JP 0:26
We've done the teach and the reference cards have been handed out. It is of course, Whose Turn Is It Anyway?, the podcast focused all around the adventures of our gaming group. I'm JP, your current first player. And in this episode, I'm joined by other players Becky and Adrian to talk about getting started in the hobby. How's everyone doing?
Becky 0:42
Yeah.
Adrian 0:42
All good.
Becky 0:42
Thank you.
JP 0:43
Yeah, been up to anything exciting.
Becky 0:45
Well did receive a really really nice blinging upgrade for Wingspan
JP 0:50
I've heard about this, not heard about this I've seen them
Becky 0:52
It's all your fault, so you can't blame anybody else.
JP 0:55
All I've got to do for you to buy wooden meekly components is just comment on an Etsy store.
Becky 1:01
Oooh look at this. Yeah, and then me and Kerley are on it. And then it was a kind of all it's gonna get the normal food, you've got to obviously get the nectar. You're gonna get that when you've got to get the birds as well. So kind of rolled and rolled and then
JP 1:14
so what games did you actually get them for in the end?
Becky 1:16
Wingspan and the nectar, Ark Nova and they're very cool. And
JP 1:21
There like little animal heads?
Becky 1:23
Yeah, so you've got elephants giraffes. Some kind of feline not sure. Which one? Yeah, Jaguar and Gorillas. Yeah. And Lords of Waterdeep. So you've got four little characters, which I don't know because Ive never played Lords of Waterdeep
JP 1:39
orange ones, the white ones, purple ones and black ones
Adrian 1:44
clerics, rogues, fighters and wizards I think
Becky 1:49
sounds good that everyone that was listening then was shouting at the microphone i'm sure
JP 1:54
It's not wizards it's sorcerorss I don't know it probably is wizards
Becky 1:59
But they are very nice. So I'm very excited about that. Yeah, really looking forward to getting a play with them
JP 2:05
it's amazing what wooden meeply components can do
Becky 2:08
I'm easily pleased. Yeah. Yeah, that's my life really
JP 2:12
What about you Adrian?
Adrian 2:13
Yeah, I mean things good haven't got a lot of gaming in to be honest. But yeah, I think's good. Been 3d printing lots of inserts for board games still. 3d printer is literally cycling.
JP 2:23
It's always on yours
Adrian 2:24
mine is always on literally always on
Becky 2:27
I printed curtain hooks of mine the other day? Oh, hell yeah. Because I just have some new curtains and realised I didn't have any hooks. So instead of getting dressed and going into town I 3d printed them.
Adrian 2:36
I think the only thing that I didn't 3d printed that wasn't boardgame related was a Pokeball that has switched at you can put Switch games inside that you open the Pokeball, that's for a friend of mine
JP 2:52
For me generally the Kickstarter one of them one of the many Kickstarters has arrived as we glance over to the corner of the room there's a lot cardboard boxes see the punch outs Yeah, absolutely. So my Perseverance kickstart arrived along with the Trickerion Big Box and and then I happened to have a delivery the same day which is the Marvel Champions Sinister Motives campaign box.
Becky 3:16
So the delivery guy thinking what is going on
JP 3:19
what is the heft of this box?
Becky 3:21
The worst thing with the recycling people who will be like what is this cardboard nonsense? What is all this
Adrian 3:26
They have got to be used to it by now, they must do like a like twice a week pickup. Just to get rid of all the box
JP 3:34
The money we're making off your house, the amount of cardboard comes out there is ridiculous. But yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think we'll talk about that in another episode. But yeah, just organising. Any Mindclash Big Box game is a feat upon itself. You need a separate book to tell you how to put the game away just so you can play the game. Wow. You got it. So Gametrayz, yeah, it's just a joybest 2 and ahalf hours. Plus, just me and I'm sad. Okay, cool. So we get into the first segment.
Adrian 4:09
Let's go for it
JP 4:17
So, games to the table. It's been a fairly busy, busy few games sessions have been going on lately, which is amazing. It's always good. So who's gonna go first?
Becky 4:27
I'll go first. Yeah, that's fine. So just a quick aside, I don't want to go on about it. Seeing if the entire episode that you've done recently was about it. But I got my first game of Nemesis in fabulous. I loved it. I can totally understand what you were all going on about. Yeah, really, really good. I think I'm won at the expense of someone else because we got a rule just a little bit wrong.
JP 4:47
Takeit its Nemesis
Becky 4:50
Counting it, I'm gonna go with it and run. Yeah, yeah. Really loved it. That was good.
JP 4:54
That was the Void Seeders wasn't Yeah, yeah.
Becky 4:56
But the main event for me was getting Unfathomable to the table for the first time, unfortunately couldn't be there. It was sad times
JP 5:04
I do miss games every now and then, it's rare but I do miss them
Becky 5:08
So yeah, we bought it quite a few weeks ago, but I had yet to get it to the table after lots of not actually not that much punching was a bit disappointed.
JP 5:19
What the punch game was light was it
Becky 5:21
Yeah, but you know, it's still fine. I've got the baggies and I did the organising so you know, can't completely wasn't complete, right, but it was really good. The game is beautiful. It was a really good excuse to get a really good playlist together. So this is speaking to your heart, here JP went an extra step above this time. So I had 19 Kind of 20s sort of lounge music. And I had, like a Sleep Sounds app playing over the top with, I think it was aeroplane propellers. But this sort of sounded like a boat kind of noise. A few bits of seagull and waves thrown in. So I thought it was brilliant. Kerley's not really massive fan. You know, some efforts. I like that. Yeah. I said, no, no. Did you do the playlist I was like, Yeah, did the playlist. You're not gonna be talked out of it. No, we're having it. I liked it.
JP 6:12
I'm in your camp
Becky 6:14
I think that should be an episode in the future, you know, ways to bring all your gaming experience. So if anyone's interested, we'll put all my playlists together, and they can help themselves from Spotify. So there we go. So yeah, it's basically a reskin of Battlestar Galactica, which we've played before and loved. But that kind of went out of license didn't it? So they decided to do a kind of Arkham world overlay?
JP 6:41
Yes. Probably Arkham Files universe for from Fantasy Flight, isn't it? So it's just another say? Just just another family flip? And it's just the little one in the universe, basically,
Adrian 6:53
Mr. Wibbels? Mr. Cthulhu? Yeah.
Becky 7:02
Zoidberg
Adrian 7:02
It's yeah,
Becky 7:03
yeah. This the the characters are drawn really beautifully. They're very inclusive and diverse, which I think is a really nice kind of just stop setting something barriers to gaming, perhaps. And yeah, the artwork is beautiful. The game the board is beautiful. plays really well, I think.
Adrian 7:22
Is it a mechanical step up from BSG?
Becky 7:25
I think it's very similar. It's very similar. So it uses the same sort of stats as all the other assets that I've already sort of mentioned. So yeah, you've got strength, will, lore, you know, the similar kind of stuff that you check and yeah, you draw your cards and you spend them secretly to either make the test work or to sabotage the test. So it's a kind of hidden a hidden traitor. Yeah. I was a traitor, right from the off, which is quite nice. So I was trying to like a secret like, I wink that Ian, who was also one of the traitors, but I couldn't do it because the people that were near me would totally, you just need something. Perhaps you'd like some kind of weird twitch or something? Yeah, but it was. Yeah, we were very kind of quickly got into it. And it was yeah, it was really good. Really enjoyed it. And would recommend,
JP 8:17
yeah, I mean, I love BSG I love the kind of Arkham universe anyway. So yeah, I was just interested to see if mechanically they tweaked anything or did something different with it. I heard that there's something with the ending or the way the ending works, but maybe I don't know.
Adrian 8:31
cultists is the change
Becky 8:33
so you've got so in Battlestar Galactica, which will just short of BSG because it's quicker, isn't it? You've got Cylons, and humans. So you've got humans, which are regular people, and the Cylons who sometimes think that humans will actually turn out they're not, and they are trying to sabotage the mission. So in this game, you've got hybrids and humans, so we still call them Cylons because we just couldn't get out that habit. We've also got a second baddie, called Cultist who wants to sabotage the mission, but only when it's close enough to the end of the mission that they could potentially swim for safety?
Adrian 9:08
It replaces the sympathiser yes sort of thing where you get low on food or whatever. And so you have cultists and sort of sympathisers.
Becky 9:17
So we didn't play with that character in this time, because we thought, well, it's our first game. We didn't play the most basic version where they tell you what characters to play. But we you know, but it was really good. We really enjoyed it. The games took a long time. But I think that's because quite a few of us hadn't seen each other for a little while. So there was a lot of non board game related chitchat and one of our members has got a very cute dog and we all spent time playing with the dog.
JP 9:42
Yeah saw the photos
Becky 9:44
Yeah. So yeah, Poppy, kind of. Yeah. Took a lot of the attention away.
JP 9:48
Who's turn is it, Poppys turn!!! can we get on with it
Becky 9:52
Yeah, it was it was really good. I would recommend brilliant as well. Okay. Adrian, how about you, man?
Adrian 9:57
So I've been playing Railroad Ink. quite a bit recently, the last week or so been playing it quite a bit solo. It's one of the very few solo games I have. It's a roll and wright, you get a grid, and you have some roads and tracks that lead onto that grid. You roll your dice, they have roads and tracks on it, and you lay them out in a nice pattern and you try and connect as many of the roads and railways as you can. And you score the most points in like six rounds of rolling dice. For me, I think it does what some people have with like Sudoku and crosswords,
Becky 10:28
I was just about to say that sounds really similar to that kind of...
JP 10:33
100% agree with your analogy on that one
Adrian 10:33
Yeah, you just roll some dice, you put your draw your little roads and that on there. And if you get a great score, or you get the nice setup of your roads, you feel happy, right? You feel happy. You've achieved it. You don't need to worry about high scores, necessarily. If you're playing on your own. You're just like, oh, that works out really well doing it that way. Oh, playing another game. It's taken me five minutes to play.
JP 10:57
Isn't it though you roll some dice swear because the bloody double curved roads appeared or double tracks appeared and go? Where's that gonna fit? And then navigate around it, that was my experience
Adrian 11:10
Oh, yeah, maybe I tend to find this the last round the last round or second to last round, you're like, come on, all I need is a straight track. And I get to join up all these pieces. By scoring, it looks really satisfying. And all I've done is rolled roads
Becky 11:24
isn't expensive game is it?
Adrian 11:27
£15, so I've got blue, which was one of the original set. Since then they bought out the Challenge series, which makes it if you're playing it with others makes it a little bit more interactive. You've got sort of achievements of the first one to connect six roads together gets extra points, but I play it mostly solo I don't think it will be Challenged may have changed it but as a as a roll in right. As a group activity. I don't think there's much to it. I think it's great solo
Becky 11:54
I guess Could you play against someone else? Not together, but I've scored whatever. Yeah, then they're best score
Adrian 12:01
That's technically the game the way the game works, but there is no interaction whatsoever in the base games Challenge adds a little bit and I think it might add just enough to get a couple of people playing it. Okay, but the base game alone. For me, it's a solo game. I think it's great solo game I played very few of them. And quite often if I'm on holiday or if I have a few days where we like you know, have breakfast or dinner or whatever, just roll some dice and just have like a bit of a relax.
Becky 12:30
Like you said when you might do like a Sunday morning crossword or whatever,
Adrian 12:34
It literally replaces that pastime for me. I'm not really a sudoku or crossword or anything like that kind of person by all quite happy crack through five, six games of railroading in an afternoon.
Becky 12:45
Wonder if there's an app for that
Adrian 12:46
there is
Becky 12:47
oh there we go. I've just answered. Excellent. I'm downloading
JP 12:51
lots of in app purchases of all the different types of dice.
Adrian 12:57
Yeah, I think to me, I think it's fantastic. If you if you don't get on with solo game as much like I do. I think it's fills that look nice little 15 minutes and it's sort of coffee break sort of thing, yeah/
JP 13:09
Yeah. The set-ups like there isn't one There isn't. Just open it up and roll dice
Becky 13:14
Perfect.
JP 13:15
Okay, cool. Yeah, me? Yeah, I managed to get your favourite Adrian Cloudspire to the table. You laughs because he hates it. I've been on his personal quest to get Cloudspire just to the table against people
Becky 13:32
So I haven't played this game so I can be the stooge for the audience
JP 13:37
to class boys, another Chip Theory Games, so more neoprene and poker chips. Just because I haven't got enough.
Becky 13:43
No, that's missing in your life.
JP 13:45
MIssing in my life, there's more of it apparently in a different game. But now it's essentially modelled after what they call a MOBA. And we're gonna get the acroynm wrong isn't like mobile online battle arena or something like that. And cross between tower defence?
Becky 14:01
Wait a minute, is this a game
JP 14:02
like League of Legends get never played, because that's what the cool kids play.
Becky 14:07
Well, we can't play that.
JP 14:10
So essentially, you've got these factions, and they've all got kind of heroes and minions. And then you've got these spires which are these towers that you can build. And you essentially build your army, you invest your kind of points and you set them off your little children off they go and attack the other ones all clashes and then kind of little along the sides. And the idea is to try and take the other faction down. But it's very, very strategic. A lot of things going on being Chip Theory there is about 1,000,001 keywords. You've kind of got to understand,
Becky 14:41
Rulebook is a tome then
JP 14:43
yes, it's just there's a lot going on in it. And the barrier to entry is steep. Like it's very steep. And it warrants a lot of plays just to even get your head around your faction, let alone the opponent's faction going. How did you do that? I didn't know this Impale key word existed. So it's one of them. I love it. I play it a lot solo just because
Becky 15:07
no one else wants play with me
JP 15:10
That's the real reason. But I do actually enjoy the solo game of it because it plays different to PvP because it's a puzzle. So it's setup and actually teaches you the factions and how to lean in certain aspects of these factions to win the puzzle. I've been enjoying those kind of scenarios and I've got like up now, almost 12 scenarios in which there's a lot of hours worth of effort. But reason I'm happy is I managed to get a game of it was somebody who enjoyed it. Hey, it's a chap called Ben, he's part of the Gaming Rules! crew, who I socialise with
Becky 15:46
Your other group of friends
JP 15:48
sorry, team. But no he's, he's a big Chip Theory nut as well. He's interested try out so he came out on Wednesday, I played Grovetenders the one that you played, you never played Grovetenders before. So I was floundering and didn't know what I was doing. And he was playing Brawnen, which is usually the fashion I give to newbies. And so yeah, I made sure that he had a good time, and really just said, look, think about this, think about this is how you can decimate me, and he got to the point where he just killed me. So I think I took my eye off my board, and you just completely kill me away 4 so but now it's just good to go to the table. So always enjoy it so yes.
Becky 16:28
what is it about the Cloudspire that you don't like?
JP 16:31
all of it, ha ha
Adrian 16:33
The the key word thing is an issue. Every faction basically gets an A4 document, one side of it has all of the upgrades you can purchase just full of text, okay,
JP 16:46
which is like what 15
Adrian 16:49
something like that special rules, and you've got to choose which tech tree almost you want to go down
Becky 16:53
I quite like a tech tree
Adrian 16:56
and then the other side of it has all the special rules for all the minions and stuff you will play. And that's just your faction and every faction is different,
Becky 17:04
because you are normally quite sort of involved in the rules and know that quite well. So I'm surprised that this isn't
Adrian 17:10
That is that isn't the biggest problem, it is a problem. It is a barrier to entry. I think for that game bonus. I think if I could see more in the game, I would absolutely just go through those key words and be fine with it. My issue is the fact that as you've kind of said, it's a tower defence game. So essentially, you let the beginning of your turn, you point to someone else's tower, and all your minions are kind of on rails towards that tower. Right. And I think they've done the best with that kind of game to put decision making into it. But I don't think it's enough immediacy of decision making for my personal preference. I think there are examples of games I like where that would go against that being a bit hypocritical. But for the most part, I think it just lacks a lot of decision making. Your decision is I'm building these units, and I'm building these towers, and I'm heading at you. And for me, that was 90% of the decision making in a three hour game.
Becky 18:05
Okay, so interaction is not,
Adrian 18:07
it just, I felt like there was so much to learn for a game that had a very small decision making, I think if you get good at it, and if you really enjoyed it, there would be more to it. And you would find those levels of decision making Oh, okay.
JP 18:21
100% I'm not saying I'm good because I'm not. But yeah, there are things that you can be doing. Once you really know that you know, the game inside out, that you can kind of manipulate the landscape of which you know how the units move, and you can manipulate their movement to slow them down and speed them up. But you right, if you don't like things being on rails such you're probably not going to enjoy it.
Becky 18:44
It doesn't sound like a game for me. Simply because the learn sounds
JP 18:49
It's a cliff
Adrian 18:51
I must have watched four or five videos beforehand just to learn the one faction I wanted to play
Becky 18:56
I need 4-5 minutes. And I need to know most of it in that I'm happy to then just carry on a bit more. No, that does not sound well I'm glad you enjoyed. Doesn't sound like one.
JP 19:07
It's not one for many people. But you know, we've all got some of those games in that collection.
Adrian 19:11
Absolutely. We wouldn't be much fun if we if there wasn't 14 games out there that everyone likes and nothing for anyone else.
JP 19:17
So that's me. I mean, to kind of round it off. We all attended the same event, didn't we? Which is the Crokinole night. Great fun. So we had what three boards,
Becky 19:27
three boards.
JP 19:28
On what well, two stable and one on a wobbly table, which is now fixed, fixed it. Kris has now immediately fix this wobbly table which was just for those who are listening was as a camping table perched on two wooden beams,
Adrian 19:42
two by fours
JP 19:42
two by fours. One of the legs kept going
Becky 19:47
when you kind of lean on it with your elbows that it did not work
JP 19:50
It's when your doing your shot and then suddenly banks to the left
Becky 19:53
but it worked in my benefit at one point because I was having to shoot slightly uphill which actually is quite helpful.
JP 19:58
Yeah getting those 20s And now it's just really good to hang out, wasn't it? Yeah, we do have the UK, Crokinole Championship like I mentioned on every episode so far. So we in the show notes
Becky 20:09
Sell those tickets,
JP 20:09
we will have the link in the show notes for sure. If you're interested in it, like you say, check it out. And if not just come come around to the tournament anyway, say hello. Because I think most of us are going to be there.
Becky 20:21
Absolutely.
JP 20:22
I'm sure we'll all be in our branded apparel which Kris has kindly sorted out for his bless him So yeah, if not, come say hi, take the mick out of us, whatever
Becky 20:34
Why are you so rubbish at Crokinole you've owned the board for years. That's what I'm expected
JP 20:37
You keep talking about it. No we enjoy playing it don't we. Cool. So I think that's it right? That's what hit the table so far
So it's time for our main event. And today, it's all about getting started in the hobby, and kind of everything in between. So I think the first question to ask is why. So why should people get into this hobby? What's so good about tabletop board gaming? Okay, thrown into the table.
Becky 21:13
It's so diverse. There is something for everyone. I think even people that don't like it, or don't realise they like it yet. That's my opinion on it anyway.
JP 21:23
Okay. So diverse in what way as in,
Becky 21:25
there's just so many games out there. There's so many different types of games. There's so many tie ins withthings there is something for even the most reluctant. Yeah, miserable curmudgeon, so find something that they like.
JP 21:41
I thought I would have to edit that out then
Becky 21:44
No, I'm trying to use the language, miserable curmudgeon was the rest I think of.
Adrian 21:54
Yeah, I have to agree with that. There's, there's so much out there. Now, when, again, when I got into board gaming, it was a fairly narrow field, there wasn't many IP tie in's or anything like that.
Becky 22:07
Intellectual property for people that don't know, I didn't know what that was, until really recently. So I'm
JP 22:13
Fair play
Adrian 22:14
call it out yep, and I think because of that, there's now something for everyone and hobbies are just good for people, right? Whether we're talking about board game ones, or not all
Becky 22:25
Absolutely
Adrian 22:26
having hobby help, like just gives you something to do give you time away time away from work time with family time with friends.
Becky 22:33
And the more you think you haven't got time for a hobby, and that's probably the more you should have. Because you clearly not
JP 22:39
balance is not right
Becky 22:40
which is easy for me to say with no children. And you know, times my own however,
JP 22:45
it's easy for me to say I have children I don't think I've got the balance right either, gone too far the other way
Becky 22:51
But I think yeah, if you think I couldn't possibly fit in any kind of game. You really need to start doing you know, something now that railroad thing sounds really good for that. 15 minutes. Great. Yeah, play a bit of Yahtzee or boggle or any of the real quick.
JP 23:06
Escape is absolutely escapism from not like you need to escape from your life. But sometimes you need to escape from your life. I think for your mental health. That's massively important. So with people that I think that don't have any hobbies, and it doesn't have to be board game does it nothing because it can be anything could be knitting, it could be...i can't think of anything else other than board gaming
Becky 23:30
I collect hobbies, that is my hobby. So I am the perfect all together. No idea person. All right. Yeah.Absolutely.
JP 23:40
Yeah. And then it's just important, isn't it? It's just having that time for you do something you really enjoy that you're passionate about, and that you could just lose yourself in
Becky 23:50
it's also a good way of being interactive, if maybe you're a bit solo at work, or even if you're not even if you're surrounded by tonnes of people that you wouldn't choose to socialise with is a really good way. When I had the dreaded Coronavirus the other week the thing that made me the saddest was not being able to meet up, sound really sad when I say it, but it was not being able to play games with you guys. And it was I really, really missed that. And I've not played that many games that much that long as you have you guys have been I just I really I just really want to play something.
JP 24:23
Yeah,
Adrian 24:23
I'm I totally agree. I'm I'm personally a massive introvert. I think it's a bit of a stereotype. So introverts are board gamers, but I know plenty of extroverts that are also board gamers.
JP 24:34
Hello,
Becky 24:34
hello.
Adrian 24:35
Yeah, but for me the idea of going to a pub or going somewhere and just dealing with small talk is boring. Yeah, like a waste of my time and energy like to me personally putting an activity in front of you where you get to do the social talk about life you get to interact with people and having a task at hand having something that's absolutely frame it round. I think is brilliant, like say someone like me who's introvert or if you have social anxiety or anything like that, it gives you a way to focus on something not worried about the fact necessarily you're socialising or maybe just getting rid of that small talk part. Yeah, that I really dislike.
Becky 25:17
The small talk isn't there isn it, But you do have to, you do have to interact,
Adrian 25:24
as you kind of sort of alluded to before is during downtime, you will quite happily talk about whatever's going on in between turns, you get that interactivity. But your brain is still doing the thinking of what happens if they take the worker placement place before I get something and you kind of get that, that mix of two things, right? You're doing something cool, and something that's working your brain and you're interacting with someone?
JP 25:47
Is it a bit like that anxiety of you know, going on your first date and then you got kind of think
Becky 25:51
Never been on a date mate in my life? Never ever so I couldn't
JP 25:55
I'm trying to understand as I'm not introverted. So yeah, I'm trying to get into into that that kind of mode and think, Yeah, is it that that kind of thing where you're trying to think, oh, I need to hold a conversation, or I need to talk about things so I can continue. So it's just not awkward? And then when it gets awkward, it's like oh now what they're saying, Can't be bothered.
Becky 26:12
Why am I on so long and gangly and then you suddenly Yeah, absolutely.
JP 26:17
Genuine question from an extrovert or an introvert? I suppose. Yeah,
Adrian 26:20
I think I think there was a bit of mix up there between introversion and social anxiety,
JP 26:24
Fair enough
Adrian 26:25
someone who has had anxiety and panic attacks and stuff like that, there can definitely become a fear of leaving the front door. Right? Yeah, there is that in social anxiety part, I think the difference and it can be great to, to have something where you're not pressured into socialising. And perhaps you look, if I like Carcassonne because I can play Carcassonne against you, I can play Carcassonne against someone else. There may be differences in it, but it's ultimately the game you can focus on it helps reduce those anxieties. And I think that can be really strong for someone who does have social anxiety or panic attacks or anything like that. Getting through that, I think from an introversion point of view is just that I don't have to deal with standard small talk, talking about what was on Coronation Street, if you're in England. Jersey Shore here in America perhaps, it's you know, you don't have to worry about any of that tension coming, it might come up, you know, if you're groups into all that, like different TV shows, or whatever. But for the most part, you can then decide to maybe tune out a little bit without appearing rude or rude or wherever. And you can just talk about non focusing on the game at this point. It helps balance that, that energy that if you're in if you're extroverted, you get your energy from people, yes. If you're introverted, you get your energy from being alone, and you spend more energy from being around people. And I found that playing board games as an introvert reduces the cost of energy, if you're looking at it that way.
Becky 27:46
That's a very board game worth looking
Adrian 27:49
It is?
JP 27:49
Yeah I've heard that before that's kind of how it is.
Adrian 27:52
It costs me less energy to be around people if I've got a board game to focus on a third of the time, half the time, two thirds of the time. And so yes, there is that. There is that thing for that as an introvert point of view that does help to have an activity. And it doesn't again, I'm like you I collected hobbies at one point like that, like it was a hobby, and having an activity or a hobby or something to focus on while you're interacting with people helps. I think in that sense,
JP 28:19
it's really good. I think my why is the social like, say I'm extroverted. So it is about getting around the table with people. I think, without this hobby, might of mentioned that on a previous episode, I didn't really have much of a social life. But yeah, and this is what's helped me get it.
Becky 28:41
Yeah. Well, I see more of you guys than I do have any of my other groups of friends, I suppose. And I guess for you working sort of more solitary? Yeah, it's really good way of having a group of people. So my job isn't like that. I have worked with a lot of people all the time. And it's constant social interaction. So for me, I think board games are more the puzzle that kind of we should make you think I'd be better at them when you because I'd be sitting there thinking but that doesn't necessarily go together. I really like the am I doing this the most efficient way am I have I solved the puzzle of it. And I think that's really fun and mentally challenging, but not, too. You haven't got an invest a...Well, okay, but too many bones human invested a huge amount, but you haven't got to invest money, you're gonna invest a lot of stuff. You have got to have a lot of kit. Alright, maybe you need a big enough table.
Adrian 29:32
Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that it's that the first hit is free board games. Is it you either you either enjoy your first few games and you're just a will to your wallet, and your shelf space and your laptop? Or you might just go that cold on it. And again, it can be the wrong game or it can be maybe that you know, you just can't get these games to the table enough or whatever it is. It may not be a thing for you, but I guarantee as you kind of said there is at least one game out there. There's no way of testing this. But I'm pretty sure there's one game out there for everyone
JP 30:03
that has to bit, it's a bit like saying, you know, there's definitely life out there, and those planets and stars are out there. There has to be, apologies if you don't believe in that, but I do
Becky 30:15
your first player today. So what do you say goes?
JP 30:18
I'm the bloody rulemaster so listen, no, no, it's complete true them out of games. I mean, I don't know what that how many games are listed on BoardGameGeek which is the online database
Adrian 30:27
When when you say that the top 1000 games is indicator because how have good games? Yeah, if it's good, yeah, if they're in the top 1000, the likelihood is that they're pretty good. Yeah, that tells you that how many games there are out there that are maybe not so good. Not saying any outside the top 1000 that are bad. I'm just saying that you can quite firmly say that most of the games in the top 1000 are considered good by multiple people
Becky 30:52
They have been enjoyed by lots of people. I think that segues really nicely into the kind of second thing we were talking about, which is getting other people involved. Yeah, there is something out there for everyone. I think it really depends. What your kind of modus operandi is for getting these people involved. So usually, it's I want my partner to play or my sister or someone I live with, or the people around me, I'm really passionate about this, I want them to like it too, and not mock me for playing board games, perhaps. So that's going to be a different reason than if, say you want your partner to play because you want to spend time with them. Or you want to justify the money you're spending or you know, that kind of thing. So I think the reason you're getting trying to get people in really change how you should try and live them. Yeah, JP is the best to talk about this because he's lured us all so
JP 31:39
yeah, go go by design or by by pure chance. Now it's definitely by design. But no, it's kind of like the like you said it. Is it for you. Was it for your group? Yeah. So it's kind of like, there isn't standard list of games that you can go right and play these and you're guaranteed to have a success, and they'll play them and then suddenly be in the gaming group, because it doesn't work like that. It's is you have to, if you're doing it for other people, you have to kind of curate the games for those people to get the best chance of success. Still doesn't always work
Becky 32:11
them correctly. And they'll see the light. Right.
JP 32:15
But versus you know, what you might find personally interesting. Yeah, it's a completely different list, right?
Adrian 32:21
Yeah. But you know, if you're getting these people into it, there's a good chance unless it's just blindly like putting out there our fancy starting game group, which we talked about in previous podcast, but assuming you're getting into in people into gaming that you know, you will probably know what they will like, if they like Harry Potter, because we've talked about that before. There are 6,7,8 games that I can think of off the top of my head that have Harry Potter theme, whether it's the battle game, whether it's the dark arts, the House Cup, the Death Eaters Rising, there's a new Quidditch game about to come out that I've kickstarted, yay
Becky 32:59
is even little kind of simple, like Go Fish kind of games.
Adrian 33:02
Yeah,
JP 33:02
so the miniatures game,
Adrian 33:03
there's the miniatures game, there's the codenames version of Harry Potter. There's loads out there
JP 33:09
Dobble
Becky 33:10
Dobble yeah, let's go that's a million we've done that.
JP 33:12
I won't count that one
Becky 33:13
It's just you know, if you're trying to capture a very young kind of person into board gaming, and you know, they like that kind of stuff, you just kind of
Adrian 33:22
just gotta do that bit of research to work out what it is you're getting them into, and that can be harder if it's you trying to get into it right if I like Harry Potter, I've never played a board game before. And I walk into like, Waterstones occasionally has like those kinds of games in it and all that kind of stuff. Or walk into Waterstones or a Game or whatever, let alone a board game shop, you can be confronted with a load of board games. It's like Well, which one of these do I like?
Becky 33:45
Yeah, yeah, doing your research. I think really helps
Adrian 33:47
doing your research, there's plenty of articles out there YouTube is full of reviews, how to play you could go out there and find which games like look like not only do I like the IP or not only does that interest me, but also the mechanics or the weight of game the type of game interests me as well and you can get into it and it's just say if it's you getting into it, you just need to do a bit of research yourself. If it's you getting other people in, there's probably a good chance you've got a bit of knowledge there already and you just need to think about it a bit. That's gonna get those people into that game.
Becky 34:18
I think the people that like Christmas time board game type things like that Articulate or, but I can imagine maybe introverts perhaps not liking that so much because all about gabbing on. I love it.
JP 34:33
What a surpise
Becky 34:34
It's one of my favourite games, although me and Kerly were banned from being in the team together
JP 34:39
Was you like a hivemind were you
Becky 34:40
because yeah, we do like as a rule switch. They're all sort of kind of tweak, where you try to get your other team member to guess the word before the other people. And if you know your partner inside out, you can say that thing we watched last Tuesday that and then you can kind of cheat and that's no good. But if someone likes that kind of party game element, then you can maybe build on that like code word you mentioned was a really good code. Yeah, Codenames sorry. It's a really good. It's a party game. Yes. Starting to use that kind of deduction kind of thing. Another like basic stuff like Uno, for example, everyone, card games really accepted everyone. No, no one bats. And if you say you're playing card games,
JP 35:20
Especially Uno, it's probably in most households
Becky 35:24
Absolutely. So if people like playing that, you can probably build on that. And then kind of, oh, this is other games we play that like, like co-operative ones, like Mansions of Madness. So I've got a couple of friends who she's very competitive, but I didn't think she'd really want to get involved in big crunchy games. So Mansions of Madness is perfect for her. Because you win or lose together. It's still a story. Yeah. So it's very, it's very inclusive and easy access, isn't it? You've got the stuff and you've got, you know, the app, whatever.
Adrian 35:55
I think I think this moves quite nicely on to another point as well is that themed games can quite often be easy to get people tell a story, whether it's whether it's mechanical and crunchy, or whether it's not saying someone, okay, that we're going into a mansion where there's going to be loads of crazy stuff going on, just do what you think is the best choice, knowing that you're the person who likes to hit things, or knowing that you're the person that likes to solve, like puzzle solve, or whatever it is that that character does. You can just story tell that, and that's quite easy to get somebody else into that game. And I tend to find those kinds of games are what you know, I think the industry generally calls gateway games.
Becky 36:32
Yeah, it really is. It definitely worked for me. I think Carcassonne and Settlers of Catan. So when, yeah, so I mean, board game for me was really about me and Carly trying to spend more time together because we both have very singular hobbies. So I like handicrafts, and modelling and making things and that sort of stuff. He plays a lot of PC games. So we wanted something that we could do together. And I think probably a lot of people are in that kind of, they don't want to just sit in front of the TV watching. Pick your random TV programme, whatever. So knowing that I'm he's really good at guessing the kind of games are like, so I'm not really into the kind of old fighty combatitive, that sort of thing. So Carcassonne was great. I think I've only played it once. But that was enough to get me interested is exactly that. Yeah, but it was the same with Catan. We played it one time, it helps that I got a thing. I can't even remember how you play it now. But I won because I managed to get the thing that stopped him getting anything else.
JP 37:33
The Robber was it
Becky 37:34
I honestly can't remember really can't remember, but I'm not saying I have to when it came to then like it. I think it was it. Yeah, I think so. If you're trying to get someone involved and interested make it something that they at least have a chance of winning
JP 37:48
Accessible
Becky 37:49
Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't suggest that people try and get someone to play a game by over well, let's just watch his half an hour YouTube video first then, which is what I realised I need to do in order to enjoy the game the first time, but it most certainly would have been a barrier to what you're gonna have to sit and watch this thing before I even play a thing I don't even want to do this is not good.
JP 38:09
I was away last weekend in the caravan not on my own as that would be a bit weird but no with we've family and friends family and took a lead like travel kind of light games. And yeah, I just said right everyone we're about to play this game. Can you all get your phone up and do a 30 minute YouTube video they would have just laughed me out the room
Becky 38:28
at you just completely not invested instantly. And oh, this is a chore? Yeah, it's meant to be a game. It's not having fun. Yeah, you shouldn't be playing
JP 38:36
exactly. And then in that instance, you know, I took Love Letter. That's great, which is just an easy game to teach. I can teach it in like two minutes if that and you get people playing and then suddenly you know people get it and generally generally have a good time. Sabotuer either I went down a storm I've got people that hate games playing Saboteur, which really easy cars get lightning fast talked about it before and the other one that surprised me actually was King of New York. I've got king of New York version but the King of Tokyo is the current probably the simpler version of it. And that's like again, you try explain to people basically you're like King calm and you do get out with like Godzilla in Tokyo or New York and and you're trying to get fame and stuff
it's the Yahtzee with hitpoints. I've taught that game a lot of times and so a lot of a different age groups have played with a lot of different age groups and different sizes of people. And I've never failed to teach someone get it within what I do what I think the first turn yeah, let me show you the dice. Okay, what I could do here is I could get this for points I could get that for energy, health or
Smack you
Adrian 39:43
smacking other monsters, but I'm going to do this quickly talk through my first turn hand the dice round. And normally I've seen the entire table has got it. It is such a simple game. It can be a bit bit cutthroat. I think that gives it some life if you've got but if you've got like I've got young kids, and they're all going to start knocking each other out
JP 40:02
I've had about tears over that with my youngest son.
Adrian 40:05
Yeah, you can absolutely have seen in myself when I cried about being knocked out, with other people, but it is it was on my list of shortlist of games that I would recommend of getting people in because, as you say, the teach the rulebook is like six A4 pages long. And I don't know how they've managed that. It's not that complicated, but the teacher is less than two or three minutes. And it's so much fun. And so easy to understand if you've played any kind of Yahtzee your dice game like that. We're just trying to get you through like
JP 40:36
big chunky, green or black black and green dice and there are chunky just rolling these these six dice
Becky 40:43
grey, we have played that I thought I haven't made this. And then we played it when we went to con in London
JP 40:50
Yeah. Tabletop Gaming Live before the rona. What else we got yeah,
Adrian 40:55
so Okay, well, if we're gonna go through a gateway games
JP 40:58
Why not lets thrown them out, quickfire
Adrian 41:00
I had a couple of different ideas over Am I getting myself into it? Am I recommending if you've randomly listened to this podcast, because it's shown up on an algorithm somewhere, you've listened to?
JP 41:11
Thank you
Adrian 41:11
Yeah. You've listened to it by accident. What am I recommending you? And the other list I had was what am I recommending to teach to other people? Yeah. So the list of that there's just a few on there of what am I teaching myself. My first thought was the rule book. If I open a box, and it's got a 20 page rule book in it this my first ever board game, I'm probably putting the lid back on the box, sliding it off the table.
Becky 41:37
It's like instruction manuals there is in my opinion is like a guideline later, if it hasn't worked out
JP 41:42
I'm with you, but not on board games, I'm like, rulebook phwoarrhhh
Adrian 41:46
I'm quite happy to read complex rule books and try and understand them or even set up a board game on the table.
JP 41:52
But that's now though
Adrian 41:53
But that's now I've got into I've been in the hobby for years. And so I got to that point. For those that are new. I think the two that stood out to me that have that short rulebook that are quite easy to get into that have a level of decision making. First one is Century either Spice Road or Golem Edition. They're the same game. literally pick whichever one looks best to you. One which I got was Gollum Edition is shiny, anime esque sort of artwork. big chunky see through gems.
Becky 42:22
Oh, why did I pick Spice Road? That sounds great.
JP 42:25
Or the other one which looks looks awful.
Adrian 42:27
No the other one is just it's it's trading spices, the artworks a bit more sort of painterly if you want to think about it that way a bit more traditional. You've got little coloured cubes, there's probably a bit more of a theme when you're actually trading spices rather than just collecting gems and trading them in for golems. Maybe I can't work out what the theme is on the reskin. It just looks beautiful. And I bought it for that. It's essentially a hand builder, you're either buying a card, you're playing a card to make gems better or getting gems, or you're then trading those gems in for a gollum. And that is pretty much the entire game in a nutshell. It's not overly difficult. And after a few plays, the game lasts what half an hour?
JP 43:04
Yes, yes. Quick.
Adrian 43:06
After a few games, you'll absolutely have it down and you'll be looking out for certain combos or you'll be looking at the cards for purchasing, you're like well, that's not very good. That's not very good. That's brilliant I'll have that sort of thing. The other one was
Bärenpark. Oh, that Bears Bears, right, which is the name is a little bit perhaps potentially pretentious, because it's in German. And therefore it's a bit like in an English market. If you look at a game with a German name on it, you might kind of be put off. It's basically like it's a tile placement game. It's just Tetris with bears.
Becky 43:39
Liking the sound of that
JP 43:40
It's animals again,
Becky 43:42
yeah the cute stuff i'm for it
Adrian 43:44
you got your little zoo, you've got a grid, you cover up, you have a handful of starting tiles, you cover up different tiles, you get other tiles with bears on or like the restaurant section or whatever. And you just keep putting them down until you've made whatever it is to score the most because there'll be different like this game. It's whoever gets the most pandas down for or whoever gets three lots of pandas down first gets the top tile who doesn't second guess the next is worth less points. And then if you finish one of your squares, there's like four squares you can get like of big squares of little squares of a grid. If you finish off a big square, then you get a little bear statue to put in the middle of the board and there were points. You can literally teach it as a ok, here's the four squares you can cover up, cover them up, get your little your little tile, put it on the board, you've played Patchwork for a couple of weeks. It's very similar to Patchwork.
Becky 44:38
It's got bears, Patchworks doesn't have bears
JP 44:40
Just quilts
Adrian 44:42
it's three sides of a fall with the special rules of extra scoring points. Really simple, really easy to read and understand. So if I'm getting myself into it, those are the two games that I probably recommend you pick up. Give them a try. There's plenty of others out there. Just my personal thoughts on what I get to the table. I love what I like teaching to new players. If I'm teaching other people my first thought is always Pandemic because my first thought most of all things are probably Pandemic, but
JP 45:10
and it's one of the favourites.
Adrian 45:11
It's just, it's just one of my favourites. But it's a co op game. That is understandable. It has a little bit of a theme, it doesn't take too much to teach. And because it's Co Op, yeah, you probably could drift heavily into alpha gaming, which is where you start taking people's other people's turns.
Becky 45:29
Yeah, that happened to us when we played it.
Adrian 45:31
Yeah. And I occasionally drift into that by accident and have to remind myself and be like,
JP 45:35
Bad Adrian
Adrian 45:35
but when you look when you're teaching the game to others, and they're like, Oh, I'm really not sure what to do here. You could just explain the options to you don't feel like you're pandering to them or anything like that. You're all on the same side and half the half a game, they're playing their own turns. Like even if they really didn't get it to start with
Becky 45:50
depends what you want, like with my friend who I know that she wants to play games, because she enjoys that the fun aspect we played Chameleon, which is very simple party game. One person is a hidden, know nothing. They don't have the special key to understand to unlock the puzzle. And then you're relying
JP 46:10
Your blagging it
Becky 46:10
on your blagging, Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a bit yeah, a blaggers game. That's exactly what it is. She got that and enjoyed it. And it's really fun. I have does suffer from the same thing as Avalon but only for maybe two minutes, because each round is very quick. If you if you have got the I don't know what the the actual word is card, and it's your first go, you're really floundering in the dark. But it's gonna be over in two minutes. I think. For me, that's what I needed getting into board games, something that while I still can't lie, it's still what I do. Now, if turns take too long. If you've got to do a lot of investing your time and it's just, it's, it's just a write off already. Yeah. So that's a really good thing. I would suggest to people make the terms quick, make it something that if it all goes wrong, you've only wasted half an hour, rather than setting up a ginormous table of who knows what game
JP 46:10
of colour and cardboard?
Becky 46:14
Yeah.
I think that all goes out all of this advice potentially goes out the window, if you know someone just loves an IP. The reason why I
JP 46:32
Star Wars or whatever it is
Adrian 46:36
Well the reason why I think Zombicide was so it was so well timed, right Walking Dead was was three seasons in two seasons in something like that. Everyone was loving this idea of The Walking Dead. And some woman is a fairly simple dungeon crawler style game where we're all working on the same side. So I can absolutely teach you what's going on. When we're just shooting zombies, you can get your head around it right. And it's so if someone likes zombies, or likes the Walking Dead son beside why not? What's it wouldn't if I was teaching it to myself, and I saw this 40 Page Rule Book, maybe would put me off that maybe it wouldn't, because I love zombies. And these are cool models.
JP 47:56
And there's about a thousand of them on the board at once
Adrian 47:59
But if you're teaching someone else, I don't think he does take it off the table. I think it is a pretty safe bet to say if someone like zombies sticks Zombicide the table because it's easy to teach. And I do think there is a bit of Get Out of Jail Free with Co Op games in the fact of if they're not getting it, you can help them for a few turns does it and I think just jumped right into that, that take your foot off the pedal and let them have their own space to do it.
JP 48:21
They go I think we've we've talked about quite a few different options there. Knowing thy gamer or potential gamer is the important piece of the puzzle and you know, curate the games you think they will enjoy and try it out. See what happens if it doesn't work. So well try again if they want to. And yeah, hopefully we've given you some some food for thought and some options there. So again, I think it's time for some questions.
So we've got another question in the fake mailbag. That does not exist. And we've got it from Stuart Ennew who asks us during the recent mass incarceration did anyone turn online tabletop gaming? And how did they find it? He goes on to say for him whilst Tabletop Simulator and Steam games were good quality he found any game where you really need to see the whole board or easily see what cards and tokens your opponents have made the game that less enjoyable, so
Adrian 49:22
yeah, I'll go first. My first introduction to Tabletop Simulator was during lockdown, I hadn't really touched it via touch gaming apps and stuff like that before. And there's some great ones out there but Tabletop Simulator my first one was Whitehall Mystery. So your certain invisible person Jack the Ripper that you're chasing around the board as policeman
JP 49:45
Like Fury of Dracula?
Adrian 49:46
Yeah, like a Fury of Dracula or something like that. I mentioned to pick it up in real life. And we tried to do this thing where I had this elaborate camera rig up and I tried to do it over Skype essentially or whatever. Didn't work. We then turned to Tabletop Simulator. It's just fatally I didn't, I'll be honest, I didn't enjoy it. I potentially give it another go. But I was grateful in lockdown, we were able to like form a bubble, as they called it. And we were able to meet some, like another household. living on my own. I got to meet up with another household and, and they specifically chose gamers so that I could get games and every week in all honesty, and that was kind of my way through
JP 50:21
I had to choose my family ha ha
Becky 50:24
I had to work through all of it, so there we go
JP 50:26
Keyworker
Adrian 50:27
But yeah, I didn't I didn't take to Tabletop Simulator. Personally. I know other gaming groups that I talked to regularly they did they play through a whole host of Euro games pretty much over locked down over Tabletop Simulator. They liked it. It wasn't for me.
JP 50:42
Yeah fair,
Becky 50:43
I think if you've already played the game before. And so who's the other person? And you already know what the table top version looks like? Well, you know, using a virtual one can work really well. So it wasn't during lockdown, but I started to play Wingspan on Steam. And because I already know how it works, that's fine. If I had never seen Wingspan before, it would not have been a way in which I would want to learn or play Wingspan ever, because it's just it's just not the same as it that said things like Jackbox gaming, which is for people who don't know like a party games, basically really quick party
JP 51:20
Online party games yeah, get a few of them in a box
Becky 51:22
yeah, and this, you know, code, code names, code names is on there. But other stuff like kind of queasy and kind of other stuff like that. I think actually, that's a really good way of breaking people into the board gaming kind of world. I wonder how many people who had never given board games? A second thought or just assumed it was Monopoly? I wonder how many of those have gone on actually do you know what, maybe, maybe there is something out there that I might quite like, because I think actually it's a really good way of breaking people into it.
JP 51:54
Yeah. We did a lot of Jackbox. We playted Drawful. Oh, that was just hilarious. just hilarious. We're really mature, which led to many hilarity. But there we go. Now, I think for me, I think I weirdly, I learned Barrage online, which is not an easy game, to kind of pick up Now it's basically building dams and stealing other people's water. It's quite cool. But it's quite a heavy mid mid to heavy Euro game, and learned it completely online used to TTS Tabletop Simulator. And then once we got through it, which was a bit of a slog, it was fine. Like we enjoyed it. But I found that, I think the novelty of gaming, because because that will get taken away the social aspect taken away. And that was my only way to game and for all this is new, oh look all the games online isn't it's amazing. And then I think quickly, it just dissipated because it's like, this is just not the same for me. Doesn't give me this, you don't scratch the same itch. It's just fiddly.
Adrian 53:02
if your if your gaming group, you know, ended up splitting up and going across the country or wherever you still wanted to continue gaming. I think that is an amazing platform. Or you know, you've got family across America and big gaming family or you know, wherever they've goneto play through it completely. Absolutely a place for it. I think if I have the option of gaming across a physical table, I will pick that Yeah. 100% over Tabletop Simulator, so I think it has its place I think we can all agree it maybe wasn't for us.
Becky 53:31
It depends on your reason. Points play board games, isn't it? Yeah. And the cute little pieces and tokens that tactility of it. That's really important for me, so it's never gonna be able to replace it.
JP 53:45
never never cool well thanks Stewart. Like always put your questions into the pod. We'll always try and answer them and away we go.
so now we reached the penultimate turn where we talk about what's coming up what are you excited about what's happening? I'm gonna go first this time. Obviously I mentioned at the start of the episode Perseverance has arrived has taken over my gaming room slash dining dining room. So we've got a sneaky game coming up on Friday where we'll probably just play Episode 1 might play it a couple of times because it's a Friday night and we'll see so I'm looking forward to just getting that out and seeing how it kind of fares but actually Food Chain Magnate I forgot this was even in.
Adrian 54:29
you stolen mine but you go for it now so i I'll pick another one as well.
JP 54:34
It's fine. But yeah, food chain magnate is coming up next week. And for those who haven't heard of it is a Splotter Spellen published game which is a Dutch publisher
Adrian 54:45
No idea. All I know is that they have pretty much a motto that says if you can't lose the game in the first turn what's the point of having a first time
JP 54:52
They are the gamers game but they don't look the best. They're very functional. But they've always been held in high regard and I'll treat this as an experiment. I don't know if I'm gonna like this. But I've heard lots of good things about Food Chain Magnate. For those that haven't heard of it. It was centrally 1950s 1960s, fast food, restaurant entrepreneurs. And you essentially are building your company structure from the CEO, which is you all the way down to management, cooks, and all the different things deliveries, and you are trying to make lots of money in corporate fast food America and try to make the other partners go out of business early. And it's just got some really kind of cool, unique ways that you can market it like burgers and hotdogs and flood the market with demand that suddenly other people can't fulfil and it's just interesting. And I'm just yeah, I'm looking forward to giving it a go. You might be there go. Hated it i'm getting rid of it. But I'm up for the experiment
Becky 55:52
It sounds like it's gonna make me want to eat burgers. If i'm honest
JP 55:57
That's me. I'm looking forward to those two,
Adrian 55:59
that pretty much summarises how I feel I've never played a Splotter game before. absolutely want to give one a try. It may be my favourite thing ever. I may hate it instantly.
JP 56:09
I don't know.
Adrian 56:10
I genuinely don't know. But I've it's been on the list for a little while. That's one of the Splotter any of the Splotter games pretty much that get good reviews. So I'm really intrigued to see how it goes. Every time I read a review or see something on Facebook. Everyone like has a laugh about all that time when you flooded the market full of people wanting burgers and you couldn't fulfil it and therefore you lost the game and stuff like that. And you're thinking that's not how things work surely, but game mechanics and what they are. I'm really looking forward to that one. And then hopefully we have It's a Wonderful World coming up. I've spoken about it before. It's a it's an absolute favourite of mine. I'll continue talking about it probably for quite a while yet to come. I'm looking forward to seeing how the other guys find it. You know, so far I've been pretty lucky and the people I've showed it to have really enjoyed it. And I'm hoping that you guys will as well for those that are playing
JP 57:01
I'm sure we will look forward to hopefully getting on that one.
Adrian 57:05
Yeah, we'll make it happen.
JP 57:06
Yeah, absolutely. what about you Becky.
Becky 57:08
Well, I want to play Wingspan with my new little meikles
JP 57:12
Of course you invested in components
Becky 57:16
I want to do some board game artwork from a wall that's not very exciting with regards to it's a new game or anything.
JP 57:23
Doesn't have to be, it's what are you excited about?
Becky 57:25
Yeah, I'm excited I haven't done it yet. Just redoing the kitchen and the board game area so I thought it'd be really nice to have some like we decided on eight of our top board games I'm gonna make some kind of montage board game montage homage
JP 57:41
An homage to a boardgame montage
Becky 57:43
So we'll see what that looks like.
JP 57:46
Now that's cool when for anyone to like I'm sure has picked up back is probably the craft as a craftiest person you love your crafting don't you
Becky 57:59
making fabricating? Yeah, yeah, physically making not just kind of I'm not an artist to kind of a person but I can use software that's fine. That's all you need to do don't need to draw
JP 58:11
fine so basically type person that you you go around the house and it's Christmas and then you walk away with a suitcase tag that has Marvel. Oh, cool.
Becky 58:22
Oh, we didn't know, Adrian I'll make you one so you don't feel left out
Adrian 58:24
That's fine, I was very new to the group that point I won't say
JP 58:28
You don't like mw
Becky 58:29
I still have some of the fabric line I will make it for you
Adrian 58:32
It's all good, It's all good.
JP 58:33
Great, great stuff. So yeah, that's that's where we are and we've reached the time we've got there in the end and as usual when I pack my games away guys as you well know is that
Becky 58:45
You can't leave the door, you must help
JP 58:46
You help, but you collate the components you don't pack it away because I do that and that's because I've got massive OCD and I can't sleep if I know that one of my little tokens isn't in his right home
Becky 58:57
I can't mock you mate
Adrian 59:00
Don't ever go to a board game Cafe
JP 59:03
That would stressed me out that would but there we go, there we go. Cool. So now if you want to get engaged with us as always you got options we seem to be creating more and more options as we go but you got an email address I get as on players@whoseturn.co.uk, or check out Facebook page Whose turn Is It Anyway Podcast, or we are on Instagram @whoseturnpodcastand also TikTok @whoseturnisitanyway. So we'll be back again in another two weeks for another episode. So until then, "whose turn is it?"
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