son, right now.
Speaker 3:if I tell him to pray for you, he'll pray for you.
Speaker 2:Man, then you're doing. Good, you're doing what God's called you to pray for you. Man, then you're doing good, you know, so you're doing, you're doing what god's called you to do with that family of yours, man my kids know the word, man, it's still growing in the word and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I reward them off of the word and you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:scripture memorizations, and they get a go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, they pray for yes pray for their teachers and all kind of stuff they. They rock the God over everything. The school and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:So, like people know you know what I'm saying, even though you know we're humans. But that's not an excuse. Realest thing my dad ever told me man. He said I was locked up and I was like man. You ain't never told me about this. He was like son. I didn't know how and that stuck with me, man. So now I know how. Now I want to know how. Yeah, you know he did the best of his. I don't have. No, I got my brothers and sisters, since you know I love all my brothers and sisters. But you got brothers and sisters sometimes like, oh, it's because of you mom, it's because of you dad.
Speaker 3:You didn't, I would be lost. Yeah, I wouldn't have accomplished all the things that I have accomplished today.
Speaker 2:You wouldn't be here. You should have been gone a long time ago in those streets, man, a long, long time ago, a long time ago. But God's had his hand on you, carrying you through this thing. Yeah, I think, man, we've got your faith. Yeah, we've heard a lot of how you kind of just came to the place where you was just sick and tired of being sick and tired and eating the pig slop and it's like, man, I know you got more from me, god, yeah. And so you get out of jail. You get or no? You get out of prison, you get out of jail. You got out of jail. Um, you go back, you're plugging plug, really plugging in the church, really plugging in the community. I, I would like to know. Third, how? Because I've seen through social man, yeah, you're these relationships with some of these people that you got, bro, how did god do this, man, just from your obedience in these musics? Yeah, these people reach out and they're like, hey, I want to do a track with you. Yeah, are you serious?
Speaker 3:I mean wow. I mean, uh, my boy said something last time. I was just with him. The streets say real, recognize real. But in the kingdom, faith, recognize faith. Ooh, you feel me? Don't steal that either.
Speaker 2:You're going to make me a shirt with that bro.
Speaker 3:They're coming soon. You feel me. So faith recognize faith. So when you feel that Holy Spirit and you move and you know you're like wait, wait, wait, wait, you can feel it man, what's up with you? You feel what I'm saying so the word says you want friends, show yourself friendly. You got a lot of mean people in church. They'll mug you.
Speaker 2:Man, church people suck you. Feel me, so just me support I man, church people suck you feel me so, just me supporting.
Speaker 3:I've always been the type of person even in the streets man I would show respect first. I never demanded respect, even though my presence demanded that. I would always break the ice by saying hey, man, how you doing man.
Speaker 2:God bless you.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying I would never walk around with pride, thinking I'm just this dude. Even other people Would be like you don't know who that is.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Like they would.
Speaker 3:They would tell people that about me Like hey bro, that's. You feel me, but I never. I've always been.
Speaker 2:That golden rule man, treating other people as you want to be treated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man. So I just you know, that's just what it's been, you know, and I've just been connecting with people organically. See, you got these people in the kingdom right now.
Speaker 2:Speak on it, bro, trying to make it, force it, manipulate it? Speak on it, bro.
Speaker 3:These people in the kingdom right now. They trying to attach to this person, attach to that person. What can I get from this person? And if I go over here, what can he do for my ministry? And it's not organic and after a while you begin to see, like this person Don't care, this person Only out for themselves.
Speaker 3:You feel me so but all my, I always come in Anything like how can I help you? Not, but it's kind of Wary about that situation. People Too, because people Try to do that to see to say, oh, I did this for them person. But no, I'm just like god has made me very resourceful and a lot of people come to me for you could be looking for a 1965, uh, a baseball card and be like, hey call, third, I bet you he know where it's at, man just get stuff right.
Speaker 3:So I've always been resourceful and I always want to help people, and I'm a kingdom financer and a kingdom builder and I like building people and helping people. Yes, I've been beat on a whole lot because people don't even appreciate it, but it doesn't take away the fact that's real man. You know what I'm saying. If you wanted just to see your brothers and sisters prosper with their ministries and stuff like that. So it's just what does it say?
Speaker 1:Celebrate with them, celebrate with them.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and that and that's my thing. Uh, he asked me man, let me see your face. But how you know all these people, bro, because I show respect first, I don't demand it from people about you and tell people about you and tell people it's word of mouth. Yeah, relationships.
Speaker 1:Let's not your own lips praise you, but let another man yeah, yeah. So when you're right and you're treating people right, it gets around that. Hey man, that dude's a real one, who treats people good. Integrity come on.
Speaker 3:We stand on integrity come on and sometimes your integrity with people they will is you got people nowadays in the kingdom. I ain't even gonna say the kingdom, I'm gonna say the church, because the kingdom and the church is two different things.
Speaker 2:And the church.
Speaker 3:They see you full of integrity.
Speaker 2:They see people.
Speaker 3:God giving you favor, but they think it's too good to be true, so they will try to.
Speaker 1:Or why him? Why'd he get that?
Speaker 3:And they'll create a situation.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Man. Even though it's a lie, they'll create a situation Right. And you know what I'm saying. But guess what? We battle not against flesh and blood. So we got to just continue to Humble ourselves and God lifts us up. And say Lord, how, how can I love this person as you love them you?
Speaker 1:know what I'm saying. It's good. It's good. Man, pray for your enemies. Man Pray for those who persecute you. You know what I mean. How's your music changed? You said you would praise God in some of your old stuff. But is your stuff now more?
Speaker 2:The three albums on Spotify. Is that worldly stuff? Or is that God?
Speaker 3:No, god, I'm going gonna tell you like this God was in my music even back, but in my music is not enough. Yeah, god is my music. Yeah, that's the answer for you, amen you know what I'm saying being in you could be. You can have a little bit of this in something, and that'd be all the chips in. Come on, instead of putting all your chips on the table.
Speaker 1:So my music.
Speaker 3:My music is the ministry. Now, man the new album. The latest album is called the Donkey.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, that's good.
Speaker 2:The goat bro. No, no and.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you why it's called the Donkey. It's called the Donkey because Baylon beat his donkey three times. You got people out here who been asking God for a word and it doesn't come through the person or the source that they think it should come from, so they beat that person up?
Speaker 2:Who are you to tell me? Who are you to have that anointing?
Speaker 3:You got gold in your mouth. You got a chain on your neck. You can't tell me nothing. You got these sunglasses on. You can't tell me. And then they go in their prayer closet and ask God, and God be like you, remember, dude?
Speaker 2:That was an angel, you were entertaining. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:So get away from me.
Speaker 1:What does the Bible say? The men judge the outward appearance.
Speaker 3:God judges the heart. Yeah, so you know it was the donkey man. If you look at that story, balaam was so mad at the donkey. Look how you made me look and the angel angel said I would have killed both of y'all if it wasn't for that, donkey, yeah you feel what I'm saying, so we. We have to know that god can use anybody. So this album, the donkey, is the latest one I got videos I always.
Speaker 2:I always tell people, bro, if god can use a rock to speak to somebody, if he can use an ass, god can use me yeah, yeah, it's the truth man. It, it's the truth, bro.
Speaker 3:So just you know, just using my, I'm not a people say you a rapper, you a rapper. I say no, I'm not a rapper, Rapping is not my identity Rapping is just one of my tools.
Speaker 2:It's what I come on bro Rapping.
Speaker 3:being a rapper is just one of my tools.
Speaker 2:It's good.
Speaker 3:So that I can get the gospel out and the message out. Man, that's not my identity. It's one of your gifts. Yeah, I'm not. People say CHH Christian hip-hop. That's not me.
Speaker 2:I don't make music for Christians, I'm sorry I don't I make music for the lost.
Speaker 3:Come on, I make music for the sick.
Speaker 2:Yes to the choir.
Speaker 3:Amen. I'm not preaching to the choir jesus said it's not that healthy. That needs the doctor is to sit sick.
Speaker 2:You feel me, so I don't make music for christians. Yes, it is a lot of christians listen to it, of course, but that ain't who I'm going after come on man jesus said go out and make disciples of all nations.
Speaker 3:He didn't say sit in your church and make disciples go out into the world right, you know what I'm saying, so, so you know, I'm just
Speaker 3:I'm just using everything, whether it's a grill, whether it's a chain, whether it's a tattoo, whether whether it's a shirt, a sock, whatever I can whatever you can to use to share the gospel. People might ask me about it. Come on, man, you know what's that you know? Have you heard about jesus, though? Yeah, I heard todd white say something one time about his dreadlocks and he was like this is Ask me about it. Come on, man, you know what's that? Hey, have you heard about?
Speaker 1:Jesus, though. Yeah, I heard Todd White say something one time about his dreadlocks and he was like this is going to draw people in, this is going to create conversations with people who would normally not talk to me if they thought I was just a preacher. But, they're going to see the dreadlocks and they're going to be like hey, and it creates conversations, God conversations.
Speaker 2:God is going to use people like you, me, him, people like us man, we're tattooed up. I see tattoos on your faces.
Speaker 1:God's going to use people like us to confound those religious folks, you're right.
Speaker 3:He used himself Jesus Christ. Look what they did to Jesus.
Speaker 1:Christ.
Speaker 2:We know who you are.
Speaker 3:Isn't your father, joseph? We know, oh, you're not the Messiah. You know what I'm saying, so you know. Yeah, we use it everything we got. I don't care if it's a car I don't care people. People like to, people like to. Oh, you gotta do that. But you why? You sitting in your church judging you ain't in the streets, you ain't making no disciples. You sitting behind in your pew and in your church seat judging everybody else and you ain't even doing. How are you a Christian when you ain't even doing the things?
Speaker 3:that Jesus did on this earth.
Speaker 2:Man, but you say you a Christian though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you Christ-like yeah.
Speaker 3:You ain't Christ-like, you're not a Christian. You don't do nothing that the Messiah does. Man, yeah, you don't even love people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, does man. Yeah, you don't even love people, but you're a christian.
Speaker 3:You still got hate in your heart. You still make guilty of making this distinctions, but you're a christian. That's not christ-like at all that's real man.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I think that that's the just getting to heaven just by the skin on the teeth. Bro, I don't want that to be me, man. I'm making every move I can here now, yeah, yeah, depart from me.
Speaker 3:I forget who I forget.
Speaker 1:I forget who said it, but it said our goal is not to. Oh well, it was wordsmith, yeah it's not to get to heaven. Our goal is not to get to heaven, but to bring heaven. Here Come on.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Kingdom come.
Speaker 1:And I love that aspect because Jesus always said the kingdom's at hand, that means it's here. The kingdom is within you.
Speaker 3:It's here.
Speaker 2:Everywhere we go we bring it.
Speaker 1:Our goal is not to get to there. Our goal is to walk with heaven here and make disciples and draw people into the kingdom. Man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So let me get a Hold on yeah.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, buddy. I want to know how this got over. Everything came about, I told you.
Speaker 3:I was screaming it in the world.
Speaker 2:You feel me Something had to line up to where the clothes, the LLC, the storefront, all of it.
Speaker 3:What a close. How did?
Speaker 2:it mature into this thing.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you Did it start with like One shirt and then it just kind of grew, or it started in his music.
Speaker 2:I told you. That's what I'm saying. It started in his music God over everything. That's what I'm saying. Right, I was saying God over everything.
Speaker 3:You know, in the streets or whatever, but after I you know, became surrendered yeah. My brother rendered yeah, my brother, he does graphics, so he made the first god over everything logo. Then we started with that shirt, then god has just started the goe the goe with the prayer, yeah bro, so that was the original it was the original one, so not the one with the one.
Speaker 3:You might see with the that one. That was the next one, all right, so the one with the praying hands was first and then the one with the jesus in it was second. Yeah, then we got so many one, all right, so the one with the praying hands was first and then the one with the. Jesus in it was second yeah, then we got so many other ones, but now it's the one with the hands on fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the world.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying Right there, yeah, so but then me and my wife, you know, we started with that one shirt and then we just took off. And then one day, during covid, yeah as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I told my wife we needed a store and she was just like what the heck? We don't need no store. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:that's another bill the next day we had a store wow and sunny slope. Wow, in the middle of sunny slope. Come on, in the middle of covid, in the middle of covid we didn't get no loans, no ppps, no nothing. Yeah, to open the store, god, when? God says yes, yeah, god, put on my heart the next day we had it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. So that's what I'm talking about. And now we moved to 35th and Union Hills Wow, dude. And now we're just all across the country spreading the gospel. A lot of people they see us coming sometimes they be like oh, here come, Third with his tables. They don't realize that it ain't about the money. We're not money motivated, we're recipe motivated.
Speaker 2:We keep the recipe right, the money going to come automatically.
Speaker 3:We don't got to be money motivated. That's good. We bring our stuff, we bring our table and our setup to places we go because, first of all, it helps with our expenses. Second of all, people might not go up to the altar.
Speaker 2:but they'll come look at the table.
Speaker 3:They'll come see what's going on over there man, so many people done, got saved and gave their life to god from our table also. People, people get this twisted if people say you're making my father's house a robber's den let me tell you this about this people, if people no, I mean, I've heard people, you know it's real bro people are crazy.
Speaker 3:But listen to this if people were using the proceeds to help people, to save people, to bring people the gospel, to help build it, jesus would have walked past and not touch one table, but no people were out for selfish gain yes sir. But me and my wife, man, we have given away so much stuff to people. We have prayed for people, we have given away stuff to kids. We use our table as a rolling ministry.
Speaker 1:As well.
Speaker 3:Yes, it helps with what we need to help, but it's not like oh, I've always told my wife I've sold 60 000 copies on one album in the streets without a record deal. I've always told my wife, wow, I'm never gonna do this, so we gotta make money yes, it's fun doing. Like I said, I'm a hustler, I'm a grinder. It's fun watching people like yo. How much is this bro?
Speaker 2:hey, I like that shirt, yeah, yeah, all right, man, I got you. You hey get $250.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I know, bro, that's just my thing. You feel me.
Speaker 3:And then to hear somebody call me and be like bro. I was in Montreal, canada, and I said look at this picture. I saw somebody with a God over everything shirt on. That's priceless and people don't understand these things where we you know my wife wearing a shirt, a lady, you feel me working at Subway started crying because the shirt reminded her she needed to keep a God over everything. Just the testimonies that we hear from bringing it out. So you know it's not about the bread I pay my tithes.
Speaker 2:I help people.
Speaker 3:I got a song called what you Think, because I'm saved, I ain't supposed to be paid. What you think I'm supposed to be broke.
Speaker 1:And looking feeble Because you got that mindset.
Speaker 2:I pay my tithes. I don't value.
Speaker 3:None of this stuff. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm a king's kid man. I'm royalty.
Speaker 3:Exactly. And I say in the song I said J's on my feet, that yeah, you feel what I'm saying so but. But that's where it started from, and we just growing and growing. We got our own pet stuff. We got our own shout out kingdom center on perfume, cologne soaps uh, we got our own car stuff, uh, seat covers and some sun visors, all your apparels and stuff like that too. Yeah you, you saw about 10. Do you have a non-profit?
Speaker 2:or you have a non-profit too yeah, what's it called?
Speaker 3:God is over everything, global.
Speaker 2:So if somebody that's watching or listening and they want to come in and sow a seed in this kingdom ministry, how do they do that?
Speaker 3:They can get at me on Facebook, but also, if you got Zelle or something like that is um god is over everything global at gmailcom. Yeah, cool.
Speaker 1:We had a lady at our church. She was on our podcast a couple weeks ago, her name's heather. Uh, she was asking because I make sure she's a man. And she was asking I love wearing king. I told her about your store yeah, I'm like, oh, there's a store she has one. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:yeah, so she might be getting. She might be, yeah for sure for sure, sure, man, like I said, you can sow a seed, always, man, you can get at him. You can get at Rowdy, he'll tell you when to find me at. Yeah, I got you, but you know, Seeds make trees and we we cereal sowers, and trees make forests. Man.
Speaker 2:So we, we definitely it's all kingdom baby.
Speaker 3:We be in the streets helping people. We don't even our store. What people don't realize is You're feeding out front.
Speaker 2:I think you do it all, bro. We feed people. You do it all, man.
Speaker 3:We feed people, we clothe people Come on. We have Bible studies there, come on.
Speaker 2:You guys are. You're connected with Zippy and Cleo. You're getting people off the streets and into rehab. You guys urban outreach man, you guys are doing it.
Speaker 3:We do a whole lot for the community, man and people, man and people don't. We don't even tell half of the story, not even 10% of the stories of what happens in our store. Famous people come in there. I'm talking about doctors, lawyers, common folk, just, you know, people with addictions.
Speaker 3:people just need somebody to talk to and we do all that from the store as well, so you know, we just invite people and, like, I tell people, I tell people this all the time. I know that you're busy, I know, get through to the store it's not about making you giving us a sale or money. I tell everybody when you buy anything from us. Anyway you're not spending money, you're sowing a seed anyway.
Speaker 2:And we're good ground.
Speaker 3:But also what I'm saying is get through to people. We've done had people I have a dude that catches the bus to the store at least once or twice a week. Take a three-hour ride. Dude just took an hour ride today on the bus to get there. I've had people come in from Nebraska. I've had people drive all the way from Maricopa. People drive all the way from out of the state. A dude came from Alaska to come over to the shop.
Speaker 2:Bro, it's an experience bro, that just takes everybody's excuses. You say you're family and friends, you ain't got the shop bro, it's an experience. Bro, that just takes everybody's excuses.
Speaker 1:You say you're family and friends. You ain't got no excuses, bro.
Speaker 2:Homie drove from Alaska. You can drive an hour dude I try to tell people this.
Speaker 3:You come to the store. You have to ring a doorbell to get into the shop anyway. Everybody just can't walk in there, you feel me Okay, and what I tell you, it be breakthroughs. And we just chill, we just talk, we just the holy. People have come, unbelievers have walked in the store because our new store and they like being you know nosy, what y'all got in here, man bro, it feels different in here. What the heck Come on. It was a tattoo shop the last time and it was just like dark and evil.
Speaker 3:Here now we looking at all feels so good make you pray for me man you know, you know so.
Speaker 2:I'm a champion where I be telling people just to come to the shop.
Speaker 3:Even though I got people, man, I'm telling you, I got people who drove from Chandler, how people came from Flagstaff, came from the reservations, came from New Mexico, bro, chicago, bro, who's came from all over the country just to come to the store, bro, just to pull up.
Speaker 2:Just to pull up, bro, and be like bro I came here Vegas.
Speaker 3:There's people supporting All over the country Supporting us. So it ain't even about the church. They just seeing what Me and my wife is doing.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:God over everything Global Kingdom sent, and just All the Ministries that we're connected to, what we're doing for people, bro, it's a lifestyle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so good, bro, lifestyle.
Speaker 1:That's so good. I love what you're doing bro, yeah, I appreciate it. It's really a blessing, dude, to see somebody just taking what God has given them and doing the work, bro, doing the work. So many people think that this walk is just about coming to church on Sunday. You know what I mean, and it ain't. You know what I mean? We used to do jail ministry. We used to do food stuff.
Speaker 2:Park, ministries, all that kind of stuff, man.
Speaker 1:It was very rewarding and very challenging at the same time, but it was also what we believed God was asking us to do. You know what I mean? And church is not the four walls, it's out there. Hey look, we're called to reach the lost, the broken, the sick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:You're right, man, church is just the headquarters it is.
Speaker 1:I tell people that all the time.
Speaker 3:Church is the barbershop when shop. When is the last time you got a haircut at the barber?
Speaker 1:and went and sat back in the waiting room. Let me tell you this when is the last?
Speaker 3:time you went to the gas station, filled up your tank and sat in the parking lot.
Speaker 1:You feel me. When is the last time you got discharged from the?
Speaker 2:hospital and went and sat back in the waiting room. Please tell me you come to church, you get filled up, you get encouraged and go you, please tell me. You come to church, you get filled up, you get encouraged.
Speaker 1:And go, you fill up and you pour out, and then, you go make disciples.
Speaker 3:Come on so many people have gotten comfortable In the church. Because they're scared, to be honest.
Speaker 2:They're scared Not everybody.
Speaker 3:But a lot of people are scared To go back out there how you get clean and you ain't going back out there and telling others how they can get clean and you ain't going back out there and telling others how they can get.
Speaker 2:Well, they're not only scared. There's, honestly, man, there's a lot of church people, bro, that don't know how they really don't and, but they don't but they're not. They're not inquiring yeah, because we will show them man, exactly, they're not a comment yeah like I told you, my dad told me he didn't know how.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's not an excuse. Yeah, and that was the realest thing he ever told me.
Speaker 1:Now I took that and said I'm gonna know how yeah, I'm gonna know how we were, we were at this point where we were wanting to start doing a park minister outreaches and stuff, and we literally got to a point where we went to one of our pastors and we're like, hey, what do I do to start and how do we do this? You know, I mean and they're like well. One of them was like well, we don't really have that kind of need here, but just go start it, you know, I mean. And so we, we did, we went, got a food food account midwest food bank with our 501c3 that we have.
Speaker 1:We started getting food. We started driving through neighborhoods handing out flyers. We'll be at the park if you guys want to come. We're gonna have a barbecue and some some worship, and we just started doing it, man and that's when you ask me how do you know these people, how you get connected with these people?
Speaker 3:you just got to do it you don't even think about it. So many people just spend too much time thinking about it you feel me, and they're stinking or disqualifying themselves so me, and me and my wife also help other nonprofits and stuff like that. Get them started showing them, because a lot of people got nonprofits and don't even know what to do with it. You know what I'm saying. So we help a lot of people as well. We're just encouragers, man. We esteem another side of ourselves, man.
Speaker 2:You know, somebody's always going to have an opinion about you but an going to have an opinion about you, but yeah, but the opinion ain't the truth. Come on, our goal is discipleship poems. Yeah, of course. Yeah, speak life, man. We, this is a non-profit, it's a 501c3. Um, I myself, man, being saved through teen challenge. Um, going out into california, uh, through living word christian center, living word harvest. Yeah, um, the men's homes, man, it's like victory outreach, victory life.
Speaker 3:I'm a little word yeah, and one of my good friends out there, queen Creek, ryan Beck.
Speaker 2:I was with him for three years, bro. That was my pastor man I know, Ryan Beck.
Speaker 3:I know a couple of living words.
Speaker 2:There's one in Maricopa, texas. Pastor Chris in Maricopa, that's my dude.
Speaker 1:It's a small world man. I know these cats man. Yeah, he's the reason we're doing this, brother, that's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, me and MC Magic went on Chris' podcast.
Speaker 1:You feel me Be encouraged.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man have me on there, and that's how I met Pastor Chris. Wow, third Wow.
Speaker 2:You need to Tell Magic to come on here, bro, and share his story, man.
Speaker 3:Magic, that's my partner. Yeah, that's my brother, what up Magic? He in the shop all the time. Man, we, we family man that's like and I've been discipling him, man, and you know we speaking to each other's life and we just, you know we family. You know what I'm saying. We got songs together and stuff, but it's more than just songs and stuff You're doing life together bro. Yeah, we really fellowship. And you know, and I say discipling him because you know, when I met him, god just told me to help him and be there for him and just speak the word to them and just encourage them in the
Speaker 1:word. You feel what I'm saying, so that's why I say that I got to have a cheesy moment real quick. One of my favorite dudes of all time, bro, I think you had a meet and greet at your shop here recently.
Speaker 3:Seven.
Speaker 2:I knew that I love you dad. He loves seven in his rap bro, I love that dude's music.
Speaker 1:He loves 7 and his rap. Bro, I love that dude's music bro I was going through this Stage in life where I was coming off of secular music Into Christian music.
Speaker 2:But then he wanted Jesus rap.
Speaker 1:And then I'm like okay, I appreciate this music, but I like he likes bass, bro, he likes rap. First thing I found was seven bro. Yeah, hog mom, yeah hog mom, you know what I mean. And so it was seven.
Speaker 2:It was brian trejo it was uh bizzle, yeah word smith when they did the hope deal yeah neighborhood.
Speaker 1:Hope you know what I mean. All that stuff, that stuff got me through the crucial part of my well y'all need to come.
Speaker 3:Hey look, I gotta put this on a podcast. Well, y'all need to come. Hey look, I got to put this on a podcast right now. Y'all need to come to Faith Over Fear number eight Next month.
Speaker 2:You feel me Seven going to be there. Man, I'm going to be there. You feel me you going to be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, come on now Me.
Speaker 3:Seven Dante Jay McAllister Nameless. Britt there faithful of a fear, my god, jay mccallister, man holding it down.
Speaker 2:So I gotta put that plug in for him then we going to uh, uh, three yards come on. You know, you ever heard. You ever heard.
Speaker 3:You know who gary deets is gary d. Yeah. Yeah, that's my dude grumpy you feel me yeah, that's my dude. We going to prison with him and we got we got, uh, my guy Prince Infinite. You know what I'm saying From.
Speaker 2:Hog.
Speaker 3:Mob. He was the Leader in the Latin Kings.
Speaker 2:You feel me so.
Speaker 3:Hog, mob, dante, seven Garrett. We going into Bachman, yep, really we're going into you guys, going into A couple of Steiner, yeah. You guys gonna be to be in Lewis, yeah, lewis, yeah. We're going to be in a couple of them.
Speaker 2:He did some time there, bro. I remember writing letters from there, yeah, so I've been in the prison quite a few.
Speaker 1:I played as hell bro.
Speaker 3:We were just in there, me and Dante, with Rio Vida, a couple of months ago 1,500 dudes on a yard and only 300 jobs.
Speaker 1:What?
Speaker 3:do you?
Speaker 1:think is going to happen when 1,200 dudes got nothing to do? It's crazy, bro. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3:So we've been going in there. We've been doing it a lot.
Speaker 2:I've been to Red Rock.
Speaker 3:I've been in the prisons and all of that man and yeah, seven, that's my brother what?
Speaker 2:up Sev.
Speaker 3:You know we to ride it together with B man. Pray for Brian. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Man, bro, just pray for him. I'm praying for Duke, bro, just praying for him.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 2:I said, all things work together for the good and for those who love.
Speaker 3:God, I've been quiet about it, but I've been quiet about it to people, but I've been talking to him and God.
Speaker 1:That's what he means, man Facebook page. I encourage them. God's going to use this to show people that he still redeems and restores. Yeah, we can come back For all those stone throwers. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Hey, snakes, pop their heads.
Speaker 1:Oh dude.
Speaker 3:It's all good, but guess what? That just gives us hope.
Speaker 2:That's where the family comes together, around the brother.
Speaker 1:In Celebrate Recovery, we have a verse that says that you who are led by the Spirit, restore that brother gently.
Speaker 3:That's the word. That's the word of God.
Speaker 1:It didn't say Throw stones at him.
Speaker 2:It didn't say Condemn him.
Speaker 1:It didn't say Stomp on him while he's down.
Speaker 3:It said Restore that brother, gently, I'm going to tell you this Without getting into much. Man B Is doing what he needs to do. Amen, okay, to do what he needs to do yeah.
Speaker 1:So he good, that dude got me through a lot too. He good, you feel me, you know.
Speaker 3:But I'm praying for all my brothers, as we should be praying for everybody.
Speaker 1:Amen.
Speaker 3:The main thing is and I'm going to tell you, like I said, I didn't come over here to talk about the kingdom music thing and I will not. But this is the main thing Work out your own salvation with fear.
Speaker 2:Hello, stop trying to work out other people's salvation.
Speaker 1:worry about the plank in your eye bud that's real man, really good brother, really good bro. Thanks for coming on. This has been very encouraging man no problem.
Speaker 3:And then you ain't gotta ask me the last question.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you the last what you hoping for, bro, I'm hoping for come on, I'm hoping for the lord's will to be done. It's only one place in the Bible where Jesus taught anyone how to pray. He prayed a couple of spots, but he said Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Speaker 2:For thine is the kingdom, power and the glory forever and ever. In jesus name, I pray man. That prayer people say it's the lord's prayer.
Speaker 3:It's not the lord's prayer. It's the disciples. If I give you a car, if I give you some keys to a car right now and say this is yours, that's not my car, no more yeah that's your car, yeah, so I'm hoping for the and I'm knowing it's inevitable, but the lord's will is going to be done. I just hope people put down their pride, their arrogance, their racism, put down their religiosity, their pharisaic ways, and let's team up and do what we're supposed to do for Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:And I'm just hoping for the Father's will to be done in my life and I'm hoping that I don't get. I can sit at y'all table that I don't get. I consider char table, but I don't get to the judgment table. And the Lord says the part. Yes, yeah, bro you did all these shows, you did all this. This is knowing all these people, but the perfect me. You work over iniquity because I had no relationship with you that's what I don't want, so I'm telling you this my hope is for people to get off the boo-boo.
Speaker 3:Come on, get off God's tent. Work out your salvation boys.
Speaker 2:I love you dude.
Speaker 3:Amen. Thank you guys, so all the listeners out there, man, hey, listen, read your word.
Speaker 3:Deny that flesh Be obedient. Ask God to change your appetite. Ask God for humility. God shows favor to the humble but opposes the proud. I'm telling you the king is on his way. You can find me on Instagram at goeglobal. My other page is GodOverEverythingGlobal. I have another page which is Third Day, and that's T-H-3-R-D-D-A-E. That's my Instagram, godovereverythingglobalcom. People ask me why is your name spelled like that? On Facebook, with T-H-I-R-D-D-A-E, they wouldn't let me put a three in my name. When I switched my name when I was locked up Whoa, when I switched my name when I was locked up, I had my brother. They used to call me.
Speaker 2:Coach, that's your real name now.
Speaker 3:No, no, no no, oh, okay. When I switched my name, my name was coach in the streets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had my brother put rest in peace coach on my page and it just went crazy people was like what he died.
Speaker 1:He got in trouble, like my dad, my sisters my mom like what the?
Speaker 3:heck, but I told him to put it so they wouldn't let me put the three in my name, but that is my name. Ask god to bless third day and watch what he do.
Speaker 1:Amen, come on, man you feel what I'm saying? Yeah, Amen.
Speaker 3:So I'm thankful for being here, man, and I thank y'all for inviting me, Of course brother.
Speaker 2:It's an honor bro you going to pray for him.
Speaker 1:I got this, bro, yeah, I knew you did buddy. He's really excited we're like man, bro, I've been waiting for this. Yeah, thank you Jesus Again. It was really an honor man. Thank you so much, truly. Thank you man most gracious Father, oh Jesus.
Speaker 1:Thank you, god, and we just acknowledge who you are. We acknowledge that you're a creator of heaven and the earth, you're the creators of Eddie and Rowdy and Third Day, and you are just an amazing, wonderful, loving Father and we just thank you, god. And Father, you've heard your son, you've heard his desire and his heart, god, that his simple request is that your will be done in his life. Father, god, lord, I just thank you for just this story that he just shared. God, just the way that we can see, through his testimony, god, how, even though your sons, who are raised with you and know you, god, how they can choose to just walk away. And I thank you, lord, that you are a God who never takes your hands off us, that you are always there with us and walking there with us and continuing to show favor and blessings in our lives, god.
Speaker 1:But I thank you, lord, that he came to a place where he was done with himself, god, that he laid down his life, god, and he picked up his cross and he said I'm going to live for you now, god. So I just thank you for God, over everything, global God.
Speaker 1:I thank you for just the blessing that it is God. We know that this is not a thing where it's a get-rich-thing, but it's a kingdom thing. God, so he can go and do ministry, that he can go and do these meet-and-greets with things that he does for his music, god.
Speaker 1:I thank you for the music, god, that's coming because he's not making Christian music. He's making music for the lost, the broken and the hurting, god, so they can know who you are. So I just pray for a supernatural anointing on that music, god, that those who are lost and broken can see you in the music, god, that it will turn their lives around, that they will be transformed by that music and come into a life-saving relationship with your son, jesus christ. God, jesus. So I just thank you, lord, for everything you did in this life. God, we just glorify you in his presence, lord, just for who he is now. God, thank you, lord. I thank you for what's to come. God, I just see this growing. I thank you for just everything that's going on. God, lord, I thank you for the next generation of believers that's being raised up in his household. Father, god, lord, I thank you that your word says that if we train up a child in the way that he shall go, that they shall not depart from it.
Speaker 1:God, so I thank you Lord that he's being an obedient father and he's raising his children up in the ways of God and to the word, so that, when they come to the time, to make their choice.
Speaker 2:God, they will not depart from it.
Speaker 1:But they will continue down the path of being disciples, thank you, lord but they will continue down the path of being people who will seek the lost and the broken, father God. So I thank you, lord, for the legacy that he's building, the legacy that he's setting forth, because your word says that a good parent leaves an inheritance for his grandchildren and his children's children, god, and I thank you that that inheritance is you, it's the faith in Christ, it's Christ over everything, god. So I thank you for that inheritance that's being built up and stored up right now so that when his kids have kids, god, that they will have this faith, that they will have this walk that they will lack in nothing.
Speaker 1:Father God, that they will know what it's like to go out and preach the gospel that they will know what it's like to go and make the disciples. God, they will know. So I thank you, lord, that they will know, they will know. And Father, I just thank you for his marriage. God, I pray, blessings over his household.
Speaker 3:Father God.
Speaker 1:I thank you for his wife and her ability to be a part of the ministry with him, god, and to encourage the man of God to continue to do what he does. So I thank you, lord, that, as he loves his wife, that Christ loves the church, god, and that she will serve him as the man of God that he is God. So I thank you for what you're doing in this life. I pray blessings, I pray favor. I pray that your will be done in Jesus name, amen.
Speaker 2:Hey, third, can you do me a favor, man, can you pray for a speak life and pray for me and dad, bro, yeah, just, whatever God's going to do with this thing, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, father, we just thank you. We just pray for your perfect will upon speak life Von Roddy and Eddie. Father God, we just ask you to open their ears, open their hearts and their minds. Father God, and let not this become an idol, father God. They use this platform, father God, to worship you and bring others Closer to you, father God.
Speaker 3:We just thank you for the wisdom that you have given them, Father God. Let them show them what to say and what not to say, how to feel and how not to feel. Father God, I ask you, Father God, to bless their finances, Father God, so they can get every piece of equipment that they need. Father God, and make their ministry bountiful, that they can help and serve others, Father God, Make them servant leaders, father God, and just continue using this platform as a tool for you.
Speaker 3:Father God, bless their families, Father God. Right now, father God, bring the people in their life who are supposed to be in their life, father God, and take those who are? Not supposed to be around, Father God. We rebuke any evil motives. We rebuke any famine, famine, famishness. Father god, we rebuke anything that is not of your will.
Speaker 3:Search their hearts and make these brothers, though, men of god, and husbands and fathers that you have called them to be father god. We just pray and we thank you for the uh, this church right now, for letting them use the facility father god to to do what they need to do, father god, and we just thank you and we just put uh, let your holy spirit be upon them today and forever. Thank you in jesus name, we pray man amen.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brother. Hey, everybody, I don't know where you're listening from, or you're probably watching on youtube, but, um, as you can see, it really all starts with the relationship with jesus christ. He loves you, he, he died for you, he forgave you on that cross for all your sins, everything in the past, everything today, everything that's going to come, but it all starts with us. In Romans, chapter 10, verse 9 and 10, it talks about believing in our heart and confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord. It says you shall be saved because we believe under righteousness, we confess under salvation. You are saved, but until next time, man, if you yourself want to come on the Speak Life AZ podcast, you can reach out. We're on X, instagram, facebook, speak Life AZ. All one word Please continue to pray for the ministry guys and, of course, pray for Third and everything that God's going to do in his life. Until next time, we're going to continue to speak life AZ. God bless you.
Speaker 1:Jesus.