The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins
Throughout the years, I've come to believe two truths: one, everyone leads someone, and two, no one really feels qualified to lead anyone. Add the pressure put on us by culture to have all the answers in a world full of confusion, and you've got a recipe for reluctant leaders.
Thankfully, when it comes to leading in the Bible and in life, the most qualified aren't always the most obvious. This podcast is a conversation for all of us who want to lead well but never feel like we are. New episodes are released on the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays of each month.
The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins
TRLP 042: Karl Vaters challenges our obsession with bigness, and offers a fresh perspective on the future of faith in America
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In this interview, we take a deep dive with Karl Vaters, a seasoned pastor and author, as he challenges the conventional obsession with church size. For over 40 years, Carl has been an advocate for small churches and has worked to redefine success beyond just mere numbers.
Whether you're a church leader feeling the pressure to grow or just curious about the future of faith in America, I think you’ll find this interview fascinating, and Karl’s perspective refreshing.
More from Karl:
Visit his website at karlvaters.com to connect with Karl on all his socials
Grab his newest book, De-Sizing the Church, on Amazon and other retailers
Karl's podcast, The Church Lobby, is worth a listen!
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