Episode 77 - Jeff Schoep

Jeff Schoep, a former leader of the National Socialist Movement, returns to Curiosity Invited to speak about his latest work and tireless effort to dismantle to seeds of extremism and undo the harm of his past. Jeff shares his experiences of being involved in hate groups for 27 years, the process of leaving that life behind, and the work he does now to help others escape similar paths. 

He emphasizes the importance of education in preventing radicalization and discusses the challenges faced by individuals trying to leave extremist groups. Jeff's story is one of transformation, highlighting the potential for change and the power of understanding and compassion in addressing hate. David and Jeff explore the complexities of youth engagement with social media, the impact of political polarization on society, and the dangers of dehumanizing rhetoric in political discourse. They discuss the importance of fostering understanding and dialogue, especially in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and reflect on the journey from hate to understanding, emphasizing the need for empathy and human connection in a divided world.

Who is Jeff Schoep?From leading America’s largest neo-Nazi group to becoming a beacon of hope, Jeff Schoep’s journey is a seismic shift that ignites conversations and reshapes lives. His voice, once a weapon of hate, now resounds with redemption, echoing in powerful keynote talks, workshops, and encounters that leave indelible marks.

For two decades, darkness consumed Jeff Schoep as he steered the National Socialist Movement. Yet beneath the shadows, a spark of doubt flickered, ignited by the unexpected kindness of a Black musician and the unwavering compassion of a Muslim filmmaker. Today, Jeff wields empathy and understanding, peeling back the layers of extremism he once championed. His firsthand journey exposes the nefarious underworld of hate, offering a chilling yet crucial glimpse into the extremist mindset.