Nate and Ashley discuss 1984's Red Dawn. Ashley kicks up a fuss about fools on the Next Door app. Nate fusses and cusses about waking up screaming in pain
Nate and Ashley discuss 1984's Red Dawn. Ashley kicks up a fuss about fools on the Next Door app. Nate fusses and cusses about waking up screaming in pain
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Speaker 2:Pass.
Speaker 3:Hi. Hello. It's been a minute.
Speaker 4:Yes. It's been a long time. Um, and before we start, I think we should do some, um, full disclosures. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and one is that we had to turn the air off, so we can't be too long. Cause 90 like 95 degrees out today. Yeah. Another is that, uh, we interrupted watching 1984 is red Dawn to start recording. Yes. And the final one is that I am on muscle relaxers.
Speaker 3:<laugh> yes. Nate injured his back jet skiing, which sounds, um, it sounds like the plot to like a bad eighties movie or something, or like some like big plot point. Cuz it sounds fancier than it is. It's like, you know, you rent a jet ski at the beach and you do it and then injure
Speaker 4:Your back. You mean a to me it's I mean, I don't know I'm on muscle relaxers, but does it sound like I was on like a mission of some kind?
Speaker 3:It just sounds like a thing where you're uh, I hurt my back jet skiing. Like it just sounds a little, I don't know, elitist isn't right. But it's like a little douchy maybe,
Speaker 4:Doey. You mean or bougie?
Speaker 3:Doy. How about that combo<laugh> or Boey? Whichever you
Speaker 4:Prefer. Bougie is the some hit lingo that people use these days.
Speaker 3:It's been around for a while. Oh, okay. You're just old.<laugh>
Speaker 1:Sit down in our circle of trust right now. There's something to discuss.
Speaker 4:Well, let's discuss, uh, red Dawn from 1984 red Dawn.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:It is, um, it's such a perfect movie for like people who believe that they need and I'm not trying to be political, but people who believe they need a lot of guns to protect themselves from and invasion. And I'll tell you why. I mean, cuz that's basically what happens yeah. In the movie. Um, but also spoil
Speaker 3:Hurt.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, let's move out in 19 85, 40
Speaker 3:Year, third
Speaker 4:<laugh> old spoiler because when the Russians or the Nicaraguas or the Cubans as is portrayed in the movie, uh, um, attack, they attack a small mountain town in Colorado, right? Like that is not a strategic attack point,
Speaker 3:But well there's a lot of missile places in Colorado.
Speaker 4:Um,
Speaker 3:The places where they keep like NORRA and all that stuff
Speaker 4:NORRA yeah. NORRA is like,
Speaker 3:And Colorado Springs is big army base,
Speaker 4:But this is in Colorado Springs. This is like some mountain town. Like there's no military base in that Mount. Maybe it is explained in the movie and, and I just don't
Speaker 3:Remember, but well,
Speaker 4:But it seems like that cuz it, I feel like people who stockpile guns are often living in these small towns that are not targets of any
Speaker 3:Or anything. Yes. I will say I haven't seen the movie in a long time. I always assumed it was in Michigan because of them yelling Wolverine
Speaker 4:Wolverines.
Speaker 3:Well, which I think
Speaker 4:I'll more full disclosure. I loved this movie when I was in junior high
Speaker 3:School. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 4:Yeah. Um, and so much so that, um, when we, there was a group of us who were the gonna be the first class at Chatfield high school in Colorado, um, brag, speaking of guns that we would've gone to Columbine. Uh, but instead we were gonna be the first class to go to Chatfield. Uh, and we all voted that our team mascot be the Wolverines<laugh><laugh>, but that didn't ended up being the chargers, which is actually a much better name for Chatfield,
Speaker 3:Like Chatfield chargers,
Speaker 4:But to be from Colorado and um, want your team to be named to chargers to me was, was not good.
Speaker 3:<laugh> yeah. The alliteration for those who don't know non-sports people of which I am one, but through osmosis, I know certain things the San Diego chargers used to be
Speaker 4:San Diego chargers.
Speaker 3:Oh they always
Speaker 4:Were now they're the Los Angeles chargers.
Speaker 3:Oh, but it was R I guess of the Denver
Speaker 4:Bro. Yes. In the same division,
Speaker 3:Same division. So it would be, I mean, it'd be worse that they were the Raiders.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Oh God
Speaker 3:That'd be a nightmare. Yeah. U m, yeah, to your point, I think that is very fair. And I also, it, because of our ages, w e're quite elderly. U m, we lived during sort of the last gasps of the cold war. Some of which were pretty intense gasps m m-hmm< affirmative> because, uh, some, some different things happened like, uh, a commercial airliner got shot down because it went into Russian a irspace, which like, thinking about that now, like that was l ike a hugely dramatic thing that happened when I was in fifth grade. Mm-hmm<affirmative>
Speaker 4:I don't really remember this.
Speaker 3:I remember it because my, uh,
Speaker 4:I would've been in seventh grade or
Speaker 3:Something. One of my classes, we wrote letters to the pres the premiere of the Soviet union at the time Yu drop off saying like, and then we got to read'em on the local news. So me and my pink, Panama, Jack Long sleeve, t-shirt what read my letter saying like, it's more, your airspace is more important to you than human lives. And that is very sad or something like that than I wrote to<laugh> now put it in the context of we're in a cold war where every piece of media from the news to TV shows to movies, to songs, even mm-hmm<affirmative> are talking about nuclear war that were on the brink of nuclear war. So it was a very like that I think of the fifties as sort of in sixties as more intense in that way, because they had like bomb shelters and stuff like that. And we didn't really do those kinds of drills by the time we were in school. Mm-hmm<affirmative> but I think it was a very prevalent stressor yeah. And intense thing. And the, and that movie was one of many movies of the time that was very pushing this like sort of, you know, again, I don't wanna get super political, but this Reish yeah. Agenda of, we need to be armed because the Russians are coming in at any moment. Right.
Speaker 4:I remember my nextdoor neighbor's little brother. Um, I don't know what we were doing or maybe filling out a survey in a magazine or something, but I just, for whatever reason, this, I always remember this, cuz it struck me so weird at the time. And the question was, if you could tell one thing to the world, what would it be? And to my mind, it's like, oh, okay. What's the, what's the inspirational thing. Like in like my friend's little brother who was probably in fourth grade or something was, uh, kill all the coms.<laugh> I mean, that's how like we were sort of,
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a very, that was not a weird thing for people to think or say. Yeah. Uh, during that time it's just very interesting the way that like pop culture in America specifically, but probably in other countries too starts to sort of play out the political agendas of certain things. Mm-hmm<affirmative> during certain times not, I mean, this is not a revolutionary thing that I'm saying this is, uh, stupid,
Speaker 4:But if we, there is gonna be a revolution, I think we'll, we'll probably be ready. I have a baseball bat next to my bed.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Nate has a baseball bat. That's next to the bed. So
Speaker 4:That's our home protection.
Speaker 3:If you wanna come in here. Yeah. Get ready. Say hello to my, to SHA some balls<laugh> cause he does have a ball there too, and he loves to hit it and he doesn't like to run after the balls.
Speaker 4:It's funny when I lived by myself and didn't the downtown on capital, well on Colfax and Denver, Colorado in the nineties, it was not as, it was not a safe neighborhood. And I had like, people like walk into my, you know, apartment up the fire escape and stuff like this. And, and uh, it was not a very safe place. My protection then was a lacrosse stick, which should be the worst thing to like protect yourself with. So
Speaker 3:You've gotten less bougie as time has gone on. I would say a lacrosse stick is more bougie
Speaker 4:Than well, the, the basket of the lacrosse stick is not like gonna do a lot of damage. Well
Speaker 3:Wouldn't you just hold it the other way.
Speaker 4:No, but that would be awkward to hold it by the basket part. Well mean
Speaker 3:Not
Speaker 4:I'm just saying it's not an ideal weapon.
Speaker 3:So part of the game,
Speaker 4:I'm just saying it's not an ideal
Speaker 3:Weapon. Yeah. I hear you. I know nothing about lacrosse
Speaker 1:And
Speaker 2:Oh yay.
Speaker 3:Okay. So my kicking up a fuss is sort of inspired by something. You said that like you lived in downtown Denver and people would come up your fire escape and mm-hmm,<affirmative> walk into your apartment.
Speaker 4:Well, that happened one time. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. Well sometimes here I am for reasons, just for reasons, I guess I'm on the next door app, which if you are not familiar, it's an app. That's basically people that live in a certain area can go on there to sell stuff or say like, Hey look out for, you know, the coyotes. I saw a coyote on this street. Just be careful with your dogs or whatever. Um, and a lot of it ends up being about like picking up your dog poop, but don't throwing it in, in someone's trash can that's out on the street. That's a huge issue. Uh, but another big issue is around crime. And so we live in Los Angeles, which in case you didn't know is a major city<laugh> um, uh, and people will go on there. They'll be talking about crime and people will be like, someone broke into my house last night and was just standing over my bed. And it was awful. And dah, dah, dah, and then people you'll find out in the comments. People will be like, oh my gosh, did they like break a window? No, the door was unlocked<laugh> and I'm like friends. Okay. I, I'm not saying that it was right for that person to walk into a home that is not their own mm-hmm<affirmative> but let's own our own behavior. Just a hair mm-hmm<affirmative> if you're gonna leave your door unlocked overnight in a major city that has a significant unhoused situation. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and some, you know, a decent amount of crime, not crazy for a city of the size of Los Angeles, but it has crime don't come on being like you guys, someone broke in. No, they didn't. They walked in, you left the door open and they walked in.
Speaker 4:So that's not even officially considered breaking and entering then.
Speaker 3:No it is cuz you,
Speaker 4:What are you breaking?
Speaker 3:Well, you're trespassing and trespass, but I think it would be, uh, and then it it's I saw another thing on Twitter where someone posted like their ring camera video, and they're like, it astounds me how people will just walk onto someone else's property and act like they own the place. And so I was like, oh boy, what do these people do? Cause sometimes it is a thing where people will like TRAs through someone's backyard to get somewhere mm-hmm<affirmative> and you're just like, are you kidding? No, no friends, basically someone came up, there's like a little gate. There's the rain camera. And the guy's like trying to figure out how to open the gate. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and he's like, and there's a woman with him and she's holding maybe like a bottle of wine or a gift or something going on and on he's trying to do it. Just nothing. He's not doing anything super egregious, just sort of trying to open it. And then the girlfriend or the woman with him looks at her phone and goes, oh, this is the wrong, wrong house. And she's like, hi to the camera. And, and they posted this like, can you believe how people would act? And it's like, yeah, I can. They thought they were going to their friend's house. And it wasn't their friend's
Speaker 4:House. That's an unhinged person who posted that as a complaint. Yeah. That's thank you. That's insane. Um, does it matter that we live, I mean, again, full, this is the full disclosure episode. We live in Toca lake, which is depending on what part of Toca lake you live in. And we're sort of, but most of Toca lake is really nice homes. So do you think that people, um, because they feel like they live and it's really nice neighborhood like to walk around in and it feels very, like, I know
Speaker 3:We don't live in a nice home, by the way we live in a nice apartment. We,
Speaker 4:We live in the slums of UCA
Speaker 3:Lake. Yeah. We are the
Speaker 4:Slums. Um, but you think people are sort of lull in the feeling like they're in some like small town.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of these people who are on there have a lot of money and not a lot of sense. Yeah. And I mean, S E se not C E N T S cuz I bet they have a lot of those. If they converted their cash to change. Yeah. I don't know why they would well,
Speaker 4:Let's, let's get into that a little deeper.<laugh> like do that bet. They don't have a lot of coins.
Speaker 3:I think it is a thing where they just are sort of like, well, the only people around are people like me with plenty of money and, and why would they ever walk into someone else's home in the middle of the night? It's just so odd. Like don't people see the invisible wall around my house. Right. That's not for pores.
Speaker 4:These are probably people who have never lived in a, a not really nice neighborhood. Right.
Speaker 3:And the thing is like, people like, oh, you can't keep your door unlocked anymore. I'm like, I lived in freaking small town, you know, small suburb, Georgia. We were locking our door.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's what I was gonna ask you. Like, I assume that maybe you did come from a don't lock your door child.
Speaker 3:There was definitely times when we didn't. And definitely times when my parents would just like leave their keys in the car and things like that. But like at the end of the day, they were definitely locking. I mean the minute any crime ever happened, they were like, oh, lock the door. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. And it was just, that's just like a thing that you do. You lock your door at night for say, oh no, the cat is rubbing on the microphone. That's probably gonna sound weird. Oh, come on beast.<laugh> no, no, no. That was pretty cute. She
Speaker 4:Has an it that only that Michael scratch.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh boy. And now we got cat hair on it. This is gonna be a thing. Um, she just wants to be a part of whatever we're doing. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. Yeah. But the, the thing is my, my issue with it really is the thing of like, how can you be? How can you live in a major city and be like, I, yeah, I don't lock my door at night. Yeah. Like, that's weird. Sorry. It's weird. And whatever happens from that, I'm not saying it's your fault, but I'm saying you, weren't a very conscientious person in terms of protecting yourself. If you didn't just like lock your door yet.
Speaker 4:Right. Good point.
Speaker 3:Oh, great point. Yep. Do you have anything you wanna kick up with us about?
Speaker 4:Um, oh, I don't know, man. Why don't we just get to fusing and cussing
Speaker 5:And fussing and fussing.
Speaker 4:I'm so injured. I'm feeling. And this is like, I have, I'm a very fortunate person for lots of reasons, but I'm feeling a little like Joe lately.<laugh> before we started this, I was asking Ashley to please not leave me cuz I'm just waiting for some other bad thing to happen to me. Aw. I was up all night, not up all night, but I didn't sleep. I was awaken several times by just searing pain. Did you just toot
Speaker 3:<laugh> no.
Speaker 4:What noise?
Speaker 3:I think I just made the nose with my noise. Oh. I mean with my nose.
Speaker 4:Are you on muscle relaxers?
Speaker 3:<laugh> not that I know of.
Speaker 4:Um, yeah. I experienced some of the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life last night. And this morning, mostly this morning where I was just like screaming out in pain because my back would go would have these spasms because I injured my back. Uh, as Ashley mentioned, jet skiing because I have a broken toe and I couldn't like really put my weight on my feet when I was hitting the waves on the jet ski. So my back was absorbing at all and for like a half hour, it was fine. But then I started like hurting and progressively started hurting more and more. And so then I retched my back and you know, I knew immediately that I was going to be paying for it, but I didn't know that like for some reason I'm starting to get, I started getting these spasms in the morning that are just like, wake me up with, I'm waking up with some screaming out loud.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But he's awful. And what's really awful is that I laugh. Not because it's funny. I feel bad for him, but<laugh> the noise he makes is so like cartoonish. Oh my God. It's like old fax machine.
Speaker 4:It's like a lightning bolt is striking me and like just condensing all my, do
Speaker 3:You remember when we were driving here from New York when we were moving here? Yeah. And I was having those back pains. That's exactly what was happening to really, I was having back spasms. Yeah. And I would like, remember I would be like in so much pain, it would be hard for me to get outta the car sort of sometimes. Um, I was having really bad back pain like that. Uh, those spasms where it's like, you basically, it's almost like you feel like, um, if you're, you know, if, if you're opening like an old latch and it gets to a certain point and it like sticks. Oh, it would be sort of like that. Like my back, just if I was in a certain position, suddenly it would be like, spasming, I'd be, ah, dad, what did I do? I did nothing. And like totally is doing this. And I don't know how to fix it. And
Speaker 4:It is like, it's a 10 on the pain go. It's like, lightning's striking you in the back. And then for me this morning, like it's one thing when you just get the spasm, cuz you moved in the wrong way or something like this. And it's just like, whoa, that was intense pain. But then this morning it was just not going away. It wasn't just like a quick hit. It was like, it continued Toro Andro and throw up and I couldn't move or anything. And the laughing thing, like honestly I I'm sort of glad that you were laughing because that to me is better than at least you're not being like overly upset for me. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, well good. Cause I can't help it. Like<laugh> I really was laughing so hard and I felt
Speaker 4:Bad. It does make me feel a little bit better that you're laughing honestly.
Speaker 3:I mean
Speaker 4:I, because it just, it makes an awful situation. Not as awful that at least you're having a good time.<laugh>
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not totally having a good time. I, I do feel bad, but you know,
Speaker 4:But at least that's not, I don't have to worry about you being upset.
Speaker 3:It's such a funny noise.
Speaker 4:I can't tell you. And then after that, like it was just enduring for a while. But then like my back would just kind of throb for a while after each one of those, like an aftershock, it's like a little earthquakes in my back.
Speaker 3:Oh these little earthquakes. You don't know Tori Amos.
Speaker 4:I don't. Why not? I thought you were making that up right now.
Speaker 3:No, that's uh, Tori Amus well, what's so weird to me is Nate called, like to make a doctor's appointment about his back, like a responsible human. And I was very pleased that he did that and they were like, yeah, well set you up with a telemedicine person, which initially I was like, are they insane? Like this is his back. Like they can't do anything. Then I later thought about it. I'm like, well, it's probably better for him to talk to someone now than have to wait weeks and weeks to see someone. Yeah. Um, and so this telemedicine person, I didn't hear the whole thing, but it sounded like she was just asking you about the pain and whatever. And so she gave him, uh, some muscle relaxers and the option to do physical therapy, which he, for reasons I'll truly, never understand declined both initially. Uh, yeah. And then he went back and was like, yeah, I'll take those muscle relaxers.
Speaker 4:Actually she, I didn't even go back. I was going to call her and I looked on my phone or something and I had a message that my prescription was ready. So she just did it anyways. Good.
Speaker 3:Cause she knew like this was stupid
Speaker 4:Done. Yeah. I was, yeah. I was calling her back. I don't know why. I don't know because I don't want to be hurt. So it's like if I start taking medicine and doing things, then it means that I am hurt and I just want it to go away instead. You know,
Speaker 3:Also though, if you don't do that, you, it also means that you are hurt.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I know.
Speaker 3:<laugh>,
Speaker 4:It's a psychological thing though.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's annoying.
Speaker 4:The muscle relaxers really help. Um, and I didn't take any before bed last night, cuz we went out to dinner for a friend's birthday and I had drinks. You're not supposed to mix them, uh, drinking and the muscle relaxers. Yeah. Um, but then actually gave me one this morning.
Speaker 3:I forced that one down his throat this morning.
Speaker 4:Um, and I was kind of like, oh I hope I don't die since I have alcohol in my system. I don't know. That's that's a dumb thought.
Speaker 3:I think it's more, they
Speaker 4:Don't, I probably people party and like do that drink and have muscle relaxers.
Speaker 3:I think it's one of those things where like, if you drink and take them that can make you stop breathing.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:So you're not in danger of that because you're not drunk. Right?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:Okay. Then you should be fine. Yeah. You've metabolized enough alcohol out of your system that I don't think is gonna be
Speaker 4:A problem. Okay. But if you don't then you stop breathing.
Speaker 3:You could it's like if you take any depressant yeah. With alcohol that can combine and make it. So you stop breathing.
Speaker 4:Why don't because why?
Speaker 3:Because it's depressing your systems. Like it's shutting down your like, uh, muscles and stuff, I guess.
Speaker 4:Hmm. Okay.
Speaker 3:That you just like,
Speaker 4:Oh like and same thing I, your heart could stop or something.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that part. I always thought it had to do more with breathing that basically like people who took like Valium and drank like Marilyn Monroe or whatever when she died that it's basically like it depresses your respiratory system and makes you it's like your body is so slowed down is so like your systems are so like leveled out that your body forgets to breathe and then you die. I don't know that that's probably not right. But that's maybe in the,
Speaker 4:But I also did take some, I I drank last night and then I took some ibuprofen, like it's six 30 in the morning, something like that. Oh. And then the muscle relaxer. Yeah. It's like uhoh
Speaker 3:But are you feel, you know, it's probably not great. It's probably bad for your liver is really what it's bad for. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I feel fine though.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I think maybe you're just gonna need to not drink while this is being problematic. And
Speaker 4:I didn't realize this wasn't I mean, yeah. I didn't realize that was it.
Speaker 3:Did I making that much of a difference? His back issues went from zero to a th or went from like, you know, it was hurt rich my back 60 to a thousand, like overnight, it was just like suddenly he was in like excruciating screaming pain. And he, he had been in pain before and was ginger with it and everything. But we were like stretching his back. We didn't stretch it yesterday, which I think might have contributed. I just think it's, you're just not a good patient. You're
Speaker 4:Not. Oh, because I don't follow directions. Good enough.
Speaker 3:Well, because you just don't like, because of exactly what you said before, like I don't wanna take medicine cuz that means I'm sick. Mm you're not. You sort of try to ignore. So like yesterday you were on your feet grilling for a lot of the day cuz you're making green chili. That was probably not great for your back
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm<affirmative> okay.
Speaker 3:I'm not a doctor, but I've seen a ton of ER mm-hmm<affirmative> so I think you should listen<laugh> I had a much lesser issue, but I was the whole time we were on a beach vacation with my family. The whole time we were there, I was complaining about my foot hurting my foot hurting and it's like, it still kind of is. And I think I've diagnosed it through, uh, just Googling the symptoms. And it's what always came up, which is, uh, this thing called an accessory navicular bone, which is a bone on your foot, which can cause accessory navicular syndrome, which is sort of similar to planter fascitis, except there no heel involvement. It's just the arch of my foot and the top of my foot, basically it's this like little, extra hunk of bone or cartilage that sticks out of the side of your foot that like can it's can be fine forever. And then one day you just twist it a little bit and it's like, now your foot hurts all the time and that's kind of where I'm at. My foot hurts. And uh, yeah, I should probably say someone
Speaker 4:About it. I'm gonna do a full disclosure initially when I thought we should do the podcast. Yeah. I thought do the podcast on muscle relaxers and maybe I'll be like kind of funny and loopy and silly. But what I'm realizing is that's just making me making it hard for me to follow the conversation entire. Like I'm just sort of starting to just doze out a little bit.
Speaker 3:Aw. You're sleepy. Well, we did a lot. We did. We discussed and we kicked
Speaker 4:Up. I could have talked about
Speaker 3:Too and we fussed and cussed. What else were you gonna talk about?
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought those things, but now in my, uh, muscle relaxer state, I've already forgotten them again.
Speaker 3:Oh brutal.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I'm sorry. And there'd be a whole new tangent that we don't have probably don't have time for.
Speaker 3:Well
Speaker 4:We're because it's getting hot in here.
Speaker 3:We're gonna, yes. Let's take off all y'all clothes. I am getting so hot. I'm all day. My clothes<laugh> uh, so yeah, I think we're gonna cut this one.
Speaker 4:Is that Tori AMO again?
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's Tori AMO. That's another to Amus. Oh, so good. She's really prolific songwriter.
Speaker 4:Very diverse.
Speaker 3:Very diverse. Uh, we're gonna cut it short maybe or not.
Speaker 4:No, that's not really sure. That's funny long. Okay. Unless you had to kick plus
Speaker 3:Customer. No, that was great. Fussing and cussing. You get and yeah, we're sorry. We've been away for so long and we're gonna try and be more, uh, on top of it. Be more regular about it. Thank you for listening. Keep kicking up a fuss.
Speaker 4:I love you.
Speaker 3:<laugh> what are you talking to me?
Speaker 4:Who? These two listening.
Speaker 3:Come on.<laugh> all right. Keep fussing. Y'all.