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The SDA HOUSING Podcast
Exploring Specialist Disability Accommodation in Australia
The SDA Housing Podcast is a leading voice in Australia’s Specialist Disability Accommodation (SDA) sector, delivering in-depth discussions, expert insights, and the latest updates related to housing solutions for people with disabilities. Through interviews with industry leaders, advocates, and lived-experience voices, we explore policy developments, innovative best practices, and real-world stories shaping the future of disability housing.
Listeners will gain valuable knowledge on emerging trends, sector challenges, and inspiring success stories, making this podcast an essential resource for investors, providers, advocates, and anyone passionate about inclusive housing.
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Debbie Kindness – General Manager, NDIS Property Australia
With over 20 years of expertise in tourism, finance, and property, Debbie has played a pivotal role in transforming NDIS Property Australia from a two-person team to a 22-member powerhouse. Her leadership drives the successful marketing, sales, and development of SDA properties nationwide, working closely with builders, designers, lenders, and support providers to ensure high-quality, compliant housing solutions.
Minh Le – Founder & Director, NDIS Property Australia
A visionary in the SDA space, Minh is dedicated to accelerating the delivery of purpose-built disability housing across Australia. By fostering collaboration among stakeholders, investors, and NDIS participants, he champions choice, control, and dignity for people with disabilities, ensuring they have access to homes that truly meet their needs.
Together, Debbie and Minh are committed to ethical, sustainable, and impactful solutions in the SDA sector, bridging gaps and driving meaningful change.
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Each week, we feature guest speakers from across the sector—sharing their expertise, experiences, and contributions to social impact in SDA. From innovative housing designs to policy advocacy, our conversations highlight how we can collectively improve living options for NDIS participants.
As the SDA landscape evolves, we invite you—our listeners—to join the journey. Whether you're an investor, provider, advocate, or simply passionate about inclusive housing, this podcast equips you with the knowledge to make a difference in the lives of People with Disabilities (PWDs).
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EPISODE 301 - Cocoon SDA Care
This episode was recorded on 19.05.25. Since this date, more articles have been written and published by various newspapers, leading to the permanent banning of Cocoon’s parent company Horizon SolSolutions, aswell as its ‘nominated’ Director, by the Commission. There will be a follow up of this episode to discuss the fallout across the NDIS from this scandal which has been played out in plain sight for many years in front of everyone.
Our research reveals the staggering exposure of Cocoon's web within the NDIS: the NDIS paid (last 4 years alone) to Cocoon over $200,000,000, amounting to about roughly $50M per year over the last four years (plus more from prior years). On top of that, Cocoon’s associated company made property sales - specifically the Cocoon "House Packages" sold to investors - netted approximately $50,000 plus in profis per sale (from a $100,000 gross profit). With roughly 300 sales, this equated to $15,000,000 plus in profits pocketed by Cocoon’s co-founder, Mr. Zaffar Khan, not to mention his earnings from other land development deals. On top of this, they were also selling $550,000 Cocoon franchises to overseas investors, with guarantees of $80,000 - $130,000 pa for the franchisees (which were never paid).
As recently as April 2025, Khan and his wife were reportedly shopping around to purchase $13 million worth of land in Brisbane. He offloaded a $16.5M land site last year too! ASIC & NDIA & ATO should investigate businesses and assets held under Zaffar Khan’s family members to potentially seize such assets as "proceeds of crime" & repay investors & participants - if proven that he defrauded the NDIS or investors.
Horizon traded as: Cocoon Franchise, Cocoon Lifetime Care, Cocoon SDA Accommodation, & Cocoon SDA Homes.
Cocoon as of 29.05.25 has now been placed into liquidation, and all financial affairs are to be directed to Deloitte, the Liquidators.
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