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Reset, Don’t Retreat

The Heavyweight Podcast Season 2 Episode 229

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What if quitting isn’t failure—but focus? We talk about leaving lopsided friendships, walking away from burnout, and how to quit without losing yourself. Hustle culture is loud, but peace is louder. 

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SPEAKER_05:

Oh, that was you pulling your headphones.

SPEAKER_03:

That's like nigga. What the fuck? Cover your leg, huh? You liked that shit, didn't you? No. You liked that, didn't you? No, I did not.

SPEAKER_04:

How about you stop? No, Diddy. How about you stop?

SPEAKER_01:

That was my favorite part in Dave Chappelle where he was like, I realized that might have been my big chance to flip cast. Right. And I think that was my favorite part, but no, that shit was funny.

SPEAKER_03:

I was at Diddy's house. I walked through great traction. It was good. That shit with the Falcon and fucking Stevie was hilarious. I was dying. I didn't know he had a dick. Turns out you can kill the transgender in the US there's a mis meaning. So stupid. It was really good. Oh man. You guys good? You guys ready? No, I think you should go to Saudi Arabia and tell pussy jokes because they got all that pussy they can't talk about.

SPEAKER_05:

It's different than you think. It's different than you think. Been in Muslim countries. And when the sun goes down, those garbs come off. I'll tell you that. So, Abu Dhabi, here I come. Alright, you ready? Everybody ready? All right, let's jump in. Hello, everybody. Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's uh episode 229 of the heavyweight podcast. This is the collective here.

SPEAKER_02:

Abu Dhabi.

SPEAKER_05:

Abu Dhabi. I'm gonna do something a little different. This is for this is my homie Stutter, right here. This is for him. I'm gonna start off this episode with a wishbone quote. Oh, does he have any quotes other than I've been smoking weed for a very long time, so why should I change? Recently, I quit smoking weed. So I'm very proud of myself for that. So this episode is uh collapse.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I'm low enough to it.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh so my question is uh since you are we selling the rest of the weed you have here?

SPEAKER_00:

Because I know there's somewhere.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh no, uh uh there's some dry ass weed in there, so it's for free.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you smoke it all before you? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Yeah, I smoked all my cigarettes. I gave my black and miles away, all that shit. I'm I'm through. I'm thrilled through it. Some nigga shit. Done done. What, black and miles?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, black and miles are crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah. I was smoking them like they was goddamn a pack of cigarettes. That was a problem.

SPEAKER_02:

I see a Sora video out of that. The wishbone quote? No, the smoking everything the whole process.

SPEAKER_05:

Giving them like quitting and giving away.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, if you saw my Sora account, you'd be like, Kevin, put these out. I had a whole lot, too many. Sora? Sora's AI. AI. It makes you makes, you know, you can rap and shit. Like, I act like I know how to rap on there. But anyway, this uh what is this episode 229? Nigga, you said 229, I did say it. Uh this is collective. I'm Kevin Wendell. I will be Kevin Wendell. I won't be the captain, uh, gap lift captain, whatever it is, gap tooth, chap lip. So uh y'all introduce yourselves on this episode.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm Sharron.

SPEAKER_05:

That's just how you go. I'm just Sharon.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm Sharon. That's my name.

SPEAKER_03:

That's just that's her name. That's her name.

SPEAKER_01:

That's my name. Don't wear it out. Y'all remember that?

SPEAKER_03:

My name is Sharon. I'm gonna call her.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm gonna call her Sharon, goddammit.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm Sharron and I'm a cancer. Like, you gotta do it like that.

SPEAKER_00:

So funny. Did you know I was a cancer?

SPEAKER_03:

Nope.

SPEAKER_00:

That's so crazy. Are you really? I'm a cancer. Why do you do that?

SPEAKER_03:

I really don't care. It's it's it's your boy Molly.

SPEAKER_00:

He means that too. I got excited.

SPEAKER_02:

What was that? Loctavia Siegfried.

SPEAKER_00:

Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02:

That's the that's the Siegfried? Yeah. Like the nigga who got a joke by the tiger? No, yeah. I shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_00:

That's fire, nigga. Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_05:

I do like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Y'all be having all types of shit that just go way over my head. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_05:

You don't know Siegfried and Roy from Las Vegas?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I figured you did. This nigga. So this episode, we're gonna be talking about quitting shit. And that could be good or bad. We'll go out to find out. Relationships. Relationships, quitting uh something that's detrimental, or you know, sometimes you quit some shit that you into and you like, nigga, I just fuck this. I ain't no quitting. Well, we're about to find the fuck out, ain't we? I will start with myself, because uh I'm starting with uh what's the hardest thing you've ever had to quit? And you would think I was gonna say cigarettes and weed, but to be honest, it's been like some relationships, friendships-wise. And I've had to cut some shit off before where it's like, nigga, this is not good for me, my mental health, or you. So I've had some really people, close people that I thought were like family to me that I just had to walk away from. Or have had walk away from me because I was being the motherfucking asshole. And that's a that's a harder pill to swallow when you have somebody quit on you and you go, damn, that was me. So I think the hardest thing that I've ever had to quit was like one of my closest friends, and it was because of me. And it was harder because I had to realize it was because of me. And that hurt me to my soul, and it actually changed me for the better to be a better person in my life. So, what are some of the hardest things that you guys, what's the hardest thing you guys think you've ever had to quit? Don't speak at once. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I mean, I'll you know, I had to I had to choose between pork and white woman, so no, you didn't.

SPEAKER_02:

Lord, no, you didn't.

SPEAKER_05:

That's the biggest line on planet earth. Nigga, every time you come here, you eat bacon.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So I chose the pork. That didn't seem like a hard sense.

SPEAKER_05:

And you had the same black woman since 86, nigga.

SPEAKER_02:

Like So I chose the pork, nigga.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, that was my yes.

SPEAKER_02:

It's been uh eating pork. That was the hardest thing to walk away from is eating bad shit and being on a diet. Like the sweets and shit or the sweets, fucking fried foods, all that.

SPEAKER_03:

That was honestly, fried food wasn't that hard. You know, mac and cheese. I don't count on french fries.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah, you love mac and cheese, nigga. I had to walk away from that shit. I remember he tried to tempt you with mac and cheese. Like, hey, guess what we're making?

SPEAKER_03:

Hey, you made they make pre uh protein noodles.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they do.

SPEAKER_05:

Are they good though?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_03:

They are. Mac and cheese is about the rule. It ain't really about the noodle. That's not true. You get a good rule.

SPEAKER_01:

Amen. I just I don't want to do this to you, but I just I just made mac and cheese like last week.

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Sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

It was at this moment, Keith. He fucked up.

SPEAKER_00:

My mac and cheese is fire. I'm sorry. I know it is literally a one-of-a-s.

SPEAKER_03:

Every time somebody says I hate to do this, they could they could have said some fucked up shit.

SPEAKER_00:

Which means they don't do you, but you're about every time.

SPEAKER_03:

You know, I hate to say this, but uh I got some MAC and cheese in the car. It was at this moment he knew he fucked up. Um, I think uh my honest answer, Kevin, probably similar to yours. I I had I had to give up on people and friendships I thought would be around forever. And I realized this one for me. Um and and even family. Like I just had to, I just I learned like the older I get, the more I learn. I just I have to I will cut a nigga off real quick for my piece. You know, and uh damn. I wouldn't even uh thought it was me for a second.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03:

And even if it's a situation where I feel like uh, you know, there's been uh mutual wrongdoing on both sides, you know, I'll say my apologies, I'll say my, you know, I'll uh we'll dap it up, but I'll still walk away. Like, yeah, I'll I'll leave there knowing that I I I put my best foot forward, but I know that going forward I can't have this happen again. Yeah. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I think another, well, what came to mind for me was people pleasing. Maybe that falls in line with that.

SPEAKER_05:

Sort of, I guess.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, not so much because it can people please people you don't even give a fuck about. I think she's capering because she still ain't brought no food up here. That's people pleasing because she ain't trying to people please.

SPEAKER_00:

A lot of people pleasing.

SPEAKER_02:

Um that's gonna keep going off.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like what happened?

SPEAKER_02:

That's a lot of a lot of good.

SPEAKER_00:

She's like y'all just over here dropping shit. What is this is?

SPEAKER_05:

Never mind. Let's do it. I won't say that. I was about to get us canceled. My bad.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh no, people pleasing, because I think I was raised to people please. And I won't go too deep, but um yeah, that was like my example was people pleasing. And then I realized as an adult how much that has not been beneficial in my life, and so people take advantage if people take advantage, and I don't genuinely like the people that I was trying to please. I mean, just being honest, it's like it's it's part of self-reflection, it's part of a lot of different things, but like, why are my people pleasing just because? Like in a normal setting, there's there's kind and there's nice, right? Yeah, I'm a kind person, but when you transfer over into being nice, you're people pleasing a lot of the time. And I don't have to do that. I can sit in silence with someone and not please you. Um, and so yeah, that and I used to think different. I used to think that that's what you needed to do. I did used to think that in normal settings, and granted, my normal demeanor is fun, is I guess you could say, um, but I'm not in an attempt for you to like me. That's what I was saying. Gotcha. Whereas you might example growing up, exactly. I I don't walk in an impressive way. Now, don't get me wrong, I impress motherfuckers all the time.

SPEAKER_06:

Don't get it twisted.

SPEAKER_03:

Clock it. I was gonna say the same shit, I said that is a thing. That is that is a growth thing. Don't get it wrong, motherfuckers see me.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, you see me when you see, but I'm not living in a way, I'm not performative, is what I'll say. So I'm not living in a way to intentionally impress anyone.

SPEAKER_05:

And I think that that falls under I was actually that was actually part of my last session because I was talking about what kind of session are we talking about here? Like uh how I'm there's certain people I'm just like like fuck them. I don't want to fuck with them. Like, and I don't really like but it's like the way I am is like I'm not mean. So like my therapist was like, Kevin, you're not a you're not a mean person. Like you can't help that. You're just nice. That doesn't mean you have to like not have boundaries. You can still be nice to somebody that you don't really fuck with, but like to a point. Yeah. So it's like I'm still nice to these motherfuckers, but I'm like, nigga, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00:

Preach, okay?

SPEAKER_01:

Cause for real.

SPEAKER_05:

No, that's it happening.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I'm fucking with you, it's cool. No, yeah. But shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05:

This nigga at work tried to do that shit the other day, and he was like saying something, and then I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Yeah, you got it. And then he was like, oh no, no, I didn't mean it like that. I'm like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, we're already at this point. Like, so fuck you, nigga. There will be no RTS today. This this episode's gonna be called gunshots.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Empty the whole clip.

SPEAKER_05:

How do you spell that, actually? Oh, wait, can we go back to ratata? You remember that?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh shit. Anywho, like, let's get back to this. Now, this one's fun. When is it acceptable to quit something that you actually love and enjoy?

SPEAKER_01:

When it's causing you harm.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, staying alive. What if it's not causing you harm though? What if it's something that you like love and it's not causing you harm? Like, you just you gotta give some examples, nigga. Like a nigga? I ain't never been able to know that one.

SPEAKER_03:

There she goes. I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I guess a good one.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, hold on, Kevin.

SPEAKER_00:

These niggas you talking about like a nigger, right?

SPEAKER_03:

I wanna say I was I was saying let her cook, Kevin. She ain't she gonna get in her bag. She gotta listen, nigga. She died though. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh I guess a good example. It's not the greatest. But I quit football. I love football. But nigga, I'm not a football player. I got 40-year-old knees, nigga.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, yeah, I don't mean now, nigga. Like oh, you mean back then? Oh, damn. I hope you ain't playing football right now. Oh no. I saw you skate. It's bad. It was bad. I was spent a lot of time on the ground. Even comedy, like right now, I'm not necessarily doing that shit. I got so much shit that I'm trying to like advance forward in. Like, maybe I'll get back to it. But like, I have a point that I'm trying to get to in my life. You get what I mean? Like, I love comedy with all my heart. I wish I was out there every goddamn night doing comedy. But right now is not the time to do that. It's now elevate, get to where the fuck I gotta go, then I'll get to where I gotta get to. Maybe I could get back to it. If I don't, then I don't, at least I had a fucking good ass run at it. You know what I mean? So it's like one of those things. It's a good example. I basically had to quit doing that to get to this, because I can't, I can't be going to work and then being out in the motherfucking streets trying to be hanging out with these niggas, telling jokes and building a rapport and all that shit and networking and all that shit, and still elevate to where I want to go in my other half of life. You know what I mean? So that's one thing I had to step away from.

SPEAKER_03:

I think my my answer would be uh I had to step away from uh complacency. I used to be like the love to just kind of go up the flow, let life come to you. Now it's like, at the age I'm at now, it's like I have everything has to be with intention.

SPEAKER_06:

We gotta be moving towards something.

SPEAKER_03:

Like it got to be a goal. It's it's it's we we too late to be figuring uh figuring shit out on the fly. Now it's like we gotta have steps. Like we can now we can we can adjust the course if we see that we we're taking the wrong path. But that path need to be, the motion need to be some force behind it. It's an intention. Like we this is I'm doing this to get here. And when I get here, I know that after here, we're heading here type shit. I think that's so that's where that that'd be that's kind of where I thought about.

SPEAKER_02:

So when you uh had this realization about football not being your thing, what what what was the oh you know when was it?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, oh when I got the pass, nigga. Okay I just smacked shit. They said do some push-ups, go hit that nigga, and I was like, that's not my thing.

SPEAKER_03:

It's not like that's not my thing. It sounded like you uh did an Oklahoma drill and like, yeah, this ain't for me. Yeah, I started throwing up and I was like, nah.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah, they said I better off watching.

SPEAKER_05:

We can do flag football because it's it's just my weight.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. They said the Oklahoma drill turned a lot of football players into basketball players.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, when nigga hit me hard as fuck, I was like, eh.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, what the fuck is this? That's my conclusion. I said, I'm not getting hit like this. Fuck that. Um this is not for me. I guess.

SPEAKER_05:

I remember it's a big ass white boy. I just run it. Bow. I was like, oh shit, nope. Never again. Let's do baseball.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Nigga, it was freshman year. I was uh I literally had broken away and I was running down the sideline. And I and I slowed up talking shit. I literally, out of nowhere, nigga, the coach caught me and hit me so fucking hard. Never did that shit again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Mine was when the coach said, if we don't hear the pads on this next hit, y'all motherfuckers is running the rest of practice. Then I got the ball and I was like, oh shit. Blau. And I was like, oh, you heard the pads? Done. Didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01:

I think my answer would be saying yes, maybe. Not maybe. I'm a double down.

SPEAKER_03:

Saying yes to what?

SPEAKER_01:

Anything. I used to say yes. Well, things that are because, like we said, things that don't cause you harm, right? So, you know, oh hey, inviting me somewhere on a Tuesday night. I would say yes. Yeah, right. And then I just got to a point in my life where, like, oh, sleep is really like closely linked to health in all ways. So I'm gonna start prioritizing my sleep. And yeah, I'm not gonna make it tonight. So yeah, that that's something that I feel like I don't say yes as often. Maybe that goes back to my previous answer, people pleasing, but I I could say yes to things that I genuinely did want to do, but now I'm kind of like I'm more reserved in terms of where I give my yeses. It's kind of like, eh, I could go without that.

SPEAKER_03:

I think if I would back me up with this, back piggyback off what you said. I don't I don't jeopardize my gym schedule. Yeah, yeah, like it literally has the only reason like my wife has to be sick, or my I have to be somewhere for my child. That's the only reason why I'm missing the gym. Other than that, nigga, you got to catch me after I leave.

SPEAKER_02:

I think you just you just find a different time to go.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel like that about I'll be at the goddamn gym at two in the morning. Got it done. Tired as shit. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

You niggas is dedicated.

SPEAKER_02:

I do respect that. When Lark was born, I was I would let leave the hospital and be at there at two or three in the morning.

SPEAKER_05:

So you the niggas on vacation in the gym. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the hotel. In the holiday end.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, no, no, no, nigga. I no, I get a day pass somewhere. I need to do it. No, I need to gym, I'll work out. Hotel Jamaica, what I need.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, you ain't staying at the right hotels, nigga. I got three people. I'll stay within the budget. We're close enough to the ARP card. Like, I'll teach you some shit.

SPEAKER_00:

Dollar down.

SPEAKER_05:

Some discounts.

SPEAKER_00:

You got Ukraine your beard. They ain't gonna ask the question.

SPEAKER_05:

They don't.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm mad about that shit.

SPEAKER_01:

I went somewhere.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm not gonna get triggered. I'm not gonna get triggered.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm gonna I'm gonna lie about my age. Where like when I get closer to that age, I'm for sure gonna lie. Because I'm a black woman. How the fuck are you gonna tell me I ain't 70?

SPEAKER_03:

Bro, I'm I'm a real smart rep, nigga. Smart. That's the be honest, McFly.

SPEAKER_00:

They know how we live.

SPEAKER_03:

The senior meal meals are the right portion size for the diet.

SPEAKER_00:

Period. So you can get that.

SPEAKER_03:

Senior preference. It is a win win.

SPEAKER_02:

Just go to the gym or find the security guard at work, and I'm gonna just have him tag along and say he calls me OG.

SPEAKER_06:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Man, we're gonna call OG in the wild. Fucking M16.

SPEAKER_05:

You ain't called OG in the Wild yet? I don't think that. You been called OG in a wild? Oh, I've been called OG in a while. And I was like, I guess I'm there.

SPEAKER_03:

Nigga, I could call OG every day. Not even um.

SPEAKER_05:

Just like, hey, what's up, OG? No, we got you OG. And I was like, nigga, like, hey, I'm 41.

SPEAKER_01:

That's an OG though. Is it? There okay, look, this is what I'll say. Y'all gotta think of it. Let's say y'all was gang members.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, you're talking black terms.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm talking hood shit.

SPEAKER_05:

Niggas 23 and you at your midlife crisis.

SPEAKER_01:

You gotta think the little niggas from a hood is like 16, 17 years old.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't plan on making it too long. That's where the term from, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm telling you, there's there's a young there's a young nigga at the gym. The nigga he about 22. Yeah, he'd be like, What's up, OG? I'm like, what's up, young man?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, I do do the young man. I guess I am. Come here. Let me holla at you, man. What you doing out here?

SPEAKER_00:

I like the young man.

SPEAKER_05:

You turn to the nigga from the commercials? Yeah, I'm that nigga. I guess I am OG, huh? Hey nigga, what you doing? Hey, nigga, you come down the page. It's gonna fuck your whole life up. Hey, call me. Hey.

SPEAKER_03:

Call me Unk, nigga. I don't give a fuck. I'm not unknown. I'm hungry. You gotta own it.

SPEAKER_01:

You gotta own it. I feel like I get, I I people think that I look younger than what I am, but then when I talk to them, they think I'm older than what I am. 37. We know. But I don't wanna be when I get to be like 40, I'm gonna act like I'm 50. And then people could be like, you look good for 50. You just gonna tell them you're 50?

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_05:

That's funny. So this year, I'm not letting shit slide with people. I'm not letting motherfuckers walk with you. Why do you do the black girl slap?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm not letting people the black girl clap. He does.

SPEAKER_05:

Motherfuckers need to know. I'm not letting people shit slide. That's how passionate I am about this shit.

SPEAKER_00:

Period.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what I'm giving up for 2026. I'm stopping letting people lie to me, tell me bullshit, and then think that I'ma just accept it. Like, that's the shit that I plan on giving up. Because I've let a lot of people just tell me some shit and I just accept it. And we both know it's bullshit. So, like, that shit's over. That's what I'm giving up. Do you guys have something that you plan on giving up, quitting, or whatever you want to call it for this upcoming up year?

SPEAKER_03:

Giving up? Yeah, nigga.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm aligned with you on that as far as the bullshit, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Like I said last week, man, I'm I'm giving up. Uh, I'm not, we're not doing the pity parties no more. It's about having motion, nigga. If you ain't got no motion, nigga, we only thing we talk about is how how can we create the motion? Fuck all that so-and-so against me bullshit.

SPEAKER_02:

The random thing I'll say you just triggered a memory. Uh, there was a coworker of ours that when I was losing weight, he was like, Yeah, we're about the same weight now. And I looked at him.

SPEAKER_03:

That motherfucker's lying.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. He probably gonna gain weight too. He looked at, he was like, Yeah, we're about the I'm 6'4, we're about the same height and weight. And I looked at him and he looked, I could tell he was lying. He knew he was lying.

SPEAKER_01:

But I was like, People lie to themselves.

SPEAKER_02:

He's trying to make themselves look the same. Yeah, like we're about the same way. I said, nigga.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we're not.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I wanted to cut, like, put him on black. I just I just I'll let you rock with it for now, but no, no more. I feel you, Kevin. No more.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm also giving up comparison, man. Please that's it. Because you gotta I I finally understand that everybody, we while we might be on the same journey, we all are different checkpoints. So I can't I can't compare my my checkpoint to yours because I don't know, I can't tell what checkpoint you at.

SPEAKER_01:

And our own our journeys are only the same because we are all going to die. Our journeys are not the same.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm gonna live forever, nigga. I'm they're gonna put me in the computer.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm gonna be an android. What was happening? I'm gonna finally be an android. You gonna be Walt Disney?

SPEAKER_05:

Just like Futurama, like a head in the jar.

SPEAKER_01:

Now walk Disney. Y'all are stupid. That was funny.

SPEAKER_05:

Could you imagine yourself as the chat GPT? Yes, I could. I can't. Hell no. That nigga gonna be mean as fuck.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah. What the fuck you doing? Nigga putting promise, nigga, really, really, nigga. This is what we're doing? Don't wear that. Um you want to know where to find the big boy Latinas at.

SPEAKER_00:

That's comedy.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't even know what the question was.

SPEAKER_03:

What are you giving up? What are you giving up in 2026? What are you not tolerating no more?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, tolerate, okay. Well, I don't know. I I think I kind of started already last year. Um, but I'm giving up like last time do you check? The whole the hustle culture of things.

SPEAKER_03:

Like you ain't trying to hustle?

SPEAKER_01:

No. I think that I can uh live my life with ease, and what's meant for me is meant for me.

SPEAKER_03:

I think hustle's one of those words that people overuse. I do. I think a lot of people say they hustle, they're not hustling, they they just doing regular shit. Well, no, I mean life. Like, nigga, you're not you're you go into a regular nine to five, you're not hustling.

SPEAKER_01:

There's different levels.

SPEAKER_03:

You're working 40 hours a week like everybody else. You're just living, you're not hustling. I agree. Hustling is you working at 40 hours a week and then and then clocking in somewhere else or doing spending another eight hours doing something else the other day. I mean that's hustling.

SPEAKER_01:

In that sense, then you know, I know I'm a mom after I get off of work.

SPEAKER_03:

So I'm a husband all day every day.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but what does that mean?

SPEAKER_03:

I tell my daughter to you.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03:

I tell my daughter's time, I said, I said, daddy's always always working. I said I'm either I either got my work uniform on or I'm a husband or I'm a father. I never clock out.

SPEAKER_01:

But I always got a job for adulting then, right? Because I never clock out.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't get paid for one of those. Because well I get paid in memories and all that shit, but it ain't gonna put the fucking lights on. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, so what I mean when I say hustle culture.

SPEAKER_03:

I post sugar free constantly.

SPEAKER_05:

I I mean like Don't you don't want to know what song popped in money.

SPEAKER_01:

But like, is there is it isn't it any sugar free song?

SPEAKER_03:

I s I nigga, I I say when that bill, when that when that rent in that card note comes, what's love gonna do? Okay. That's what I call all the time. I said, look at love ain't gonna pay, keep these lights on. Okay, yeah, okay. Like I was saying, call Edison and tell me you in love. See if they give a fuck.

SPEAKER_05:

I was thinking about punching the little nigga in the chest.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't even know what I was saying. Oh my bad.

SPEAKER_01:

Go ahead. Uh no, I think what I'm what I'm saying is like that whole like I sleep when I'm dead type shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, hell no, I'm sleeping, nigga.

SPEAKER_01:

Like that hustle. Like, I don't I feel like I've done well for myself in life thus far. And you know, I I don't think that, like you said, people do overuse the word hustle. I think that my day-to-day life could be considered a hustle because I don't really get to turn off a lot, right? My hats are worn every moment, every moment of the day. Um, but I just take more time for ease also in my life. So that's that's something that I don't want, I don't intend to just because my life has so many dynamics, I don't have to be consumed by them all the time.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, that sleep when I'm dead shit is uh it's some bullshit. It's wrong. Yeah, because it's like nigga, you need some leisure.

SPEAKER_01:

You need some, yeah, you need some leisure, you need some rest. We need rest. We don't even need leisure, like we need fucking.

SPEAKER_05:

We need some leisure too.

SPEAKER_01:

Leisure is fun, right? We do. Well, I'm saying you're right. We do need leisure too, but I'm saying rest is very important.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, nigga, go to sleep. McFy what you're pondering down there. I said, I don't seek, don't seek leisure on uh gaming online. I learned my lesson. They're gonna troll and you're gonna be like, man, fuck these kids.

SPEAKER_05:

Where did he learn to say nigger so well? Yeah, he's fucking dad.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, huh? I said I made that mistake. I said, let me turn this shit back off.

SPEAKER_03:

You playing sports games, though.

SPEAKER_02:

You gotta learn. Sports and uh and Call of Duty.

SPEAKER_03:

It don't matter, it don't matter what you're playing, nigga. They're gonna say it.

SPEAKER_02:

They're gonna yeah, they're gonna troll and then they're gonna call you that shit.

SPEAKER_03:

They're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Fuck that shit.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that don't sound fun at all. Now, how do you view people who like give up on their goals?

SPEAKER_03:

I understand life happens, nigga. Sometimes niggas get people get hand ills they can't come back from. Sometimes some people don't know how to bounce back. That's why you gotta give people their flowers that bounce back.

SPEAKER_01:

Amen.

SPEAKER_03:

Sometimes motherfucking some and it'd be sometimes people, it'd be the little shit. You know, like sometimes always you never know what people are going through. You so you could you could have a person that's going through so much shit and they and they maintain it and they they look normal, everything looks fine. And then the smallest thing be that little fucking feather on top from the whole mountain. From the whole mountain.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And then and in hindsight, they be like, fuck, I can't recover from this. I don't know. It it gets to the point where they got so many pieces to pick up, they don't even know where to start. So a lot of people won't won't even start picking picking pieces up.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that that question's actually a lot for me. Because I feel like I like, I don't feel like I gave up on that shit with comedy, but it's like I know what I possess in that.

SPEAKER_03:

I think when it comes to you, you just understand that you you're a father now with responsibilities, nigga. Shit changed, bro. Yeah. Shit changed. You was having fun, just fucking. And then they was like, God damn, now I gotta take care of this little motherfucker. I was just trying to say, see what your mama was talking about. And now here I am, give out, you know. I think that as as as parents, especially as good parents, man, you you you you put some of your dreams on the shelf for your kids, man.

SPEAKER_05:

That's just life. It's just a weird dynamic when you go out and do it and like you talk to people, they're like, man, you like good at this. Like you should like be on this. And it's like, I know, but that's yeah, bigger, these lights and this morning.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly, nigga. That that the one thing I always say, the priorities when for me, I'll speak for me, that priorities shifted drastically when my child was born. Like, it wasn't it's not about me. Yeah, excuse me. Yeah, I want to be happy, I want to have things, I want to do all the things I love, but my my main focus is to keep a smile on that little girl's face, you know, and and and to raise her to be a decent human being, which seems to be the hardest fucking part. Because if she keeps smiling, she thinks she's supposed to smile all the time. The discipline part is the part, but I think the the the shift in priorities, you're gonna you're gonna put part of yourself on the back corner for the better, for what you perceive to be the better good.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Now you got some people that have kids that don't give a fuck. Like, hey, hey, if I make it, I'll come back and get you.

SPEAKER_02:

I I run into those people frequently, and they'll have the nerve to say, hey man, we need to get in, lock in on this music shit. Shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, nigga, I, you know, I I got I got I gotta take responsibility. I got responsibility, you know. I got, you know, shit. These bills, like you said, these bills ain't cheap, and I'm telling you, goddamn uh these sports ain't cheap either. You know? So now honestly, my dream now is just is part of my dream now is watching my child live out her dream. Because I've I've gotten to the age and in the place to where I'm perfectly fine being a spectator in her life.

SPEAKER_05:

That's cool. I like that. I like that's where I'm at. Yeah. Cause I think uh the way I view it sometimes is a lot of times case by case, because it depends on like why you gave up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

For me. Cause I'm like, sometimes I see niggas give up because it gets hard. And I'm like, oh, you ain't never gonna do nothing. Yeah, because everything in life is hard. Like, that's just life. Like, that's just how it works. Now, if it's like you giving up because, all right, so this I'm doing well, but like the other part of my life, like my mental health of this shit is fucked up. And you stop there, it's like, that's cool, that's smart, you doing something for yourself. But if it's like you just scared of this shit or scared of the work, like that's for hard for me to respect that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But I agree.

SPEAKER_05:

Like it's like for me, it's all case by case, but it's like because like for me, like when my perceived giving up is more based on a different part of my life trying to like advance in a different way. And like, I honestly don't feel like I gave up because I feel like the way I maneuver and the how like my funny comes from it's like this is gonna sound fucked up. I feel like it's a God-given thing. So I don't feel like that's going away.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_05:

So I feel like it's gonna come back in the right time. So it's like I don't feel like I necessarily gave up, or in a different way. Like this to me, like the podcast itself, is a different way for me to express how I can be funny and shit like that, or how we could do this and whatever, and express how I think. Yeah. Now, when I see and I talk to niggas where it's like, oh man, that shit was just like, you know, it was just too much. And I'm like, Yeah. Like, I just don't, like it does something to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I think, and I mean, definitely what what you're saying, like to I'm so anchored in faith that I really am just like, oh, okay, well, that didn't work out. Like, it's more of like a protection versus rejection for me. There's things in my life that I've wanted really bad. And then I'm like, okay, nothing's lining up. And that's where that what I was saying about hustle culture comes in. Because it's like some people are like, nothing's lining up. It's like when we when we see the the people on TV, like the different entertainers and stuff like that, they always say, Well, this door closed. And then I just I made a way to bust through another one. And like, so we are we are thought or we are made to think that you have to still bust through those doors that close for you. But my faith makes me think otherwise, to where now I'm just like, okay, that door closed. Let me hold off and pray about it and see what other door opens now. And I've been grateful and blessed enough to say that at my age, and I haven't always seen it that way, but now I do like, damn, that was really just redirection. You know what I'm saying? Like this worked out, this worked out, this worked out. Where it was like a hard no, but it was really just like you needed to go another route. So um, for me, it is it's like case by case. When you look at a person, it's like, okay, what what are you anchored in? Are you just not doing this because no, that shit was crazy? You know what I'm saying? Some people will literally say that. Like, I you have no idea. One of my pet peeves used to be people quitting jobs, okay? And and I'll say to to set a standard for what where I'm coming from, I I've been at my job for it'll be 19 years next next week, matter of fact. So you quit your job, like what the fuck? Why? Like, you know what I'm saying? And then people will be like, oh, you motherfuckers were meaningful. Like, they were mean? Is that what you just said? And and I think that I'm like, people are mean all the time. That made you quit your job. So it's like when you hear that type of feedback from a person is saying that they stopped doing something, then yeah, there's some judgment that's gonna come with that because like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03:

It's tough. I think it I think it depends on why they quit. Now, if they quit because they had a better opportunity somewhere else.

SPEAKER_05:

No, I know, but I'm saying if they're communicating that that that's uh Can I give you a good example that I had, and like it fucked me up for a long time because I never understood why this nigga did this. I've I knew a person in the Navy, he was 18 years in, and he said, fuck this. And we're just done. I was like, nigga, you're two years away from a pension for the rest of your life. And I was like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00:

For what reason?

SPEAKER_05:

And that motherfucker's like, I just, I just can't. Like, I just can't do this shit no more. Like, I can't pretend to put up with this bullshit. Like, I've been faking for this long, and I'm like, that's a completely different thing. Cause like you basically been putting yourself and like killing yourself for 18 years. Yeah. Because it's like this type of stress that you got to deal with with that shit is basically fucking your heart up.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

And I'm like, you know what? I don't get it, but I respect the fucking out of that. Right, right, nigga, a pension after 20 years is like, that's he was gonna be what, 40 years old? And just here, here, here, here.

SPEAKER_03:

But I get it. I get it. Like, I get it. Because I feel like as a man, I don't know, maybe you guys can attest to this in YouTube Shrine. Like, the older, the older we get, the more responsibility we we get involved with as far as children and family, the harder it is to leave something that's a sure thing. Yeah. It's hard. Hey, I know, yeah, I'm I may hate it here. I may gotta deal with the bullshit, but I know every come every Friday, I got this in my bank account. I know my kids got health care. I know I got suspension coming up. It's hard it's hard to leave. Like you may dread walking in that motherfucker every goddamn day. Yeah. But the only thing that you go in there for is for the stability that it provides your family. And you go in there every day and you fucking and you you swallow your pride and you deal with shit you don't want to deal with, and you you cuss motherfuckers out in your head that you want to cuss out with and walk out and you know, like you deal with that shit because of what it provides. And it's hard, it's hard to walk away from, it's hard to walk away from stability into to instability. Like, yeah, like and I and I saw something like it's like every every person, this guy on on uh Instagram, I saw this real, he said every everyone has something that they are immensely talented in, but they don't see it that way because it comes so natural to them. And the the the trick as humans is that we if we if we can tone in on what we that comes that we are just great naturally at, yeah, that's your yeah, that's that's where you're gonna succeed the most because it takes the least amount of effort for you to and it so if you can figure that out and figure out how to monetize that to build the state the stability you need, you can walk away from all the shit.

SPEAKER_00:

That's where you find purpose at.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But I mean it's like there's comfort found in, but it's it's also about how you approach things, right? So if we're talking about a job with the example that you give, like, okay, so think outside the box. Is your job a job where you are going to do that very same thing that is irritating you or whatever for however much longer? Or is this something where you need to find a different position within your job? Or is this something like, you know what I mean? Sometimes there's those types of things. And I think that I could I perceive a quitter to be that person that doesn't think that way. They're just at the point where they're just like, oh no, I'm not gonna do this.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you talking about fucking just quit with no plan? With no plan.

SPEAKER_01:

And I think that that's what I that's what I found myself when I call it a pet peeve. That's kind of where I find the judgment. Because I mean, to be honest, in the 19 years I worked in my job, oh, I have hated it. Don't get me wrong. And I don't mean that on a day-to-day basis. I mean that within that time frame, I've worked several positions in several different areas, and there are places that I could not stand certain things. But you know what I did was okay, well, now I have to recruit. Let me see what's coming up. Like, let me apply for something different. Let me, you know, and I've held different positions. And I mean, I'm gonna go ahead and pop my collar again. I work from home now.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh my god. Oh, we know we know. Uh we know. I went from home for the last two months. Can I get can I get a gunshot?

SPEAKER_01:

Best thing ever. I had to go in and come back.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I think this might be Sharon's first time out of the house this week. She didn't say no.

SPEAKER_05:

Nigga, I've been door dashing Instacart movement.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't even been the state of I do Walmart, thank you, Walmart delivery. They don't have a charge of price. Uh yeah. So, but no, and that's where I've found myself now, where it's perfect. But it's just like you have to really put mind to that. And some people, their immediate thought is just to quit, you know, and and that's not that's not.

SPEAKER_05:

I got a nigga I work with now. He left and came back, and all of us were like, Why are you leaving? You gonna go to that job? You an idiot. Yeah, you you my age. What the fuck are you doing? And then begged to come back and then came back and start fucking up again. And I'm like, nigga.

SPEAKER_02:

Did he have to start over?

SPEAKER_05:

People just make it shit. Oh hell yeah, that nigga started over. Yeah. That's dumb. He back at base rate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's that's where I was like, nah. Nah.

SPEAKER_05:

No, no. Because I asked him, well, you ain't supposed to. I was like, how much you making? I was like, oh, yeah, that was dumb. You should be in the left, nigga. We all got racist. Well, you was gone, we all got racist.

SPEAKER_02:

Man, I would have if I hadn't.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, you should dumbass nigga.

SPEAKER_00:

Nobody wants to hear that.

SPEAKER_05:

Nobody feels no fucking simply like you said the pity party. That shit's out.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, that's out.

SPEAKER_01:

That's out.

SPEAKER_03:

That's like that's like nobody's like, well, you know, I could have cared. Yeah. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. You had a chance. You didn't take it.

SPEAKER_01:

Pity doesn't live with someone who doesn't have any intention to change.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

From from me. Fuck no. Because we're not going to keep doing this shit.

SPEAKER_02:

You ever see somebody just never try? Like you just look at them and you're like, but you've never tried life. Yeah. I can see if you tried. You've never tried.

SPEAKER_03:

You just I look I look at that in two ways. One, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And other I'll be like, how fucking confident are you in yourself that shit's gonna work out? I think about people.

SPEAKER_05:

I think a lot of that though, I always take that to fear. And like niggas is scared to like To fail? To fall. Like, and like the way I look at falling is like, nigga, are you like, do you think you're not gonna get back up? Cause that's the only way you find out who the fuck you are. Like, you have to like fall, nigga. You have to hit a point to where you're like, oh shit, am I gonna die? Like, no, nigga, you ain't gonna die unless you let yourself die. Like, get your ass up. And like, I think that's what builds you as a person is to like fall. Yeah. Like hard as fuck.

SPEAKER_01:

That's true. A lot of my lessons were learned from failure. Hell yeah. That's and I mean I know that they w and that I think that that might be one of the scariest things about life. And this might be a little off, but we all have to understand that we failed so many times. I'll speak for myself. I know that I've been. I'm a winner, nigga.

SPEAKER_05:

You're sick. Ain't never failed a day in my life.

SPEAKER_00:

Keep that shit over there.

SPEAKER_05:

Even when the teacher gave me an F, I said nah, nigga. Put a line on the side. It's an A now.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I will say that I have failed at things, right? Um, several things. Uh my failures have taught me my greatest lessons. I don't fail multiple times at the same thing because I learned my lesson from it, right? So, with that being said, and me to know where I'm at in life and to consider myself or to know that I'm grateful and I'm blessed where I'm at, I also know that I am going to fail multiple times still. And and like that's something that has to be accepted, and you have to accept that with the same joy that it that uh that the grief also comes with it.

SPEAKER_04:

So perseverance, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I mean, and I know that I built a level of resilience, but that level of resilience is always going to move because I'm going to have other failures. You know what I mean? So I mean, I can go home today and my kids don't already piss me off. So I might go home today.

SPEAKER_03:

Every day.

SPEAKER_01:

And and that may turn into a failure because somebody might get cussed out today, you know?

SPEAKER_02:

I was waiting for one of y'all to say, nigga, I did feel something. I fell at loose, and nigga.

SPEAKER_00:

Day one and cussing my kids out. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, perseverance is going to failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.

SPEAKER_03:

So I will say that's what I love about gym culture. That's what I love about gym culture and community. Because like you could like try to PR some shit and fail it, and they like nigga next time you got it. You got it.

SPEAKER_02:

You got that shit. I've seen a nigga drop weights on himself with end up with a black eye, and that motherfucker was right back.

SPEAKER_05:

He's like, man, because that's on his face? Yeah, nigga on his face. Hell no, I would have been out the gym. I would have been the non-perseverance nigga then. Sure enough. Next week he was there and he got it. Yeah, yeah. With the black eye. Hey, Kevin's not coming back.

SPEAKER_03:

What happened? I'm I'm like, I was talking to I don't know. That's another thing about like you you talk to all these niggas in the gym, don't know none of their names. Nope. I'm like I'm best friends with like two people. I don't know their names.

SPEAKER_05:

He got the big belt, you know, the nigga with the big belt.

SPEAKER_03:

I was I was talking, and I was talking to my homeboys, and he was in um don't know his name, but he was saying he's talking about my homeboy. And he and he's trying to get his sister to come work out with him, and he was like, man, and she's she's like, she's so caught up on, oh, I don't want to deal with the creepers. And he was like, bro, I'm telling her, like, 95% of the guys in here, yeah, you're gonna love. They're not gonna do that. He's like, yeah, there's gonna be that 5%. There's always that one asshole that's gonna be a creeper, that's gonna look. And but like nine, like 95% of the other guys are just here. They're just happy, they they're not even looking your way, and they're happy to help.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And it made me think about we got another friend, she was um, she was trying to um bench 135, right? And so she and she was like, asked me to spot her. I was like, Yeah, I got you. So I was spotting her, and she uh she unwrapped that shit and she and she got down and she you know, pushed it, you know, dropped a went to pick, put uh push it up, and then she was struggling. I was like, look, I'm not gonna help you. I said, either you push this shit or we're gonna lay here until you got energy to push this shit. And she was like, Are you? I said, Well, if you die, you'll die happy. You'll die under a bar. Damn.

SPEAKER_02:

Damn.

unknown:

Damn.

SPEAKER_03:

Long story short, she didn't get that shit. I helped her up. But I was like, nigga, you wasn't gonna let to the to the part you're talking about. Last Saturday, she got it. Yeah, she hit that shit. And I said, I told you you get that. I said, and it's it's ball, it's just about like you saying, it don't matter how many times you fell with some shit. The gym would tell you, it would teach you, nigga, if you keep showing up, you're gonna push that shit.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's life.

SPEAKER_02:

That the that creeper shit, nine times out of ten, especially in my gym, the men ain't looking at you, it's the other woman looking at you and like judgment. I know this stuff. I got the ruler, oh my god, what is she wearing? It's like you're the only one paying attention to this shit. What why do you care?

SPEAKER_05:

I feel like the more the men look out for that shit for like the creeper nigga be like, hey, nigga, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03:

In the gym, the men look at the other men like, God damn, nigga, yeah. I've had people come to me, I'll ask people, how do you get the nigga? How do you do that? Nigga, what are you doing to get this right here? Like it, it's it's it's like, but again, it is that small part of people that Well, you guys are the ones actually going to work out. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01:

I I think that I just had a conversation.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't wait to these bums leave in a couple weeks. Yeah, the the I didn't have to deal with that. You guys gotta have that.

SPEAKER_01:

It's a different, it's a different tone because I had a conversation with someone recently who he's been in the gym for years, and he was saying exactly what you guys are saying. Like, you're not in there, you're not really looking at nobody. If you are looking at, he told me like if he is looking at somebody, it's like they're doing that shit all wrong. Like, it's not like I'm looking at you because you're a friend of mine. Oh, don't piss me off. You just pissed me off.

SPEAKER_03:

You know, now you didn't piss me off, but you remind me of something pissed me off. That's it.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's like but but but when you have the guys that are in there for the you know the first couple weeks of January, or you have the guys that go in there seldomly, and they're just there are the people that are.

SPEAKER_03:

It's the motherfuckers in the way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I'm saying, but those are the guys in there, and those are the girls in there that are have they got on their best little outfits and they're doing the TikTok dances. Yeah, and and the guys are looking at it.

SPEAKER_03:

We got a we got a whole group, and me and my wife talk about them. We talk much off if y'all ever see this. We call them the BBO group. And it's like y'all? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't have no fucking BBO group.

SPEAKER_03:

No, I said we talk about them. Me and my wife talk about them.

SPEAKER_01:

Y'all can we run it back?

SPEAKER_03:

No, no, I'm telling y'all what we call it. Oh, we can't run it back live. So we there's this there's this group of women. Right. There's a there's a there's this group of women that clearly they've all had body work and they come in there and they working out and they and they and they posting content. And I'm like, y'all, nigga, you over here through hip thrusting the 20 pounds, like you got that asshole hip thrusting 20 pounds. Like, and it's hilarious because they be in they be in there looking clueless as fuck, yeah, pulling up YouTube and TikTok on how to do shit. And I'm like, bitch, get out the way. You in the way. Yeah, you we seen a lot of things. Just leave. Just leave.

SPEAKER_02:

Mad as shit trying to do hip thrust and gotta wait in line.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Hip thrusts.

SPEAKER_05:

I want to hear your perspective on that though.

SPEAKER_02:

What you feel about niggas quitting on their goals? Oh, quitting on their goals. I've seen it a lot. And for me, I don't get to where I've been in life without perseverance because you're gonna see failure so many times in life that you just kind of accept that's part of the the the evolution of who you are as a person. Personally, for me, I've seen in every aspect from music to working at UPS. Should I say that? Fuck it, I'll say it. Yeah, we're working weed at UPS. Uh to just in life in general, you just understand that that that failure is part of the process. And when I look at people giving up, it's like I asked the question was you just see people that don't never try. I I can't respect never trying. Like it's different to try and you're trying to figure out what path to go. You might need guidance on that path, but when you just don't try, it it fucks with me. Like, because it's like, wait a minute, you're not trying? Like, what are you doing if you're not trying?

SPEAKER_01:

What are you doing? Exactly. What are you even doing?

SPEAKER_02:

So I that's my big thing is like if you if you try and you failed and you're you're afraid because of the failure, I can understand that, but I can't rock with you just accepting that or being complacent in that.

SPEAKER_05:

Like to be truthful, to me, I think the try is the most important part. Yeah, that's the most important part.

SPEAKER_02:

I can respect you trying.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, my dad used to say, nothing beats a failure but a try. Yeah, you're not gonna, you're not even gonna. I mean, you may still fail, but you're not even gonna.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

The only thing that's going to be the failure is to try.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, like Jay said, lost and loss is a lesson.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And I what I dealt with recently is the a person making a big deal about wanting to do something, and then you go, all right, bet, nigga. And you you meet them halfway. Let's see what you do about. You gotta do it, and then you get them there, and they're like, oh man, it's too much. It's like, what? But you just make the biggest deal about getting here. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01:

People like to talk.

SPEAKER_02:

I said, I I get that short time.

SPEAKER_03:

Hey, man, I need to work out with you. All right, bro. Well, I'm here every day at this time. And then you like this time?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. This time, nigga, you just make the biggest deal about wanting to change your life. Do it.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm here every day. I said, if you can't make it here today, I'm here every day at this time. Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not telling you come today. You know, whenever you show up, show you gotta when you do it. Yeah, I'm here.

SPEAKER_02:

We gotta especially now being 40 playing basketball, and now that I post the basketball content, co-workers all the time. Hey man, I'm trying to hoop with you. Nigga, I show up at this time or this time. Let me know. Are you serious? And you're like, never show up. And I'll be like, I can get you up for free on this day. Oh, you uh uh I was just saying, no, you're just saying, you just told me you were you were ready to do this.

SPEAKER_01:

I saw something one time that says that a lot of times you you lose people in your life because they meet you at what they see your potential to be, or not even your potential, what you're presenting yourself to be, right? So you're presenting yourself and you're playing basketball or whatever. So they see that and they love it and they meet you there. But then when they come into your life and they see that you're fucking serious about that, and this could be on multiple levels. I mean, the the the um place that I saw it from was like dating, right? Um, but you came into my life admiring all these things about my about me. Now that you're in my life, you're like, oh shit, she's serious. She really, she really don't, she really does go to sleep at 10 o'clock.

SPEAKER_02:

I see the intimidation factor immediately. 10 o'clock, nigga, that's late. This is for Matt.

SPEAKER_05:

Matt, right, Matt, Matt. I said I was gonna come do jujitsu. Yes. And then I saw that video of some niggas' toe fucked up, and I was like, maybe not.

SPEAKER_01:

You're afraid of injury. I think I think I figured it out.

SPEAKER_02:

Nope. Matt offered me uh two weeks free. And I was at first, I was like, man, that's a good dude, man. Then I thought I said this nigga might just want to whip my ass. Two weeks free.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't think they do that on like I'm gonna whoop your ass a little bit to show you what it's like. But when I saw the niggas like toe and ankle like the other way, I was like, nah, I'm cool. Like this was just to work out. Like I am cool. If you do uh Judicial, you have to do a cardio nigga. That's that's gonna be your cardio. I know, but then I might also have to go to work and be like, hey, I'm on these crudges because the nigga made my ankle go the other way.

SPEAKER_03:

Hey, that's what this boy is for.

SPEAKER_01:

But that's what that I like those types of work. I remember I told you guys I started kicking you shit. That shit is bomb. I literally fucking love it.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what's up. So you got hands up.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it.

SPEAKER_02:

I thought I'd just I didn't square up, nigga.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it.

SPEAKER_02:

When you said it last time, it made me think about uh that ev that scene in uh barbershop with Eve when she was on the beach and they were like, niggas ain't shit. Niggas ain't shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Like I didn't want to say that to the doing guys.

SPEAKER_03:

But you saw how how quick she was ready. I said, I said she wanna square up with somebody right now. She can't wait to use what she learned.

SPEAKER_01:

I really love it. I do, I do, I do. And it's because it's a workout, it's a full body workout. And mind you, it's I I like the the the setup of the gym because we do weightlifting of different sorts, and then the last like 20 to 30 minutes we do the actual kick on the bag or whatever. But it's a full body workout. It's like, but at the same time, it's just like I find fun in it. I don't think it's a lot of fun. That's what's up, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what matters. Yeah, so I wouldn't. I feel like there's an activity for everybody. Yeah, I'll buy it. I do I feel like some people wouldn't mind working out if they could work out in a group. Some people need group settings, some people like to be isolated, some people like if it's more than three niggas, I ain't there.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm a dole, I'm a I'm a dolo workouter.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't like being in that group setting shit.

SPEAKER_01:

But you gotta find what works. Because I remember I told you guys I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you need somebody to spot your ass? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Forget that. I used to work out with my neighbor, and then he was like, and you gonna hit this? And I'm like, Well, as long as you stand right here, nigga, I'll try.

SPEAKER_01:

Like, I'll try. We gotta still try.

SPEAKER_02:

I do smith machines because I don't trust people, nigga.

SPEAKER_05:

Smiths are hard though. I hate that weird feeling. Like, whoa. You know what I mean. Anyway. Um, so what's something y'all gave up on? Like, do you think you will get back to it, or do you think that ship is sailed? And like, how do you how does that make you feel if that ship has sailed?

SPEAKER_02:

I think it's a different look.

SPEAKER_01:

Anything I give up on, it's a ride.

SPEAKER_02:

For good? I think it's yeah, for me, it's a different look. What you mean? Like meaning I'll do music, but I'm not gonna do it like then, like you're trying to tour and do it. Fuck no. Okay. I'll I'll put out a project. Yeah. Hey, hey, if the AI bitch can go on tour from a computer, I was like, if the money's right, but I don't think nobody's just gonna offer money to me to just go out on tour right now. But if if the money came, sure. But like as far as me doing like like you're talking about the networking, the dude, like that's uh that's a whole process that I'm I'm not building.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like so calculated in the things that I give up on, they're gone forever. And I there's some people that are like, I'm gonna stop doing this, and then like they didn't really put forth the effort and thought and all of that into it.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, if I'm contemplating quitting something or someone, um why you gotta slide your hand towards me now somehow emphasis.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, and I'll I'll I'll be transparent. Um, because I don't like to talk about like my past people or whatever, but in in transparency with like relationships, I've never stopped or broke up with someone um and went back because by the time I arrive at the like literally, once we are done, we are fucking done. But with that being said, and again, this applies in different areas of my life. If me quitting anything, I have given it a lot of layers. Yeah, there's a lot of thought, there's prayer that went into it. I I have gone through the trenches, and you may not even know it. Um, the person may not even know it or whatever, but I've gone through every level of saying, am I gonna give up on this? So once I've decided to give up on something or someone, it's dead.

SPEAKER_02:

So just to be clear, when your kickboxing career starts, you're not giving up on the podcast, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Not without prayer. Not without prayer.

SPEAKER_05:

Hey yo, my nigga. I want you to, I want you to quit hitting my mic. Strong ass hand. You over here kickboxing with my mic.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm quitting today. This is my last day here.

SPEAKER_03:

Nigga hitting jabs and shit. I talked with my hands. Just messing with you. Y'all know I'm messing with you. I told her, I told her before recording, I said, please don't hit me.

SPEAKER_00:

I wanted them, like you know how they said black people laugh in three different ways. Something run off. I wanted these, like, yeah. That's me. She still hit me. I know. I had to demonstrate.

SPEAKER_02:

That's funny.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't help myself. That's funny.

SPEAKER_02:

They call me Neo.

SPEAKER_06:

Why?

SPEAKER_02:

Dodging you. The first, the first hands, your first. Oh, dodging. Some hands are coming. I was like, ooh, oh, she ain't looking.

SPEAKER_00:

Um amongst friends.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh I'm I'm giving up overextending myself. That's what I'm giving up. Overextend.

SPEAKER_00:

Poor wife.

SPEAKER_03:

I like it. My poor wife. No, that woman lived have to overextend at home. That woman lived good live good. Well, I think I don't think that's overextending. No, I'm talking about my I'm talking about my time.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you over you overextend your time a little bit with your home life.

SPEAKER_03:

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_00:

Back to your poor wife.

SPEAKER_03:

I'll show when she needs me to.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Here's the thing about that. Because I can't really help her with the things that like, because like I like I say all the time, we have defined roles in my marriage. And I can't really help her in her lane because I'm not gonna do it the way she wanted to get done, so it's gonna piss her off more. That's true. So when I just tell her, hey, nigga, all right, don't do it today. Like, I don't I I never really pressure her to get shit done until it's time to get shit done. I gotta work on that. I'm like, hey, you know, all right, nigga, I'll I'll cook today. Calm down. Like, we can go get some.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, good shit. My wife, she made some, she made some shit the other day. I don't believe it, nigga. It was delicious. I don't believe I don't believe it. She made cues steak, homemade gravy, all that shit. Fucking magic. Was she on TikTok?

SPEAKER_01:

I know she pulled out the petrol. No, she probably copied my shit. Let me probably copy my shit. I know how to cook and I can cook very well.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

But I go to TikTok often. Okay. I made egg roll in a bowl last night. Got that shit. Oh no, that's just fire.

SPEAKER_05:

That's just fire.

SPEAKER_01:

I sure did, and I got it off of TikTok. Now, when I do go on TikTok, I literally be like, okay, boom, boom, boom. This is what they put in it. I ain't really got to, I don't have to watch the instructions because I got it from here.

SPEAKER_03:

No, no. Miss Kevin is watching every instruction.

SPEAKER_00:

Go back to that.

SPEAKER_03:

She's watching exact amount of seasoning.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no. I ain't.

SPEAKER_05:

She's watching exactly good because she was doing some shit. And I was like, all right, this is a good learning lesson. Yeah. That recipe is bullshit. Like they tell you to start with this, but then you look at it and go, See, you know, something ain't right. And then she was like, wait, but that's what it said. And I was like, watch this. And I poured a little water to help her out. And she was like, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00:

So we learned it. She won.

SPEAKER_05:

You taught her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You can say y'all learned it.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, wait, I knew.

SPEAKER_00:

I knew.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, but I'm just not like, I'm not I I I am uh limiting my commitments.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's fair. I yeah, I definitely do that.

SPEAKER_05:

I ain't got shit for nobody. What I'm gonna say is I'll be back. Y'all niggas better get better. Cause if you don't, I'm taking your spot. Fuck it. Let's be real. Y'all niggas know who the fuck I am. Anyway, this had been episode 229. Hold on, nigga. Who are you for now? Who are you? 229. Who are you? Of the heavyweight podcast. These niggas know. They all know. So when I step on stage and I give it to y'all motherfuckers, you better have your face. This nigga said. This nigga said big shit popping. So little shit stopping. Don't quit on us. We ain't gonna quit on y'all. It's been real. We'll see you next week. Peace. Sweaty. That's rap, y'all. That's that's how she repeats. So make sure, click like, subscribe. Tune in. We're on Australia platform. So until next time.