TRAINER'S EYE #150 - "Good Morning Hisuian Arcanine" ft. MamaTurbo

MamaTurbo shares the moving story of her son TheTrueTurbo, a passionate Pokémon fan, Shiny Hunter, and Twitch streamer who lived with Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA). From childhood memories to his transition into streaming during the pandemic, she reflects on TheTrueTurbo’s resilience, his love for gaming, and the incredible community that rallied around him. The conversation also explores the emotional weight of his passing and the legacy he left behind, not only as a creator, but as a source of inspiration.

Listen now to hear how one Pokémon Trainer’s story continues to shine through the people who loved him most.

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Sources
Opening Song: "Forget You" by Alex_MakeMusic from Pixabay

Transcript

MamaTurbo: 0:00

I'm Mama Turbo, and this is Turbo's Pokemon Story.

David Hernandez: 0:42

Welcome to as the Pickleball Turns, where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon. My name is David Hernandez. I'm joined by a relative of somebody that was mentioned in the episode of Dragon Tamer Tom and she's here to share her experience, not only with Pokemon, but also with her son and what the franchise kind of did for her, both through Pokemon and Streaming. MamaTurbo, Welcome to As the Ball Turns.

MamaTurbo: 1:07

Thank you.

David Hernandez: 1:08

we were talking just before this and you have such a unique perspective of your son and his journey. One thing I wanna start off with is I wanna start off with his disability. You give insight to what Turbo's disability was and how it kind of affected his life. Before we kind of dive into the Pokemon side of things,

MamaTurbo: 1:27

Turbo had what was called Spinal Muscular Atrophy. It's under the umbrella of the Muscular Dystrophy Association. He was diagnosed at 15 months old, and it is a disease that slowly you lose different things. And in his case, he was never able to walk. He was able to use his hands and he was able to use his arms. he used a motorized wheelchair as he got older. He graduated from college, so he's a college student. He was a college graduate. And, did whatever he really wanted to do. I raised him to do whatever he felt he could do. Sometimes there was limitations and we figured out how to get around it.

David Hernandez: 2:06

it must be hard as a parent, to see your kid, you know, have to go through that kind of disability. You know, you wanna see your kid kind of become who they are. But then you also, on one side you see the disability and the potential. Situations. How did you kind of find that balance to where you empowered turbo to go and do what he felt called to while also, I guess keep in mind, in his disability, like Did you ever feel like you had accidentally limited him by chance or something like that?

MamaTurbo: 2:30

No, I wouldn't allow it. him and his brother who had the same neuromuscular disease. They were raised to do whatever they felt they could do with limitations. I'll tell you a brief story. When Turbo was young, he hadn't gotten his wh any of his wheelchairs yet, and he was in an umbrella stroller and I forget where we were going. And we got somewhere and there was a flight of stairs. And Turbo looked at me and he says to me, ma, how are we gonna, I said, no problem. I lifted him up in his umbrella stroller, and we went up the flight of stairs. And that's the way Turbo's life was. Whatever you want to accomplish, you can.

David Hernandez: 3:08

And I think that's so powerful because it's so easy to either judge people by their disability or even for people who live with disabilities, to feel that they're, I don't wanna say helpless, but that they're less than. And I feel like as regular people, or at least for me, you sometimes focus too much on perfection. That if you aren't a specific way and something's wrong, and I think it's rewarding to see how you, despite turbo's, limitations from the outside, you never let that stop him. And I applaud you for that. That's, that's powerful. I.

MamaTurbo: 3:37

Yeah, that's the way he was raised. I would not allow him nor his brother in any shape make matter or form you could do. Just because you were in a wheelchair and you had limitations, didn't mean you couldn't do something. You were no different than anybody else.

David Hernandez: 3:52

Now let's let the script a little bit, your role in this is that Turbo wanted to be a streamer and you kind of helped him.

MamaTurbo: 3:59

a minute. Wait a minute. Turbo originally wanted to go into TV production Fortunately, his disability kept him out of being anywhere near television production, because of the limitations of the wheelchair, he did have a couple of interviews to get jobs, but because of the disability, he couldn't get one. that basically was his dream. But became a streamer because of Covid. Covid put a halt on his life because prior to that, turbo was. At Rock concerts, he was DJing, he was involved with an organization out in New Jersey, that's no longer there, but it was an Under My Skin For Life Foundation is the name of the foundation. And what they did is they helped a lot of people with different things. we raised money for autism. We raised money for breast cancer. Turbo was involved in this organization. oh, to Turbo also ran, him and his brother put together something called Rock Against Dystrophy. And what that was, was, is he got rock bands to play and people would come and they would pay to see the bands. And the money that was raised was donated to the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Turbo did have covid, thank God it didn't take him. that's when he decided, ma, I have to do something. I don't know how long this is going to last. I cannot sit here doing nothing. I don't know how he found the streaming community that I can't tell you I don't remember. All I remember is him saying to me, ma, I wanna stream. I said, knock yourself out.

David Hernandez: 5:34

And so when he came to you and he told you that I wanted to stream ma how'd that conversation happen and what were the next steps that either you or him took?

MamaTurbo: 5:42

At that particular time, turbo was still very mobile. he could play a lot of games because he was able to, set the controller for one-handed controls. So he was able to play a lot of different games. Of course, as not being able to maneuver and go out because of Covid. That's when you start losing things with his form of disability. It's the old story. If you don't use it, you lose it. It's the same as for us. you stop doing certain things for whatever reason you break a leg or whatever you wind up doing, you, you're gonna lose it. And because he couldn't get out and start moving around like he did before,'cause he went all, we went all over the place.

David Hernandez: 6:26

Mm-hmm.

MamaTurbo: 6:26

oh, you name the concert took Turbo. If Turbo didn't go with me, he had friends that went with him. He would take Access-A-Ride here in the city and usually I would pick him up in the city. So Turbo had no limitations until Covid hit. Covid is what made him a streamer?

David Hernandez: 6:43

It sounds like it was a double-edged sword in a way to where a, I don't wanna say motivated, it kind of was a catalyst to lead him into streaming and to lead him into that, I guess, close neighborhood of production. The downside was, it also, it sounded like put a timer on him.

MamaTurbo: 7:00

He was, he was getting weaker as time went on. but the icing on the cake is basically when his brother passed, I think he kind of gave up.

David Hernandez: 7:12

Must have been very difficult for both you and him to go through.

MamaTurbo: 7:16

Well, his brother passed here in the house. So, and even though they weren't close, because his brother had, medical conditions where they, they really, when they were younger, used to be in the same room playing video games, but his brother wound up with a medical situation where he wound up with a trach and a feeding tube and he had to have nurses and he couldn't come in his brother's room like he used to and play video games with his brother. So, but when his brother passed, he kind of gave up, I think.

David Hernandez: 7:49

What do you remember about, turbo and his brother playing games? Like what was that kind of a connection relationship like?

MamaTurbo: 7:54

oh, they were wicked. They, oh, they were wicked. when the cube was out, they played animal crossings. We played animal crossings, the three of us. And when they got older and John went into the streaming, his brother, Jay would watch and Jay all his brother Jay also watched Tom a lot. But the streaming was what he wanted to do. It kept his mind occupied, it gave him what to do. It gave him purpose, gave him reason to get up every morning. He got up every morning. he had a good morning message for everybody. I don't know how many Discords he was in, but this kid would say good morning to like, I don't know how many people, his phone is still active. I still have his phone. I don't even go into his discord because I don't even know how many people he was. I mean, and, and we watched some of, some of the bigger, we watched, reversal, watched, oh God reversal. He watched, he watched Finn Finnegan at night. oh God, we wa there's so many of them. I, I even forget them. But we watched a lot of different streamers and they all knew Turbo. all knew him. He came in, he'd come in, he'd say hello, he'd watch, he'd send his bits and stuff like that. And, John got two authentic, cups. I don't know what they would and, and got them randomly. He just ran into them and

David Hernandez: 9:19

Okay.

MamaTurbo: 9:20

They were shinies he said to me, he said, ma, I got these. And never got that stupid fish that he used to go after and like it, it didn't make, it didn't make a big deal. I said, John, you are not a big streamer. You're a little fish in a big pond. I said, you have a lot of these other streamers out there who were extremely big, and basically the only thing Turbo wanted to do was he wanted to become partner so he could let people know that if I can do it, anybody can do it.

David Hernandez: 9:54

Wow. He took your words to heart. You know, you raised him that way.

MamaTurbo: 9:57

yeah, yeah, yeah. He wanted people to know that just because he was disabled, the mind is there. See, that's the part that everybody seems to forget. You meet somebody that has abil disability, and I hate to put it this way, I hate to say it this way. You think they're an idiot

David Hernandez: 10:16

Unfortunately, yes.

MamaTurbo: 10:16

they're not. And they're not. A lot of people do have where they're not highly intelligent, but then there are those that are highly intelligent and you don't, A lot of, a lot of people don't give the disabled person a chance show who they are. take it for granted, oh, you're disabled, you're an idiot. the bottom line is, even though they may not look like there, um, how am I going to put this politely? the brightest star in the sky.

David Hernandez: 10:51

Yes.

MamaTurbo: 10:52

person has their own thing that they are good with, and that includes us whether you have a disability or not.

David Hernandez: 11:00

Yes.

MamaTurbo: 11:01

everybody is smart. Not everybody knows everything. Okay? there are those out there that no, but people, they look at somebody and they go, well, you don't know. People look at me because I'm no youngster. like, yeah, okay. You don't know.

David Hernandez: 11:18

when it came to Turbo and you said he looked up to the bigger streamers. How important were they to his wellbeing as well as just his motivation from day to day?

MamaTurbo: 11:28

in the beginning he looked up to them, to see how they did things you know, try and figure out how they got where they are. But because of the limita, a little bit of a limitation that Turbo had in the beginning. Not in the beginning, but in the end there was a time where he was running himself ragged. And I said to him, you can't do the hours that these other streamers are doing. Physically. You can't do it. there was a time where Turbo was streaming too many hours in a day. and he, and when he streamed, he didn't drink anything. He didn't wanna interrupt his stream, which for him was not

David Hernandez: 12:02

Oh.

MamaTurbo: 12:03

Right. Okay.

David Hernandez: 12:05

So he would stream, like say for example, eight to 12 hours in a row and he wouldn't drink nothing.

MamaTurbo: 12:09

he wouldn't go that far there. But there was a past, sometimes he, he tried to go for like five hours. And then I said to him, so I, I realize you were in a spot where you wanted to go on, but look what you did to yourself. Now you can't stream for two days because you're out of it. You've got to find your niche on how many hours. I says, and let me tell you something, if people want to watch you, they will. he had, he, matter of fact, I'm still friends. He had a, streamer, we called him Santa. He goes by another name right now. And Santa told him, I. If they want to watch you, they will come and watch you, but you need to do what you need to do for you. And he listened to him and that's when he did whatever, you know, he took days off it, you know, when it, it got to the point where he wasn't, you know, feeling up to snuff. And I'd say to him, turbo, don't feel a hundred peRCent no, I'm all right ma. But I mean, he, he wouldn't eat in between streams. He would, he barely drank in between. I used to say to him, you gotta drink. No, I can't. because he, his jaw was atrophied, so he had to do things in certain manners in certain ways, and I guess he was embarrassed with it. So, you know, he put on a, be right back and he'd take a sip, but it wasn't enough to get a complete nourishment. I. That was kind of a little bit of our fights, you know, that's what we would, you know, argue with Turbo. You have to eat. Yeah, I ma I gotta stream. No, you got to eat. No, I gotta stream.

David Hernandez: 13:38

so at what point did you try to start helping them?'cause I know you had like a background role when it came to Turbo, right?

MamaTurbo: 13:44

my role was setting him up, getting the games ready, and depending on what he was playing was whether or not my hands were needed to play the game. That's what it came down to. there were a couple of games he was able to play by himself. there was one where you had a collect, you had a, you went through with an area and you collect Pokemons. I forget what it was. I'm, I'm bad at the Pokemon games. but the one, game that He had gotten me into, um, win Waker. Zelda win Waker, and we were playing that. And then when ARCeus came out, now that's Pokemon ARCeus. Am I correct?

David Hernandez: 14:20

Yes. You got it right? Yeah.

MamaTurbo: 14:22

That Pokemon ARCeus reminded me of Legends of Zelda. And I said to him, I can play this. He says, no you can't. I said, yeah, I can. And I'll never forget the night I found I caught my first shiny. I was like, that's a shiny.

David Hernandez: 14:39

Ooh, what was it?

MamaTurbo: 14:41

yeah, no, I don't, I don't remember what it was. And he says, yeah, ma, that's a shiny. So after this, after catching the first shiny, I says to him, Could you please tell me what we're going after? And out came the phone and I typed it in and I said, okay, now I know what I'm looking for,

David Hernandez: 14:59

Nice.

MamaTurbo: 15:00

clue. I,

David Hernandez: 15:01

Right.

MamaTurbo: 15:01

I never played Pokemon. They did, they, I have of Ds Pokemon games and three Ds Pokemon games, and him and his brother played those. But I never played Pokemon. So, I don't know from Pokemon, but he got me hooked on Zelda. And ARCeus was it very much like Zelda. And he did play ARCeus in the beginning, but then as he started to lose his strength he couldn't play it by himself anymore, and he said, ma, would you play it with me? And I said, of course, I'll play it with you. So my schedule revolved around making dinner and it's like, time are you streaming? all right. Everybody's gotta eat by this time because mom's gotta help him play.

David Hernandez: 15:44

When it came to, you helping your son play legends, Arceus and of course you finally got more interested in playing it, what did you remember about playing that game?

MamaTurbo: 15:53

Just going after Shinies. That was it.

David Hernandez: 15:56

really shiny hunting.

MamaTurbo: 15:59

He was a shiny hunter. He, he, he did

David Hernandez: 16:01

Okay.

MamaTurbo: 16:02

and, and, and, he went after, a, a monkey, don't ask me the name of it, monkey. I'd have to look it up. But he bought a banana shirt. He bought a banana tie. just couldn't catch this stupid monkey. One night I said to him, I'll eat a banana. Maybe you'll find it. That didn't help. I think he finally, he finally got it. he was going, he did everything he could to get this stupid monkey, and, and to this day, I really don't know if he, if he did get it or he didn't get it, there was, one looks like a, it looked to me, well, to us it looked like our, our dog, Theo, it was black and white. Tom knows he, matter of fact, he's got it on his stream and that's turbo. and, I'm something else that Tom uses as the little, the little icons when he streams. but yeah, a couple of them, he named after our animals and the two dogs that we had and stuff. But he, he liked, he liked to go, he liked his Shiny Hunting. And and the best was, is Bo both Turbo and his brother. They'd laugh at

David Hernandez: 17:06

Aw.

MamaTurbo: 17:07

because half the time I couldn't print. No, they laugh at me because half the time I couldn't pronounce the stupid Pokemon. And I'd look at it and I'm going, but that doesn't look like the name. It, it should be called something else. And he said, ma, that's the name of the Pokemon. I'm like, okay The one that, turbo named Theo, whatever it was, that was just because he named it Theo. And then, his brother Jay named, a Pokemon that he liked for his little girl, Harley. And that was it.

David Hernandez: 17:38

they were named after, I guess, y'all's dogs, is that correct?

MamaTurbo: 17:41

yeah, they were after they were named after both of our dogs passed.

David Hernandez: 17:45

was it the, I guess, how important are pets for you and your family? I know that that played a huge role in Turbo, if I'm not mistaken.

MamaTurbo: 17:51

Well, Back in 2009 when Jay came home after he had his medical situation, my niece was breeding Chihuahuas, and Jay had had some other things that went down and my niece was breeding them. And she says, why don't you get dogs for the kids? And I said, no, I don't know. And the boys would look and see the dogs that she was, the litters that she was getting and this, that and the other thing. And I kind of finally gave in because, but it had to be ones that are small because I could not walk these dogs because I had to take care at the time. were, John did not have anyone helping him, with his disability except myself. So Jay had nurses, but I still had to be here to make sure that everything was done properly. So there was always someone home. If I wasn't home, their dad was home. But most of the time I was home and everything. When we didn't have nurses or his brother Jay, I was the nurse. So the chihuahuas were perfect. So my niece said, I'll give you a dog for Jay, I said, okay. So it all came about. Josh looked at the litter he chose this little brown and white fluff ball, and he named her Harley after Harley Quinn. No doubt about it. That's how he named her. And she had a heart. She had a brown heart on her white butt. She had a heart on her tush and her name was Harley. And it was true. It's true. that was how Harley, so now Turbo looks at me and he says, ma, what about me? I said, what about you? Well, can I have one too? There were three to the litter. wound up taking a brother and sister, which was Harley and Theo. And then they had their brother, who my sister-in-law named Mr. Magoo, and he was your typical Taco Bell dog. I didn't take him. I should have, I should have, I should have taken all three to the litter. And I didn't my husband had said, you should have taken all three to the litter. You should have taken, you should have taken, Mr. Magoo also. But I didn't. I took Theo and Harley Theo turned out to be a service dog. He was never trained. as Turbo started be as strong as he was, there was a time where Theo was, would be in his room where I am now. he looked at Theo and he said, go get mom. And here came Theo running into the kitchen, which is not far. And he stood there barking and barking and barking. And I'm like, what are you barking at? I said, does John need me? and I got up and I came inside and sure enough, John needed me. that's how close Turbo was with his dog. Theo constantly was up in Turbo's bed, laying in Turbo's bed. our Harley used, we used to tell Harley when she was younger, she would be able to jump up on, we used to tell her, go wake up Turbo. She'd come running outta the kitchen, jumping up on his bed and licking his face. Okay, time to get up. So that was the first dogs. And then, when, theo passed away and then I had to put my Harley down. And they said, can we get a dog now? I said, no, because Holly was already blind. had Cushing's disease where she couldn't, she used to go from her crate. She was able to walk from the crate, which was in, is, which is in John's room to, out of the john's room, to the wee wee pit. And then after that, there was a spot between the living room and the dining room the apartment. And that's where she would stay. And we had to put wall to wall chucks because she could not hold her urine. And she was blind.

David Hernandez: 22:19

So we talked about how Turbo started streaming you were, his hands basically on games that he couldn't play He made it to, I believe, his third anniversary. He didn't make it to his fourth. Is that correct?

MamaTurbo: 22:30

Yes he did.

David Hernandez: 22:32

Was that difficult for you to kind of go through the fact that, he didn't make it that far? Do you ever think about it? Sometimes I.

MamaTurbo: 22:44

Yes and no. Yes and no. Everything is still in his room. His gaming system, his computers, his game, his headsets, his incentives that he used, his streaming, it's still here. It's, they're only, he's only gonna be gone two years. So, um, yeah, it's kind of hard, but it's something that happened. It's not something that, um, anybody could have changed. It's what happened. Do I miss them? Yeah, I miss them both. But it is what it is. You know, thank, I have to say, thank God the streaming community of turbos have allowed me to be part of their streams, even if I'm just lurking. And, um, to me that that's enough in itself. That's kind of my sanity because, um, I, I made them laugh last night when we were playing kart. I said, they were saying, oh, it's late, it's one o'clock. It's like, oh, it's late. I said Late. I said, I don't go to bed before four in the morning Well, Here's the thing. I'm on turbo time. Turbo time was, I didn't go to bed until everybody else went to bed. And there were times that Turbo didn't go to bed till four in the morning. So

David Hernandez: 24:32

You find yourself trying to, I guess, live how Turbo lived as streaming to kind of preserve his memory in a way.

MamaTurbo: 24:39

no, not really.'cause I, I could, I have his streaming computer, I know how to set, it up, but I don't know how to open up anything. And I'm sure that if I wanted to and open up his computer and open up his stream and just let people know that it was me, I could, because I'm sure his mods would help me as

David Hernandez: 25:01

Mm-hmm.

MamaTurbo: 25:01

others out there in the community. But it's not something that I have to do. wasn't me, that was him. And I'll leave that for him. I will play. Mario with Tom. I will watch Tom, I will, cheer them on him. Savvy, Kung Fu Kenny. The three of them have been, a savior for me because, at night and I know it sounds crazy, but the TV's on, I'm playing on the computer and I have them in my ear. And then there are times I am playing one of the video games, whether it be, Disney Dream World, which is a game that Turbo got me hooked on, and I'm playing his, I have my own, but I am playing Turbo's Disney Dream World. and I played, Mario Luigi, the Brothership. Which I have to finish. I played Mario, Luigi's Mansion two that I have to finish. And I have other games that I bought, that I haven't even opened up. I have three other games that I bought, primarily Mario games. One is Mario Wonder, donkey Kong and Lego Horizons, because I have played, every Lego game that's out has been out for the Minecraft. I'm not a Minecraft person. So I, I tried it, downloaded the trial and went, this is not for me. I know my limitations oh, I have to finish what I have. I have this little, little voice in my head that keeps saying, ma, these before you open the others. I know you can do it. So I have two that are opened and I just have to set my mind to finishing them and then I can go on from there.

David Hernandez: 26:51

I know that you know the way Turbo's room is still set up the same way. Do you ever get tempted to kind of go through his Pokemon game sometimes to see kind of where he left off?

MamaTurbo: 26:59

No, because I don't wanna mess anything up, not knowing what's there. He has, Pokemon Home and he's got it all, and Turbo was a big collector of, of a lot of things. Matter of fact, I sent Tom a list of Pokemon games that I have, if there was anything there, anybody that was interested in, and that was just what was on the Ds and the three Ds. You have to understand what I have of turbos between Turbo and Jay. This was all their stuff. Am I getting the new switch? Yes. Only because it's backwards compatible and Turbo would've bought it. And I gotta play the new Mario card. So yeah, no, I, I, I can't open his games. I don't know what I'm doing with Pokemon, so it doesn't pay for me to open something that I don't know what I'm doing. That's why, I haven't been able to play it. That was the game that Turbo and I played together. And I just can't bring myself, I don't know what I'm doing in it. I played it, I enjoyed it. But you know, when you had somebody helping you because they knew it better than you, that was turbo. with his help, was able to do it. And we played it together. It was, you know, it, we

David Hernandez: 28:08

Yeah. So it sounds like a, a bonding moment between mother and son almost.

MamaTurbo: 28:12

Yeah. It, it was, And I was, you know, I was proud when he found the shinies that he was looking for, because that's what he did. He was a shiny hunter.

David Hernandez: 28:22

how do you want people to remember the true turbo? What do you want people to say? That's his legacy?

MamaTurbo: 28:32

That he was a good person and what I heard from others is that very compassionate towards others and he was always there for others. That's all I heard he passed and in the, and, and like I said, a lot, you know, didn't realize until after he passed how many people knew him in the community. In the streaming community. Tom said to me, you can't imagine the amount of people. He says that, that people that knew him. I'm like, I don't know. I, I, I don't know. He would, like I said, he'd get up every morning and he'd do

David Hernandez: 29:22

Yeah, and I mean, just think about the dedication to that. How many of us could say we message every single person or every single community we're in? Good morning. That's something so simple, but that's dedication. That's how much heart that the true turbo had.

MamaTurbo: 29:40

but I want you, do you know that there were people that got

David Hernandez: 29:44

I'm sure.

MamaTurbo: 29:45

he

David Hernandez: 29:46

Sadly, I.

MamaTurbo: 29:46

morning, which I think was totally stupid. You didn't have to answer him. All he was saying was. Have a good morning or whatever he would, whatever message he would put up. What was so hard about that, that he actually, people actually had had, messaged him and said to him, please don't send me your good mornings anymore, which I thought was disgusting. That was my per, that's my personal opinion. I think it's disgusting, not because it was my son, because you that self-centered that you don't want somebody to say good morning to you?

David Hernandez: 30:25

I think unfortunately you'd be surprised by how self-centered people can be. I think it even goes back to that first message from Santa, uh, that you mentioned. People are only gonna watch. They wanna watch you. I. People are only gonna appreciate you if they appreciate you. Don't go where you don't feel appreciated. And I think that's very important lesson that if I bug you by saying, good morning, I hope you have a nice day. Kill him with kindness. I think that's what turbo exemplified in my opinion.

MamaTurbo: 30:54

Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was a, He was a good person.

David Hernandez: 30:58

Absolutely.

MamaTurbo: 30:58

was. He thought he, he was considerate of others. He was always there. If somebody had a problem, he, he never hesitated to try and help them if he could, or send them in the right direction. He was a really smart person, you know, just'cause he had a disability, it didn't mean anything.

David Hernandez: 31:17

I mean, it shows how much you raised a good son. he was very adamant, very strong-willed obviously,'cause he became a streamer. He could have. And you know, people say they couldn't, you know, they wouldn't do it. And he was very caring. And I think it shows, I think his legacy does live on, maybe lives on in the memory of hearts and the way we feel about him. I've never met the true turbo, I've never known him, but because I heard him from other people, his legacy now lives on in me in a different way. And I think that's the power of somebody who I. People would probably, you know, in a regular real world, would throw off or figure like, you know, useless. Yes,

MamaTurbo: 31:57

tell you, Palm just caught that monkey that Turbo was trying to, and he named it the true turbo, so that, and there was a lot like, two of Tom's mods was mods for turbo, triple and hyper. Hyper was very much, a mod for John and Triple So was Triple I. I remember when Triple first started doing editing for John, and John was teaching him because John went to school for it. He was in TV broadcasting, so he was helping Triple and from what I've seen, triple does fabulous work. He's done three of Tom's videos, which I am in one of his videos. When someone comes in and they, they, you know, they come in, he says, you know, you gotta pick one, two, or three. I'm in one of them they got me to say, they got me to say something and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in it. And I'm like, okay, I don't care. You know, listen, whatever will work for you guys. That's fine. That's like after, turbo had passed, I had said, and they were gonna do Mario Kart. I, I said to Hyper, I says, is it okay if I play? I said, because this is Tom's stream. They said, no, no, you have to play Mario Kart. You are a part of Mario Kart. We are doing this in memory of Turbo. This is something that Turbo always did, either on a Fri on a Friday night, and you have to be a part of Mario Kart.'cause there was a time where, there was something said about, it was only VIPs or something. I didn't understand what it and I had messaged Hyper and I said to him, is it okay if I play? I says,'cause this is not my stream. I, you know, this is not for me. I'm here for you guys. You were there for him. For Turbo, the least I can do is, and you are giving me my sanity because when it's a rough night, you guys are there, And they said, yeah, you gotta be here. I'm like, okay, And now, like I said, now I'm Mario Car Knight. They got me in Discord. They got me in talking to everybody. And it's like, oh. And it's like, okay. but yeah, that's, you know, basically, you know, it's what it is. It's, it's keeping him, him, his memory with us.