The Greatest Non Hits

Willie Nelson: The Great Divide

• Chris & Tim • Season 4 • Episode 13

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Forget the neat boxes and old assumptions—The Great Divide shows Willie Nelson coloring outside the lines with a full palette of collaborators, writers, and styles. We roll through all twelve tracks and talk honestly about what soars, what sags, and why this 2002 curveball still sparks debate. From the radio-ready snap of Maria (Shut Up and Kiss Me), penned by Rob Thomas, to the string-laced ache of Mendocino County Line with LeAnn Womack, the album keeps pivoting—sometimes smooth as velvet, sometimes rough with grit—and that friction is the point.

We unpack how Kid Rock’s gravel pushes against Willie’s calm on Last Stand in Open Country, why Sheryl Crow’s harmonies on Be There for You give the chorus its backbone, and how Bernie Taupin’s storytelling muscle stitches American myth into modern production. The title track becomes our compass—starting small, swelling big, and braiding Western and Latin colors without losing Willie’s porch-swing ease. And then there’s the curve we didn’t see coming: Just Dropped In, a psychedelic cover that crackles with personality and proves that interpretation can be its own brand of authorship.

If you care about how legends evolve, collaborate, and curate, this listen is a master class in choices: arrangements that expand without suffocating, vocals that stay human inside glossy rooms, and a tracklist that risks inconsistency to chase moments of real spark. We share candid highlights, lowlights, and our final non-hit rankings so you can argue back with your own. Hit play, ride shotgun through the twists, and tell us where you land. If this breakdown moved you or made you rethink the record, follow the show, leave a review, and share it with a friend who loves a good album debate.

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SPEAKER_16:

Alright, thank you for listening to The Greatest Non Hits. I'm Chris, and playing Maria Shut Up and Kiss Me is my co-host Tim. That's uh one of the songs on Willie Nelson's The Great Divide, which is gonna be the subject of our podcast today. Again, thank you all for listening. Um like we do on all of our podcasts, we're gonna listen to all the songs on this album, and at the end, rank the top three of the songs that are not hits. Yeah. So there's a couple of songs that were singles on this album. Um the first one is Mendocino County Line. It's a duet with um Willie Nelson and uh Leanne Womack. And then uh Maria, and then in quotes, or parentheses, Shut Up and Kiss Me, is a song. It was actually written by Rob Thomas. So this is a sort of like a collaborative effort where uh and this probably isn't his most original and authentic album. You know, this is uh an album where he's collaborating with a lot of different um songwriters, stars, up-and-coming artists, um all of the songs. Um Mendocino County Lions duet with Leanne Womack, like I mentioned. Um Last Stand in Open Country, which is the third song, is a duet with Kid Rock. Um Be There For You, a duet with Cheryl Crow, that's another song on the album. Uh let's see, uh there's a song called Don't Fade Away, duet with Brian McKnight, and then the very last song, You Remain, is uh a duet with Bonnie Ray. So we're gonna listen to all 12 of the songs, and um there are some other people that wrote songs on here too, like the song Time After Time is a remake with with uh Cindy Lauper. Okay. So there was that. We're gonna listen to that. Okay, that's kinda cool. I've listened to this album. I've listened to like the first five or six songs a bunch of times, and then I can never get through it all the way to the end, I'll be honest with you. So yeah, that's that's sort of where we're at. But I'm gonna g we're gonna listen to every single one of them. Give it give them all a fair shot. Maybe this happens often where you listen to an album beginning to end with your undivided attention, and then that's when you kinda see you know, you hear it from a uh like a completely different point of view. Or at least uh an album that you haven't you're not really that much familiar with. So um yeah, I'm looking forward to it. You know, 10 minutes too. We've got some funny sound clips, we're gonna yuck it up and go back and forth, you know, like we always do. And um so what else can I say about this album? It was it seems like it was recorded uh primarily in 2001. It was released in 2002. Um it's the emphasis again, like I said, is on the collaborations. Yeah, this is this is a technique it it felt like that um like the music industry was employing where they would uh reach out to artists that are well and I guess in the case of Leanne Womack, you know, they're both sort of in the country realm. Um and that's where they you know earn their fan fan bases. Uh but then like at the time, you know, in 2001, you know, Kid Rock was just coming around, and so he's more of a rock guy, but a country guy too. And so um Sheryl Crow was more you know within the pop culture realm, although she was a little country, I guess. And there's of course Brian McKeight. So anyway, yeah, there's a lot of yeah, there's a lot of collaborating with a lot of big names. Um not just on like the um the duet, but uh the songwriting. Like I mentioned before, Rob Thomas is writing Maria. Uh Bernie Taupin wrote Last Stand in Open Country, which is the uh the duet with Kid Rock.

SPEAKER_00:

So the guy behind the guy, behind the guy.

SPEAKER_16:

Alright, thank you, Tim. He is the guy behind the guy, behind the guy. Bernie Top and the man, the legend. So this was pretty good.

SPEAKER_02:

Will he's a legend. Uh I'm not sure if he uses uh toilet paper, but I'm imagining that he does. Maybe it's a handy toilet paper. Or maybe he uses the day guy. You know, he plays the same guitar. It's got the hole in it, you know. It's just like he's had one guitar in his whole career.

SPEAKER_16:

You're referring to him being in the air force back in the day. He wasn't the Air Force. That's from nineteen seventy-three. He was in the he was in the Air Force. In nineteen fifty, he joined the US Air Force. He was later discharged in the background. He was a discharge.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I just sort of Mendocino County line. I thought it was such a great song, so I just kind of shouldn't. I love the song, you know. Lovely song. Of course.

SPEAKER_16:

Alright, cool. Um we ready to get in it. Any any last thoughts? Uh anything in particular you uh had in mind forever hold your peace.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh gosh. I mean, I don't even I don't know. I'm not gonna say anything.

SPEAKER_16:

Alright, well let's get right into it then. This is gonna be uh Maria Shut Up and Kiss Me. There we go.

SPEAKER_01:

Shut up. I didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_09:

That's my favorite part. Rewind my life on when my world got dark.

SPEAKER_02:

I messed my knobs already. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

You turn my light on. I've watched it. That's what she said. Light of my light.

SPEAKER_02:

I watched the shining last night as well. We're gonna get yeah, we're gonna get good flip. Just see how hours.

SPEAKER_09:

More than I need it to be, I'd say I'm sorry. Shut up and kiss me. Stop shaking, stand up and hold me. I bet you're gonna miss me. You need to believe me. Shut up.

SPEAKER_15:

Weren't you a Rob Thomas fan? Oh, matchbox 20.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you loved it. Man, back in the day. I lighted on fire with that matchbox. Yeah. That 20 back batches of matches. That's right.

SPEAKER_09:

That's my favorite shirt.

SPEAKER_16:

Shirt?

SPEAKER_09:

You always had on the side.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, what is this? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not always like, oh man, she wore that shirt. I mean, unless it's a tube top or something cool like that.

SPEAKER_06:

Every time you walk on, I don't know, but I remember the shirt.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I mean Yeah, she wore the shirt and it just got a color. Yeah. A certain color.

SPEAKER_09:

Something I can't explain. Can't explain. Shut up and miss me, stuff. You're gonna miss me.

SPEAKER_07:

You need me to be up.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like those Rob Thomas horns are in the background.

SPEAKER_07:

So you can't turn me on.

SPEAKER_02:

The horn people, they're definitely on dope.

SPEAKER_07:

What are you people? On dope? Can we talk it horn?

SPEAKER_17:

What the fuck are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02:

It's crying.

SPEAKER_07:

It's a beat.

SPEAKER_02:

But there's an underlying like Just calm down. Oh, don't tell her to calm down.

SPEAKER_09:

That's the way that's can't do that.

SPEAKER_02:

We gotta address why she's pissed off.

SPEAKER_09:

Shut up and piss me. Shut up and piss me. Shut the fuck up, Donnie.

SPEAKER_02:

Round and round. Round and round we go here. Burning. Oh the whistle.

SPEAKER_15:

I love the little whistle.

SPEAKER_16:

Good music.

SPEAKER_02:

But still the Rob Thomas horns. Screams make up sex all over us. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_16:

Going right in the Mendocino County Line.

SPEAKER_09:

Counted stars on the fourth of July. Wishing we were rockets first into the sky, talking about redemption and leaving things behind.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, the strings.

SPEAKER_01:

I like that feeling. Our orchestrated paradise couldn't make you stay.

SPEAKER_04:

As the sun sinks west of the Millestinal Kelvin.

SPEAKER_16:

Darling. I'm happy. It's like right when I'm getting into this song.

SPEAKER_15:

I had to yank you out of it. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Oh, the photograph.

SPEAKER_04:

I used to make you happy. What's the phone? I'm happy.

SPEAKER_02:

So let's go. Maybe.

SPEAKER_09:

Feeling very mortal every Friday night. Oh.

SPEAKER_04:

Lost in Archives' lipstick with wine.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Greg Leeds. This must have been exhausting to get right. Yeah. I have these things. Alex and Krause is on fiddle, wow.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, playing the fiddle.

SPEAKER_08:

Remind me of a time.

SPEAKER_16:

Dan Dugmore's steel guitar.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm a sucker for that. I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_14:

Talking over me now. Spent time with an angel just passed in through. Now it's all that's left is this image of you. Oh, kinda like the shining, but that's like a demon? Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna get tie into your sound clip. There we go. There we go. Make it make sense.

SPEAKER_16:

The Shining took place in the middle of winter, so I feel like seasonally we're off.

SPEAKER_02:

But how could I overlook that?

SPEAKER_15:

Yeah, we get to.

SPEAKER_17:

How could I overlook that? I know. I mean, your now is my now. That's right. Our now.

SPEAKER_16:

It's bad.

SPEAKER_12:

Remember that these are just temple farmers. These are people of the land.

SPEAKER_16:

Shout out to Gene Wilder. Oh god. It's getting me. You're getting for clamps. Oh god. I'm not a crier. I don't I'm not a crier. I don't cry. I I work out. I have hobbies. I don't I don't come here.

SPEAKER_14:

Come here. Come on. I have hobbies.

SPEAKER_02:

Like podcasting. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a crier. Not a crier.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_16:

So the next song is just This is the kid rocking.

SPEAKER_09:

I was looking for America. Last stand in the movie.

SPEAKER_16:

Country.

SPEAKER_09:

So a young gunslinger was something to prove. That's like going out there with a loaded gun. Like anybody else. I came searching. Like anybody else. Looking forward to the case. Like the bass on this.

SPEAKER_06:

Like any young blood. I found fat cats today.

SPEAKER_16:

The producer too, Matt Sirletic. Plays some electronics at that.

SPEAKER_04:

Now it's our last time open country.

SPEAKER_16:

And Toppin wrote this one too.

SPEAKER_07:

This is my last time to be with you.

SPEAKER_04:

This is the last death. I'm still up here.

SPEAKER_08:

Then they all might stand out.

SPEAKER_06:

It's like an auto.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. Electronics done. Yeah, that's something.

SPEAKER_09:

I'm a ladder, I am a black.

SPEAKER_16:

Gonna why wasn't this a good? This is good.

SPEAKER_04:

I was looking for America.

SPEAKER_16:

Might be James Creek and do that. That doesn't weird. Yep.

SPEAKER_09:

He was headed down, the dusty back. Headed down to the black bag.

SPEAKER_04:

Chasing down the back.

SPEAKER_14:

Jason down the golden cap. Yeah, I don't know. Idol.

SPEAKER_09:

Stop on faster.

SPEAKER_15:

It's like a younger horse pride kid rock.

SPEAKER_02:

Got a dust off.

SPEAKER_09:

Now it's our last dust yourself off. Situate those old balls.

SPEAKER_15:

Just get out of there. Yeah, we have to get that clip out of there. Love place.

SPEAKER_02:

Death strings. I like the strike. And I like to distortion. And you can hear a band. I mean. This is way better than a country song that I and Kid Rock's voice is has that raspiness to it. Willie has always had that like pureness of voice. Sort of almost like he's talking, but not quite. Okay. And then Kid Rock clearly has to try really hard to just sound like that. It's pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_16:

Okay, there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. Yeah. That's a nod hit, so I'm gonna keep that in mind. This is it won't catch me crying.

SPEAKER_00:

Are you crying? Am I crying?

SPEAKER_16:

This is also written by Rob Rob Thomas.

SPEAKER_14:

Or will you shut up and kiss me and then catch me crying? 3 a.m.

SPEAKER_02:

That's when he writes all his songs.

SPEAKER_09:

Your five sweepers far away from you.

SPEAKER_16:

This is like the touching part of the song. Just like you're rumining this for me. There's gotta be some guy like in his truck. Yeah, just got broke up, and he's just like, God damn it, he's listening to this.

SPEAKER_15:

But then he sees a deer, so he gets his wings. He sees a Hooters down the road. He's like some wings. Yeah, he gets some wings.

SPEAKER_02:

Beverly can use just go kiss off down the road. At Jimbo's house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_16:

Heard Tammy Link got the Jazz Tutors. Let's go check it out. Tammy Lynch. Tammy Lane. Nancy Lane. Anything with a land on the edge.

SPEAKER_09:

You won't catch me crying over you.

SPEAKER_16:

Thank you. Daniel's work. I know, yeah. I was about to start getting for claims, and then what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_09:

Aren't you? Yes, I love you and sweet. You've got two hobbies and catch me crying over you.

SPEAKER_17:

Like you all catch me crying. Classical, like you all catch me crying.

SPEAKER_02:

You all catch me crying. Simple lines here.

SPEAKER_10:

Over you simple lines intertwining.

SPEAKER_12:

Excuse me, Flo.

SPEAKER_16:

Alright, this is Be There For You. It's a Cheryl Crow duet.

SPEAKER_03:

She's magically delicious. She just the way that you kiss me.

SPEAKER_08:

She's just the way that you don't.

SPEAKER_02:

But she's not on dope. Ah yeah, she is. They're both on dope, aren't they? It's like a free rack before recording.

SPEAKER_08:

When you swear that you walk.

SPEAKER_07:

When we talk on the phone. What are you people? On dope. Mr.

SPEAKER_16:

Hand. Yeah, that that seems that seemed necessary on some level. Mr. Hand.

SPEAKER_08:

Whatever you do, I will be there for you. Through the thunder of the rain.

SPEAKER_04:

And whatever you do, I will almost do you, I will be there.

SPEAKER_16:

This this album gets you right here. Oh, good bassing going on in electronics.

SPEAKER_09:

I may like social graces. Huh? But I won't swallow my pride. There are millions of places could be by nearby.

SPEAKER_10:

Whatever you do, I think toy.

SPEAKER_04:

Whatever you do, I would do it.

SPEAKER_02:

It's complex.

SPEAKER_16:

What do you have what do you think it does with it?

SPEAKER_13:

I mean, it's not just it might not be just such a simple.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

What's that little show? Shout out to uh Shout out to the the runners, actually. Shout out to the runners out there. And Waiting Gar. Yes.

SPEAKER_13:

You're running around.

SPEAKER_16:

Shout out to my cousin Chris.

SPEAKER_09:

This is the great divine.

SPEAKER_10:

Here we are. Simple lines intertwining. Acting like two crazy kids.

SPEAKER_09:

We've come too far. To ever see it in like this.

SPEAKER_03:

I like you.

SPEAKER_02:

Gotta dart in your deck. Gotta dart in your deck. No shooting darts at people. Come on, we're kinda trying to come together, okay?

SPEAKER_09:

Remember how we used to dance together. So let's dance. You ask me if I'd leave, and I said that right. And that's still right. Alright, Hamilton! Summer sun.

SPEAKER_02:

Hamilton loves the summer. He's always working, but he loves it.

SPEAKER_09:

Summer garn.

SPEAKER_02:

Summer, winter, it's all the same, really. Yeah.

SPEAKER_16:

And Damone, really, for that matter. He was selling. He was selling concert tickets. Other love. Summer spring. Winter.

SPEAKER_09:

Lost in the great divide.

SPEAKER_05:

Shut up.

SPEAKER_02:

Maria. Maria needs to show up. He's got some hotel California here. Exactly. Yep. Good call. You can never leave, okay? Once you start seeing the patterns, you can never leave leave those patterns behind. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_14:

To learn from those patterns. Yeah, this is written by Willie Nelson and Jackie Kane.

SPEAKER_16:

So it's there. One of the two of them, or both. We're sort of like. Let's do a Hotel California thing here, but make it a little bit different.

SPEAKER_02:

It's got Latin flair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_16:

It's like a buzzing in the back.

SPEAKER_09:

Remember how we used to dance together? Can I do a dance? Remember how I used to hold you tight? You asked me if I'd leave, and I said never. Spanish control. And that's still right. Summer sun. No prettier than summer rain.

SPEAKER_14:

Summer garden and Doug Moore.

SPEAKER_09:

Summer coming back again. Other loves. Lost to the great divide.

SPEAKER_14:

It's like High Tor to Shara Herrera. Whistling. Lost to the Great Divide. Lots of electric and acoustic.

SPEAKER_11:

Nice.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna thumbtack that one.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_09:

Oh yeah, here we go. Woke up this morning with the sun down shining in. Found my mind in a brown paper bag again. Tripped on a cloud fell eight miles high. Tore my mind on a jagged sky. I just dropped it to see what condition my condition was in.

SPEAKER_16:

Thank you, Billy. Shout to Billy Madison.

SPEAKER_09:

Felt myself crawling out as I was crawling in. Woke up so tight line up while so my Mickey you carry well straw in what John Larce Certain things have come to light and you look for the person who will benefit and uh uh you know and the law you know you'll uh uh you know what I'm trying to say and the law Monica Oh man Digoris killed my condition It's be on everybody's playlist right you're running around big flag letters on the dead head side I had my foot on the gas and when I left the road it blew out my mind Eight miles out of mountains on I can't scare eight miles straight up downtown stone I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in her love give direction to pick somebody up they don't even know where they are like saying gosh I don't know where I am see that sign that it says ribs like no idea it's always the men who work too hard you know that have all the conditions that what makes a man that in the purchase at all right that was nice and sweet right what in God's holy name are you blathering about we don't know we have no idea cheers like an interesting music warning to my eyes yeah and this old heart's been beaten up and my ragged soul it's had things rough and this face is all I have worn and lived it fairest they can fall bored and leave it he positions himself something to achieve peaceful feel he's like winding down his career he's gonna fade off these tears are on like relic he's still rap you know this is what I'm getting this is like this he's positioning this as his swan but this is his fiftieth album so it's like just make a fiftieth album that's why you make your songs to three minutes for most of your characters and then you're gonna need to be the fairest of them all strap it up never look like you cool and stream a minute forty in no hey I have four and a half minutes that rose with time maybe the song needs four and a half they should be fine like a good old dog you won't hear me not cracking my armor here this face is all I have one a little bit sometimes to be sentimental about his face the reflection the fairest of them all what's he looking at in the mirror they take the place to fan just having a dirt diggler moment yeah my hand all the second that was that was goaded that was goaded my sympathetic mirror mirror yeah you can where the guitar solo is supposed to be is the cut strings that's fine that's almost a song about space to be the fairest of them all put a beef tallow on your face is all I'll olive oil lemon right right Chris yeah just like our ancestors below my eyes are like old friends and the soul heart's been beaten up and my ragged soul has had things wrong this face is all I have worn and lived in this face is all I have worn and lived I'm not a crier I don't cry I work out okay I mean the last minute was touching yeah lived in the phase it's really it's a metaphor I know it's not a soul is crashing down and you're left alone on shaky ground the drum soundscapes are getting me I don't know digging it or is it no that's yeah you're yeah I don't like it yeah it's a little this is this is bad it's like steel mixed with like Michael McDonald's let it shine on through don't fade away the cut the light shine between you'll find yourself again you're gonna shine don't fade away darling don't fade away sterlet of this song take a time it's gonna fade away give you in your top three in front of you no it's like a brand new thing each and every day don't fade away sound might just fade away for me personally we could always fade away to the next time yourself again don't fade away hold on to your dream waves ourselves the tide will turn and we're just gonna suffocate that one out for the next song which is gonna click right about let's uh take a word from our sponsors uh Moko Energy Drink and Happy Fun Ball shout out still legal in 16 states okay yeah this is time after time from the hills of Mount Nicaragua it's get your coffee elsewhere folks I have a cloppy and thank all of you just time after time after time is left and new flashback warm I'm sorry Dave almost left behind the case of no race this is brutal walking too far ahead I can do it when they chose this they must have been on dope yeah where are you people on dope and does that if I'm here and you're here doesn't that make it our time If I'm here and you're here doesn't that make it our time after my pick your face and darkness has turned to gray watching through window you're wondering if I'm okay from even stuff now that's my must be real the future must be real it could be your now that was it your now go to time space continue explanation like it's a little bit I like the I'm after Mabel I'm after shout out to Eddie Lightner out there go check him out on the Spotify Mandaliner Dan Dugmore or Reggie Young Mandolin player on any list here. Maybe it's Alison Crow she's she plays other stuff maybe she's plucking her middle I don't know that's takato style Wow that was a really cool fade out actually okay yeah that was low key for me so that mandolin solo could have gone the whole time darker deeper down recollection phoenix recollection phoenix funny how the miles get into me though it's like a read runner and I wonder what my baby thinks of me oh baby making that's what that is recollection I play wondering who it is I'm supposed to be oh little ham and eggs coming at you souvenirs and cappuccino I take a cappuccino over a souvenir any day I think I understand it's caffeinated souvenir where you go when you get it and I think I get it I think my head's all straight and I think she knows there goes my secret oh what's his secret is he talking about recollection phoenix transitioning after this album recollection phoenix my mind still on my woman I wonder what she thinks of when I hold her judging by the silence you might think the road has made her colder wait just a minute but I can't live without her and I can't remember if I ever told her oh well you should have told her what the hell yeah but now I think I guess how important could it have been he forgot I understand about hope where you go hope until you get it and I think I get it I think my head's all straight and I think she knows there who's my secret So the recollection of these different cities are just like different relationships he's had.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah I went to Tucson once man just tell me about that touching me crazy time in Tucson Summertime probably recollection Vegas colder than it was that time in Reno makes sense geographically listen to the night move go out to the girls in the casino shout to Bob Seeger now I think I get it I think I understand it's all about hope where you go when you get it Willie's a good man Texas holding I think my head's all screen yeah when they like her it's probably all he does like over yeah well I mean he would pay you get like pot from a dealer or whatever and then they pay him with money and you'd sit him down if you want to play cards like to give Willie an opportunity to win the money back. Yeah that was like the uh the Dan Rather interview.

SPEAKER_02:

Even though he was still probably fairly rich. I don't know or is that s is it safe to assume or is it yeah it just seems like a dick move. Yeah it kind of does like just pay the man yeah and then you can play for money after that yeah I guess there's always like kids and services being a lot of things. It's also like the Great Depression era you know so it's just like money and uh I'm sure they're they're all well taken care of drug dealers and Willie Nelson like what are you doing?

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah this song is uh you remain outline around your eyes got really really big eyes I can close my eyes to I can I can close something you have like really big eyes and that freaks me out sometimes What do you do with a memory?

SPEAKER_02:

Jesus eyes I guess and stares at me I can tear that frame down off the wall but I won't erase the things I saw this is a Kid Cuddy song right and day and day you remain you may just six minutes buckle up it's just it's not that simple but it is simple lines intertwining work with all regress yeah they should name this there's a box full of underneath the bed's secret just close enough not to forget what's in the box for you with all regress there's an old house key in the kitchen room hey man got a big box of bulls before I can up sometimes I rule that key with no time Oh this is really gracious and kind and generous and everything warned my partner so nice and generous and gracious but I just don't want to think that's a porn in my partner is about that actually he's just trying to clean out his house and he's like I can't can't get rid of this box.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah you may he's talking about the box of porn this is all a metaphor and yes looking at that box we did the climat on this look for the person who will benefit as the doubt So here's the list for you, bud.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_16:

So let's go with try to think packaging number three. Gosh, I don't know myself, man. The first two are off the list from three to twelve.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Uh number three is gonna be the third song. Last stand in open country. For me, it's just, you know, it's it's got that sort of big energy. It's but it's a simple song, you know. It's uh it's you know, very just complex. I mean, it's not just it might not be just that's it's just great, it's great. Okay.

SPEAKER_16:

You like that. All right. Yeah. It was a little complex, as the dude just said, right? Yeah. I like the way you wove that in there. Um I'm gonna say my number three. I like the like the simple, the the the more um more subtle songs there. Like um, the great divide. I think I liked a lot. So I'm gonna go with number three is the great divide. Yeah. Um it was touching and it seemed heartfelt, so I'm gonna go with that.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not as good.

SPEAKER_02:

No, my no, my number two, I'm going great divide as well. Yeah. I think the sort of uh the percussion in that and the sort of Western slash Latin flair and the really like it sort of crescendos into a big operation with all these musicians that is really good, but it has such a raw like start to it, it's pretty you know, simple and just one one or two musicians, but then it builds. So I'm going crazy.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, it was like a collaborative effort for sure. Yeah, so that was good. Um yeah, I guess we we flip-flopped our threes and twos. I I'm going uh last stand in open country as my number two.

SPEAKER_02:

Nice.

SPEAKER_16:

And uh yeah, I just uh it was well written. It's a Bernie Toppin song, so you can't go wrong. And Kid Rock, you know, I he he did it, yeah. He wasn't too much he yeah, he was he was like a second he played a secondary role, but it was good, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Like I second fiddle.

SPEAKER_16:

Uh yeah, yeah, and he he paid oh uh homage to to Willie Nelson in this, so that was another element to what makes it so you know, so solid. So very solid. So goaded.

SPEAKER_02:

It's goaded. Yeah. Um yeah, I think honorable mention that it didn't make the list. Maybe that time after time mandolin solo at the end was good. Uh the beginning I just wanted to hate it, but it got a little bit but no, I my number one no is just dropped in to see what my condition my condition was in. That's I just love that song, and I think I know it's a cop-out maybe to choose a cover for my number one, but I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, no, it's okay. It's okay. Uh that's my number one as well. Nice. Because it's yeah, they didn't write it, it's a remake. But at the same time, there were some there's some decisions that you may have to make to make it your own. Oh, yeah. And and it he did it really well. So he's a sponge, you know. Yeah, he is. Yeah, exactly. It's good. All right. So, yeah, the rest of it, a little bit underwhelming for me. But uh nevertheless, it was packed good to revisit it, you know, the whole time after time thing. That's just uh I'll hopefully that doesn't go yeah, play in my head over and over again. Round and round. Yeah, exactly. It will. All right, take care, folks. Woo!

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