NY: Evolving Friendships, and Creative Pursuits w/ Karyn Elle

Ever found yourself chuckling over chicken and waffles while pondering the deeper intricacies of brunch culture and evolving friendships? That's exactly where Lamp, Ryan, Shadra, Karyn and I land in our latest Brunch Hour Podcast episode. We spill the beans on our recent trip to Free Bird, where the dive bar charm meets Westchester chic, and compare it to the heights of culinary bliss we discovered at Milk and Honey. But it's not just about the food – we serve up a hearty portion of candid conversation on the dynamics of brunch indulgence, complete with a unique grading scale that will leave you hungry for our next outing.

The laughter keeps flowing as we navigate the bittersweet nuances of outgrowing old pals and the importance of cultivating a supportive network. Have you ever had to leave a friend behind as life's paths diverged? Or perhaps you've wondered how to keep your creative spark alive without the aid of your usual cheerleaders? Pull up a chair and join us as we explore the value of honest feedback, the power of kindred spirits in the pursuit of dreams, and the wisdom in surrounding yourself with those who authentically champion your aspirations. It's a cocktail of truth and humor you won't want to miss.

Rounding off our brunch-time symposium, we tackle the provocative world of a credit score-based dating app and share a light-hearted critique of a telepathy movie that went awry. Plus, don't miss our discussion on the representation of diversity in the latest "Dune" installment – it's a topic that promises to stir up as much debate as our movie reviews. So, whether you're craving insights on friendship, wistful for a laugh, or eager for some straightforward movie banter, our podcast has your table set and your mimosa chilled.

Transcript

Brunch Hour Podcast

Speaker 1 0:02

You are now rocking with the brunch hour podcast, the best hour of the day.

Speaker 2 0:06

It's the only podcast I listen to.

Speaker 1 0:11

With your host styles. So hopefully what we did was we faded in the black during that intro, because it's just all with sitting here listening to the intro and then staring at a bunch of people. So, this is actually take two right, because I fucked up take one. Take one is just like you know. It's like alcohol and shit you walk in sober, you walk out. Fucked up, you know right now so.

Speaker 1 0:37

I'm not fucked up yet. My wife's over there kicking the mic. She's like enough, enough. Anyway, this episode I'll be sharing the mic, pause and I'm not going to explain why it's a pause, but I'll be sharing it with my wife. Still, pause, because we're sharing the mic and if I need to explain it any further you need to find another part. Anyway, we are actually on our second leg. We're here in New York now. You know we're here in my part of town. The fellas came through. We also have, you know, the wife is here and we have a special guest whom shall remain unnamed for right now, just right now. But before we get into anything, what we're going to do is basically talk about where we went today. We ended up at Free Bird in White Plains, new York. Google it or check the show notes. I need to stop being rude. Check the show notes. It'll be there, I promise you. All right, let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 1:37

Well, first I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the look of it. It's kind of like I don't want to say a hole in the wall, but it kind of gives like a dive bar type of feel to it. I like stuff like that. It's very approachable. You don't have to feel like you're underdressed or anything For one. I definitely like the vibe in it, just the whole. Like you can easily miss it if you're not paying attention. Yes, it's a fact. Yeah, but I thought the vibe was cool and I know we'll get into a rating system later so I'm going to save it. But overall I really dug it. Lance beat me to it. I thought it was going to be first and I was a little disappointed that he beat me to it.

Speaker 1 2:16

I didn't even know that you're all racing, but this is the thing how do you call it? When you basically referenced the dive bar thing here in New York, like dive bars are like greasy, and when you say dive bar, I think like studio apartment with a bunch of people with like white beaters on it or dirty and shit like that. That was so. You must have elegant dive bars in Maryland.

Speaker 4 2:41

Maybe in a what's the part? It's like a whole strip of like bars off of Florida Avenue, because the name is sketched right now. But yeah, I mean, I guess. So I guess it's. You know, my definition of a dive bar is just like a small spot, but it's kind of nice, you know what? Maybe more like a speak easy.

Speaker 1 2:58

Okay, I like that. Yeah, Speak easy, I'll go with that. I'll go with that. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 5 3:05

Oh, I mean it was a good restaurant. Walk in, I was greeted by the woman at the front and the guy came up. So I'm at the table, was gonna be ready.

Speaker 1 3:14

Oh, let me close my eyes, walk me through this lamp, go ahead, oh, walk you through, walk you through. No, no, just the way that you was explaining it. I was like. You know, I'm greeted by the lady in the front.

Speaker 5 3:27

Yeah, it was a nice lady who greeted me. Then they were getting the tables ready in the front and then they found out we were sitting in the back. But it was good, everything was good. We're getting a rating system later, but it was good. Okay, amateur, good, small, but it was good Friendly.

Speaker 2 3:46

Friendly.

Speaker 5 3:46

Friendly, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 3:50

I'm glad that we shared. You might have to put an extra for me on that.

Speaker 5 3:54

I'm about to mute this dude's mic too, but this not the city, though right Huh, this not really.

Speaker 1 4:00

It's not necessarily the city, but there are a thing about it like this let's think about it like the Poconos. Right, we'll get to that later, but let's talk about the Poconos and how a lot of New Yorkers actually move from New York to Transplants. Okay, and they went to Poconos, so that's what Westchester is. Oh yeah, so we're not in the burrows, but you gonna bump into the burrows up here for sure, 100%, you know, unless they're older. You know they've been here for a while, so they're activated. You know what's your thoughts.

Speaker 3 4:33

I enjoyed it as well. I mean, it's our second time going. So, I kind of like knew what to expect, but I enjoyed it. That's something different this time around, but yeah, it was really nice Okay.

Speaker 1 4:49

Spending. The mic is shoestring budget. I don't know what to tell you. That's what we do, so we're going to get to the rating system, but I don't even actually none of y'all got the rating system now, right, all right, come on. Yeah, I got it. Oh, you got it.

Speaker 4 5:00

Yeah, all right, let's go All right, well, shoot, I guess a lot, a little bit. I mean five. Five being excellent value for being good value. Three, being fair to be slightly overpriced or slightly, you know, underwhelming, depending on the category on. And then we have poor is number one. Okay, so food quality shoot food quality for me. I will give it. I'm gonna give it a four Give it a four.

Speaker 1 5:36

What did you give Milk and Honey for the chicken and waffles?

Speaker 4 5:39

I gave the chicken and waffles a five. Oh, you gave it a five. We kept the files. I gave the chicken and waffles a five, all right Milk and Honey. I gave Milk and Honey a five Right. So where did they miss? It was a, you know. I felt I didn't want to give them a five across the board, so I gave them a four, I think for the atmosphere or the customer service. Okay, wait, not for customer service, it was WDA atmosphere, it was atmosphere All right cool. I've cried. I'm glad you said it.

Speaker 1 6:05

You know what about you, man? I was just being petty.

Speaker 3 6:07

I was just being petty but uh, okay.

Speaker 4 6:09

Glad you said it. Food here was four. I was a little scared at first because it was definitely a different side of the hand who was, I felt like, was cooking in the back. So I was kind of nervous about the chicken and waffles.

Speaker 1 6:23

So you just needed somebody to make an appearance. If somebody would have came out the back. Somebody's grandmother would have came out the back. You would have gave them a five.

Speaker 4 6:30

Yeah, if Angel Mama came out the back, it was like I gave the chicken and waffles. You was like there it is, yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 5 6:35

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.

Speaker 1 6:36

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like Would write to offload. Man Would write to offload.

Speaker 4 6:39

But I did it, man, I didn't. He said you go get some more because you know don't do DISLOAD, alright, yeah.

Speaker 1 6:46

Get some more, because you've got this monster out there. You've got this monster outside of you just for your alright. Yeah, I would. You know. You know what the secret recipe you ain't with that. If Patty 17 came out the back and was like I did it, baby, I was like, all right cool, I'll take the chicken and waffles. I want to be clear okay, he enjoyed it. I did enjoy it. He enjoyed it, in fact, he was NazTV genuine human being.

Speaker 1 7:02

Right for for hot second? Yeah, and he was like because there were a lot of Asian dissents, that's that thing there. I'm not racist, I promise you, but that's that's what happened. So we thought that there was going to be a lack of seasoning, anyway, like how can you make chicken and why? Why is this on a?

Speaker 4 7:22

menu. Right, I was nervous, but actually it worked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it worked out. I was nervous, like Shaq and the free throw line, but they did.

Speaker 1 7:31

OK, but you didn't break though. They didn't break.

Speaker 5 7:34

They yeah, cool, cool when I'm not going to be petty like him, but you, I'm going to give him a See, I'm a gamified.

Speaker 1 7:46

I'm a gamified. I'm a gamified, so they write up there with milk and honey. Y'all swear by milk and honey.

Speaker 4 7:52

OK, that's why I gave it a four. So All right so.

Speaker 5 7:55

So this claim is a curve grade, because I you claim on a curve? Yeah, because I was nervous, like Ryan too, I was nervous. So when I went out, when I you know, but when it came to the table, I was like oh. Ok, you might have something Hmm.

Speaker 1 8:13

Presentation Right Set a lot of attention. The presentation was straight.

Speaker 5 8:15

Yeah.

Speaker 4 8:16

Tastes was really good.

Speaker 5 8:18

The only, the honestly the only reason I can't give it a five is because of the waffle. Hmm, the waffle with milk and honey was much better, ok. But, the chicken here. I'm not going to get that. No, never mind.

Speaker 1 8:32

Yeah, yeah, watch your mouth. Watch your mouth, clean your thoughts.

Speaker 5 8:35

But it was, but it was good, though it was good. So four and a half.

Speaker 1 8:38

Four and a half. All right, here we go with that. No Five Five.

Speaker 5 8:42

Because I had to make up for Patty Ryan. Yeah, patty Ryan, there we go. Yeah, what say you?

Speaker 3 8:45

I'm going to give it a four Because it definitely beat the extra. I'm going to give it a four. I'm going to give it a four. I'm going to give it a four. I'm going to give it a four. I'm going to give it a four, the expectations that I have for it being shrimp and grits. It's kind of like you know, cooking grits is a hard task to do, so they were actually really good and so they met my expectations. Are you going to four?

Speaker 1 9:09

I'm going to four, I'm going with a five. I don't fuck with grits and they snuck that shit in. They snuck it in. I had the brisket with the over easy egg, fried hard though which is good for me.

Speaker 1 9:31

Cause I you know, if I had gotten a runny egg and they brought out the grits and it was on top of that, I'd have been pissed off, Like now. I got yellow grits, right. That'd have been no bueno, right. I'm going with a five. Cause again, like I said, I don't eat no grits. You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 9:47

So you didn't know you was getting grits. Nah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 9:49

Maybe I didn't. I did the lamp. They sent me the fucking menu. I was like I got it.

Speaker 5 9:55

Oh cause, you know what's crazy. When you remember when we were sitting there talking he was like I normally don't fuck with grits and I was like why do you eat all the grits?

Speaker 1 10:04

I thought that too, we was having a biscuit moment. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 10:09

You good for these moments. Yeah, I left it alone too.

Speaker 4 10:13

I heard her and I was like maybe I heard it wrong.

Speaker 1 10:15

Yeah, Nah, I had you, Nah, I don't know. Anyway, back to the top.

Speaker 4 10:23

Go ahead, ryan. All right, so we were talking about price Pricing, I guess is next we're talking about the variety of options.

Speaker 1 10:30

Okay, are you going in order?

Speaker 4 10:31

I wasn't Right.

Speaker 1 10:32

No, no, no you are Cause we started with the food called quality. So we good, all right, all right, but variety of options.

Speaker 4 10:40

I'll give the variety of options a five. I will give it a five. You know it was all on one page but it was pretty. It was a good variety for what was on that one page. And also, you know, I guess I'm a little cheeky a little bit I also give it a variety of options because I really enjoyed their drink menu. You had your choice between beer, wine or cocktails. And when I first, at first, very, very first glance, I didn't see the cocktail menu and I don't do wine and I don't do beer, so I was like, well, I guess I won't be drinking today. But then I saw the cocktail menu the last minute.

Speaker 5 11:12

So, variety of options, I give it a five, all right cool NA for me Because I knew driving up here I was getting chicken off. I didn't even look at the menu.

Speaker 1 11:24

Yo, I feel like y'all just like swapping bodies what the fuck. He's petty then you want to be petty Now he's like you know. I knew what I was getting, so I'ma give it.

Speaker 5 11:33

No, NA is not bad, it's just how can I grade it.

Speaker 4 11:36

And I literally didn't look at the menu. Could you look at the menu and see the options, even though well.

Speaker 5 11:40

I guess you didn't look at it out. Well, when you see your menu type, like for what he was like what in waffles?

Speaker 1 11:44

Let's get it going.

Speaker 5 11:46

Yeah, I had a four hour drive up here and I knew it was gonna be chicken and waffles.

Speaker 1 11:50

That's a fact. I know a fact Because I told y'all ahead of time when I chose the place I'm in.

Speaker 3 11:55

so he had chicken and waffles and I was like who Stiles know what he's doing. Thank you.

Speaker 5 12:01

So that's why I said NA. None personal against them. Just say NA for me, all right.

Speaker 3 12:07

I guess I'll give it a four. I think it was well actually a three actually. I mean, I think they had pretty good options for brunch. So Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 5 12:17

How you go from. How you go to four, get a compliment and then go three.

Speaker 3 12:22

I mean it was a good variety, but as far as the, I don't think it was that extensive yeah she's going word by word by that definition.

Speaker 4 12:28

Three, there was a good variety of options to cater to different preferences.

Speaker 3 12:32

I mean four was like extensive there was, it wasn't that big of a menu.

Speaker 2 12:35

Yeah that's true, that was a brunch, that's true.

Speaker 1 12:40

I'm going with a five. The reason being is because the menu wasn't crazy. They kept it short. The drink menu was actually pretty decent, you know. So if you drinking, you know whatever, and I'm not like a hardcore bourbon type of dude unless I'm with, you know what I mean. My guys outside of that, give me some fruity. Oh, I'm just saying yeah, yeah, yeah, nah, yeah, yeah, back to you, back to you, wayne.

Speaker 4 13:08

Well, as far as the ambiance, I'm going to do I'm still a shadow move and I'm just going word for word definition. I'll say let me give it a three, which is pleasant. Ambiance was nice and added it to the dining experience straight up. Once again, I like the fact that it was kind of a hole in the wall but it felt like a cozy at home experience. I give it a three.

Speaker 5 13:29

Just copy my answer for the three.

Speaker 3 13:34

I think I'm going with three as well. I like the coaxing this of it, so Five no, no, I ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 1 13:41

I ain't gonna do that I think we're going to stick with the three because, first of all, be sitting way in the back. I don't know about y'all, but I don't like sitting way in the back of nothing. Then I had my back to the door and I'm in New York, I don't play them games, so it was just like I was too deep pause and my back was to the door and I waited was dope though I like the weather. Yeah, he fucked up on the whole well, not him specifically, but the whole birthday thing in my reservation and I thought that you know, give me the check was basically the cold and he brought me to check.

Speaker 2 14:14

And I'm like yeah.

Speaker 1 14:15

I'm like, but I wanted the cake. It's their birthdays. I just wanted the cake. And man was like, oh, I'm going to make a cake for you and he was all obvious with it.

Speaker 4 14:25

He was like oh, you wanted a birthday cake with those two Word Word.

Speaker 1 14:31

Back to you, Ryan.

Speaker 4 14:32

All right, well, we got service. I'm looking at the service of five. They were very attentive, once again me and me and lamb was the first one there, and they would. They see. Well, I don't know how, I don't know how long lamb was waiting, but they seated us almost immediately once I came and, like I said, the service was dope. They didn't have to wait long, you didn't have to. I hate those experiences which I had just recently at somewhere in Jersey where you have to hunt down your waiter to get the damn check to leave, like where did she go? I?

Speaker 1 15:02

like that is my biggest it's. Yeah, I hate yo. I swear to God. It's like yo, you on me, yeah, you want me out of it, right, but then when I asked for the check, you give me the check and disappear for half hour Like I want to go.

Speaker 4 15:16

Yeah, I didn't get to check. I had to look forward to get the check. You know what I'm saying. Like so I. But back to the main topic. I feel like that the service I got today was the complete opposite Just very attentive, like they, they. It was like a running circle, like they came to check you about every 10 minutes just to make sure you straight. Same thing with the manager. The manager came out a couple of times just to make sure the food was good, make sure there's no issues. I give the service a five.

Speaker 3 15:40

OK.

Speaker 5 15:42

I get a service of five because I got there first, I believe yeah, and you know they were really, really attentive. They did a good job getting I had a reservation Well, not me, but I said the reservation name. It was good. They cleaned the table off. They make sure to my name is good everywhere. I see yeah, actually, because when I signed in they said oh, stiles, oh and then they called this lady over and she cleaned the table immediately. So your name do carry weight. So I'm glad you put it in your name.

Speaker 3 16:15

Only, only, when I write it down.

Speaker 4 16:17

Yeah, there was a why you said in the first place, styles Right.

Speaker 5 16:20

So yeah. So shout out to styles and his name. We got to get my five.

Speaker 3 16:27

I'm gonna give it a four. I mean, listen, I didn't think it was anything exceptional about the service, to be honest. I mean, it wasn't as good as milk and honey service. So that's all you know. That's what I'm going based off of.

Speaker 4 16:42

So I'm gonna give it a four. I can't hear it.

Speaker 3 16:45

I mean, it was excellent it was good. But it wasn't exceptional. Five no.

Speaker 1 16:51

I'm lying. I'm gonna go with the four two, reason being that she just she fucked it up. It wasn't five, but I had to knock it down to a four because she brought milk and honey into the fold and nobody fucking with that right now.

Speaker 5 17:02

That's true.

Speaker 1 17:03

Whoa, whoa whoa Milk and honey was super bold.

Speaker 5 17:06

It was, but that don't mean we got it down great everybody.

Speaker 1 17:10

That don't mean she broke it down. No, we got it down, but that's the bar.

Speaker 5 17:14

It's a tough crowd. Come on man, it's tough crowd. That's the bar.

Speaker 1 17:19

I mean that's Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks. They both make coffee, but I'm just saying my G, I'm like yeah. I'm mad that I even got to make a point.

Speaker 5 17:29

for that I'm gonna roll with the group I'm gonna be a team player, my five still stands.

Speaker 4 17:33

No, no, listen, ain't nobody taking your five.

Speaker 1 17:35

My five stands too. It's your five. You got fours over here. Tough New Yorker, tough New Yorker.

Speaker 4 17:43

In terms of value for money, I also give it a five. Can we think about it? Three out of the four, three out of the four of us got drinks in addition to our meal, and the overall price was still pretty decent with all that said so I was just like I roll with it. Five's just off of that.

Speaker 5 18:00

Okay, yeah, it was a five. It was definitely a five Good price. I was surprised at the price line. So yeah, I give it a five.

Speaker 3 18:09

I give it a five. I'm giving it a five. I'm giving it a five, even though I don't know how much anything costs. But Listen.

Speaker 1 18:21

First of all, thank you, brother land, brother, land. I pulled, everybody pulled out cards except for Shadra. Everybody pulled out cards and land was like your money's no good here, like a real boss, and I was like I'm not your date.

Speaker 5 18:40

No, no, no no.

Speaker 1 18:41

I felt a little uncomfortable in the moment.

Speaker 5 18:44

See, that's why I had to explain the justice.

Speaker 1 18:47

No, no, you didn't, it's my brother, it's my brother. But yeah, no, lamp took care of it basically, and I want to give him a five as well, because it was four of us. We all had entrees, we all had drinks, except for lamp. We had that good old HUO and the check was 151. Right, so 151 is not bad for people, you know, and do that one too.

Speaker 6 19:11

I used to be in love with this bitch. They mean J the fuck with it. No more. Now I fuck with Tango Ray. Tango Ray, hey yo, what's in the? We need two shots combo.

Speaker 1 19:25

I miss Jess. I had to say that, Jess, if you listen and I miss you. Just some Leo shit. Anywho, we all here with the incomparable Karen L from here.

Speaker 3 19:42

Oh, there we go.

Speaker 4 19:43

She was waiting to do that. You know, I'm saying you from New York without saying you from New York.

Speaker 1 19:50

And she got the J's on that. It's a common misconception that every New York has 10. We don't have 10s, we have J's. Yeah, we have moved on. All right, we have moved on.

Speaker 4 19:59

Yeah, karen, L.

Speaker 1 19:59

Karen L, one of my favorite podcasters. I have a lot of podcasters in my circle. I don't listen to all of them, but I tell them all that I don't listen to all of them, because that's just what it is, but I do listen to them. All right, this woman does everything. And when I say she does everything, I don't know if you like my feed at certain points during the day is flooded with Karen L, you know, and which is crazy, because I have. How many pages do you have? How many pages do you have?

Speaker 6 20:32

Two.

Speaker 2 20:34

Jesus, because it feels like she has like six different pages.

Speaker 6 20:38

It's like I get the feed for that.

Speaker 1 20:41

Then I get the. I get the stories right and the stories going for a while too. I'm not mad at the stories, because most stories that I'm mad at I'm you. Tell us a little bit about what your podcast is.

Speaker 6 20:56

Sad Loud is, I don't even know anymore, because it just kind of took on a life of its own. So it's, it's hip hop, it's culture, it's music, it's it's an hour of making people feel good. It's things that are happening in society that we need to talk about. Yeah, but really it's about making people feel good.

Brunch Preferences and Ambiance Considerations

Speaker 1 21:20

All right, so check it out. I'm not even going to like be long-winded with it, but what I do want to know is because we do we all sitting here have a huge podcast stir following right. And what I ask people all the time is like what's your why? Why do you do it Like? Why do you do it specifically?

Speaker 6 21:41

It makes me happy. It makes me happy. I had this like I know how talented I am and I know that I had this feeling in my stomach and I kept trying to suppress it. And then sit at a desk and do my job and do all the other things except what the nature of life was telling me to do. And when I do this I'm happy. So I do it for me and I'm fortunate enough that so many people enjoy it and they like it. But really it was because I couldn't live just knowing that I wasn't doing something with all my creativity and my energy. When it came to that, Copy I wasn't being honest with myself.

Speaker 1 22:26

There we go, there we go. I think that that's pretty much all about why's. As well, we all enjoy it. You know we all, as humans, we get higher on escapism, you know. So if you can escape, go ahead. What we're going to do right now is basically have in my head I'm like go back.

Speaker 2 22:44

Way back Now what we're going to do right now. We got a quick fire.

Speaker 1 22:49

We're going to ask you 10 questions, all right. People that know me know I hate the backstory. We're going to keep it short. Okay, we'll keep it short, but you know this already. All right, so I'm probably add like some clock sounds in the back. Anyway, what's your favorite brunch spot and why?

Speaker 6 23:08

That's hard. My favorite brunch spot.

Speaker 1 23:13

I'm going to treat this like um. I don't know what you call it. It really passed. I can't pass.

Speaker 6 23:19

Huh, I can't pass.

Speaker 1 23:20

We're going to come back to it though.

Speaker 6 23:22

Okay, come back to that one.

Speaker 1 23:23

All right. Next, how important is the food quality when deciding on the brunch place?

Speaker 6 23:27

Very important. No, it's important.

Speaker 1 23:29

What's your favorite food, though?

Speaker 6 23:32

Anything with chicken.

Speaker 1 23:33

Copy.

Speaker 6 23:34

She's right in.

Speaker 4 23:35

She's right in.

Speaker 1 23:39

Do you prefer a large variety of options or smaller on the menu? Okay, why is that? Because I eat how?

Speaker 6 23:44

I feel Sometimes.

Speaker 1 23:45

I feel like a lot.

Speaker 6 23:46

Sometimes I don't, I got to depend how. I feel I'm emotional eater. I think we all are. I think we all are Sometimes. I mean, you know, sometimes I want a burger, sometimes I want to stay. I got to see how I feel.

Speaker 1 23:57

I don't know how.

Speaker 6 23:57

I'm going to feel Okay, okay. So how long does it take for you to actually order after the guy puts the menu in your hand? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 24:10

How long does it take for you to order after the guy puts?

Speaker 6 24:13

the menu in your hand, maybe about four minutes. I'm hungry, though.

Speaker 3 24:18

I see how I feel but overall I feel hungry.

Speaker 4 24:21

She was like hold on, let me see. Well, that was a pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 24:25

It was especially asking for an almond egg for a menu. You mean the almond egg and come back in four minutes.

Speaker 6 24:31

I mean I see how I feel, but we still hungry. I'm the type of person to be like no, I don't want to drink first. I don't want to eat because I'm going to tell you what I'm going to order right now.

Speaker 1 24:41

All right. So what type of ambience do you prefer when you go to brunch?

Speaker 6 24:49

You know what I used to like the brunch spots that had the parties in them. I used to like that because I thought that was really cool. It was like being in a club and having brunch. And for a minute. That was popping.

Speaker 1 24:59

Right right.

Speaker 6 25:00

Until I couldn't talk to my friends because we were screaming at each other. And then I was like this is not how I want to have brunch with y'all. So yeah, I think if I can't hear you, I don't you know like that's not really how I want to have brunch, so enough that you know we could enjoy each other's company.

Speaker 1 25:19

Copy you ever been to Angels of Harlem.

Speaker 6 25:23

No.

Speaker 1 25:24

It's just like that for brunch. It's crazy Because I took Shadrow when it was like during COVID that we went because they had them plastic what you call is up. It was during COVID. Yeah, it was probably.

Speaker 5 25:41

No, it was definitely COVID for sure 100%, it was loud during COVID.

Speaker 1 25:44

Huh.

Speaker 5 25:45

It was loud during COVID.

Speaker 1 25:46

No, it wasn't loud during COVID when I took it, they had like the plastic separation social distancing thing going on, but they do have the DJ and everything and it gets crazy in there, just like that day party.

Speaker 6 26:00

Yeah, I took my daughter with me to one, because I figured, oh, we're just going to go and the brunch just. You know you can come, it's fine. And then they closed, all the lights went off, the blinds came down I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't have brought my like there's kids in here Turned into a lot of girls and the ladies came out with the sparklers.

Speaker 3 26:22

They got the strobe lights. I'm like yo it's one o'clock.

Speaker 6 26:27

I'm still tired from last night, Like what y'all doing.

Speaker 4 26:31

Yeah, yeah, the waiting for your order.

Speaker 6 26:33

Yeah, brunch is, you know not what it used to be. It's a different kind of brunch.

Speaker 1 26:37

It is, it is Okay. So how significant is the quality of service in the overall?

Speaker 6 26:45

services important in my life. Oh not just in brunch and everything that I do.

Speaker 1 26:50

I want to be treated well.

Speaker 6 26:51

Yeah, and every, in every single thing that I do it. Do you want to check your own stuff at Target? No, I don't work here. I want to be treated well everywhere that I go.

Speaker 1 27:00

Oh, we're going to have a conversation because we just got back off of a little birthday retreat. Let's talk about some things, anyway, okay, do you prefer casual or formal?

Speaker 6 27:12

Formal, oh, formal, so you want to get dressed up. Yes.

Speaker 1 27:17

And you want it to be quiet.

Speaker 6 27:19

Yes, I want to hear the person I'm there with, otherwise I could have came by myself.

Speaker 4 27:24

So how formal we talking. We're talking like Oscars formal dressing.

Speaker 6 27:28

No, but like I hope not Like I got to be the most hood person in the place.

Speaker 5 27:34

Oh, okay, you have to be no yeah.

Speaker 6 27:36

I'm the I'm the bar, because I don't want to go places where I'm against shot she was like you know you say, if somebody look more dangerous than you, you can't go Exactly Okay, and I don't look dangerous. So you know what I mean. There are certain places that is just like if you're there, I'm not there.

Brunch Preferences and Friendship Dynamics

Speaker 4 27:56

You know, I can't be mad If I just see you're underwear, then I'm not staying. I mean it's sad, but I was hoping nothing like that. Pop off with a brunch, but you never know.

Speaker 6 28:04

This is New York. Yeah, it depends where you are. The AB you never know, but like I think you know at a certain age, it's nice to you know just relax.

Speaker 1 28:15

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. What are some must have menu, must have menu items for brunch.

Speaker 6 28:23

Yeah, momosis.

Speaker 1 28:26

Okay, pretty regular.

Speaker 6 28:28

Yeah, I think Bellini's and Momosis are necessary Okay.

Speaker 1 28:32

It was a time point in time, rather, that I thought that mimosas for were for women and it just came up with Bellini's for dudes. So it was like but totally not the case.

Speaker 6 28:42

I feel like I just drink it. Bring the picture and leave it on the table Right.

Speaker 1 28:48

Let me see how important is the availability of vegan and vegetarian options during brunch.

Speaker 6 28:56

That's not my problem.

Speaker 4 29:00

I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so what if one of your homegirls is rolling with you and it's no, you know, and she's a vegan, or she's a vegan.

Speaker 6 29:06

I mean, like we could look at a place. If you can't eat there, then we could look somewhere else.

Speaker 4 29:11

Okay. You know, we said that's not my problem, we're like girl, we're going here.

Speaker 6 29:16

I mean like how vegan and how vegetarian you know too, because there's some people that are like pescetarian and then they're like I'll eat the eggs but I won't eat the chicken. Like you know, they got to sort that out.

Speaker 1 29:29

They do have to sort that out. That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 6 29:31

Yeah, that's because there's so many varieties of vegan Like you're going to wear leather or not, right? I don't understand, or it's like what did I say Like vegan leather, what's that I?

Speaker 4 29:43

don't have no idea they could make that. They grew it Like I don't understand.

Speaker 5 29:46

That sounds crazy. What is that? It sounds like a From a tiger.

Speaker 6 29:49

Oh, okay, you see what I'm saying Are you serious, they planted it yeah. So I feel like there's so much range in that that they got to figure that out. Look at the menu and figure it out, or the soup, or the what, or the soup. Yeah, there we go, just drink, just drink.

Speaker 1 30:14

Do you enjoy bottomless brunches or before a la carte?

Speaker 6 30:19

Bottomless brunches.

Speaker 1 30:21

Bottomless. Yeah, so it could be one specific, basically like mimosas that you just drink continuously.

Speaker 6 30:28

Sure, that's, fine.

Speaker 1 30:29

You just go with that, yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 30:32

I don't mind, it's one o'clock.

Speaker 1 30:34

Alright, and I think that you answered this some way. Some way somehow, rather, would you say that the value for money is important, is an important factor when choosing a brunch place.

Speaker 6 30:51

I don't really know, because it depends.

Speaker 1 30:53

You don't want tuna fish on a cracker for like 12 hours.

Speaker 6 30:56

No, but I'm also willing to pay for the things that I like and I want and service, like I'm not. If I like it and I know, like the food is good here, the ambiance is good and it's going to cost me a little bit more. I'm willing to pay a little bit more if I'm going to get what I want.

Speaker 1 31:15

We were at. We were in the Poconos, right, and we had we went to Doublecut right. So there's a steakhouse up there. Crazy, Ambiance was real dope, you know, the ambiance was dope. Shaddux was making new friends with somebody else's little kids. You were, she sat down and his little kid in the booth behind us because he had like little windows, stood up and plastered her face on the window, Like you know, trying to come through and the father was like sit down, Jenny, come back to dinner. But anyway, um, yeah, that whole thing. But I ordered the. What was it? Short ribs, short rib tacos.

Speaker 2 31:58

Sounds good.

Speaker 4 31:59

Yeah Sounds good, right.

Speaker 1 32:01

So basically, what it was was square one ton wrappers right that were fried. Look at the other y'all like, yeah, let's, let's do it. That were fried in a taco shape.

Speaker 4 32:12

Okay.

Speaker 1 32:13

Right, and then there was a dollop of short rib.

Speaker 6 32:18

Oh, that's not what I expected you to say.

Speaker 1 32:21

I know.

Speaker 4 32:22

I know.

Speaker 1 32:23

Yeah, $20.

Speaker 4 32:24

No, I see yeah.

Speaker 1 32:25

And it was four of them. I ended up fucking rich cracker with fucking a dollop of fucking short ribs for $20. Like I could have did this shit at home and you know the game a couple of pounds because I would have got more out of it. But why did they just speak into your point?

Speaker 6 32:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1 32:43

You know, just speaking to your point that was kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 32:45

That is kind of crazy. I hate when you go to a spot and you pay, overpay for something and you don't feel full or satisfied at all.

Speaker 2 32:50

Yeah.

Speaker 4 32:51

That's something that that that dollop ass stuff ain't gonna fill you up At all.

Speaker 1 32:55

There you go, however, sorry you, anti poor. I had a pork job. That was about eight day, right, and shit. That shit was like almost 50 bucks, but it was amazing Money well spent, amazing. You know, they took they whatever they did. However, it was prepared, but then they put it on like a pure, a bed of pure aid, whatever. I'm still trying to figure out what it was, but it was good. Didn't come with any size. That was kind of disappointing, right. But now I don't know how this quick fire turned into what I was eating. Yeah, basically right, main course.

Speaker 2 33:35

It's time to eat what's on your mind.

Speaker 4 33:39

All right, Ryan, take it away. Oh man, so the main topic we have here, I title it everybody can't go. Nipsey, the late great Nipsey, was one of my favorites to listen to and has a bar where he goes. Circle got smaller. Everybody can't go. Not going to ask anybody's agent here, but I'm happy to say I recently turned 40, late last year October. But this topic came to mind because you know I have like four well, I had a total of like four guys who I wrote with for the most part and we would have conversations in a group chat or whenever we go out to a little lounge or whatever, and we're all married except for one of us, but we'd always talk about, you know, the importance of refinancing, saving up for this.

Navigating Changing Relationships and Priorities

Speaker 4 34:24

Now the third you know, how are you advancing your career? Just mature topics, right, and there's always that. There was always that fourth guy in the group who would just be like yeah, but what the bitch is that, though, and it's like, it's like we ain't on that. I was like I'm married. You know, you don't have to send news in a group chat. We don't need to see who you. You know stuff like that.

Speaker 1 34:46

So can I jump in real quick, please? Who's sending news in the in the fucking group?

Speaker 4 34:51

chat.

Speaker 1 34:52

It happens, man Wait but are these news of people that they're with?

Speaker 4 34:57

No, let me rephrase like random news no, we're not news where they were, like maybe you remember when the Fappening happened. I don't know if anybody remember that. Oh okay, it was like a period of time where, like all these celebrities, stuff got leaked.

Speaker 1 35:13

Oh, when they shit got leaked. Yeah, when they shit got leaked.

Speaker 4 35:16

Like making goods hope solo soccer player, stuff like that.

Speaker 5 35:20

Yeah.

Speaker 4 35:20

I saw Jill Scott. There you go, stuff like that.

Speaker 3 35:23

So he would just send stuff like that, but it was like.

Speaker 4 35:24

I didn't even know she had titties.

Speaker 3 35:27

No, I knew she had titties.

Speaker 5 35:30

I know she got titties. I was like damn bro, you can't miss those.

Speaker 4 35:37

But my point is it's like you know, we ain't on that we don't.

Speaker 4 35:41

I don't need to see what making good looks like topless stuff, like that. I mean, it was just like one of those things where it was like everybody's in this direction and you got somebody who's like, like I said, you know, are we going to the club so I could try to pick up somebody that's in the third and you know, you just kind of see that you know your trajectories or things that you hold value to kind of change or different, and so I just wanted to bring that to the group See if anybody has had that type of experience where it's like I, this person who, yeah, I may have grown up with this person, but you know, clearly we own the same different wavelengths the older we get. Has anybody had that experience? And if so, you know, how did you go about it? Like, did you kind of ghost them or did you kind of be like having a conversation with them first, like, look, I don't know what you want, but we know the same place? Like how did you go about that? Anybody could start.

Speaker 1 36:31

We're going to throw that to our guests first, there you go. Let her take a stab at it.

Speaker 6 36:38

Well, I don't have very many friends that I grew up with and hang out with now because I just don't Like I know them but I wouldn't call them my friends in my circle. The people in my circle are always going to be, they're good people and they're always going to be close to me, so it really doesn't matter. I think, as far as like the relationship thing and where we are in our lives, I've noticed that there's cycles and people go through these cycles in life. And sometimes I'm married and, because some of us have been friends a long time, I'm married, you're not married. I'm single, you're not single.

Speaker 6 37:15

You got kids, my kids are grown and so some of us have managed to kind of hang through it with each other and other and other people. You kind of just got to be like I when, when they're ready, they'll, you know, come back around and pull it together. But you got some like if you really love someone and those are your people's, you understand who they are and you love them for who they are and you've got to let them be but just be like I'm not doing that with you, you know, because he's like meeting with it yet, yeah.

Speaker 6 37:42

So you know, that's just kind of for me. I'm not going to not be your friend anymore because of where you are, because I still love you. I'm just not going to be with you in the club at 6am because I got to go to work tomorrow and if you want, if you want to sleep all day, I'll highlight you later.

Speaker 6 37:58

Fair, very fair Okay and that's and that's just that. But the truth of the matter is like your personality Attracts the people that you're gonna be around, so those people that are not supposed to be there are gonna get shaken out anyway.

Speaker 4 38:11

Yeah, yeah, I know, like I said, I wouldn't say I go to the person, but it was just one of those things where you kind of just lose touch because Like, like I said I'll, just our priorities just didn't align anymore, like that. You know I'm saying. So that's kind of how I happen?

Speaker 4 38:25

you just the interest phase, like if I would invite them to like a house party or something like that, or I get together, not a house party, like he wouldn't come because it's like you know, it's like what damn this is all. Either marry people, very few singles I'm a sticker like a so thumb, so I felt like he would feel uncomfortable, is certain, you know social gatherings, even though that wasn't the case. So it was just one of those things where, even if I would reach out, extending hand, it's like unfortunately, you know, I knew he wasn't gonna come anyway, just for whatever reason. No stuff like that.

Speaker 1 38:54

Yeah, and I feel like when you let's talk about relationships for a second Um, but when you switch gears right and you're running with a pack of singles and you become the person with the relationship, then shit changes. You know, I mean shit changes. Should changes with regards to the conversations that you're having. You know, I mean, depending on who you are, you know what you're about should change with the conversation that you're having. Um, the time spent, you know the times that they can actually even call you know or stop by, you know, I mean or and be in your physical presence because of the fact that now you actually have, you know you took, you took root and something, and it's not that right, right.

Outgrowing Relationships and Leaving People

Speaker 1 39:37

So yeah, just basically just having a to. I've been that person.

Speaker 4 39:45

Both.

Speaker 1 39:45

I've been.

Speaker 6 39:46

I've been both and people treat you different too. Yeah, because there's on the flip side of that, when I remember getting married and being like okay, uh, yeah, I don't invite me out no more. No, well, damn yeah and just cuz I'm married doesn't mean I can't go outside.

Speaker 1 40:01

But you suck at being a wingman, you know. Okay, but like I can go outside but you can't take one for the team. That's not what we was about.

Speaker 4 40:14

Did you like confront a bottle at how come.

Speaker 6 40:16

I think that there's. I think people always think that like oh, you're married, you can't do this, or you're with someone, you can't do that, and it's like, bro, like, but we're friends.

Speaker 4 40:25

Yeah, so we're so.

Speaker 6 40:26

We're not friends no more because we can't be outside like getting guys together or getting girls together.

Speaker 4 40:31

We're not friends that then, you were not my friend to begin with the first place, like, hey, how come you don't invite me out? Did you actually ask?

Speaker 1 40:44

But let me ask you, though, like if those were the things and activities that you guys Partook in, then what? Yeah, I mean, that's what it was rooted in. It was rooted in us going out, being able to do whatever, whatever Flirting with whomever we want to flirt with the whole tandem thing. You know, that's what we did. So when you take away a piece of that magic, then of course they gonna slide to the side and be like you know, that's why they're not my friend oh.

Speaker 6 41:11

I feel bad but I feel like that was when I was younger, that's what. I'm saying that was when I was a lot younger. My friends, now our relationships are not like that, because we're just kind of mature enough now to be like, oh, we're friends, we're friends Whatever happens Happens and we just, you know we're gonna ride through it, regardless of what it is. But at 22 it was like we going out, so you rolling or not, you know that's, that, was that.

Speaker 4 41:36

But I do agree, like I wouldn't want to confront somebody if they stop Invite me to stuff. But now you're gonna get the charity invite, like all you know. Karen else she did complain last time, so let's invite it. Let's, let's throw a lifeline.

Speaker 1 41:47

I don't want to throw in a no lifeline. I'm even trying to have that.

Speaker 3 41:55

Now I'm the designated driver here, hold my keys hold my purse.

Speaker 4 41:58

Yes, you don't drink it anymore. Yeah, I don't want to hold nobody purse in the club Watch our drinks.

Speaker 5 42:04

She makes the mic get cut short. Yeah, I take your murder.

Speaker 1 42:11

Hold on now we all got to go cuz she drove. That's kind of crazy. Um yeah, what about you?

Speaker 3 42:24

No.

Speaker 1 42:28

I Definitely was that person, for sure. You know, on both sides not even a relationship side, but also on the business side we get left behind, right, we leave people behind. Like Karen said, there's a cycle. I've been left behind and that's because our what we wanted in life at the time didn't align. You know and I'm talking about on a business level. You know, I have a friend that makes a lot of money that literally tried to drag me along, but it's not what I want to do. I don't want to do that. You get what I'm saying. So, whether intentional or non-intentional, we all get left behind.

Speaker 1 43:08

I've left a Truckload of motherfuckers behind, right, because my ambition didn't match their ambition. You know, they were satisfied with just running in place. I don't want to run in place. I'm not a running place type of nigga. That's just not what I do. You understand. I'm saying the scenery has to change and the volume of the income has to change as well. So they both have to. Actually, well, the income has to go north. The scenery, we can go, lad it, you know it could be linear or whatever, but um, yeah, I've left people behind. I've been left behind. You know what about you? Live you quiet over there?

Speaker 5 43:42

Oh no.

Speaker 1 43:43

Yeah, that's one of the next question.

Speaker 4 43:44

Yeah, yeah, I know Karen just talked about how she felt left behind. You just say how you felt left behind. I've been on that side, same side too. Well, yeah, let's have you been left behind in, just in case as well, or?

Speaker 5 43:56

I mean, yeah, I've been, I was. I'm glad you said it because it's both sides like for me. I always go back to where people grew up, like the environment. So the environment I grew up in A lot will made me leave some people behind. And then some people left me behind because they went I'm more educated, mm-hmm, started making more money, so they status change, mm-hmm. So for me a Lot of things was just trying to figure things out. Like when you grow up and you're not really thinking about what your next step is right, you gonna get left behind because you know you're not playing it. So I'm not a good planner. So that's, that's a lot of reason I got left behind and I'm still working on playing, but Now I have a direction of where I want to go. So now I'm kind of moving forward. So I'm kind of leaving people behind, but now I'm trying to catch that to other people right, exactly.

Speaker 1 44:51

And then going back to the arm, to what Karen said earlier, like whereby I guess you kind of alluded to like then I'm a friends, he wasn't my friend, you're not my friend, she was a strain.

Speaker 6 45:04

No, no, I actually really, I actually really, but. But I think now, when you're talking about it, I don't think I don't look at it as left behind, I just think you outgrow people.

Speaker 2 45:15

Yeah, like.

Staying Motivated in Pursuing Dreams

Speaker 6 45:15

I'm being fun like they're not my friends, but I just think that you outgrow people and I think it's okay to outgrow people because we're you're not the same person you were 10 years ago. So then your friends are not gonna be the same people. And I said that when I walks into the room, All of you guys like you're my friends and we just all met in real life but we all been talking and followed, but you, you meet this bunch of creatives and you all work together and now you have something in common where there could be people you know your whole life that ain't rooting for you, and so you know you just you grow to where you you're nurtured and you're respected and you you're Comfortable and you and you can grow and you're watered, and that's okay. It's okay to be like you know what. It's time for me to move on from this or outgrow this. And then there's other people that are gonna circle back into your life and that's okay too.

Speaker 4 46:02

Yeah, well, he bothered that. I actually was gonna be a question I was gonna ask later on in line, but you really killed that. So, just Off of what Karen said, anybody else can answer as well. Hazard what? How do you stay motivated or focus on your own path even when friends or family may not Believe in or understanding what you're trying to do, like, for example, while doing this podcast thing? Like, how do you stay motivated to do your extra curricular Goals even outside of your nine to fives or whatever the case?

Speaker 1 46:31

is difficult. This is extremely difficult. Um what I did was I married another creative there you go right.

Speaker 1 46:40

So you, she understands my pain, right, because she has you know what she's doing and whenever I fall to, she understands why. She may not understand fully, because of you know it's a whole different vertical, but she understands, she gets it. So what I try to do is basically make sure that I'm hugged. One of her Biggest supporters, like I, put the pom-poms on without understanding the night. You know, we constantly like when we first got together, I Was just like a fucking burden, literally like a burden. She's like yo, I'm gonna do X, y, z, but because I burn so hot, I'm just like so let's do it All, right, cool, so she'll show up the next day or we'll have a conversation the next day, and I'm already 80 moves ahead, right, not moving at husband. So that was one of the things that I had to learn.

Speaker 1 47:29

But getting back to what you said, though, that's what keeps me motivated, and then I have created, such as yourselves, that I make sure that I reach out to when I see you doing something I know that could compliment what I'm doing, and when I say that, I mean not just taking what you do and then adding it to what I do. Now I'm talking about just how you moving. You know, if you're constantly out there and anything, I'm a quality whore. So if you out there and I see a bunch of whatever because I noticed that you changed up your promotion, trust me, I noticed. If you can ask me anything, about Carrell I'll tell you about it.

Speaker 1 48:02

You know I mean I'll tell you about. I'll tell you what I absolutely love about it. You know what I mean. Um, that to me is important. You know that that's important. So that's how I self motivate. You know, I go on the gram and I'm not flipping through all these big booty chicks. I don't know how to get in my I sort of I don't be like none of them, I'll be poking fun at the fact that it's square All right now.

Speaker 1 48:35

I was saying, uh-huh, you guys actually motivate me. So when you go through my timeline, it is a lot of people that actually motivate me and stuff that I'm actually doing. So I have to self motivate. A lot of times you get what I'm saying because she's off doing her own thing and I need to stay. Stay the course. You know, and you guys already know, standing in the room, if you're the dreamer, you'll be standing amongst motherfuckers that will are quick to dash your dreams because they don't know how to drink. You know, and that's a problem for me.

Speaker 1 49:06

I don't want. I want to be next to somebody dreaming the impossible.

Speaker 2 49:10

Yeah.

Building a Supportive Circle of Friends

Speaker 1 49:11

How can we get there? It's impossible, I know. Well, let's get there anyway, you know I mean. So that's that's important to me okay, uh, well, I know.

Speaker 4 49:22

For me personally, uh, I think you know you and um, styles, karen and style have great answers. I think for me, what keeps me motivated is simply actually just, you know the different type of strangers that you just come across, that you didn't even know supported you. Um, I forget the person's name that I was scrolling through tic-tac I'm trying to be more active on tic-tac with some of my content and she said something I'm paraphrasing, but she was said something along the lines of yes, your family and friends love you, but they may not understand what you do. Therefore, you may not get the support from your family or friends doesn't mean they don't love you. They just may not understand that, therefore, they don't support it. But if you just keep your head up, keep keep grinding, you'll be surprised At how many other strangers that you never even met would be some of your biggest supporters, and I've seen that through Some my youtube channel or someone just like hey, man, that's a funny movie review, which you did.

Speaker 4 50:14

I thought that was dope. I agree or disagree with your point, but this is the third. So I think just the how amazing it could be for a complete stranger to Show support that don't even know you like that from Adam, I think that's kind. I think that feels kind of amazing. What about you? Lamp?

Speaker 5 50:31

Well, for me, I'm gonna just be honest. I don't like going to work Every every like it feel like you work five days to get the enjoy too.

Speaker 3 50:42

And I'm tired of that so.

Speaker 5 50:44

That's my one of my biggest motivations. Also, like when I feel like I'm losing motivation, I listen to other podcasts. Like I don't understand how people do podcasts but don't listen to them. That's like when I hear people say I don't listen to podcasts, they're lying lamp.

Speaker 1 51:04

Huh they're lying that they don't listen. No, that, yeah, they do listen. They're telling you that you know what?

Speaker 5 51:10

honestly I believe them. I don't think they listen and honestly know, well, it's gonna be disrespectful. They podcast show it because it's not that good. Well see, I mean not disrespectful.

Speaker 1 51:21

It's the truth.

Speaker 5 51:22

Um, and we not, we not podcast shaming, you know, to each other no it's just, it's a lot of them, you may listen to my podcast and say it's not good, but that's the thing, though they so this is the thing.

Speaker 1 51:32

What happens is this, and you Probably a hundred percent right. My take on it is that they do listen to podcasts. They don't listen to their own podcasts.

Speaker 5 51:41

That's a problem and I'm gonna be honest, I don't listen to my own.

Speaker 2 51:44

I'll listen to.

Speaker 5 51:46

Everybody podcast, but but that's what you have to.

Speaker 1 51:49

In terms of growth though You're, you're gonna miss a lot by not listening to your own podcast and what I'm saying you don't have to listen to every one of them, right, but Not listening to your podcast, right? It's basically you running in place, you just gonna run in place. So, however you start it, that's how you're going in every episode.

Speaker 5 52:09

So here's the thing when I'm adding in it, I have to listen.

Speaker 2 52:13

But when I?

Speaker 5 52:14

say I listen, I'm not listening. It's more like the full playback yeah, like, like, because I'm adding it.

Speaker 2 52:20

So I gotta listen.

Speaker 5 52:21

Mm-hmm but I'm not consuming it because I was already there.

Speaker 1 52:25

You, you were there, but you were there in the moment. So, with you being there in the moment, what I do is, after I edit it and bust it down, I'm listening to it and the call on the way to work. I'm a captive audience. Now I can't do any. I have to listen to it. I'm gonna find shit that I'm like that's fucked up. I shouldn't have said it the way. I said that, and you know me and how did I miss when this person said that and I could have Capitalized and did something else with it. You get what I'm saying. So your pivot game becomes better because of the fact that you're listening to yourself. It's, it's that's how you grow um, I don't disagree.

Speaker 5 52:59

I don't disagree. Um, I watched. You know me. I watched a lot of sports and I was listening to skip Baylor's I know people don't like skip Baylor's right and he said he never listens to his stuff and I think skip is really good. Me person right like yeah, you hate it, but he's good at what he does.

Speaker 2 53:17

So some for some people.

Speaker 5 53:18

It's literally like, and I could be doing myself a disservice, but it's like I, literally I, I just cannot go back and watch it and listen. I'm listening to. I've recorded like 300 episodes. Hmm, I think I like really sat down and listened to about 10 of them.

Speaker 1 53:37

I don't listen to all my episodes. Maybe I'll listen to the ones that I sat down, like, for instance, this I'm gonna listen to because I'm like, damn, I'm enjoying it, so I'm gonna listen to it their episodes that I have done and I'm like Listen to that shit and see that's different too, because it's, it's, it's.

Speaker 5 53:51

It's like five of us right. So I don't, I wasn't, because for me, when I so, when I'm doing my podcast, I'm already trying to frame up the next question Okay, this, this, this. So it's like I've worked, I've worked really hard to thinking that question Mm-hmm. So they answered it. I heard it, I remember it.

Speaker 4 54:16

Gotcha. Well, I mean there was a month, I think we pretty much covered the topic. I mean there was a few other follow-up questions, but I think just in natural conversation, natural flow Really hit all the bells and whistles.

Speaker 1 54:28

I think I had a. There was a couple in here. Let me see, I want to know, like, for instance, there are people and I'm gonna throw this at you that you carry so you can knock somebody head off. You know, like, how do you like, for instance, the people that are or have the people in their lives you know that aren't aligning, I guess, with their goals, how do you have that conversation with them? You know, I mean, how do you approach that? You got a friend?

Speaker 1 54:56

now, this is a friend and you know you're realizing that you're outpacing them in a few different ways. So you're growing apart. But you don't want to grow apart. You kind of want to pull them along because they have potential, right. So how do you have the conversation? Do you have the conversation? You just go to them.

Speaker 6 55:15

Yeah, I'm not a point in my life where I'm not telling anybody what to do or how to do it, or, or, or or, saying you have potential. That's like me being a relationship with a man telling him he got potential and I see his potential and I got it. What difference is that if it's a male or female?

Speaker 2 55:33

and.

Speaker 6 55:33

I'm still pouring into somebody who's not pouring into theyself and I'm dragging them with me. Nah, that's your mama problem, that's not my problem. I'm not having that conversation. You're an adult, you'll figure it out, but I'm not. I'm not at a place in my life where I have energy to Navigate somebody else's life.

Speaker 4 55:52

So if y'all grow apart, y'all, just that's just what it is.

Speaker 6 55:54

I'll be here when you ready.

Speaker 1 55:56

So I got a round table question what strategies, things? This was a good one. It's always like I'm finding again. What strategies have you used to build a smaller, more supportive Circle of Friends? Right, because you had mentioned before you were like yo, you could have people that you know all your life and they won't support you. And for me, I think that's kind of crazy when you think about it, because we're all older now. Yeah, so, hindsight being 2020, we've all done that too. Right, we've been that friend with another friend doing something Astronomically good, but you know, just not our thing and we won't support them. Right, won't drop by their, their Graham and drop a like just to show support. You understand, I'm saying gain some type of momentum or whatever. What strategies have you or and this is for everybody right? Right, have we gotten, or use, rather, to tighten up that circle and just build on that foundation?

Speaker 4 56:56

specifically, I wouldn't say what answer. Of course I don't have any type of set X and O strategy, but like, for example, like the same set of friends who I grew up not grow up I've known him since college Shout out to Preston travels in my lifetime. That's somebody who I grew up with and he's doing his old. You know. It has this whole YouTube thing as well and we just one day since we both got our own channel we just like a, no matter what, a, if a channel comes across my feed, no matter what I'm doing, I definitely will watch the video in its entirety because that counts in terms of YouTube analytics, and I'm gonna give it a, you know, a like and and at least a short comment at the least. And vice versa, like I Could drop a YouTube video up, you know, recapping the latest episode of BMF, for example, if it comes across his feet, he's that that's gonna be like a guarantee.

Speaker 4 57:49

I'ma like it and I'm letting you know what I thought about that was for this. Well, I mean, so that's just kind of like this, you know. You know, like unofficial agreement. We have right. Whatever you do, I'm a support and likewise, and that's really the type of strategy we have, and same with my other friend. He doesn't have a YouTube himself. The same thing if he sees it, he's gonna support it. That's just what it is.

Speaker 1 58:10

Okay, all right. What about you?

Speaker 5 58:12

I mean, um, for me personally, like it depends on what they know, like if they. So for me, if you have a business where you selling something, I'm always by now, I can't promise you I'm gonna use it or like it. Hmm, I will buy it. Mm-hmm, some stuff I use and I Like it, right stuff.

Speaker 2 58:31

It's like a man.

Speaker 5 58:34

I just want to see you win, so I bought it. So it's so cool cuz for me. This, I mean this, this is my opinion. Support for me is financial. Hmm, like the likes and stuff is great and it's cool, but if somebody selling something it's like you do, it goes much further when you buy it. So I'm a money person.

Speaker 1 58:58

I Think it's two-fold. Actually, the easiest way, obviously, is to drop a light, you know, and because it helps with the algorithm you know to, to bring more eyes to that you know specific thing or whatever product is there I'm selling. I'm with the money thing too, cuz I'm like that too, like you can throw money at it, obviously, you know. But once you throw money at it like, for instance, if I get a shirt from somebody and I've been known to do it In the past, especially during COVID I was buying up mad shit and just putting it on and flicking it up with with that. You know that's showing like support as well, right, mm-hmm?

Speaker 1 59:36

Speaking of which, I'm working on my safe loud too, cuz, you know you got like ten different stores. So, so, um, you know that that for me, shows that somebody's had. You know, you, you're supporting somebody for real. You know, um, I've tightened up that circle because I realized that a lot of people talk just cuz they like to hear the sound of they voices. You give them saying nod. You know that I'm like actions speak louder than words, you're not even you're not even dropping a like and that's easy and I'm done.

Speaker 1 1:00:07

I'm not begging for likes. You know what I'm saying? I'm not begging for likes cuz we all know that we have to reach beyond our circle sometimes in order to Game momentum, get momentum and show like that's all of them, yeah, it's all the time. But then you also have those friends right that do shit. That you like. I can't stand behind that. I'm not reposting that. I can't repost that.

Speaker 6 1:00:30

Like can you, can you repost this for me? And I'm like what I'm doing? Then they gonna think that I said that and I didn't say that. You know, so you have to, you have to. You kind of got to be cautious sometimes and tell people no. But for the most part also, I think in the position we're in and we have a platform, there are people too that you're like okay, I am in a place where I can give somebody a voice so I can help somebody else.

Speaker 6 1:00:57

Just like they can help me, and so that you got to look at it that way too and and be able to support a lot of other people in the way you.

Support vs Yes-Men

Speaker 1 1:01:05

However, you can do it too and it's kind of like sketchy, because you know, of course, your friends are your friends. You don't want them to. I want my friends to support me because they like what I do. Yeah, I don't want my friends to support me because they're my friends, right? That's why I guess, on the other side of it, I don't give the people that I love don't support what I'm doing, because that just means that you know now have to work on what I'm doing, you know, to broaden my reach. That's all that means, you know. I mean, don't, don't tell me your style. You know, I really feel the pub I used to have people like. You know, how do I get on your podcast? Have you listened to my podcast? Nah, get the fuck away from me then.

Speaker 2 1:01:44

What we talking about right now.

Speaker 1 1:01:47

Yeah, cuz this, you know that that's gonna be a one and done. They're gonna come on, they're gonna promote their episode. You don't like the product, you just like the platform.

Speaker 5 1:01:57

That's it you know and I need promote themselves eggs.

Speaker 1 1:02:00

Yeah, exactly exactly you know. So I mean, it is what it is, um oh.

Speaker 4 1:02:07

Well, all right, so kind of going backwards a little bit.

Speaker 2 1:02:11

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 1:02:11

I'm about to say could you have like 50 questions on it? He asked like three questions was like all right, you know.

Speaker 4 1:02:20

Was flowing so smooth. Some of them did get answers.

Speaker 2 1:02:22

Yeah, yeah, that's a fact though.

Speaker 4 1:02:23

So I you know, but okay, so I Know there's a. Is there a thin line between, like a yes man and someone who can really just Support what you do like? Is there a thin line between that? Anybody can answer. I'll say yes, okay, yeah, yeah, like so are you able to spot the difference?

Speaker 5 1:02:42

in that case, oh, okay, so you said they yes, me, yeah.

Speaker 4 1:02:48

Like, for example, when your homeboys is like you know, no matter what you say, lamp could be like you know what? I think I'm gonna be an astronaut. He's like yo, go do it. And it's like you have no math or science.

Speaker 5 1:03:00

No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:03:02

Yes, man so we class was lunchroom, right.

Speaker 5 1:03:05

I'll say this, this, this one of the this one of the most interesting things. Like I got a friend and me and him talk every day and he, he told me, but I won't listen to. But the thing is, if I told him, hey, I need a hundred dollars, he would do it. He just not gonna listen.

Speaker 1 1:03:28

And not only that, though the day that he sat down or sits down is like your land. I Didn't realize you was that nice. That's what is gonna mean.

Speaker 5 1:03:38

One day we was talking and he he listened to an episode and I was like we hear that from him. He was like when you said it on the podcast, but you don't listen to my podcast. He said, oh, I listen to that episode.

Speaker 2 1:03:53

Damn.

Speaker 5 1:03:55

See, but here, but here, real one like that goes, goes a long way. Yeah, yeah, he like he saw this. So it's like I know like he. When I was married my wife was not listening to my pocket, but she would buy me Whatever I needed, supported me.

Speaker 1 1:04:10

So it's like just be honest with me for real, like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not listening every episode, you know what, and it's funny To spot the difference, right, yeah, in order to spot the difference between the guests man and somebody else, or you know, that's genuinely just supporting you. You got look for the consistency. Yeah, right, cuz everybody that loves you is gonna do it on the ask, if I ask you and do right, do it when I don't ask you to do it.

Speaker 1 1:04:38

You get what I'm saying and then it's like I I've gotten to the point. I used to really take it personal when people didn't listen and I'm talking about people that I love, that in my circle, didn't Agree with what I was doing. I am fuck agree that I'm grown. It's not that they agreed or anything, but they it wasn't their thing.

Speaker 4 1:04:58

Okay, right.

Speaker 1 1:04:59

But then you'll, you'll slide in and they listen into the breakfast love no you listen to the breakfast love they get what you. I thought podcast wasn't your thing.

Speaker 5 1:05:07

But you know what to be, to be fair.

Speaker 2 1:05:11

Something about people being famous yeah so I'm like right, that's all about.

Speaker 5 1:05:16

That's the benefit of being famous you can be saying the same shit. Yeah, you was probably saying better shit coming up, yeah but you got famous and now people listening it's like, but now I got a name and some recognition and it's like, well, I Hear you now like I didn't care about you seven years ago. Yeah, you made me care now, so it's like Right there, I'm not ever miles.

Speaker 4 1:05:43

I remember somebody. I forget what it was, so you know, you remember like back in the Napster era or stuff like that. I remember it was like some unreleased Biggie song and we would you goof around and think we were saying some like dope, freestyle or something like that. I remember I'll bit every ball from like this unreleased Biggie song that came out like maybe two months later like publicly and I said the same exact ball, like at lunch at lunch or something.

Speaker 4 1:06:07

I mean I can get that dumb shit out of here. Two months later, when Biggie said it was like man, that's your fire. Yeah, just being goofy, you know, at lunch or something. But, um, I want to go back to some to your point about you say, like you know, just do something without me having to ask. I really feel like that's another line of like.

Speaker 4 1:06:28

You said, someone, someone who's, that's a big difference. Like you know, like couple, my friends, my homeboys, if they have events, stuff like that with a photographer is needed. Like you know, I never have to be like a. If y'all know any gigs, let me know. Like automatically They'd be.

Speaker 4 1:06:43

Like a I got somebody who would really help out for your baby shower in terms of photography, yeah, you know, and that's that's what it is. It's not like I have to ask or beg any of my closest friends, it's automatic. Hey, you need a photographer. I know someone who's really good and, you know, has a pretty Affordable pricing in terms of a rate. So stuff like that. I think that's a really. That's really the only difference I could think of in terms of the difference between, to your point, a yes man or someone who was just like yeah, I just support you, just because I'm genuine about it. Yeah, so yeah. What about you, shadron? Hold on In terms of like you know, do you have any, you know, yes, man moments, or someone just a blindly agreeing with you because you know you're the dope Shadron style.

Speaker 3 1:07:31

No, because for one, my circle is really small, okay, very small, and you know, me and my friends, we both, I mean we're, we're pretty much, we're definitely not yes, me, I mean yes women to each other like we. You know, if something needs to be said, we say it. I don't care if it's gonna hurt your feelings. Like you know, if you're wrong and you know whatever you're doing or whatever, then you know we'll speak, you know we'll, we'll say that to each other. But but yeah, I've never, I haven't been any Situations where it's, you know, like I've been a yes girl or somebody's just agreeing with me, just to be agreeing with me, because, like that, that's kind of fake. So I don't feel good with fakeness. No, I Don't do good with fakeness. So, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 1:08:24

Okay, All right. Can I be honest about something please?

Speaker 4 1:08:27

I.

Speaker 5 1:08:31

Told people some stuff.

Speaker 4 1:08:36

Why'd you do that?

Speaker 5 1:08:37

because for me, right when I know somebody passionate about something I don't want to rob Now, and I know that's probably not a good thing- yeah, you can't ride. Oh, yeah, I'm not listening, cuz I, let's be clear if you grow feathers, you could fly. I know and not so did. So here's the thing. It's weird, cuz if I know you, I won't do it right. But if I don't know you, it's like.

Speaker 6 1:09:09

That's funny, cuz I'm the opposite. If I know you, I will tell you, but that's what I'm saying because I know you enough that I could well no, if I don't know, if I don't know you. I will not, I will not tell you leave it alone. I'd be like I don't know this person, I'm not gonna hurt them. You go, fly baby with your little wings. But if I know you, I will tell you the truth, because I also know that.

Speaker 5 1:09:34

You can do that. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 1:09:35

That's what I'm saying cuz I like.

Speaker 5 1:09:38

I'ma say, I had a cousin, I know him, he was rapping.

Speaker 2 1:09:46

He was rapping it wasn't good.

Speaker 1 1:09:47

You're about 48 but, Nah well, he don't know. That ain't nothing, he opening up for the bidet.

Speaker 5 1:09:54

But, but. But what happened was? He went back, started writing. I said, oh, I Could tell you being, you know, right, right, it's gotten a lot better, right. So it was genuine. But I'm saying like people selling stuff, like one of my friends got on me about a Product I bought and I gave it a review and she was like no, it wasn't that good. And I was like, yeah, probably wasn't, but she's selling the product. I don't want to be the one to stop her sales, so I ride it, just embellished the truth a little, a lot.

Speaker 2 1:10:32

A lot.

Speaker 1 1:10:33

You said a raving review.

Speaker 5 1:10:44

I'm working on that cuz my word need to be good.

Speaker 1 1:10:46

I had no, no, I had you, I had you, but I think that I've done it.

Speaker 1 1:10:50

You know, yeah, I've done it and for me, I'm not gonna. I don't want to be a yes man, you understand. I'm saying I don't feel like I've ever been in a position where I was a yes man, like I'm just like I need this person to be cool with me. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, whatever you do, that's, that's what it is. Blah, blah. I haven't done that, but I do approach it from a constructive point. So like, for instance, if you tell me you want to do something, right, there's a way to do it. It may not be my line of business or whatever, but remember, everything Starts from somewhere. You wouldn't just throw that out.

Speaker 5 1:11:28

No.

Speaker 3 1:11:32

Thanks.

Speaker 1 1:11:34

I was trying to do now verbal now verbal, I know, but you all, I see in my peripheral is the water bottle going up.

Speaker 5 1:11:46

I need one oh.

Speaker 1 1:11:53

Non-verbal communication is it was like what? The bike? We all think it like. You don't do something like this water in that bottle, so he can't possibly. So to give you a classic example, right, let's go back to the rapping thing. Yeah, right, and he's not. You know, he wasn't good. He was not no, which is cool. I think we've all had that person in our family who rapped. That was not good right and their heart was in it.

Speaker 1 1:12:26

I used to want to be a rapper, but I'm from that that age, you know. I mean, so it's like kind of like you either play ball or you rap. No, he sold drugs is one of those. But Did you like? Did you then hit him with a like Constructively, like yo? I think you need to do X, y, z or then bring him. You know genres of rap that you you like. No, I was bad, I just don't but see.

Speaker 2 1:12:52

The crazy part is I.

Speaker 5 1:12:59

Kind of like normally I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do it, but I crushed them, I just crushed them, yeah but something told me do it because I would never do that. Yeah, but he, but for some reason it worked on him. So maybe he needed, maybe he needed me, a nice guy to just crush him. Yeah, but you ain't know that though, I didn't, but maybe it was a good man was on suicide watch for whole month.

Speaker 1 1:13:20

No, no, he.

Speaker 5 1:13:23

Damn, we didn't talk about it, no more. He just started working and writing and I was like, but he knew, you know when, when he came back with something good, I was sure that I'm the same way. I crushed them, yeah, built them right back up, because he came back with something really good. What if he never came back? Well then, he wasn't supposed to be a rapper. I.

Speaker 1 1:13:44

My cousin's a asshole.

Speaker 4 1:13:50

Well, well, speaking of advice, what? What advice would you give to someone or a friend who was struggling to find a circle of supportive people Like the same example?

Speaker 1 1:14:01

okay, he over here we're going to take questions. I know that we said that already.

Speaker 5 1:14:06

I don't know, but I'll answer it like to me. You don't find it, it finds you. Oh so I wouldn't give you no advice. It's the people who gonna support you doing. They gonna gravitate towards you.

Speaker 3 1:14:19

Like don't need to look for gotcha, that would be my first.

Speaker 4 1:14:22

All right, well, I guess. With that say, I guess we kind of beat the topic to the ground.

Speaker 1 1:14:27

Now was officially done. I can't even I'm combing through the questions like what we got in? Yeah, we ain't got nothing. So I guess we gonna talk about you know, limbs like eight inch man against.

Speaker 2 1:14:38

Oh yeah, let's do it oh.

Speaker 4 1:14:43

Yeah, I'm gonna do that and, of course, definitely. I Would definitely love to hear the different takes when it comes to how important your credit score is nowadays.

Speaker 2 1:14:51

So they night sexy nights and good food.

Speaker 4 1:14:57

Yeah, oh, so me again. No, I got you okay.

Speaker 1 1:15:01

So now there's a new dating app, right, and I'm gonna act like I stumbled upon it, but I really didn't, right? So for this episode sponsored by Ryan Cuz Ryan, literally, he's sent over all the show notes for this shit I was like copy and paste is my middle name so.

Speaker 1 1:15:21

Then now is a new, a new dating app, right, so the new dating app isn't so new now because it wants, like after Valentine's Day, right, so you have to have it's cool score. You got to have a 675, you know um credit score to use it. Right, so they run your credit All right. And we, we found some amount of talk about two seconds, right. So the idea for the app was conceived at last year's afro tech. Ironic, right, keep that in mind. Afro tech All right, neon money club was already looking for ways to address credit health and it threw the poor through a party that Saw hundreds of people flood the streets in downtown Austin. So this happened in Texas, for those that don't know, as people lined up barely and his team started to ponder what they could use these party go, what, what they could ask these party goers that would make them feel comfortable talking about finances and, I guess, relationships was. So it was a good tie-in, right, it's a good time now. Let's start a pot a little bit. Okay, let's do it. These are black people, right, that started the shit. Right, the credit score is 675 now. It's not telling you that people of other color can't join at all. It said the, the. It was just created by black people, right, peanut butter and all those other shit, right.

Speaker 1 1:16:56

So I looked up the median for people of our complexion in terms of credit score, which they know, trust me, they know it was like 640. Oh, I saw that because the plot thickens. So then me and my business mind. I was like so let's try to uncover what their business model actually is. Is it the dating app? Well, the services of the dating app that have nothing to do with dating. So what they're doing basically is targeting the people that can't, because, of course, they're playing on your heart strings. They're doing a whole tender thing, but they're like all right, cool, if you don't make it, I can show you for fee how to get your credit up.

Speaker 4 1:17:41

Yeah, I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 1:17:42

Yeah, like that right, they back door dirty it is you see how they back door? That's wicked, it is they ran your credit, which fucked your shit up, because you want to, you know, be humping on something right or somebody with Responsibly it calls right financially responsible people. I'm only having sex with financially Responsible people.

Speaker 6 1:18:06

No, I'm only paying to have sex with. There we go there we go.

Speaker 1 1:18:12

I was like I was like shadow. You see what they trying to do to us. I was like this shit is funny as fuck, because I literally just started to uncover this last night as I copy and pasted. I was like let me go and look at this so I can speak to it, isn't it though? Yes that's right and genius at the same time, though it's wicked. Think about it, cause we already have. We already have, like, all of these credit repair companies and stuff like that, right.

Speaker 6 1:18:38

They're already attacking you. I wanna know who their target demographic is.

Speaker 1 1:18:42

Oh, it says it with this credit score.

Speaker 6 1:18:44

Yeah, besides it, like is it women between the age of blank and blank? Because there is a very vulnerable community somewhere and they're gonna zone in on somebody.

Speaker 5 1:18:55

Well, I mean, he just said the meeting for just yeah, but but she, wants to know the.

Speaker 6 1:19:00

I wanna know the.

Speaker 1 1:19:01

Literally drilled down, even a little bit deeper.

Speaker 6 1:19:03

So when you think about demographic, like my podcast is 35 to 44, right so the age range, everybody listens, but it's particularly 35 to 44, and it's like 60, 40 men, women, okay. So when you think about demographic, so you can't tell me that they don't know who they're looking for when they're selling that, cause they know exactly what age group and they know exactly who they're targeting. I was saying women, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're looking for women who's credit ain't good, who want a rich man with a 670 credit score and she gonna pay to fix her credit so she could date that rich guy. They know exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 1 1:19:42

I'm about to toss my iPad cause I wasn't even thinking about it.

Speaker 6 1:19:45

They know exactly what they're doing. Look at her face.

Speaker 4 1:19:48

She broken on some short like home shit.

Speaker 6 1:19:51

That was that yo, they know exactly what they're doing. Because why I mean you come on pinpoint that, pinpoint that? Who are you selling that to Sugar?

Speaker 3 1:20:02

babies.

Speaker 4 1:20:02

Sugar babies.

Speaker 3 1:20:03

Because think about it the other way.

Speaker 6 1:20:05

A guy is gonna be like why I'm paying you $1,000 to go meet these chicks. I could go meet chicks somewhere else. I could go to brunch Pay less, that's fine.

Speaker 4 1:20:15

Yeah especially if you're ready to go.

Speaker 1 1:20:17

Or you can go to pay less and then go to brunch. Cause pay less? I'm talking about the store, see what I did there.

Speaker 6 1:20:22

But but this, this is. This is they're targeting. They're targeting women who are lonely, who wanna date a guy that has a 670 credit score, a nice car right you need? You need about a 670s 660 to get American Express. So that's who that woman wants and she's willing to pay.

Speaker 4 1:20:45

To get on that level.

Speaker 6 1:20:47

To meet those men Is like the minimum.

Speaker 2 1:20:49

To meet those men. That's just to get in the door. You know 675.

Speaker 6 1:20:52

But that's where you're gonna meet those men.

Speaker 4 1:20:53

675 to get a door?

Speaker 6 1:20:54

Yeah, you gotta have a minimum of 675 or higher to get on that app, so that's where you're gonna meet those men. So if you wanna be a sugar baby and get in a sugar baby club, get your numbers up.

Speaker 4 1:21:03

That's where you gotta go. Damn, she broke her down Like I didn't even think about all that. I was about to just say is it a good idea, a bad idea?

Speaker 3 1:21:10

Stuff like that.

Speaker 1 1:21:12

Why or why not? It's crazy. She hit it with the word like a home. Listen, I threw it at Aliou.

Speaker 5 1:21:17

She took you, she spotted that shit and was like I don't want it right now Cross a couple of people.

Speaker 4 1:21:24

You know what I'm saying. So so, karen, do you think overall? Do you think this is a bad idea, good idea or what?

Speaker 6 1:21:30

I actually think that there's other. This is not the first people that did. Well, they might be the first people with the credit stuff, but they have other ones that they've been doing, made by other companies. Like they have sugar baby apps where, like for men that are looking for women, women looking for men I think this is the first one, maybe for a black company A and maybe for people that gotta raise their credit scores and things like that, using that as a selling point. But this isn't the first one. But this is like sad, like this is kind of foul, but it's going to work. It's going to work.

Speaker 1 1:22:02

Oh, hold on, it is, it's going to work. So what they got? I think that the let me see the exclusionary aspect of the app is no doubt going to rub some people the wrong way, especially when you consider that the average US citizen US citizen credit scores 716, with the black and Hispanic people more likely At 640. Right, exactly, score below 640. Actually, you know, and here we go. This is the important part those denied access to score will be sent resources to improve their financial literacy.

Speaker 6 1:22:38

Right, so it's a hard market, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:22:42

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:22:43

Get the fuck I ain't going for, like the, the, the, the book I thought about when it came to this topic was, like you know, it's just men and women looking for people who are financially responsible, and that that's as far as I got. I thought it was just good. I mean, you know like good. I think that's a part of it.

Speaker 6 1:22:58

Yeah, or it's just black people taking advantage of other black people and saying that they're going to fix them up with people, when really you just trying to fix their credit and make some money. You could have just said that.

Speaker 5 1:23:11

Well, you know the after tech, but yeah, but this is just said you was going to fix my credit for five hundred dollars.

Speaker 6 1:23:19

You may have to play with my heart strings.

Speaker 1 1:23:22

But, but the thing is at the end of the day, though, they were like listen, I got to be different. Out here we all wear in clothes.

Speaker 5 1:23:29

Give me the different clothes, but I mean it's funny that you say that, because I mean, that's what, that's what women are.

Speaker 3 1:23:37

And I'm only saying.

Speaker 5 1:23:37

Women know it's true because that's just what the numbers show. That's a women looking for. So it's like if you could combine them both.

Speaker 6 1:23:44

Not only is that what women are looking for. That's what women are willing to invest in.

Speaker 5 1:23:50

Because we not?

Speaker 6 1:23:51

men don't invest in things like that. They're not willing to pay for stuff like that.

Speaker 5 1:23:55

I'm not paying three dollars for them.

Speaker 4 1:23:56

I think that's what you're going to do. You got well. Let me ask you this, Because you're sure you got it just because you have a good credit, so it doesn't mean you're like this wealthy sugar daddy type dude. You know you could. You could qualify to be on the app and still live, page after page.

Speaker 6 1:24:11

Yeah, but credit just means you make the minimum payment, but 60 percent, 70 percent of women will be willing to take that chance. Yeah, ok, and lose money on it. I would invest in this company because I will make money on it.

Speaker 1 1:24:26

Fitness is still get my twenty dollars every month. I have not seen the inside of a fucking planted fitness in a well over a year.

Speaker 5 1:24:35

So make the style again, motivate you.

Speaker 1 1:24:37

Who Wait what? I didn't even know she's in planted fitness right now.

Speaker 4 1:24:41

She got all the planted fitness. She got the doing the mag to stay in need Mom exercises and stuff.

Speaker 5 1:24:46

I wouldn't go put that on you. No, no, no no no, I just was saying you know may talk in a new voice. No, I ain't rocking with make like that. Me, I ain't rocking with that, you can see she got Tory locked up.

Speaker 4 1:25:00

Ah, he has another topic. Yeah, another topic.

Speaker 1 1:25:02

Yeah, that's a rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 1:25:03

I just want to throw that in going with you. You can have that one by yourself.

Speaker 4 1:25:10

So, overall, the most of y'all just think it's a bad idea for this, the school credit app thing, oh no, no, no, it's an excellent idea.

Speaker 6 1:25:16

It's a good investment.

Speaker 5 1:25:17

It's an excellent idea.

Speaker 6 1:25:18

Like we should all buy stock and then pull out in a year.

Speaker 1 1:25:21

No, I think All right.

Speaker 5 1:25:22

So let me see if I can find somebody taking advantage of you. Don't mean it's not a great idea.

Speaker 6 1:25:26

No, we should take advantage. That's what I'm saying, worse.

Speaker 1 1:25:30

Because, look they, they raise. The company has raised more than 10 million of venture capital corner pitch book, so they've gotten 10 million in capital, actually pushed this forward. And remember, they're just investing in technology, not actually not actual pushing it out. Right, so it's just literally the technology right now. Who knows what they're doing, as you know, as far as marketing is concerned, and how they're going to twist and turn this and whatever, because you know the fine print is right here.

Speaker 6 1:25:59

It won't last long.

Speaker 1 1:26:01

You don't think so?

Speaker 6 1:26:01

No it won't last long but it'll last long enough for us to make some money, but it's not going last long enough for it, because the way technology changes, it's not going to last long, but it will last long enough for them to make money for the stockholders, make money for us to make money for them to maybe, you know, meet a couple people and then get out they're going to make, they're going to make millions.

Speaker 1 1:26:22

But they're not even going to be done. But see, there's a thing, though it's a private company right now they're not, they're not yeah.

Speaker 6 1:26:27

So they'll make their money.

Speaker 4 1:26:29

They'll make it, they smart.

Speaker 6 1:26:30

They get in, they get out.

Speaker 4 1:26:31

Yeah, because in that same source that you're getting, it says like they're just, they're going to be temporarily available, they're going to, they're going to be open for 90 days, for whatever reason. Well, testing.

Speaker 1 1:26:40

You got to test, you got to do. A test run to do the quick ride. Yeah, that too. Yeah, the quick it's giving Ponzi scheme. I don't know, I

Speaker 3 1:26:50

got to meet someone in 90 days.

Speaker 6 1:26:51

I only got 90 days for you to fix my credit and meet someone. Yes, it's the whole company disappear.

Speaker 1 1:26:57

No, no, no, no. So I think that what's going to happen is this they're not taking applications beyond 90 days, so you can't join beyond 90 days so whoever's in that? Pool. That's what they rob it.

Speaker 6 1:27:08

That's still. I don't know if that's good either.

Speaker 1 1:27:10

Yeah.

Speaker 6 1:27:11

Because you don't know what you're getting either. Well, again I could be pee in the pool, I think it is definitely.

Speaker 4 1:27:18

I'm about to say I'm a merry man, but I keep hearing pee in the dating pool and all types of other foreign stuff.

Speaker 5 1:27:24

I mean, that's a mentality thing, but we're not going to go, All right single guy I know what it's saying.

Speaker 1 1:27:30

If you think I'm trying to keep hope alive, I'm out here, floating around.

Speaker 5 1:27:33

Huh, I'm good, good them dating waters, clear water for me.

Speaker 4 1:27:40

Oh, like I got my inner two. I'm not talking about.

Speaker 5 1:27:44

I'm not laughing. Let me look, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 1:27:46

I would love to.

Speaker 2 1:27:46

I'm going to say this, and I know, that's going to fuck some people up.

Speaker 5 1:27:50

but man, look, you're a man. The odds like four or five. The one of your favor, you out here struggling to brush you, is I, is you OK?

Speaker 1 1:28:00

I'm going to take your word for it. Is you? I'm taking word for it.

Speaker 4 1:28:04

Oh, speaking of that, I know you said you had some recent good times.

Speaker 1 1:28:09

That was a perfect segue. I know let's talk about your Valentine's Day shenanigans what?

Valentine's Day Celebrations and Movie Reviews

Speaker 5 1:28:14

was shenanigans, I don't know. Let me get some water on this. Yeah, I want to be all choked up. So Valentine's Day I wasn't going to celebrate it at first.

Speaker 5 1:28:30

Right, I was not going to celebrate it, because when Valentine's Day gives this idea that we together right, so I was, I mean her been kind of going out, we not we're not a couple, but we've been, you know, we've been companions. So I was like you know what, not doing that. But then I thought about it. I said you know what? She took me out for my birthday. She's done a lot of nice things for me. Why should she sit in the house, you know, on Valentine's Day thinking, damn, another year I don't have nobody? I say you know what, you can go out. So I said, can I ask you a question?

Speaker 2 1:29:15

Sure.

Speaker 1 1:29:19

Does she listen to the podcast? She might.

Speaker 5 1:29:23

Don't matter.

Speaker 1 1:29:24

I'm just saying you're making it sound like a pity day right now.

Speaker 5 1:29:27

No, it's no because we know. No, no, no, we had OK, so all right. So this is make it OK.

Speaker 1 1:29:32

Let me clean it up and I'm glad you say that.

Speaker 5 1:29:35

That's why yeah.

Speaker 1 1:29:36

I got.

Speaker 5 1:29:37

I got. I got. She's a very attractive woman, so there's not no pity day. So it was just some somebody's doing something nice for you, like why not be nice for them, like I look at. So here's one of the biggest motivating factors for me, right, what if something happens to that person at that moment, right, and you didn't get a chance to show gratitude Because, like I said, she's done a lot of nice things for me. So it wasn't a pity day. It was just I'm repaying the kind gesture you because she made my birthday special. When was your birthday again? January 26th, ok, so it was a few weeks before Valentine's.

Speaker 1 1:30:16

Day Right right.

Speaker 5 1:30:16

He made my violence. She made my birthday special and then she invited me over for the Super Bowl. She showed you know all the pieces cooked wings right made that enjoyable. So it's like when somebody is doing things to make your life enjoyable, you should do the same for them, whether it's Valentine's Day or not. Like you can't get distracted about oh, it's Valentine's Day. You don't want people to think we already had a conversation.

Speaker 1 1:30:42

Right, so so your brother is 26. 26 January, god Valentine's Day, was 14.

Speaker 5 1:30:47

About three weeks later.

Speaker 1 1:30:49

So you waited three weeks. Is he going to?

Speaker 5 1:30:51

No no.

Speaker 2 1:30:52

I was asking, I'm asking.

Speaker 5 1:30:54

We've got again. Can we give her a name please?

Speaker 1 1:30:56

Because I want to keep calling it like this no, no, no, no no no, we're going to give her a name, let's call us. Oh yeah, whatever, yeah, go ahead, Senty, that's to me so no, no, no no not yeah

Speaker 5 1:31:08

you know what?

Speaker 4 1:31:08

sent it.

Speaker 5 1:31:10

Not sent, not sent the is not sent.

Speaker 1 1:31:12

Cynthia, this is not for you.

Speaker 5 1:31:14

Not no, no, no, we're going to call a roadcaster. How about we just call the joy?

Speaker 4 1:31:19

Do you know?

Speaker 5 1:31:19

that's a good one, right, we call it joy.

Speaker 1 1:31:22

All right. So, joy I'm out here. Abby came to you, by the way, so you know we went out, we had it.

Speaker 5 1:31:28

You know we had one out. We had a good time About our gift. Took her down there right she. She really appreciated she get the steak Inside joke. Inside joke Huh.

Speaker 1 1:31:44

She got steak.

Speaker 5 1:31:45

She did you pay for the state? Holy shit, it was an outback.

Speaker 1 1:31:48

It was where out back. No, this is an outback steak, ain't nothing fuck with. It was good, all right, cuz.

Speaker 5 1:31:53

I just went out back the other day. Okay, but, yeah, but so let's tie this back together with a skirt steak.

Speaker 4 1:31:59

Was it a flat steak? Oh, no, okay.

Speaker 1 1:32:02

I don't even think outback has skirt. Take steaks though.

Speaker 5 1:32:06

No, so let's tie this back together. I want the listeners to be clear.

Speaker 1 1:32:09

Okay.

Speaker 5 1:32:10

Not that I'm cheap. You're not cheating cheap. Oh, I thought you yeah, I don't want to be associated with being cheap.

Speaker 1 1:32:17

No, no, you definitely not. He holds on to his coin.

Speaker 5 1:32:22

Sing one cheap as possible, but let's get back. So, I didn't, so Hold on, I lost my thought the way I hope you okay.

Speaker 5 1:32:35

Steak so the first episode, the first step for the first episode recorded together. They were saying can we go to a steakhouse? And I'm like, absolutely not. And by the way, I heard your episode with the $400 that's a whole nother time but anyway. So For me, I told I was telling them hey, you know we can go somewhere nice, get something to eat, but it's just not gonna be the top of my.

Speaker 1 1:33:00

So she's like out back.

Speaker 5 1:33:04

Yeah, but out by see what now to be fair, mm-hmm, it would have been something nice in the outback. It's just that was last minute. Okay, all right, so something was better.

Speaker 6 1:33:13

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm glad you took her doll, because if I was dating you and it was Valentine's Day and you didn't take me out and I took you out for your birthday, I'd have been mad at you. But see, you used the dating word, but they go out, no, no you did go on a date, but you said you not dating her but they do hang out.

Speaker 5 1:33:31

We are, we have a very, we have a great friendship Can.

Speaker 1 1:33:37

I say that you say whatever you want to say. I just want to be correct and regurgitate in what you say.

Speaker 4 1:33:42

And friends can go on dates. Go ahead lamp.

Speaker 1 1:33:45

Don't listen to Ryan.

Speaker 2 1:33:48

Yeah, that should sounds confusing as I don't want to fuse the lesson.

Speaker 1 1:33:53

I'm dating my friend. Actually, I'm on a date with my friend, but we're not dating.

Speaker 5 1:33:58

You got my focus going on self dates and all this.

Speaker 4 1:34:01

So stop, you, don't call Shadry your best friend she absolutely is all right.

Speaker 1 1:34:05

So friends can date. Well that was I shit. Johnny Cochran, you right, you are 100% right, I don't even, I can't even.

Speaker 5 1:34:20

But that was my Valentine's Day, like I wanted to make sure that, because she showed me a good time on numerous occasions. Yeah, I wanted to make sure she had a good time. Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 4 1:34:31

and you bought the state.

Speaker 1 1:34:32

Yeah, and he bought the state course and out back and he's not cheap, they know and I didn't string that together, because that's what I'm implying, if you, know me, you know I'm not cheap. No, no, absolutely not. Hundred percent not, but it's always nice to poke fun at that, so it's a layup, so, but the question that I have for you, though, is what have you done for her since Valentine's Day?

Speaker 5 1:35:01

We got out, okay, um.

Speaker 1 1:35:05

Any told rubbing going on? No, I'm trying to get to the fucking meat of this bro, oh yeah. I want to get to the good part of the story.

Speaker 5 1:35:12

He was like she's nice to me.

Speaker 1 1:35:13

I was nice to her. There's no good part okay.

Speaker 5 1:35:19

I told you, man, I'm born.

Speaker 1 1:35:20

No, you're not boring, you're just secretive.

Speaker 5 1:35:27

I'm telling you man, this is like. Did you see me?

Speaker 4 1:35:32

You should Netflix and chill with your friend Person and Netflix and chill and watch Mia Copas. Y'all can have a laugh. There you go. Oh, it's a comic book.

Speaker 1 1:35:49

Oh, okay, did you, you didn't see it yeah we're about to have a whole conversation about it in two seconds. Um, you should definitely do that Because you can't get mad at her, because she didn't actually tell you to watch it. We did, so you'd actually have to text while watching it. See, this one right here was like. I saw it already and I don't know if I like it. You should watch it. I'm like, but I don't want to watch it. We're gonna watch it together. I'm like, fuck it there and then anyway.

Speaker 1 1:36:22

I'll save that. I'll save that, but you definitely need to do that. That's what you need to do. Put it on the list. Yeah okay, cool.

Speaker 5 1:36:30

So that's it. Segue Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 1:36:38

Dessert. I hope you guys enjoyed your meal. Can I get you something off of our dessert menu?

Speaker 4 1:36:43

Take it away, ryan so this is a quick, quick minute Well movie review.

Speaker 2 1:36:49

The majority of us in this room has seen the movie Mia Copa.

Speaker 4 1:36:52

For those who aren't familiar with it, this is the latest Tyler Perry creation and the plot of the story is we have Kelly Rowland who plays Mia Spoiler alert Mia Copa. So she plays Mia and she decides to be a defense attorney for Zaire, who's played by the heartthrob of what is my man's name? Um Ah, trivante, trivante Rose. So she is he doing better than me.

Speaker 1 1:37:17

I've seen it like I don't know that yeah.

Speaker 4 1:37:18

Trivante Rose. So Mia Copa is, you know, playing the defense attorney for the Trivante Rose, this character, zaire, and this person is on trial for murdering his girlfriend. So to decide to take the case, and comedy ensues, like I said, like I get, like the first 30 minutes I was, I was on board, I thought it was a pretty solid storyline. Uh, I will. I would love to get takes from the room. I know we could not take this all day. I think the part where it started falling apart for me was Like just a magnitude of how horny you have to be when you could be facing the death penalty and you decide to seduce your different attorney, like that's one. It's like that's. He has a sex addict problem, like and just as the movie keeps going, he has a there's a sex dungeon in the bottom of this guy's apartment.

Speaker 2 1:38:09

That doesn't get talked about a lot.

Speaker 4 1:38:12

And I'm just like, all right, so where the sex dungeon come from, because he's like this is where I go to dance, I'm thinking about it. Just he actually says like she's like where you going? I said don't show your face publicly, you're on trial for murder and you could face the death. Like she's getting all these warning and he's like I'm not going outside, I'm going to dance. And then he goes into a sex club and it's like swinging dicks and all this other stuff everywhere and like even like a guy tried to um shoot a shot at at Mia Copa just off the off the strength, she came through fully dressing her three piece you know power suit and my man balls and all was like hey, you trying to get it in.

Speaker 4 1:38:47

And I was like where is this movie going? And I was, you know, and at one point, like I mean I want to like this because, like I figure, okay, this is supposed to be like a legal, you know thriller, like you know. Like you know, like you know court system, that there was one point, at least for 30 minutes, we ain't talking shit about what's going on in court. Like we don't know like the update about any trial date.

Speaker 2 1:39:10

You got any witnesses?

Speaker 4 1:39:10

and I don't want to hog up all the time, but I think the sex club being attached to the apartment or Like a speak easy into a sex club is crazy to me. And yeah, I I don't want to spoil too much, just in case other people got stuff to say. Should we let? Let's let the guest go go next. Well, I'm sorry, you got a question first.

Speaker 5 1:39:32

Why am I watching this again? Because you gotta watch it. So okay, because I'm I'm just sitting here confused. It's not a comedy, not a comedy. It's supposed to be a drama, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 1:39:43

Yeah, funny as hell this is a court thriller or whatever you want to say it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 1:39:48

yeah, okay, I'm gonna wait for y'all to say y'all Overall the pain in the movie right now.

Speaker 5 1:39:55

Well, I would love to hear well, I don't sound like no shit, I won't I'll, I'll let you hear what I guess got it she already blew my mind with with the the Sherlock Holmes approach, so I want to hear what she thinks about the movie.

Speaker 6 1:40:05

Um, I I'm glad I didn't pay for it. Mm-hmm because I would have been mad. Okay, um, so that was good.

Speaker 4 1:40:18

Okay.

Movie Critique and Discussion

Speaker 6 1:40:19

Um, I watched the whole. Thing. The end of the movie was weird. It felt like almost like it was two separate movies. Like, I felt like in the beginning I was like, oh, this is not so bad, like Like for a telepathy movie.

Speaker 4 1:40:34

Oh, it actually has some substance. I was like you know, sometimes you'll be watching, but you're like this movie ain't about nice, like Seinfeld, I'm just watching it.

Speaker 6 1:40:41

You know, like my brain not really working, so I'm we were watching I was like, oh, this might actually be something where I have an emotion.

Speaker 6 1:40:48

You know, and then it just I was like, okay, maybe it's just Kelly Trying to be like sexy, maybe it's just gonna be one of those movies, but you know, like it's just gonna be like one of those thriller sexy movies. And then I was like, okay, this is awkward. And then and then, and then at the end I was just like Trash, it was just yeah. By the end I was like I yeah, buddy, and I felt like they ran out of money.

Speaker 4 1:41:17

How to just wrap it up.

Speaker 6 1:41:19

And they were like let's wrap, wrap it up, wrap it up. Y'all got about three days to finish this movie, so we gonna have to change your end. They all gonna die.

Speaker 1 1:41:30

Okay, so spoiler alert, because I'm about to, you're gonna watch. So when they found the girlfriend and who wasn't dead, and she was a maid on somebody's- Punta kind of resort.

Speaker 4 1:41:44

Yeah oh my god, yeah so this is how it went basically.

Speaker 1 1:41:49

And they seemed like oh, so you got to do the. Oh, you know? Oh, that's the windex. Ha, that's the phone. Right, she out of here. So that's when I turned the shadow and I was like what the fuck is happening? What's happening, what's happening, because they're in the beginning. I'm like yo. I'm like yo, black love, I love to see it. That's what I'm talking about. We've been missing this. I started going down to Morris chestnut era. I'm like this is where we need to be. We missing this, right. And she's like I'm like yo, why you ain't like this, you're crazy, you're crazy. And she was just like. The next part was, uh, the sex scene, but not the ones that you guys talked about, when he was actually smashing the white chick. Right, oh, tag me in, yeah. And then I'm like Right, right, why?

Speaker 6 1:42:44

they even put that in the movie I hold on.

Speaker 1 1:42:46

Yeah, but there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't have been in the movie, right? So, after that happened we was like, not we, she already had. Now I'm like what the fuck is going on? So she finally gave in. But then I thought the detective dude was kind of weird too, and that's my guy Like he was just weird. Like my god, you, you love her or you don't love her. You giving the illusion that you love it, like what's going on for real. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 1:43:16

It's a very familiar face. His name escapes me the time, but I thought he was obsessed with casualism, yeah yeah, so that happened.

Speaker 1 1:43:23

They kidnapped the chick, I kidnapped, but they bring him back, or whatever. So now the mother's in the kitchen another phone incident. So then it right. So then the kitchen, the mother's, like you know, whatever, whatever. She rolls up behind her and she's like what she do? She, I know she's. Oh, she smacked the phone and then she kneeled on it like she fell and I was like I'm fucking done.

Speaker 4 1:43:45

Yeah, how you break a phone, that easy.

Speaker 1 1:43:47

I'm done. But look, it was like yeah, and then, and then the brother was like stabber. I'm like yo sadu, I can't. Oh, the kick in the back, the kick in the motherfucking back, oh, Look like leonidas and 300.

Speaker 4 1:44:13

Yo, for real.

Speaker 1 1:44:15

She bounced off the fucking truck and shit and got up like she's all like 15 pounds.

Speaker 2 1:44:20

Yeah, I'm supposed to recover from that.

Speaker 4 1:44:22

Yeah and I'm fine. Ain't no black woman gonna let the mother law talks him crazy like it would? Like that mother law was talking to kelly, rolling from the gate.

Speaker 1 1:44:31

From the gate because and I was like yo this shit is crazy, like why she going for that? She must have something more. Because you know I'm trying to connect the pieces. This is like 10 minutes into the movie. Yeah, she must got a sex tape.

Speaker 4 1:44:43

Something like why are you talking to her?

Speaker 1 1:44:45

like I don't know.

Speaker 5 1:44:51

Because I think I figured it out and just and I and I and honestly I thought y'all were my friends. But now I'm starting to question. Right right because what I'm summarizing is All y'all watch this dumbass movie. Y'all lost I don't know 90 minutes of your life, yeah no, no, no was values, values and peaks.

Speaker 1 1:45:13

It was two hours values I lost 120 minutes of your life.

Speaker 5 1:45:17

I didn't right and y'all want me to lose.

Speaker 1 1:45:21

Because then you can join the conversation.

Speaker 5 1:45:24

No, no, no, yeah y'all. Every review was fucking bad for this movie, y'all.

Speaker 3 1:45:35

It's like short.

Speaker 4 1:45:35

NATO man. You just gotta watch it, man.

Speaker 5 1:45:46

If you listening to this podcast, I'm not watching this bullshit. This will not be no Netflix until from me when we pop out in Dallas.

Speaker 1 1:45:55

You can be like yo, that me and cobra.

Speaker 5 1:45:58

We're gonna, we're gonna use the first and then Dallas, and I'll show you, I'll be in a dog then we're gonna make you watching on the ride from from houston to Dallas.

Speaker 1 1:46:09

Yeah, they're gonna put it on.

Speaker 5 1:46:10

Somewhere you have to have me some uber money. Then I had sex, and then I had sex and some paint and it was just like all right.

Speaker 1 1:46:17

Yeah, that was fucking like you. First of all, there's a couple of stop this is.

Speaker 3 1:46:31

You know?

Speaker 1 1:46:32

no, that's a fact. Because when you put in the tub I was like, oh, your man going to extra mile, you know, smash on the painting and wash it up. And then I was like, but certain places you just don't have sex. One With a whole bunch of fucking paint, two on the beach like come on, stop it. It's a little harder to paint a different meaning in that movie. Yeah for sure, 100%.

Speaker 4 1:46:50

Oh man, but but yeah, it's one of those bad movies that's just funny to watch, I suppose. Um, so yeah.

Speaker 5 1:46:58

Appreciate y'all. Thanks yeah um.

Discussion on Diversity in Dune

Speaker 4 1:47:01

On another note, real quick uh to you know, on the same top as upset, um, there is a uh Many series I was getting into on uh, netflix called super sex. It is the uh Biopic uh Rockles of frity. If you're familiar with with his work, you know who he is. Um interesting movie, Uh, it just pretty much goes through his Past and shows you how he became one of the most successful porn stars you know in the country. Um, but something just gonna breeze over that. What I really want to get into and I was one of you know everyone's opinion. Has anyone seen dune? Yeah, you saw doing one and two. Uh, I've seen Wait the new one just came out.

Speaker 4 1:47:43

The new one just came out doing to. It came out like last week, last Friday, really, yeah, no. Part two.

Speaker 1 1:47:49

I seen doing the original original like the original, like 700 years ago. That original Okay, and I seen doing one, doing one was actually fire. I liked it Okay. You know, I thought it was a really good remake. I didn't know that doing two was out. Do you have?

Speaker 4 1:48:03

you seen.

Speaker 1 1:48:05

Yeah, for sure 100%, all right.

Speaker 4 1:48:06

Well, I want, I'm glad you say I won't put any spoilers out there, but I will just go to my quick rant before we get out of here. Oh shit, you know, like, like, once again, action scenes is fire. Simulatography is great, um, storyline is good, uh, and it's you know who's who of A-list actors, as you know, right, my only problem and it is diverse. But with the diversity piece, I don't think it pays people of color in the best light. I feel like. I feel like People of color either look inferior, weak or or naive, necessarily.

Speaker 4 1:48:44

I'll give a quick example, being that, you saw, doing one, right, mm-hmm. So, for those who aren't familiar, doing one is just, you know, to try to speed it up or simplify. It's like a, a serious, darker version of Star Wars. I just put it like that. You know, for those who are familiar with Star Wars, damn, but, um, so, so, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 1:49:05

So an example of what I mean when I say it doesn't pay people in the best, you know, brown people in the best light. You guys in there, she's fire, she's great and everything she does, um, but the, the plot or the setting where this, um, the majority of the movie takes place. It's on this planet that is filled with sand and, because of that, the majority of the people on this planet are black and brown people. Right, and you got this young, what 20 something. You know, 22, 20, barely 21 year old white guy. He comes down and he's literally the chosen one who's going to lead these black and brown people to like better days. You know, um, and, and yeah, once again, um an example of how people are just so weak, or whatever Black, black and brown people you remember, at the tail end of doing one Mm-hmm Like, for some reason, there's this guy. He's like one of.

Speaker 5 1:50:04

They're you about to fuck the whole shit up.

Speaker 4 1:50:06

Yeah, but I was what's bored.

Speaker 5 1:50:08

No, don't spoil it.

Speaker 1 1:50:09

He took us all around the world to talk about savory. To come back, I'm like now, are you ready? Because I'm about to fuck this off for you. Yeah, yeah, so you have to wait to take this for that trick, I'll wait.

Speaker 4 1:50:19

I mean yeah, because then you?

Speaker 1 1:50:21

you had wait time out. Are you even playing in the watching? I will, okay. I will watch you, you gonna watch me in copa 2? You need company, all right, so this is the thing pick your movie you need.

Speaker 5 1:50:34

That's how we're gonna do this. Watch doing one there.

Speaker 4 1:50:36

Watch doing one and get back to me.

Speaker 5 1:50:39

No, no, no, okay, no, you don't wish your vote.

Speaker 4 1:50:44

So I could spoil it with you next time. Doing one, doing, doing. Okay, doing it is so I won't go in much more detail than that. I just feel like it paints black and brown people as inferior. Okay, I will say this out of all the dope ass characters in dune 1 and 2, whenever you decide to see it, you can't name me one bad ass Black or brown character other than zendaya, especially a man of color.

Speaker 1 1:51:12

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:51:12

All right, there you go.

Speaker 3 1:51:14

You got joss brolin kicking ass.

Speaker 4 1:51:15

You got austin butler, who plays a dope ass bad guy in part 2. You got jason mamo in part 2 who's whooping ass? Yeah, Aquaman is in this movie. Whooping ass crazy. But nobody Wait man.

Speaker 5 1:51:28

Is he black or brown? Aquaman? He brown, I think he's white.

Speaker 1 1:51:32

He's white, no.

Speaker 5 1:51:33

Yeah, I think he's white.

Speaker 1 1:51:35

Yeah, something like that. They white right now.

Speaker 5 1:51:37

No, some others are brown.

Speaker 4 1:51:38

Okay, well, okay, I guess you get a pass with jason mamo, but the bulk of the people that my point is there's not.

Speaker 4 1:51:43

No, I know he caught up in some pedophile shit, but yeah, oh but I guess my point is you can't squeeze in like a, like a jeffree right or a sterling k brown Can't be somewhere in the movie, just whooping ass. You know, now I'm saying I wish he could have put like a person of color to To be one of these bad ass. You know characters in the movie, like most of the black people, are not black Basically.

Speaker 4 1:52:08

Crazy yeah or like the ones who are. They're like either servants, they're like servants of some sort.

Speaker 2 1:52:13

Hmm.

Speaker 4 1:52:14

So this movie took us back a little bit. To me, yeah.

Speaker 5 1:52:18

And you want me to watch it.

Speaker 4 1:52:20

That's what I'm saying, at least part one.

Speaker 5 1:52:22

I mean, I was just venting my frustration about it, but you know, okay to be fair, because when I was right ironically when I was riding up here my buddy asked me to watch, I was like. He was like it's a really good movie. Hmm, I was like uh.

Speaker 4 1:52:37

Well, just just just have that little nugget we talked about today, and then let me know what you think. I'ma try not to have that, okay, because?

Speaker 5 1:52:43

that's what's ruining for me.

Speaker 1 1:52:45

Yeah, you should just watch me and copa.

Speaker 4 1:52:47

There you go, watch me and copa, just plain black.

Speaker 5 1:52:54

Shout out the time of the period, but no, no watching that man. Y'all, y'all fucked it up.

Speaker 4 1:53:01

So that's all I got. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you, ryan.

Speaker 1 1:53:04

Yes you the best. Um, appreciate that's. That's I mean, and what's so crazy about it is like I'm not remembering actor's names. I'm like remember the guy with the blue suit, that guy and he did that shit to the other dude, that guy over there, I'm yeah, names. I'm just gonna miss me with that. Anyway, thank you guys for showing up. Um, I want to thank lamp again for brunch, because lamp took care of that, you know. I mean, he made sure the team eight and I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 1:53:31

Appreciate it lamp. I appreciate the work y'all do, because that was crazy. I'm looking. Let's just tell the audience y'all the brains of this stuff. All right, stop playing. I just talked, all right.

Speaker 1 1:53:39

Now you're talking too much. I want to definitely front of bottom my heart. Thank karen for showing up.

Speaker 6 1:53:49

Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for having me. Nice meeting you too. You too, I had a ball. Thanks for having me. I'm not even joking.

Speaker 4 1:53:55

You blew my mind with the, the credit score thing. He's still back with that.

Speaker 2 1:53:59

Yeah, nah, she did because, I thought I was doing something. I thought I was doing something. You know, I had a whole highlighter on here.

Speaker 4 1:54:05

I'm like I'm just gonna highlight these bits and she was like oh no, nigga, you didn't go far enough, karen heard two minutes of the conversation was like nah, here's what's happening. I was like damn.

Speaker 1 1:54:13

But To to let you know how much of a real one she is. I hit her and I'm like yo, this is what we're doing, this is what I like to do, and I like you to be a part of it. She was like tell me when and when. There was no back and forth, there was no. Just tell me when and where you know. I mean, and to be honest with you, I spotted me like the third time and this one actually came in fruition, because we're supposed to do something over the summer too.

Speaker 1 1:54:36

Um, so I'm, I'm, I'm indebted and I'm Definitely appreciate you for showing up anytime you know that was dope, for sure, all right, so from I guess that's uh, from right to left, you know, just tell them where you could, where people could find you.

Speaker 6 1:54:53

Uh caronel on instagram, mostly uh facebook. I am caronel.

Speaker 4 1:55:00

Oh uh, ryan reviews everything on youtube, or you can follow me on instagram.

Speaker 5 1:55:04

Uh, taylor underscore photos dnsy uh, instagram for me conversations underscore with underscore. Lamp facebook conversations of the lamp podcast is on soundcloud at apple podcast.

Speaker 3 1:55:19

And shadra at hiding hills on instagram and flights. Fashion and food.

Speaker 1 1:55:26

You can find me right here. This is where I'm gonna be. I appreciate y'all. It's that time again, and since we really don't know how to say goodbye, I'm not gonna say goodbye, but listen what I will ask. I'm not even asking if you liked it. Please don't forget to like, comment, subscribe and shit. Um, and that's homework Also. There is no. Also, we'll catch you next week. We'll save a seat at the table for you.