Dating Without The Swipe

Does dating without the swipe work? Swiping promised “more options,” but it also trained us to treat people like thumbnails. We sit down in the humble backyard studio with Krista and Ricker, crack a a few beers, and stumble into a surprisingly honest conversation about modern dating, online dating apps, and what gets lost when connection becomes a quick yes or no.

Krista brings the perspective of being back in the dating world, including a bold move inviting herself into a pool game and the awkward aftermath of seeing someone again in real life. That opens the door to the bigger stuff: why texting feels safer than calling, why voicemails became “annoying,” and how fear of rejection quietly shapes how people flirt, ghost, and avoid direct conversation. We also talk about how confidence changes with age, and why older wisdom can help younger people who grew up behind screens.

Then things get spicy in the most unfiltered way possible: a debate about power, desire, and what people are really chasing when they date, plus a cameo from Rayette that tilts the whole argument. We wrap with practical, grounded advice for meeting people offline, building relationships through “third places,” and staying true to what you actually like doing instead of performing a lifestyle to land a date.

If you enjoy raw talk about communication skills, in-person dating, boundaries, and the reality of modern relationships, subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review. What do you think dating needs more of right now: better apps or better people skills?

Transcript

Backyard Studio Intro And Holiday Cheers

SPEAKER_00 0:11

From our humble backyard studio, this is the Almost Famous Radio Podcast with your host, Jeffy McJefferson. Let's go!

SPEAKER_06 0:27

And welcome to the Almost Famous Radio Podcast, Jeffy McJefferson here. The newly minted Unfiltered Conversational List. I told Ricker I was gonna- That's my new that's my new nickname. Krista.

SPEAKER_07 0:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 0:46

We got Krista here.

unknown 0:47

Woohoo!

SPEAKER_06 0:48

By the way. And we got the Ricker. Yeah, that's a that you both are on with the unfiltered conversation list. That's nonsense.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

It's not you. It's not new.

SPEAKER_06 0:58

We gotta go around the table. So do it. Love interrupting Ricker when he's trying to jack with me.

unknown 1:03

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04

Krista, what you got?

SPEAKER_03 1:06

In terms of what we're drinking?

SPEAKER_06 1:07

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Yeah, we're all cheersing with celebration on the count of the holidays.

How A Dating Talk Starts

SPEAKER_06 1:12

Ricker, celebration, go. Let's cheers. Cheers, cheers. We're cheersing on the celebration by Sierra Nevada. Sierra Nevada. So we were sitting around earlier today at Cartwrights, and we didn't even really know we were going to do a show. And we thought we thought about doing a show, but we were like, okay, I didn't I didn't have a topic. And then, well, it's just me and Rick are actually. Yeah. And then Krista came along and we started talking about dating.

SPEAKER_08 1:43

Ooh.

SPEAKER_06 1:44

Wasn't it? Isn't that what we talked about?

SPEAKER_08 1:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:47

Yeah. So enlighten us what we talked about, Krista. I'm gonna leave the floor to you right now. Go.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

Well, I think the way that it started, and correct me if I'm wrong, is I you were checking in on my recent dates. So I kind of filled you in a little bit. Yeah, I invited myself into a billiards game, took myself out on a date with this guy unsuspecting man.

SPEAKER_08 2:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:15

And then I told you about another possibility that's actually not kind of not happening. Not gonna come to fruition. I won't say more about that on here. It's too close. But yeah, we just not you, the guy's stupid ass.

SPEAKER_06 2:30

I wouldn't call okay. Clarify, I wasn't calling Krista a stupid ass. I was calling this idiot a stupid ass. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

Thank you. If I believed that you were, I would have put you right in your place. Yeah, I think there would have been a little bit I didn't perceive it that way. But yeah, so then we just started talking about, you know, the nature of dating and human interactions nowadays anymore. Yeah. And one of the big themes was the degree of connection that people have through their phones versus in person.

SPEAKER_06 3:04

And degree of difficulty.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

Yeah. Right. And then sort of kind of unfolded from.

SPEAKER_06 3:10

It's kind of like the Olympics where they have degree of difficulty on ice skating and shit. I just see that in the So we started talking about I mean Because you're newly single.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:29

Yeah. I mean, let's face it. Okay. Yes. And Ricker and I have been married.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 3:35

Long time. So we We've been married long time.

SPEAKER_03 3:43

We we started by talking about the you know the trouble with young people.

SPEAKER_08 3:49

Right.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

Younger anyway. Which you're younger than you. I'm not I'm not young by any means, but I am young younger than you are.

SPEAKER_06 3:55

Yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Well but then kind of noticing.

SPEAKER_06 3:58

More one said high there, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Kind of just noticing like the theme that there's kind of like cascades across demographics, like from teenagers to, you know, 60, 70 year olds.

SPEAKER_05 4:16

Very true.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

And then just we you gotta go online. You gotta get on an app only way versus the old-fashioned way.

SPEAKER_06 4:24

That's kind of what we're we went with. Well, not went with, but we we would start at going to hear about this stuff, you know, with her. She's kind of old school. I hate to say old because she kind of looks at me every time when I say old because she's not old. She's really young and she's very attractive.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

And so I'll I'll embrace old school. That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 4:45

And I call her an old. I call her an old soul because she's kind of is. And old soul was meant to be a compliment. Right.

SPEAKER_05 4:54

It is a compliment. Yeah. Because it's all about you're you're doing it. Your soul. Well, you're doing it like I I think, you know, as God intended. Yeah, you're basically meeting face to face. You see somebody, they're attractive, you talk to them face to face. There's no, you know, swipe left, swipe, swipe. Swipe light left and right. Yeah, I sorry. No. I'm I'm getting tongue-tied because it swiping left and right is not in my vocabulary. It's not in your freaking jacket. Yeah, it doesn't work for me.

Why Swiping Feels Dehumanizing

SPEAKER_03 5:34

When when you were in line, Jeff, uh Ricker and I were talking about that a little more. Like the whole idea of swiping feels a lot like online shopping and like depersonalizing people, like dehumanizing. Like now you're looking for a product rather than you know, meeting a person as a human being the old-fashioned way. Very understanding, and that's now we're shopping for people.

SPEAKER_06 6:00

Very good point.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

It literally is. That that's what it it feels like to me is that that's what you're doing is you you're just looking at surface. That's it. That's you know, does it say made in USA? Is it, you know, does it have a description or is it just a face?

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Yeah, or do you want the red one, the green one, the yellow one?

SPEAKER_06 6:23

Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, if you know, to me with the swipe left, swipe right, I don't even know because I don't even know, I don't use them. But you know it's it's I don't want to say degrading. It is, though.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

But I think it yes, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_05 6:39

I think it's degrading on both ends.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:43

The person who's doing it is degrading themselves, and the person who puts themselves out there as a photo is degrading themselves. I I think it's dehumanizing both ways.

SPEAKER_06 6:55

Yeah, because I'm a guy. And and then I I know the guy mentality. And say that you're you're on a dating app, but you're not.

SPEAKER_08 7:03

Right.

SPEAKER_06 7:04

And it's a it's gonna be a swipe left, swipe right. Basically, and most most dudes being a guy, Ricker, could probably vouch for this. Because it's like, are you gonna put out?

SPEAKER_03 7:19

You're gonna oh, I just I mean, start with you're gonna make a visual assessment right away.

SPEAKER_06 7:25

Yeah. I mean straight away.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Yeah, and then you're gonna go to that next question. Are you gonna put out how available are you? If you look like you do, you know, and these guys are gonna go like, well, hey, let's get together and let me show you what I'm working with in a disgusting way.

SPEAKER_06 7:42

Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

Yeah, gross. I would never subject myself to it. But it's part of the reason I would never subject myself to it.

SPEAKER_06 7:49

That's kind of what seems like it's going on now.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

It is. It is.

SPEAKER_05 7:53

It definitely does. It seems like it's it's a meat market. That's what it is, man. You're just looking for somebody to hook up with it. Well, meat markets back in the day.

SPEAKER_06 8:06

Well, I were bars that you go and women went to. And no, I'm just clarifying this. Right. But I mean that it was. It was like, hey, you go to a bar and then it was like it's it's you're just looking to yeah, you're gonna score or not.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

Yeah. That's it. But I mean when you're scrolling through pictures, you know, basically you're it's a meat market. You're just looking for whoever's attractive to you and hoping like hell that they respond to you. I I I that's the only thing I can think of. But I, you know, again, I have no idea because that just seems to be the way it's gone.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

My my example is.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

I don't have any personal experience with it, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

There's been kind of like an evolution in the app landscape. So there used to be apps that were known for hookups. So if you go on that app, that's what you the expectation is for both parties. Grinder, Tinder used to be that way. I don't know very many others because I don't already use them. Yeah, I'm old older than really most people that are using them. But it but it used to be like that bar that you know you're going to looking for a hookup, and it's very likely.

SPEAKER_08 9:24

Right.

SPEAKER_06 9:24

And then they started kind of decommingle people looking for relationships on Tinder or hoping for them and wonder what the I wonder what the ratio is, like from looking to looking to get a piece of ass to looking for a relationship is on these apps. I wonder what that is. I don't know. I haven't looked that up. I don't know. We don't know. I I I have no clue. But what would you guess? Either of you, what you gotta guess?

SPEAKER_03 9:56

I think it depends very directly on the app.

SPEAKER_06 10:00

I say 70% looking for a piece of ass to 30% relationship.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

That's why I say it depends on the app. Because there are some apps that are targeted explicitly towards older people who might really be looking for a relationship or at least companionship. But things like Tinder and Grinder, those are for younger people to hook up.

SPEAKER_08 10:23

Yeah. That's what I was talking about. I don't think there is.

SPEAKER_06 10:29

I don't think there's a good percentage of guys that go on there to look for a relationship on Tinder. And I don't know. And you know, if anybody could tell me, let me know. I sure the fuck don't know. Because I'm not on them. You're not on them, Ricker's not on them.

Rejection Stories And Prom Fallout

SPEAKER_05 10:46

Well, I my question is nowadays, because you know, young males don't really want to talk to females. They just want to look. I wonder if they are looking for relationships, you know, the young, young ones, and they just don't know how to other than through their phone. That's it. That's all they know. Yeah, but I mean they don't want to d they want the finding a relationship or finding a woman that they could be with without the hassle of being freaking dumped on. You know what I mean? Because we all got freaking, you know, at some point you get shot down and it freaking sucks.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

I asked a boy to Sadie Hawkins. I had just moved to a new school my junior year, and there was a real cute boy. And I thought I would stick my neck out and ask him to go to Sadie Hawkins with me.

SPEAKER_06 11:51

Because that's the way it works. Right. Sadie Hawkins. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

I thought I was pretty cute at the time, and but he nonetheless he said no. But then he asked me out to our senior prom.

SPEAKER_06 12:03

And you said fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

No, I went with him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Because he got to know me across time. I wasn't a stranger anymore. We got to we were in classes together. He got to know me like and and you know. But we had the benefit of like in-person interviews.

SPEAKER_06 12:20

Was it me or should you have not have given him the time of day after he flat said no. Well But I know you liked the guy. You're like, he was cute and uh.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

Well we ended up like buddies.

SPEAKER_06 12:33

And he was like totally just said eh.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

I don't know. I thought there was like some kind of a nice karmic circle that happened there.

SPEAKER_05 12:42

You know, I'm I'm I'm with you. I I think that, you know, w when when you're young, as a as a male, when you're young, you tend to make really stupid decisions. And you grow out of making stupid decisions to only making less stupid decisions.

SPEAKER_06 13:04

Yeah, because I can't tell you how many times we said, oh, let's go get a 12-pack of beer and let's go see if we can find a woman. Yeah. And 99.9% of the time, we just drink a 12-pack of beer. That's it. Nope.

SPEAKER_05 13:19

Literally.

SPEAKER_06 13:20

And that was it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And that's well, hey, you know, that's uh kudos to you for at least seeing past seeing the dumbassy. The rejection. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Well, I mean, why do you think I'm inviting myself onto my own dates? I'm still doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 13:39

Yeah, well, I guess you are.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

I'm not getting a real far, but how'd it go at prom? At prom? Well to spoil that lovely story.

SPEAKER_08 13:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Our friends ended up like trading prom partners. And Good Lord. So they they like hooked up with each other. But I was well, whatever. Your guy went with I wasn't in a relationship with him or something. No, I mean your guy you went to the prom with. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:10

Said on prom night hooked up with somebody else.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

Okay. Well, he ended up being a a scumbag to begin with. I think the first, you know, the first notion of it.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

But I don't really believe that's a good idea. But you traded with another guy? So my other best friend, Sam, had it had a date, and those two hit it off. My date and my friend Sam.

SPEAKER_06 14:36

Sam a boy, Sam a girl.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

A boy.

SPEAKER_06 14:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

Yeah. And they hit it off, and we were just sort of like, okay, well, we're at prom. Who gives a shit? You know? We're still gonna have a good time, you know. Who cares? We're not in relationships with these people. Like it was not that deep. So I didn't feel really offended. I wasn't in a relationship with this guy.

SPEAKER_05 14:59

No, but no, but it's still, you know, the timing part of it is kind of sucky. You're at prom and you ask him for the else. Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

I just didn't take it personally.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

Okay. Maybe at some point you need to start taking it personally.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Well, I was surrounded by friends that like I was ha already having fun. Like I wasn't banking my whole prom night on On him? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Okay. So it was no skin off my back. That's fine. Go forth and prosper, you know?

SPEAKER_05 15:35

That's fine. Just seems kind of Well, yeah, it's a little atypical or irritating.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Maybe even rude. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 15:44

I'd say rude would be probably a good thing and your friends should have set this asshole up.

SPEAKER_06 15:49

It's a hey, you know.

SPEAKER_05 15:51

Yeah, I yeah, it kind of seems like you should have freaking, you know, at some point got me with them. I mean, I've seen enough, I've seen enough rom coms, that's what's supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

He wasn't an asshole. You know, he just had a crush on another girl.

SPEAKER_05 16:06

And but why did he say yes to you? No, no, he yes. That's why I'm saying why did he ask you if he was, you know, pining for somebody else? That that's my that's my thing. Why why dick you around when question when you know he was really after your friend.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I don't I mean, I don't think he dicked me around because we were friends. We had on on Mondays, we had a bad movie Mondays where we would choose like movies with one star rating and we would hang out like we were buddies.

SPEAKER_05 16:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:41

So it was kind of like, you know, sometimes friends go to prom together. And it's not romantic.

SPEAKER_05 16:47

And it wasn't?

SPEAKER_03 16:49

No.

SPEAKER_05 16:49

Okay. Well, if it wasn't romantic, then I guess, you know. Yeah. I guess that's all good.

SPEAKER_06 16:54

And I wasn't hoping for it to be like Still Man, I was if I was you would have got one of my friends to say, hey, let's fuck with this guy.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

Well, I would have gotten the way of that because I wouldn't have to be a good one. Not fucking.

SPEAKER_06 17:05

Let's just just assume.

SPEAKER_05 17:09

Just a little bit, you know. Not not not scarring something.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

My friend was more upset than I was. He was crying in the hallway of the hotel that we were staying at.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

So the one who was with the girl that he was with? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

So that gets too much.

SPEAKER_05 17:24

Well, you should at least you got to console him, you know.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Yeah, it made me available emotionally. That's probably why I'm a therapist now.

SPEAKER_05 17:31

Probably. Probably. That that was it. We found that we we found the inflection point.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

That's when it started. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:38

So what happened to that guy that got all butthurt and so bad? Did he turn gay?

SPEAKER_03 17:43

No, he did become an Orthodox Jew. He moved to Israel.

SPEAKER_05 17:48

Oh, that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

But Yeah, he went on his birthright and got married and had a six kids and Wow.

SPEAKER_08 17:58

Yes. So he's fine too. Obviously. I thought he was gonna be a gay guy. Nope. Good luck, Jeffy.

SPEAKER_05 18:10

He went to his homeland. When his homeland?

SPEAKER_02 18:14

From once he came.

SPEAKER_05 18:15

Yes. Yes it is. You're a Jew, Israel is your homeland.

SPEAKER_06 18:19

Well, I mean, I'm saying he was from here. Okay. Well anyway.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Yeah. Huh?

SPEAKER_06 18:26

But it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

That's that's debatable depending on what's going on.

SPEAKER_06 18:29

So how was your dating life and shit like that? You didn't have to go through that kind of crap, did you, Ricker?

SPEAKER_05 18:35

I didn't really have one, so it was pretty easy.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

Oh, so you did you not ask girls out? I was Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_05 18:43

Painfully shy. Painfully.

SPEAKER_06 18:46

Same here. Believe it or not.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

Oh, I know. I heard about the regular girls that you were interested in.

SPEAKER_06 18:52

Regular.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

Regular. Regular. Regular.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:56

No, I'm saying that you know. Yeah, I was painfully shy. Still am, but you know, I've kind of gotten somewhat over it.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

So did any girls ever ask you guys out or like hit on you or flirt with you?

SPEAKER_08 19:11

No. Yeah. A few. A few. But it's like it never amounted to anything, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Why?

SPEAKER_06 19:21

Because I wasn't I'm an idiot. And so it's true.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

No, not not is an idiot wasn't. Well, the well the the is part is debatable. I was for sure. I was an idiot. For sure back then, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:39

Yeah, like he said, painfully shy, man. When you're a painfully shy guy, girls like go, yeah, like this guy. He has no confidence in society. Yeah, right.

Shyness, Confidence, And Taking Risks

SPEAKER_03 19:48

But do you know there are other painfully shy girls that are looking at the painfully shy boys, and you guys are just like, it's a cold war, you're at a standstill.

SPEAKER_05 19:58

Well, they didn't come to me. That that's your you're you're freaking dropping your your your hat as a therapist on us, and it's way, way too late for that. I mean, I have no idea. You would have if you would have had if you would have had that back then, maybe it might have done something, but probably as being a painfully shy kid, I I don't think it would have mattered one bit.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

I wish honestly that I was like I am now back then. I I do too, but it you can't. You know, but if you don't I know you can't. But it it's life experience that puts you where you are. Where's Doc Brown and fucking Michael J. Fox with that god dang back to the future machine with that DeLorean? Yeah. I'd like to go back and just like go, hey, you know what? You're a fucking pussy. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Well, no, I would that's that's not a kind way to talk to your past self.

SPEAKER_05 21:00

Well, but but it's a true way.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

But here but here's the thing. This is where I think that it's not kind. It's really cool that you know, you can use those kinds of insights. And this is like why I told you in the last podcast. I like to hang out with older people because they have a lot of insights and and reflect about their life. You can just impart that kind of wisdom on you know, the next generation. These kids that are hiding away in their phone. You might feel like you're shy, and that's the only way that you can talk to a girl is on Instagram. But just try it. Just like push yourself a little bit, see what happens.

SPEAKER_06 21:39

Okay, we were painfully shy. I know I was, but I still tried. I was too. I tried. And I had I had girlfriends and stuff like that. Uh, don't get me wrong. I didn't stay at home and and freaking Oh, what was that? Well, that was me. That was an act that was. It wasn't an accident.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

Oh God.

SPEAKER_06 22:04

It was an incident. Sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

So it happens.

SPEAKER_06 22:08

Yeah. I didn't sit home and getting, you know, my you know, right arm and looking like Popeye. Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

But yeah, working out.

SPEAKER_06 22:16

Yeah, the workout. But you know, I tried and stuff like that. It's just that I always was I guess I was sort of afraid to fail. Is that easy?

SPEAKER_05 22:28

Is that a yeah? That's it. You're scared to put yourself out there because you know, you know, 80% of the time you're gonna get shot.

SPEAKER_06 22:37

Yeah. That's part why didn't that's probably what I didn't they you know try for cheerleaders. That's what you're saying. I didn't try for cheerleaders.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

That's the same reason Ricker didn't.

SPEAKER_06 22:48

Well, hell, you know, it's like we were talking about Ricker and I, it's it's a lottery. You know, if you if you play the lottery and you win, you're like, hell yeah. But how many times do you lose playing the lottery? And that's why I didn't want to try for cheerleaders because you're more of a bird in the hand guy. Well, other things.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Yeah, right. The aforementioned workouts.

SPEAKER_06 23:15

Right. I didn't call it a bird, but anyway. Yeah, and so I didn't, I didn't you didn't put yourself off. I didn't try for cheerleaders and shit like that. That's why that's why like like we said last podcast, I was ringing.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Well, you were you're talking about trying to date cheerleaders? Yeah. Oh, for a second there, I thought you were talking about trying out for being a cheerleader.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jeffy is a cheerleader. That scares the hell out of me. I don't fit into those skirts. Yeah. Although he does have legs full.

SPEAKER_03 23:53

Look at it. I misunderstood. Very I misunderstood.

SPEAKER_05 23:57

Try out for cheerleaders.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Big time.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

Yeah. That that was a misunderstanding. I didn't try. I thought where are the cheerleaders? Yeah. No. Yeah. After going after going after the cheerleader.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Here's the thing is that you said in the previous podcast that that was not necessarily your type. Because I didn't So I didn't imagine you trying to approach a cheerleader. If that's the thing.

SPEAKER_06 24:22

Well, that's why they won my type, because I figured no way.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

That's why.

SPEAKER_06 24:25

Yeah. Yeah, there's no way. I mean. Yeah, cheerleaders go after quarterbacks. Sorted dudes. Sort, you know, different guys, you know, regular, you know, not regular guys, but guys that are man, am I stereo? Top tier guys.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Here's the thing, it's like in high school you don't appreciate that in adulthood, you're gonna look back at the quarterbacks and the cheerleaders, and really they're normal people. They're not everything that they were exalted to be as cheerleaders and jocks. Well, we didn't, you know. It seemed so exalted at the time.

SPEAKER_06 25:10

The the How many quarterbacks did you try for?

SPEAKER_03 25:14

None, because I was into regular guys.

SPEAKER_06 25:16

Thank you. Right. That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

But like once you get out of high school, that none of that status matters anymore.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

It doesn't, but you uh when you're in high school, that's all that matters. Not to me to you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I look you're kind of missing the point of it. It's not so much that there because there's not a lot of difference here, you know, just because of the age, it's still the same social circles that happen in high school. I I don't care how, you know, it could have been 1810 or 2010. It doesn't matter because there's still a hierarchy of you know, kids.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

If you subscribe to it, I didn't subscribe to that. Okay, I get that, but for the most part I know that that's still a thing. Pervasive, yes.

SPEAKER_05 26:19

Okay.

unknown 26:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:20

And kids still have to deal with that. And and my thing is I think that they they deal with it by, you know, the ones who are not outgoing and and you know, self-confident. They f that they want to use the phone.

Phone Calls, Texting, And Voicemail

SPEAKER_06 26:38

That's what they want to do Yeah, they'll they'll go like, okay, uh That's that's how they operate.

SPEAKER_05 26:43

It's way easier.

SPEAKER_06 26:44

There's text and you know, and they do that kind of, you know, hey, let's give me your phone number back then didn't mean give you your phone number now.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

No.

SPEAKER_06 26:53

You had to actually pick up the fucking phone.

SPEAKER_05 26:56

The the 16-foot cord that you had to take outside because you didn't want anybody at the house.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

What if your mom or your dad answered the phone? Yeah, that's Hey, is Ricker there?

SPEAKER_05 27:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

I talked to Ricker. Can Ricker come out and play?

SPEAKER_05 27:09

There was no Ricker back then, but okay.

SPEAKER_06 27:11

That's his Did you have your own phone in high school?

unknown 27:18

No.

SPEAKER_06 27:19

We uh luckily we you know what? I think my parents gave us our own phone so they could take it away from us.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

Oh that's a that's an advanced maneuver.

SPEAKER_06 27:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:31

I mean that would throw it out there to pull it back.

SPEAKER_06 27:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:35

And we had a phone, and then and all you had to do is just pull the cord and goodbye phone.

SPEAKER_05 27:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:42

You can't do that now with cell phones.

SPEAKER_05 27:44

No.

SPEAKER_06 27:44

Well, you can take the cell phones, I guess, if you wanted. But they'll figure out another way.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

That's it. They'll use their friend's cell phone to freaking call somebody or never call, excuse me. Text somebody.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Never call. That's another thing.

SPEAKER_05 28:01

There is no such thing as a freaking voice.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

People tell me all the time they don't listen to voicemails. Don't waste your time on a voicemail.

SPEAKER_06 28:12

And remember when voicemails were okay?

unknown 28:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:16

When they were important, it's like, okay, I'm gonna tell you what I need from you. This is why I'm leaving this message.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

And now it's I appreciate them because then I know why this person called me. Yeah, even if I just read the text, uh the voice to text thing.

SPEAKER_05 28:32

Right.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Then I know I know why they called me in the urgency of getting back to them.

SPEAKER_05 28:37

That's it. It's the urgency. You can you can prioritize one, two, three, four. This is important, this sucks, this is garbage, you know, from the voicemail. And, you know, kids don't again, they don't do it. It's all tax.

SPEAKER_08 28:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:55

It's all freaking play on the phone. Kind of have a they kind of have a point because voicemails do get irritating. They do.

SPEAKER_05 29:04

They do because there's, you know, there's always the run-on.

SPEAKER_06 29:08

I mean, not every voicemail. I'm not saying every voicemail, Krista. You're shaking your head.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

I know. I must be some kind of a mutant. I love a voicemail.

SPEAKER_06 29:16

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_05 29:18

That's that's fine, but they're we we get them. Uh go ahead. I think you should tell the shop story because if it's work-related, that's different. But that's 90% of the calls you get.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

I love a voicemail. I have voicemails on my phone from 2023 because I just can't let go of them because I love to hear my friends and family, like their nice messages. I hang on to that shit.

SPEAKER_05 29:44

Well, that's cool. I've got a few from people that are no longer with us. That's I keep them. Exactly. But that's about it.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

And can you imagine if they didn't leave that message, if they just hung up?

SPEAKER_08 29:58

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

That's why I think it's cool that people leave voicemails.

SPEAKER_08 30:02

Yeah. It is.

SPEAKER_06 30:04

I hang up. I I leave voicemail, but it's not very often. Because I know if if anyb if I call anybody, they see my number. It goes to voicemail. I'm like, fuck this. Okay, because I'll get an answer. Right. And I'm saying, what good's voicemail?

SPEAKER_05 30:28

Well, most of the time, again, like I said, you know, they see your number if they if if they see that you called, they'll just call back if it's, you know, if it's somebody you care about, and if if it isn't anybody you care about, fuck them.

SPEAKER_08 30:43

Literally. Who cares?

SPEAKER_05 30:47

What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_08 30:49

Fuck 'em?

SPEAKER_05 30:50

Well, I mean, I'm just saying as far as if it depends whose number it is. If you see if you see somebody's number come up, they call you, or they text you and or well, call you, and they were going to leave an email but or a voicemail, but they don't. If they don't leave a message, but it's somebody important to you, you'll call back, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Especially if they send a follow-up text, hey, checking in about X, Y, or Z, or hey, do you have time to talk?

SPEAKER_08 31:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

Then Yeah. I will call them back. But if they just leave no voicemail, I'm like, well, I'll try again a different day. Or do you go like But if they did leave a voicemail that gave me more context and information, I'd be more likely to call them back.

SPEAKER_06 31:43

So if the if the if the call goes to voicemail, do you do what I do?

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Me?

unknown 31:48

No.

SPEAKER_06 31:49

No, no, no, no, no, hang on. If the if uh if I make a call and it goes to voicemail and I just text them after that and go, does it hurt you to pick up your fucking phone?

SPEAKER_03 32:06

Depends who you're sending it to.

SPEAKER_06 32:09

Does it hurt to pick up a fucking phone? Or it's not hard nowadays.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

It really depends who you're sending the side.

SPEAKER_05 32:15

Well, the other thing is, you know, you have a menu. If you see somebody calling you and you can't answer the phone, you can always hit Oh, that bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

I'm busy. Can I call you back? I'll call you right back.

SPEAKER_05 32:31

I'll call you right back. That's what I always do. I freaking hit that so it it sends a message and then do you call back to follow through? Okay, then I'll wife or my father, so it's pretty easy to call them. I didn't even know there was one.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Me either, because it wasn't.

SPEAKER_05 32:49

Oh, I hit it all the time. It doesn't matter though. If if if somebody calls you and you don't want you can't answer because you're in the middle of a conversation, it's better to freaking send them a message and say, I'll call you right back just to be freaking, you know, just to let them know, hey, I'm in the middle of something. And they know.

SPEAKER_06 33:12

Getting back to the dating. I mean, especially like if you're if you're getting to side by getting well, no, if you know, it's still kind of like this. So Krista is in is in the dating world right now. I'm not saying she's looking, so don't fucking don't say that too loud. Chris is in the dating world right now.

SPEAKER_08 33:32

But it's exploratory. Yeah. So it's exploratory.

SPEAKER_05 33:36

But surgery.

SPEAKER_03 33:38

So it really is.

SPEAKER_06 33:41

If you get a if you get a okay, so say you're with Jerry and you get a call from Nick. Okay. Hey, do you text Nick, say, hey, I'm with Jerry right now. I'll call you back later.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

First of all, I can never imagine a scenario like that.

SPEAKER_06 33:57

I'm just asking. I'm just asking if that's that could happen. It could happen. What would you do if that happened? Fuck you, Nick. I'm with Jerry. No, I'm saying if you were with Jerry.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

Oh, I need more context.

SPEAKER_06 34:13

Saying if you were with Jerry right now on a date.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

On a date. Is it a first date?

SPEAKER_06 34:18

Could have been first, could have been third.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

Okay, me. So me and Jerry on a date.

SPEAKER_06 34:23

Well, if you want to call him Gary, that's fine too.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Jerry, Gary.

SPEAKER_06 34:25

Gary, Jerry. Larry. Doesn't matter. Larry. Okay. Harry.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

All right. And then Nick calls me.

SPEAKER_06 34:32

Nick calls. Nick. Yeah. Nick says, hey, what's up, baby? Bebe? Did you say Bebe? What's up, Bebe?

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Hey, hey, what are you up to?

SPEAKER_06 34:44

What you up to, baby? Do you go as you as we were talking about?

SPEAKER_03 34:48

I'm out with Larry and Gary.

SPEAKER_06 34:50

Do you go as we were talking before? Do you do the new phone who dis?

SPEAKER_03 34:56

Oh, new yeah, new phone who dis.

SPEAKER_06 34:59

And Nick's fucked. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

Well, I mean, I would like to think that I would be a little bit more discerning about first of all, who like we're dumb. Mindful and intentional about who has my phone number. Like the odds are that I'm not going to have two dudes.

SPEAKER_06 35:18

Well, Nick does. And you're with Gary, Jerry, Larry, or Harry. One of 'em. New phone who's dis New Phone who dis. Right.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Yeah. I'm not just gonna be going out there willy-nilly like that.

SPEAKER_06 35:34

So do you call Nick back and go, hey, lit Nick, sorry, man.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

I mean These other roads at one time.

SPEAKER_06 35:45

Later. Do you call the guy and say, hey.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

Well, let's see how things go with Larry, Gary, Gary, and Mo.

SPEAKER_06 35:54

And Larry and Mo and Curly, you know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Yeah, if that doesn't work out, then I'll call Nick.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

Yeah, but Nick's like laying out in the weeds, man. He's like fucked, isn't he?

SPEAKER_02 36:06

He's what?

SPEAKER_06 36:07

He's fucked, because you and you were, you know, we were like, hey.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

Um you may be, but it's only later after I explore my other possibilities.

SPEAKER_06 36:20

Nick's sitting at home with a National Geographic and a bottle of Jergens. And you're out with guys.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

You you know what? You had me at National Geographics. And then when he went to Jurgens, uh no.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

That was the end of it.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

I'm over Nick.

unknown 36:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

Yeah. I don't know if you can be over Nick. Maybe you might be at a box of tissues. Maybe Nick's over you at this point. I don't know. This is kind of this is kind of scary at this point. Well, this is what happens when you get when you get Jeffy making these scenarios up in his own mind. See, you you need to freaking just realize that if Jeffy gets to pose the story, uh, you're you're out of control.

SPEAKER_03 37:07

No, well, Nick is at he he's at the back of the line. I don't know what to tell him.

SPEAKER_06 37:11

But he's not gonna tell you that he has a National Geographic in a bottle of jurgis.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

I should hope not.

SPEAKER_06 37:16

Yeah. Do they still make jergins?

SPEAKER_05 37:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 37:20

Yeah, they do.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

Okay. I'm I'm just Well, how about Vaseline?

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:24

You know It's in the song. I don't they have to make it still.

SPEAKER_06 37:28

Yeah, so so if you know he's this poor guy that's in the home.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Well, here's the thing. Jerry, Larry, Moe, and Gary and whom whomever else and Nick, they're not all created equal.

SPEAKER_08 37:42

No.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

So I would prioritize spending time with one of them.

SPEAKER_08 37:46

Right.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

I'm not invested in seven dudes. Like this is not like Snow White and the seven dudes. You know.

SPEAKER_05 37:56

Snow White and the Seven Dudes. There you go, Jeffy. We got your answer.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

I would hone in on one of them.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

That I find is the most you know feasible.

SPEAKER_08 38:09

Possible. Desirable. Yeah, but poor Nyx left out in the cold.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Well, that's a tough one. I don't know. Sometimes that's just a tough one.

SPEAKER_06 38:22

Well, you gotta you just gotta let him go.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

At least he's gonna jurgens and his shoes with aloe.

SPEAKER_06 38:28

Box of tissue. Yeah, with aloe.

unknown 38:30

Naturally.

SPEAKER_06 38:32

Well that that sounds fine, right? Yeah, hopefully he didn't have a hopefully he didn't have a box of tissue laced with Vic's vapor rub.

SPEAKER_05 38:40

Oh boy, that would that would be painful. That's not good. But of course, you know, at that point he'd probably never have to worry about not breathing.

SPEAKER_06 38:51

But if he had a cold, he's okay.

SPEAKER_05 38:54

He's got enough vapor rub to keep keep keep his freaking vapor rub laced.

SPEAKER_06 39:01

Yeah. Kleenex.

SPEAKER_03 39:02

Oh no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 39:04

He could he can, you know, he can get over that cold. Yeah.

unknown 39:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:07

He's good to go.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Public service announcement for little kids. Don't use vapor rub to rub. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 39:14

Oh, no, absolutely not. This is well, this is not a child friendly freaking podcast ever.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Just in case it ends up in the wrong hands.

SPEAKER_06 39:24

Yeah.

unknown 39:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:26

Wrong hands, all right. Yeah. If you're a kid and the same thing. Somebody knows somebody. If you're a kid in the same situation as you're a kid in the same situation as Nick, don't use Vicks Vapo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

No, remember Jurgens. This this podcast is sponsored by Jurgens.

SPEAKER_06 39:43

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sponsored by Jurgens up Vix Vapor Rub.

SPEAKER_05 39:47

Yeah. Well, let's keep it that way. Yikes. That's stuff for you. Jeffy always goes side tangent out of control.

SPEAKER_08 39:58

That's the way the show works. That's the fun of it.

SPEAKER_05 40:01

Oh, it's fun, all right.

SPEAKER_06 40:04

Go ahead, Jeffy. I'm just saying. It it works that way sometimes. Sometimes. So anyway, back to do we we started with dating, didn't we? Okay.

Real-Life Community At Cartwrights

SPEAKER_05 40:16

I think we started with dating in this era. In this era. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Yeah. And then the other thing we were talking about too was just like human interactions in general.

SPEAKER_07 40:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

You know?

unknown 40:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Do it do you shake people's hands any longer when you meet them? Do you look somebody in the eye? Do you order from a server and not a QR code? You know? Like what the fuck is happening with human interactions in general?

SPEAKER_06 40:45

But see.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

Even outside of dating.

SPEAKER_06 40:49

I'll start with that, if you don't mind, Ricker. Go for it. That's my language I said about with a human interaction thing. Sure. No, I don't have jerkens at the table at Cartwright.

unknown 41:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 41:01

Jerkins. But anyway. But yeah, I mean, let's let's take cartwrights, for instance, and and then our quote unquote table, who's the table actually started this podcast. Right. But we all met each other. Well, not you and me, right? But you know, Krista, you did. Jody and everybody else, and stuff like that. But you know, and now we we interact all the time there. You didn't know me from Adam or Nick.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Definitely not Mo.

SPEAKER_06 41:36

You didn't know me from Nick. No. Yeah. So what do you think about that dynamic? About how how how how we all came together and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Well, I think the interesting thing about that table is because this is human interaction or thing you were talking about. Yes, exactly. I think one part of it is the regularity. That if you see the same people regularly, and it like that your interactions become normalized and you start to feel safer with people and trust them. And then the interrelational dynamics too, like me and Carolyn are friends, you and Carolyn are friends, Rayette and Carolyn are friends. They share pictures of their underpants, you know? And so like the interactions kind of like triangulate to form this like group of people that you feel safe around. And you've known them across time, and with time you get to know them more intimately.

SPEAKER_06 42:47

But how damn cool is it?

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Really cool.

SPEAKER_06 42:50

It is. You know, because this this wasn't brought together by text and things like that. That was all it was all this show was not brought together by text and apps and shit like that. This is this is what the whole thing was premised on. And and you're you know, you've joined the fold, Krista, and even Ricker, because I mean nobody would really wanted to be on it.

SPEAKER_08 43:19

No.

SPEAKER_06 43:20

Not really. I thought I was gonna be a solo fool. Rayette didn't want to be on it. Believe it or not. I think the only person that would have really wanted to be on was Jody Jody. Jody's Jody, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:32

Jody Jody likes talking, so it's all good. She's a natural with a mic. Well, it is. She's a natural with with a microphone and she likes it. God knows I would never, ever, ever have thought Katie would have been on. That's crazy because she is hard to get to talk, period. A little bit without a mic. A little bit of the grape helps her out. It does, but I mean, even at that, she doesn't she's Not a very she doesn't talk a lot.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

And she don't hug. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

No. Well, here's the thing. What I've I I I don't know Katie that intimately, but what I've come to I could be wrong. What I've come to perceive about her is that she has a lot to say when there's an opening. Like a window and somebody that's she'll go. Like intentionally listening. You know, she's not gonna butt in to a conversation.

SPEAKER_06 44:39

Depends on how many cans of wine she has. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Well, yeah. And she's also she's different from Jody, you know, just temperamentally.

SPEAKER_05 44:48

But that doesn't mean that she's absolutely they're they're freaking night and day different.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

That doesn't mean that she doesn't have, you know, thoughts that she wants to share either.

SPEAKER_05 44:58

No, it she does. A lot of times she shares them unsolicited.

SPEAKER_06 45:03

Yeah. She pretty much hammers Ricker.

SPEAKER_05 45:06

Yeah. But that's okay because it's fun. It's great. It's a lot of fun. She's freaking, you know. She hangs more shit on this guy. Yeah. And it's fun. Than anybody. Everybody, everybody likes it. I like it. It's it's fun. She likes it.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

You got a little uh masochist side to you? No, that's a sadist, right? It's which is the one that likes Victoria.

SPEAKER_05 45:29

Masochist. Masochist. You're right. Okay. But no, it's it's fun because I like her and she likes freaking jamming me up, and we all enjoy it. It's fun. And I, you know, I give it back. It's not a big deal. And nobody gets hurt. It's all it's all in good fun.

SPEAKER_06 45:47

You could even you could even go into the dating concept to say that we were all like, or most of us were single, or shit like that, on there. And then that that probably would work with all of us, you know, being at the table and shit like that and doing that kind of stuff. Yeah, kinda.

SPEAKER_05 46:09

Kind of because it's all it was all organic. It it just happened because everybody started talking to each other.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

See, it's good fun, it's good banter. Yeah, that's it. Differences of opinion, different temperaments, different personality styles.

SPEAKER_06 46:25

Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. Rather than a fucking group text.

SPEAKER_03 46:29

But yes. Or if you were to like try to find friends on an app. I mean, let's be honest, you're probably looking for somebody like yourself.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

Yeah, and you know what? That that is that's a good point because we're comfortable and you it's we're all pretty different. You could probably say we're all we all have a lot of differences. I mean, Brad and I are probably as similar as it gets, and we're still a lot a lot different. Yeah. I mean, it's two people go. I mean, we're from the same state, we kind of like the same things in the same trade, and yet we're worlds apart. We're not the same people. And we're probably at that table as close as two, you know, two people can be as far as temperamentally in that.

SPEAKER_06 47:25

But 'cause to be honest with you, you're Christy, you're the newest one to the group, even though you've known Carolyn and stuff like that, but you can come to the table.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

And Well, there was a reason for that, but I was adjacent like at the What There's re I become available as an individual.

SPEAKER_07 47:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:50

Right? Okay. So I would pop by the table and and talk to y'all and I just couldn't sit there with you guys and have the same kind of relationship because I was in a relationship that was prohibitive of allowing me to do that.

SPEAKER_06 48:08

Okay, but I get it. Excuse me. And that's yeah, I g okay, okay. Which sucks, but I I get it.

SPEAKER_05 48:19

Yeah. But that's not the case anymore.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

Right.

SPEAKER_06 48:23

So you know I think that when you first started coming to the table after everything happened. Your probation every period got over with. If you want to call it that. Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_08 48:43

You know, and and I've seen you evolve big time with the group. Which is cool.

SPEAKER_06 48:52

And there you go. When you we have the human interaction as you were talking about same with dating wise. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I didn't I did tell Eric that to stick that growler up his ass. That you requested, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

Did he return it?

SPEAKER_06 49:14

Well, he said let him hold on to it for a while. Well, no, he said that uh he had to have like uh a lube.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Oh, wait.

SPEAKER_06 49:23

He didn't voice. He sure did.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

He's gonna hear it. Is he gonna hear this? I'm gonna get in trouble for this.

SPEAKER_06 49:27

No, I already told him straight up.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

You did? You saw me, Jeff?

SPEAKER_05 49:32

Sure. It's not so much telling on you as telling for you. Well, I didn't say you said that. I said I was told to stick this up your ass. Telling for you?

SPEAKER_03 49:45

No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_05 49:46

Oh, sure. Sure. It's Jaffy. You should know better. If you put it in his ear, it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06 49:54

Oh no, it w I didn't he'd not I didn't tell her that you said it.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

Is that why he charged me extra today?

SPEAKER_06 50:01

Did he charge you extra?

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Is that why the veggie sandwich keeps getting messed up?

SPEAKER_06 50:05

The veggie sandwich. Well, he's a well he's not luckily he's not in that area of the of the store. Right. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, so yeah. Yeah, he probably charge you. No, he didn't I didn't I didn't say hey Aaron.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

We had a nice time going out and doing the billiards and you know, playing songs in the jukebox and the dating.

SPEAKER_06 50:24

There we go.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

No, not no no no.

Pool Dates And Low-Pressure Flirting

SPEAKER_06 50:26

I'm just saying we're getting back to the dating era.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

You know, but then he got all weird to me.

SPEAKER_06 50:31

And I was like, oh, well, sorry, it's uncomfortable, but Okay, say, okay, let's let's go with this. Let's go with uh Johnny boy who you took out to play billiards with and not this guy who wanted to have a No, he was already playing billiards.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

I invited myself into his game.

SPEAKER_06 50:53

No, I'm talking about the one talking about the Growler up the ass.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Oh, okay, yeah. Growler, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:00

Because I don't want to get in too much of your dating deal. But that's about the actually, yes I do. I uh uh what am I saying? Of course I do.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

What's the extent of it?

SPEAKER_05 51:10

But but maybe not on air. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_08 51:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

Of course you do.

SPEAKER_06 51:18

Well say that you're with guy A or should say, sorry, Guy E, and you went and played pool with.

SPEAKER_08 51:31

You have to call it billiards, it's pool.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

Unless you play well, it is a billiard it's the right thing to say.

SPEAKER_06 51:37

There's no pocket involved.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

Okay, pool.

SPEAKER_06 51:41

Thank you. So you all right, play.

SPEAKER_08 51:44

So you so you shot a little stick. Yep. There you go. And it got weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

I mean, I felt like it was a really fun time.

SPEAKER_08 51:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

You know, listen to the biggest.

SPEAKER_06 51:59

Well, you probably kicked his ass up and pissed him off.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

Um, I didn't kick his ass, but I think I flirted a little bit more than I should have. Because I was like practicing just the same as I was my billiards, my pool.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

Practicing the flirting and the billiards. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

Maybe maybe I made him uncomfortable and that was my fault. But yeah, like seeing him back at cart rates, I was just like uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

Really?

SPEAKER_03 52:28

Kind of awkward after that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 52:31

Kind of curious to know how you quote unquote practiced. I mean, what do you mean by practice? I don't I don't know what you mean, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

Oh, I don't know. Just like, you know.

SPEAKER_06 52:42

Bat in the eyes.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

Yeah, dough eyes or like a little grays, you know, on the arm, or you know, like, oh, we love the same songs. How cool. I was just playing that on my guitar earlier.

SPEAKER_06 52:58

Give him a smack on the ass.

unknown 53:00

No.

SPEAKER_06 53:00

Well, just say, come on. Well, no. Well, no, I'm saying come on to her. Oh, it's a good game. That's too far. No, it's why? No, it's a good game. That's what it's called. Good game.

SPEAKER_08 53:11

Good game. Good game. Yeah, good too. Good game. Good game.

SPEAKER_03 53:19

Okay. Maybe that's what you guys did in your sports.

SPEAKER_04 53:23

Oh, no, no, no, no. This isn't me. This is the women that I know, especially the one woman I know.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

I mean, this is like another.

SPEAKER_06 53:33

You guys can get away with that. Okay. Absolutely. You guys can get away with good gaming our ass. We can't get away with good gaming your ass. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 53:41

Okay, but guess what? I'm not going to do that on the first time playing billiards.

SPEAKER_05 53:45

Well, you could have, but I have a little. Is that it? Were you going to say self-respect?

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Cooth.

SPEAKER_05 53:52

Cooth. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 53:54

Okay. Okay. You save that for the third or the fourth date. The little pat on the bottom. You don't give it all away, you know, the first time you play pool.

SPEAKER_06 54:04

I didn't go from you could bring it back from fucking Dallas. Yeah. You go. Yeah, good game, asshole. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

For what? Payoff, though. What am I going to do?

SPEAKER_05 54:15

The payoff is the freaking smack. But it is. It's a freebie.

SPEAKER_06 54:21

Because you could because you can get away with it. Yeah. Okay. Women can get away with that shit.

SPEAKER_03 54:25

Okay, I could get away with a lot of shit, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

SPEAKER_06 54:29

You can't get away with smacking them in the junk.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

But you can get away with why would I do that either?

SPEAKER_06 54:34

I'm just saying. But you can get away with yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

Wait, you know what else? You know what else I can get away with?

SPEAKER_06 54:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 54:42

What?

SPEAKER_03 54:44

Never doing a pool again.

SPEAKER_08 54:46

With the same person. Uh move on to Nick. Well, you know what he was doing. Yeah. With jurgons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

Sorry. It's just gonna happen. That's the end of it.

SPEAKER_08 55:00

The stick was lubed up.

SPEAKER_05 55:01

Yeah. Let's let's call it what it is. Q is good.

SPEAKER_03 55:10

Not the white chalk.

SPEAKER_05 55:11

No, not the white chalk.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

It doesn't work the same.

SPEAKER_05 55:14

No. Yeah. Spully jergens.

SPEAKER_06 55:16

It almost rhymes with chalk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:19

But anyhow, anyway, but no, I'm just saying. It's another example. Okay, I tried it. I didn't have his phone number. I called his ass up at work.

SPEAKER_06 55:28

That was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

Hey, can you trans transfer me to the to the growler department?

SPEAKER_05 55:34

Really?

SPEAKER_03 55:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:36

Well played.

SPEAKER_03 55:37

Like, hey, what are you doing? What are you doing after work? What are you doing after work today? You want to go play pool?

SPEAKER_06 55:45

I mean, well, sure.

SPEAKER_03 55:46

I think what do I have to lose? You know?

SPEAKER_08 55:49

Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

Oh, it was a fun time. See, and just didn't it just didn't amount to anything more, but that's fine. You know?

SPEAKER_05 55:57

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 55:58

You kind of tend to go toward the pool thing with guys.

SPEAKER_05 56:05

Because the hell's ooh about that. No, I do. No, I do. I thought you said ew. So why you know?

SPEAKER_03 56:13

I've heard a a lot of therapists talk about, you know, when you want to talk to young boys that are maybe nervous, like maybe maybe you have been as a young man.

SPEAKER_04 56:24

But as young is like when you want to talk to them about something, you know, go for a car ride.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

Because then they can face, you know, forward. You don't have to look at you directly in like a threatening way when you're making eye contact. So pool is kind of like that. You can kind of move around the table intermittently make eye contact. There's the competition part. There's uh maybe the jukebox.

SPEAKER_08 56:51

I kind of understand.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

You get your music involved.

SPEAKER_08 56:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:55

I just think that it's a nice environment for that's not it's perfect. It's not intimidating like sitting across from somebody at a bar table. Right. It's not nerve-wracking. What do you do for a living?

SPEAKER_06 57:11

But is it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of smart for you if you if you would have played it correctly. And when and when a minute, hang on, hang on, hang on a minute, hang on. And said, Oh, I really never I'm really not that good at it. Can you show me how to do this? I never have him. No, wait, look.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

That's that's it's a free opening, right? Free opening. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 57:40

And then it goes around, you know, it goes around you and it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

If he's gonna get the wrong idea about me, then I'm gonna be asking for help for all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_06 57:47

Oh, no, no, no. And then, and then if the if dude's like, well, I'm not gonna freaking show you how to play because I'm gonna kick the shit out of you in this game. Then you go to what there's a quarter, go play the jukebox and get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_05 58:04

Yeah. Yeah. Then you know that's a done deal.

SPEAKER_06 58:07

See, women have the advantage every fucking time on stuff like that. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

Okay, but why do I have to play like I'm weak or something and I need help? Not weak, and I need teaching. I need meaning.

SPEAKER_06 58:21

No.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Oh, you're just playing koy.

SPEAKER_06 58:24

No, no, it's not playing koy. No, that's kind of.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

I'm not that's not I'm not built that way. No.

SPEAKER_06 58:31

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03 58:32

I'm gonna try to take my best shot, and if I want help, I'll ask for it, but I'm not gonna play the damsel in distress because I don't want to give them the wrong idea that that's how I'm gonna be forevermore. Because I'm not a damsel in distress. So I don't want to give them that wrong idea.

SPEAKER_06 58:50

Okay. Well, you know, you can okay. Could have been just a one-time thing and say, hey, look, and then you go, Oh, yeah, I think I got it now, and then you beat the living hell out of them in the pool. You go, oh, I'll have to practice a lot more, and then I'll show up as a real shark. Oh, you taught me well.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

Oh, okay. Thank you so much. And give them all the credit. Yeah. Great. That's a nice romance story.

SPEAKER_06 59:18

Let's play for 10 bucks, asshole.

SPEAKER_05 59:20

So now you're playing for money with your date.

SPEAKER_06 59:23

Now you're playing for money. That's great. You can go that's gonna work. You can go pool shark on the on and say, hey. Yeah. You can win some money on it. Because see, chicks are so wily.

SPEAKER_05 59:36

We already know that.

SPEAKER_06 59:38

They are so wily.

SPEAKER_05 59:40

I don't even try and outthink my wife because she's gonna win every time. I just concede the game at the start of it.

SPEAKER_07 59:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:50

Which was, you know, whatever, 28 years ago. I'm not gonna even try.

The Power Dynamic Argument

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Wait a second. What do you mean chicks are wily?

SPEAKER_05 59:59

Man, you're gonna win. You have every advantage. They have all the angles.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:02

You have every advantage.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:04

I don't think that's what wily means.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:06

Yeah, it does. Yes, it does. It means they're smart and sneaky and they know how to play the game better than you. Absolutely. They're wily. They know how to play it better than that.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:16

What do you think it meant?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:20

Wily coyote. It's not wily coyote.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

Like wily, the way that I think about it is like unpredictable, like unbridled, like scrambling, scrambling all over the place. Like wild. I mean, wily, doesn't that come from the root word wild or no?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

I don't I don't know, but wily is from a wild kind of means unbridled.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:43

So wily.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Wiley just means you're you know, you you know all the angles, you know how to get over on people, and you freaking.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

I think you guys are looking for a different word.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:54

Oh we're not. No, we're not. Wily coyote. He's supposed to be smart and freaking get over on the roadrunner. Doesn't work out for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:04

Yeah. But he's way smarter than a stupid roadrunner, and yet he always loses because he has his head. No, he's the roadrunner kicks his ass.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

The roadrunner tricks him every time. So he's not smarter than the roadrunner.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:17

I get it, but he thinks he is. But that was that's why the wily part of it is wily coyote is well but so then without context, how would you describe women as being wily?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:29

Wiley, I'm looking up on the Google.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:33

Skilled at gaining an advantage, especially deceitfully.

unknown 1:01:39

Bing, bing, bing, bing.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:41

We have a winner.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:42

Deceitfully. That's what the Roadrunner did.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

That's what Wiley Coyote's trying to do in the cartoons. He's trying to. Doesn't mean he's good at it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

He succumbed to the name was Wiley.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:57

Yeah, Wiley.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Wild E.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:00

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:01

Everyone knows that.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:02

Okay, yeah, here we go. Crafty. Things like that, you know, and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

So things of that nature. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:12

So yeah, and there you go. Chicks are so wily. Pretty much. And they are. So it wasn't like I wouldn't like degrading women. It's like, dude, there you guys are you have every advantage in the whole fucking world over guys anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:33

You have the most important advantage over us. You do. Which is what if you have to ask.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Don't are you gonna seriously?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:43

You do. That makes a huge difference.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

Do we have to say it? No. No, I'm not gonna say it. Okay. So we all know it's the unsaid thing in the room.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:56

It's true. It kind of makes men sound like a little bit pitiful.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:01

We are pitiful compared to you. Are you kidding me? You have all the advan Again, you have all the advantages. We are pitiful. That's why we grov all. Yeah. Please don't hate us.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:15

I tell that to Ryan all the time. I'm like, hey. Just because you have that, you think you can boss me around and do this, that, and the other? Well, that's where you're right. That's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:27

Absolutely right. Absolutely right. Yeah. There's no there's there's no getting around that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

How dare you think the truth?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:36

Yeah, because that's what happens. There's no getting around it. Advantage women. Yeah. No, not advantage. That's a W right there. W. They have the win every time. You can win. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:54

You have so much winning.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:59

Yeah. You do. It's like being born six foot eight and being a basketball player. You're gonna win. Yep. Born six foot eight.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:11

You're not gonna lose.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:14

You don't agree with that?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:16

I'm no, I'm just trying to work through this idea of like.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:18

No, don't get don't put no don't put your sound. Don't put your don't put your therapist hat on.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:24

But also you guys are wily like uh We are knuckle dragging Neanderthals.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

Yes, you don't with the power of the P, which I know you guys were thinking of.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

You guys it just makes it seem like uh you guys are might as well be inanimate objects.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:47

Pretty much what we are. Yeah. Sort of, kinda. Yeah. You don't agree with that?

SPEAKER_08 1:04:56

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:57

You don't agree. You don't agree with this power of the P.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:03

Yeah No.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:06

Well, you need you need to you need to move into our camp as far as what's true, because that is the truth.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:15

Okay, you want me to agree. That's all you gotta do is agree. I'll move into your camp.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:23

Wait, what? Wait, well, we're way well, what? Wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:29

All right, there goes the knuckle dragon again.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

Yeah, now see, see, now we're we're totally freaking flumics. Totally, I don't know where this is going.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:39

I'm just saying you need to go ahead and agree with it because everybody else that you talk to, all your friends will say the exact same thing. Yes, we have the power of the pee.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:49

Yep. If you want this, and I'm pointing in that general region, you have to win this. In this, right? Isn't that true? Yeah.

unknown 1:06:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:05

You already won. You already won.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:07

You're okay with describing men as just being simple-minded and motivated by free.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:13

When it comes to that, it's like hell. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

That's funny because that was on the other Oprah podcast that I listened to.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:20

Well, fuck Oprah, man. I'm telling you. Well, we're we're the truth. The truth is here. Yeah. Not Oprah. We'll tell you the truth. Take it from Remember, I'm an unfiltered conversationalist. Oh, shh. So yeah. Yeah. No. It's the truth. And yeah, it's not that we're okay with that. It's just that that's the world. Human nature. That's the world we live in. It's human nature. You guys got it, and we want it. And we want it. And we and we have to acquiesce. Figure out whatever. Figure out how we have to get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:58

You guys don't want anything else?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:01

Like what? Dinner? We can cook for ourselves. You realize that, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:08

We can provide our own home.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

Are you talking about like another utility is that we will cook for you? No, you're talking about companion shit. Are you talking about someone to listen to the city? Oh, see, that's all fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:20

Yeah. Yeah, that's just a side benefit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

You can go down to car rights and get yourself one of those pre-made dinners. You don't need a woman for that. But what else could you use a woman for?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:30

Are you talking about do we need love? Do we need affection? Yeah, we do. That's right. We do.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

But in the meantime, you're making jokes about the power of the pea.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:39

Well, the power of the pea is uh immutable. Everything immutable. There is no freaking getting around it. There's no love and effects. There's no love, there's no affection, there's no anything else unless at the power of the pea.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:55

Yep. You agree with us, right? Well, goodness that okay. You have to.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

I'm accepting it, but I'm also terribly disappointed.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:06

Don't be disappointed. Well, you can be disappointed, but you're disappointed in two guys that are disappointed.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

We love because this is a world that I'm entering into. Dudes love. Okay, so my value is in the P.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:18

No. No, no, that is not you're you're looking at at it from your side. This is not about so much because I have a P. I know you have a P. I get it. But it it's not about you so much as it's what we're chasing.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:37

I know, I understand that.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:40

That's the that's the whole thing. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:43

Well, you could I mean you can go get someone on the internet. You can get something else on the internet that serves the same purpose. You don't need a whole human being with like a personality and values and the relationship.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:00

That's just a freaking bonus.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:01

You can go and get a pocket pee or something if that's so important to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:05

Yeah, that's not that's not the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

Okay, well, that's why I'm asking you to elaborate. Like it's not that simple as just pursuing the pee.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:14

No, I'm saying you have the pee, you have the power. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

I know, I understand that.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:19

And we do love and we do have affection, and we do, and we do love that. That's that's very true. Don't get me wrong. Yep. But but when it comes right down to the fact, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:33

You get Jace, you got it. Yep, because you you're you're the winner. That's it. You're the winner. Winner, winner, pee dinner. That's that's absolutely it. You win.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

If you're lucky.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:51

It's not lucky. See is lucky, isn't it? It's lucky if you do get that. For us, yes. For them. Oh no, not for them, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:01

They freaking win every time. It's not luck. And we're okay. Look.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:08

Normally I'm outnumbered with women, and then yep, now you're outnumbered.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:13

And yet she's still gonna win. Yes! She's still gonna win this argument. What you want, Krista? A beer?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:22

Yeah, well, my little seltzer is in there.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:24

Oh, your seltzer.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:25

You guys are taking me to the edge of the side.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:27

Oh, it's in the it's in the refrigerator inside. We're gonna get we're gonna get done real quick.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:32

Yeah, you guys are uh What?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:34

Taking me to the edge of uh mankind in a different way, just with the Are you saying we're we're savages and we can't freaking be reasoned with?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:48

No, just being earnest. I appreciate it. Because, you know, like this is the ling- I like trafficking and understanding humans and communication. So it's very interesting to have this kind of like behind the veil person.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:05

Oh, this there's no veil here. Pulling back the curtain. Well that's what I'm learning. Pulling back the curtain.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:11

No, there's actually no veil whatsoever.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:14

No, there's pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:19

That's right. You gotta remember we are simple creatures and we know that we lose every time.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:27

So we're good with it.

unknown 1:11:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:33

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

Okay. I just still feel like maybe that's a story you're telling yourself. I'm so simple.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:42

I'm I'm pretty simple.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:45

You just you just ask your girlfriends at cart rights, and then they're gonna go, oh fuck, yeah, they're right.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:52

Yeah, I think I think I think this this conversation you don't you don't think that it's uh how do I put this?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:09

Just the s the sentiment of somebody having like more faith in you that you're more than just a simple knuckle-dragging monkey. Like that doesn't feel nice at all.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:24

I'm okay with it. We're we're just used to it. I I'm yeah, I mean We were born in we are born into the world, is that well?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:32

I mean, people get used to being told all kinds of things about themselves. That doesn't mean that it feels good.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:36

Well, hold on. It it's you know, for uh I I think I think we're oversimplifying it just a bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:45

You are, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:47

But we we find our place being, you know, knuckle draggers as that's our place. I mean we're good at we're good at sharing this beer. Yeah, we're sharing this beer. We're we're good at it.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

I don't have any cooties that I know of. I just I just got tested too.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:10

We're trainable animals, but we're still in the long run, we're we don't mind being animals. That's uh that's our deal. We're just dudes. Yeah. We're simple. We're dudes, we're simple.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:26

It doesn't take much to freaking make us happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:29

This is where I mean I think there's a disconnect.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:31

I'm a simple man.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:32

If you're in like a heterosexual relationship, women don't want you to keep believing, well, I'm just simple. I'm a monkey, I'm knuckle draggling, dragging. Don't expect much more from me. That's where women get frustrated. Reducing yourself to that, like, well, I'm not really capable of much more. I'm just a simple monkey over here.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:55

We're exaggerating that a bit. We are. We're exaggerating that a bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

Women know women know part of it is at your core.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:04

Because you're smart, you're wily, and you know it. Oh, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:08

Yeah, I'm aware of the people. We're simple when it comes to simpletons.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

You want to present as being simple.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:15

No, we're simple when it comes to women. Yeah. It's pretty simple what we want. Literally. It's pretty simple. You know? We love chicks. We yes, absolutely. We very much so do. So it's it's not like it's, you know, gosh, this is higher.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:39

And I'm okay with going like, hey, you know what? You know, hey, not just the power of the P. I'm just saying, I'm okay with that, you know, like, hey, you know, we need you guys. Okay. I like I like the way you look, I like the way you feel, and this stuff like that. I like stuff like that. And and the way we feel with each other and stuff like that. Yep. That's what the deal is.

unknown 1:15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:07

But you still own the power. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:11

Okay. And so what what do women get in return?

SPEAKER_06 1:15:16

Whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

Like what?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:22

You tell us because you have the power. Yeah. You you have to cross that threshold before the no happens. And it may be a thousand miles down the road.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:32

But it's not like that, trust me.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:34

Every time it's like you because you because I'm just asking, because you guys just told me I had the power of the pea.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:39

But you do have the power of the pee.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

Some but there's some young man told me that if I cook him dinner, he will clean up the dishes. And so that doesn't really feel like it.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:48

Yeah, but you know, here's the thing. There you go. And he said, Oh, no, no, no, no. You're, you know, it doesn't feel like it, but all you have to do is go like, fuck you.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:00

Oh, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:01

Well, you could you could have no, no, no, no, no. You you have you you're like, fuck you, dude. Not to him. Saying in your mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:09

Oh, theoretically.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:10

Yeah. Fuck you. You know, you're you're not getting any of this. Yeah. I have it.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:19

You don't. You could have just said, what what's your next best offer? Because that first offer sucked.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

I wouldn't have tried interested in, anyways, because he is a little baby. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:31

Just a little kid.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:32

Again.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:33

Not a literal kid. I don't want to believe that it was a kid.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:36

You can just go, hey, look. 20 something. This isn't shark tank asshole. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:42

Yeah. You know. We're not, we're not after the lowest bid. Yeah. Bring bring your bed up.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:49

I I don't think he meant any harm or foul by it. But he did. He just didn't he doesn't know any better.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:56

Well, it's good that young kids are getting smarter by shooting him down.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:01

At least he approached me a couple of times.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

Oh, a couple of times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:06

Yes, several times. Okay. That's more than, you know, 30, 40, something.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:11

If he's at least he went for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:14

I'll give him credit for that. He did. Yeah. He went for it.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:18

And then he got shot down, thank God.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:20

It's just not for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:22

Yeah. Because it would have been pretty cool if you if he would have said that shit to you and you went, eh.

unknown 1:17:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:30

And did the whole freaking X right.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:34

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:35

Not happening. Not happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:39

And you're gone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:42

Well.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:42

Go go back there into the and go back. Just been playing.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:46

I would have just said, oh, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:47

Or actually, what would have been better is like if you said, go back to the meat department and play with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:54

Jeff.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:55

That would have been awesome. That would have been fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:59

Okay, in a movie. I would never. That is so rude.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:05

It's not rude so much as it's appropriate.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:09

No, it's not. That's so that's unkind. It's funny in theoretically, but in real life.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:17

It's funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

In real life, it's not no. In real life, that's mean.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:23

You're gonna, you're gonna fucking yeah, that's a see that's a knuckle dragger. Yeah, you're gonna cook beef dinner and shit like that. Okay. And then you go, hey, go get your ass back to the meat department and go play with it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:39

In what world would I ever talk to someone that was?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:44

You had that option.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:44

I know, but you annoying me, in what world would I ever say something like that to someone?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:49

Uh probably next week if he tries it.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:54

Maybe Hulk.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:55

Because I gave you that gift.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:56

No, there's only there's actually only one person that I've spoken to instead of real bad words to. And it wasn't a man.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:06

And I didn't even and there wasn't even a bad word involved. Yeah. Just go back to the meat department and play with it. Play with your meat.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:15

No, I don't, but here I am. I'm complicit in this whole epidemic that we're talking about, discouraging young men from approaching women.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:24

No, it's not even.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:26

So if I go ahead and give him that feedback and then he's gonna go with his tail between his legs, no, he's discouraged, then I'm complicit in this epidemic.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:36

It's not no. It's a it's a you know what it's consequences to what you say doesn't feed into this epidemic.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:44

Thank you rather than go play with your meeting.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:47

You gotta look at it this way. If there is a smack down involved, maybe there should be. It's a teachable moment. That's it. There's times when it's a teachable moment. You you have to that's not the way to teach, though. Yes, yeah, but but but hold on, hold on. This is real life. Isn't there isn't there an appropriate response for an appropriate reaction for an appropriate an inappropriate you're reporting that's like an equal in equivalent proportionate, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:20

Proportionate.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:21

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:23

I mean, I do agree that to propose that I'll take that as a yes. It is a yes that I make somebody dinner and then they do the dishes. I have a dishwasher, by the way. So I don't even need that.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:37

That'd be cheating for him. He wouldn't even get half to do anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:40

So I'd say my house.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:42

So did you just say that out loud? Yeah. Really?

unknown 1:20:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:48

He just wants to come inside your house.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:53

Take each word. Take each word and think about what no.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:57

I thought I I thought I thought I was being I I know. I get the pun. Okay. I'm not I'm born on a Tuesday, not last Tuesday.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:06

Born at night, not last night. Good. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:09

Born on the weekend, not last weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:11

Okay. However, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:15

I'm not gonna invite anyone into my house. Okay. If their best offer is to do the dishes when I have a dishwasher.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:23

Of course not.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:24

Also, I don't see my house. Take me out somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:28

Exactly. I don't want to be emotional. See, there are but there there's a response to that, and that is your offer sucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:36

Yes, but I'm not gonna encourage him by doing it.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:38

So flag your goals back to the meat department and play with your meat. Right. Simple as that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:46

Okay, well, I'm not in the business of hurting some young man's feelings. Here's Rayette.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:51

But you can be. Yeah, Rayette's.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:54

No, but I'm not. That's not my nature. I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:58

If he says, Cook me dinner and I'll do the dishes, yeah, you will.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:02

If he said some weird shit about the power of the pee, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:06

Rayette'll.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:06

Or staying up late at night or you know Thank God she's here.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:11

Rick, pull your microphone over there for her real quick. About the power about the power of the pea.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:20

That pee or this pee? That pee. Has all the power. That's right. Yeah, get over there and explain to her about the power of the pee. It controls everything. All the power. I talk loud.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

Like in general or in your relationship with your partner?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:46

What's your I would say your relationship with your partner?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:49

Probably both of them. Definitely in your relationship.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:55

It's a real thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:57

I told you. I told you. If she if she can't if she was here right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:02

I'm a social worker. I'm all about like assessing power structures. I'm not abusing powers.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:06

I told you. Don't put that shit on here.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:08

No, I can't.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:09

It's the it's the real it's a real world here.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:12

I okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:13

It's not about abusing it, it's just that it's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:21

Girls, honestly, girls can go forever without having sex, and guys can't.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:32

So that they're trying to tell me that they're so simple, almost like they're not even human beings. We're simple too. They're so simple. Almost like amphibians or something. Because the they're s they're just like they can be controlled so easily by the power of the pee. Pretty much. They could do anything. Commit murder? I mean Dude!

SPEAKER_06 1:24:03

Have you watched State Line?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:06

It's all about you not watch crime stories and State Line. I'm trying to quit money and all that. I'm really trying to quit the crime stories.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:17

It's all about that. Yeah.

unknown 1:24:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:24

Rigor, take that mic.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:25

Raya, come over here for a second and and just make things happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:31

I mean, you you you guys are not really making it very desirable to be in a relationship with the people who are.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:37

No, you're missing the point.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:40

It just kind of sounds like to me that all you care about is the P. And it's the truth. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:48

No, that's not the truth. But when you're starting a relationship, it is a freaking major factor. You know, when you get to our age, it kind of, you know, it's not the same, but we lose the drive. We do.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:03

Everybody does.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:05

But at the same time, it's like when you're talking about 30 something, hell yeah, it's all about that. Yes. Of course it is. So now And it's not a negative because you get to drive the freaking equation.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:20

So now the odds are even because Rayette's here and she's going to explain about the power of the P.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:27

I'm not going to explain. I'm here to understand the power of the P. Yeah, Rayette's going to explain.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:31

No, I'm I pretty much did. I said men can't go without it, and women can. I just and what I tried.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:40

And they can't have it without us. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not that simple. Like no, they are simple. Like sorry. Like single-celled uh creatures, you know. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but then you know, they kept confessing to me. Yeah, we are simple. We all want to all we want is the pee. In the end, that is all they want. Well it's true. Well, that's so encouraging for dating. That's real encouraging.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:13

It should be encouraging for you.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:22

Right. But we we do love and then we do it. We are in fact, we do this kind of shit.

unknown 1:26:26

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:27

Yeah. But it is discouraging around dating, even in person. It's like, oh, all y'all want is the pee.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:34

That's why I feel like in dating, I think I would have to be their friend first and find out that there's more to them than just going in for a date. Like personally.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:48

You just have to understand that that honestly, you have to you have to believe that that there's just because our motivation is one thing doesn't mean there's more, there isn't more to us.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:05

But that's That's exactly what I said to you.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:08

I I know, but there was more to you. But they're the mo the major motivating factor at your age is gonna be that. And you have to understand that and use that to your advantage.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:22

In their 30s, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:24

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:28

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:29

Use use it to your advantage. This is not this is not hard. It's look at tomorrow. Tomorrow's gonna be a full slate of NFL games.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:40

It sounds very transactional. Like we've totally skipped over the part of getting to know each other, who you are, what do you bring to the table, your life history. The way that you're putting it is like, oh, you're in your 30s, you guys might as well fuck.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:57

No, that is not it. That's not

SPEAKER_03 1:28:00

That sounds to me.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:01

Okay. Look, maybe, maybe I can put this in a in a in a different way. You have the power to learn all that stuff. You have the power to find out what type of person there is. Because our motivating factor at that age is the pee. Then then we have to freaking acquiesce to your wishes. And acquiescing to your wishes is you get to find out everything you need to know about us before you go forward.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:30

I don't want a man that's just acquiescing to getting to know me because he wants a pee. Do you know what I mean? That's why you get to know him first.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:40

You withhold the pee. Exactly. Yes. And then if they don't want to stick around, then you don't have to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:45

Then you know that type of person isn't the person in the line.

Where To Meet People Offline

SPEAKER_01 1:28:49

You're okay. Carry on on Tinder. Exactly. Because they won't say it strictly on there. My friend just went through this. She swiped right and left and whatever on any of those things. And she went out with quite a few of them. And in the end, at the end of the first date, they were already asking her like back to the house or whatever. And she was like, Nope. Finally, she ended up dating a guy. He was a real gentleman. They went on multiple dates, old fashioned type. Bought her flowers, took her to dinner. Now we're talking.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:32

It wasn't me though.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:36

You're married. If you're on there, then now you're divorced. We're not telling an old story.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:41

I just wanted to clarify that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:42

Okay. It was not and it's not a story from years ago. Okay.

unknown 1:29:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:47

Good. And she so she finally found a good guy. And it was months in before she gave it up. But it started on what? It started on the app. Yep. Yep. So I mean, yes, there are decent guys out there. It's just weeding through that it's probably 10% decent guys and 90% not. Who's got that kind of time?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:11

But then the next question is where in the hell do you meet somebody in person? You know? Like, do I need to take up golf? Um, I'm not gonna, I'm not going to church. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:24

It's just a place. I'm not saying it's the only thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:26

I think church will let me in.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:28

Okay. But I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:32

I mean, I feel like you would want to meet them in the places that you like like to hang out. I wouldn't go to any of those places if you don't normally hang out with them because then you're telling them that's what you like to do. And if it's really not what you like to do, then you're leading them.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:46

You're stuck with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:50

I think you need to go to your places, whether it's cartwrights, whether it's Trader Joe's, whether it's a pottery class.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:59

Yes, because then you know that's what they like to do. Otherwise, I think you're leading them on.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:09

What about the gas station? I go to the gas station a lot. Is that a good place?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:14

I mean, if you want to act dumb and not know how to pump your own gas, maybe. But I just feel like that's like you have to go to the places you frequent.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

Because that's what you would want to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:32

Yeah. I like hard. I like going to the movie theaters.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:36

That's a little harder to meet people, but just because, you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:39

Yeah, but it is nice and dark and romantic in there. Perfect. I probably should sing that ghost song. Probably shouldn't. What? I can't hear me. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:57

Did you say you're gonna sing a song?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:59

I probably should sing that ghost song since we're talking about pottery classes and shit, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:04

Oh yeah. That's very rare.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:12

How many listeners do you want to lose tonight? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:15

You know what else was romantic?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:16

I don't have enough to even worry about that right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:20

You know what else was romantic was when What's his name? Pete Peter from the Ghostbusters. Remember he saved that girl? She was uh haunted by a ghost floating over her bed. And then the baby was out on the ledge.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:40

The baby is out on the ledge.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:42

Yeah, I think it was ghost time since we watched that. The one with the pink slime?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:46

Oh, I never saw that.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:48

No, I n I never saw the second one.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:50

That's unfortunate. I only saw the original.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:53

And that was many, many, many years ago. Many. Nope, frequent the places you normally frequent.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:05

I wouldn't I wouldn't go to any of the places you don't normally frequent.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:11

Including the internet. Maybe. I mean I think it's a good tool to use.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:22

To find a tool?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:23

Well we were talking. But I think you can find a non-human tool on the internet too.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:36

I think it I think it can be available.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:41

I don't think every guy out there is a pig. Some are just piglets. Just a little bit piggy.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:51

Little babies.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:52

But so are women. Women can be pigs.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:55

For sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:57

Say more about that.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:00

No. No, that's it. That's all I'm gonna say. Self-admitted though. Most women.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:10

What most women are fine with admitting that they're pig just as dirty and nasty as their men. Yeah. Most of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:21

Sometimes. What do you mean? Like wanting sex, being horny? Being kinky? That's different than a pig. Oh, look at it. Ricker's blushing.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:35

No, I'm I'm trying to foment some kind of anger about this, but I can't because it's probably true. It's probably true. Yeah. I I don't know. That's that's a that's a we finally stumped Ricker.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:53

You get the dirty section, whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:56

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:58

Let's just let's just table this for the moment. Okay. Well.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:07

I guess it's time for Jeffy to call it call it a freaking a day.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:14

And I'm back. Thanks, Raya, because I needed you on that.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:20

Yeah, no kidding. We need it we need a second female voice on this one to you know. At least have somebody admit that they win. And as for dirty sex that you were bringing up, Bricker?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:35

I wasn't bringing it up. I'm not gonna go into it right now. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:38

Yeah, we'll talk about that offline.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:40

Well, no, we're not gonna talk about it offline.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:42

Oh, yeah, we are.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:43

This isn't online. This is on the mic.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:47

Isn't doesn't it come out online?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:49

Well, kinda.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:50

But I told you I'm a Luddite. I already self-declared.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:54

I'm not saying that. I'm gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ask you to tell us about dirty sex.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:00

Oh. There wouldn't be much to tell, frankly.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:06

It's a whole nother show. But you guys ready to wrap this bad boy up? Yep. Yeah. And then get ready for the dirty sex episode one of these days? It's not gonna happen, but you know. Well it might. You never know with this shit. Yeah. Thanks to the Ricker, he got us a new topic.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:28

I know, but he's I guarantee you he's not gonna tell the dirty deets.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:33

I don't have any. I don't have any.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:36

I'm cleaner. He proposed it. He loves proposing the idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:41

Teresa probably would, but I don't want to be involved in that conversation. That's between her and Oh Lord. Yeah. The Lord. That's right. Oh my god. That him Teresa might. Yeah. I'll I'll leave that. You got me thinking, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:01

I can wait for that.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:02

Yeah. Yeah, we all can't. That would be that would be women only. That you know, you should probably do that as a women-only thing. I think I I think that would be you, Rayette, hosting this whole thing. Yeah, that has to be a women's show. Yeah, I think so. And then we can listen to it and have no clue as to the bigger. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:30

Wouldn't you like that?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:31

Oh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:34

Anyways. I might have to break out a bottle of jergens on that show and after, you know, and listening to it. I'll I'll just I'll just let you have your day. Shoot spider webs all over the room.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:48

You've never been so quiet for in your life.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:51

So I'm not gonna say. I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:55

That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:56

Okay.

unknown 1:37:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:57

And by the way, when I when I play outro music, you can still talk. Intro music, forbidden.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:03

Is it coming?

SPEAKER_06 1:38:04

Outro music, you can talk.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:06

Is it coming?

SPEAKER_06 1:38:07

No verboten. No verboten. Okay. Hey, thanks, Krista. Thanks, Ricker. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:14

Hey, good talking with you guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:16

It was fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:17

Yeah, it's been real fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:18

Jeffy McJerpherson at Almost Famous Radio Podcast.com for the email. We had a good time.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:28

We had a right cameo.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:29

We won a quick share the pod with everyone.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:39

Unless you were on it and you're a parent.