Talk Yo Shit "D'zyl 5k1"

Success looks different when you become responsible for more than yourself.

In this episode of The Heavyweight Collective, Inland Empire rapper D'zyl 5k1 returns for a conversation about fatherhood, artistry, legacy, and growth. The discussion explores how becoming a parent changes creative decisions, personal priorities, and the type of impact you want your work to leave behind.

The episode also shines a light on the Inland Empire music scene and the resilience required to build a career in a region often overlooked by the larger entertainment industry. From there, the conversation dives into his upcoming album The Way I Devise, health challenges that changed his perspective, and the ongoing balance between ambition, family, and authenticity.

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Transcript

Welcome Back To Talk Your Shit

SPEAKER_04 0:00

So we're embarking on something we've never done before. This is the first time we're doing this. We've done Talk Yo shit for over a year now. And this is the first time we're actually having a guest come back. So this is new territory for me. So as I say this, I don't want to repeat myself from last time when I introduced our guest. So I'm pretty sure last time I introduced how we met, you know, uh no. This time around I'm gonna say we both embarked on something in the past decade, I wanna say, as as adult men that uh now we have children. And when we first met, it was all about the music, and then eventually you get older, you go through life, you live it, and then eventually you realize it's not always about you anymore, now it's about these beautiful uh seeds that we've created that are now in the world that we have to take care of and make sure that they're done right by. So it's interesting to see the evolution of us as people, especially him as a father, to now be a father in a space and still try to be an artist. So this time around, I want you guys to give him a big round of applause. Uh, this is who I consider a brother of mine. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I give to you Diesel 5001.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. Welcome back. Thank you, thank you. Welcome, welcome. I've been here the whole time. I've just been in the back room. He's like draft. Back room. Shit, that's just by the track isn't. It's apparently it's an alternate dimension. It's a thing. It's a thing. I've been stuck there since last time.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

All right, Diesel.

Good Guy Versus Nice Guy

SPEAKER_04 1:50

What is one thing that people assume about you that they get completely wrong? Ooh. I think I'm nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Which I'll well, man, I won't. I'm not a nice guy. I'm a good guy, I'm not a nice guy. There's a big difference. Like I'm a good man, but not. And you know, also a lot of people think I'm a white rapper because I'm light skinned, but like I'm not like Drake light skinned, I'm more like Mac 10 light skinned. Like I probably have a 22 in my boot right now. You don't know that, but you know. Um yeah, um, I I've been I've been doing this for a long time, and you know, we all go through our different phases. You know, I was a husband before, like, I'm still dad, always will be a dad. And I go through my phases and like, you know what, I'm I'm always gonna love doing it no matter what. Like, I I was talking to somebody the other day about, you know, like if I'm never if I never get rich and famous, cool, whatever. That's not what I did it for. I did this like because it gave me a voice and music gave me confidence. It's something that I can do really well. Something I can show my kids, hey, look, your dad did what he liked, and he put this all into it, and he did some pretty cool stuff along the way. And you know, if I if I was rich and famous, you guys probably have a messed up life too. So I don't, you know, not you know, saying that it's like the reason that I'm not rich and famous, but at the same time, like, hey, you guys got to experience stuff on a on a on a human level. Like I I've done some cool, great things in my time. I have a pretty good resume, but like also you guys get to experience me being your dad. Like I'm still present in your life. You know, so I I cherish that, you know, more like more than anything. And like with the music too, like, man, when I was in my 20s, the stuff I was saying then, I listened to it now, as compared to what I say now, like I'm cringing because I'm like, ooh, what was I on saying that, you know? Because I also was on Demon Time back then, and now it's like, man, my kids may hear this song, so either I'm gonna tell them to skip it or I gotta explain to them the context of this song. Like, you'll never hear me talk bad about their mom on there, you'll never hear me, you know, say things that I wouldn't be comfortable saying to them in conversation. So, like, hey, look, you're gonna be some cussing on there. I know you guys probably cuss too when I'm not around. But you know, I want you guys to be able to enjoy it and be proud of it and say, hey, yo, yo, my dad's my dad, my dad's dope.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

So if your life was a movie, what would the title be at this moment? At this moment. Yeah, because it can change. Oh my god. Backrooms.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

It's a good movie. You guys should check it out. It's kind of crazy. What you doing on the scene? The unseen head. That's even I got bills, man. I gotta pay them.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

That's a crazy turn.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

You guys can subscribe right now in case of copy.

SPEAKER_05 4:30

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Um, man, that's that's uh movie right now. I can't think. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, that's a good one. I'm supposed to give it a heads up. I'm gonna steal that for another. Hell yeah. Oh, I'm gonna have a movie watching it. I I gotta come back to that after the next picture.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Okay.

Inland Empire Artists Train With Weights

SPEAKER_04 4:51

So how would you say it is for an inland empire artist to be shaped in this climate? Because it's very different than, say, a Los Angeles artist. So how would you say being an inland empire artist?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Man, I always say that we've been like training, we've been running with weights on since like we started. We're we we're like the red-headed stepchildren of LA. People already not going to like think much of us. I remember um uh way back in the days when I had my group with uh with Sonny Phoenix, um, his uncle had an end with uh Interschool Records, uh Kevin Black. And when he was trying to bring him to us, bring bring us to him to uh to get us on with her. It's like, man, don't bring me no Sam Redin' rappers. All they do is talk shit. Like, I don't I don't want no hooligans running around here or whatever. So that's been like our reputation, like in the industry for a while. We're just, you know, we're the capital of the country for the longest time. So we we we've always been like not uh taken seriously. So like that's why we were we've been grinding and and honing our skills and going everywhere just just killing it because we had a chip on our shoulder. We had something to prove. And everybody's like competing and sharpening each other's still. So like when we go to other places, like when I go out of state to perform and whatnot, I feel like I'm Superman on Earth. You know, a Krypton is just like you're just regular old, you know, Calel, but on Earth, you're Superman. Because like, like, oh, I didn't realize we were training so hard and going overboard, trying to get these skills up, just because it was just like shark-infested water. And now we're here, like, oh wait, we can let our guard down a little bit? Damn, like maybe this is a good thing that we were overlooked and in the underdogs for for so long, because when we go elsewhere, and that's and there's dope people everywhere, but I'm just saying for us, we're we're exceptionally skilled because we we had to be to survive. Like at my high school, I was I was the dopest rapper at the high school. I was their bride. I would battle other people from other schools. And if I I if I sucked, if I I would have got jumped. I would have to Sierra High School where all the gangs were at. So I was a pride of their school. If I wasn't good enough to be in a cipher, I probably would have got my ass beat. And if I if I embarrassed my school by losing somebody else, I probably wouldn't have made it home that day. So like I had to be good at at whatever I did. I had to be really, really, really good at that. And the same thing translated to again to the music game. You can't come from where we're from and be trash because then they can look at all of us.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

So, what would you say outsiders think of the inland empire?

SPEAKER_00 7:23

They think it's some faraway fantasy land for like, I mean, we go elsewhere all the time, right? But they always think like, oh, we gotta drive over 30 minutes, like, where are we going? To Narnia? Like, nah, man, just it's just go down to 10. Yeah, you know?

SPEAKER_04 7:36

I think it always bugs me too to see um, like when you see like a news interview or something, and they'll be like, oh, Los Angeles, no white. Nigga, that was Riverside. How the fuck did you get?

SPEAKER_05 7:50

I hate that too. They'll just write it off to Los Angeles. I mean, I'm gangbanging a little bit, but I I don't like the whole Riverside is Inland Empire. Yeah, we're Riverside. You're Riverside, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

I mean, it's inland. But you over here, she like was the Island boys. You know I'm thugging, right?

SPEAKER_05 8:08

I mean, like, I had to preface it with that, but it's just like the to tie it in. Yeah, they grew because you're right. If you if you become famous from the inland empire, you're from LA.

SPEAKER_03 8:18

You know what's funny? You know, when I first came back out here looking to do comedy, I asked some people, like, hey, what's the comedy scene like in Riverside? And they was like, or the Inland Empire supposedly, there ain't one. And I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_05 8:31

Yeah, yeah. That can't be true. I'm from Riverside, I'm not from the Inland Empire.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

She is hanging on.

SPEAKER_05 8:39

Sorry, I just don't like that shit. It's weird.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

So what inland and inland Empire artists inspire

Local Legends And The Scene Today

SPEAKER_04 8:47

you?

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Oh, there's many. Uh myself, for one. I gotta put on the um, you know, people I work with, uh my partner Tangent, you, my only personal. Um man, I I've been able to do shows and songs with one of one of like my OGs, uh Dirty Birdie. You know, like that's the guy I want to grow up being like and whatnot. Like I said to him, Big Bro, you know, see for yourself. Um Cam Archer's out there. I mean, there's a lot of people, big Noah James. Um we're we're all brethren, you know? Yeah, you know, to an extent, you know. Uh I don't I don't have problems with anybody. If anybody has problems with me, they'll never let me know. You know, probably because I'm a giant. But uh yeah, there's a lot of dope artists out there. The young ones coming up. I said uh my boy Personal, man, he's he's a young gunner. That that man has the future ahead of him, needs to drop some more albums. I know you love right now, but drop some more albums, bro. Um my my nephew, Sonny Phoenix, uh Ace Sincere. Yeah, man, there's just so much version and talent out there, and it's from every every background, you know, every background and every line of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_04 9:49

Oh, you said personal's in love?

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Oh what? Yeah, he's you know, that wasn't your music. He's getting material for the next project. He's gonna drop like 40 pieces about it. He's in the research mode.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in research mode.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

He's living the material right now. Like, I get it.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

I get that. I get that. I was like, because that was I'm not gonna let him skip over that that part.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Yeah. So like I I date like for the plot. Like, I know it's probably gonna end up bad, but like, man, I'll make some fire ass songs out of this. Like, I know it. Oh, you're you're you're toxic? Bad. Tell me more. Tell me more.

SPEAKER_04 10:27

So would you say that ships on your shoulder is what keeps you representing the inland empire instead of ever thinking about relocating or trying to do music elsewhere?

SPEAKER_00 10:38

I mean, if you can make stuff pop out here, you can make it pop anywhere. Like, so if you can survive in the in the empire, you can make because it is, it is rough. Yeah, you know, it's expensive. You wouldn't think it would be expensive, like, because with this this part of California, but like it's it's just a rough climate, you know, and it's it's not for weak people. Like, I like I was born in LA, but like I've been out here since I was seven, you know. So coming up being the light skin in San Bernardino, like you don't grow up soft. You know, so I had to learn the hard way about a lot of things. You know, parents of divorce. Um, I was a Jehovah's Witness kid, light-skinned, chubby. I had a lot of factors going against me, and I was blood in the water. And, you know, coming up through that and still like, I'm still here. I'm not addicted to anything. I don't have, you know, a bunch of kids running everywhere, and you know, no prison ties, none of that stuff. Like, I feel like, hey, damn, like I I had avoided a lot of stuff, and I I could have not been here. I've been on my deathbed a few times. I've been around a lot of stuff that probably would have kept me from being here at this moment, but I'm grateful for being here at this moment despite experiencing all of experience in life, especially growing up in San Bernardino.

SPEAKER_05 11:54

The was what's the uh murder capital? Was it like number one?

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, mainly because the first McDonald's was there. Yeah, the first time.

SPEAKER_05 12:03

Oh, that's the first start killing people.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Like a billion over a billion killed or certainly buddy. I'm sure they contributed to that raid. It's all statistics.

SPEAKER_05 12:17

San Bernardino is crazy, you know. I mean, they're they're getting there. Where? Crazier? They're getting crazier? I don't know. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

We'll get a sprouts one day. Oh no, that's Highlands. That's Highlands.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

They don't have no sprouts.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Uh now I was one in Redlands and one in uh Fontana.

SPEAKER_05 12:34

But not in the city of San Bernardino.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Yeah, yeah. Because I always get them because Highlands is Yamava. I was like, yeah, yumma, but that's not anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 12:42

So you have a new album

The Way I Devise Album Reveal

SPEAKER_04 12:44

coming. Mm-hmm. What is the title and what can fans expect from that album?

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Ooh. The song, the album's called The Way I Devise. It's uh all produced by my homie uh from Australia, Devise Beats. And we've been doing stuff for like almost a couple of decades now. And it's crazy because like in other continents, they they appreciate our stuff like more than we do. Because it's that's our our pop culture is like our main export. So like in Japan and Australia, they love West Coast artists. There's there's like even um a lowrider scene in Japan, which it which is wild. I'm like, oh, you you guys are on that. Oh, that's dope. And same with like with Australia, they love West Coast artists. In fact, I heard of Dirty Birdie because um I was on this mixtape by DJ Age from Australia, and he was also on that. And he was like, hey, you know somebody from your city is on this too. I'm like, ooh, he's a Dirty Birdie, like, oh, and I had to look him up. I didn't know him at the time. I was just a kid. It's like that's crazy that like, you know, two people from San Bernardino get to work on something from something across the world, you know, and I'm like, and that's what I found out more and more like, oh, in other places, in Germany, France, you know, they're they're big on hip hop, and they they hold it in such a high regard because it's something that's it's different to them, it's forward to them. The same way we get influences from other stuff around the world, we give that to them, and they they hold it like it's a holy grail. So like all the production on here, you hear like West Coast production, there's some down south production, some East Coast stuff. And then man's never set a foot in the States. But I mean, the it's brilliant, brilliant work, and we've worked together on most of my projects over the years, and I have enough beats from my like I might as well make a whole project with do it all as production. And and it's it's uh it that's give diverse as it sounds, it's just one person that's you know producing all this stuff, and it is fire. That's you know, but yeah, uh the way I devised the uh way I came up with the title is like, hey man, just set me in a room, leave me to my own devices, then let me let me do how I do it, and I'm gonna give you nothing but just heat. And it's it's probably the album I've always wanted to make. It's I didn't intend for it to be as good as it is. I humbly speaking, humbly speaking, but like it was just like let me use up all these beats, and it ended up becoming like a monster. And then, like, you know, luckily I have really, really dope friends that that came in uh for features on it, and it's it's coming bigger than I thought it was gonna be. And it's just who are some of the the features? I'm glad you asked. Let's go, let's go down the line. Uh my homie uh S. Dot Jackson, Sean John Jack, my homegirl Samantha, uh Samantha Saddak, uh the homie Edderick, uh Eugene O'Neil, what's the guy on there? Teflon Vest, uh Jay Ghost, the heathen from Sweden, as I call him. Uh, there's this other guy. I can't remember his name. It's uh uh Oh yeah, Stutter McFly. He's on a song, on one of my favorite songs ever. And also on that same song, my my kids are on it. You know, I was I was talking to my daughter about the album. She's like, Daddy, I want to be on the song. Like, oh, you do?

unknown 16:01

Bet.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

I've been waiting for this my whole life. And if you want to take this up, let me know so I can retire. And put everything behind you guys. But yeah, they said they want to be honest, so cool. They're singing on the song uh that you're actually on as well. And we're gonna do a video for it. It's gonna be real, real dope. And uh Yeah.

Health Scare That Changed Everything

SPEAKER_00 16:20

And the song, like, I I almost died uh about five years ago. I was just working extra overtime, doing all these extra jobs, side gigs, whatnot. And I was I was drinking energy drinks like they were like they were water. And apparently, if you have more than three in one day, it will almost give you a heart attack. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 16:39

I mean, I'm just looking at you. That was my first drinking whatever. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying that helping you have one.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

I only do one.

SPEAKER_05 16:46

I always be telling y'all about energy drinks, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Yeah, like I was delirious that day. I was I was shaking and and cold, but sweating. And then I remember just like passing out on my bed, like, and then my boy came and found me. And um, you know, we called the paramedics, whatnot. And he he meditated with me, tried to get my heart rate down. I I I knew I was dying. Jesus. I remember that the EOT came in and he was like Captain America. I'm like, am I gonna, am I gonna die? He's like, not on my watch, sir. I don't know who that angel was, but like he put something in me and it calmed me down with my my blood pressure, my blood sugar, my heart rate were through the roof. I was literally about to explode. And I remember I was going to the hospital, and this is why they say you should always, you know, wear something flattering to bed and everything underwear. I had on like my Marvel superheroes pajamas.

SPEAKER_05 17:35

And they're looking crazy. You know? About to die.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Like, I don't think I ain't showered in a day. Like I was I was scruffy and everything. And wait a minute. Ain't nothing wrong with the Marvel pajamas.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

No, no, I know, but like there are a lot of hot nurses. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute. Nothing wrong with it at all. But also, some of those beautiful nurses I've ever seen in my life. I'm a lady right now. I don't know if they do this. I don't know if they do this. I do.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

I'm not gonna give a shit.

unknown 18:03

I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

Yeah, I'm dying.

SPEAKER_05 18:08

Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

So are you gonna still save?

SPEAKER_02 18:11

I got holes in the pajamas too. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna save my intrusive thoughts and all the lower. I'm gonna say the pajamas will change the package.

SPEAKER_05 18:27

Yeah, I just like Marvel, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

But but the packages open a little bit. You know, advertisement.

SPEAKER_05 18:35

So, yeah. But yeah, and uh they keep the air low in the hospital.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, mainly. And probably I was I was eating fast food. I I was not taking care of myself, and it did not feel good on that hospital bed. And I was there for days and the days. How old are you? I'm 22. Shut the fuck up. I'm not this guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

That's always personal questions.

SPEAKER_06 19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

I'm in my 40s, bro. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

That's that's vague enough. A lot of things are explained in that.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Yeah, I'm I'm a grown, I got I got grades.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

Like I like. Okay, I grew up in the Wesley Sniper area, so hell yeah, it was tough. Yeah, I'm an 80s baby. Hell yeah, it's tough for like 80.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Like 80s. In the 80s, there's a lot of years in there. It's somewhere in there. It's a guessing game. You just that's fair.

SPEAKER_05 19:32

We all 80s babies, so we'll we'll take that.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

You're not.

SPEAKER_05 19:35

I am 80s baby.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

You were 88?

SPEAKER_05 19:37

88, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Nigga, you're not an 80s baby. We almost you're almost a 90s. You know, if you wasn't walking in the 80s, you don't count.

SPEAKER_05 19:44

You don't know when I started walking.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

You a little slow, probably about four. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

Four is nuts.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Does your back hurt right now? Okay, okay. Well, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Then we don't use you can't use that metric for women because they got titties.

SPEAKER_05 20:05

No, we have kids. We don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Yeah, but they too, but they've been carrying theirs longer.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

No, I I think it's it's I might be I might be getting catching some of them now. Like, I've been I've been killing these bimpers for a while.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

We all get them at some point. It's just a matter of when. We do.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

It's them epidurals that be fucking us up, I think. That's another thing. We should have been strong enough to go wrong. Another time. I have to get you went raw before. I had to be able to do that. I'm not even getting it. You went raw before. Shouldn't go wrong after. We cannot stand him today.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

So, what would you say life event may have inspired a lot uh the content of this album?

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Um, well, yeah, go go back to the incident of the song. Um actually, yeah, because um I was delirious and I don't know if it was just a dream or if it happened, but like I'm pretty sure like I met like my guardian angel. Like, like I was I don't know if I was hallucinating or I was meditating or it actually happened. Either way, I experienced it, and like it talked to me in my voice, which is probably the only voice I listened to. You know, and it said, look, when this happened, when this happened, when this happened, I saved you. That was me, that was me, that was me. I'm not gonna do it anymore. I need you to love yourself better so you can love them. And I woke up. And like I've been taking much better care of myself ever since. I don't know if it's just my psyche or subconscious or it was a guardian angel, and I'm sorry. It's probably you know, someone with a cigarette just this guy. This fucking guy. But uh yeah, I I've I've mentally, spiritually, physically, I've I've had to take inventory in myself, and uh I want to be here for my kids too. Like I don't ever want them to worry about me going out for something that's presentable preventable. I have a lot of friends that are that were younger than me that have died. Because of health reasons. And you know, we can get taken out, you know not just by bullets, but by salt and sugar. You know, those are the biggest killers we got out there, you know. Yeah, McDonald's. Yeah, McDonald's. Number one killer from the number one murder rate suite. It's the ranch dressing, it ain't even the burger.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Uh my daughter.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

She's trying to gauge your age. Don't do it. Don't tell her.

unknown 22:22

I already know how it is.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

My daughter is 11 and my son is eight.

SPEAKER_05 22:26

And that's the same thing. And they're going on 30. I got older kids than everybody here.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

That's yeah, we know you were out there.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

And I'm Damn, this nigga is taking shots.

Favorite Tracks And Listener Imagination

SPEAKER_05 22:42

Bang bang.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

What would you say, fans? What song do you think fans will connect with the most in this album? Ooh. Man, I got so many favorites on there.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

For one, that that same song. It's called Smile Through It All. To say, hey, no matter what you go through in life, you can still find a way to laugh. I always call it uh trying to find a cool spot in hell. Because like in hell, there's there's no cool spot. Be like, let me change my mentality, find something positive out of it. So you can smile, you can laugh, you can find some way to enjoy your day, even if you have the worst day in the world, you you can make it. I mean, that's that's that's the Sam Radio mentality growing up. You know, like, hey, everything sucks, but man, that joke was funny. Or you know what that cute girl smiled at me, or like, damn, you know what? Thanks. I spit a nice little rap today.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

On that note, I like that. On that note, what is your favorite lyric and proud moment on this album?

SPEAKER_00 23:36

So many. You know, I I really love the intro. Um, the intro, I I always record it last when I do an album, and I always try to go to hardest, all that, and it is just four minutes of just me barring out. I have all the cute concepts and everything later on the album, but the intro track uh called Idle Hands. I that's one of my proudest moments. But uh my favorite, ooh, my favorite lyric?

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Damn. Thank it, huh?

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Yeah, because I think that's always that's a lot of them. I'm just saying. Well, like I I can't I can't narrow it as like choosing between kids. But uh my favorite song.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Damn. Damn.

SPEAKER_05 24:11

That's called Well, I was singing some songs, and you tell me what your favorite part is for that. I know how to choose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Um well yeah, uh uh I can tell you my two favorite songs. I I can't narrow down the lyrics.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

They all they're they're just doing a lyric from one of those songs.

SPEAKER_04 24:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Because they got they gotta be your favorite for a reason.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

There might be a line in there that you're like, man, I did that shit. That was me. That was you already dodged one question. You already dodged one question. Yeah, we're not letting you dodge circle and back.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Yeah, he already dodged one.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

I'm trying to remember the lyrics. I'm old.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

See that yep, see more angel.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Like, hold on, do I have my gist this morning? Like, let's go down.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Gotta take your vitamin stack. Oh, I haven't taken my one a day. Yeah, you're right. Old ass nigga.

SPEAKER_05 25:03

Not the one a day.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Make sure you get your fish oil. Oh man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:09

Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Oh, you popular today, huh? No, you can take the calls. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

No, you guys, it's my it's your side, nigga. No.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

You could, you could just not acknowledge it.

SPEAKER_05 25:20

Y'all, it's music. You keep hearing the music through my glasses. We don't. Are you are you listening to songs right now? She didn't. I was it was playing before I got here in the car and now connected to my glasses.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

She has the meta glasses. You didn't hear that?

SPEAKER_03 25:32

I'm not gonna cry.

SPEAKER_05 25:34

No, that was not that was this battle is the Lord's by Yolanda Adams. That was not no damn Mary J. Like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Wait, wait, hold on. Wait. So your baby daddy came over yesterday, and now you now you listen to the battle of the Lord?

SPEAKER_05 25:54

Not Lord.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

You're right. I ain't going with that. This is about this is about Diesel, not Shaw. My favorite lyrics.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Yeah, your favorite lyrics. What was your favorite lyric from the song you're listening to instead of being present with us? I'm sorry. Let's let's flip that table.

SPEAKER_05 26:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

It better have been a banger. She's probably listening to Jack Harlow.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

It was a banger. What was your favorite lyric?

SPEAKER_00 26:22

I was hoping they give me enough time to stall.

SPEAKER_05 26:25

Right? I tried. You should have it by now.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

I tried. Yeah. Honestly, I'm blank. You guys can tell me what your favorite lyric is when you hear it.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Well played. Well played.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

Because I guess that's that's we're flipping shit. Personal to me, but like to you, it can mean something else. So I don't want to influence you while you're looking for that specific lyric. I want you to listen to it. And that's why I hate doing videos, because like I want you to have the picture in your head of how the song should be. Plus, I don't like to look cool in videos or try to look cool or whatnot, but like I'm still gonna do videos for the project and whatnot, but I want the listener to have like their own, you know, uh this image of what the music gives to

Boundaries And The Major Pain Era

SPEAKER_00 27:05

them.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

You like those artists? Since we're flipping shit, we're gonna flip right back to that second question.

SPEAKER_05 27:09

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

If your life was a movie, what would be the title right now?

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Oh yeah, he never did answer that.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

I like that question. That's a good question. Major pain.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Why? And I'm not bullshitting, I'm trying to get through it.

SPEAKER_05 27:23

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Now I'm at that stage in life where I don't feel like I should be nice anymore to people that don't deserve it. Like, like I like I went through like my healing phase and getting my energy right and you know, taking, you know, accountability in my life and all that, but also like I'm in that healthy boundary. Get the hell away from me if you're not good for my energy or for my life. So, like my favorite line from that movie when uh he's talking, what's it was it, Damian Wayans? He's like, Come here, come here, bro.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I am not your damn brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Because I hate it when the when certain pigments call me bro. I don't I don't like that. I feel like when white people call me bro, I feel like you're trying to relate to me. Awesome stuff. You're trying, like you can tell I'm black, you know, even though I'm light skinned, and you're you're saying that, like, are you gonna say that to everybody? So like in my head, that that line always pops up. Like, don't don't talk to me like that. You can call me dude. We're in California. Call me by my name. But when you say bro, I feel like you're trying to, you know, you're trying to relate to my background, to my physiology. And that that line always pops up. So I've I've just been like in in that mode where if you step over those health, those boundaries that I have, I'm gonna call you Wadet. And it's not like in a villain type thing, it's more just like, uh I'm gonna bark at you.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

I thought you were gonna go with my favorite line. Do you want sympathy? Look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis, syphilis.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Hey, Corporal, tell mom fetch my field knife. I'm about to fuck some shit up. Okay. One, don't you look dumb.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Two, look at you. Three, don't you ever make no jokes about me on my back, or I'm gonna starve you to the ground.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

Okay. What is your biggest fear?

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Oh man. If you would have asked me that when I was married, it would have been being single. Uh, my biggest fear is being married.

SPEAKER_05 29:21

It's called back. I had to, I had to do that. I'm sorry. No, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

That's why you run it to a shrine?

SPEAKER_05 29:27

No, that's not me, but I just figured.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

I'll get married again one day, you know, like when I'm older. I don't recommend it. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

Uh my biggest fear The agony from both of those responses was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

And I say that shit, and I love my shit on my wife. No, we know. But I wouldn't recommend it. This shit is ghetto. I wouldn't say, but I'm like. One out of ten, do not recommend it.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

I love you, babe. This shit is ghetto.

SPEAKER_05 29:52

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Uh my biggest fear, uh, two things on a personal level, on a music level. My biggest fear on a music level is me dying before a project comes out and it not getting put out correctly, the wrong track list, not mixed, and just incomplete. That's like my I'll have a my my ghost will hunt everybody. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Turn four and five around. No, no, no. The track list was like my OCD will carry to the afterlife. So like I'm a nervous wreck right now because the album, I'm like at 99% done with the mastering. So right now, like I am cautious, I am not going out in public. Like, I need to, because if not, my my angry spirit will hunt the world and it'll it'll be bad energy. The second part is uh um not giving my kids the tools they need to survive, you know? And um or just you know, being able to tell them everything I need to tell them, teach them everything I need to teach them. Yeah, it's it's a vicious world out there. Like I I fear not being able to be there to protect them, no matter where they're at in the world, or vice versa. And you know, I just I try to stay alive and healthy for them and let them know, hey, whatever you want to do in life, just do it. If it's important to you, as long as it ain't hurt nobody, do what you do. I'll always support it. You know, and look at look at dad. Dad put his money where his mouth is. I got CDs and stores, you know, I got this and that. I got a newspaper article in my studio with me on it, Press Enterprise. I got, you know, no numerous things and whatnot. This is all because Daddy believed in himself. Because Daddy, you know, had to have the gall, the audacity to be who he was, and you guys should be who you are. And I don't want to die without letting them doing all I can to help them experience that, help the help cheerleaf, you know, advocate for it.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

I would just say, Father, father, don't don't put too much pressure on yourself because the kids don't fucking listen.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, they're on the tablet anyways.

Healing After Divorce And The Drake Debate

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

What's still one thing that you haven't healed from?

SPEAKER_00 31:47

That haven't healed from? I'm a rapper. Have you listened to the albums?

SPEAKER_04 31:53

So it's more than one? That's what I'm talking about. Like, that's more than one. I get that.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

He just said he went through his healing journey. So you had to heal from something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

But there's a lot of things we have to do. So I'm gonna I'm gonna divorcee. You know? Uh what haven't I healed from? Ooh. I don't know. I mean, that's that's a never-ending process there. Um I can say I'm I'm content and cool with myself and any flaws that I have or perceived. Like I'm I'm good. You know, um, you know, go and do a divorce or whatnot, you're always gonna have somewhat of a hole in your heart that's always gonna, you always gonna keep that with you just so you know like things in your life can change. You know, you and people that you you dedicate your life to, whatnot, I mean, they're not may not be there. Like I never knew I'd be back to where I'm at now, but like I don't I don't hold any grudges over it. You know, me and my ex-wife were cool, you know, especially like for the kids. So like I don't I don't have any regret, no ill will or nothing like that. So anything I can heal from. I don't know. Being being light skinned in the early 80s. You know, that was rough.

SPEAKER_04 32:57

I'm gonna just cause you said that, what are your feelings about light-skinned to light skin with Drake? But how do you feel about Drake? I'm just asking just because you said the intro thing, and then I it sparked a curiosity because me and Mo have talked about this. Um that intro show promise. The rest of that not so much. So when you said you did your intro last, I was wondering if that's what he did. So how do your what are your thoughts on it? This is real deep diving stuff. He exists, he's a person. He exists, he's a person. He makes music with him. Do you disassociate from him light skin to light skin? Or do you connect with him sometimes?

SPEAKER_00 33:36

I mean, like, I I kind of go through a lot of stuff that he goes through as being a light-skinned individual, you know. Um, I'm an American light-skinned, he's from Canada.

SPEAKER_05 33:45

So we're still Canadian.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

So we don't have the same experience. Like my mom's from Watts, you know. So Shout out Watts.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

You know, um you don't say Crody, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

Well, I mean, we got out there a long time ago.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

They say Crody.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

In c in Canada?

SPEAKER_04 33:59

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Say Brody is the slang, but that don't mean that that's your brother.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

This is true.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Yeah. I mean, like, there's some songs I've liked from him and whatnot. You know, as far as uh the ghostwriter thing, man, like Ice Cube is saying that uh people have been making songs by committee since the beginning. Like, damn near everybody's had a ghostwriter or helped them write a song. Um, so like I really don't measure that as far as his artistry. Like, he can deliver same way with actors. Like the actors don't write those lines, but they deliver them properly. So um, like as a as an MC though, like I don't like consider him in that same ballpark. Like, yo, he's a great actor. He acts out the music.

SPEAKER_04 34:38

I think he's yeah, I think he's a that's that's why I I think he's a good cosplay. Like, I think he does just great cosplay. He does everything what he perceives us things to be well, but I don't know if it like I don't ever believe it's him.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

But I think that I think truthfully, I feel like it's coming from perspective because like you guys are Drake is not. Yeah. So you're measuring him from an whereas like because I I'm not a huge Drake fan, but I don't dislike Drake. But I see Drake, like I don't I don't measure Drake to be like, that nigga didn't rub. Like I Drake is a fucking Drake is that Drake is to Drake is like I think he's Elvis.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Yeah, like well Elvis was a pedophile. He needs to go to jail.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

There you're going further. A lot of niggas was pedophiles. I mean, I think that Drake is literally, like you said, his artistry, like people discredit his artistry. Like Drake got hit. You whether you like them or not, Drake got hit. You think that's what I'm saying? So that's why I just feel like it'd be a lot of projection with that.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Because it's like the argument with Drake hits is that it's not necessary, no one's gonna deny the fact that he has hits. The hard part people have is his assimilation to things to stay popular. So we don't really know who Drake is. So I I say I agree, Drake is a great entertainer. Aubrey needs counseling.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

But like they all do, right? Most artists are like faking in. That's not who they are.

SPEAKER_05 36:12

I go back to Destiny's child Beyonce. Like I started being in the world.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

She shouldn't have been in front.

SPEAKER_05 36:17

This this Beyonce that has cowboy Carter and all and renaissance. I don't like that girl. I don't, that's not, but she's fucking Beyonce. And like, so they're gonna do the things, they're entertainers. That's they're not gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Yeah, like they're like a real martial artist that's never been on TV is gonna look at a martial arts movie. Right, like a whole to San Sarah's like, oh, that's a good dance that they did. Yeah, I respect that. They can't whoop me in a fight, but like I I, you know, I respect that they put that, you know, display on the mainstream. Yeah. It it's the same way, like if like you grew up like in cybers and battling this and that, like you were like a real, real musician, and you see like these well-funded orchestrated hits, like, okay, that's that's a nice production. I can respect that. We we don't do the same thing, and like I'm never gonna like, he's not gonna be a goat to me, but like I respect that you can do that at that high level and whatever this production may be.

SPEAKER_05 37:13

Yeah, but I do like what you said, Mo, because Drake introduced himself to us different.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

You change every three years.

SPEAKER_05 37:19

So I do, I I definitely respect it. Let me say this though.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Shout out to Drake for passion fruit, because that shit I've been seeing, that's been in my head the whole time you guys start talking about Drake. That's just shit hit every time.

SPEAKER_04 37:30

One of my favorite albums, a mixtapes of all time, is so far gone, but like I don't recognize that that person.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

I don't give a fuck about that, nigga. I just like the slaps. I like so far so far gone.

SPEAKER_04 37:39

I can put it so far gone multiple times and just be like, I'll fuck with this. Anyway, back to the back back back to back to the subject, man.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

It was just a I just I just I was like, you know, I legit went into listen.

Advice To His Younger Self

SPEAKER_04 37:54

What would Diesel now advise 18-year-old Diesel to do with his life and career?

SPEAKER_06 38:02

Well, I like that.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Hey man, don't waste that scholarship.

SPEAKER_06 38:08

That's smart.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Yeah, yeah. I was uh well, I was 18, you couldn't tell me nothing. Like, man, I was like, man, I'm I'm a dope rapper, I can do this and that. I was valedictorian at my high school and I got a scholarship. I don't know. Well, I went to a I graduated from continuation school, so it's like the valedictorian isn't like at the grade school. I still I still have straight A's.

SPEAKER_05 38:26

I like how you gave it to us, and you like now, let me give you a little call.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

I want to set your expectations a little bit a little lower. There was less people there. Yeah, he I would say he said that he said the pool wasn't what you think it was.

SPEAKER_06 38:41

But it still counts.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Like if you're a backyard wrestling champ, you're still the champ. Yeah. In that circle, yeah. Amen. Everybody in that circle fuck with me. Like you're the funniest kid in the sixth grade. Yeah, you that's like being the fastest person in the third grade. I'm still the fastest one. Exactly. You can still take that. I believe in you. But yeah, I would be like, hey man, don't no second guess yourself. Like, hey, you you you can get that girl. Um, don't be afraid of this. Just keep going, man. Just keep keep going. Like I was talking to uh the homie the other day, like, man, if I would tell the 12-year-old version of me or 18-year-old version of me stuff that I've done in life, it would blow his mind. So I used to be that shy kid. I never talked to anybody. I'm still socially awkward, but like I've made leaps and bounds over the years, you know. Uh I I I it would just it would just blow that person's mind because I I had no self-esteem, no confidence, no sense of self. I was I was invisible. So just to be able to tell him, like, hey, it's it's okay to be you. You can be goofy, you can be nerdy, you could be the biggest Ninja Turtle fan, you could still talk about how you love Power Rages, you know.

SPEAKER_05 39:46

You can wear Marvel pajamas.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

You can wear Marvel's pajama and still get girls. And in Detroit pajamas, too, nigga.

SPEAKER_05 39:54

I guess.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

You go see these nunchucks.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

All right, finish the sentence. Success means there. Success means happiness. The music industry is cool. My biggest lesson was believing yourself. The inland empire deserves in five years, I will be 30 something.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Damn stupid.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Benjamin, we're going back in time. The heavyweight collective should have me on regularly? You at least should have the cuff, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

All

Last Message For Dream Chasers

SPEAKER_04 40:29

right. All right, final question. If this was your last interview you gave, huh?

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Walk on wood, right? That was a long tribe. I said that's a start off morbid as shit. My birthdays in the week. I got plans.

SPEAKER_04 40:43

What's one message you leave for your fans and anyone chasing a dream?

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Oh man, wait, you asked us nothing to give us his goodbye speech without beating gold? Hey, man.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

That's cursing it, right? That's like getting your girlfriend's name tattooed, then you break up the next week. What are you doing to me?

SPEAKER_04 41:03

Nothing's promised.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Yeah. Well, knock on wood again, because I I do hope to be here for some time. I have plans today. Yeah, yeah. It's all it's all, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

I'm just saying. Anything.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Hey, it's it's okay to be you. Just do you. You know, um, it's just it's you're only gonna have you. You can't think about what other people think about you. Be whoever as you wanna, be whoever you're gonna be. If you're a goofy ball, be goofy. You know, if you care about this, care about that, do it. Just just just be you because life is short. We are not promised tomorrow. Talk to that girl, talk to that guy, apply for that job, make that song, do that thing you're gonna put off. No, do it today. Do it today. Don't worry about an album that's gonna take you 20 years to make because you're trying to save the world. No, put that shit out today, make another one next week. Just, just, just do you. It's it's okay. And also, like, love the people around you, people that show you love. It's just a cold world and they don't have to. Like, I didn't have to be here on this podcast, you know. So I'm I'm grateful for for being here. And you guys invited me into your home and you know, and give me the camaraderie and the conversation, allowing me to speak on your platform. I appreciate that. So, people that give you your time, that are present, love those people and and cherish them. Don't worry about people that don't give a damn about you. Don't get worried about the girls that are gonna reject you or guys that are gonna reject you. Don't worry about people that don't like your music, that don't like what you do. The people that show up, that are there for you, hey, hold on to them tight because it's it's a cold, dark world out there, and it it gets real, real lonely. So if you got people that can help you struggle through that darkness, you know, hold them up in the highest regard and love them fiercely.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

I was gonna say that was the end, but no, I gotta do

Top Five Michael Jackson Songs

SPEAKER_04 42:48

it. Where's your top five? It's not dead or alive, MCs. Your top five, Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_05 42:53

Oh. Ooh. I wanna go after him. I'm just like Damn.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

And about you, Otis. Damn, man. And about you, Otis.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

My absolute favorite is uh from the uh the Captain Eel movie, uh, Another Part of Me is just another part of me. You didn't have to, we knew.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

I didn't so the youngsters out there that don't know.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Bro, I saw this thing the other day where like um they're talking about like you could tell you're old when you hit this on the radio, and I definitely have a classic song from Ja Ru. Like my back started hurting, like, oh, you guys think that's old? No, that shit is old. Like, that's it's that's considered dad rap now. It's a category. Yeah, they got a whole station for it, man. Like, damn.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

They say that type of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 43:45

Hey Jay still rapping?

SPEAKER_05 43:46

Cola 99.

SPEAKER_04 43:47

That's why I listen to K Day so much, you'd be like, man.

unknown 43:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

What else should uh second one? You rock my world. Oh, I love that. That's just a banger. Uh, for that same album, uh Butterflies. That that's man, Mike Mike was smooth with that one. We're going to uh In the Closet. Stupid. Oh man, uh Fifth song, uh They Don't Care About Us.

SPEAKER_05 44:19

You went all over the place. I like that. A lot of people stay in one era of the city.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

I'm gonna be two of uh Invincible. Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Well, I fuck with that album a lot, but he's made good good music since Thriller. That's all we're gonna do. Oh, for sure, for sure. Can't ever mention Remember the Time? Remember the time. The most disrespectful video of all time.

SPEAKER_05 44:39

Best video.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

That's the most gangster shit video. I'm gonna tell you to your face, I was fucking your bitch.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

It's like the whole staff knows the dance, so he's been there numerous times. Like, hold on, you guys know him? You know, like that, those are the sounds you're gonna make back to.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

That's the back shots he was giving her. That was that when you turn that.

SPEAKER_00 45:03

He's like, do you remember at the beach when we did that thing and we went raw in the sand?

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Or I like when James Murphy really starts to it's really starting to hit.

SPEAKER_05 45:12

He's just like sitting there, he looking, he's looking at his clothes. He's like, I'm gonna kill, I'm gonna let him. Like, this shit kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03 45:19

But go on, I need to hear more of this. Teddy Riley said, he said he wrote that for his uh his to get his girl back, his wife back, and it worked.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Well, mission accomplished. You're like, damn. Well, he's like, if it would have happened to me, this I would have gone in my head.

SPEAKER_05 45:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Hey, Mike, send this to my girl.

SPEAKER_05 45:38

That's tight.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Yeah, off with

Album Date Social Handles And Goodbye

SPEAKER_00 45:41

his head.

SPEAKER_04 45:41

So knowing you for all these years and and and seeing the growth and the evolution again as a father, as an artist, um, and as you personally, um I want to say thank you for uh sitting here with us. We look forward to the album. I mean, I heard you have some dope features too. Um, but I would I do truthfully uh generally thank you for uh sitting with us and um again, what is the name of the album?

SPEAKER_00 46:09

The way I devised, it'll be out on my birthday, June 15th.

SPEAKER_04 46:15

And where can I find you on social media?

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Dz Y L5K1, and that's on everything. That's even my gaming tag on Xbox. You guys want to play Cosmic Invasion? Hit me up, let's squat up, let's do it.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

Like, subscribe, share, and comment. All that shit. This has been another edition of Talk Your Shit. Till next time, we love you. Peace. Peace.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

Sweaty. That's rap, y'all. That's that's how she wrote. So make sure you click like, subscribe. Tune in, we're on Austrian platform, so until next time. We'll holla at you.