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It's been it's"},{"speaker":"Chris Priscott","startTime":3843.72,"endTime":3846.57,"body":"been great. I love, I could talk"},{"speaker":"Chris Priscott","startTime":3846.57,"endTime":3849.18,"body":"board games for hours board"},{"speaker":"Chris Priscott","startTime":3846.57,"endTime":3849.18,"body":"games. We do."},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3849.63,"endTime":3855.78,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. Well, when"},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3849.63,"endTime":3855.78,"body":"you're, you're roll and write in"},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3855.78,"endTime":3862.02,"body":"Devon gets gets moving on. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3855.78,"endTime":3862.02,"body":"give us a shout. Awesome. Great."},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3862.02,"endTime":3864.57,"body":"Thank you very much, Chris."},{"speaker":"JP","startTime":3862.02,"endTime":3864.57,"body":"Cool. Thank you. 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