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SPEAKER_05 0:21

Hello and welcome to the Revenant Go Reviews podcast.

SPEAKER_04 0:25

We're back on the road to doomsday. I am your host, Andy. I'm here with Adam. Adam, we're back talking about MCU. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 0:38

I'm doing a lot better now that we're talking about a better movie.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Oh yeah. Before we were recording, we were talking about future episodes. We're not going to get into it because those are obviously spoilers for the future.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 0:53

Yes. But we're back on the road to Doomsday. Last week, we talked about the Sonyverse, the Sony Spider-Man universe. We talked about Morbius, Madden Webb, and Craven the Hunter. And um, it's nice to know that we're gonna be talking about a better movie this week. Better than all three of them combined. Oh, not they the all three of them combined don't even come close.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

And that's not even saying much, which is sad.

SPEAKER_04 1:27

There's not one thing about any of those movies that can touch the worst thing about this movie we're talking about today. I mean, if you did listen to last week's episode, you know which episode which movie we're talking about today, and that is Thor Ragnarok. We're back not just talking about Marvel. Well, I mean, not just talking about the MCU. We're talking we're back with phase three. We're like nearing the end of phase three, actually. Because I believe the following year, 2018, because Thor Ragnarok came out in 2017, if I'm not mistaken, 2018 is Infinity War. Isn't so actually, actually, we got um in the future, uh, timeline-wise, it goes Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther, and then Infinity War. So we're close. We're getting there, guys. We are definitely getting there, but we're talking about Thor Ragnarok, um, which you know is very, very, very different from our previous two Thor movies, which we've talked about before on the podcast. So if you haven't already heard us talk about those movies, uh, I suggest you go do that after listening to this episode. Um, yeah. Before we get into it though, make sure to follow us over on Instagram. You guys already know at Revan and GoPod on Instagram for Myan Adam's quick movie reviews and other podcast updates, knowing what's coming out, when's coming out. Hey guys, this is new, that's new, but again, quick movie reviews over there is the main thing. Once again, that's at RevanGoPod on Instagram. Okay, Adam.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Let's get into Thor Ragnarok. And before we like dive deep into our opinions, because who doesn't love opinions? Am I right? The internet sure does love opinions. Oh yep. Whether they're good or bad, people will watch, read, read, or listen to them. Um Thor Ragnarok, um, like I said at the beginning, um, very, very different. I'd say the complete like 180 from the previous two Thor movies um for the s main reason being that they decided to make Thor way more comedic. Yeah. Now I want to ask you this question.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Do you think that it was the right call?

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Uh I think it was because at the end of the day it like because the Thor movies at the time were like the weakest part of the MCU. Here's the thing, which were like they were still like okay movies, but like again, they were the weakest, so they they wanted to shake things up, so I guess they went with Taika Wakiti and just let him go nuts with it.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

And that he did. He did.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

And to this day, people still highly, I like highly praise Thor Ragnarok for like the shot of like energy it shot into this franchise, even Chris Hemsworth and the MCU at the time.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Yeah, well, I think people were just hyped up because like the Thor movies are now like better. Because again, like I said, the Thor movies were always like the weakest of the move of the MCU. So now that this like this pretty big I would say this is still a like a big improvement over uh what was it? Oh Dark Side, what was it? Thor of the Dark World. Yeah, Thor of the Dark World. This was a huge step. I thought it was a good step up, massive step up, I'd say. Yeah, so like regardless of how you feel about like how it ended up, like I still think like I still think this was a step up, and this got everyone really excited, like, especially now, like with you know because like this is like peak MCU hype, you know? Oh yeah, but like and like everyone's like, oh my god, now even Thor's really good. This MCU just can't miss.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

Like bro, MCU, I think from the like from its get-go, went on a s just a streak of never having a bad movie. And even though the Thor movies, I'd say of a of all the MCU movies. Yeah, the week is still okay. Yeah, I still enjoy them very much, but I can totally see what the problems were with those movies, especially the second Thor movie.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:30

Um, but again, there's still stuff to them that I think is really good. Um we'll get into some of like one of the big things is the Thor and Loki uh relationship that I really, really dig for those two movies, and we'll get into their relationship in this movie too. Um so I think all in all, I think it was the right call to come like this is like a completely different Thor. This isn't like brooding Thor, which is wild because like we get Thor like this, and then not really spoilers for infinity word, but then we go back to brooding Thor. And then we get even more depressed Thor. And then we're back to jokey Thor, come Thor 11 Thunder. Um, but for the time being, 2017, Thor Ragnarok, this was absolutely what this character needed.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yeah, it's just it needed a punch up, man.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

It really did, and Tyco Waikini was that man.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

Tyco Waikini is really real mixed back the director for me, man. I don't know what to expect from him, whether or not I'll like it or not.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Yeah. But shout out to his shout out to his movie JoJo Rabbit.

SPEAKER_03 7:47

That movie ruled. I mean, I mean, I think everyone's everyone and their mom has already seen Yeah, everyone and their mom has probably like praise that movie, but it is so good. It's a really good movie. Really good movie.

SPEAKER_04 7:59

Where he casts himself as Hitler. Yeah. Really good movie. If you haven't checked out Jojo Rabbit, highly, highly suggest that movie. Really good.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

But I was gonna shout out, I was just gonna shout out another one of the funny movie he did. Here's an actual funny movie, which is what we do in the shadows. It's hilarious. Um yeah, so he makes good movies. It's just sometimes it's uh when he goes a little too nuts with it. He did Green Lantern too, so you know take of that with what you will.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

With that said, though, let's get into Thor Ragnarok, like getting into the movie. And uh we we I I asked you the question was making Thor uh Comedic character the right call. Uh, right off the bat, this movie's just like the jokes start now. When he's talking to Surter and he's chained up and he's spinning and he's like, oh wait, like cutting off uh surter right off the bat. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty sure when I first saw this movie I laughed at most of these jokes. But this one, this one in particular is the one that just I like I sigh at. I groan. I'm like this is one that doesn't land on rewatch. This just like, oh guys, I'm spinning. Oh, I'm not even doing it my myself. I'm not even doing it myself. It's like it's just doing it on its own. It's the one joke that like I groan at every time. This one doesn't age well.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Yeah, it just it goes on for like a little too long.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

Yep. But again, this is also like you said, peak MCU, so the visuals, to no surprise, are top notch with surter and then this dragon looking thing. Maybe it has a real actual name. I don't I don't know. But again, right off the bat, Thor kicking ass, great music, and like I said, this dragon thing chasing him. Really, really, really cool way to kick off kick off the movie, especially with that title card, the way the title card just pops into there with the bifrost. Oh, yeah, really, really cool. Um and but again, this also movie started up with um, if we remember how Thor the Dark World ended, uh, we think uh Loki dies um while he was fighting that elf monster on steroids. And so we think he dies, and then plot twist as Thor's talking to Odin, talking about like I don't deserve the hammer, and then Odin's like, hold on to it, I think you do, and Thor walks off. Plot twist, Loki has actually it's actually Loki doing his magic thing, sitting in for Odin, and where's Odin? We don't know. Big questions coming out of that movie, and but here we go. We got Loki as Odin, and right off the bat I was annoyed because I was just like, for me, Loki taking over as Odin, you know, pretending to be him at the end of For the Dark World was like, yo, like this is this might be like a big thing in the next movie because we know he's not dead, and he's now technically overseeing Asgard. What will we do? He's doing nothing, he's just throwing on plays about how Loki died at the end of Thor the Dark World, some meta stuff played by Matt Damon. What? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Uh yeah, I love that. They also did uh was wasn't it like Thor's brother? Yeah, Liam's brothers. Liam is uh Thor. Liam's Thor, like fake Thor.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

Yeah, it's really, really good. Like um I was I was I was I it caught me off guard when I saw uh Matt Damon there for the first time when I first watched this movie. Really, really good. Um, but yeah, I did not like that this whole uh Odin Loki pretending to be Odin was just thrown away right away because it's weird because Thor shows up in Asgard and he like immediately knows that Loki is Odin. Like he knows. Yeah. You telling me he couldn't figure that out at the end of Thor the Dark World?

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Yeah, it was a bit weird.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

So yeah, he's just the Yeah, it it comes this movie sacrifices some ten a lot of tension for it to be uh to be funny.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Which kind of hurts it sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 12:55

Um I don't think it does it all that often, but like not often, but every once in a while it'll do it though. Uh-huh. And I think this just came at the cost of this for in my head, this like potential really nice storyline of Loki taking over and pretending to be Odin, and it was just thrown away like it was nothing. Whatever. Yeah. Uh so now they're on the look for Odin, and they get stopped by something pretty strange. Doctor Strange. What? That's right. Benedict Cumberbatch makes a cameo. I I don't know if we knew he was gonna be in this. I don't remember like my head where my head was at or what the news was leading into the movie. But Benedict Cumberbatch, Doctor Strange, is in this movie, and he kind of just wants them out. He just they just want to find Odin and whatever. We get the really funny line of because Doctor Strange sent Loki falling through a portal, summons him back, and Loki's just like, I've been falling for 30 minutes. Really funny stuff. Joke still lands. Loki looks great in a suit. He looks great in a suit. Yeah, he does. Um we all we also get Doctor Strange wearing the um his gloves. Yeah. Which he doesn't wear ever again. Um I'm pretty sure this was just like uh throw these on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I'm sure it was just like a last a costume design that they didn't realize was like kind of like contradicting his previous designs or something, you know. Like someone just did like probably didn't just it's just a minor oversight.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

And it's not like it just what I was gonna say, plus like he doesn't he's not wearing them in Infinity War, he's not wearing them in Endgame, and he doesn't wear them in No Way Home, but he has like a a reasoning for not wearing them because he's not the sorcerer supreme or whatever on a technicality on a technicality. Um but it was fun seeing Doctor Strange and his interaction with with Thor being it was fun seeing him with Loki too because you know Loki's also magic, but it's like different levels of magic or different types of magic really. So it was nice to see them all interacting. And they eventually find Odin who was like in this just grass field somewhere, and he's just like staring off in the distance, enjoying the beauty of the world. And which you know we can all relate. I'm pretty sure we've all stopped somewhere at some point enjoying just nature not saying a thing, just sitting down and absorbing the view. We've all done that. Um and it was it was all right, we'll say it right here. Um Odin is just like, hey, by the way, guys, I'm not gonna be here much longer. Oh, and um, you have a sister. Um, and I've been keeping her like basically like locked away, but as soon as I die, she'll be on her way. And so, like, oh guys, by the way. I'm out.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

And he dies! There he goes.

SPEAKER_05 16:20

Oh that's how they got Thanos.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

He got Thanosnap before Thanosnap.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

He really did. How?

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I d uh how and there goes and there goes one of the more important characters.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

One of the most important characters in the MCU and like like uh talk about a character you you could like explore and they don't talk about a dude who oh he's not just a care a strong character, he's Odin.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

Yeah, he's Odin Adam, and he just dies, Anthony Hopkins, too, man. Yes, he just dies, and before he dies, they're like, hey, um, can't before you die, can you drop in the what the plot of the rest of the movie is gonna be? He just dies, Adam.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Oh, I yeah, it's literally it's literally just exposition dump. Alright, out.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

Yeah, you have a sister. I can't hold her any longer. I banished her, she's probably mad. Bye guys.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

It was more like you have a sister, she's it was more like you have a sister, she's gonna be in the mini villain. No, I've never mentioned her, and no, we're not, I'm not gonna elaborate any further. Bye.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

Ah, it's like it's like mad disrespectful.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

You tell me you couldn't think of any other way the villain could be introduced, no other way. Oh, and on top of that, this wasn't even where he was originally supposed to die because if you remember the trailer, which I do, they originally just found him in an alleyway.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Oh, right. I think I do remember that.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

They found him in an alleyway, and I think I think people kind of figured out that he was gonna die in this movie. And I don't know if like they got mad at Marvel for potentially killing Odin in an alleyway, or maybe they just thought it was too disrespectful for the character. So they changed it. I don't know what it was, but they did change it because he was in the trailer, he's in an alleyway. In the trailer, their first interaction with Hella is in the alleyway, and that that gets changed in this. Yep. So Odin dies. All powerful Odin just Thanos is away. Oh, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's something in of itself. We'll probably get back in. Like we'll talk about it later again. But he dies, and as soon as he dies, and I'm talking as soon as he is this the sparkleness of his body fades away, this portal opens up, and the villain, their sister, Hella, is here played by oh my word.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Kate Blanchette.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

Oh my and she looks at me.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

She does. Who's fantastic?

SPEAKER_04 19:24

How evil can she's Kate Blanchett? Can't expect me to uh and as I'm feeling these emotions in 2017, I'll I'll say I'll say it even now. It's it's Kate Blanchett, my dude. Thor doesn't hesitate as he shouldn't, because his dad just told him, by the way, got an evil sister, she's probably kinda mad and coming for you guys. Throws the hammer, throws meum yum, and she catches it. And destroys it. Destroys it with ease. With ease. Granted, that that one didn't come as a total surprise. Cause that was in the trailer.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Really wish it in spoiler. Yeah, I was kinda mad about that spoiler.

SPEAKER_05 20:10

Why couldn't the why couldn't the trailer just be she caught it?

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Exactly. I don't know what it is about Marvel just spoiling shit.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Uh so you know now granted it's like I think after watching the movie that the hammer has nothing really to do with the rest of the movie, so I kind of get why they did it early, but like her catching the hammer is one thing. Destroying it, you save that. You save that.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

I know can you imagine the shock of everyone if they just kept that fucking secret?

SPEAKER_04 20:54

Remember when when Vision picked up Thor's hammer for the first time? I my whole auditorium gasped at him. I heard the wind get sucked out of the air. The same thing would have happened here. Yeah. But no, they they ruined it in the channel. Yeah. And Loki immediately panics and he calls for him to be summoned back, not by we find out it's not by Heimdall. It's by, oh my gosh, I don't know what the character's name. Uh the one played by Babcher? Yeah. Carl Urban, aka Scourge. Um calls for him to summon back because he panics. So the Bifrost is summoned, and Thor knows this is a bad idea. So he's like, no, and they get sucked up. And I don't know how, or I can't well, Hella follows them into the Bifrost portal, and I don't know how. She seems to be shooting up into the Bifrost quicker than them. Um She's like throwing her like weird antler, spike, sword, dagger things at them, and they get knocked. We've never seen this before, knocked out of the bifrost. And we start getting like these flashes of space because now we don't know we don't know where they're going. They don't know where they're going. Wild. Um, yeah. So while they're traveling through space and whatever, Hella gets back to Asgard. Okay. It gets introduced to uh Scourge, whatever. And she's confronted by uh some of the what are they called? The Warrior Three.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

Well, at their at the time, it was just two of the members of the Warrior Three, and they're like, hmm, let us confront you, and she kills them.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Oh yeah. Another group of people that just uh did not Marvel did nothing with Fandraw and Volstag, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 22:56

She kills them instantly. They fall down, and I'm like, okay, they're just injured. And then she doubles down and like throws another sword spike, antler sword, dagger thing at them, and I'm like, this isn't happening. Like, I know you have to prove she's a threat, but you did not have to kill the warrior three. You are two of the members, you didn't have to do that. You and I'm like enjoying the movie, but like I'm also like, why are you doing this? Yeah, like you just killed off Odin for no reason. You're killing off these two. I know they did haven't done nothing, but you could have him there. Like, considering what happens immediately after this, we could have kept it. Zachary Levi.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

I know and then there he goes. Oh goodness, you're gonna like movie's getting on my nerves. So he he came in in the second movie, Zachary Levi. They replaced the first actor, which no one noticed, which because you know, again, they really didn't do much in that first movie either. But like, so you are like, you got a big name actor to play this one character, and then you immediately just kill him off in the next movie. I'm like, it just feels like you're just throwing like if you feel like you just got just burn your if you feel like wasting money, just throw it in the furnace or something. I don't know. It just feels like a colossal waste of like resources just to use this character that you recently just recast, just kill it off.

SPEAKER_04 24:28

Oh my goodness. And and again, she goes into Asgard and she's confronted by an army of Asgardians, whatever their army is called, whatever, and they're led by Hogun, and she kills all of them. Like all of now, I really dig Hella's like fighting style where she could just like s conjure these daggers from nothing. I think her like antler helmet thing is really cool.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

All all in all, the design, awesome, awesome, kills everybody and kills another member of the warrior three. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

It was mad annoying. She killed Hogan, guys, like in the span of like five minutes. So yeah, after she ends up killing everybody, again, killing the warrior three, three of them, of the four. The warrior three plus Lady Sith, whatever. Lady Sith isn't even in this movie, so you know, but it doesn't matter. Thank goodness she has saved one of them. Yeah. Whatever. I did nothing.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

I believe originally she I believe she was doing that. Wasn't she in like the like the Asian at Shield show? I think that's what it was.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

I'm gonna Google it right now. But as soon as um she kills them all, and she's like, okay, guys, oi, am back, and she's gonna reclaim her throw. We hop back to where Thor and Loki are, and again, we're back to traveling through space, and we get Thor. I kind of just like end up on this like junk of a planet or whatever. They end up on a planet called um Sakar. Sakar, the trash planet. Um, okay, so real quick, Lady Sif was absent from Thor Ragnarok, primarily due to scheduling conflict. As she was starring in an NBC series Blind Spot when filming for Ragnarok occurred, a short notice prevented her from appearing in the 2017 film despite having interest in returning. She was busy. That's unfortunate. But you know what? She survived.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Yeah. She's I mean, I think I think that's why they added her to like Agents of Shield, just to give her an explanation of why she wasn't there.

SPEAKER_04 26:51

And she was also ended up being in the Loki show, so that was nice. Um, but yeah, Thor um ends up on a planet called Sakar, um, where we're introduced to one um character named Valkyrie, played by Tessa Thompson. Love Tessa Thompson. Um but yeah, we're introduced to her, and we're also introduced to the Grandmaster, played by Who Adam? Jeff Goldblum! Woo! Oh, dude, he is Love me some Goldblum. There's some comedy in this movie that's kind of like sometimes like it's hit and miss. Everything out of Jeff Goldblum's mouth is just gold unintended. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

God, I love Jeff Goldblum. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

He almost he almost makes you want to watch Wicked. You haven't seen Wicked?

SPEAKER_01 27:53

No.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

Oh, I tried Wicked is so good. I couldn't do it. I couldn't get into it. I couldn't. That's it. You guys heard it here first. Next, there's gonna be a future episode, future episode where we talk about the Wicked movies. Just because Adam can't get into it. He will now have to watch them for the for the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Maybe I'll force myself to do it. Maybe I'm like, I really kind of I think I just gotta like get through it. Cause like I don't know. Like I when I watched, I watched it once, I tried to watch it once and then I passed out. And then I just like so maybe I just didn't give it a shot. We'll see. You did not.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

You did not. Um, yeah. Thor is on Sakar, we're introduced to Valkyrie, we're introduced to Jeff Golbum. Also, while all this is going down, we're like, hmm, I wonder what Hella's doing on Asgard now with all those people that she didn't kill that she let survive, right? Well, they're all trying to escape with the help of Heimdall!

SPEAKER_05 28:55

Heimdall's finally doing something. Thank God.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Not for much longer.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

But he's doing something.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

The most underrated character in the entire sh series.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

I I I've always I I love interesting. And yes, the fact that he does essentially nothing in the first Thor movie is a sin. In the second movie, he gets to take down a ship. That's awesome. Yeah. And then in the third movie, he he's he's helping, you know, as guards. Yes, and I love it, I love it. I love it. And he's not even in his armor anymore, which kind of sucks because I like him in his armor, but he looks badass. A lot more wild. I know. Absolutely love it. Absolutely love it. Um, like I said, Jeff Goldbroom is a whole lot of fun. We're also introduced to Korg, voiced by Taiko YTT. Korg is probably the second funniest, maybe the most, maybe the funniest um character introduced in this movie. I'd probably still have to give that title to Jeff Goldboom. We're also introduced to Korg.

SPEAKER_05 30:09

Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

He's good. Yeah, he he's a solid comic relief character, man. Like right?

SPEAKER_04 30:19

He's more he's funnier than the side characters in the first two. What was the girl's name? The scientist girl, the scientist girl, um, not the love interest. Darcy.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Darcy. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

The assistant. Yes. Um the channel manager.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Jane Foster.

SPEAKER_04 30:38

Yeah. Uh like they're they're good. I love me Jane Foster and all that. But like uh meedic wise, Org is there.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Hey, hey man. Yeah. I love it when he fucking Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

I love it when he kicked he's like kicks like he kicks like the after image of fucking Loki.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yeah, you get out of here, Shadow!

SPEAKER_03 31:05

I love that. That's funny.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Oh my gosh. And we find out that they're here. Oh, we didn't even mention Hulk gets a hair Hulk. Thor gets a haircut. Ooh. By Stan Lee.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

And a good cameo. I love this cameo.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

R.I.P. Stan Lee. R.I.P. the goat. But he gets a haircut. Really funny. Um it's kind of here where I'm not crazy about the comedy. I'm not talking about jokes. I'm talking like about some physical comedy where like with Thor yelling, um, him begging not to get his hair cut. Um the sparkle fingers thing. I'm not totally into that right there. Whatever. Um we cut back to sediments for me. Yeah. We cut back to uh Asgard where we find out that Thor's hammer used to belong to Hella. It's right here where they start kind of like retconning some like stuff to make Hella fit into this whole story, even though she's never been mentioned. Like this is like luckily I think they do a good enough job at retconning, but there's still some questions. Like, you're telling me Thor had a child, Hella, okay, firstborn, ruled, ruled the s the what is it, the set not the the seven kingdoms or something like that? Yeah and and then realized she was evil, banished her, some time went on, and then had two more kids, or one kid, but ended up having two more kids and raised them with never mentioning them once.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Yeah, and it's I don't know kind of wonder what happened what their mom thought of all this.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

I wish she was here, like Yeah, like I don't again I think they do a good enough job at ret cutting it all by kind of being like, oh you guys look at all the gold that the city's made of. Where do you think that came from? This came from me and Odin, Hella and Odin conquering and taking it all, basically. But I think they do a good enough job at that. But they're like, again, there's that question, just like you're telling me this dude, how long how like how old do you think Hella was by the time Odin banished her?

SPEAKER_03 33:57

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

She she's like now granted, I know they're like a thousand years old, but like so we're we're saying like Thor, by the I think by the time Thor is in Infinity War, by the time we're in Infinity War, Thor's like 1500 years old. So you're telling me, and Hella, hey bunch, that looks great, is older than Thor. So what? Like two to three thousand? So you're telling me Odin, now okay, Odin's really old, he lives forever, whatever. Obviously doesn't, whatever. Was with Hella for let's just say, let's honestly, let's just say two thousand years. Two thousand years Adam and banishes her. And in in between banishing her and raising his two new kids, puts up like walls above the old walls where they had like the the murals and the paintings of them conquering the seven the seven realms. Yep. And like the people there at Asgard, you're telling me that you're telling me that Odin outlived them all, so no one mentions any of it?

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of like plot holes to that.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

Mm-hmm. But we find all that out. Again, we find out that the Thor's hammer used to be uh Odin's. Oh, it used to be Thor's Hammer used to be Hella's. Okay. Um they get into we get into Odin's treasure room, where in uh I believe it's the first Thor movie as an Easter egg, we saw the Infinity Gauntlet in there. And it had the five infinity stones. So again, first time watching Thor, I didn't really think much of it because it's just in the background. And then after like getting on that MCU craze, and like I I I went through a phase in like 2015, dude. Like when uh Age of Ultron came out, I went through a phase where I was obsessing over this infinity stone stuff. That's why I like I then like obsessed over Guardians because Thanos was in there, and then like I'm learning more of this what I again by the time I got into the MCU, like I wasn't like ever I knew of these characters, but I didn't know you know like the comic book stuff. So I then dive deep into the history, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, he has an infinity gauntlet, except this one's a right-handed one, and as you can see on all the lights that are there, um well that look like lights, but the stones, they're all there. So you're telling me there's like two sets of it? What? Hella immediately goes, fake. That was funny.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

Oh, the years of me obsessing and being like, oh my gosh, this is the right-handed one.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

That's Danos brother. No, it did it fake.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

Uh they just quickly shut that down. Although she just pushes it off, too. She's just like, that's fake, just knocks it down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:09

So funny. Um, back on Sakar, they're using Thor as like uh as a warrior. He's gonna battle the Jeff Goldblum, the Grandmaster. His uh champion. He's a champion who fights all uh newcomers and any challengers, and the winner gets to basically leave Sakar. And well, no one's ever beaten the Grandmaster's champion. Um, and that's when we find out that the last person to face him was Doug, and Doug is dead. Um, and then Korg schemes or names Thor New Doug. New Doug, and that's when we find out as Thor gets his haircut, he then finally gets his helmet again.

unknown 37:59

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

It was so nice to see him in it while it lasted, I guess, whatever, that the Grandmaster's champion is Hulk. Hulk is here. Now, granted, we knew that because of the trailer, but Hulk is here, and everybody's like, yeah, and then Thor just oh, this was funny. Thor goes, Yes!

SPEAKER_05 38:19

Because it's somebody he knows.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

He's like, but yeah, because like we find out he says yes because he's like this is like, oh wait, Hulk might have a way out for me off this planet.

SPEAKER_04 38:32

Yeah, and he turns to Jeff Goldblum or the Grandmaster, who's up in the stands watching his champion, and he goes, We know each other, he's a friend from work.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

So that was funny. That was funny. That was hilarious. He's a friend from work, oh, and the bird is like Loki, because like Loki's there kissing ass to the grandmaster, and then he sees fucking Hulk, and he's like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that was hilarious, too. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Because the last time he saw him, you see the fear in his eyes because the last time he saw him, he was getting slammed and thrown around. I am a god. You need god, you pathetic creature, and then he just goes, duh duh. Oh, so funny. Really good, really good stuff. This this is when the comedy was really hitting. Really funny stuff. So now it's uh Thor versus Hulk, really good fight. Um Thor is getting the better of him until the Grandmaster cheats. And now Hulk has the upper hand, and he's pounding him, and as he's pounding him, um Oh my god, I forgot about it. I forgot about it. He's beating up, he's beating up Hulk, he's beating up Hulk, and he just slowly walks over to Hulk, reaches out in his hand, and he goes, Sounds getting real low, fella.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

I know, he's trying to do the Black Widow thing. Oh, and then my favorite thing is when Hulk starts slamming him into the floor, you're like how Loki's like, that's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Yeah, oh my gosh. Again, it goes back like the jokes are just killer. Like the feel it's so funny because it goes, um, we're a friend from work, and then you see the fear in Loki's face, and then you get sun's getting real low. Awesome com uh callback to like something we weren't crazy about in Age of Ultron, okay, whatever. But it was funny, and then immediately gets uh slammed around, like how Loki did, which is funny, and then Loki being like, Yeah, that's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

Oh really, really good. They really deal some comedy moments with Loki, man. Like, oh yeah. But he doesn't get many comedy moments, but when he does when he does, they hit.

SPEAKER_04 41:01

Yeah. Um which I think is great. Again, Thor, uh Hulk is uh really, really putting it to Thor, getting his ass beat, and then he has this like whatever, and he eventually just like throws a punch, but with like lightning powers now, like he's conjuring the lightning straight from his hand, and it's not coming from a hammer anymore, because you know, he doesn't have a hammer anymore.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

And we're just like okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:37

And again, he's about to it seems like he's about to beat Hulk until the Grandmaster pretty much steps in and Hulk knocks him the fuck out.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Like real like Friday type shit, man. You got knocked the hell out, man. Jeez.

SPEAKER_04 41:58

And after some talk, we find out that Hulk, oh, actually, you know, we get Hulk talking. Oh yeah. Like it's not like like fluent, it's kind of like like imagine you have like a I'm gonna say he's saying like full sentences, and you can get what he's saying. Um like he's talking like a like a three to four year old or something. Like, like the speech is there, but like it's not like fluent, you know, it's not grammatically correct. He's uh but he's speaking full sentences, he's the champion here. Um again, he's still this. He hates the mention of banner, puny banner, whatever. Um, and as they like try to escape or whatever, um Hulk sees uh like a recording of the the last recording he saw, which was of Natasha, Black Widow, from Age of Ultron in the Quinjet, which is a weird how that like the Quinjet is what Thor was in, got sucked in by a portal and then ended up here in Sakar, and he's been there ever since. And so he gets turned into Banner, he goes back into Banner, and we find out that Hulk has been Hulk for two straight years. Not like a let me turn into him real quick because I gotta survive. He's been Hulk for two years, and Banner doesn't know any of it. When he turns back into Banner, Banner's like, what's going on? Like, hey, you cut your hair, like dang, it looks good, but like, like what's going on? And he's like, What's the what happened with Ultron all that stuff? Like, oh, that was like two years ago. What are you talking about? And then Banner's now having like a panic attack because he's been Hulk for two years and he didn't even know.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

He sure didn't. Uh yeah, that yeah, they do some like crazy stuff with Hulk. Uh okay, so here's the thing I was okay with Hulk like talking, right? Of like, I'll be like, okay. That makes sense, you know, like yeah, and that makes sense, you know. Like uh, he's uh you know, he's been a Hulk for a while, so he probably like you know learned to talk while he was bid Hulk on his car, right? I can make that, but then like so and then this is but then they do this in the thing in Infinity War or not Infinity War, uh Endgame where we see him talk like he's talking again. I'm like, but like it's from the past, you know. Like we see him like it was him talking in the past. I'm like, we what they're really say they're they really don't know what to do to withhold sometimes, man. I swear to god.

SPEAKER_04 44:35

Because you know from what I hear, it's he's an expensive, very expensive to do. I know. Um but yeah, and I think it uh them I guess like choosing to just have Hulk be Hulk for two years can put it into perspective, like it can pose the question like what if he like it okay, so we know Hulk from uh Ultron and in and the first Avengers movie, where the only thing he can really say was puny god.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

And even then him saying that, it really felt like he had to like muster like the the ability to do it. Like it didn't come out one, it didn't come out fluent, and two, it didn't come out like how he's talking in this movie. So in those two years, he clearly learned how to talk. Obviously, you mentioned it, but like, are we we can imply that like let's say he stayed Hulk for many more years, the speech would get better. Yep. I guess so. And he wouldn't really have known anything from the banner side of it all. Like he doesn't have that, like, oh boy, let me check this other part of the mind that I have. He doesn't know that. Um, but I thought that was I thought that was interesting. Um, we're back with uh Hella and Oh actually, no, we get like this backstory between we find out that Valkyrie was, you know, a Valkyrie. And they're like this group of women warriors that Thor actually like respects. Thor actually like admires of them, like he thinks they're they're legendary to him. Yeah, and here's okay, so we find that out, and then he they get into a little like fight, Valkyrie and Thor, and this fight causes Valkyrie to have a flashback to the day, the night she fought her and her Valkyries fought Hella. Now, for starters. What the fuck, dude?

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Because it looked awesome. Oh, yeah, that scene that like just like the like just the imagery alone was like at real epic. It kind of reminded me of 300.

SPEAKER_04 47:01

Yeah, because it was like the slow-mo part of it all, huh? Yeah, it was really cool, dude. Like visually, it was awesome, and it was so different from like any fight or anything in this movie. And this movie's already like a lot more like visually out there, like aesthetically, compared to the previous two movies. This is like bright colors, noise, and all this stuff. And then there's this like as like literal art of the Valkyries fighting coming down from above, and Hella from the bottom. It's really, really cool. I wouldn't have minded if we had like a prequel to that, and so that's really cool. And now Valkyrie kind of like is like, okay, yeah, this is what I'm fighting for, or whatever. And we find out like all of them died except for her.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

And so, okay, now we know that Valkyrie fought Hella.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

So maybe she's not as old as Hella, but in the time between Hella being banished and her running into Thor.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:18

Like my point is like, how did like word not get around that that that Odin has another child that no one that Thor and them don't know?

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Yeah. I'm sure like Odin swore them to secrecy or some shit. I guess he could say that.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

I guess. I'm sure like Heimdall knew or something.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

He had to have known. And you were telling me that Heimdall never mentioned it? Now, okay, I'm gonna buy I'm going to accept that Heimdall respects the rules and whatever Odin says, he's gonna he's gonna abide by the rules, by the law. He's gonna follow the rules. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna respect that. But you know, as I was re-watching this, that popped into my head. Um, so yeah, we get them escaping and teaming up together, the Revengers escaping, plotting to get out of Sakar, which they do manage to do. They need to get back to to Asgard to take on Hella. And as they're going to there, you know, um what's her name? Hella actually raised. Not raised, re- I don't even know what to call it. She like brought back to life who was it, Fenrir? Fenrir, yeah, the dog, the wolf. Yes. Awesome. I just wanted to, you know, scratch his head as evil as he looked. I just wanted to scratch his head because he looks like a good boy.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Sorry about that, folks. That was my Fenrir right here. He got he got spooked by a bug. Bugs do be spooky.

SPEAKER_04 49:57

Yeah, he got it's like the dog sensed that we were about to talk about Fenrir. Yeah, he's like, I'll show you a Fenrir. Um, so yeah, it's Hella and her army with Fenrir, and we got the revengers of Thor, Loki, Valkyrie, and Bruce Banner. Oh, um, before we get into like the final like fight and whatever, all that stuff, um, I want to get into the like the conversation that Thor and Loki had as they're heading up to like find a ship for them to take. And Loki's bringing up that like, hey, I just thought after we like, you know, we get you off the saccar, I feel like Saqqar is like the perfect place for me. Um, I just think that from here on out, after this, after I get you on the ship, we should like go our separate ways. I just think it's best. And Thor's saying that, like, not Thor. Uh Loki's saying that, like, like, you know, I just think we should go our separate ways. Trying to be chipper or better or whatever. And Thor's like, yeah, I agree. And Loki's kind of like surprised by the reaction that he got from Thor. He kind of expected him to like, I don't know, maybe fight for him or something. Like, want him to come with him, want him to still be brothers. And Thor, again, this this part right here, this conversation that they have, for me, it is my most favorite thing in the entire movie. Because as much as I enjoy the this, you know, refreshed take on Thor. The fact that we're getting not a Thor that's just brooding all the time. I there's it's like that's all this movie is, and there's rarely a like, here's the heart, you know? And this is where the it is, and it's just in like a not even like two-minute conversation that they have. Thor lets him know, he's like, I've thought the world of you, Loki. I've always thought that you and I would fight side by side. Um, and I've trusted you time and time again, and every time you've proven to me that I can't trust you. So if you're gonna tell me that we should go our separate ways because this is the better place for you, then I agree because I'm that his he's telling him, I'm done. I've been wronged too many times by you. And again, Thor Loki's just like he's like hurt by it.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

He did not expect that to come from Thor. And I absolutely dug it.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

Absolutely, and then they immediately just are like, hey, let's just go back to the jokes. Uh let's do get help. Get help. And I'm like, okay, that was funny, I guess. But like I that moment in an elevator, it was done in an elevator right up. A little annoying. Um Yeah. It was it genuinely. Like it was, I don't want to say it was a nice scene because the context of it is like I thought so highly of you, Loki, and you've done nothing but betray me. And even though you've done it, and even though you've done these like crazy pranks on me or whatever in the past, I like you you've stabbed me before many times. This is before the first Avengers movie. Um, I've still thought super highly of you, and I thought we'd like take on the world together, like you know, rule together as brothers. And he's just like, But I'm done now.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

I don't trust you. Absolutely love it. Absolutely love it. Yeah. Fast forward.

SPEAKER_04 53:44

Really great moment. What'd you think of it?

SPEAKER_03 53:46

I loved it. I I think it's just more development of like because I really feel we've been lacking to see like it's just like it's these rare moments where we see Loki and like that we're reminded that yeah, Loki and Loki and Thor are still brothers. That hasn't changed despite everything that's happened. They're still brothers. You know, they argue, they bicker, they fight. But honestly, you know, it's could be worse. I I really like that scene, man. I just really it was a great character bonding moment. I wish we had more bonding, considering their dad died.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Like Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 54:34

I don't like is it like she didn't want to push them together because we need to give them a reason? And what could be a good reason? One, your dad died, and two, your sister's evil. I just wish we got more of it throughout the movie.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Yeah. I understand that makes sense. That's a fair statement.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

But um, fast forwarding back to where I was getting at, uh like I said, we're they're the the Revengers are about to take on Hella and her army and and Thor's gonna do his thing, Valkyrie's gonna do her thing. And there's kind of this like little flirtatious thing between Banner and Valkyrie. I would not have minded that, by the way. Um, but obviously it wouldn't happen because we know how Valkyrie swings in the future movies. Yeah. Um, not judging, I'm just saying. But I I feel like there was like maybe less flirtatious and more so like I kind of know you, like we get along, type of stuff. Yeah, and we get oh my gosh, another hilarious thing where Banner's like, just watch. I got this, and he dives out of the ship, and we're like, okay, this dude's about to turn into the and you just hear a splat on the ground in front of Fenrir, who's about to attack the As Guardians.

SPEAKER_05 56:00

It's so it's so funny.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Because my it's a funny splat sound that they used it genuinely funny, and as Fenrir's like, oh, what the um okay, I'm gonna go for the As Guardians, because as I was told, then he turned into Hulk, and now we get Fenrir versus Hulk, awesome. I miss this Hulk so much, dude. Yeah, me too. It's gonna be nice to see something like this in Spider-Man brand new day. Oh, they cannot wait for that. Cannot wait for that. But we get a really cool fight between everybody and everything. Scourge is like, you know what? I'm a good guy now. Uh I got my two guns with me, Jess and Troy, because when you put them together, it's Troy. Yeah, okay, my dude.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

Yeah, he he was kind of funny out, funny throughout the show. What was that? Uh well, I forgot it's Scourge, right? Yeah, yes. So throughout the movie, I mean, uh yeah, he's been funny out throughout the movie. Um I mean, you could tell I don't we kind of knew he was gonna kind of turn good in the end because like yeah, the movie constantly shows that he's like very like he doesn't he clearly doesn't want to do this shit, but he's just doing it because you know he knows he'll die if he doesn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:28

Which I'm uh but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:29

Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, uh I'm just saying that he he really just needed he really I wish he gave him just a little bit more time to develop because and make his sacrifice a little bit more worth it. But you know, honestly, I still like this character a lot.

SPEAKER_04 57:46

I couldn't do it to any of the warrior three.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 57:52

We get Scourge. Yep. Hey, but you know what? Yeah, we got it. We don't get the Warrior Three because they just murdered, but we do get Carl Urban.

SPEAKER_03 58:01

You know, Carl Urban. It's gonna be Johnny Cage soon.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

Yeah. Oh, I can't wait for that. Can't wait for that.

SPEAKER_03 58:10

I don't know, man. I still don't like because I didn't I really don't know.

SPEAKER_04 58:13

I didn't like the first one. I just like Carl Urban. So, you know, if it's more centered around him and less centered around freaking plot armor over here, that's what your power is.

SPEAKER_03 58:25

Oh, yeah, Cole the O the like the movie only character. Oh, we'll talk about that movie some other time, but damn, that pissed me off.

SPEAKER_04 58:34

Um, yeah, we get Thor versus Hella, really nice um action. Thor gets his eye sliced pretty early on, so his right eye is gone. Um again, he's getting his ass beat, and Hella poses the question to him What were you the god of again? Like, I'm what was Hella the god of death. Yes, what were you the god of again? And he has a vision, and he's talking to his dad in this vision, and he's like, I can't do it, he's too powerful, I don't have my hammer, and um Odin lets him know that that the hammer was never the source of of his power, it just helped guide it. You're not the god of hammers, and we're like, okay thunder, yes, god of thunder, um, which is poking fun like thunder, but he conjures lightning, okay. Um but yeah, uh we get Thor powering up, and he summons back his lightning powers. Awesome, dude. Super awesome. Him watching him kick ass with all this lightning, zapping people, punching people, just really, really good. And then that cutting back to Valkyrie doing her thing, slicing people in half, scourge, lighting people up, finally getting some like really cool low-key fighting scenes and seeing how his style is, and then also getting Hulk and Fanny re fighting. It's a really, really cool um like ending fight scene between both you know parties of people. Um but still comes to the conclusion that like, hey, we gotta get everybody from Asgard off this um off of Asgard, really, because I have a plan. Because Asgard isn't a place, it's a people. Um wherever Asgard is, that's wherever the Asgard people are, that's where Asgard is. So he's like, we're not gonna be able to defeat Hella, but I know someone or something that can. So his plan is to send Loki to go summon Surter, basically. Get the crown, light it on fire, and then Surter is summoned. And they kind of tease at this in the beginning, like the very, very beginning of the movie that like Surger's telling him this is what I want to do. And I want to destroy Asgard. And Thor is telling him, like, as much fun as it'd be to see you very, very tall, destroying a city, ain't gonna happen. Turns out, and again, Ragnarok is like the destruction of what, like Asgard or whatever. Yeah. And so it's not about Thor realizes it's not about them preventing it, like that's not what they're supposed to do, that they're supposed to cause Ragnarok and the destruction of Asgard, because that will one save his people, and two, destroy uh Hella. And you know, as Loki is going over there to do it, he comes across the what was it called? The Tesseract. And he just like glances at it and then they cut away from it. And that's for us to know. He definitely took it because Loki's always gonna Loki. Some insert her Loki. Awesome, just stabs Hella crazy. So, you know, Hella's gone. What's one way to get rid of her? I guess.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:06

And yeah, although they said like she draws her power from Asgard. So if Asgard's destroyed, she has no power. I think that was their like their logic behind it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:17

Well then there you go. That's uh which you know I can respect Thor's plan now.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:26

But like I said, he has to make that king's decision of like having to abandon not just his home, but having to take everyone, yeah. So uh uh really big sacrifice from Thor having to destroy his home. And yeah, Asgard is absolutely uh destroyed, and Korg is like, you know, it's okay. Foundation's there, as long as the foundation's good, Asgard can be rebuilt, and then as soon as they say that, they cut back to Asgard, Surge are stabbing the very center of it, and all of Asgard explodes. Funny stuff. And we get basically uh we get Thor with an eyepatch too, so they're kind of hinting at that like version of Thor from the comics, really cool. Um and that's the end of the movie, really, really awesome. Wait! We're not done there. We're gonna talk about the mid-credit scene, which is Thor and Loki talking, and as they're talking about where to go, what to do, a giant ship basically stops them in their tracks, gets in their way. And this like the ship that they're on is already massive because it's holding everybody from Asgard, but this other ship is like 50 times bigger, a hundred times bigger.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

This ship is massive, and that's that. That's the end of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:02

And I don't remember exactly who I thought it was at the end of the movie. I'm pretty sure I I'm pretty sure like a couple days after I saw on Twitter that there's like, oh, this is Thanos' ship or something something like that. Um but yeah, now you know, because you know this movie came out in 2017, the following year was Infinity War, and it is now 2026. We now know that that ship that confronted them was in fact Thanos. And Thanos, yeah. We'll we'll get into how that interaction went down when we eventually get to Infinity War. Um, but yeah, that's that, and this is like because um 'cause Black Panther, which is um a movie we'll talk about in the future, doesn't really like uh lead into Infinity War. So this was like this is the movie that uh gets you hyped for the for Infinity War.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

And it wasn't just like the movie that was hyping you up, it was that mid-credit scene. That like, okay, just let you know, even though this was like Thor's movie to like kind of like give him like boost him up, really. Um here's the real teaser. Um, all in all, I'd say a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:31

Yeah. Um it's a le it's a lot better than what we've gotten before from Thor.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:38

It's you see, there's aspects to the previous two Thor movies that I really, really like. I love the the like Shakespearean aspect to Thor, the Asgard of it all. And it and for me, it kind of sucks that we're at this point, we're three movies deep into Asgard. And we spend way more time somewhere else.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:07

Again, maybe there's just not many stories to tell within Asgard, you know? You know, there's that. Um, again, like I said, there's aspects to the other two Thor movies, especially the character of Thor. Because I don't think there's anything wrong with the character of Thor in the previous two movies. I just think it's been like what you what you've done with the character. Like you in the first movie, I totally get you send him away from from home. Okay, you want to play that whole fish out of water type of story. Cool. The second movie, I don't you don't even know what you were doing. Yeah. So there's that. So I but like this is like even though this might be weird to say, even though this is one of the MCU movies that I don't re-watch often, like I'm not like, oh, let me put on Thor Ragnarok. There's I'll be completely honest, I think I'd rather rewatch the other two movies, but I know this one is way better than those two. Like leaps and leaps and bounds better than the previous two movies. Yeah, I get that.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

Like if you're just not vibing with the comedy, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:14

Yeah, I think that's it. And and we kind of talked about it before we started recording where I again I you know what, Adam, before we let's rate the movie before we get into some like post-thoughts about it, um, what would you give this movie on scope from one to ten?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

I give it a solid uh I give it a solid eight out of ten.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

Like a really good movie. I would also give it an eight out of ten. I I it's insane. I I'm tempted to give this a nine out of ten. I'm gonna be completely honest with you. Because besides like some comedy not hitting, I think for the most part the comedy hits. I'm not gonna fault it for some comedy not hitting. Um I don't have a as much as the Odin stuff bugs me, I can't give it a I'm giving it a a high eight out of ten. High eight out of ten. Because this movie does a lot, right? Um like I'm giving it an eight out of ten, you're giving it an eight out of ten. IMDB has it at 7.9. Letterboxed, it's sitting at a 3.7 out of 5, and Ron Tomatoes, it's sitting at a 93%. That's its tomato meter. Its popcorn meter, which is for the audience, like the audience score, is sitting at 87.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

So we're like in basically in the ballpark.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:38

Yeah, I think the critics just praise this movie because it's vastly different from the previous two movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:47

Yeah. So again, I don't know. Um but yeah, there's like this is an extremely solid movie. Like really, really great.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:04

It's good, it's solid, it's better than what we got before.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:09

Yeah, 100%. But again, it's just like it's one of those it's just one of the mc movies I just don't bother to re-watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:20

But I can rewatch the other ones. It's so weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:31

It's funny on IMDb, Paul Urban is credited as Scourge, but on if you were just to Google the cast, he would be credited as executioner.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Oh yeah. Isn't that what she called him? Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:58

Um, any overall other overall thoughts you had on Ragnarok?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:04

So this was kind of well, this is more on the just like the planning on like the MC uh like you know the Marvel producers part. This this was because like what was this? This was like the start, like this was sort of like like we said, this was the movie lead up, one of the or at least one of them to Infinity War, you know, to hype up Infinity War.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:23

And they did a great job there because like they came in, they realized, okay, this is the lead up to Infinity War, we gotta punch up Thor, we have to make this exciting. Because like, because just like since it like like we said, this is a lot better move. This is a way better movie than we got in before from Thor. And now with everyone already singing Marvel's phrases, and now like basically just saying the one thing they did right, the one thing that Marvel seems to do wrong, they got right this time, even just threw up the hype even more. Like, Marvel just can't like really going on with like what we were saying before is that Marvel just can't miss, and now we're just excited, like everyone's even more like if Thor's this good, how good is Avengers gonna be? You know? Yeah. And I think that I thought that was brilliant marketing on their part with Thor, how well they handled this movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:12

And the following movie that like that, the movie that precedes this, uh, which is uh Black Panther, is another one of those like it just continues the the Marvel doesn't miss thing because I I well I mean we'll get into it in the future when we talk about Black Panther, but like I like it goes from this to then Black Panther, and it's just like uh it's on a it's not as it like stay the same in terms of like it's like on an upward trend, like we're slowly building up in terms of like quality of movies because the previous movie before this was um Spider-Man Homecoming. Yeah, and I think we had already like established that Spider-Man is gonna be an Infinity War. So we're like we're just getting we we just got introduced to a new character, which kind of new into this universe, which was Spider-Man. Not only was his movie great, but like his movie was insanely good. I think a lot better than people thought it was going to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

And then you get okay, okay, here's Thor. And it's not just like our Thor that we've known. Here's uh like a reinvigorated Thor, not just the character, but like his franchise is reinvigorated. Some of these characters, Thor, not Thor, a Hulk is reinvigorated now. Like we got a Hulk who's been Hulk for more like for more than just like a battle, right? And then we get Black Panther, yeah, which is arguably one of the best MC movies they've ever made. Top ten for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

Which is crazy to say top ten because there's like so many movies now. Um and then it's Infinity War.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:53

So it it's it's it's genuinely crazy how well it's it's been, and it's crazy to see where it ends up going. We'll eventually get into it. But um it's absolutely crazy. Absolutely crazy. Um but I believe that's all we've got for this movie. You gave it an 8 out of 10, I gave it an 8 out of 10. Um, a really, really good, like I said, um, a really good like ref r uh a freshness that there that this movie gave not just the character, but like the MCU. Um especially thanks to Taika White Titty. Um whatever he did for this movie, he did it right. He absolutely nailed I think what the character needed at the time. Um but I think he knocked it out of the park. Um yeah. I this was a solid movie. Um, that's pretty much all the words we have about Thor Ragnarok. Um but let's talk about what next week's episode is going to be. Next week, we're diving back into the X-Men universe with X-Men the Last Stand.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:24

Oh, that's one of my favorites. I'm excited for that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:29

Yes, we're talking about X-Men the Last Stand. We've talked about the previous two movies. Honestly, I remember bits and pieces of X-Men the Last Stand. We won't get too into it, but I remember bits and pieces of it. Not a whole lot, I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I don't remember. So it's gonna be nice to go back and rewatch uh X-Men the Last Stand. And yeah, because I think as of right now, again, I I genuinely don't remember X-Men the Last And. I think it's gonna be nice to see or interesting to see how they go from the second movie to this movie because didn't listen to our X2, X-Men United movie review. I believe you should go listen to that because that movie is amazing. That's a good movie. It's so and it's so much better than the first movie, too. It's crazy. And the second movie, oh second movie's really good. Go check that out. So it's gonna be interesting to see how they go with X-Men the Last and obviously Adam knows. I genuinely don't remember. I just have like one scene in my head, which we won't talk about.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:32

Um I'm ex I'm excited to see your reaction to it because this movie is very divisive. That's interesting, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:41

So you think like I might hate it or love it? Like it's one of those. What the heck knows?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:57

That is going to be it from us. So again, make sure to tune in next week for X-Men the Last Stand. Um, if I'm not mistaken, that might be the last movie before they do um first class. I'm just gonna uh double check right now before before I can like wholeheartedly confirm that. Oh, I lied. I absolutely lied. Um, there's another movie before they do first class. Movie bird, oh that's gonna be crazy. Um, but yeah, check out our X-Men The Last Anne review next week. Um hope you guys enjoyed. Make sure to go, make sure you follow us over on Instagram under at Revanagopod for a bunch of fun posts, especially my Adam's uh quick movie reviews, little one-paragraph reviews about movies every other day. Um go check out Adam's most recent reviews of Head Season 2, which he said was a delight, and The Housemaid with Sydney Sweeney and somebody else who I don't know off the top of my head. Um make sure you go check those out. And that's gonna be it from all of us here. Hope you guys enjoyed.